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Kanye West Talks Jay Z Realizing Tupac’s Dream, Dame Dash Saving His Life + More


(AllHipHop News) When Alexander McQueen isn’t getting nominated for Oscar’s he’s interviewing the most polarizing Hip Hop artist of the past 15 years. The Golden Globe winning director interviewed Kanye West about his history of Grammy snubs, an interesting story of how Dame Dash saved his life and more.

When asked during his Interview magazine interview how he dealt with the negative criticism “mentally, physically, spiritually” following his incident with Taylor Swift at the 2009 Video Music Awards, Kanye West answered quite matter-of-factly:

It’s funny that you would say “mentally, physically, spiritually” because my answer before you even said that was going to be “god, sex, and alcohol.”

In the interview, Kanye says openly compares himself to innovators such as Steve Jobs, Bill Gates and others to give people a better context of his potential.  West also remarked that one of the people he as often been compared to, Tupac, had a dream that has since manifested in the form of one of Tupac’s rivals:

You know, some different friends of mine have been showing me these interviews that Tupac did and how they’re very simple and to the point. I watched them, and one of the things that Tupac kept saying is that he wanted thugs to be recognized. Now Jay-Z is a multi-hundred-millionaire who came from the streets, so Tupac’s mission, in a way, has been realized. But my mission is very different from Tupac’s—and I’m not Tupac.

Kanye West is now a multiplatinum superstar who “moved his family out the country so you can’t see where I stay”. But according to West himself, he hated his first trip to France which was orchestrated by his former labelhead and the man who signed him to Roc-a-Fella, Dame Dash. Dame did more than organize the trip for Kanye and a few other Roc-A-Fella artists to go to London, especially for Kanye:

But at the time, there was a rapper out of Chicago who wanted me to show up at some event of his, and he was trying to threaten me in some way physically if I didn’t show up because we had done a record together. And Dame Dash had to man-up on the situation and apply a bit of gangster to have them fall back, just for me to be able to get on that first flight to London.

Check out Kanye speak on his continuous Best Album snub at the Grammy’s, what he wished Watch The Throne would have done for him and more here.

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  • Jared

    Bump J? Only rapper I can think of from Chicago that he did music with earlier in his career. Not from the Chi so who else?

    • Kevin Anthony

      Common

      • Jared

        I can’t see common physically going at Kanye though.

      • Kevin Anthony

        Lol Me neither

    • Jayson C Williams

      It is bump. Had a friend from jefferey and Stoney island aka da 1.. They told me this story years ago. But surprisingly that hasn’t stopped kanye from holding bump down in jail. Either way I’m glad kanye doesn’t give off that I’m so gangsta bs.. He’s real. A lil crazy but he’s a smart dude. To bad he feels the need to always say it.

      • D. Rose in the paint

        It wasnt Bump though, it was Payroll

      • Jayson C Williams

        Word? If you from the chi explain the story so we can get some facts?

    • D. Rose in the paint

      Nah….Im from Chicago and I was active in that era….the rapper was Payroll…Kanye did beats for the label he was on and a lot of those beats ended up being on The Blueprint eventually….Payroll actually has a version of “Never Change” floating around the net….its rumored that Payroll hit Kanye with a bottle on his head at Isaac Hayes night club.

      • Inmadopicouroz✓QUEENSᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        ur “era” In the game resembles D Rose the last 2 seasons. QUEENS!

      • D. Rose in the paint

        You couldnt help but say SOMETHING negative could you….lmaoo. You’re one of those people who see negative in everything….lmaooo! I bet you get mad at the sun for shining.

      • Inmadopicouroz✓QUEENSᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        nah I get mad at ur momma for not taking her birth control.

      • Jared

        oh iight. That name do sound familiar.

    • Inmadopicouroz✓QUEENSᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      He Talking bout Chief Keef. Nicca was a G even when he was pre-K.

      • Jared

        lol

  • Kevin Anthony

    For something different check this, Kevin Anthony-21 on soundcloud

  • Inmadopicouroz✓QUEENSᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    1st Beanie Sigel saved this nicca from that Diner incident. Now Dame? Damn and you know Ye aint going to throw no kind of love to either of them from the old Roca Fella crew. I aint saying u gotta support them and put dents in your bank account but damn at least some type of shout out.

    • Jared

      At Least give Beanie a couple beats. He was truly nice with it.

    • Jayson C Williams

      He just shouted out dame for saving him?? That’s all a man needs, is recognition. You sound like he owe them Kim kardashian or something. Chill.

      • Inmadopicouroz✓QUEENSᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        stfu FU(K NICCA! Give a fu(k about how u feel.

      • Jayson C Williams

        You corny ass queens clown. I’m on Jamaica ave. what u gunna do about it?? Lol. Stop with ya fake thug blogging. I’m at the coliseum

      • Jayson C Williams

        So stop taking tough to ppl on here trying to punk ppl cause ill punk you in real life.

      • Inmadopicouroz✓QUEENSᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        im in QUEENS nicca. U PUZZY!

    • D. Rose in the paint

      I wonder if you know about anything that actually matters….like history, math, science….you know information that can actually make you money…LMAOO…or do you only know about rap, streets and foolishness…..I have a feeling your head is full of nothingness

      • W.E.B. Du Bois

        D. Rose – your right – and he’s getting worse – that’s why I knew the people of Queens would not give one vote for this waste reppin’ them

      • Inmadopicouroz✓QUEENSᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        now u mad because I bust in your mom and you taking it personal like she take my D. Im all about making money LEGIT! No other way. All that school stuff, been their, done that. I know the streets because that’s what raised me, Im not some weak nicca from the Chi that kills my own people. D ROSE WILL NEVER GO IN THE PAINT EVER AGAIN, NO WONDER U A WEAK NICCA, ITS IN UR NAME! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Black Jay

    I got nothing but respect for Kanye. A lot of people are tripping about the interviews he’s done (myself included) but you can’t hate on him if what he’s saying is true. Like it or not, Jigga would definitely be a different caliber rapper if it wasn’t for all the beats Kanye put behind him and his label. And as much as people wanna say he wasn’t loyal to Dame, it was a mutually beneficial biz relationship. Jigga and Dame made mad loot off of Yeezy’s sweat. So he don’t owe Dame a damn penny.

