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Hip-Hop Rumors: Juvenile Says Lil’ Wayne Was “Scared” To Leave Cash Money

Ish has officially hit the fan! Rapper Juvenile has put all his cards out on the table and has decided to speak out against his former label Cash Money. In a recent interview with Complex, Juvenile reveals that he believes Lil’ Wayne was “afraid” of leaving Cash Money, and he was surprised when Wayne resigned with Cash Money and essentially “got beat” out of his own money.

Check out a few notable quotes from the interview below:

“When Wayne was trying to leave Cash Money [in the mid 2000s], same thing. He was trying to find out how did I leave, what did I do, he wanted to see my paperwork. I was like you can see it, but you’re gonna have to pay me for it now because now I know you ain’t with me. You’re own your own because I’m definitely on my own. If you want the paperwork and help from my end, I need to be compensated for it. [He never paid for it].”

“Still up to the day, Wayne really got beat out of all his money and took another contract. That’s part I never understood. I was signed to Atlantic and Jay-Z was excited about that because now we was about to get our own money. That’s what I really wanted. I wanted him to leave. All of a sudden he signed back I’m like, ‘Damn, what type of deal he got working?’

“If you notice the Young Money/Cash Money imprint, some of the stuff that need to say Young Money don’t say Young Money. I know Baby and I know Ronald [“Slim” Williams]. They ain’t giving up power of their company. They don’t care how big Wayne gets, they not giving up. If I didn’t getting it, he ain’t getting it.

Juvenile also spoke about Wayne’s producer woes, and he implied that Weezy didn’t make any money off royalties because of Cash Money’s bad business practices.

“[Tha Carter III] album did great. But I don’t think Wayne collected a dime on royalty side. I don’t think he’s gonna be able to because some of the cats he was dealing with wasn’t doing straight business on the producer side. You’re under the impression that the guy you got the beat from was the guy who made the beat. It was situations like that that Wayne got caught in..’

“Wayne is doing good right now, but if you go off of capital and off of who made the most money, he still ain’t top my numbers yet off one album. He’s still doing good, but he still never topped my numbers. If you go off of who could benefit most at the end of the day, in my book I feel like I’ve lost everything. They won. These n*ggas ate off the house I built.”

“I ain’t mad about it, I’m gonna build me another house. But don’t make it look like I was the bad guy. Don’t make it look like Juve came here and said, ‘Ah man, I’m leaving.’ The situation will always be, ‘Fuck you. Pay me.’”

Juvenile spilled quite a bit of in-house information there. Do you think Lil’ Wayne or Birdman are going to respond?

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  • therealest1

    A kiss in the mouth from his daddy Birdman probably persuaded Lil Wayne to stay.

    • LOl

    • Sydewayz Soundz

      He probably sucked his dick

      • therealest1

        Its possible for them to have butt pirate tendencies, you could be right about that one as well.

    • johnblacksad

      He prolly threatened Wayne to release a video of him getting molested… smh

      • therealest1

        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

    • therealest1

      Well I guess this 1 dislike might be from Birdman or Lil Wayne.

  • I do believe that Birdman and Slim has gotten over on Wayne. That’s not to say that Wayne is not making money, but if the paperwork was right, he should have made much more.

  • chippc

    Didnt Juvie himself come back for a second tour of duty with Cash Money when he did the Slow Motion record?

    • Chris

      I believe that was his last album under contract with Cash Money. After that, he bounced. I may be wrong, though.

      • Charles

        No your right…when juve went back in 03 it was all business. He owed Cash Money one more album so he had to go back.

    • YungKizz

      yeah then he got played again an left

      • He actually did it under the premise that if he moved a certain amount of units he would get an extra milli and moved the units… This is what he said in an interview tho, I dont believe rappers now that I have grown up

      • YungKizz

        man cash money is just play out now

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  • This is from an article so how is this a “Rumor”? Shouldn’t this be in the “News” section? SMH!

