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Hip-Hop Rumors: Guess How Much Eminem Will Sell!!!!

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Eminem is expected to push crazy units his first week from the Marshall Mathers LP 2! The dude that calls himself a “rap god” will reportedly push over 700, 000 the first week. NOW, remember last week this album sprung a leak and people were going crazy with the downloads and pre-listens. WELL! I hope he pushes a lot of units so that he can comeback with a new album that replaces this one. I really didn’t care for it, but I thought Recovery was really dope. So, lets let this one be successful and then he can make an album I can fully appreciate. Saleswise though…this is going to sell oodles of albums.

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  • therealest1

    Expect to sell a shitload of units shit! Its Eminem we’re dealing with.

  • Rooch

    Eminem Show will always be my favorite Em Album. But There are some dope tracks on here tho’. Rap God, Head Lights, Monster. Just to name a few.

    • Justin

      Love Game is my favorite and the first verse on Berzerk is flawless. But yeah, Eminem Show and the first MMLP were his best.

  • Greg Baas

    This is to be his “last one” unless he’s referring to his obligation s to Aftermath and then jus Straight Shady from here….

    • Negro Peligro

      Really I mean dude 40 and he don’t rap like JAY-Z OR COMMON. @ 40 you can’t complain about stuff and act silly like that no more.

  • Romia Blue

    I give him 700K…no more than 800K

  • DJ7

    He better go diamond with all the promo you guys are giving his a$$…everyday b? Really? This dudes face has been on this and every other rap site non stop for 2 weeks…

    • NoGoBoi

      and they wonder why “people” like him sell so many records smh. Not talking race either but that plays a part

  • Negro Peligro

    The album really wasn’t that good. To me
    Its got some lyrics. But its kind of run on.

  • Mega Don

    white people support white people even when there product is shit poo finger nails and asscrack

    • Boomie Rogers

      lmao

    • IDestroyStupidPeople

      So the same can’t be said when white and black kids alike support artists like :
      Soulja Boy, Lil B, Cheif Keef, or any rapper lacking lyrical content and flow. Please, take your racism and go elsewhere.

      • Mega Don

        difference is black people didnt really buy those guys cds white people is racist and they only support there great white hope

      • Guest

        atleast we support something. and no bootleg. u act like ur dissin ppl for it.. u wonder why all ur fav rappers go mainstream bec they know none of u bums in the hood will pay out of pocket so they dont cater to you no more.

      • ZUBU

        Support??? Do the math of course Em is gonna sell more, there are far more white people in America than black, brown. So with him being in 50 Cents Voice “you know you my favorite white boy” he’s going to sell more simple math. Not saying Em can’t flow on some some songs, but he’s America’s rap Elvis!
        But all that RAP GOD shhiiiit child please! Rakim Allah, Nasir, Kool G Rap, KRS-1, GangStar, I could go on for days

      • Guest

        so with your logic that means paul wall, MGK, yelawolf, rittz, mayday, kreyshawn, that white chick with I.T iggy will all sell right? oh wait half alredy dropped albums n flopped.

        and whites arent large in number as much as black people like to think.

      • ZUBU

        Once again do the math it takes a very small percent of white America for Em to go plat, It takes a larger percent of the black population for a black artist to go plat. This is all in theory if only whites bought Em, and only blacks bought XYZ artist. Bro it’s simple math Em has an advantage. It’s not his fault, but it is the truth. Not dissing Em at all he pretty nice on some tunes, but if he was black would be good, but he would not have the great white hope status. IMJ……

      • Guest

        yeah but look at jayz, kendrick lamar, ect. real rappers going platinum bec their nice on the mic. theres got to be 10 million plus black ppl in america.. im sure im lowballing that number by millions but my point is u guys dotn pay for shit lol.. hood bumps keef, montana, flocka gucci n all them dudes got triple cobalt each time. thats what happens when ur nice ppl buy your stuff. but how come u cant explain 2 me why the other 7-8 white people i mentioned never have ems level of success. because theyre not on his level musically or lyrically.. in 03′ this statement would of been true..skills sells in 2013. not color.

      • Guest

        and again.. the number of whites compared 2 blacks isnt all that off anymore. i see just as many white ppl in the world when i go 2 the mall or stores or to eat as i do whites.

        oh yeah i had to edit this one ..mac miller is the most popular white guy since eminem and hes only selling like 150k on par with many many other rappers that are black and latino.

