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Joe Budden Explains Why He Dropped The Mic During Total Slaughter Battle With Hollow Da Don + MORE

(AllHipHop News) Winners never quit, quitters never win and rappers never like to get booed. Yesterday (July 15th) Joe Budden addressed the performance of himself and Hollow Da Don during their Total Slaughter battle, explained why he dropped the mic at the end of the battle and more.

The Hollow Da Don vs Joe Budden rap battle surprisingly ended with Budden being peppered with a chorus of boos from the fan and the veteran Jersey rapper paused his final verse and dropped the mic. According to Budden during a recent interview with Angry Fans Radio, he was doing what he feels rappers have always done:

It didn’t get to me mentally at all, which is the thing,” he added. “In my profession, you don’t rap over boos. It’s like Rapper 101 to know that if you at a show and niggas is booing, ‘Ya’ll, go ahead and boo. I got paid already.’ I’m either gonna wait for ya’ll to stop or I’m getting the fuck outta here.

Budden also placed some of the blame on his premature stoppage on the subpar sound quality of the microphones him and Hollow were using before admitting that “in battle rap, it’s different. You gotta deal with it. You gotta rap over it. You can’t let it look like it is affecting you.” Budden graded the battle as “underwhelming” due to the mic issues. Joe also addressed a criticism he faced following the battle that his rhymes sounded as if they were written to a beat and not the free-flowing form normally employed by modern day battle rappers:

I wasn’t writing rhymes to beats at al. But, because I’m a professional rapper, it sounded like that. It sounded like there was a beat there.

Check out Joe Budden’s full interview below:

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  • I_AM_Houston

    Nah guy you wrote to a beat. Mook etc didnt. You can tell the difference.

    • Arrie Mental Woodard

      it doesnt matter if he wrote to beat or not, and truthfully nobody knows. it still comes down to bars.

      • ska

        ..yeah, and the bars sucked. Again why is eveybody always giving him the benefit of the doubt when it’s obvious that he lost. Hollow’s subpar performance was enough to kill Joe 3-0

      • Retired Professional Wrestler

        Most ppl say Joe won. You mad?

      • ska

        well all the judges said otherwise…they probably mad too if they’re reading you now, right?

      • 5% Hov

        Who – ,….??? Where – name one person in Media that is saying that??

  • Phatt Killah

    The whole battle was wack to me. Neither one of them showed up

    • ska

      true the battle was way too soft.. yet it is obvious that Joey ain’t built for this modern battle scene

      • Retired Professional Wrestler

        See you exposing how gay you are for Hollow bitch boy

      • ska

        whooo radical there…

  • STFUUIgnants

    What tf wrong with sounding like it was over a beat….is having rhythm “too old school” & lame now? lmafo

    • ska

      No that is fine, but by doing so he ended up being super slow in his delivery, which bored the crowd and they booed him…he got pissed off so drop the mic…and you call this a battle MC??

      • STFUUIgnants

        that’s just HIS delivery. If beats were usedI think it would get the crowd involved more emotionally. Flow is such a big part of rhyming, why take it away? That should be a part of the skillset of battling imo. Pretty soon its just going to be snap contest.

      • ska

        Agree on a record. But this wasn’t a recording session, it’s a battle. You’ve got 3min per round to lyrically attack your opponent. And if you are very slow, you don’t damage much. That is a big reason as to why he lost early on..

      • STFUUIgnants

        but traditionally tracks were used.

      • ska

        Yes true (cf 8th Mile) but it is diff these days..I don’t make the rules but that’s how it is today, so you’ve got to adapt if you step to the ring..

      • 5% Hov

        8 mile is a movie…

      • 5% Hov

        actually they weren’t – most battles have always been acapella or beat box….

      • Retired Professional Wrestler

        You extra gay for Hollow

    • ska

      Also I felt the venue was crappy, big and all but no raw interactions with the crowd etc too much of a “light, camera, action..” feel to it

  • Markus

    As a musician, as an artist and as a rapper, Joe Budden is not even the 50th best rapper of all time.

