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Different Spins : The State of Hip-Hop with Red Café, Rich Boy, And Soulja Boy
Published Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:46 AM
By Ms. Zaida Khaze

What do Red Café, Soulja Boy and Rich Boy all have in common?  They are all part of the new generation of rap artists that have establisshed an immense presence during what seems like a crisis in Hip-Hop.  Red Café developed himself as a ghostwriter for some of your favorite rappers, like Diddy and Busta Rhymes, has a CD out with DJ Envy including the single "Dolla Bill," and will soon release his debut album on Shakedown and Konvict Music through Universal Records.  Sixteen year old Soulja Boy gained  attention through his dance routines, rap and lifestyle. Having amassed over 14 million hits on his myspace page, he is slated to drop his much anticipted debut album on October 2nd.  Rich Boy, who hails from Alabama, garnered a strong presence with his hit single single " Throw some Ds,"and came out with a strong debut album which reached number three on Billboard.


With these new artists leaving their stamp on the Hip-Hop industry while so many are flopping like it’s hot, who better to get answers on the demise of Hip-Hop than artists who found originality in an already saturated market.  Read on… 
 
 

AllHipHop:  How did you get your name? 


Red Café:  I grew up with the name Red, and Café [allowed] me to deliver whatever you need just like a café.   


Soulja Boy:  I got my name from my momma’s boyfriend.  The name was passed down to me.   


Rich Boy:  I got my name from my last name.  They used to call my father Rich, short for Richard.  When I was born, they would say, "There’s Rich boy."
 

AllHipHop:  What strengths or characteristics helped you break through the mold this year?  


Red Café:  I don’t compromise who I am is my biggest strength regardless of what is knocking at the door.  Plus, I’m consistent.  I was encouraged to make records that were trendy at the time but it didn’t represent myself. I didn’t want to compromise myself for the consumer by delivering to them what isn’t real.    


Soulja Boy:  My style is different from everyone else.  I have the talent and the look that many people like.   


Rich Boy:  First, I come from Alabama and that was a big issue because there were no artists on the label.  Secondly, my sway and my swagger were different for a new artist. 


AllHipHop:  Is there an advantage to being an underdog? 


Red Café: Absolutely. Underdogs don’t have any expectations set by consumers to sell ten million records.  Personally, it makes me work harder to prove everyone wrong.  And, whenever you do sell really well, people say they knew you had it in you.   


Soulja Boy:  People want to see the underdog die.  If you just see a nobody come from nowhere and you see someone hustling and grinding for a long time, and you finally see them with their own CD, that’s who people want to see do well. 


Rich Boy:  There is definitely an advantage to being an underdog because they don’t see it coming.  People aren’t aware of what you are about to come with. 
 

AllHipHop:  How would you describe the state of Hip-Hop?   


Red Café:  Once Hip-Hop really crossed over, songs became radio friendly in hopes of artists becoming national stars. Those types of songs get a lot of rotation but they do not generate album sales.  It ends up hurting us in the end because Hip-Hop came from the streets and when you make a “poppy” record with no substance and a shelf life of ninety days, it’s bad.  We need our artists to continue to be big so we can continue to be recognized.  Now, I think it is starting to correct itself and it is going back to the grass roots, back to independent records.  For example, Common Sense, getting 500,000 spins.  Kanye and 50 Cent are also coming back with real music and this will change music by the end of the year.     


Soulja Boy:  Right now, Hip-Hop needs something new and something needs to change with what is happening right now.  The South plays a big part in where music is now. 


Rich Boy:  It’s in an era where songs that are playing aren’t head banging. It’s more a certain feel good party song revolving around a dance move, where artists like Tupac used to talk about deep topics, world issues, racial profiling and things of that nature.   
 


AllHipHop:  How does Hip-Hop being in a slump work to your advantage or disadvantage?
 


Red Café:  Music changes all the time and artists do well depending on what people want to hear at that time.  I will have a following because it is coming back to my kind of music I have been creating.  In ’92, you saw how the West Coast changed music with Snoop, Dr. Dre, Daz and Kurupt.  Everyone was listening to that music.  Then Puffy changed it, East Coast music was rocking.  More recently, Lil Jon changed the music following to the South.  Now, it’s coming back to a different sound, you just have to get with it.   


Soulja Boy:  I used the internet to my advantage because it is  24/7 promotion and advertising.  With as many hits as I get on MySpace it’s advantageous.  And, when a new artist has a hot new single but nobody has ever heard of the artist, their album won’t do as well. 

