(AllHipHop News) Damon Dash stopped by Sway In The Morning to talk about numerous topics connected to the Roc-A-Fella Records co-founder. The interview included Dame talking about former Roc affiliates Jay Z and Kanye West, his lawsuit against director Lee Daniels, the social media back-and-forth with Dipset member Jim Jones, and more.
On lawsuit against Lee Daniels:
It’s about being paid. I put up $2 million. He asked me to do The Woodsman, and I put the money up… Me being perceived as this “urban” dude and [with movie executive] Harvey Weinstein pissing me off – I was like, “I want some of that money too”…
Lee Daniels came to me with a good script. Kevin Bacon was attached to it, and I had some paper at the time. He hit me with, “Black people don’t stick together.”
So I put the money up. We got our money back, but then he wanted to invest in his first directing [job with] Shadowboxer. It cost like $10 million, and I said, “Lee, I believed in the other script. This is my money to put into movies for my independence.”
He said, “I promise you’ll get your dough back.” Long story short, I didn’t get my money back. Then we made a deal where any other project he was on – until I get my money back – I would be on it. As soon as Precious hit, he just went missing on me…
I’m not having a fist fight with Lee Daniels over $2 million. But what are you doing to somebody over $2 million?
On working with Kanye West on new film venture:
Kanye’s become the most successful – as far as exposure goes – of all of us. And that’s what I saw in him so many years ago. Kanye has a point of view. He’s a dude that has a distinct way of doing things, and he stands behind it. He needs his own space…
What I needed from Kanye is just simply to do what I did for him – be an executive for me, do some David Geffen s**t. Use your exposure, the flavor that you have, and your point of view to co-sign some s**t. Walk me through the s**t like I walked you.
On Kanye going with Jay Z after the Roc-A-Fella split:
At the time, I had dropped Kanye to be honest. It was because of not agreeing with the way he was moving. That’s water under the bridge.
Then I gave him the opportunity like, “As a man, I signed you, so I’m gonna give you the opportunity. I’m not gonna walk away while you’re signed to Roc-A-Fella. If you want me to keep running your s**t I will.” I had already argued with him. I had already got at him like the old Dame Dash. We had already established we weren’t moving…
He chose to make the decision he felt was right for himself. That was it. For the last five, six years, it’s been nothing Kanye could do for me. I’m not playing the game he’s playing. I’m trying to figure out how to do things on my own…
He’s out looking for experience. He’s trying to do things bigger than what he’s done. He’s fulfilling his dream, fearlessly. He’s putting up his own dough as he makes it. He’s staying active. For the last six years, I’ve been running around the world looking for people that are looking to do things like I do it.
On issues with Jim Jones:
Jim is a creative that sometimes reacts in the moment. That’s what makes him creative. I’m not the kind of guy that looks at one thing that a person does and only concentrates on what that is as opposed to everything.
So I have to look at all the things that I’ve done with Jim and the things he’s done, and it outweighs those two emotional moments. But those emotional moments don’t reflect the way that I live and the way I react to things. That can be detrimental to the big picture. He’s the kind of brother that I’ll always love…
He gotta do what he gotta do. He just gotta do it over there. People can disagree, can have arguments, but when someone disrespects you, you gotta keep them over there…
For me to react to what he’s doing, would be me disrespecting the whole culture. It’s a bigger picture there, so I have nothing but love for Jim…
There’s not a common ground if it’s a different mentality. From where I’m from, you can never disrespect an OG. You can never disrespect any man, especially publicly.
On reconnecting with Jay Z:
Those moments – there were two. One was [Chaka Pilgrim’s] birthday. They were real adamant about me coming to her birthday, because I love Chaka like a little sister. I don’t have a beef with Jay. I never did. We just approach business different.
The other time was with my daughter. We’re gentleman. We’re men. We’ve done a lot. Just because you don’t agree with a man, because you’re Black doesn’t mean you gotta fight or argue. You just have a different perspective.
At this very moment – based on what I read in the paper. This is the one time that the paper did scare me, and I was like there has to be some truth to it. When I read about his affiliation with informants, that he’s in business with certain people. It’s tricky for me to say, but based on where I’m from, I can’t have nothing to do with that.
There’s paperwork. That part of it scares me, because I know [Kareem “Biggs” Burke] is in jail. I know Irv Gotti has been harassed for years over s**t he didn’t do. I know they’ve been f**king with me for years. So it just means I need to stay over here.
I love Jay, but let’s say I found out any of that s**t – I can’t f**k with him at all. Because that’s how I was raised. It ain’t no disrespect. I don’t know how anyone else was raised, but that’s it. There ain’t nothing else to talk about. It’s real serious for me…
That’s the only conversation I could have with him [to] move forward… I have no more opinions about it until I have a one-on-one with him.
Dame recently released his new digital film series Loisadas. Damon Dash Studios produced the project with Dame co-writing the script and directing the movie. Kanye served as executive producer.
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