    • I’m always thinking the same thing. Most of the “rumors” belong in the news section, and the album release dates are really just rumors

  • Pierre Elliott

    WHEN DID IT BECOME ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND NOT ABOUT THE MUSIC?
    TOO MANY NO TALENT DUDES IN THE INDUSTRY. FROM ALL SIDES.

    • W.E.B. Du Bois

      maybe he showed loyalty to those who started him – this contract – if so, that’s understandable.

    • ha ha i bet thats something baby says to his artist ALL the time LOL 😉

  • AK

    hes talking about wayne aint really a ceo of anything he gets paid by whatever birdman gives him

    • jacksjus

      When Birdman gave him $1M as a gift for his album going 3X platinum was the tale tale. If the man just went triple platinum why was baby giving him a cash gift? Shouldn’t he have already made that 10 times over?

      • Chris

        Real talk. Pimpin’ that brotha’ with lavish gifts, but no dough.

      • Bumpy Johnson

        Thats wachu call pimpin’…..your hoe makes you 5,000 a week. you buy her nice clothe, good food and rent her an apt, she thinks she is getting her money back but you really just spending at most 2,000 a month on the trick.

        Get a young rapper who ain never had nothing….help him sell 2mill = 20mill+…buy him a Bentley =250,000, a house=500,000….this man ain gone ask about where the f*** does the other portion of money go. Most the time niggas dont even know how Artists(themselves) make money.

      • therealest1

        Like my close friend said years ago about the music game, its like pimps and hoes.

  • Juve was just hanging out with them weeks ago. What happened? LOL

  • Man in dis industry u dnt get wat u deserve u get wat u negotiate str8 like dat

    • Doe Boy

      real shit

  • its not birdman or diddy fault these dumb ass niggas and lawyers sign fucked up conntracts nobody put a pistol 2 their head and made em sign it look at waynes account now and look at juveniles who is more secure? O ok

    • ccwaterbound32

      B.G’s first contract with cash money was when he was 13 years old plus he was addicted to heroin… in juve’s case he just did bad business as well as turk and fresh… and wayne was always a god h@e… so that’s all..

    • johnblacksad

      sounds like lotsa shady things goin on with da empire known as YMCMB! what’s up with that?!

  • brotha_man

    juve did hold cash money down…him and BG

    • brotha_man

      ….and mannie fresh

    • Mr.

      BG was aight, but Juve and Manny Fresh laid the foundation.

  • Say what you want but 500 degrees was the biggest album of that year..the dude put up some ridiculous numbers on a global scale..

    • Mitchell Patterson

      I think you mean 400 degrees. But yeah Juvie ain’t lying about the house he built. He was the Snoop Dogg of Cash Money records.

  • jacksjus

    The Hotboys have each complained (excluding Wayne) about Cash Money’s business practice over the years. Hey it’s a shady business and always will be, because a nigga that comes from nothing isn’t thinking about the legal paperwork and setting themselves up for residuals. It’s all about right now.

    • Approach the label like a bank….& you will get the most out of them. Approach like an artist = FailBlog

      • jacksjus

        Exactly but these rappers just don’t seem to get that. There really is no excuse for getting fucked now that the cat has been out of the bag for years.

      • If you juggling shut off notices, hustling to keep your head above the water… intermittently & Jimmy Iovine offers you 300 racks to put on MC Hammer pants & do the running man…..for a fugged up deal…..which could well be your once in a lifetime opportunity, what do you say?

        No & go sell crack or flip burgers? or rap about how you a Kingpin & never answered your phone unless it was a 10 Mil sale & better & wiped your butt with baby wipes your whole life?

        They getting jerked, but still making a whole lot more than they would in the workforce…with all them tattoos on their faces, etc.

