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RZA Says Black Youth Should Dress Properly To Not Scare White Officers


(AllHipHop News) It was the tragic killing of Trayvon Martin that initially sparked the Black Lives Matter movement against racial profiling, police brutality, and racial inequality. The 17-year-old Florida native was killed by a neighborhood watch volunteer who believed Martin was dangerous, partially because the teen was wearing a hoodie in the rain.

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The idea of black Americans conducting themselves in a certain way in order to not scare white Americans has been a contentious topic for years. Some activists argue “respectability politics” is a form of victim blaming, because the focus should be on questioning the person that performed the violent act and not on the person that was harmed, especially in situations where the victim was unarmed and not committing a crime.

Others believe the actions, appearance, and history of the victim does affect the outcome in situations such as Martin’s death or incidents where police killed black citizens. From Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri to Sandra Bland in Waller County, Texas to Freddie Gray in Baltimore, Maryland, respectability politics has been brought up in nearly every case of law enforcement officers being involved in the death of unarmed African-Americans.

It appears Wu-Tang Clan member RZA is on the side of the argument that says appearance does play a part in white police officers assaulting black youth. RZA told Bloomberg:

When you think about some of the brothers who are being brutalized by the police, you also got to have them take a look, and us take a look, in the mirror, at the image we portray. If I’m a cop and every time I see a young black youth, whether I watch them on TV, movies, or just see them hanging out, and they’re not looking properly dressed, properly refined, you know, carrying himself, conducting himself proper hours of the day—things that a man does, you’re going to have a certain fear and stereotype of them. I tell my sons, I say, if you’re going somewhere, you don’t have to wear a hoodie–we live in New York, so a hoodie and all that is all good. But sometimes, you know, button up your shirt. Clean up. Look like a young man. You’re not a little kid, you know what I mean? I think that’s another big issue we gotta pay attention to. Is the image that we portray that could invoke a fear into a white officer, or any officer.

RZA also added, “Of course black lives matter. All lives matter. I stopped eating meat because their lives matter to me. I don’t think it’s necessary for us to grow a cow to kill it.”

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  • Savimbi

    Ghost and Rae my favorite Wu members anyways lol

    • Knickfan4life

      What does that even mean ?Ghostface thinks the same way

      • Savimbi

        then i’ll correct myself GZA and Rae are my favorite Wu members anyway, does that sound better?

      • Knickfan4life

        It makes no difference because wutang come from the Era when brothers wore suits and wallabies .Take a look at how big daddy Kane and rakim dress compared to how these rappers look nowadays. I don’t want white people or cops around me at all so they will have zero reason to stereotype me if they see me.

      • Savimbi

        And that was their styles as youths, PE wasn’t running around in suits, Eric Sermon wasn’t, neither was Nas and I can list countless others. Middle to high schoolers do not need to be pressured to conform as they are still growing and learning. A person’s sense of fashion doesn’t equate to whom they might be as a person IE, Bernie Maddof, was a wealthy business man, but come to find out, he was one of the biggest criminals as he swindled millions of folks out of their retirement…and I work a 9-5 and dress accordingly there, but i’m not finna put my timbs and fitted in the closet when i’m not dealing w/ work on weekends for fear of a cop shooting me, that’s completely giving away one of my basic rights as a human.

      • Knickfan4life

        Public enemy wore and wear color coordinate costumes consisting of raiders jackets, black Levis and hats.epmd wore the same color coordinate clothing .Nas started wearing suits as soon as he got money. You SHOULD conform because we fell off as a race.Martin Luther King and Malcolm x would slap the sh.t of how these gay skinny jeans and black Hoodie idiots are looking. And if you don’t want to dress a certain way then do not complain when yt is looking for a suspect with mascara, skinny jeans and a black hoodie.

      • Savimbi

        Yeah when he got older dude. Your issue is with Skinny Jean wearing dudes. not all kids are out there wearing skinny jeans man. Some of these kids like to have their Jordans, hooded ralph lauren and jeans. let em be. they shouldn’t have to conform, they’re kids!!!!

      • Knickfan4life

        If that is what they are wearing of course but we are talking about amerikkka don’t know if you are from here but whites are insecure in america. They find reasons my thing is give them one less reason like rza was saying to bother you.

      • Savimbi

        I’m not from here but I live here, and again there shouldn’t be a reason to appease white folks just because i’m black, I pay my taxes just like them and provide the income for these police officers, why shouldn’t they be held to the same “expectations” granted they do have prejudices but still.

      • Savimbi

        And frankly compared to my generation ( Tall Tees, extremely Baggy Jeans etc…) Kids dress a bit more conservative these days, boat shoes, fitted jeans, even skinnies etc…as a matter of fact, Europeans been wearing skinny jeans, sometimes a bit too extreme, but a cat wearing skinnies doesn’t make him gay…lol it’s looks very uncomfortable tho lol

      • Knickfan4life

        Not gay but I’m talking in general we have to pull our pants up and just do a bit better .

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        Justice has always been the realist out of the Clan and I would also add Ole Dirty as well…RZA must’ve been slacking on NGE lessons lately.

    • Casor_Greener

      HE is 100% right

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  • Knickfan4life

    But we celebrate “thuglife” 😉 it comes a time we do have to do better not even for whites for ourselves.screw what they think.

  • A.P. Millz-CT

    This is what happens when you give “Certain” black people money! He’s beginning to get out of touch! REally? It’s these black kids fault, b/c they aren’t wearing a damn suit? They should be shot in the street and stop & frisked b/c of a damn hoodie! I’ve lost respect for you RZA! Now, I predict he’ll be leaving his black wife for an Asian, or White Woman,.

    • W.E.B. Du Bois

      well said , he been in a coupla meetings with other races for movies or whatever , now he trying to make excuses for them

  • RichFromBX

    Makes sense when you think about…if you don’t want people to think you’re a thug or bangin’, don’t wear the uniform of a thug or banger.

    • Casor_Greener

      100% right

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        Really…a lot of house n!ggaz thought the same thing until massa threw that rope over the that plantation Oak tree branch because server was side eyeing a second to long.

      • Larry Sandwiches

        Take it to worldstar loser

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        To live and direct huh? You see it’s cute to keep trolling for some all of sudden uppity new found good Negro who got the blessings from the racist Zionist who run the entertainment industry…yeah that’s cool because you Cavemen can ride with that all day huh? However as soon as someone throw hardcore facts in the equation it’s go to the back of bus.

      • Larry Sandwiches

        Youre sayin dumb sh!t tho. Aint no hardcore facts. FOH

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        I see I’m debating with a 10 year old…Log Off Adolph.

      • Larry Sandwiches

        GO TO WORLDSTAR TROLL. Thats where your kind reside. Get the f–k outta here!

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        Neanderthal logic

      • Casor_Greener

        this isn’t the slavery era and nobody said it would stop all brutailty. but go ahead and keep “thugging” playboy. If you dont see where it leads by now, I don’t have time to deal with ya..

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        So a unarmed black person getting smoked by a pig is a thug yes or no?

      • Casor_Greener

        Now you’re just being silly. Nobody implied that was the case

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        Silly? You’re suggesting “thuggish” attire justified unarmed black people getting smoked by pigs.

      • Casor_Greener

        Where did I say justified? I agreed that dressing like a “thug” makes you more prone to being seen as one and therefore treated accordingly. Like Dave Chappelle said “why dress like a hoe if you aren’t one?”. IF you saw a white dude dressed like a Klan member, I’d bet you treat him like one too.

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        Honestly I’ll probably chuckle…as long as that a$$ Clown don’t invade my 3 feet he can express himself as he likes after all it is America lol.

      • Casor_Greener

        Unfortunately the police have to engage. I grew up in the south and dealt with real racism all my life. However, I dressed in polos and khakis, since I was 12 years old. Never sagged and wore hoodies and scarfs in my pocket or spoke ignorant and mouthed off to cops – even when they were wrong. I didn’t kiss their ass either. Never had a problem with the police. I see this violence happen to ignorant people OF ALL RACES – ALL THE TIME. I bet you weren’t blogging for that homeless white dude who got beaty to death or the white teen. DONT GET IT TWISTED. I know we are the primary target and we can’t change that mentality, but we can help ourselves

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        The first and only time I had a gun pointed at me was by pigs…I was 30yrs old, nine pigs to be exact. They said we fit the description of someone who didn’t pay a restaurant tab witch by the way was bs and we were wearing suits.

      • Casor_Greener

        That’s very unfortunate. Were you wearing a hoodie and sagging you might have gotten blasted

  • Elayorx El

    You know, I used to admire many a rap dudes coming up, and I figured out finally it was because these folks represented most, what life was really supposed to be about; true liberation. To now see one of the main representations of the “Tao” say it’s primarily on the victims, leaves me shuddering in a type of hopelessness that is going to be pretty difficult to shake. “It’s hard to lose a chosen one”-Sia

  • Papi Peligro

    wow. does this man deserve to be shot.

    • W.E.B. Du Bois

      stil not it Marquise – we want a side-by-side of twins Papi Peligro and Marquies Jackson

    • Larry Sandwiches

      Do you disagree that he looks like an a$$hole thug in that picture? Id say thats probaly not a good way to presmt yourself as a “man” in any culture.

      I do love that pic tho! Haha!
      WU-TANG FOREVER!!!

      • Elayorx El

        Just this comment right here reveals the internal war you seem to be having with yourself. If you love the pic, then do you not respect what the pic represents? You have to pick a side, stand on that, and forever be proud of that, no matter what others may try and convince you of.

      • Larry Sandwiches

        That picture is funny as hell and I love WU. Whats your point? Do you disagree that he looks like a thug in it? He’d scare the hell out of my grandma!

      • Elayorx El

        I love the pic as well. EVERYTHING it represents, in spite of what he may feel today. I saw a post on here that stated it’s the types in suits that one should beware of. My grandma would smile, give him a hug, and ask if he had a meal all day. C’mon fam.

      • Papi Peligro

        It’s america he has the right to look like whatever he wants. Marilyn Manson looks like an arsehole but nobody shooting him on a pull over.

      • Larry Sandwiches

        I agree with you. You didnt answer my question tho. I never ever said that the way someone dresses should get them shot either.

    • Casor_Greener

      I’d say he was more likely to get shot by cops than a brother with a turtleneck sweater. Which is the point idiot

      • Papi Peligro

        Nah just cause somebodyb makes a point doesn’t mean it’s right. You can look like whatever you want you still have rights as an American and that doesn’t justify shooting him. Trayvon hood didn’t justify him being marked as suspicious

      • Casor_Greener

        Did anybody say “dressing like a thug justifies you getting shot”. Stop ducking the argument at hand. If you dress like a “thug” or “criminal” you will most likely get treated like one. Regardless of whether or not it’s right or wrong.