      • Guest

        PS all it takes is a million people to buy one album..theres millionssss of blacks in america yet half of the hood rappers the ‘streets’ accept never sell.. can you tell me why? (its a retorical question, the answer is bec they’re bums)

      • DJ7

        They do it b/c they are told to do it sport…simple as that

  • Philippe Therrien

    it is his wort album… the best songs are on the bonus CD… I miss the quality of Eminem Show

    • IDestroyStupidPeople

      This sort of happens as the top performance artist’s get older, their subject matter and life experiences aren’t as real, relatable, or as burdened with hardships so their lyrical content begins to diminish.

    • Justin

      Worst album?!? Encore and Relapse were very disappointing. They had a couple of decent tracks but that was it. This album is way better. It’s not to the level of his first 3 but Recovery and now MMLP2 are at least a return to solid music.

  • Seriouslyfolks

    “White America, I could be one of your kids, white America, little Eric looks just like this,
    White America, Erica loves my shit, I go to TRL, look how many hugs I get, white America, I Could be one of your kids, white America, little Eric looks just like this, white America, Erica Loves my shit, I go to TRL, look how many hugs I get…Look at these eyes, baby blue, baby just like yourself, if they were brown, Shady lose, Shady Sits on the shelf, but Shady’s cute, Shady knew, Shady’s dimple’s would help, make ladies swoon Baby, {ooh baby}, look at my sales! Let’s do the math, if I was black, I would’ve sold half, I ain’t have to graduate from Lincoln high school to know that!” – Eminem “White America,” 2002 – “The Eminem Show”

    • Guest

      right, that was 2002- when there was 0 white rappers outside eminem..welcome to the next decade my friend where theres many white rappers..and only 2 sell (em and Macklemore)

  • Tony G.

    Don’t mean any harm..but don’t get mad at that fact that white fans support their artists..whether it be rap, pop, rock or country…while most black “fans” go steal their so called favorite artists albums..the very streets that so many black rappers worry about being accepted by are the streets that’s been bootlegging and taking food out of ur mouths for yrs…Is what it is…

    • torrent sites weren’t created by black people…..

      • Mega Don

        bearshare kazaa limewire megauploads werent created by black people as well these white niggas stay trying to talk slick

      • Guest

        Don’t forget The original NAPSTER

    • Kevin

      Japanese and Russians are the biggest bootleg markets and eminem probably “sold “300,000 the rest of those things are bought by the record company. Bootlegging is not a black thing.

      • Negro Peligro

        Man Got a CHINESE CHICK HAD TO LEAVE HER QUICK. Cause she kept. You get the message.

    • Jayson C Williams

      That’s true.. We can say that about anything in our race. Sports, school competition period. We don’t support black clothing etc. It’s a sad fact

      • DJ7

        I support and so do others…problem is…the majority support the wrong sh*t for all the wrong reasons which leads to that defeatist mentality you’re projecting…become a part of the solution instead of the problem…do your part…be positive, spread the good word about black owned businesses and others will follow…stop falling for the okie doke ie…WILLIE LYNCHING… in due time, a change is gonna come…

      • ZUBU

        Word, they still got many brothas in the Willie!

      • Jayson C Williams

        Brother I agree and I wasn’t speaking from a defeatist selfie mentality. I support! My boys have their clothing line, I rather deal with roksmith than Gucci! Why? Because I know some proceeds go to wu tang members ie blacks. So I’m speaking from a general standpoint and wether we like it or not, I’m embarrassed to be black sometimes. If it’s not lack of support to things other than rap & sports, us killing each other, us wanting to be white (color complexes) I’m simply disappointed in my ppl and embarrassed to be black or for better words … I’m embarrassed that I’m represented by certain views, behaviors & most blacks I see on the street or in the news everyday

      • DJ7

        PEACE my brotha
        Never be ashamed nor embarrassed to be who/ what you are b…that is the fruits of the oppressors labor…don’t make it easy for him / her to destroy your being…they do it purposefully, subliminally and are relentless in their efforts…be strong…be proud and reject that niggativity….study our true history, learn from it, share what you’ve learned with others and most importantly pass it down to the next generation, otherwise the cycle continues….on that note…I applaud you for supporting our brothas / sistas businesses and I hope you’ll continue b.u.t. I challenge you to get others to do the same…It’s the only way we’re ever going to win…peace

      • LaurynHernandex

        Twerking is ignorant when blacks do it but miley cyrus is a sait when she does it. Racist double standards

    • IDestroyStupidPeople

      This is the most racist stereotyped garbage I have ever seen on this site, and that is really saying something. So Jay-Z sold 528,000 with Magna Carta Holy Grail, are u saying that number only represents the white demographic.How ignorant and small minded you are.