 

Rich Boy:  I feel it will rotate back around to a time where there were more serious issues on the radio.  A few people put out some records that were played and everyone followed similar suit.  I used it to my advantage by coming out with something different. 
 

AllHipHop:  What do you believe contributed to Hip-Hop swerving in this direction?   


Red Café:  There aren’t any A&Rs.  One party song and an album without any substance.  We aren’t selling the lifestyle anymore we are just selling the dance move.  The artist has no identity, just one single.  Music is focusing all their energy and budget on one artist that has one record that they believe to be a hit.  It might be a hit for the radio but it isn’t doing anything for the culture or the artist in terms of longevity or revenue. 


Soulja Boy:  No comment. 


Rich Boy:   I believe that someone put out a track like that and everyone saw that it did well and jumped on that formula.  It’s like a casino where someone wins the jackpot.  Now, everyone has a recording studio. It’s comparative to everyone playing the slot machines trying to win the jackpot.  Yeah, everyone has talent but it is supposed to be a creative art. 
 

AllHipHop:  Which rappers contributed to this change?   


Red Café:  Like I said, it isn’t really the rapper, it is the people behind him, the people teaching them how to complete an album.  The people should make sure there are three or four of those kind of tracks before they jump the gun and release the album.  


Soulja Boy:  No comment. 


Rich Boy:  Cash Money, No Limit, Master P, and Puffy.  They showed the fruits of their labor on videos of cars and jewelry they purchased.  People watching the videos were like, “Damn, those are nice things.” 


AllHipHop:  Does the fast paced industry contribute to speedy completion of an album? 


Red Café:  Yes, because you run into a problem with scheduling.  Pop acts are doing really well with major labels and all of the budget is directed that way.  You aren’t getting any money, or support. You have to hope that you have a good relationship in the building or that your record is organic, reacting organically. Other than that, you are going to be jammed up.  Unless you are like the Clipse.  “Grindin’” took eleven months before it popped.  They stuck with it and it ended up going platinum.     


Soulja Boy:  I say it does, especially when you are amped to do an album. Later you look back and wish you had changed certain things.  If you take your time instead of rushing for completion, you probably wouldn’t feel the wrath of your sales.  It’s partly the record label executives' fault, if they rush a hot single and it flops. 


Rich Boy:  Master P dropped No Limit albums every month staying on the Billboard [charts], video and radio rotation.  Everyone thought that was the way to go and dropped albums consecutively. 
 

AllHipHop:  What advice would you offer up and coming artists? 


Red Café:  Stay consistent, work hard, don’t compromise yourself, and do homework on music.  Don’t jump out there and make decisions just based on today.  Make a decision based on tomorrow because you want to have a future.  I haven’t put out an album yet, but I am in a great place because if I had put out an album before, I wouldn’t have been relevant now.   


Soulja Boy:  Keep doing what you are doing, grind hard and don’t stop.  Find your own thing to do to rise to the top.  Personally, I used the tools of the Internet.  


Rich Boy:  I would advise them to be original and not listen to what they are playing on the radio.   
 

AllHipHop:  The South is killing Hip-Hop with all the snap music, comment? 


Red Café:  I don’t agree with that.  They are doing what they do.  The artists are coming out with songs embracing their culture.  People over here aren’t embracing the music.  That’s on us.  The people over here are being brainwashed.  We gotta do what we do over here.  We are killing everybody in every record.  No one is following our trend. We can’t blame it on the South, we just have to make better records.  The DJs and programmers, that’s an entirely different conversation, I was strictly speaking about the artists.     


Soulja Boy:  The South is giving people what they want to hear.  It doesn’t matter if it is snap music, or head clap, snare or whatever.  The result of Billboard sales is going to be what people want to hear.   


Rich Boy:  There are many reasons.  People aren’t paying attention, they are just focusing on Atlanta.  You’ve got the Hyphy movement.  All regions are contributing to Hip-Hop right now.  I don’t know why they are just labeling the South.  I don’t think it is just the South.  
 

AllHipHop: How did you manage to gain so much attention as an artist when so many new and renowned artists are struggling this year with album sales? 


Red Café:  It’s my character, people know that I’m real and embrace me.  I believe in myself and I stay consistent.   


Soulja Boy:  The videos, the music, the pictures.  I’ve tackled and touched on every subject you can talk about.  


Rich Boy:  Besides being different, having the perfect team.  A team really believed in me and went hard, put their life on the line.  You have to have a strong team that will not give up no matter what happens.     
 

AllHipHop:  In your opinion, do you think success will be easier or harder for your second album?   


Red Café:  Success would be easier for the second album because I already proved myself to radio and to people that were on the fence about me.  It takes going out there and busting your a**. 