    • word is yours

      agreed all the real goats had tracks for every occasion joey only make music for niggas on suicide watch then he run around yelling like he a lyrical genius meanwhile all his shit one dimensional

      • Ipullcards

        Ya going real hard. Yea he’s an asshole yea he beat a beautiful chick but Jory’s nice and hallow didn’t win by that big of a margin to marginalized joeys skills.. He’s been in the game for a min. I’m not a hidden fan, but he has bars! Idc what u say or how much u dislike him, the kid can rap!

      • ska

        I feel peeps are trippin over tha guy. He’s OK but nowhere the lyrical genius you guys claim. Even the lyrics (forget the delivery) during this battle were weak

      • DDot

        @disqus_vNkoe3ViWe:disqus, you missed the point. You are judging his lyrical skills over a rap battle. Take time to listen to his work: Loose Quarter, Mood Musik 4, etc.

      • ska

        @DDot sorry but you are missing the point. Everybody brings the “lyrical genius” argument here where in fact, if we analyse and judge his performance against Hollow, on all fronts (lyrics, delivery, stage performance) he sucked. Which is why he obviously lost 3-0

      • DDot

        @ska, let me break this down. The group known as ‘Everybody’ is referring to Joe Budden in the big picture, his career. While the performance can be considered subpar, unlike Hollow he has Albums and Mixtapes to really judge and gain a picture of him. The thing with battle rappers is they often suck on their albums, ie Cassidy and is also the reason why Hollow can be a great battle rapper but not a lyrical genius. So think big picture, how do you judge a lifetime of work(lyrical genius) in a single moment? Thats like judging someone like Nas based on Oochi Wallie.

      • ska

        Look I’m not judging his lifetime work here, I’m judging his performance during this battle. He had 3 rounds just like Hollow. Joey’s performance was weak. He had poor bars, a poor delivery and his interaction with the crowd/venue was pathetic. He lost his cool during the 3rd round and could barely remember his bars and felt extremely frustrated, to the point of dropping the mic. He obviously lost that battle and it is clear to me that he’s not made for this modern battle scene. Fair and square. The guy can come with all the excuses in the world during interviews but he got murdered. Why arguing over this when it’s so obvious.

      • DDot

        @ska, I’m arguing about the statement lyrical genius and joe budden career as a whole, you are arguing over the battle. So you when say “arguing over this” we are arguing over completely different things. In fact you are arguing all over this thread, lol. ska…Battle Commenter Champ! Round 3000!

      • ska

        Well the whole “lyrical genius” argument was brought elsewhere by somebody else. If he has amazing bars, he didnt make this evident during his battle for sure.

        As for the few records i heard from him, they did not make me feel he was a lyrical genius either, but that is another debate for another day I guess

      • Bruh u said the few records…go check bruh pedigree before u down him…I ain’t the biggest budden fan but that dude is nice man…

      • 5% Hov

        Nigga Please Joe iss an BELOW AVERAGE RAPPER FOH

        Genius – Mood Musik?? You Emo’s crack me up.

      • ska

        Battle Commenter Champ! Thanks for the compliment.

        There needs to be someone stating the obvious on this thread 😉

      • Get em dog

      • word is yours

        im not denying joe has bars i just dont think he on the level that he wants me to put him at this nigga be acting like he invented this rap shit himself

      • Ipullcards

        Yea he’s a d1ck! I agree but you have to be really confident in this business.. But he could tone it down a lot.

      • ska

        agree with world_is_yours here lol

    • J Dott

      If you actually listened to Joe Budden which im sure you dont because you wouldnt have even wrote that, but those of us that know good music and a good Artist when they hear one knows that Joe Budden is actually one of the greatest Artists Ever! He’s actually been my favorite artist ever since Mood Muzik 2 came out. If you go back and give it a listen, you may take down that coment! Those of us that can relate to what he spits and the artistry and picture he paints in his music cant get enough of his music! I feel like an idiot even writing this to a person who obviously knows nothing about music… Probably was playing a Young Thug song while you were writing that comment smh!!