      • Negro Peligro

        Yeah pretty much. White people and DJ’S. LOL. JK. I had it before they could cop it in the store. BUT KEEP THAT ON THE DL.

      • thecheeseburger

        not to mention Tupac being one of the highest selling artists of all time, im sure not everyone buying his albums were white

      • LaurynHernandex

        Tupac gave a interview and said most his fans are white. The very reason tupac got signed was because a record execs 9 year old white daughter liked him out a group of rappers.

      • thecheeseburger

        Dude made an album called “Strictly for my Niggaz”, if anything white people were intimidated by his pro-black stance. The point is, while “most” of his fans may have been white, they are not the only race buying albums, that’s a generalization which perpetuates the idea that minorities are broke and dont pay for things. I’m not white but I buy albums of artists I support.

      • LaurynHernandex

        Most of Tupacs fans were white. Ja Rule,50 cent and dMX were extremelly popular because of white people. DMX is the only one out of the three that’s never changed and has the ability to come back. 50 and Ja switched their style and it became cool to hate them. White people make ppl hate wayne and drake. Whites are the worst thing to ever happen to rap

      • EvilSteveDallas

        “White people make ppl hate wayne and drake.”

        I don’t get what you mean here. Are you saying that people hate Drake and Wayne BECAUSE white people love them? Or that white people ACTIVELY campaign to make other people hate Wayne and Drake?

      • EvilSteveDallas

        “Dude made an album called “Strictly for my Niggaz”, if anything white people were intimidated by his pro-black stance.”

        Mmmmm….maybe the parents of the kids who bought the album would have been put off, but I can tell you from firsthand experience that parents disliking an album usually only makes kids want it more. Tell kids that it’s bad, or forbidden, and then slap a ‘parental advisory’ sticker on there, and kids will…eat…that…shit…up.

      • thecheeseburger

        yeah i agree, but thats besides the point. Pac had crossover appeal. He appealed to the masses. Whites make up the majority of the population, so if you appeal to them, you’re appealing to a larger audience and obviously that will reflect in your sales numbers. That still doesn’t mean that white people are the only ones who buy albums.

      • johnblacksad

        Somehow, it does… it just shows how much more white fans he has compared to your average trapstar, Lil’ this or Young something

        don’t sleep on the white demographic… you seriously think Em’s talent alone made him move all these units?

        He had the skills with him, and the combination with his color made the shit go exponential! It’s clear as HD TV.

        Look at Pac and Big’s numbers… look at who also appealed to a white crowd and look at who was just an ashy ghetto n!gga from Bed Stuy…

        don’t sleep on the white demographic…

      • LaurynHernandex

        Don’t argue with thirteen year olds they never use common sense

    • EvilSteveDallas

      “while most black “fans” go steal their so called favorite artists
      albums..the very streets that so many black rappers worry about being
      accepted by are the streets that’s been bootlegging and taking food out
      of ur mouths for yrs”

      I don’t think that’s true. Some black people illegally download albums, some white people do. Now, what I do notice (not really a racial thing), is that fans (of all colors) of other genres tend to support their artists longer. It’s not a situation where one bad album means you’re done. I mean, Darius Rucker from ‘Hootie and the Blowfish’ is STILL out there getting money. The Rolling Stones sell out damn-near every single concert they do. The girls that liked Britney Spears when they were 14 still buy her every album…they don’t care whether it’s reviewed poorly or not. I’m not saying we should reward artists for putting out garbage-ass music, just that if an artist puts out 10 albums, they may have a clunker or two (or three or four) in there….one bad album doesn’t mean a finished career.

    • dee

      music has no color

      • Tony G.

        I never said it did..i was simply making a point…theres a reason that artists like Em, Justin Timberlake…etc etc etc..still SELL records

      • dee

        ok what about maxwell i think he sold something like 500k out the gate whats his reason?