  • TruthTalk

    This dude is dumb, they were lynching men in suits in the 50’s. People get money and older and forget how it was to be a teen.

    • Casor_Greener

      This aint the 50s

      • TruthTalk

        Of course, but the same shit is happenening

  • Markus

    Completely irresponsible and ignorant. Maybe he’s speaking from an adult position and doesn’t condone the saggy pants at the knee,hooded sweater look. That I would understand. But you absolutely cannot condemn an entire culture based on their garments,put them all in a box and label them one way. That’s basically understanding a pig deciding that because you’re not “properly dressed”,they have a right to detain arrest and in some unfortunate cases,kill you. Dead wrong,RZA.

    • Controversy Sells

      real shit. . . it dont matter what you wear, or what you drive for that matter. when i was 18 i had a range rover. . . i come from one of the wort neighborhoods in my city but they assumed i was a drug dealer because ive always driven nice vehicles. this guy her is just speaking out his ass and doesnt realize its not about the clothes. its more about the color of the skin because guess what. . . theres plenty of white poeple in the world who dress urban just like black folks who do NOT get harassed

      • Larry Sandwiches

        if i saw an escalade in a trailer park, id wonder where the meth lab was. Same thing.

    • W.E.B. Du Bois

      wrong , because of white’s life long love of copying us , theres more whites that dress like that than us

      • Markus

        So it’s wrong to disagree with him? You’re an ignorant asshole. Go fck yourself,Gary.

      • W.E.B. Du Bois

        your weezil race ass said the saggy pants hoody look , now you reminded of that , re-read my comment

      • Markus

        Why don’t you make your account public so I can see how the non weezil himself carries himself? You know why you hide? Because you’re a sellout,double agent intellectually dead piece of rat shit. I stand by everything I’ve said and I’m calling you out,scumbag. But we both know you’re a coward don’t we Gary? You’re a balless waste of skin.

      • Larry Sandwiches

        He’s a troll bro. I caught his ass on worldstar havin a full blown conversation with a dude named ‘white peoples lips’ callin black people orangutangs. I called him out to. I watched a video, scrolled down, and there was good ol WEB showin his ass to the world.

      • Markus

        I’m not surprised. The coward has his account private so you can’t see his activity and yet he consistently hangs on my comments like he’s a scrotum hair.

      • Larry Sandwiches

        The comment sections on Worldstar are the gutters of the internet. I post funny shit on there sometimes, never racist shit tho.

      • Markus

        I have as well but never have I spoke out of turn or gone racial just for a damn upvote.

      • Markus

        Would you remember the video?

      • Larry Sandwiches

        The one about televangelists defending their private jets

      • Markus

        Cool. I saw it. He’s a bitch to the core.

      • Larry Sandwiches

        Yep

  • Controversy Sells

    yo i couldnt even read everything he said. based on the headline alone i already wrote this nigga off for the rest of life but i tried reading the first few lines and said fuk it. how do you. . . as a black man, who should know his history of his most recent ancestors. . . say some ol dumb shit like this? has this mothafuka been brainwashed by fox news? so you mean to tell me. . . although i dont sag my pants but i dress urban and wear snapbacks and timberland boots and occasionally jordans. . . im a threat to the police and that gives them the right to shoot me dead?

    rza. . . in the words of Cam’ron, “Suck a Dick, Get The Fuk Outta Here”

  • ursocalledgod

    hes speaking grown man shyt. if you don’t want to be stereotyped a thug don’t walk around with your hoodie up pants sagging to the point your azz is completely showing ( suspect shyt anyway) and you wont be approached like one. now there is no justification for the shooting of an unarmed man in ANY case but as far as bruhs getting upset because they are treated like a thug or a banger by cops and you dress this way…come on. you cant carry yourself like a thug or banger than not be prepared for the consequences. we call that fuc boy shyt where im from. if you gon talk it you better be able to walk it.

    • Watever

      Just wondering. How does wearing a hoodie (which is what he mentioned) mean someone is dressing like a thug? White boys wear hoodies and sag their pants too. Are they dressing like thugs too? Or does that only apply to when black boys wear them?

      • ursocalledgod

        that applies to anyone dressing like a thug black or white. lets keep it real there is a difference between just wearing a fuccing hoodie than wearing a hoodie like a thug with your whole ass showing on some supposedly “thug shyt”. that’s where they got this shyt from these new generation of rappers that started doing that gay shyt claiming it was thug shyt. lil wayne, scrappy, soldier boy, plies, etc lol im from the era of real street niggaz and walking around like that is a good way to get your card pulled for real. that’s what the gay boys did on the yard to advertise they azz in the joint. FACT.

      • Watever

        You said it applies to black or white. But yet white kids in hoodies and sagging pants aren’t being gunned down by police. I wonder why? Could it be it’s really the victim’s skin that’s makes them “look like a thug” and not their clothes?

      • ursocalledgod

        I’ve read at least 10 stories within the last 6 months of unarmed white boy’s shot to death by police. When we choose to focus fully on our own we can miss what’s happening around us. These byotch azz cowboy cops are wrong across the board. We just get it more in urban areas because let’s be real where are the most violent crimes committed? In the burbs or the inner city where the population is mostly my people? Exactly…

      • Watever

        Where these white kids you claim that were killed by cops wearing hoodies and sagging their pants? Was there at outcry over what they had on that led to their death? If not, then again attire only seems to be connected to criminal behavior and fear when talking about black youth.

      • Larry Sandwiches

        No outcry. The race baiting media only does it when a black kid gets killed. The facts are easily researched on that one.

      • ursocalledgod

        Idk what they were wearing. I haven’t heard attire come into play since Trayvon was murdered by that coward POS. Anytime you see a suspect caught on camera in the news carjacking, robbery, shooting, is it most likely a person in a nice shirt, polo, pants above the waist, etc? My point is you can sit here and play the victim role all you want , if I MYSELF see a group of youngins with their hoodies up and pants sagging to their knees I’m not looking at them and saying awww look at these upstanding young men whether it be black or white. I’m sure you look at their inner person on sight and never assume. If only we all could be that perfect person.

  • Watever

    The fact he connected wearing a hoodie to the scary black man stereotype is stupid. Go on any college campus or to any sporting event, you’ll see people of all races wearing hoodies. If cops are scared just from seeing a black man in a hoodie, then they don’t need to be on the street.

    • Larry Sandwiches

      When i see a Mexican with a tattoo on his face, I think “THUG”

      When I see a white dude with a shaved head, beard and Doc Martins, i think “THUG”

      When I see a Black kid with his pants sagged, hoodie, walkin with a limp, i think “THUG”

      Lets not throw stones in a glass house. Carrying ones self correctly is something ALL youth seem to be lacking these days.

      • Casor_Greener

        these online goons dont wanna hear the truth

      • Watever

        But none of those so-called “thugs” you mentioned get routinely killed by cops. It’s the people with dark skin (no matter what they’re wearing) COPS seem to find “scary.” That’s a racial issue that has nothing to do with “carrying yourself correctly.”

      • Larry Sandwiches

        Let’s take that excuse away from the cops tho!

        Regardless of whether we should have to or not.

        Lets take that excuse away from THEM!

      • Watever

        A person in a position of power with a racist mindset doesn’t need an excuse to act on that racism. They will hate you whether you have on tailored suit or a jogging suit. Look at how that millionaire black tennis player James Black got roughed up by a cop. He wasn’t dress like a “thug.” How about we stop MAKING EXCUSES for criminal cops by blaming the victims. And instead hold those cops accountable for THEIR actions.

      • Larry Sandwiches

        Im not making excuses for cops. No where in this comment section have i excused any of the senseless killings by cops.

        WE glorify the thug culture everyday tho, and WE dont address that. THEY use it as an excuse, not US.

        THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN TAKE FROM THEM!!!!

      • Watever

        Who is this “we” that’s glorifying thug culture? And don’t say Hip Hop because most of the top rappers today are more hipster than thug. The biggest representatives of Hip Hop culture (Jay Z, Dr. Dre, Will Smith) present themselves as businessmen not thugs. Even the president is a non-thug black man. If anything it’s the mainstream media that sells that thug image, it’s not the majority of black people glorying it. And the minority that does glorify it, is clearly not a representation of the entire race. But none of that matters. Because again racists will see black people how THEY want to see us, regardless of what we do, say or wear.

      • Larry Sandwiches

        the biggest story in hip hop this year was 2 of our own talkin sh!t to each other tho. The media ran with it, but the culture embraced it too. Some people acted like it was “good” for hip hop.

      • Watever

        Please don’t act like battling hasn’t been part of Hip Hop since the very beginning. Were KRS-One, LL Cool J, Common, and countless other rappers other acting thuggish when they were battling in MUSIC? Better yet, were white celebrities like Taylor Swift, Katy Perry and Cher acting thuggish when they had public feuds with other white entertainers? Did they represent every white girl in America and cause people to be fearful of thug acting white women?

      • Larry Sandwiches

        Bro, im on URL watchin battles everyday!! There aint nobody on their getting cheered for NOT actin like a thug! I think any of those rappers you mentioned would agree that they acted like thugs back in the day. Thats not even debatable!

      • Watever

        I doubt KRS, LL or Common or anyone that’s really followed their careers would consider any of them ever acting like thugs. And battling is the complete opposite of thugging. It’s using wordplay and wit to best your opponent in a MENTAL competition. Guess what, they’re not really shooting each other on URL. Have you noticed they usually dap each other up at the end of the battles? That’s real scary thug behavior right? But you wouldn’t want to glorify that type of behavior anyway by watching those URL videos everyday? Right?

        And I noticed you ignored the white celebrities comment. I’m waiting for you to call Taylor Swift a thug since she wrote songs dissing Katy Perry and damn near every guy she’s ever dated. I mean that’s your argument right? If an artist expresses animosity toward another artist in their music then that’s thug behavior. Somebody needs to get control of that thug Taylor Swift before cops start shooting blonde haired white girls out of fear. Lol

      • Larry Sandwiches

        I love battlin for all the reasons you just mentioned. And i know that there is mad love behind the scenes in the culture. I cant say the same for the way its being recieved by the crowd tho.

        Im not saying im not guilty of anything we are talking about. But thats my point. Im not ignoring my own preconcieved notions of what a “thug” looks like in other cultures. IM NOT SAYING ITS AN OKAY REASON FOR A KID TO GET SHOT FROM IT. Just to be clear.

        You cant say that you have never looked at another person from ANY culture and not had a negative preconcieved notion of them. The difference is, you probaly didnt shoot them because of it.

        My point, we cant be mad about the notion that a white person might see a black person and think “thug”. Thats not a good argument. We need to focus on the bullsh!t blue wall that has corrupt ass police officers covering up for each other and lying. These muther f–kers need to be prosicuted AT LEAST!! That is the argument we need to keep focusing on. The media is distracting us with the “hoodie” sh!t and its working!