  • CCB4life

    Twista

  • atlantahiphopshop

    Pac also said in his interviews, “The only person who will REALLY change the way our people are treated in hip hop by the industry and corporate america, will not be concerned with money.” If money is your motive, you will sell out your people, period. So I don’t know what the hell Ye is screaming about JayZ Penneys.

    • tye

      You’re naive and foolish to think Tupac wasn’t driven by money as well. Pac drained that west vs east hype bullshit for all its worth to capitalized on Money..

      • ladynamor

        False. Besides, Pac never said he was that person. GTFOH

    • Black Jay

      I don’t know what you were looking at but I remember seeing champagne, b*tches, AND money in more than one PAC video. Tupac was a real n*gga but don’t get it twisted. He was down for capitalism just like every other rapper.

      • ladynamor

        Theres a difference between making an entertaining video with rented cars and trick hoes vs. reality. Go watch the videos of Pacs interviews. Yes, he was an entertainer who used the necessary tools of entertainment to sell a record and get heard, but a capitalist? Thats a real stretch. He died too broke to be a capitalist. If he was a capitalist he probably would still be alive today making moves like Dr. Dre. He didnt play the game. ALSO, He never said HE was THAT Messiah. He said “THE PERSON” not actually meaning himself, so its all irrelevant. Good try though. Stick to the script “Pacs Dream”, which has NOTHING to do with Jay-Z’s vulture capitalistic ideology or Kanye West in his Gentlemen s Blouse.

      • Black Jay

        Look…. Here’s another person trying to cleanse Tupac from the sh*t hole that is capitalism. Let me get at you on this one…..
        Why did Tupac go to Deathrow Records? What was his reasoning for it?
        Okay…. I remember seeing Tupac and Suge in a video counting large handfuls of cash and talking about,
        “We gettin’ money over here at Deathrow.”
        Okay…. The fact that you would think that Tupac would fake in his video and have his soul be about something that’s higher proves my point exactly. Capitalism is straight selling. And if Tupac wasn’t about it in his private life, why would he be about it in public if he wasn’t trying to make a dollar? Your logic is flawed dude. Try again. Tupac died broke because of this one solid reason: LIKE MOST OF RAPPERS TODAY, HE WAS A POOR MONEY MANAGER. Bottom line. That’s it.
        Tupac was beast. I can’t front. But to say he wasn’t in it for money? N*gga please!!!!

      • ladynamor

        cap·i·tal·ist
        ˈkapətlist/
        noun
        noun: capitalist; plural noun: capitalists
        1.
        a wealthy person who uses money to invest in trade and industry for profit in accordance with the principles of capitalism. Pac was just a rapper out to make it. Capitalist? S T R E T C H.

        And Im a woman, Not a ni99a, chill.

      • Black Jay

        cap·i·tal·ist
        ˈkapətlist/
        noun
        noun: capitalist; plural noun: capitalists
        1.
        a wealthy person who uses money to invest in trade and industry for profit in accordance with the principles of capitalism.
        “the creation of the factory system by nineteenth-century capitalists”
        synonyms:financier, investor, industrialist; More
        magnate, tycoon, entrepreneur, businessman, businesswoman
        “a capitalist who made his fortune in textiles”
        adjective
        adjective: capitalist
        1.
        practicing, supporting, or based on the principles of capitalism.
        “capitalist countries”

        ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

        If you’re going to make a point by printing the definition, print the whole thing. ALL RAPPERS ARE BUSINESSMEN. ASK RUSSELL SIMMONS.

      • ladynamor

        There is a difference between a businessman and a capitalist. Pac was a rapper, not an investor or entrepreneur so to say. Besides you get my point. Don’t argue for arguments sake. The headline to THIS story was

        Kanye West Talks Jay Z Realizing Tupac’s Dream, another stretch.

      • Black Jay

        Look Lady,
        We’re not going to agree on this. He had over a million dollars in the bank. He wasn’t owning a fast food carry out. He was making movies. He wasn’t investing because he was too busy spending money on court cases. Court cases that HE CREATED. But that still makes him a Capitalist. He was an entrepreneur.

        And my apologies sister for calling you n*gga. I meant no offense. Please accept my apology.

      • Nick Cyrus

        1. Tupac died with $50k to his name

        2. He signed with Suge because Suge got him out of jail, he literally had to sign the contract from his cell. He fired the lawyer and was in the process of realizing his dream when he was killed by an unknown assailant at the age of 25. At the age of 25 Malcom X was a convicted felon who hadn’t even changed his name yet. At the age of 25 Jay-Z hadn’t even released an album yet. Suge controlled every aspect of the financial operation, as well as a majority of the marketing decisions behind death row.

        3. Tupacs said his depiction of the gangster lifestyle was used as a way to reach those who saw no alternative. He lived many different lifestyles and had a very broad perspective that explored the range of human emotion like no other. T.H.U.G. L.I.F.E. stood for the hate you gave you little infants fucks everyone. You could compare him to Van Gogh, Vrubel, or Picasso in that regard. (Imagine if he had lived as long as Picasso though) but I believe he had a political influence as well, in ways that Jay-Z and Kanye West never will.

        3. I read your earlier comments, many great figures who’s legacy will far endure Jay-Z’s have been killed by ‘suckas’ including Jesus Christ, now I’m not saying Tupac is jesus or even close, just an incredible artist who had the ability to be quite a political figure.. I have no idea what point you were trying to prove there.

        I suggest you do your research before you go out of your way to discredit someone. I also suggest you stop being guided by your ego.

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  • FRUKOH

    dame didn’t get gangster with anyone, he a loud mouthed, empty barrel. fruk ye, that car crash clearly didnt humble his ass like it shoulda

  • D. Rose in the paint

    it seems like to people who are obsessed with Tupac are:
    a.) People who were babies or kids when he was alive b.) Knuckleheads, thugs, fake thugs, and wanna be tough guys c.) People who were never into REAL hip-hop so they only go off what they’ve been told by the media d.) hood rats obsessed with thug images

    Everybody else knows that Pac was an average lyricist who was nowhere near as skilled as most of the rappers in his day. His popularity came because of his image, movies, and controversy….NOT HIS LYRICAL SKILLS.. movies like Juice, Poetic Justice, and Above The Rim and he had a few cross-over songs that were women friendly which made him more popular than the average rapper at the time. But he wasnt even in the Top 50 best rappers in the mid 90’s….and if you werent at least a teenager in the 90’s you will never understand that! Tupac is merely a product of the ignorant media fooling the uninformed consumer ONCE AGAIN!