      • Markus

        Joe Budden is actually one of the greatest artists ever? Joe is that you bigging yourself up again? We can’t have a discussion about Joe Budden if that’s your actual feeling about him. Surprising but that’s your opinion and you’re welcome to it. But that comment tho.

      • Guillaume Pilon

        stop hating

        the guy is a lyrical genius

      • ska

        the guy’s whack. Where was the genius during this battle?? he got murdered quite simply..

      • rocnation30

        THEIR IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BATTLE RAPPER AND A ACTUAL RAPPER…THE BATTLE RAPPER WILL NEVER BE SUCCESSFUL OR HE WILL NEVER SEE A BIG DEAL FROM INTERSCOPE… HE WILL ALWAYS JUST BE A STREET LEGEND FOR A WEEKS UNTIL THE NEXT BATTLE RAPPER TAKES HIS PLACE….JOE BUDDENS IS A RAPPER WITH BARS….

      • ska

        well as a rapper he’s OKish imo, as a battle rapper he’s weak (evidenced here a few days ago by how he lost fair n square 3-0). Also, he’s the one that stepped up to the ring, so the minute you do that you accept the rules…and he got murdered

      • 5% Hov

        PREACH

      • therealjjohnson

        So to be an “actual rapper” you have to either A) be Successful or B) sign to interscope?

        Is there anything else that would classify someone as an “actual rapper” ?

      • rocnation30

        LET ME BREAK IT DOWN FOR U IN LAMENS..SINCE THEM LINES WENT OVER YA HEAD…HALLOW THE DON IS A BATTLE RAPPER WHO WILL ONLY BE LISTENED TO BY CATS LIKE U , HE WILL NEVER SEE A MAJOR , BECAUSE HE CANNOT MAKE SONGS PERIOD…..I WILL NEVER PURCHASE A HALLOW DA DON RECORD UNLESS THAT SHIT IS FOR FREE….BUT I WILL COP A MOOD MUZIK ALBUM, OR A SLAUGHTERHOUSE RECORD…SMFH

      • therealjjohnson

        The lines did not go over my head. I understood very clearly. I think you just gave a very poor definition of what a “actual rapper” is. My question was really put there to highlight that fact.

        When speaking about an “actual rapper” you gave very superficial qualifications. If you only rap over beats and make songs then it doesn’t matter if you are popular, signed, successful etc…there will still be fundamental differences between that craft and the craft of “battle rap”. I think this is the point you were trying to make. Im just pointing out it has nothing to do with being successful or being signed, and everything to do with it being a different act. I compare it to driving a stick shift vs a manual. Both are driving. But one takes a bit more time and expertise.

      • rocnation30

        SO MY QUESTION TO U IS WHO OR WHAT DETERMINES IF U ARE A PROFESSIONAL RAPPER OR NOT??/ I SAY ANYBODY CAN SAY THEY ARE A RAPPER AT THE END OF THE DAY…AN NO MATTER HOW U PUT IT OR TAKE IT ONCE AN ARTIST BECOMES SIGNED THEN HE BECOMES A RAPPER….NOT JUST EYYY A rapper(NOTICE THE LOWERCASE)… THEIR IS ALWAYS A CERTAIN LEVEL TO EVERYTHING WHERE U CAN ACTUALLY SAY U ARE A RAPPER AND THAT MEANS GETTING THAT DEAL…LIKE ROCNATION, INTERSCOPE, OR OTHERWISE U ARE JUST LIKE THE NEXT MAN HOPING AND WISHIN…IF I CHOSE TO RAP OR CHOSE RAP AS MY PROFESSION MY GOAL WOULD BE TO GET SIGNED AND BECOME FAMOUS AN SELL A SHIT LOAD A RECORDS…ANYBODY NOT GOIN INTO HIPHOP THAT WAY IS FUCKIN STUPID………

      • JS1

        Stick and manual is the same thing -__-

      • therealjjohnson

        Damn it man. Lmao. I mean stick shift and automatic.