      • Watever

        Maybe because I’ve had the chance to really get to know people of all races and cultures, I honestly don’t judge people by the way they look. I judge them by their actions whether they’re white or black, cop or citizen.

        I agree that there needs to be more attention on cops that acting bad, but that doesn’t mean it’s a distraction to also push back against comments like black kids wearing hoodies scare cops.

        Those type of comments are dangerous because they do provide excuses for the cop’s behavior by focusing on the victim’s actions and not the cop that did wrong. They perpetuate the stereotype that gives these cops license to kill like, “See even blacks people understand why we’re afraid of them and need to be more violent towards them. They understand why these killings of unarmed black people are justified.” That does not end police injustice or help break the blue wall. It strengthens it.

      • Larry Sandwiches

        I agree with you 100%.

  • Uncle Ruckus

    Hey, I thought America was the land of the free? Why do you or anyone have to pander to racists and their innate fear of people of colour? How one chooses to dress should not be seen as a crime.

    • Larry Sandwiches

      When I see a white dude with a shaved head, flannel, tattoos on his neck, and big beard, and Doc Martin boots on….I think skinhead, sooooooo…….

      • Uncle Ruckus

        but do they get killed by the police because of how they look?

      • Larry Sandwiches

        Yeah, they do. It just dont get reported the same. Im mean, those stats are easy to look up.

        Regardless, im talking strictly about our own individual perception of other people. And I look at more as: Lets take that excuse away from them when they kill us!

      • Uncle Ruckus

        Give me some examples please? Name the skinhead LOOKING white people who got killed BY THE POLICE because of how they looked and dressed. Also names of the white folks killed by pudgy neighborhood captains. Cheers mate

      • Larry Sandwiches

        Again, im talking about perception. The info you are asking for you can look up.

        To act like blacks are the only people who get senselessly killed by cops for sh!tty reasons is playing right into the hand of the race baiting media.

        Google “white people killed by cops last year” and youll find a whole list.

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        Elaborate on this so called race baiting media?

      • Larry Sandwiches

        Nope. Stop actin stupid.

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        Lol “race baiting media”

      • Larry Sandwiches

        Muppet

      • Uncle Ruckus

        Dude, this story is about black kids wearing hoodies right?So again, I ask you, do whites get killed because of what they wear? I never heard of a white dude getting killed because he looked suspicious in a black neighbourhood. I looked up the stats by the way. 2 whites per million killed. 5 blacks per million killed.

      • Larry Sandwiches

        Nevermind dude. Im not gonna play the percentage game with you. Thats like saying “5 black kids is worth 2 white kids.” Its a dumb argument to weigh death like that.

        I have no beef with you bruv. This is just a tough convo for you AND me to get our points across in a forum like this. Im actually gonna try to avoid articles like this on here in the future as I come here to mainly talk about music, but the last few months there have been so many of these types of argument baiting articles on here. More people are arguing in these forums than ever before. When its about the music, it might be fun to argue, but i think im gonna save the real life sh!t for real life from now on. Thanks for the rapport man. I hope we can talk about other sh!t still in the future.

      • Casor_Greener

        Look up your own facts. I’m pretty sure more whites were killed by cops and more cops were killed than black people by cops. Stop lettingt he media fuel the racist propaganda

      • Uncle Ruckus

        racist propaganda. So you’re saying blacks are winning?!!! Please put the Mossberg in your throat and do the Lord’s work!!

      • that’s bullshit a skinhead is not getting pulled over by the police in a white neighborhood because his head is white they’ll let him keep driving

      • Larry Sandwiches

        More unarmed white people were killed by cops last year than any other race. We cant argue against that stat.

  • Hakeem

    THIS DUDE…..
    He loves white america since he made his millions…..
    Its too bad that question wasnt asked of him when he first came out……

  • Hakeem

    So does he have a list of what black men should and shouldnt wear?

    • Larry Sandwiches

      I think we can where whatever we want, but there is responsibility in how we carry ourselves. Too many of us are okay with the “thug” presentation. Let’s not act like OUR elders havnt corrected US on it too.

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        “thug” presentation? Are you talking about the attire or a person body language?

      • Larry Sandwiches

        Both tie into each, and every race has a “thug” presentation.

      • Hakeem

        Im not with sagging pants or the baggie stuff. So Im with him/you on that. But tell me whats appropriate to wear around white ppl and not appropriate?

      • Larry Sandwiches

        I believe a person should be able to wear and present themselves however they want.

        Im just not gonna act surprised by the fact that people percieve certain looks in certain ways.

        And im not by any means saying that ANYBODY deserves to die over how they are dressed.

  • Anthony Mason

    Young black men sometimes can’t afford nice clothes and they wear what their friends wear so….. Maybe he should donate a million or two of his own money and help clothe them then. It is easy to say things like this when you are a millionaire.

    • Larry Sandwiches

      I think you may be trivializing his comments a bit. Regardless of how a person dresses, i think carrying yourself like an man, and conducting yourself like a man are traits we just arent seeing in youths today.

      Walking and chewing food at the same time used to be viewed as slovenly. Walking with your head down used to be disrespectful. Shaking hands with your right hand. If we disregard even those small social manners, the bigger broader strokes are definitley gonna be out of whack. I dont believe in a hoodie automatically meaning “thug”, but I certaintly know for a fact that i can carry myself like a “thug” when im wearing a hoodie if im dippin my shoulder when i walk and i got my pants sagged below my ass. I dont think its just white people who view that look as “thug”, because my dad corrected me looking like that by telling me to pull my pants up and stop acting like a “thug”.

      • tupac shakur

        Youth is going to be the youth, you can’t expect them to be man.. And the way a person is perceived in certain clothes says more about the person that judges then person actually wearing them. Everyday were getting robbed by men in suites.

      • Larry Sandwiches

        I agree with you, but we all do it. You cant say you dont have preconcieved notions about how other people look.

        Those preconceptions dont lead most to kill people, but we still have them.

      • Anthony Mason

        You are preaching to the choir…. I have a father who raised me well and other strong male figures. This is why I think the programs where you mentor kids are so important….

        You can show them how a real man walks acts and talks and show them how to dress properly…..

        Whether people like it or not, you are judged on your appearance and clothing from a primal and subconcious perspective……

    • TRUTH SPEAKER

      It’s about knowing a proper fit, not brand names. You can go to Goodwill and get an outfit that fits and looks better than some bozo in some oversized Versace shirt, true religion jeans, and jordans. Pic up an issue of GQ and leave XXL and Murder Dog on the shelf.

      • Anthony Mason

        I wear dress pants a tie and vest to work every day…I get all my stuff tailored because it is about the fit with dress clothes. Men’s warehouse loves me. Lol!

        Funny when dudes show up to job interviews in baggy suits thinking that is acceptable. It defeats the purpose….

        Those are the types of things men need to teach their sons and also how to tie a tie. It is the simple things….

  • mr morgan

    Some of the white youth should dress properly not to scare some of us black people, cause I’ve seen some scary lookin mofos I wouldn’t go near, the nerve of this nigga wit this bs, ur only young once, and sometime the way one dress could be a little frightening, black or white, so where supposed to cater to them cause U have a few scared? How about they cater to us for a change

    • Larry Sandwiches

      I agree with you 100%. F–k worrying about them correcting themselves tho. Lets just focus on what we can do to raise our kids the right way. If we carry ourselves correctly, then they’ll be the ones who look stupid, AND we’ll take that excuse away from THEM!!!!

      • mr morgan

        Agreed

  • HatingWhitePeopleSince85

    Ok… Well Obama Wears A SUIT AND TIE EVERYDAY and he’s still called a N*gger and Receives Death Threats! So The Notion That If I Somehow Dress Accordingly That It Will Change My Interaction With Police and White People Is Completely Ridiculous! Black Folks Are ALWAYS asked To Compromise and Adjust So That White Folks Aren’t Offended, But NO ONE Asks White Folks To ADJUST THEIR IGNORANCE, PREJUDICES, RUSH TO JUDGMENT AND RACISM against Us! So F*ck This Slave Ass Nigga! And This Is EXACTLY Why You Have To Be Careful Who You Support Cause The Same People Who once Had NO PROBLEM With Promoting Violence and Drug Sales and Promiscuous Behavior To Our Community Will Be The FIRST ONES To Flip The Script On You Once WHITE DADDY Has Given Them A Job and a Little Bit Of Money 💯💯💯

    • Isa Ibn Maryam

      You nailed it.

    • Larry Sandwiches

      Worldstar name and a worldstar comment. FOH

      • HatingWhitePeopleSince85

        Nah F*ck Yo Mama B*tch

      • Larry Sandwiches

        ^see?

    • Savimbi

      Nothing but truth!!!!

  • jacksjus

    Man GTFOH with that BS RZA.

    My brothers and sisters if you ever are unfortunate enough to come across a situation where authority is profiling or harassing you your best bet is to remain silent and ask for a lawyer. Jut let them do their job and if any BS occurs you can report it. It’s simply not worth dying over.

    This is the best advice that I can give other than the obvious which is stay out of trouble.

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  • TRUTH SPEAKER

    RZA is an enlightened man. Some of you people need to catch up.

    • W.E.B. Du Bois

      foh , theres a million vids online right now of whites he Cooning for , showing themselves get away with molesting babys and he got nothing to say about that

      • Larry Sandwiches

        Hey b!tch, i just caught your ass on worldstar calling blacks orangutangs, and I called you out on it in there too. Get the f–k out of here!

      • Anthony Mason

        Lmao!!!!

  • THISIS50

    I kinda agree

  • bluelight74

    Well I see Rza has fully joined the Machine and has decided to become a fully fledged boot licking sycophant. No surprise really. He wants fame, money and whatever else the trappings of stardom seem to provide, he just has to publicly spout his master’s policies and hand over his integrity and self worth in the process. Another clown in the circus. They always seem to have room for one more.

    • YoungZari

      This can’t be Bobby Digital, fam. Gotta be a clone. smh.

      • bluelight74

        Nah it’s him. He started this long ago.

      • YoungZari

        Smh. This is a perfect Boondocks episode, unfortunately.

    • Isa Ibn Maryam

      Believe me by the end of day he’ll start to moonwalk a bit on his commentary.

      • bluelight74

        We’ll see. This tactic is old and tired though. Use black people to establish a massive financial base. Then sh!t on the same people that provided you your wealth and platform. Whites do it all the time, it’s sickening to see black people do it to themselves. But that’s how this turn of the Wheel is to be played out.

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        Word…it’s the self cleaning oven mindset being operated at full blast. Blame the blacks for pigs gunning us down because we weren’t wearing a jacket and tie on our way out to buy some candy and soft drinks.

      • bluelight74

        Blame the oppressed for their own oppression and then get them to continue to oppress themselves. This technique has worked in many times and in many societies not just here and now.