    • RazaBladeKing

      Can’t comment on people “obsessed with pac”, but as for that 2nd paragraph,
      BULLS***. “Nowhere near as skilled as most of the rappers of his day”? The early to mid-90s? How old were you? Vanilla Ice, MC Hammer, Coolio, Domino, I could go on and on about how many lukewarm MCs were on back then. You clearly think everyone was Nas and Rakim. If anything, Pac’s lyrical skills are underrated too much, usually by butthurt NY d***riders. Go listen to verse 2 of “How Do U Want It”, 8 straight bars with 4 syllable rhymes. You may disagree (matter of *opinion*), but the fact that he’s the only rapper whose lyrics are curriculum for a college course, and the fact that all of his pre-death albums still get spins 20 yrs later speaks for itself. His legacy is untouchable, no matter how hard the people obsessed with s***ing on that legacy may try.

      • D. Rose in the paint

        Im 36 buddy….and I can tell you were not apart of the hip-hop scene back in the 90’s based on your statement…even the less popular rappers were shitting on Pac LYRICALLY…why would you even mention: “Vanilla Ice, MC Hammer, Coolio, Domino” <—-they were bottom of the barrel gimmicks…Lets talk REAL EMCEES what about KRS1, Method Man, Poor Righteous Teachers, Redman, Masta Ace, Craig G, Common, Das Efx, K-Solo, Gangstarr, Black Sheep, Brand Nubians, Mobb Deep, Showbiz and AG, Lord Finesse, Kool G Rap, Kane, Killah Priest, Mic Geronimo, AZ, Del The Funky Homosapien, Big L, Ras Kass, Chino, Saafir, ….I can go on for months….Im barely touching the surface of lyricists and ill fuckin rappers that were highly skilled!

      • RazaBladeKing

        I’ll give you some of those (although I’d put KRS in a different era), but the fact that you’ve got Das EFX, Mic Geronimo, Chino XL, Mobb Deep, Method Man (and I’m a Wu fan),or Redman (and I’m a Reggie fan) above Pac shows that you’re either biased or unfamiliar with Pac’s catalogue. Wasn’t nothin “average” about 2Pacalypse Now, Strictly 4 My N****s, Me Against the World, All Eyez on Me, or Makaveli.

        Again, the proof is in the pudding, and his legacy speaks for itself. Nothin said here will change that. And none of those guys you mentioned (except KRS) has had Pac’s consistency, or impact.

      • D. Rose in the paint

        His “legacy” is the same as every other media and corporate fueled “legacy”…..Elvis, Kurt Cobain, Marilyn Monroe, Martin Luther King……they make money off of these people’s deaths…but there is always ONE THING IN COMMON…is people who were around when they were alive to let you know that they were OVERRATED and not as great as the media and corporations are selling you on!

      • D. Rose in the paint

        Pac slipped his way in because of the media…he shouldnt even be in the “Top 10 emcees” conversation! But when you are Hollywood star the perception of everything about you changes! More people watch movies then listen to music…..Tupac was more of a movie star than a rapper. His movies catapulted his music…..his music was average outside of a few standout songs.

    • Brindle

      There was no way for you to type that without looking like an idiot… if you had any since, you’d know Pac’s popularity started with his lyrics, not word play but the lyrics he wrote, most wouldn’t write… while your so-called lyricist where rapping about scientific parts of the brain (the cerebellum was popular for rap heads) he was talken bout crooked cops, politicians , etc… YOU ARE A FOOL. to try to narrow hiphop… YOU ARE A FOOL, to try to pretend you know or learned something you obviously didn’t know or learn… WE ALL QUALIFY TO HAVE AN OPINION, YOU DON’T QUALIFY TO SHARE YOURS…

      • D. Rose in the paint

        You’re talkin about I dont have SENSE yet you cant even spell it (SINCE)! LMAO

      • Brindle

        dumb dumb, you put “to people” instead of “two people” then gave 3 (a-c)… so do we really wanna worry about spelling, get my point…

      • W.E.B. Du Bois

        your dumb – you wanna critiziese but you can’t think of nothing

      • Brindle

        RE-READ

      • W.E.B. Du Bois

        nah

      • Brindle

        the only person that can read in your family left somewhere? have them re-read it for you when they get back.

      • D. Rose in the paint

        And as far as Tupac talking about “crooked cops, politicians, etc.” …..I hate to break your heart but Ice Cube was talking about ALL OF THAT and then some on “AmeriKKKas Most Wanted”, and “Death Certificate”…both came out before Tupac dropped an album! Same wih Public Enemy, Boogie Down Productions/KRS1 were on their 5th album talking about ALL OF THAT before Pac even dropped his first album. Poor Righteous Teachers, X-Clan, Lakim Shabazz, Geto Boys…. Tupac didnt start none of that stuff….in fact he came AFTER it was all said and done!

      • Brindle

        at what point did someone say he started it?? the only thing he started before all the people you named, was a sincere passion in attitude, action and vocals… he was one of the 1st to get “so-called” thugs to listen to the politics of things most the people you named sound exactly the same regardless of topic. (chuck d can rap about racist whites or sex with white woman and his vocals, flow and tone will stay the same)… Also, on the west and south, Public Enemy, X-clan, Farrakan, 5% and the NOI have no influence on the streets… it was pac that opened up a lot of eyes… Now lets get to you- you’ve learned something incorrectly but you’re so impressed with yourself you don’t see it… and you dare not be wrong on a website which is way you like, the whole “lol, lmfao, lmaooo thing when you actually know you didn’t laugh… it is you that is mainstream and caught into images… as long as the image is you pretending to be correct, you’re satisfied… YOU ARE SIMPLE MINDED

      • D. Rose in the paint

        Pac didnt “open” up any eyes that Ice Cube, NWA, Scarface, and Public Enemy hadnt ALREADY opened! Stop! Tupac came AFTER these people!! He didnt cover any new territory that hadnt been covered…so stop with your “Tupac is the greatest” BS! Its sounds silly to those who were there!