        Pee Wee Kirkland quit the Chicago Bull starting Shooting Guard position….Michael Jordan’s slot ( B4 MJ * ) to hustle….probably the only OG with $$$$. ( From that era / Generation )

      • jacksjus

        Yeah but how many times are niggas gonna keep falling into the same trap? If you really believe in your talents then you should continue to shop it. If Iovine is interested, I imagine there are a whole lot of other options, especially once the word gets out. Hood or not they need to pay these brothers their just due. #Guns and Butta

      • Indeed, but here is the catch, distribution has a high entry barrier, 5 licenses in the US…or is it 3? Sony? Universal &??? Polygram???

        Plus……the reality is, there are 50 better MC’s who will say yes & your opportunity is gone…..now smart $$$ takes that 300K & gets 6 low income rental multi units, netting $1500 a month each, residual ( $9K Month ) …..now there is some permanent breathing room & room to negotiate.

        Spend the 300racks & artist is right back to square 1.

      • jacksjus

        Common actually did that after his first album. But you can’t expect the average kid from the streets to think like that. So in part it’s there own fault. I do agree with you that something legal is definitely the better option. Moral to the story is at least get YOUR OWN lawyer to review the contract.

      • Yeah & make sure it’s an entertainment lawyer.

      • jacksjus

        Haha oh yeah and that too.

      • jacksjus

        $300k for a one album deal ok, but when you are talking multiple albums with a $300k advance for each. Nah bruh I’m good.

      • BIG got $250K for RTD & it went 4x platinum? b4 shut down by sample issues.

        “Singing in the Morning” Ohio Players ( The Early Years )

        Where BIG took the album cover, baby with the afro, etc.

        (Horns) ( Maybe 10X Plat? due to multiple sales *scratched / stolen cd )

        Got jerked? Yeah, by his “BEST FRIEND”.

  • jacksjus

    If Wayne had been a little older when it was time to re-up on his deal, he very well may have walked away. He’s too rich to be signed to another man right now. He should take the Young Money imprint and walk.

    • Jafred Boatwright

      Waynes like in a pacqiao position except hes a rapper lol

  • they gave him all the drugs to keep wayne out of it.. happens to most child stars & many get molested

    • Jafred Boatwright

      Yep lol and if he leaves they’ll kill em

  • Doe Boy

    so do wayne really own ym or is he jus the face??

    • LOL!!!! THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A RECORD LABEL CALLED YOUNG MONEY. THERE WAS ONLY CASH MONEY AND BABY AND SLIM CHANGED IT TO YOUNG MONEY CASH MONEY. I’M GUESSING TO GET AWAY FROM THE NEGATIVE SHIT CASH MONEY REPRESENTED. LOOK ON ALL THEY ALBUMS, IT SAYS CASH MONEY/UNIVERSAL. BABY NEVER LET WAYNE BRANCH OFF LOL YOUNG MONEY IS JUST THE “CREW” NOW.

      • young money is an imprint under cash money .. thus YMCMB …. aka Young MoneyCash MoneyUniversal… Young Money is imprinted on waynes cd ….

        Tha Carter IV is the ninth studio album by American rapper Lil Wayne, released on August 29,
        2011 through Young Money Entertainment, Cash Money
        Records and Universal Republic Records.

      • LOL THAT ALBUM WAS BUT CHECK ALL THE OTHERS. BUT EVEN THAT ALBUM WAS UNDER CASH MONEY/UNIVERSAL. WHAT ROLE DOES “YOUNG MONEY” PLAY IN THIS? SO I’M GUESSING WAYNE THE ONLY CAT THAT’S TRULY ON YOUNG MONEY? WAYNE IS SIGNED TO CASH MONEY/UNIVERSAL BRUH. UNIVERSAL GETS A CUT, THEN BABY AND SLIM GET A BIG CUT, THEN WAYNE GETS THE LEFT OVERS AND A GIFT(POCKET CHANGE) FROM BABY. NOW WHAT DO DRAKE, NICKI AND TYGA GET? WHAT DO THE REST OF THEM NOBODIES GET? LOL!!!