    • Anthony Mason

      I think they get to the point where they are like f*** it…’I’ve already sold out part way….might as well go the whole way’…..

      • bluelight74

        I guess so. Why grovel halfheartedly? Be a complete whore for the System.

  • Harry Richardson

    I had this conversation with my kids after the Mike Brown incident, and my 17 year old who I just bought his first car got profiled and pulled over last night with 2 passengers, once the police seen that they were not the stereotypical teens often associated with wrong doing, they quickly apologized and allowed them to continue on without even running his license, point being your appearance and behavior does play a key part

    • premo

      You sound white. FOH with that BS. Laws are made by one side to favor them. Was you or your ancestor part of that? Doubt it unless you are white.

  • ACC_Fan

    Coming from anyone else I might be suspicious but this isn’t a Cosby situation when a brother from outside of the culture is making judgments and pointing fingers. This is one of the forefathers of this rap shit trying to tell ya’ll what time it is. No victim blaming, just truth telling.

    • DJ7

      RZA ain’t no damn forefather…what year did you pick up hip hop again?

      • ACC_Fan

        Look up the definition of forefather my g

      • DJ7

        He was just a contributor to the culture in the early 90’s fam…forefather is stretching it

  • Larry Sandwiches

    Wow. RZA offers commentary about how to present yourself like a man, and people on here actin like he co-signed the cops killin a kids for wearin hoodies.

    I guess some people only hear what they want tho……SAD

    • Savimbi

      Nah bro, my stance is, off course, i’m passed the age of wearing that daily but I already have to dress a certain way for my 9-5, but if i’m just kicking it w/ my guys on the weekends and just chilling, i’d rather have my jeans, sneakers, fitteds etc…doesn’t make me less of a man, on the same token, I got cousins and nephews who are still in their teens, doing what every teen does, white, Asian and latino kids who are into hip-hop are following the same trends set by hip-hop, so because the system is fugged up, I gotta tell my nephews not to dress a certain so they’d be accepted? or won’t get shot by some cop? that’s preposterous fam.

      • Larry Sandwiches

        Nope. Thats not what I said at all. I dress the same way on the weekends and when im at home. Sh!t, im still dippin my own clarks!

        He was talking about overall presenting yourself like a man tho. Not just how to dress, but how to carry yourself. We all stereotype other people bruv. Im NJ thru and thru, out here in AZ now, and I get a bit twitchy when I see a mexican dude in a wife beater with tattoos on his face. Just bein real here.

        I was down in Hawaii for 4 years too, and Id be lyin if i said i didnt see some crazy lookin big ass Samoan dudes out there that i didnt want any problems with.

      • Savimbi

        He specifically said the Youth!!!! Kids are gonna be kids and with time most grow into manhood, I was young once and I get petrified when I see my sense of style.

      • Larry Sandwiches

        Me too!!!

        Im just sayin, RZA didnt justify kids getting killed. He’s being real about how other people percieve other people tho.

        I was honest below about how I percieved a Mexican in a wife beater with a tattoo on his forehead. I didnt shoot him tho. But i thought “THUG AS F–K!” Am I wrong?

      • rs_yes

        Exactly, you’re not wrong at all.

        The same folks on here claiming RZA is crazy, are PROBABLY the same folks that prejudge people on a daily, but are too ignorant to not expect to be prejudged by others, and call foul when it happens.

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        Okay Mr. Trump.

      • you were out of your element samoans homes is hawaii and the other islands why would you say they look crazy and they been their all the time stop judging appearances and be cautious whether you at home or abroad imagine how you make them feel when you were there

      • Larry Sandwiches

        A samoan was one of my groomsmen in my wedding. I love all people. Im just being honest about those first thoughts that run thru EVERYBODYS heads.

        “Imagine how you make them feel when you are there”
        ^^EXACTLY!!! They have preconcieved notions of me too! There is nothing wrong with admitting that. Dont mean somebody can kill somebody for it tho.

  • i’mreloaded!

    Well damn RZA………. You doin it like that now? He done straight flip flopped on a nigga. Damn

  • STEPH

    “I don’t like to be put in a rut, by a young nigga that need to pull his pants up”-ICE CUBE

  • RazaBladeKing

    There are agents among us. These kinds of articles expose them. Peep game.
    If you’ve seen or heard from George Zimmerman since that tragedy, you know Trayvon would have gotten murdered in a tux, and he still COMMITTED NO CRIME, yet we’ve still got ‘some’ tryin to justify Zimmerman’s actions… and a ‘justice system’ that said the Neighborhood Watch had the authority to do what he did. This country has said “F*ck You” to our people since Day 1, and some of yall still haven’t gotten the message.
    Emmitt Till wasn’t wearin baggy jeans. Dredd Scott didn’t have NWA in his playlist. Hip Hop is not responsible for a practice that has been in effect for centuries. It’s that simple. But I guess, dressin like the stereotype of a murderer is worse than bein an actual murderer. Or at least, you’ve been programmed to think that way.

    • Savimbi

      Amen brother!!!!! AMEN!!!!!

    • Larry Sandwiches

      The fact that you read what RZA said and took it as him “justifying Zimmerman’s actions” means you only hear what you want to hear and have preconcieved notions of other people yourself.

      Throw that stone tho bro

      • RazaBladeKing

        You again. I knew you’d be all over this article; I see you pretendin to be black today with all that “our people” talk below… nice touch. Now, as for today’s lesson: I’ll quote RZA – “When you think about some of the brothers who are being brutalized by
        the police, you also got to have them take a look, and us take a look,
        in the mirror, at the image we portray”. We’re talkin about a 17 yr old gettin murdered by the neighborhood watch for no reason – why do we need to “take a look in the mirror” at all? Why would Trayvon need to reflect on himself AT ALL in that situation, when he’s the innocent victim? The only reason would be to find mitigating circumstances for what happened, and that does a service for Zimmerman, NOT the actual victim. Now I know you don’t get it, cuz you always take these stances here, so I’ll waste no more time on you. You tend to hear what you want to hear, and throw stones accordingly “bro”… ironic, right?

      • Larry Sandwiches

        Thanks Razor Blade King!

  • STEPH

    These fools wearing skinny jeans, and sagging them smdh looking like a load of shit is in their pants.

  • Executive

    Lmao! The fact that a hogskin cop is “scared” and packing a gun is funny. If you’re so scared then why be a cop?

    • RazaBladeKing

      Right? We pay taxes towards a source of protection, and that source of protection fears the people its supposed to protect, to the point that it causes them to kill those it’s protecting (including now 12 and 17 yr olds)… what good is it? Kinda like payin for a crime-solving system that can’t tell it’s gun from its tazer, can’t tell a 12 yr old with a toy gun from an actual criminal, strangles people over cigarettes…

      • Larry Sandwiches

        I agree with you 100% with what youre saying hear, kid.

  • Executive

    Rza must’ve bumble his godamn head somewhere.
    Edit: bumped, lol didn’t realize I said bumble. Must’ve been thinking in Jamaican.

  • jacksjus

    What the RZA is saying is equivalent to telling some women to dress less revealing, so that you won’t get raped. Sure let’s ignore the real problem (the rapists) and just make the victims feel worthless as if they are in the wrong.

    RZA is a dumb ass for this.

    • Larry Sandwiches

      He didnt blame the victims. Using your example, he’a just sayin: “if you got your tits out, people gonna look at them”

      That dont mean she deserve to get raped. But that woman cant say nothin about the way she’s percieved. Me and you might not call her a slut, but other girls might. RZA is talking about perception, he didnt justify anything.

      • Garveyite

        Bullshit he did justify it by giving them an excuse by saying, if the only image you see of black men is bad we should change our ways to accommodate their fears! How about they change there ways and start serving and protecting the communities the are policing, instead of being overseer’s!

      • Larry Sandwiches

        They already use that excuse. He’s not giving it to them. Every race has a type of “look” that might put off or scare other people outside their culture (i listed a bunch of examples below). Have you never looked at another person and said “That dude looks crazy”??

        Him saying that in no way was him justifying kids getting killed.

        We are talking about a man who not only did well for himself, but he raised his brothers up out of poverty too. Raekwon said thats why even if they are beefin thats why he’ll always have love for his brother.

  • why should a so called labeled human being has to change his dress code based on fear when he leaves a location just to appease individuals in another location just to stay alive the people in another location wouldn’t change clothing just to come to the hood so now people have to dress a certain way to stay alive that’s the dumbest, but the smartest thing you said at the same time that let you know racism and prejudices and separationism, and targeting is alive and kicking black people or whatever, stay out of white folks neighborhoods if you want to stay alive and avoid cops at all times if you don’t want to change your dress code rza kept it real but what you should’ve asked the quesition why is black people being targeted at all because sweat pants and hoodies is common place for white folks in their neighborhoods to so actually a black man in the same dress is a suspect or a criminal in the white community but a white man in this same attire in my hood and his hood is just a normal white guy now that’s the real problem in society that you should be addressing or discussing. not someone being harassed based on appearances.

    • Larry Sandwiches

      Nobody should get harassed based on appearences, i agree with that 100%.

  • Nyga07

    It is not about dressing not to be judged, in all black men need to shape our shyt up PERIOD!!
    we have for too long wanted to be the coolest , the most gangster, fly, fugg most chics!!!
    time to let somebody else entertain us PERIOD! No we should not be killed or judged, but we in general fantasize, glorify, the wrong things. Yeah im fugged up too and its not about preaching. we have to get our family , and lives in order. Black men don’t pass there name on, and most time bastard childs, you will look up one day and your family will be gone from history keep playing. But really tho we go thru the same stages/fads over history, from alot of drugs, then back to gangster/hustling, clothes get tight, then they get loose again, and we keep repeating. When will we have the era when we did nothing but go to school, be punks, and own alot of shyt, I’ll wait!!
    And i like freaks,drinking, burning etc just like the next person, but we have to switch it up. RZA made a excellent point when you look at the bigger picture, which we also need to do!! Now these cop killings and things i will never say there is a reason for at all,or that we give reasons by how we act, he should have worded that better. But prime example is when you have a CO feel he need to lie about it, and instead take on the role as a drug dealer, and knowing he had to bcuz alot of us, as black ppl would not respect that. That right there generally is our problem

  • Anthony Mason

    You should not be hurting someone on how they dress. There are many cultures and economic classes on this earth and the b**** a** cops killing these kids will rot in hell if they don’t ask for forgiveness. No fraternity will save you clowns….

    Use you eyes and intuition before shooting a target. These cops would shoot a pre school child and they dont have any aim….

    It is sad that more cops aren’t retired marines or navy seal candidates. I say candidates
    because that is a very small club….

    Dudes will shoot a pigeon from 300 feet away with a .38 revolver….