      • Brindle

        yeah, you got some emotions invested in this… and i’m assuming you from the east coast… you’re glued on the word “after and greatest”… i haven’t used any of these words in my argument…. RE-READ… and everyone knows “HIPHOP STARTED ON THE WEST”

      • D. Rose in the paint

        D Rose=Chicago!!! LMAOOO Context clues sir

      • D. Rose in the paint

        Hip-Hop started on the west? What the west side of the Bronx..LMMFAOOO!!! SMH! hilarious

      • HEISENBERG

        who is the first rapper to do anything and become great off that??
        All rappers do what is already been done..BUT very few can do it BETTER…..and tupac spoke to the soul the best.
        There hasn’t been a mother dedicated rap song as poignant as DEAR MAMA.
        and to contrast….
        there hasn’t been a DISS SONG as venomous and direct as HIT EM UP. ( the few that contest would sample some part of tupac anyway)
        Greatest rapper?…
        Yes so far…And 90% of the best rappers AND fans out there would agree….so who are you???

      • Black Jay

        Cosign! In my book n*ggas get credit for staying alive. Not by getting killed by the bullet of a sucka n*gga. I’m just saying.

      • D. Rose in the paint

        Im speaking FACTS not OPINION

      • Brindle

        then i’m sorry, you’re dumber than i accused you of

      • D. Rose in the paint

        Anybody with half of a brain can read this argument and tell who is more astute and has sound logic…..LMAOO….only person you are fooling is yourself

    • truthhurts

      Obviously you must fall under one of those categories. What makes Pac the greatest ever and until another rapper surpasses his impact is simple; Pac spoke to the soul of the listener and when you’re done listening to a Pac song or album you feel the need to make or cause change. You feel the need to make a difference to the statue quo. You feel the need to want to change your community, life, or even the world. Pac wasn’t concerned with being the best lyricist. In his own words “I don’t care about being the best rapper; I just wanna be the realest rapper” and he very much did accomplish that. No other rapper has since evoked emotion and sparked the interest as Pac did. DMX came close with his first 3 albums. People like to compare Pac to BIG but their bodies of work don’t match up and after listening to a Biggie song or album your inspired to go write doper and better lyrics for yourself, but after listening to Pac your inspired to better the world. Ask yourself what’s more important.

      • D. Rose in the paint

        LMMFAOO!! Your whole opinion is based in commercial and mainstream major label rap! You are apart of the uninformed rap fans plaguing hip-hop. You have no clue about anything else and its obvious! Pac, DMX, Biggie thats all you know about…smh…. LMAOOO…I could throw names out there and you wouldnt even have a clue who these people were, and these are legends….so I will shut up and let you continue with your mainstream version of “hip-hop”!

      • truthhurts

        Dude you’re clearly a clown. I usually don’t reply but I’ll do you this favor. I saw Pac in concert in ’96 when he came to the New Orleans superdome and Big a few months after lil boy. I know more about hiphop and lyricism than you can comprehend. Without googling tell me who Big Mike is or CrimeBoss, or South Central Cartel, or Black Thought for that matter haha. Do yourself a favor and go listen to Public Enemy’ “She watch channel zero” and try to get the message cause clearly that’s what you’re tuned in to and you need help. Signing off….

      • D. Rose in the paint

        Crime Boss was on I think Suave House Records …I had that album twice…he had the one song that had the same sample as “Foe The Love of Money”…Big Mike was apart of Rap A Lot he became apart of Geto Boys when Willie D left…he had a solo album in 97 “All A Dream” ….I had that album….SCC was Havok and Prodege….they were garbage I remember their video on Rap City…cut it out! I know rap from EVERY area!!

      • D. Rose in the paint

        Now!! Im well versed on Hip-hop….WELL VERSED!! from every part of America!! midwest, south, west, east….all of it! And this is why I can tell you that Pac is overrated!

      • 84stickupkid

        Hey man been reading you posts…these dumbass idiots on this website think they know it all but when you ask them who they favorite rapper is half of em would probably say JZ. This website is ALLHIPHOP, not ALLJZKANYEANDDRAKE. But every 2nd story is ”JZ wiped his ass today”or ”Kanye spazzes out” or some stupid shit like that. KEEPING THE HIP HOP COMMUNITY DUMBED DOWN. Weve heard about these POP artists ad nauseum, surely their is more to talk about in the HIP HOP world then these fools. And for the record, Big Mike stepped in 4 Willie D when he left GB on Til Death Do Us Part his debut being Somethin Serious in 94, CrimeBoss dropped Conflicts and Confusion in 97 on Suave House with some dope production a from EA SKI. South Central Cartel consisted of Havoc/ Havikk The Rhime Son / Prodeje and dropped their debut back in the early 90’s South Central Madness and Black Thought be the lead rapper of the Roots whose debut Masterpiece Theater was shelved but he did release Hardware from it as a 12”.

      • Black Jay

        I don’t agree with your perspective. First and foremost, The Black Man is a working project in motion. To simply say there is one Emcee or one rapper that outranks all is impossible. Tupac, during his period, stood for all of the strengths and weaknesses of the Black Man in general. He was a walking contradiction with the intelligence and charisma to let his message be heard. Like him or not, you had to pay attention to what he was saying.

        Now did that make him the absolute best artist? ABSOLUTELY NOT!

        At that moment in time, there was a lot of anger in The Black Community for various reasons. And Tupac was the megaphone for those ills. Just as Public Enemy and NWA held their moments. His voice was needed. And for some people, it was in direct parallel of what was happening in the streets.

        Now if you were to take Tupac as an artist and dissect what he contributed to the art of hip hop, his contribution was tremendous. His work ethic to this day is only matched by a few. But he was by no means the best rapper. Lyrically he wasn’t even in the top 10. And that is the truth. His music didn’t change the wheel or bring forth a new level of lyricism to the art form. Most of the beats that he chose were questionable and of very poor production. His catalog isn’t filled with hits.

        Now does that take away from his impact as a person? No. In my opinion Tupac was more of a leader than a rapper. BUT A TREMENDOUSLY FLAWED LEADER. His life was filled with dumb mistakes. But that’s what made him so real to a lot of people. Tupac was us. No man is perfect. No man is flawless. We all struggle with our demons. And that is the reason Tupac has such an attractive aura to Black society now. He is our greatest triumphs and our weakest failures. But he embodies us.

        But to call him the greatest MC? No. Absolutely not. He wasn’t.
        But to call him a leader? Yes. Much more so than your average rapper.

      • truthhurts

        Why are you misconstruing my statement? Never did I say he was the best rapper or lyricist. I said no other rapper has had such an emotional impact up until this point as Pac. And my proff of that is how copied Pac is by rappers who came after him to the point some even claim to be him. Yes he was a walking contradiction, but who isn’t or wouldn’t be under certain pressures and circumstances? Especially the ones he faced. I’m in no way a Tupac super fan or Stan nor am I his official spokesperson but I have to call a spade a spade. Don’t just read my statement; comprehend it as well. Only through reading comprehension should you clearly understand what it is I said without twisting it.