Soulja Boy:  The first album they are looking for the underdog.  The second album, I am already here, and I would have been doing everything for a while and the listeners are going to be like “Well, what is he going to come with next?”  You have to come 200 times harder with the second album. 


Rich Boy:  I think I will be good because God shows me a lot of favoritism.  I really believe in God a lot. That’s all the places I give credit to because God carried me to this point. 
 

AllHipHop:  Do you think artists having their own sub-labels help or hinder the state of Hip-Hop? 


Red Café:  I think that is great because it brands the artist and gets the consumer involved with the brand.  It is almost necessary nowadays.  It’s hard to really answer that situation.  When signed to a big artist like that, you have a plus going for you anyway.  You are selling albums tagged to that man’s movement.  Timing is very
important.  I don’t want to put my album out when he isn’t hot anymore because I’ll definitely be hurting.  That’s a difficult way to answer that right there.


Soulja Boy:  They help a lot.  They bring their own style, group to the label.   


Rich Boy:  I think there are only supposed to be a few labels.  Like the NBA, only a few of them are going to make it.  Everybody got a basketball team but they’re not all NBA teams.   
 

AllHipHop:  Name three artists that have changed the state of Hip-Hop? 


Red Café:  Puffy – He made Hip-Hop commercial.  Puffy made a slew of radio friendly records that generated a lot of sales, and had a lot of number #1 albums.  Many people tried following him in his footsteps. Lil Jon – He changed the South with his album and many other Atlanta artists that he produced for such as Usher.  50 Cent – He made music really hardcore.  I think that is why so many New York artists tried to follow his example.  The only problem is I don’t want to hear fifteen year olds rapping about shooting people in their songs.  I don’t care if it’s real or bulls***t, I don’t want to hear it. 


Soulja Boy:  50 Cent – Because of how many albums he sold.  It encourages every artist to reach his or her goals. Young Jeezy – He was underground and too many people seem him grind for a long time until he finally made it big. Down South Music – They broke the barrier for a lot of other groups to get signed. They brought a completely new movement to the table.   


Rich Boy:  Lil Wayne –  He brought in the new generationJay-Z – Although T.I and Young Jeezy created a similar movement.  Master P – He put out No Limit albums in what seems like every month.


Comments

 

a.sea said:

1st...i finally did it
September 5, 2007 1:16 AM
 

kci said:

Y'all chose Red Cafe, Soulja boy, and Rich Boy to represent the new generation of rappers. No disrespect but lets be for real. The three of them wont go gold collectively.

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September 5, 2007 1:18 AM
 

dmack_k9 said:

NWA CHANGED HIP HOP. Rich Boy flow is nice. WTF with the no comments, HAHA
September 5, 2007 1:25 AM
 

a.sea said:

red was a credible source, and rich boy could e useful in a discussion like this. but what the f*ck were ya'll thinking even giving soulja boy the time. please.

it was funny how he had "no comment" for questions that basically put him out there as a wack a$$ artist.

is it just me or did it seem like red kinda went at him (soulja boy) a little when asked about the direction of hip hop.
September 5, 2007 1:36 AM
 

dmack_k9 said:

Oh ya Red is sick too. he got that street shit we need... the rest speaks for itself HA

http://www.myspace.com/k9bloodhound
September 5, 2007 2:01 AM
 

TYBOGGIE said:

**Red Cafe' is a Beast. His Flow is reminds me of Jay 's mixed with Obie Trice. And I like what he said about not compromising himself. Dude been grinding for awhile now. I remember him from EA Sports Sound Tracks.

**Not into the Soulja Boy Shit. (No Disrespect). But the shit is whack..

**Rich Boy. Yea I guess. I don't know.. Never heard a song by him.
September 5, 2007 3:47 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

I've heard a lot about Red Cafe though I haven't really heard none of his shit. I like Rich Boy's shit. His album was slept on.

Rich Boy... I don't like like the shit I've heard from him thus far. Another "dance" song... just what the game needs.....






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September 5, 2007 5:35 AM
 

LP2K said:

Red Cafe is a decent artist. dude can spit. he's been in the game for a grip too. i remember hearing him on a kay slay mixtape back when i was in high school like in 2001.

Rich boy has potential. havent heard much from him. i need to hear more to really be a believer.

soulja boy, not really into the whole rap songs that come with a dance music. i guess its good for the kids but not my cup of tea. he would have to show me lyrically what he has to offer.
September 5, 2007 7:09 AM
 

Slash said:

kci said:

Y'all chose Red Cafe, Soulja boy, and Rich Boy to represent the new generation of rappers. No disrespect but lets be for real. The three of them wont go gold collectively.