      • Nice way to put it

      • therealjjohnson

        I dont think either one of them did good enough to “murder” the other in the battle. You can say Hollow won. I understand how you could come up with that result. But to say he murdered him is a reach. Similar to Joe being one of the best ever.

      • ska

        OK fair enough. To me though, Hollow was clearly better and more low key (albeit his performance was subpar)

      • Now that’s real

      • Markus

        His track record says different.

      • I ain’t ever had a problem wit none of ya comments but how many dudes u know that was dope that didn’t get on mainstream wise? I ain’t the biggest Joe budden fan but dude can Def spit it better than most…I’m tryna be unbiased but dude ain’t nowhere near the bottom of the totem.

      • Markus

        Never said he was at the bottom or that he wasn’t talented lyrically but as far as being a musical artist, what has he done past Pump It Up that has been even equally as successful?

    • rocnation30

      HUH??? NAME 50…

      • Shid naming 25 would be tough…

      • 5% Hov

        Pick any 50 rappers…. furthermore

        Name 10 he’s better than LOL

    • On eythang u lying that dude and his crew got bars that a lot of rap cats don’t want no parts of….

  • The Legendary Troll

    BLAH BLAH You lost because of your light skin nigga sensitivity. Get over it and do better next time

    “‘Ya’ll, go ahead and boo. I got paid already.’ I’m either gonna wait for ya’ll to stop or I’m getting the f*ck outta here.”

    Not in a rap battle nigga. Thats what he doesnt get. This isnt a song performance.

    • IceBergSlim

      Lmao..Lmao….a song performance

  • Guillaume Pilon

    joe is in my top 5 doa

    • rocnation30

      I CAN RESPECT THAT

    • 5% Hov

      HOW

  • ska

    Well he got booed coz he SUCKED noodles!! the guy was whack and Hollow completely murdered him.

    • rocnation30

      WHAT FUCKIN BATTLE U WATCHED??? HALLOW FUCKIN SUCKED AS WELL HE EVEN SAID IT HIMSELF…

      • ska

        yes.. and he still murdered him..he won 3-0..no discussion here really

      • Retired Professional Wrestler

        He lost & you typing paragraphs lolololol

      • ska

        well go tell the judges 😉

      • ska

        notice how half of Joe’s bars were about him being wealthier than Hollow, he’s more famous etc.. just such a weak argument and one that clearly did not resonate with the crowd…3-0

      • STFUUIgnants

        But battle rappers bring up money all the time. Why would it be off limits to him? Its not like he’s Diddy or Jayz….he aint that damn rich.

      • ska

        yes but we all know that Hollow ain’t made it big, no major record deal etc. There would have been much better ways to attack Hollow by referencing quotes from old battle for exemple.

        Also, when you perform in front of the crowd that just paid to see you, the whole “I dont give a damn if i lose anyways coz i made 20Gs being here anyhow..” isn’t the best way to put the crowd in your pocket to start with..

      • STFUUIgnants

        ok I get that, but when Hollow brings up his lack of success since “pump it up”, he kind of opens that door tho

      • ska

        yeah but with the 20G thing he def didnt win the crowd…the pump it up was low, but it didnt offend the crowd in any ways whatsoever

      • Retired Professional Wrestler

        You a fan boy. Hollow lost three in a row lux tsu and budden

      • therealjjohnson

        200Gs

      • rocnation30

        BUT ITS BATTLE RAPPING ANYTHING GOES>>>> HE TALKED ABOUT JOE BEATING TAHIRY …AND HOW JOE IS OLD DOPE FEIND …..ANYTHING GOES …JUST SO HAPPEN HALLOW IS A BROKE BATTLE RAPPER THEY USUALLY ARE….OR THEY GET MONEY THRU THE STREETS AN WE KNOW HOW THAT GOES

    • Retired Professional Wrestler

      Nigga, I respected you at first comment then I see this. You a faggot fanboy of hollow. Hollow got killed 2 rounds in a row so save that gay shit boy. I even switched my avi to hollow for your bitch ass to read.

      • ska

        well he sucked noodles, to the point of the crowd booing him..