      • Black Jay

        “What makes Pac the greatest ever and until another rapper surpasses his
        impact is simple; Pac spoke to the soul of the listener and when you’re
        done listening to a Pac song or album you feel the need to make or cause
        change.”

        THESE ARE YOUR WORDS, ARE THEY NOT?
        Say what you mean. Mean what you say. You called him the greatest ever. The greatest ever of what? Of politics? Of R&B? Of washing cars? Hell no! You meant the greatest MC. Don’t back down now. He’s not. And my statement above goes thoroughly over the reasons he isn’t.

        ANYBODY DISAGREE? READ MY POST ABOVE AND GET AT ME.

      • truthhurts

        Ok, I’m the one who didn’t clarify. I have no problem admitting a mistake. I meant the greatest in resonating emotionally with all cultures to the point they would feel the need to want to offer change. That’s all. There is no greatest MC or rapper and in no way am I backing down or changing my statement. Only clarifying

      • Black Jay

        Cool. I get your message now. I don’t agree with it, but I get it.

      • 84stickupkid

        Who’s the greatest MC then?

      • Black Jay

        That’s a question too difficult to quantify. If anything, in hip hop’s young history we would have more of a Mount Rushmore for hip hop. Forefathers if you will…. But one MC cannot be above all others because different individuals contributed to what we have today. And it’s ever changing. THERE CAN NEVER BE A GREATEST MC.

      • 84stickupkid

        Ok who’s Mount Rushmore then?

    • HEISENBERG

      “Tupac is product of the media”…??? LMAO!!! u know nothing about tupac and his music!!…it was that very media that was trying to destroy him, dirty up his name and label him a criminal!
      it was the real rap fans, black people as a society, and black people around the world who truly understood what he stood for….and much more after he passed away because remember it wasn’t the media releasing all that
      posthumous material…those mixTapes, those cassettes…internet had no role in it……it was suge, it was deathrow, it was the streets…..the streets were flooded with his body of work….it was then that a lot more people realised the greatness of this man’s work ethic, his trials and tribulations, his pain, his rise and his fall…..we all watched it….and he was able to translate it all Ito his music….real life….no gimmick!!!
      this was tupac….
      NOT the greatest lyricist
      BUT damn near one of the greatest rappers ever
      And You sir are so misinformed.

    • Nick Cyrus

      I hope you read my earlier post.

  • jubilee shine

    Steve McQueen fool

  • Dan_Tebasco

    Kanye don’t talk about Tupac, and do not talk about Tupac’s dreams and saying Jay-Z somehow embodies it, k thanx

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  • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

    Kanye or Jay Z will never be Tupac…These ni&&az are sellouts…Pac was never a sellout…

    • Black Jay

      Yeah…. Living is highly overrated….. I’d rather be alive with mad loot and chicks than to die at the hands of a sucka n*gga. Who do you think really won? I’m just saying….

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        If having all that comes at the expense of your own people, are you really living?

      • Black Jay

        You can say whatever you want but in my book you get more points for living. Not dieing over some ignorant ‘thug’ sh*t. Tupac was not an angel. He did as much damage to Black people as any other rapper. “I get around” was not an ode to automobiles. Tupac and Jigga are cut from the same cloth.

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        Tupac and Jay are nothing alike…Tupac shot two white people for profiling a black man…Jay Z does business with white people who profile black people…

      • Black Jay

        Dude….. Tupac died over some n*gga sh*t. Jay Z’s Barney’s money is putting hundreds of Black kids through college. No contest.

      • bisolabliss

        What college kids you speak of? Where and when did that fallacy occur?

        Elaborate and none of that second hand info that can’t be backed up please.

      • Black Jay

        Dude. We are in the age of technology. I’m not doing your research for you. Type in WHAT IS JAY Z’s THE CARTER FOUNDATION FUNDS USED FOR? Type it in google and do your own searching. People need to stop being so quick to throw shade on someone rather than getting the whole story.

      • 84stickupkid

        Jay Z’s brand promotes the ILLUMINATI…THAT IS A FACT. If you can’t admit it why should anyone believe what u say?

      • Black Jay

        I’m not here to get anyone to believe what I say. It’s a forum. Some will believe and some won’t. That’s life’s rule dude. I’m just a willing participant in living that life.

      • 84stickupkid

        Did Jay Z’s brand promote Illuminati images…yes or no?

      • Black Jay

        N*gga didn’t you try to debate me about this two days ago? We’re not going to litigate this again. You want my response? Read the feed from 2 days ago. Jigga still winning. And you still hating. Ain’t sh*t changed.

      • 84stickupkid

        U wouldn’t admit it then, and you won’t admit it now. Now MAN UP or keep SIDESTEPPIN…Did JZ’s brand promote the Illuminati? Yes or no?

      • Black Jay

        N*gga, you can’t read? What did I just say? You want my response? Read the feed from 2 days ago. Jigga still winning. And you still hating. Ain’t a damn thing changed. Next!

      • 84stickupkid

        You don’t have the guts to give a straight yes or no answer. I don’t have the time to reread your crap from the other day and from memory you was talkin flying saucer shit, that’s it and I never got an answer. 2 dayz is 2 dayz ago, I’m talkin HERE AND NOW. You were a JZ excuser just like you are now. N-gga this, N-gga that, stop thinkin you street and give a simple yes or no?

      • Black Jay

        Dude you know as much about me as I know about the molecular density of the sun. So try another tactic to get me to answer your question. Cause that ain’t working. You still hating. Jigga still winning. Read my response from 2 days ago. Ain’t a damn thing changed.

      • 84stickupkid

        Ain’t no tactic, you can’t MAN UP and give a straight yes or no to my question… that much is TRUE.

      • Black Jay

        Thank God I don’t live by what your definition of “Man” is. Or else we would all be shooting at spaceships and debating the Martian invasion of Pluto.

      • 84stickupkid

        No, if you lived by my definition…you would give a straight yes or no and stand by it. But u are unable to do that. All u got is rambling answers about flying saucers. Weak.