      • they named it that cuz baby got all the money and he only let wayne get a lil bit of it lol ‘young money’

  • Guest

    Either way anybody put it Wayne still won. True I bet he did get beat out of some cash. I mean Cash Money was an all star team to me when they started. I mean if Manny Fresh had to bounce because Baby didn’t want to do good business you know bruh got to be hella greedy. But Wayne had a trick up his sleeve. Wayne knew he had to completely dominate to where now Baby need Wayne and Nikki and Drake. Without them who Cash Money got? They dead. Wayne should be close to his reup on a deal situation and this time he should be able to boss up. Shout out to Juve though that 400 degrees still go hard. Shout out to Turk. “Like a nigga on the sideline nigga we ain’t playin”…

    • truuuuuuuuuuuuu def lets hope thats the move cause that def would be smart … some times you gotta take a loss to get the GAIN!! i can dig it 😉

  • $18916246

    Hey it’s just the common tradition of the music industry….Wayne is being led around by his nose, so they employ Wayne to reel in two more lost souls…i.e….Drake and Nicki. They too as I have mentioned will be done worse. It again is the game though…If Wayne had any money he would not have served time for a gun charge in NY as “real” well off entertainers beat gun possession charges all the time. Wayne is a well protected investment ..but not so well protected that Birdman is gonna put his business on the line for. See Wayne likely began to call Birdman daddy after being beaten then threaten then reminded that birdman is his daddy…solely because the label owns his ass. The ghost writing, the failed attempts to leave Cash Money all amount to Wayne learning late that he has nothing. He is a Cash Money mascot/hood ornament/cheerleader fascinated with the look that his career has been given. Yeah he plays the role of a silly, gang member wannabe..stuck in a 2nd childhood..riding skate boards and getting high to ease the pain of the harsh reality that he is mere property fronting loyalty. Baby in his late 40’s standing around bragging about jewelry and cars still and after being in the business over 20years. Taking a page from Suge Knights hands on approach speaking publicly to what he knows will be his artist future..look how depressed they all look away from the limelight. Mere cattle….and we all know what the farming of cattle leads to….slaughter. Nicki’s declining fame..the newly brokered deals for products with the Nicki Minaj name…a brand that belongs to the label…same with Drake…Hey but it’s all part of the extortion run business we know and love as the music industry.

    • and wayne def knows this he refers to himself as a machine ….

    • Wolf

      You can be the richest person in NY you will do time if you get a gun charge. A forgot the name of the football player who shot him self in the leg , but I know he was getting money even he did a year in prison for that.

      • $18916246

        You’re referring to Plaxico Burres…..Not true at all non-blacks, I’ll say get off on gun charges all the time, ask Bernhard Goetz…Google the case bruh.

  • Music industry is changing and I guess the only
    place right now where your album is not getting
    shelved is cash money.
    Real talk.
    We all don’t see any Roc Nation artists happening
    and even Bad Boy is a dead end road.

    No label right now offers great deals. But we are
    not talking about Warner, Atlantic, or Sony/BMG.
    I guess Wayne made the right choice. And even
    Juve would be happy to jump back on the ship,
    if he could.

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  • Richard Savage

    we all know baby and slim are snakes thats no secret

  • Havoc Wreaka III

    JUVE

  • lol i guess thats why wayne aint paying royalties to his producers cause shoot wayne aint even getting royalties smh …… side note wayne maybe loosing even worse then juve said .. cause if you follow wayne hes been able to collab with damn near 90% of the industry because he only ask for points NO UP FRONT PAYMENTS !! … and points = royalties !! so damn wayne may really be missing out on some $change$ ??????

  • Alf Capone

    bird man will respond with some thing like “we getting money shawty that all we know, we eating”………or some bullshit like that………..then he’ll take a flight to japan……….where he will have kinky sex with all the young japanese boys he can handle

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  • jacksjus

    I believe him. When Baby gave Wayne a million dollar check as a gift for seeking 3xplat on the Carter 3 I knew then that Wayne was getting screwed. What’s a million to a man that just sold 3 million records?