  • Lyrics

    U become an Millionaire and all of a sudden ur philosophy on life changes….smh RZA should know it doesn’t matter, this issue is waaayyyyyy deeper than clothing worn by young blacks. Wtf was he thinking.

    I see RZA running as a Republican in the near future.

    • hoeyuno

      ^^^^”this issue is waaayyyyyy deeper than clothing worn by young blacks”

      Exactly!

  • KashIsKlay

    They were spraying hoses on us and sicking the dogs on us back when everyone dressed up. Clothing does not determine racism or behavior. The hung plenty of us who were wearing suits. Remember Al Capone and the rest of those gangsters RZA. Stupid comment.

  • I actually think changing the clothing will definitely assist in oppressing police brutality. I know many who got off cause they were suited and with manner as they were pulled. Clearly, the issue is bigger but look at the smaller picture here… it couldn’t hurt! Cops are trained to naturally profile and this would be a great way to have a first impression that could assist. PS Wear a suit when you go get your license picture. Real spit.

  • Eli Pinilla

    Alot of yall are missing the point and RZA makes perfect sense but even he is missing his point. It’s not the clothes that’s the issues. Not everybody wearing timbs and hoodies are criminals. But, there are alot of criminals who wear hoodies and timbs. The image has been portriad of what a “hood” dude is. Or what “urban” clothes looks like. It’s in rap lyrics, movies, commercials, ect. I’m a father of 2. I’ve changed the way I dress cuz I want the appearance of a man my kids can look up to and be presentable. People shouldn’t be judged by what they wear, but we are. And we all judge as well. The cops obviously need to have better judgment then us. They hold lives in their hands and clothes shouldn’t be the determining factor. But once a sterotype has been created, and reality has reflected it, then yes, you will be looked at in that manner until otherwise by those who don’t known who you are just looking from the outside in….48 laws of power says it best. your appearance is everything, people will make assumptions just based off the superficial. So if you dress “successful” they will look at you as such. Same goes if you dress in an urban like manner.

    • Isa Ibn Maryam

      Your argument is flawed.

      • Eli Pinilla

        And why is he dressed like that? So that he doesn’t have the appearance of a criminal type dude. And even that comes full circle. U remember how Frank Lucus got caught up.

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        Yes being overly flamboyant…I get what you’re saying, I just think that the white supremacy agenda don’t give a damn about blacks in business attire.

      • Eli Pinilla

        It’s the mentality. Who’s more accepted in a suit, 50 or jay? The way Jay carries himself is what separates them, not the taylor. It’s def not right. And one would think success is success regardless. But it’s not. And it’s not just a white supremacy thing. Go to the middle east, or china, and pretty much everywhere else in the world and this holds true.

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        So it’s black folks mentality the program racist pigs to murder unarmed men and women?

      • Eli Pinilla

        U so tunnel visioned in your thoughts that you missed the whole point. Def not going there with you.

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        That’s because your point is irrelevant. A mob boss is a mob boss no matter what dress ensemble you choose.

      • Eli Pinilla

        Exactly. But its harder to spot one when he’s dressed like any other successful person. That’s the point. RZA could be selling mad bricks, but you wouldn’t know it. And there’s a dude on the block, who’s all positive, but he’s dressed in hood fashion, so he looks like a hood dude. People don’t have enough time and are too self centered to try and figure you out or get to know u from a distance. They will take you at your word (appearance). Doesn’t justify cops killing anyone cuz of their clothes. Said that from the jump. But the main point stays the same. Once they know you for you, then appearance doesn’t matter as much if it all at that point.

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        Much respect brother.

      • Eli Pinilla

        Always!

    • Elayorx El

      48 laws, or ancient wisdom? The latter seems to work best: “Never judge a book by it’s cover”.

      • Eli Pinilla

        Just because your smart enough to realize that doesn’t mean that the rest of the world is. Just because you don’t judge a book by it’s cover does not mean that your not being judged by your cover.

      • Elayorx El

        Exactly why we can’t give the 48 laws so much credence. If everyone did not judge to the point of odd behavior practices, this would be a much better world.

      • Eli Pinilla

        But those things will always exist. It’s not a social issue. It’s a human nature issue. That’s why stuff like 48 laws of power exist, cuz you playing chess with human nature. That’s why it’s “ancient” cuz it’s the ways its been forever. If everybody followed 48 laws for example, then that would become common thinking and a new 48 laws for that would exist.

      • Elayorx El

        48 laws should be retitled, “How To Get Along With Savages in Suits”. Chess with human nature; on point, if everyone was allowed to view the board the same. You say a human nature issue, exactly why RZA’s comments seem suspect.

      • Eli Pinilla

        You are once you stop thinking you cant. RZA was probably worse off then all of us. There’s a reason these rappers who have become successful see things differently. And it’s not cuz they’re sell outs either…..it is flawed, I said that from the jump. But he’s not wrong in his overall assesmenment of it. As long as human nature is what it is, that way of thinking will always apply. Even within the elite, there are those that function on a higher cord. Once you accept what is, you can change it. I’ve been on the bottom of the bottom. Now I live in goddamn Menlo park ca. I “shouldn’t” be here.

      • Elayorx El

        Ok, no doubt, but you are mentioning things I have no contention with, save for maybe your first sentence. From this comment I can tell we came up similarly, as I now have a family as well. Ever wonder why RZA’s original musical masterpieces left you in awe, as opposed to his later, “post-hollywood” efforts? The answer is in the question, and says a lot about what happens to many of us that become “diluted” away from our “ancient” natural divinity. Reason why I stated prior we are all not privy to how the game is played, but that is a much broader topic, which you seem well aware of judging by your last comment. So now, if this is in fact the case, wouldn’t it be more prudent of people like the RZA to just avoid commenting on these topics all together? Congrats on your success, btw, and I would say you “should” be there, like anyone else who thought they should.

      • Eli Pinilla

        I think we’re both in agreement that RZA didn’t do his point any justice with how he explained it. I just look at it like, he’s came up. He knows what he went through. So now that he’s up, and he knows what it takes to get there and stay there; he wants the youth to come up too. like, I came up, but my boys minds are still where I was. So now that I know how to come up and stay here, im trying to put them on game. Fashion is apart of it. I think that’s what RZA’S intentions are…..I agree that in a perfect world, things like 48 laws shouldn’t apply. And that’s def a broader topic. But I would argue that it HAS to exist. The law of opposites pretty much. There’s no love without hate for example or tall without short. ….. preciate it homie. We all deserve the best. Some of us have to work harder then others to get there. But we all can. Each one teach one. Just gotta make it where people understand instead of getting upset or defensive

      • Elayorx El

        Definitely on point, Eli. Maybe I’m crazy, but to me Hip-Hop was always the benchmark. I understand pliability, and conformity, within reason. I just can’t get that RZA line out of my head:”Never wear no suit, and tie, I’m no gentleman”. R.I.P. Asun Unique, and respect fam.

      • Eli Pinilla

        Trust me, I know lol I’m major Wu-Tang fan. But I just look at it like natural progression. That mentality, at the end of the day, gets us nowhere. It’s what’s builds character in us to prepare us for the next step in life. It would be a shame if he still talked like that. It’s where they were in their lives at that time. If he never changed, we would say he never learned. Look at dudes like onyx or Keith murry. Shit, the majority of these 90’s dudes. They never learned. Just sucks that the quality in music went away with the mentality. I don’t know that they are mutual exclusive. Just think the hunger is gone. And he’s not in a dark place anymore so he can’t pull that insperation from within like he used to…..much respect homie! You opinion is valued.

      • Elayorx El

        Ditto, and I still say we can be gentlemen, minus the suits, and ties;-)

      • Eli Pinilla

        Fa sho. I know alot of them lol but there’s a place and a time for everthing. And right now, until it’s changed, it’s smarter to wear a pea coat then a hoodie if your a minority.

      • Elayorx El

        Exactly. We gotta change it;-)

      • Eli Pinilla

        But still play the game.

      • Elayorx El

        Word:-)

  • Isa Ibn Maryam

    Shooting innocent black folks has never been a crime, it’s the cover up that land these pigs in jail.

    • Super_Hero

      nobody promoted black on black violence more then 2pac. he inspired a whole generation to be gangbangers across every hood in the us. he didn’t start it but he helped spread it.

      • RazaBladeKing

        Thats funny… he inspired me to go to college. Couple of my homies too. Please let that be the dumbest s*** you ever say. Nobody promotes black on black violence more than Hollywood, followed in close 2nd by the media.

      • Super_Hero

        Was that when he was yelling Thug Life. Check out any hood movie. its black on black crime. yes Hollywood played a part but the thug life culture expands on it even when they are not getting money from Hollywood. Independent hood films is all Black on Black crime. Dudes in Chicago are upset because Chi-Raq isn’t a hood black on black classic. They want their own Menace to Society black on black crime hood classic.

      • RazaBladeKing

        Nah, it was from the countless hours and hours of intelligent, significant s*** he talked about. Sayin things like “We need less rappers and entertainers, and more doctors, lawyers, etc” But since you generalized an hours-long catalogue of what he stood for based off of his soundbites, just like you generalized the entire city of Chicago off the tiny criminal segment that makes a lotta noise, I won’t waste any more of either of our time. You keep thinkin 2pac is responsible for an entire generation of thugs, and that Hollywood only played a “small part” in creating the perception that every black man under 40 has an AK in the backseat and bricks of coke in his trunk (while admitting that those are the only types of movies that seem to get made). If you’re hell-bent on lookin stupid in public, I won’t stop ya.

      • Super_Hero

        never said hollywood played a small part. they played a part just like 2pac did. 2pac was a dancer before he became a Blood gangbanger in his 20s. anybody else gets clowned for being a dancer and becoming a gangbanger in his 20s. except 2pac because nobody got in front of a camera screaming that Blood life better then him. When you can’t debate on facts, you result on name calling. yeah i’m lookin stupid to coons. who is that picture intended for. who is that gun for. who is promoting a rapper with a gun on his waist.

      • Eli Pinilla

        I love pac. For all the positives and the negatives in his music. But that last comment was on point.

      • sparkchark

        bullshit

      • Super_Hero

        ask most bangers and they will tell you Thug Life. nobody promoted Thug Life more the 2pac

      • sparkchark

        go molest a mule stone roller

      • Super_Hero

        you can’t handle the truth.

      • sparkchark

        no your anus can’t handle that mule meat…

      • Super_Hero

        coon

      • sparkchark

        a coon is a black person who regurgitates white supremacist talking points in order to not make the white supremacist seem racist…and i havent used ANY rhetoric that would support that defintion…try again mother f**ker

      • Super_Hero

        and that is what you do. coon. promote a black man with a gun on his waist and middle finger. regurgitates white supremacist talking points. yeah that is exactly what the picture you support does.