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        Since you on the subject of Jay Z foundation, this must have slipped your attention:

        “According to reports, hip-hop’s biggest figure only gave his own charity, The Shawn Carter Foundation, $6,431 in 2010. Jay-Z walked home with $67 million that year. In the same year, Beyonce made $87 million, after taxes, and contributed nary a copper penny to her husband’s scholarship foundation.”

        http://theurbandaily(.)com/2012/02/08/jay-z-cheating-charity-out-of-money/

      • Black Jay

        Ummm……. What year are we in?

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        If you believe Barney’s is benefit somebody other than Jay Z, you about as dumb as you sound…This the same person who just released a song with Rick Ross glorifying selling drugs to the people…How many kids you met who have directly benefited from Jay Z scholarship…this the same person who said Jesus can’t save you, but he really care about the people huh? LMAO!!! How many songs Jay Z got talking about going to college? Then ask how many songs he got about selling crack? Dude you lost…

      • Black Jay

        Okay…. And? Tupac died at the hand of a sucka n*gga. That can’t be disputed. Jigga is alive with a family and prosperity. I don’t know about you, but I know which path I would prefer. And it’s not the dead n*gga.

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        You are not very wise…Tupac legacy transcends generations…Tupac will be remembered long after Jay Z is dead and gone…That’s what you don’t understand. Its not about how much money you have…Its about how many lives you can touch…People like Malcom,Martin,Christ, ect. didn’t have long lives, but they have been remembered for generations…No matter how much money you have, there is always someone with more…Money don’t make the man…You think when this story ends someone like Carlos Slim, who is the richest man in the world, will have a greater legacy than someone like Malcom or Christ, who by the way didn’t have a house when he died?…You have a lot to learn youngster…

      • Black Jay

        Dude…. You’re assuming a lot and you’re kinda embarrassing yourself. Read my response to TRUTHHURTS down below. After you read that, holla back.

      • Sy

        So….if you’re killed by a sucka n*gga, then you’re a sucka? You can’t discredit him because he was killed by a sucka. The reason that people like Pac is because he stood for something, like most great blacks of the past. The reason you can walk around here freely is partly because of those in the past with a fearless mindset like his. Soldiers keep a society balanced, because they’re willing fight for things while others are afraid.

      • Black Jay

        Before you jump to conclusions about my opinion of Tupac, read my response to TRUTHHURTS down below.

        And soldiers are the pawns of society. Generals run the show. Don’t get it twisted.

        Getting killed by a Sucka Nigga is only bad if it’s self inflicted. Meaning, it wasn’t an accident. Tupac brought his death upon himself by hanging with ignorant assed Suge Knight. That says a lot about how intelligent he was in protecting the most valuable resource on earth. His life.

      • Sy

        And which category would you fit in, a soldier or a general? Because all great generals were once soldiers, and soldiers become generals, therefore, generals don’t look down on soldiers as just being pawns. You’re doing the “who would you rather be” thing, based on who’s alive and who’s dead, so self preservation seems to be your main concern, and that’s fine; but believe it or not, there are people in this world that put the progress of mankind ahead of their own lives, not because they are gullible or stupid, but because they know others will have to live in this world when they are gone, including their children, and their children’s children.

        And Pac didn’t die because he was stupid, but because he did something stupid. He may have screamed “Thug Life” to identify himself, but when he spoke to the people, he said, “we gotta change the way we think, eat, live, and treat each other”, those are his lyrics from “That’s Just The Way It Is”, those are the words of a General in the making. If I had a son that though like that, I would be proud of his caring of his people, his empathy, his knowledge, his generosity, his ability to get people to follow, his overall concern. Being rich with a nice looking wife does nothing for others if you don’t show a true concern and voice your opinions, those are the real pawns. No one is obligated to help others, but you do more harm than good when you’re just sucking wealth from society without contributing, that’s selfishness…..something that I wouldn’t be that proud of.

  • HatesElvis

    These niggas out here can’t see Pac they don’t even stay in the yo long enough to out work Pac…

  • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

    2pac=GOAT…Pac wrote and recorded “7 Day Theory” in 3 days. And during those 3 days, he recorded 21 songs. That’s 7 songs a day…He finished “All Eyes On Me” in 2 weeks. He wrote “Hail Mary” in 30 mins. As a matter of fact, he released 3 classic albums in 1 year. And “All Eyez on Me” was a double album, which is considered two albums. So that really 4 albums in 1 year…No rapper in history has ever made classics that fast…Plus, Pac never had a Dr. Dre, Rick Rubin, Just Blaze, Kanye West, or Timberland who are argueably some of the best hip hop producers ever. Also, in 5 years, Pac created 17 years worth of material. If that’s not the GOAT, i don’t know what is….One more thing, at 25, Pac had 4 classic albums under his belt…Tell me how many your favorite rapper today had at 25…

    Jay nice, but he has a long way to go before he reaches Pac level…peace.

    • bigdoe6

      Pac had Johnny J. I swear Johnny J was cold with the beats.

      • TruthHurts

        Great comment, I can tell you know your music.

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        What classic albums Johnny J has outside of working with Pac?

      • 84stickupkid

        Johnny J only had 1 solo album I GOTTA BE ME. Him and Daz made the majority of the classic beats on All Eyez On Me. RESPECT…

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        like I said, what classics do he have outside of working with Pac…In the studio, many producers have said that Pac was calling the shots on how things were done…He even took the worst producers on Death Row and made “Don Killuminati: 7 Day Theory”, which is a classic…

      • 84stickupkid

        Ok man, but I hope you ain’t sayin Johnny J was a nobody producer…the man is a LEGEND…RIP. The producers on Makaveli were great, sure they was no RZA but the album had the darkest feeling I ever heard Pac rhyme on. But most def, Pac had that fire to make something special.

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        Johnny J had skills, but what I’m saying is that Pac made everybody great…

      • 84stickupkid

        Agreed

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        what classic albums Johnny J have outside of working with Pac?

      • HEISENBERG

        Yup but u knew about jonny j because of pac….same with all the producers he worked with… With most rappers it’s the other way round

    • Pac had the backing of Quincy Jones, QD3 and many others including Dr.Dre.

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        Name some songs Quincy Jones produced for Pac…

    • HEISENBERG

      You know your shit…Goat!! Period.