      • LaurynHernandex

        Shut up

    • R.I.P Ultimate Warrior

      True dat

    • thecheeseburger

      artists get the majority of their income from shows and touring. yeah they get royalties from album sales but that money mainly goes to the record label

      • Tony G.

        I understand that fully..thats not my point

      • EvilSteveDallas

        I agree. I think record sales matter only in that they indicate to the industry at large (and the artists’ label) that this person has some viability as an artist. Simply put: they move units, and so they’re worth devoting some time and effort into promoting because they offer a good ROI for the label.

        If you go platinum, your next album is going to probably get some push from your label because you seem like a good investment.

        Now, I’m not saying that for a fan that record sales should matter…record sales do not necessarily indicate quality…..but they don’t contraindicate it either.

        As far as touring goes….truth be told, I’d rather go to smaller shows. It’s a much better experience, in my opinion. I saw the Anger Management 3 (I think) at Comerica in Detroit and it was awful. I saw Lupe with a few thousand people, D12 (w/ out Em) with a few hundred, and Asher Roth with like 200 (all in Milwaukee) and those shows were a lot more fun.

    • LaurynHernandex

      Yeah, whites support any thing that comes out. Like this trash. We can’t hate that. Nas last album was better than Ems and he got like 200,000 sold. We need to step up.

  • Guest

    album was better than recovery and encore but i cant get behind it with all this singing and country style shit..fuck that. waiting for the next one..maybe well act get raps on rap beats with rap features..shit id rather em had 0 features than an album full of pop, blues and country style beats and features.

    • EvilSteveDallas

      This raises an interesting point I’ve been thinking about. Em, as a white guy, with a white mother, probably grew up listening to different things than a black guy his same age….at least through his early childhood when you form some of that early emotional attachment stuff. I mean, my dad was born in 1960…so when I was a little dude the stuff I heard was what my parents listened to….being white relatively lower-middle class people, it was mostly classic rock….the Eagles, The Beatles, Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin, Springsteen, etc. Now, I know that from talking to my black friends around my age that they were exposed to different music than I was. We all grew up to love Hip-hop, but something about that music still takes me back to being a little guy sitting in the backseat of my parents car…there’s just a sense of nostalgia there.

      That being said, I can still appreciate rap that comes from a different vein than that kind of music I heard as a kid. College Dropout is a great example. All that sped-up soul that Kanye used was nothing I had ever heard before in it’s original form….but that album was awesome because it simply because it was good. I like Em plenty when he’s on ‘rap’ beats, but I just wonder if he’s getting a little bit nostalgic in his old age….just a thought.

      • Guest

        yeah thats a good point.. i understand what em is doing trying to expand n try new thng..but he should do that on his own dime.. release them as singles..not part of your album that ppl pay hard earned money for CRAP. mmlp2 was solid except a few bullshit songs kept me from buying the album bec i refuse to pay for those wack ass songs even if its in the minority.

      • EvilSteveDallas

        Got it. Yeah, I mean ultimately that’s how we voice our opinion on artists, right? I mean, our money is basically an endorsement one way or the other. “Here’s some money, keep doing what you’re doing!” or “That stuff sucks, I’m not throwing money at that nonsense.”

      • Guest

        yeah thats true.. but mainstream rap has dominated and noone shells out for real music no more which is why eminem gets away with shit music bec white ppl who hate rap but like the idea of eminem buy his shit. its sad.

      • EvilSteveDallas

        I guess what I’m left wondering then is….

        What is “real music”? Who decides what *that* is?

        What’s mainstream? Is it sales? Content?

        Who’s to blame for what you perceive as the current state of Hip-hop? The artists who produce the music that album sales would indicate lots of people love? The fans who buy ‘crap’ music? Or maybe it’s the fans who *don’t* buy the music of artists who they love? Maybe their lack of financial commitment to their favorite artists is to blame?

      • Guest

        well remember this is all my opinion. but i know alot of ppl who are capable of buying albums who just dont. n they wonder why rap switches to cater to middle class and upper class..bec thats where the money is.

      • EvilSteveDallas

        Wasn’t trying to jump on you specifically….sorry about that. It is your opinion, for sure….I guess my point is that Hip-hop is a big umbrella…there’s room for everybody under it. I think when we start getting into the ‘this’ is real vs. ‘that’ isn’t argument we start to lose the point of enjoying music.