      • 5% Hov

        ” Hollow got killed 2 rounds in a row”

        WHEN??? WHAT DID YOU WACTH??? HOW????LOL

  • IceBergSlim

    I never cared for Joe Budden too much now he might come in number 49 out of the top 50 rappers

    • ska

      Agree..he’s not that much..this battle just proved it to the world

      • Retired Professional Wrestler

        He was beating Hollow then did that stupid shit. He got this lil nigga on Twitter asking for a battle with eminem

      • ska

        and why do you think he did “that stupid shit” by the way..?

      • 5% Hov

        Nigga he was beating hollow??

        HOW?? WHEN?? SAYS WHO???

    • U gotta give him more credit than top 50…him and them slaughterhouse cats ain’t nutn to fk wit..

      • 5% Hov

        How – I can name 49 rappers he not better than… so….

      • Please do and Trinidad james bet not be on ya list…..lmao I gotta see this list…I promise I will keep it real if u can name 50 cats lyrically better…..understand u said Fifty!

      • 5% Hov

        Really so – Trindad James… thats the best u could think off?

        Wow. I guess these niggas never heard Kool G Rap…

      • U already know I know bout g rap but where that top 50 list tho? That sht hard ain’t it?

  • I was 13 when ‘Pump it up’ came out… Can I get a up vote for feeling old?

    • I gave u one for keeping it trill

  • t1m3b0mb

    who cares budden got paid while people paid to boo at least he wasn’t running around in a spawn outfit trying to convince people he’s crazy that’s was a whole diff level of dumb

  • majesticking

    Dudes need to battle to beats, then we’ll see who can really Mc. and who cant. Part of Mcing is having a flow and being able to rhyme to beats and staying on beat, hell we had to rhyme to whatever beat was on soul music club hip hop it didn’t matter an Mc. should sound like another instrument on the track. Let your voice and flow compliment the track and let the track compliment your voice and flow.

    • IronMan 💥💥🔫

      It’s not battle rap if your using a beat stupid.

      • why the hell not? when we used to battle they would drop a beat and we would battle to it just like they did in 8 mile…

      • 4 sho…any cat can take 30 seconds to spit a bar on that acapella sht…u can literally see a cat thinkn of his next lines the way they do it nowadays…

      • Ipullcards

        I dont know wtf u talking about. Yea last few years the scene switched to acapella because dudes couldn’t keep up to the beat! It’s easy to speak out loud, it’s a bit more difficult to rap over a beat and stay coherent off the top! Facts

      • IronMan 💥💥🔫

        Since battle rap started it’s been nothing but acapella. lions den. YouTube it. No beat just niggas one the street or in stores goin ham. Idk what you niggas is talking about.

      • Taihair Djehuty

        Dude, you making no sense. Cats used to battle over beats all the time. Whether it was a beat coming through the speakers, or someone making a on the desk with the hands. Beats and battle raps have gone hand in hand for decades

      • IronMan 💥💥🔫

        Idk about all that’s. From what I remember about battle rap when I was coming up was it wasn’t a beat. Idk how old you niggas are but I’m not trying to go back to the 70s and 80s.

      • Man u can’t explain sht to these NEW rap niggaz.

      • IronMan 💥💥🔫

        I’m 25 nigga…Fuck r u talking about

      • Exactly new rap nigga….u lil young boys be on sum slow dumb sht…I ain’t even tryna be funny…so if u 25 I know u rocking skinnies. ..opening of ya pants leg couldn’t even fathom covering ya shoe if it wanted to huh? Keep it real, am I lying? If u had to look down u lost lil bruh.

      • IronMan 💥💥🔫

        I’m a ny nigga. Niggas don’t wear skinnys faggot

      • majesticking

        Don’t know where your from. you must be a 2000 or 90’s baby.

      • IronMan 💥💥🔫

        Ny 89 nigga

      • Close enough fool….Lmao…u think battle rap started in 03….All bs aside u might wanna leave this sht alone young man.

      • Yeah, he missed all that!

