AHH: In the past week, all Hell has broken loose
in the media and the Internet, just tell me what your reaction is to the way
everyone responded to you specifically?
Royce: It was bound to happen. Those brothers
obviously doing what they gotta do to get they attention. Its just a situation
where Im defending myself. What the people expect? From the way people
responded, from what I hear, the overall opinion is just…I smashed them. It
dont surprise me.
AHH: Malcolm X is getting crazy airplay
in the streets. Its kind of a shame that youre record gets overlooked
the hype of a diss track.
Royce: Know what? The diss is fresh and new.
My album, what people dont understand is that my album is years
old. It got pushed back so much and it was already old material. The diss is
like catch up to everybody. Its like
something I just did. If you hear the new stuff Im doing, youll
be like, oh its crazy. I came along so far. I been
developing. Let me clarify, Malcolm X is a response. Its not
just a record thrown at them, its a response to a
record that they did. It just so happens that the record they did, nobody cares
about. I didnt start this sh*t.
AHH: When I spoke with Proof, he acted like it
was all you who initiated it.
Royce: He gonna make it look like that. The reality
of it was, I look up and I was getting phone calls on this record about me.
I heard it, and actually they made a whole CD about me, Ja Rule and Benzino.
So it was a whole CD that they was passing out a 50s release party. I
didnt even know where it was from. I just responded. This is whatever.
All kinds of death threats and all kinds of stupid sh*t.
AHH: From your letter, I gathered that this was
from a journalist, the comment of D-12 is the worst Rap group
out there or whatever, and that got out. That probably didnt need
to get out there.
Royce: Exactly. Well, Im a man, Im
human. Even I get emotional and say sh*t that I dont necessarily mean
that I shouldnt say. Im a man. I can admit when I say something.
But its a two way street. I said things, D-12
said things, when it boils down to it, if I got personal relationships with
certain people in that camp, and its just
like mixed signals when Im saying sh*t and theyre saying sh*t. It
aint nothing we cant get on the phone and talk
about or meet up and talk about, squash. I didnt know I was being recorded.
It just came off as some sh*t as when Bizzarre was trying to play me. It really
boils down to me and Bizarre.
AHH: So its more-so Bizarre than Proof?
Royce: Hell nah! Cuz [Proof] the one runnin
his mouth. Proof wont shut up. If hed shut up, Id leave him
He figure he gotta be the one to say everything, and he supposed to be my man.
And it just make more angry
because I feel like nigga done turned his back on me. Its like whatever.
I feel like Im in a world of my own. Im
gonna ride for myself. Everything I do is in defense. Im not just gonna
pick on them dudes.
AHH: You mentioned in your letter that you and
Proof go back…
Royce: Proof was my man. Im loyal. Once
I decide Ill ride for you, Ill ride for you. All of this sh*t just
out of nowhere. Back in the day, when I wrote that record about Bizarre, I called
Proof at the studio like I said in
the letter. Because thats my man. I had been 2-waying him while they was
making the CD. And he didnt say
nothing. He couldve called me and been like, These n*ggas are writing
a record about you, like I did him. Send
me the same courtesy. He didnt do that. I was 2-waying him and I was getting
dry responses from him. Next thing you know, a CD is out. He [was] at every
studio session, because some of the n*ggas talking on the CD like, I send
some more gangsta sh*t but Proof sent me back in the booth to change it.
He was in the studio while they was doing it, and just aint say nothing.
I get 2-ways from him sayin, Be careful out here, its trying
times, sh*t like that. What the f*ck you thinking of nigga! Now that the
sh*t is hitting the fan, he writes records talking bout, Royce wanna ride
on me and kill me. I dont wanna kill Proof. I dont even feel
like Proof is a threat. This sh*t is stupid to me. The respect that I showed
him back in the day, Im not getting that in return.
AHH: He made several comments, and Ill
pass them on to you….comment if you like. He said the original diss
record was three years old…you talking about D-12 or whatever.
Royce: Yeah. I wrote a record about Bizarre.
I called Proof at the studio. He heard the whole record. He said,
Royce man, I love you dog. I appreciate you showing enough respect to
call me at the studio. Slim need to hear
this. He didnt sh*t about Bizarre. He was like, Slim need
to hear this. He didnt care if it came out. Slim was
like, Nah man, you cant beef with Bizarre. Thats my man. Thats
my crew. You gotta ride with him. So we
squashed it. And Im a man of my word so nobody ever heard the record for
three years to show how real I am. So when they did this record, they sayin
Im trying to gain attention or whatever. But they did a whole CD, passed
it out at the 50 release party, and the next day they world premiered it on
the biggest radio station here. So who the f*ck trying to get attention? All
this stuff came out of nowhere. So the next day I felt like I had to go to the
radio with something. And all I had was that diss record that was three years
old. So I took that up there, wrote a new record, they played that on the air.