^^^^
ouch.
September 5, 2007 8:46 AM
 

allparish12 said:

Red Cafe...i havent heard anything by him, but the way he presented himself in the interview, makes me wanna take a listen and give him a chance

Rich Boy..i like dude..i think he is a lil different, but got caught up in pleasing the label with a couple of the joints on his album..he also gave a good interview

Soulja Boy..no comment..lol, that seemed to be his answer for everything..this dude will be looonng forgotten in 3yrs..and btw im from the south..and his shyt gets annoying after you hear it more than 3x, so people can stop generalizing saying everybody in the south like that kind of shyt!
September 5, 2007 9:09 AM
 

Mr.MDMP said:

Good interview, picced 3 people representing 3 different walks of hip-hop. Never heard of Red Cafe, he must be from the east. Rich Boy has some go, listen to the whole album and you'll see that. & Soljah Boy, quit hatin on that young man, that's the American Dream, he got to the big time from off his damn computer, aint gotta like the music, but respect the hustle

And to whoever did the interview FUCC U!!!! the south is not killin hip-hop we saved the bitch to be real. Snap music is an A-Town thang and represents only part of what we do in the south. I'm from Dallas so yes i'm biased about the dirty, but man if not for us hip-hop would be so muthafuccin boring right now. And not to mention we still have the best lyricist, story tellers, and G-shit the game has to offer. Anyone who thinks we killin hip-hop is #1 a commercial fan and only knows about what's on radio and T.V. and #2 Probably from N.Y. and just doin the hate thang as usual, i wonder if that chicken noodle soup or that aunt jackie shit woulda blew, what would ya'll say then. Ya'll have seen how we party, and we party best, but that's just the start as far as the south goes. We have ALOT of talent down here and when the game changes over and goes bacc to being based on substance and clever lines, we still goin run the game and alot of people will be suprised at the level of talent we have down here. Get use to us people, cuz the south ain't goin nowhere, we support eachother so atleast to us, we'll always be on the map. WHEW!!!!!! my bad, just tired of niggaz hatin the south, especially dem lame ass east coast niggaz who have no soul in thier music and wonder why people think they music is boring

QUIT HATIN DA SOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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September 5, 2007 9:25 AM
 

Fawn said:

No Comment.
September 5, 2007 9:39 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

Interviewer:  Is Soulja Boy a f*cking idiot?

Red Cafe:  I believe so, cause you know he dont know no better.  He a young cat.

Soulja Boy:  No Comment.

Rich Boy:  Yea, but it aint just his fault.  Everybody contributed to it.  It takes a village to raise a child.  I know me and Red had real talk and his comments sucked but what you expect from Mr. Supa man that hoe...

Interviewer:  Soulja Boy, are you just going to say no comment whenever I ask you any relevant to hip hop questions?

Soiulja Boy:  No Comment man, ask Red Cafe and Rich Boy.  I just wanna make more snap music.


(p.s.  Not the real convos that the stars had, just pretty much how I translated it.)


Hood Proph- Hate it or love it
September 5, 2007 9:46 AM
 

Skinny Long P said:

Red Cafe got my respect for putting in a lot of work.  Not really a fan of his joints but he's a good lyricist. Rich Boy also not one of the rappers I keep in rotation but he has good heart and melodies for this rap thang.  
But Soulja Boy knows he aint got no respect...he does do his thang (on the internet) promotion wise and go head and get the money lil homie...but he seems pretty ignorant and simple minded.  He has songs like Yah Bitch and Shootout (a dance in which you kill everyone around you on the dance floor).  He represents thooze "lost ones".  
Rich Boy and Red Cafe both realize what the game is and what it needz....and they don't really have that regional biase against others.  Im from the South and Soulja Boy is bout nothin...his songs are catchy for people who dont even think about what they are sayin and made for girls and lil boyz.
September 5, 2007 9:49 AM
 

Mr.MDMP said:

Man i think somebody at AHH is doing some hatin, post my comment to

Good interview, never heard of red cafe, sounds lame tho
Rich Boy album was off the chain, be a real fan of hip hop and not a commercial fan and listen to niggaz whole albums before judging them as an artist
& Quit hatin on Solja Boy, Young man went from being on his computer to havin a video on 106 & park top 5, no he won't be around long, but he has done some shit never done, some true hustla shit, truly living the American Dream. He did what u suppose to do wit myspace instead of makin it one lame ass chat room type thang