        I tend to get put off by the whole idea of something being ‘real’ Hip-hop music because I’ve been listening long enough to see a ton of artists go from the fringe to the mainstream and then kicked to the trash pile labeled as whack without really changing. I mean, I remember when Ice Cream Man by Master P was *that shit* that we all traded at school on cassette while talking shit about the stuff on the radio….and then Cash Money came along and replaced them…and then Dre and Em….toss DMX, Ja Rule, Nelly and whoever else you want to on there, too….those dudes were all popular outside the mainstream before they hit it big….with their own fan bases who loved them before they got paid.

      • Guest

        i know you wernt jumping on me its just alot of people cant tell opinions from facts so you got to state it to alot of ppl online.

        and yeah im one of those people who made music less enjoyable for myself by making real hiphop comparisons even tho i do like some turn up music to get hyped for the club. and yes everything you said is def true its just hiphops changing so much..im only 26 but i come from the era of spitters, lyrics, meaning. so now when i hear gucci spittin some garbage on the radio it fucks with me.

        hiphop you dont need skill you just need a crazy hook and you got a 1 time record deal until you fall off and its over.

      • Guest

        which is why i appreciate wu tang, eminem, kendrick, drake (to some extent), hospin and all undergroud battlers.

      • LaurynHernandex

        Eminems brother is half black. Eminems mom been fuc kin black guys.

      • EvilSteveDallas

        I don’t know if that’s true or not, but either way I don’t think it really matters.

  • brotha_man

    the album IMO is wack. I think Lloyd banks -F.N.O and serial Killers mixtapes are way better.
    For some reason i cant bump and em album would rather hear him on a feature

    • LaurynHernandex

      Em yells too much. He knows how to rap,but he hasn’t made a hot songs besides not afraid in ten years.

  • EvilSteveDallas

    I really like the album. I think it goes out of it’s way to really reward those of us Eminem fans who have been faithful listeners from SSLP onward. There are a LOT of callbacks to older songs and albums, whether it’s a momentary switch in his flow, or the beat, or a lyric. For those of us who are already fans, I think that it’s a really enjoyable album.

    Is it the easiest album to jump onto if you’re (relatively) new fan? Probably not. It doesn’t swing for that 14-20 year old age bracket that many Hip-hop albums so desperately seem to covet. I’m about 10 years behind Em, age-wise….but I’m old enough to have kids and have been through a lot of the trials and tribulations of life to appreciate some of the stuff. That being said, SSLP came out when I was 16 or 17 and at the time, being an angry, young (white) male, his music spoke to me. Life experiences may (and do) vary, but everyone goes through frustration, family issues, relationship issues, etc.

    I’ll be the first to admit that some of the sophomoric joking is off-putting coming from a 41-year old man. To me, that aspect of Em’s lyrical content has always been the silly filler you just sort of sift through in order to get at the gold. I love Jay-Z, but Reasonable Doubt dropped in 1996…meaning, he’s been rapping about how he USED to sell dope for almost 20 years now. I just kind of assume at this point that I’m going to get a song or two on each Jay album that tells me how much of a bad-ass he was two decades ago, mixed in with songs that expose more of his internal thoughts. So, yeah, Marshall’s a silly dude. He has silly thoughts that sometimes translate into silly rhymes. But go and listen to the last verse on ‘Bad Guy’ (or hell, even the entire song) and then name me 10 other artists that show that kind of growth and self-reflection.

    I’ve read someone else talking about how you can’t talk about your parents at age 41…I don’t know that I agree with that. When you grow up with those sorts of fuck-up issues, they don’t just go away because you hit a certain age. If anything, they get worse if untreated…the infection spreads….but you also start to look back at the mistakes you’ve made as a parent and it sort of humanizes your own parents, which is what I kind of think is what’s going on in the song ‘Headlights’.

    For far too long, us Hip-hop fans tossed MCs over the age of 30-ish onto the scrap pile of history because they ‘lost touch’ or ‘weren’t hungry anymore’. I think one of the most self-defeating mistakes our culture has made is to dismiss our elder statesmen as soon as they’re “not who they used to be” in terms of content. Too often in Hip-hop, growth and change on an artist’s personal level and subject matter is equated with being wack or falling off. As a dude that has been listening to Hip-hop for like 21-ish years, I’m glad that we have 30+ artists like Kanye, Jay-Z, or Eminem, as wholly different as those artists may be.