      • sparkchark

        no a street person rebels against THEIR system so hell yes im supporting that gun toting thug because he don’t care about their system and makes nothing into something to combat their system…what you wanna kiss their a$$ in hopes of a freshly baked buttery buscuit? not me…

      • Super_Hero

        He don’t care about the black community. he is trying to sell records. he never yelled thug life or took pictures with a gun until he wanted to sell records to his community. he took off his dancing shoes and pick up a gun when the photographer took his picture. he didn’t blow up until he promoted thug life within his community

      • sparkchark

        no he was representing us the ones with NO voice the ones who society misueses, beats, spits on and keeps down…he told us to stand up and fight back to stand for something to protect our neighborhoods, to create programs in order to keep our kids out the streets, to raise up against a group of people who wish only to do harm to us…see people like you will never understand because you believe everything whitey tells you…you wanna protect massa then go on!!!! just remember that eventually he’ll come back to put his foot in your a$$ and what then?

      • Super_Hero

        lol. believe that bull while you celebrate his thug life culture of guns and violence to sell records. there where rappers before him to say those things. X-Clan, Zulu nation, etc. The only reason you can recite 2pac was because nobody listened until he put down his dancing shoes, picked up a gun and yelled Thug life.

      • Eli Pinilla

        But he’s dead. And he died cuz he got too stuck on that thug shit. It wasn’t the politics and positivity in the message that got him kilt, it was that middle finger and the mentality behind the gun on his chest that did

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        Did you ever have a Tony Montana poster?

      • Super_Hero

        no but tony isn’t real. he is a movie character. 2pac was a real person who promoted thug culture even when not in the booth. you can’t compare the two. actors don’t keep playing the role when the director yells cut. rappers trying to portray that character even when not on set. they have to keep their thug image intact when not in the booth. they are selling a lifestyle. tony sold a character and was somebody else in the next movie. 2pac became a thug after filming Juice. He wanted to portray that character because it gave him more street cred and sold records.

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        Lol touché.

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        So Pac was the King Snake promoting black on black violence huh?

      • Super_Hero

        yup, Thug Life.

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        So he came up with this grand scheme and convinced the music and entertainment industry to be the Vanguard to knock off black Americans huh?

      • Super_Hero

        No he didn’t start it. but he helped promote it. he only turned revolutionary when he got locked up. When he got on camera, it was Thug Life. then he tried to spin it positive, lol. then people like you fell for it. He was a studio gangster that promoted gangbanging when Suge bailed him out. He was about that Blood life and not blood as in brother but Blood as in the gang. death to all gangbangers and those that promote it. it ruined a generation of you men.

      • RazaBladeKing

        ” he only turned revolutionary when he got locked up” So basically, you never heard 2pacalypse now, Strictly for my…, or Me Against the World, and you don’t know what the f*** you’re talkin about. Gotcha.

      • Super_Hero

        yeah and those album included black on black crime. he was a half way revolutionary half way gangbanger that started banging in his 20s. before that he was a dancer and equipment manager for digital underground. he didn’t blow up unit he started yelling Thug Life.

      • RazaBladeKing

        Yet by your math, you choose to categorize him only for the ‘gangbanger’ half and not the ‘revolutionary’ half… you and the KKK would get along great, yall think the same. But I get it now, by that last sentence. You’ve got a personal problem with a dead guy. You must be from NY. Get over it.

      • Super_Hero

        no such things as half way crooks. you are a thug or not. 2pac was a thug. you can’t promote it half the time. the time you promote it does more damage then when you are not. before 2pac, nobody outside of Cali repped that blood gang. after 2pac nearly every state has members repping Blood. They yell Thug Life. 2pac had a much bigger negative effect to his community rather then positive. How you go from being a dancer to a Blood gangbanger in your 20s. Nobody remember 2pac the dancer. they remember 2pac the blood with Death Row records. just look at the pic. he has middle fingers up with a gun in his waist band. who you think that pic is for. who is looking at that pic. White Hollywood or young black men across the country. he is promoting gun violence to his community.

      • greenhouse records

        im convinced that you are a troll. And for the record Pac wasnt a member of the bloods……

      • greenhouse records

        You do know he was in a nationwide movie and drop his 1st album before the ThugLife Movement……..smdh

      • mademan3000

        Also the countless interviews, fam he’s clueless must be a youngster.

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        Fell for it? I believe Pac was trying to figure it out and the powers to be wasn’t having it. Did he balance the entertainment industry and the real world social issues on his shoulders yes. Was he extreme with his methods yes…but at some point he started to put things together and was at the tipping point of galvanizing both coasts and internationally that rappers and musicians could shake the foundation of the political landscape.

      • Super_Hero

        again, he had more of an negative effect on his community then positive. just because you say something positive doesn’t take away all the damage you already did. Look at that pic. Middle finger, Thug Life, Gun on his waist. Who is that being promoted towards to. white america or black america. You want positive, look at MLK. Look at Rosa Parks. Don’t look at a Blood gangbanger that turned into a gangbanger in his 20s to sell records. why nobody ever shows a pic of 2pac dancing. why does he have to be shown with a gun. because he was trying to sell records to his peoples.

      • greenhouse records

        Whats wrong with him having a gun? Its his American right to bear arms…..

      • greenhouse records

        Damn…. guess you never heard his 1st album in 1991 2Pacalypse Now…….

  • Stupid as f*ck info coming from RZA. Thank God I don’t use him as a source for social advice. Clothing has nothing to do with it. Most officers use clothing as a way to NOT say “his skin was black”. Every time you hear a 911 call it’s that same stereotypical bullsh*t: “There’s a suspicious black man with a hoodie on…” But what they really mean to say is “There’s a suspicious n*gger and I don’t like n*ggers.”

    RZA went on a full blown Uncle Tom moment with this one. His type of thinking (along with Bill-Karma on that ass-Cosby) is what perpetuates racism. And what about all those times when Black folk got shot on full color video camera? What about that sh*t? Did their hoodies blur the camera lens then? Ignorant ass sh*t. RZA has truly gone Hollywood. The Wu is dead.

    • Anthony Mason

      They tried to cash in on that little piece of worthless plastic they called an album by selling it to a pharmaceutical crook….

      When I get home my RZA Cds are going in the trash. I will buy another one of his projects if it is worth buying. I’ve heard them a million times so they are memorized…

      • This sh*t is ironic if you ask me. I mean, he’s specifically speaking AGAINST hip hop culture by attacking the way we dress. How you gonna go against the culture that fed you? Meanwhile he’s selling Wu Albums to yuppie ass pharmaceutical crooks that raised the prices of medicine for the people that mainly carried the Wu flag and made RZA’s ass rich to begin with: The poor. And even his own crew had to air him out for going Hollywood. Da fuk?! Yeah, Wu is dead as sh*t for me.

      • Anthony Mason

        These niggas are selling out at a fast rate. Says a lot about what is on the horizon coming out of these rappers mouths…

        Little boys can’t afford $170 tailored pants…so…take them shopping and buy them some nice dress clothes or STFU forever RZA….

      • Frank

        It’s at that point now. I hope the rest of the Wu don’t believe this bs. I hope they call him out. It’s time. The logic is there but why not just wear a tattoo like the Jews or a star to let the cops know you are not a thug? What’s stopping him from saying that next? RZA is on a path of self destruction. It’s like one of my oldest friends that influenced my life has flipped the script N got brand new on me. I’m hurt man.

      • The Ripper

        I feel you brother!!!!

    • sparkchark

      he got all that money so he thinking he has to appease whitey or they aint gonna use his music for their films anymore….thats why he talking like how he talking… and i hope that nigga reads my comment too! can’t shuck and jive your way out of white supremacy homeboy…

  • rs_yes

    Here me out before being ignorant.

    After reading RZA’s comments, and reading everyone’s comments, I feel that RZA has a point. It’s all about perception. Collectively, the younger generation dresses to match what’s fashionable (aka in style). Right now, you’re either rocking the preppy look, or your rocking what you see in music videos – urban style.

    No, it is not right that we should have to change our clothing to make someone accept us. BUT…hear me out… nobody is arguing and putting up a fight about needing to dress up for a job interview, a reception, or any other event where your attire is important and you will judged otherwise. So why is it that we feel that dressing up for an interview is more important than dressing up to avoid being portrayed in a negative manner, that MIGHT lead to some bulls**t, unacceptable scenario taking place. Ask yourself that. I’ll wait…

    Sometimes, we (black community) just need stop and look at ourselves and make changes BEFORE we expect everyone else to take our demands for change seriously. Example: Do you know how foolish we look protesting and shutting down streets for these police killings, BUT not using that same energy when we are killing ourselves EVERY F*CKING DAY in Chicago, Detroit, etc.? I mean, seriously…let’s focus that same energy on changing our own community FIRST. Once we change our community, then maybe, just maybe, “others” will take us seriously. The problem is that we won’t do it because it is easier to look at someone else and pass the blame before taking the time to reflect upon yourself and make a change.

    • RazaBladeKing

      We were gettin discriminated against and murdered centuries before our community was a “problem”, that’s why. But go ahead. Instead of talkin about how the neighborhood watch shouldn’t be armed and have a license to kill, and instead of talkin about how the group we pay to protect us shouldn’t be killin us more than any gang in the US (look up those stats), let’s talk about how we dress, and pretend like we throw parties for black on black crime and only get mad when someone else kills us. You’ve successfully been programmed.

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        True indeed. This man has been saying some slick bs for a minute lately. So now that Zionist Massa have become comfortable with his black a$$ in Hollywood he think that he can just jump out there with his “what blacks need to be doing” bullshyt rhetoric.

      • disqus_lcLBazVyTd

        GOT EM

      • Super_Hero

        bull. i looked up the stats. nobody kills black men more then black men. Just like nobody kills white men more then white men. same for Latin and Asians. stop spreading that bull that gangs are telling you. Yes there are bad cops. yes its unjustified the way they get off. but stop spreading the lies some gangbangers are saying. they are just as crooked as those cops.

      • rs_yes

        Programmed? FOH with that BS. I speaking from my perspective. And you know why? I take off from work to go protest in DC and BMORE when there are rallies happening. I support my community through and through. I’m even there to show my disdain when we are how continually killing ourselves. I’m doing my part to try to make a change. That is why my position is what it is.

        But enlighten me bro, what are you here doing to push for a change?

        Getting back on target though – yes, it is a problem that cops are killing innocent blacks, as well as pre-judging us. That is totally unacceptable. Which is why WE protest and push for a change. We SHOULD be doing the same push against black on black violence – instead we glorify it. But I digress…and that wasn’t the purpose of my response. I spoke specifically on what RZA stated about perception of us as blacks. Whether we like it or not, we are part of an over-arching society that is totally based on perception. Everything you PROBABLY (yes, I said probably) do on a daily basis is because of perception. You get haircut (or done) because you want to look good for chicks, you get fresh kicks because you want to stand out from everyone else and look good. THAT’S PERCEPTION. Now, it is suddenly a problem when the idea of changing the perception of white people of blacks comes up. If you ask me, it sounds like you’re programmed.