[D-12] got all upset. Before I could even get to the club, they went to the
club and jumped on one of my mans who didnt know what was going on, didnt
even know I was at the radio station. This is why Im saying f*ck a truce.
You already done put your hands on somebody. The sober you is responsible for
the drunk you. Thats my motto. Proof runnin around saying I started
everything. Number one, I didnt put my hands on nobody. I aint did
nothing to nobody. If they just wanted to go back and forth with me on records,
we couldve did that. Proof done already took it to the streets so now
it is what it is.
AHH: Proof mentioned that he didnt need
any help getting signed. But he said you depended on Emimem for all
three of your deals.
Royce: I put it like this: Number one, Proof
cant even rhyme. I like him more as a person than I like him on the
mic. He can freestyle, but when he get on a track, he sound like garbage. Without
Eminem, hes nothing. Im
running through deals right now. I might get three more. I dont even know
what my future holds. But I keep
getting them, cuz at the end of the day, I can rhyme. Em can do anything
he can do to prevent me from going
forward and Im still gonna make it. I be around after he retire. Im
twenty five years old. Them motherf*ckas is
knocking on thirtys door. So I dont give a f*ck what Proof talking
about. Who is Proof? Soon as Em decide he
gonna retire, [Proof] gonna retire. The hype-man sh*t is up. What you gonna
make a solo record? The Dogmatik
record? Look at the sh*t he done tried to do on his own. He cant get Em
on a record. What did I tell you? Least I
got [Em] for a hook.
AHH: In our last interview we were talking about
your brother, Tre Little who appears on the Malcolm track. How
is he dealing with this. I mean to debut on a diss track.
Royce: This is not like a publicity stunt for
us. Cuz if it was, my whole crew would be making records. Records
would be flying all over the place. The only reason Tre appears on the record
is because they mention Tre on their
record. Why you putting Tre up? What the f*ck he got to do with anything? So
of course he gonna get on the track and defend himself. If they had mentioned
anybody else in my crew, they would have been on the record too. We just givin
it to them like they tryin to give it to us. We know that they gonna try
to make it look like this is Royce trying to fuel everything. But if you look
at it dog, what the f*ck do I stand to gain by that? What can I gain by going
against Shady Records? The game is Shady Records right now. Why would I go against
them? I think Em is the illest motherf*cker rhyming. Why would I go against
Em? It just dont add up.
AHH: You said earlier, f*ck a truce,
but in the letter you hinted a resolution. Is that possible?
Royce: I would like for the street sh*t to end
because I see where its going. People gonna hurt, some people might even
get killed. But as far as Im concerned, I dont want to see nothing
happen to no D-12 member. Because I dont hate none of them. I dont
hate nobody in the streets right now. Proof, I definitely dont want to
see nothing happen to because there will always be a place in my heart for DeShawn
Hope. But when this motherf*cker turn into Dirty Hary, he turns into somebody
else. After a couple drinks, he becomes somebody else. They already put their
hands on somebody. The nigga that they put they hands on, he dont rhyme.
So he cant control what he do. So as far as Royce. Im gonna continue
my music. If I see Proof and I feel like smacking him, Im might smack
him. But I dont want it to get serious like that. The cards is gonna fall
where they will. I know if they twelve deep and they see me, they gonna do something.
If I see Proof, all that tough sh*t he talkin, when I look in his face,
when we eye to eye. all that changes, trust me.
AHH: The last thing Proof told me, he wanted
me to repeat to you directly, Only a fool chooses war over peace.
Because in war, fathers bury sons. And in peace, sons bury fathers.
Royce: Well you tell Proof thats real deep
and mythological and all that, and if you talk to him again, tell him
[that] he knows me. I aint itching for war. Who the f*ck want to go war?
I aint George Bush. You tell him Ill
defend myself. He talkin peace now, but when he with his n*ggas, he talking
war too. Im built for whatever he
want to do. Aint nobody looking for Proof. If I was looking for Proof,
I would have been at his doorstep. He
over-dramatize sh*t, it aint sh*t. Lyrically, they cant f*ck with
me. And in the streets, they cant f*ck with me.
Proof will have an Electric Koolaide Acid
Test mixtape hitting the streets this week. Royces double CD mix is
out now. Also, expect a Proof LP this Summer, D-12 in Fall. Koch Records will
be releasing a Royce mix CD soon as well.