      • IronMan 💥💥🔫

        Yea I am gonna leave it alone. I’m tired of talking to you old ass niggas

      • majesticking

        My album came out the year you were born I can’t expect you to know. However it’s peace study the History my man. Peace!

      • IronMan 💥💥🔫

        I’m supposed to believe you a rapper lmao blogging online about some irrelevant bullshit. Funny ass old men these days smh

      • majesticking

        It must not be that irrelevant you responded, furthermore no i’m not a rapper I’m an MC. big difference. Again learn the History if you love the culture.

      • IronMan 💥💥🔫

        Nigga you ain’t shit. I bet you don’t have a job. 10-15 years possibly 20 years older than me and still posting comments on a website. Something wrong with all you old niggas. This ain’t the 80s no more.

      • IronMan 💥💥🔫

        For the last few years nigga? For the last decade since 03 niggas been straight acapella

      • Ipullcards

        Ok so? Niggaz been rapping free styling before since 83′.. What are u saying?

      • IronMan 💥💥🔫

        I said it already nigga

      • majesticking

        For real watch the movie wild style.

    • “Can’t be caught off guard with fast tracks or soft tracks, @$$ cracks get waxed to the max. MC’s pack raps for all tracks, indigenous cultures, Asians, Whites & Blacks, never missed it, the linguistics, who am I? The MC” KRS One – The MC
      /watch?v=tpqR5T3maik

      • IronMan 💥💥🔫

        That’s to old for me Mr Senior Sir

      • Yeah, that’s from the Golden era, you’re blessed if you were there.

      • Kris that dude….I used to hear that loves gonna get u and that was my favorite sht…..my ol dude used to hustle in the 80s and 90s racks stacked to the ceiling in the closet, it reminded me so much…

      • That ‘chet still hits today!

  • Joe Buddens sucks–everything he touches is wack….He is just not that dude.

    • Tahiry didn’t look wack to me….bruh keep a bad batch on all bs aside…he and his slaughterhouse comrades gotta be the most underrated I have ever seen…The whole crew certified beasts

      • 5% Hov

        WtF has Thiary (who is wack) got to do with this rapp shit.

        Who your smashing is not relevant.

      • She said ‘everything the brother touches is wack right?

      • Iheart

        Tahiry is not all that. Please, there are better looking broads out there.

      • Of course there are my dude, there are broads that look better than the woman or man you are involved with too….so what u saying? I didn’t say she was all that but I’ll put money you would play pole position if she threw it at u…keep that sht real holmes…

      • Iheart

        I am replying to the response that Tahiry is a bad bitch, she is clearly not, i do not even call women bitches as I am a women myself, a women who is beautiful would be Aliyah, gabrielle union, the list goes on, Tahiry only has breasts and bum, not much is going on when it comes to the face. If your going to make statements like ” she is a bad bitch’ please ensure that she has the whole package.

  • Frank

    You leave wit my money and I’m tryna see you walking out the back. Why would you do such a thing?

    • Lmao I know that’s right bruh

  • Polo

    You were wack and nigga you aint that big to expect people to not boo you.The whole Total Slaughter event was shit,ya’ll got money but no heart to set up a real battle rap event,please leave this buiness to URL,KOTD,GW and UW there professionals.

  • DirkDigg1er

    There is a blueprint to battle rap and Hollow brought it up in an interview. You can’t bodybag an opponent and get great replay value. Hollow went easy on him, and for a good reason, it may adopt more people who weren’t interested in battle rap. Debatable battles lure more victims.

    • 5% Hov

      True taalk

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  • 5% Hov

    Joe been a lame. Still a lame.

    No where in life I have meet a Joe Budden fan. U fools saying dude was nice/or would have won… please post ONE BAR that Joey spit that was dope….

    Dude is super trash. As rapper and Battler.

  • Phatt Killah

    Besides Pump it up, his whole first album was dope and so was his mood music joints

  • Phatt Killah

    I used to feel the same way Ebro does about not having music to the battle. Sh*t grew on me though

  • hitman619

    Y’all sleeping on Joe, Padded Room was Fire!