        Oh, and this is nothing more than positive, constructive dialogue in hopes that it sparks some kind of POSITIVE change in our culture. Talk is cheap, go out and do your park and make a difference, if you’re not doing so already.

    • Frank

      He don’t have a point. You can wear wtf you want and shouldn’t have to fear being killed by the folks we allow to have great power to protect us. No argument whatsoever.

      • No name

        Word to that.

    • No name

      Ok so what clothing will stop the violence? You truly think if we change our clothes the mentality of some of these white folks will change? Look at how some of them dress don’t they wear hoodies? Don’t some of these racist folks wear th Sam shit we wear? So blacc men in suits never get harassed? Don’t NOI wear suits? So you think white people have no problem with the NOI? Doesn’t Farrakhan wear a suit? Do racist white people respect him? Do white cops respect him? Come on bro. Your heart is in the right place you need to get a dose of reality though.

  • sparkchark

    this nigga here…you part of the 5%ers and you supposed to embrace knowledge…in america your blackness is a crime..they make up laws specifically for us to target us and keep us down…white supremacy is “i can change the terms and policies because i say so” tell a white person about homicide and they’ll flip the terms to benefit them and not you… we gotta quit making excuses because in the early 20th century blacks were well dressed and STILL GOT LYNCHED… so that aint gonna fly with me what he’s saying…

    • Isa Ibn Maryam

      I’m convinced that a lot of intelligent blacks don’t have a clue about the depths of white supremacy.

      • sparkchark

        i do…i deal with it day in and day out…the f**k you talkin about?

      • Isa Ibn Maryam

        White supremacy genius!!!

      • sparkchark

        ??

    • SBRon

      “White Supremacy” = OXYMORON…Let’s all keep that in mind!!

      • sparkchark

        How so? Because as far as I’m concerned there is no other form of racism that another group uses to oppress any other group with….ex..give me a law where blacks could oppress whites…give me the date it was made,the state it was written up in, and the name of the politician who helped to get it passed…

      • W.E.B. Du Bois

        making It breaking the law to look at child porn – then letting whites get away with it – that allow whites to keep posting zillions of child porn , make it illegal to identify them , then they do nothing about it , meaning they have green lite to get away with it

      • SBRon

        The white man as the SUPREME being over the Black man is BOGUS!! That’s what I’m sayin…

      • sparkchark

        No not in a physical sense but In a sense of social,economic, and through laws…. THATS what white supremacy is…

  • blackwallstreet

    more proof for these kids out here, just because a dude becomes famous , doesn’t mean their a genius, so don’t follow all the bullshit you hear from people just because they are lucky enough to find a way onto your tv or radio

  • King Kredible

    “I stopped eating meat because their lives matter to me. I don’t think it’s necessary for us to grow a cow to kill it.”’

    Hey Ruler Zig Zag Zig Allah…plants have lives too. Just sayin’.

  • Live Well

    Glad he wasn’t on that conformity shit in 1995. We never would’ve even had a Wu Tang.

    • Frank

      Oh my God you hit it on the head. The nerve of this dude.

      Wtf is up wit my 90s rappers being hypocrites? Nore said in a song these kids today got no morals. Wtf?!? Y’All was the ones saying get that paper any way you can. New York get the bloody money. If you didn’t raise the kids with “No morals” then it’s they parents that y’all raised. And now y’all acting brand new?

      See, it’s like, ok, where I come from
      In my neighborhood, my people know me
      Youknowhatimsaying? See, if I try to come any different
      They ain’t gon’ respect me no more
      Youknowhatimsaying? Because they – you know people
      Got their thing about themselves, you know
      If you come from the neighborhood, youknowhatimsaying
      You couldn’t, you couldn’t get out the neighborhood
      But you could never take the neighborhood out of the people
      Youknowhatimsaying, but if you try to like jump and crossover
      To the other side, people understand that, and they don’t like that
      That’s why they don’t be buying people music
      See, we keeps it real, and we always gon’ keep it real
      You can’t knock what’s real, youknowhatimsaying? We telling the truth, man

      ODB r.i.p.

      • Super_Hero

        they grew up. nobody is the same 20 yrs later. its called growing up and maturity. If you still have the same mindset as 20yrs ago, you never grew up. you will never evolve. with that said, I’m not co-signing what RZA is saying. I do understand some of his points but i’m not down with it. why is it not ok to say a girl shouldn’t wear a certain dress to not be subjected to rape but ok to say we shouldn’t wear hoodies for fear of getting shot.

      • Frank

        I don’t cosign that rape is because of a dress tho. That’s also a drastic thing like murder for a Hoodia. Either way like you said you shouldn’t be judged by what you where.

        He has a point but it’s a poisonous point. A slippery slope of guilty until proven innocent. No matter how much that happens we can’t just let it. We got to check this attitude immediately and not live with a gun to our head cuz of our choice of gear.

        And Yeah we grow. I’m not the same I was but at the same time these dudes was spitting that shit. Nore needs to be reminded on that no morals shit. RZA situation he want you to dress up to not scare cops. The guys with the guns and the police unions and all that. Nah homey. I’m not feeling this new RZA.

      • Live Well

        Exactly

  • FACT_CHECKseed

    But Malcolm was assassinated in a suit…Martin was assasinated in a suit…smh

    • Mike

      FREAKING GOAT

      CANT believe the coon

    • Anthony Mason

      They were political and high level organization figures…..This new stuff is different …..

      Regardless….Black men need to start keeping their little men fly and teach them how to dress properly. My one nigga has his son dressed like a GQ model and he is only 6 years old….

      • FACT_CHECKseed

        Fellow King, the oppressor cares not if your wardrobe is “fly”. That is not the solution…it takes a change in our mindset. So long as you refer to fellow Kings as “my one nigga” and resort to European owned magazines like GQ as a reference to what is acceptable…they win. I say this in love, not to divide but to awaken the God and King in you; recognize your divinity!
        The problem with RZA’s comments is that he would rather appease white police than to recognize the real issue at hand. We are being assassinated whether we are wearing hoodies or suits. This is a pain not realized by the likes of Mark Zuckerberg (hoodie) or Tom Ford (suit). We need to change our MINDS before we concern ourselves with changing clothes.
        Peace

      • Anthony Mason

        I say my nigga to white people too. It has no basis in reality anymore online. My terminology and choice of words is sometimes a bit too casual. I spend so much time being politically correct in my daily life…I’m not walking around using the word as a derogatory term…

        It’s equal to “bother” or “dude” or random guy to me. I’m from the city fam….

        Thank you also King. I took no offense to what you said….

        We need to subscribe to better modes of living in black culture and learn to represent ourselves in a better light is all I was saying and stop acting like we have shackles on us…..

        Ones perception is ones reality and that is just life….

        Dressing “fly” to me is just a term. I could have said sauve,proper,dignified,neat etc. Essentially dressing proper is very important to teach young men….

    • IDNTGIVAFUCKBOUTNOTHING

      Real Shit bruh. Maybe RZA forgot about that part.

  • No name

    Wtf? This nigga mean? Did he forget how the WU was dressed bacc in the day? In videos with hoodies, ski mask, and tims. Next he gon Say don’t wear gold teeth it scares white people. Rza know niggaz can’t afford all the fancy shit that’s partly why the hoodies are worn. He rich but niggaz from his own squad scrapping lint out their poccets since he want laying niggaz. Smh….how soon we forget. Coming from the white man or even someone privileged to say this would make sense but Rza? Not Bobby digital? Wow. More importantly in some cases the victims did not have on hoodies. White America fears young blacc men as a result of the no nonsense attitude. Cats ain’t win that bullshit so they speak their mind and this fears white america case in point tupac. When we speak up they want to shut us down. Yes sometimes ignorance comes out the mouth. But even without a word said cats get prejudged. Cuh I’m done with RZA. If you wear a hoddie then you are not good enough to support RZA SO DONT. #Negroplease
    #charlamagnedonkeythisniggaplease

  • ZUBU

    I’m older so of course I’m on my button-up shirt, slack game. However RZA has lost his fricking mind. He thinks young brothas need to change how they dress to prevent getting killed?
    ——————
    Young white kids wear hoodies, skater white kids wear baggy clothes, Grunge white kids dress like bums, but none of them are killed at the rate we are, nor are they profiled like we are. This shit is a war against black and brown men……….
    —————–
    Lost respect for RZA, I understand him wanting his kids to not sag or flag, but damn you can’t wear some comfortable gear. I’m generally buttoned up, but on a Saturday running errands, shopping, etc. I often wear sweats, nikes, etc. Damn don’t shoot me because I’m not prim and proper everyday in order to make someone else feel safe…. Fukkk that………..

    • FNALSOLUTION

      Well said brother.

    • SBRon

      I lost some respect for this dude, as well!! Until Mark Zuckerberg gets gunned down in his hoodie by the jakes, I’m not trying to hear RZA!!

      • Harriet Tubman escaped a slave catcher by pretending to be able to read…..

        RZA is teaching youngsters how to shooby doo massa’s overseers.

      • Pirate7X

        Until that shooby doo make-up hides my race, keeps me from getting profled in my ride and on the street and allows me unlimited credit at the bank, I’ll only wear that ’cause I like it and not expect equal treatment to whites ever.

        Dress shirt ain’t stopping cops from ‘fishing & hunting’ us everywhere and not just the ‘hood’…

      • True, but you in button down with tie vs sagging jeans?

        The saggin is low hanging fruit / easier targets.

    • The Ripper

      RZA is a dumbass!!!! He totally forgot he was the visonary for the WU Tang Clan. They wore baggy shit all day, everyday!!! I am totally disappointed in the Bobby Digital!!!!

    • Just suggesting the right camouflage.

      • ZUBU

        I understand what you’re saying and I use the Shooby Doo as you stated. I try to project an image to eliminate negative reactions toward me, yet still people are so-called scared of us.
        ———————-
        My white friends do not experience the same things I do, some of my white friends have noted the differences in our treatment when we are out any where shopping, dining, ball games, etc. They never realize how different we are treated until they spend time with a brotha, and they know I’m a good dude, they know I have money, they know I mean no harm, yet they see how people treat me….. Just because the color of my skin, because I’m generally well groomed, mannered, etc. but still get treated considerably different…..

      • Without a doubt!

      • Pirate7X

        Camouflage chameleon, ninjas scaling your building?

        Sorry Bobby Digits takes an L on this. Havard’s own fav negro Dr. Henry Louis Gates got dragged out of his own home in cuffs in a Polo with Bugle Boy khakis on.