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        THX HOMIE

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  • David Gonz

    JAY Z AINT SHIT. HE RAN FROM EVERY WESTCOAST BEEF HE HAD PAC NEVER RAN HE STOOD LIEK A MAN IN THE FACE OF ADVERSARIES AND WASNT ARFRAID TO MENTION THEM ON WAZ LIKE THIS NIGGA JAY Z BITCHASS

    • Cereal Killa

      2pac didn’t cross the threshold in to adulthood for “standing like a man” I highly doubt 2pac would’ve reacted the same at 25 compared to 30 or 40

      • David Gonz

        JAY Z HAD TO WAIT TO MAKE SURE PAC WAS DEAD BEFORE HE COULD DO ANYTHING IN RAP BRO. HE WAS A FORGOTTEN HYPE MAN.

    • Black Jay

      Jay Z got Beyonce and mad loot. Tupac is got shot and died. Who do you really think is winning?

      • David Gonz

        HE PAID FOR HER THO LIKE A BITCH

      • Black Jay

        Show me one dude that didn’t pay for their chick and I’ll show you a lying motherf*cker. We all pay. Like it or not.

      • wickedjones

        Aint no such thing as free pu$$y.

  • ImFred ImRico

    Alexander McQueen is dead. you mean Steve McQueen.

  • Brindle

    where’s the video of Jayo Felony breaking Jay Z’s nose? I know someone got it on Beta or VHS

  • R.D. Bone

    yeah Kanye compares himself to greatness–we however compare him to the guy in the psych ward who thinks he is Napoleon or the homeless dude who thinks he is Howard Hughes-and is more commonly referred to as the GAY FISH-and what is the big f-ing deal with Tupac-get over it-if ya’ll loved him sooo f-ing much then why did you f-ing kill him?? whitey didn’t do that-rap these days isn’t any different than poptard trash that’s why Jay-Z and the over rated stripper poptard flesh puppet make such a great couple

  • TruthHurts

    Personally I can appreciate Carter’s hustle, but wasn’t one of Pac’s last words on record “Fu#$k Jay Z”?

    • 84stickupkid

      Great point man, 2 Pac was voice of the streetz, JZ is the voice of a SELLOUT.

      • Black Jay

        True. Tupac WAS the voice of the streets. But he’s dead now. The way I was raised, you earn more points by living past the age of 40. Not by getting killed before the age of 40. I’m not ashamed to say I would much rather have a son similar to Jigga than a dead son like Tupac. And that’s some real sh*t.

      • 84stickupkid

        Tupac and Thug Life LIVES FOREVER in the streetz. JZ gonna die 2 1 day and he can go to his grave knowing he promoted the Illuminati. That’s the REALEST shit.

      • Black Jay

        N*gga that has to be the most dumb sh*t I ever read from you. So do you prefer your kids to be on some THUG LIFE sh*t???? I have a child and if my son ever came home talking that ignorant sh*t I would whip his f*cking ass. That stuff ain’t nothing to glorify. Everyone will die so you’re not saying anything new there. But I’ll be damned if I let my kid’s mind get poisoned with that dumb sh*t. The streets are not a place to glorify or a culture to worship. People that do or either dumb and probably aren’t from the street to begin with, or have no good positive role models. When it comes to my child, n*gga f*ck the street!

      • 84stickupkid

        But you would allow your kid to follow JZ ? This is a quote from Kanye’s Monster- ”I kill a block, I murder avenues, rape and pillage a village, women and children”. How are they acceptable for an adult let alone a child to listen to? and is this your version of a positive role model?

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        #REALRAP

      • 84stickupkid

        Dude refuses to answer my queston, he duckin me now. ”N-gga this, n-gga that, real talk, whoopin ass” but he can’t give a simple yes or no…

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        round here, that’s what we call “BUCKDANCING”…

      • 84stickupkid

        maybe he’s a troll?

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        it wouldn’t surprise me…

      • 84stickupkid

        He’s backed up from multiple questions I’ve asked him and comes across exactly like Kanye…I wonder if it’s him?

      • STRONGEST LEADER SINCE PAC

        LLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLL!!!!!!

      • Black Jay

        Keep wondering….. You can call me whatever you want. My skin ain’t thin. It don’t change a thing. You still hating. Jay still winning.

      • 84stickupkid

        Answer my question DIRECTLY with a YES or NO answer…

      • Black Jay

        Then again, elevating Tupac to God-like status on Martin Luther King Jr. day is your idea of Black History.

        I roll with Chris Rock on this one.

        “Martin Luther King was assassinated. Malcolm X was assassinated. Biggie and Tupac? Them 2 N*ggas got shot.”

      • 84stickupkid

        He wasn’t serious when he said that…it’s comedy…ha ha…joke joke…do you even know what that is? YES OR NO.

      • Black Jay

        Maybe… Or maybe I’m too smart for your buffoonery.

      • 84stickupkid

        Another indirect answer…maybe how about yes or no, if you want to MTFU?

      • Black Jay

        Round here, I have my opinion and you have yours.

      • Black Jay

        You got my answer two days ago. I’m not continuously litigating.

        And if you’re trying to question my intellect, do yourself a favor, don’t. I am highly educated and proud of it. Just because I use a certain slang, don’t take it for ignorance. Cause I can definitely more than hold my own against your mind. Judging from your Illuminati talk and your fly saucers routine that’s not even a little bit hard to do.

      • 84stickupkid

        You sidestepped it like you sidesteppin now, ok keep duckin my questions…ure good at that…

      • Black Jay

        Did I say I let my kid listen to or follow Jay Z? What school did you go to? Pay attention. I said I would much rather have a son that was similar to Jay Z than a dead son like Tupac. Nothing in what I wrote indicates that I am teaching my child any of that hip hop buffoonery. Cause at the end of the day, Tupac and Jigga come from the same poisoned tree. Like it or not, it’s fact.
        You talking all of that Thug Life crap is a prime example of this Tupac stupidity. That stuff ain’t nothing to glorify. Especially for a child. It’s called parenting dummy.

      • 84stickupkid

        Stop answering a question with a question. Keep talkin garbage man, youve been defending JZ like your life depended on it…and you refuse to answer my questions directly so GTFO.

      • Sy

        5 mics

      • 84stickupkid

        Source fell off dude, I thought u knew…

      • Opposite Of Everyone

        word, people forget Pac went to drama school…

      • LD51

        Sorry brother that’s not “some real sh*t” at all. I’d rather my child die as a man then to live out his life destroying the morality, the pride (in self and community), and legacy that not only myself, but my father, grandmother and my entire bloodline has died to manifest.