  • Keezy Carter

    So soundscan numbers are rumors now? lol… Its gonna sell around 750k…. Its on every other site… No guess here

    • DJ7

      It’s called projection for a reason sport…it’s all guesswork…750k is approx…honestly, who gives a rats a$$ what it sales, it’s not like he’s breaking bread with anyone of you who copped it…

      • Keezy Carter

        Im not copping it and i think it sucks…Not even as good as people trying to make it… But as always with Eminem, its gonna sell..And i agree that why should we care about how much it sells? Why is it in the best section of this site??

        And if uve noticed those projections are never too far off, its calculated so it still doesnt belong in here… Its not like its a big secret or anything, but i guess the great Mr Illseed is running outta stuff to write…:p

      • DJ7

        True dat

      • LaurynHernandex

        It’s trash He got murdered by Kendrick though.

      • 0-300k

      • DJ7

        Wouldn’t faze me one way or the other fam…with all the pub he’s been getting anything less than double plat is a fail

  • Og

    I stopped fukking with eminem a long time ago SLIM SHADY LP AND MARSHAL MATHERS LP …HIS BEST WORK sadly a listen to little B Soulja Boy and Chief Keef more then him Eminem

    • TruthSerum

      I would listen to 2 bums bang trash cans together as music before the people you mentioned

      • Og

        Very funny comment thank me you got 30 likes

    • brotha_man

      are u sugguesting that Lil B, soulja boy and chief keef are better than em? there are about 10 other rappers you could have chosen. lil b is not a rapper

  • MR CHRI$$$ MACKEY

    em is that wigga

    • johnblacksad

      ha ha!

  • Dev

    Em always move units

  • johnblacksad

    only dudes movin units…

    • Blaq_Boi

      The dude that said that and the people he mentioned don’t deserve to be moving any units right now.

      • johnblacksad

        LOL!

  • Blaq_Boi

    “I asked if my skin was pale, would I sell like Eminem or Adele?” Units are NOT equal to talent. I don’t fux with Eminem anymore… His music is garbage now.

    • LaurynHernandex

      13 year old are about to attack you lol

  • Weedras

    i don’t know Eminem last few albums were a bit monotonous to me so i didn’t them… i’ve heard that he’s gone back into some personal ish on this one so maybe i’ll give it a shot.. but the singles i’ve heard so far haven’t reeled me in..i’m about to look up that rihanna collabo…

  • JimJames29

    You liked recovery better? Seriously?
    I would list his albums like this:
    1. Eminem Show (I understand why most would go for MMLP, but to me Eminem Show is a better representation of what he is about (hence the title) instead of the more pure-hiphop sound of MMLP, to me Eminem Show was more his ‘personal brand’ of hiphop).
    2. MMLP – Another classic, he had pop culture on lock in those days, not just hiphop
    3. Slim Shady LP – Funny, insane, underground-sounding rap album
    4. Encore – A bunch of weak songs, a lot of it you can’t really ‘bang’ or just doesn’t have that much replay value because its mostly aiming for laughs or its just too personal to really be interesting for listeners (like yellow brick road), but I like songs like ‘never enough’, ‘old times sake’ , and ‘rain man’ and ‘my 1st single’ are pretty funny
    5. MMLP 2 – As long as you don’t compare it to the top three albums, its solid, entertaining, masterful rapping on some pretty good, uncharacteristic beats
    6. Relapse – This was mostly boring to me, bleak, uninteresting hard beats, crazy rapping thats neither funny or threatening
    7. Recovery – Terrible to me, weak punchlines, menopausal content, light, poppy beats. Only song I really care for is where he details his drug use, which is both a hilarious and emotional song.

    • EvilSteveDallas

      I think ‘Encore’ is still the weakest to me. ‘Big Weenie’ is by far the worst song Eminem song I’ve heard on any album. I think people do forget about ‘Yellow Brick Road’ or ‘Toy Soldiers’ (Which is probably a more poignant song since Proof’s death). ‘Old Times Sake’ is on Relapse, though. I think Relapse and Recovery were sort of specific in tone. For Relapse, it was like someone said to Em, “Make an entire Slim Shady horror-core album.”, and for Recovery, he was told “Now get out there and inspire somebody.” To me, the order would go: 1) MMLP, 2) MMLP2/TES/Bad Meets Evil/SSLP 3) Recovery/Relapse 4) Encore.