        It’s 9 o’clock son, were the fuqq ya seeds at?!…

      • “To late to grab your gun they already got your wife & children”

        Just maybe they might by pass that tie…..if there are others around.

      • Pirate7X

        Maybe…

  • TruthHurts

    Hate on Rza and continue to make your hard-line stances, but the bottom line is that people of any color who dress and act a certain way, and hang out in certain places at certain times are always going to be negatively profiled by police and others. Hence why many clubs and other business establishments have dress codes. Bottom line is being “real” has nothing to do with how your dress. It’s how you act and how you carry yourself. Dressing like a “thug” only magnify’s others opinions of you into a narrow stereotypical light. Maturity = learning things like this.

    • ZUBU

      You’re an agent…… You know very well white kids are often attired the same but are not profiled in the same fashion…. You know it is not the same and has never been the same for men of color. Having said that I have plenty white friends, and I’m a refined gentleman and my treatment is still different than that of my white friends…. That is life in America, when I’m better dressed it alters the treatment I receive slightly, but at the end of the day I’m still viewed as some sort of threat……… No hate on anyone just the truth…….

      • Both of you are right, but I agree with RZA.
        On Massa’s driver’s license I carry, I got a fresh cut, shave & threw on a tie for the pic so when I hand it to the overseer, he sees the tie & thinks I can read….and therefore hopefully gives me some slack based on that image & my conduct.

        Is that wrong that I have to do it?
        YES

        Do I gain from it?
        Yes

      • Mec-One

        A tie on your license picture? ! really bruh? ! Brothers ain’t even getting that far with police before being gunned down. Diallo was gunned down while holding his wallet in his hand …the picture on your license ain’t helping shit when cops already got you pegged as a suspect and a threat

      • You’re 100%correct, BUT that tie may just prevent you from being pegged…if you get that far…vs homie with the saggy jeans & timbs?

        Blacks / Hebrew Israelites? are prisoners of war & at war & as such, should wear appropriate camouflage.

        ( The Spook Who Sat By The Door )

        Check it on Google videos ^^^

      • Pirate7X

        But why does he stop you first while driving at 35 miles per hour at the speed limit?

      • You know the deal….

      • Pirate7X

        To add on, why don’t all bros with locks cut them off because bootlicking batty negroes like Anthony Mackie believe that’s deserved grounds for being profiled? What, brothers gotta wear blond wigs and white make-up to avoid harassment?

        All this has to do with color / race ultimately and much, much less to do with apparel or hairstyles. Dr. Gates is as threatening as DMX in the eyes of the pig cops, white supremacist caucasians and others.

      • No disagreement, but peep how I flip it:

        You live in whatever country & they just discovered the USA’s oil under your land, so now you have to be liberated, etc….Will Smith / Independence Day style, str8 jelly rolled your whole community, so you take up arms in self defense & an ex-patriot defects from USA air-force & says :

        “Their A 10’s are equipped with Forward looking infra red to see in the day & thermal vision to see at night, the safest time to move is during the twilight between the two / dusk & dawn to increase your chances for survival / avoiding detection.”

        Do you move between sundown & sunrise or say :

        “Fugg that, they can move about freely?”

        The heat is on us & if that button up helps avoid detection…..so be it!

        Never wore MC Hammer pants to hide the Pirates long bow / pump?

        Big goose down to hide the Mac?

      • Pirate7X

        Bro that is an imaginative and interesting scenario that can be paralleled to the status quo…somewhat. A great “They Live” type of message in an adventure plot, write it up.

        The only thing is if proof showed that button-up camo ‘disguises’ protect our lives and resources (subversive info), then cool. But we deal with martial law from the hood to suburbs (seen it in both) because of skin. The khakis only help some but not enough.

        And I’m RZA and your age group so I’ve been through itto and no I don’t nor EVER have sagged my pants. I wear sweatpants & hoodies to go exercise and what now I gotta pack a business suit just to avoid scared looks? I ain’t gonna make them feel any more at ease ever from a suit.

        The mentality (long-term real challenge) has to be worked on and rights for people of color to not be profiled for their skin or extra because of their gear must be worked on. I hear and it’s not either or, it’s both.

      • I kinda agree but, long term should be having our own chet where we don’t need to camo up to be who we are, safely, until then, RZA’s advocating a form of low profiling like a hustling pro.

        Low key like seashells.
        RZA isn’t blaming the dress code, just advocating appropriateness.

        Stepping into a white hood….last thing a brother needs is extra negative attention.

        It’s still Massa’s plantation nation.

      • TruthHurts

        Not sure why my first comment to this disappeared, but before you accuse me of being anything why don’t you read my post? I said people of any color need to realize if they act/dress a certain way and hang out at certain places at certain times, they will be profiled. This is the problem with people nowadays, you react and comment without knowing the facts first! The only “agent” i am is an agent of truth to those who are ignorant such as yourself.

  • gerald dawkins

    so why havent we heard of white kids that wear hoodies,baggy jeans hanging off their butts, in bad areas, and at all times of the night being gunned down?

  • jeffrey Jones

    Of course RZA. We all have a walk-in wardrobe full of sponsored Hugo Boss shit. gtfoh

  • W.E.B. Du Bois

    America made it illegal to look at child porn – then let whites get away with posting millions of it , that means they do nothing about stopping them , and make it illiegal for anyone to identify them – then add on white mothers never had one protest about government letting their race get away with it – if they did, government wud have to do something , instead of just giving whites a genre name “child porn” , never reporting it in the media , and tricking everyone in America except me into letting them live on with their culture , and direct your “attention” at others like RZA is doing, succeeding in white’s child molesting video culture thriving

  • Mack

    All I can think about here is what KRS said about overseers.

    • “Officer, from overseer, need a little clarity? Check the similarity…”

  • He should have articulated this way different. These two issues shouldn’t be correlated. Unarmed blacks should not be killed no matter how they dress, and the second issue is black men improving our disposition.

  • DickDangles

    Rza is out of touch Smh never thought I’d see the day

  • rs_yes

    Honestly, everyone in here can do social experiment and record it within a hidden camera, then post the results.

    Week 1 – Dress in our “normal” urban fashion. Record interactions on the street, in businesses, etc.
    Week 2 – Dress in a more proper (whatever that may be) fashion. Record those interactions.

    Compare and see the differences. I bet dollars to donuts perceptions would be much more positive during week 2. Wether that’s right or wrong, is not the question/debate. It’s showing that positive perception MIGHT (keyword: MIGHT) lead to these unnecessary deaths taking place.

    But hey – that’s my opinion.

    • Anthony Mason

      It matters. That is a good experiment for people to try…

      As a black male around white people daily…. I can tell you that white people are in no way threatened by well dressed black men and some attractive white women damn near try to rape you when they see you….

      This smoking hot little white college audit intern who just started yesterday damn near jumped on me in the break room. I damn near had to stiff arm her once she found out I had a girlfriend….lol!

      • rs_yes

        LOL!

    • W.E.B. Du Bois

      that’s not what the article is about – its about a officer fireing his gun based on likeing a black’s outfit or not

  • dbfromdc

    HOW ABOUT COPS JUST NEED TO STOP KILLING UNARMED BLACK PEOPLE!!! IT HAS NEVER BEEN ABOUT CLOTHES!!! IT’S ABOUT SKIN COLOR PERIOD!!!

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  • Steve

    Blacks need to worry about conditions of there neighbourhoods and the fact they kill eachother in absurd numbers around America before they worry about so called racist police that just so happen to kill more whites then blacks. This black injustice thing hasnt gotten out of hand.

    • W.E.B. Du Bois

      there is injustice big time – look at white’s child porn sites and see them get away with commitng millions of dasderly felonies

    • gezuscryst

      Steve, keep your white azz off of this site! Put your opinions on stormfront!

    • therealjjohnson

      You need to worry about the correct usage of there, their, and they’re.

    • therealjjohnson

      And they don’t kill more whites than blacks. Do you even know what you’re talking about?

  • IDNTGIVAFUCKBOUTNOTHING

    RZA you really disappointed me with this one. So basically after all these Years of fighting against the system and fighting for equality, you’re advice for the Younger Generation is to change their Style and forget who they are in order to disguise themselves as a Non-threat to Cowardly White Cops. That Money go straight to a Nigga head every time.

  • Q.

    WOW. I love the Wu and the all the innovations RZA has brought to the game, but this is a stupid-azz look for the god. This sounds like some borderline coon sh!t. I won’t waste time trashing this brotha–I’ll just throw this out there:

    Black men and WOMEN in the 60s were wearing dresses, slacks, ties, button-ups, cardigans, sports jackets and church shoes and were getting their heads cracked open by police while german shepherds were biting chunks out of their hides. …You mean to tell me in 2016, the reason we’re getting lynched in the streets today is due to our attire? BULLSH!T. Henry Louis Gates almost got popped in his own goddamn house…what you think he was wearing that day… some sagging jeans and a XXXL white tee? GTFOH

    LET’S STOP PUZZYFOOTING AROUND THE ISSUE. BLUE ON BLACK MURDERS DON’T HAVE A GOTDAMN THING TO DO WITH YOUR CHOICE OF ATTIRE. IT HAS TO DO WITH GENETIC SURVIVAL AND MAINTENANCE OF THE CURRENT GLOBAL SYSTEM OF INSTITUTIONALIZED WHITE SUPREMACY, CONTROL, INTIMIDATION, AND THE FEAR OF A BLACK DOMINANT MAJORITY. PERIOD. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WEARING A SUIT AND TIE AS A STRATEGY TO COPE WITH RACISM, YOU SOUND LIKE A TRAUMATIZED ABUSE VICTIM, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT THE MAJORITY OF US ARE HERE IN AMERICA. AND THE LONGER WE KEEP DIVERTING OUR FOCUS FROM THE ACTUAL PROBLEM AT HAND, THE LONGER WE WILL CONTINUE TO GET SLAUGHTERED BY THE POLICE. STOP THAT VICTIM-BLAMING BULLSH!T AND START ATTACKING THE ISSUES HEAD ON. AS LONG AS YOU’RE HYGIENIC, APPROPRIATE AND DON’T LOOK LIKE A SLOB, YOUR CHOICE OF DRESS SHOULDN’T BE A ISSUE. N!GGAS GET A COUPLE OF DOLLARS AND START CARING ABOUT WHITE FOLKS FEELINGS. SMH N!GGA, STOP!

    #DAMNWHYYOUSCREAMINGBRUH #DONTPLAYDUMB

    • gezuscryst

      True.

  • therealjjohnson

    They’ve hung niggas in suits.

    • Pirate7X

      …also hung returning war veteran African-American soldiers in their military uniforms with medals for serving this country after fight for the ‘American Way’ that they never get to benefit from.

  • Leonard Tarver

    RZA Not 1 Black person agrees with you. Especially when your career started off with baggy jeans, timbs, and a large shirt…

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