      • Nick Cyrus

        1. Tupac died with $50k to his name

        2. He signed with Suge because Suge got him out of jail, he literally had to sign the contract from his cell. He fired the lawyer and was in the process of realizing his dream when he was killed by an unknown assailant at the age of 25. At the age of 25 Malcom X was a convicted felon who hadn’t even changed his name yet. At the age of 25 Jay-Z hadn’t even released an album yet. Suge controlled every aspect of the financial operation, as well as a majority of the marketing decisions behind death row.

        3. Tupacs said his depiction of the gangster lifestyle was used as a way to reach those who saw no alternative. He lived many different lifestyles and had a very broad perspective that explored the range of human emotion like no other. T.H.U.G. L.I.F.E. stood for the hate you gave you little infants fucks everyone. You could compare him to Van Gogh, Vrubel, or Picasso in that regard. (Imagine if he had lived as long as Picasso though) but I believe he had a political influence as well, in ways that Jay-Z and Kanye West never will.

        3. I read your earlier comments, many great figures who’s legacy will far endure Jay-Z’s have been killed by ‘suckas’ including Jesus Christ, now I’m not saying Tupac is jesus or even close, just an incredible artist who had the ability to be quite a political figure.. I have no idea what point you were trying to prove there.

        I suggest you do your research before you go out of your way to discredit someone. I also suggest you stop being guided by your ego and being so shortsighted..

      • $18916246

        STOP HATING!….”DENIGGAFY” yourself!

  • Kevin Anthony

    hmm..try this. Kevin Anthony-21 on soundcloud

  • drac215

    “Yall respected tupac,tupac respected me”(KRS1)!!! Before “some” of yall make this a tupac memorial, you have to realize everyone models themselves after someone. If yall love pac then look up the BlackPanthers or oldschool hiphop(he followed these two) because they both stood for something. But even better, find Christ he’ll change ya life like no other!!! Peace

    • Opposite Of Everyone

      Christ?? WTF? This ain’t the Bronze Age !

    • Opposite Of Everyone

      Christ?? WTF?? This ain’t the Bronze Age !!

    • ItGoesDownINtheDM

      def!!

    • trapstar3

      exactly everybody copies somebody to make it common fuckin sense

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  • 84stickupkid

    I’ma speak on this…how f–kin desperate are they ridin off Pac’s legacy? 2 Pac wouldn’t be caught dead ridin with servants of the ILLUMINATI. Further evidence of dumbing down today’s Hip Hop generation.

    • ItGoesDownINtheDM

      2pac fathered both of those dudes its only right thier dialog in some way shape or form would eventually refer to 2pac … but thats most artist post 1993

      • 84stickupkid

        If anybody fathered JZ’s style it was Jaz-O(if u know who that is). In all fairness JZ and B.I.G have BITTEN elements of 2 Pac and they doing the same now tryin to claim they are a product of his legacy. When they know if Pac suspected any foul shit bout them zaggin, he would at get at em, that’s the way he was.

      • ItGoesDownINtheDM

        pac would def get @ them but to think jayz didnt study 2pac or somewhat idolized him while trying to make his run into the game is crazy …. everyone that listen to rap since pac went solo was a fan … pac only lost fans when he started dissing rappers and even then folks were still fans but folks was just playing sides ….. @ the end of the day every hip hopper f*cks with pac even PUFFY !! and every mofo that 2pac dissed !! PRODIGY included … and of course i know who jazo is last time we seen him he was riding the train on instagram LOL …….. nah salute to the OG ……

      • 84stickupkid

        Man, I was listenin to 2 Pac in 91 when he was DU and I still listen to 2 Pac today. Out of the rappers he dissed in 96 2 stand out. Diddy and JZ. I look at them now and I understand why he dis the fuk outta them. As far as him losing fans, he’s the most popular rapper dead or alive because he spoke from his heart and he spoke for the GHETTO. Bein voice of the ghetto was his legacy and Kanye and JZ don’t speak for the ghetto. What they made it big so 2 Pac would be proud? They made millions so Pac would be proud? The Rocawear brand promoting the Illuminati? JZ rappin bout raping and pillaging? The bizarre imagery in Kanye’s video Monster? If Pac was alive he’d be DESTROYIN these fools KILLUMINATI style. What they have become and the image they send the youth, Pac would not have been proud of so they should stop usin the man’s name in vain.

  • skidrowent

    man, Jay takin Big dream, not Pac

    • David Gonz

      jay takin anything he can from both of them buz hes a BYTER

    • ItGoesDownINtheDM

      plus i wouldnt consider jayz a thug cause he sold drugs LOL … but by tupacs definition he def is a thug and so is kanye ……. any1 who came from small beginnings and rose to major heights is what tupac considered a thug

      • trapstar3

        not even close buddy u obviously never listened tupac

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  • Rufus Buck

    AHH are so unaware of their own culture that those nignoramuses don’t even realise that Alexander McQueen did not direct 12 Years A Slave… unless a serious reincarnation incident has taken place that I am not aware of.

    AHH you should be ashamed of the sheer amount of L’s you ingest on a daily basis.

  • ihatefaggots

    These faggots love comparing there self to tupac, kanye west is a faggot.

    • LD51

      I hate that word but hey when it fits…

  • Ryan

    I can’t stand how these gay ass rappers wanna talk about Tupac as if he was alive he would be rocking with them…NO he wouldn’t. He hated Jay-z and all of the Illuminati puppets back in the day and he was fighting for hip hop and for the people who can relate to him. It’s so funny if you go from a 2pac track to any track of today it just doesn’t sound right. The state of this hip pop is gross. KILLUMINATI Bitches..Makaveli the Don

    • ItGoesDownINtheDM

      tupac would of messed with all the artist .. he was a musician first … dont forget before the beef he was friends with all of those dude prior …. 2pac is a hip hopper firsst

    • trapstar3

      I cant stand these gay ass nobodys who keep talkin bout dumb ass illuminati

    • LD51

      Well said. It’s bs like this that causes our greats, like Madlib, to have a standing order to torch his entire catalog when he dies. I can’t stand these postmortem acts of moral turpitude!!!

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  • LD51

    Can someone please get some defibrillator paddles ready for me. I can’t take too much more of this bullsh#t…It seriously hurts my soul to hear this level of ignorance. I guess B.O.B is Huey Newton and Beyonce is Angela Davis. Lord please help us.

  • Eag

    Put the right artist in the right places and you wont have to deal with people like this…its a new era and the fans control who hot.. support the real