And once more, to the dude or chicc that did the interview from AHH, FUCC YOU!!!!!!!! the south is not killin hip-hop we savin this shit, and we AINT NEVER been hip-hop in the south no way, but we still saved the shit. Snap music is a small part of southern music and if its lame why the hell the east coast start copying wit the chicken noodle soups and aunt jackie ass records. We party best in the south so we make the best party music, but we have the most talent, period. If u r a commercial fan all you know is the dance shit. If you listen to music, not just watch T.V. u know the south is holdin and we not going nowhere, the game is changin bacc, but it still won't be the east coast that shines when it does, the south still gone run it because we have some lyrical animals  down here and what seperates us from ya'll lyricist is we still have soul, rhythm, we know how to rap to the beat while ya average east coast MC may have lyrical ability thier flow is boring, N.Y. 3 biggest M.C.'s all rap like they from the south (Biggie, Jay-Z, 50 cent)
They ride beats nice and don't have that same boring ass monotone flo thru out the whole damn song The south aint going nowhere, u reap what you sew. Ya'll hated on all the O.G.'s who put out real music and now we got the game on locc and ya'll have to just watch us do us, and it won't stop no time soon

"QUIT HATIN DA SOUTH"-UGK

now if you don't post this one i know you hatin, but yet and still whoever did the interview FUCC YOU, the south is savin this hip hop shit
September 5, 2007 9:49 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

...After reading HoodProph's comments, Soulja Boy had this to say:

Soulja Boy:  F*ck Hood Proph, him just mad cuz he cant snap crackle pop like me, now on a neva note hey fans...NOW WATCH ME YUUUULLLLEEEE!! (hope I didnt dummy you down too much to double my dollas, but uh ni@@a gotta eat).




-HP aka Mr. Hate it or Love it
September 5, 2007 9:55 AM
 

DBaker said:

Wow how could you NOT mention MIMS almost 400,000 sold worldwide yeah theres a lotta flack because of the single but truth be told ONLY Richboy & MIMS has been the only two rappers in 2007 ( New artist that is) to soundscan over 300,000 units.
September 5, 2007 9:58 AM
 

N.O. Hotboi 504 said:

Figgaz always hatin all them dudes are gettin mo money  give them boyz a break all cool except SOULJA BOY gotta see what he do as far as rappin goes he got the dance moves down Him and Hurricane Chris in the same boat on one hit wonders A BAY BAY Crank Dat Soulja Boy
September 5, 2007 10:08 AM
 

N.O. Hotboi 504 said:

QUIT HATIN THE SOUTH REAL TALK NY NAW MEEN B
September 5, 2007 10:12 AM
 

Mr.MDMP said:

@hoodgrown, i checced ya'll shit out and you niggaz SUCK!!!!!
real talk, not tryin to hate but you should never down talk another rapper in yo life from the north,south,east,or west. Ya'll on the exact type of shit that gets no love in the south, boring flo, boring beats, don't hate on nobody else, cuz u niggaz is trash, 4real
September 5, 2007 10:16 AM
 

reggiesmithnineclip said:

September 5, 2007 10:20 AM
 

ked35 said:

Quit hatin on Soulja Boy. he young he like 16 or something like that. he don't know no better
September 5, 2007 10:29 AM
 

Boss Up said:

Soulja Boy is an idiot, he won't be around next year...
September 5, 2007 10:39 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

AIight.. how do I respond to this asshole...
1. First, to each his own my dude... you don't have to like what I put out.. that's life

2. And if your ass can read... you would see that I didn't hate on the south dickhead.

I stated that I liked Rich Boy. He's from the south right? So how the fuck am I hating on the south!!!

3. I don't like Soulja Boy. So what!!!

If you don't like every artist from the South you're a hata????  Get the fuck outta here.

Or do you just like every artist from the south JUST BECAUSE HE'S FROM THE SOUTH??? If so, that makes you a dick rider!!!!

4. What the fuck do you care about what I like or dislike? There you go riding dicks again. If you gonna ride dick faggot.. make sure you change your panties before doing so.. cause it's not a good look...

dumbass.....







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September 5, 2007 10:45 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

oh.. and I checked out YOUR SHIT on myspace Mr.PenisMouth....
TRASH RAP.....

and u got the nerve to ride MY DICk...






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September 5, 2007 10:48 AM
 

trestarr said:

yeah i can understand havin red cafe n rich boy but soulja boi.... even tho he young n all he still wasnt needed 4 this interview.

check tha illest mc comin out of VA

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September 5, 2007 10:51 AM
 

Fawn said:

No comment.
September 5, 2007 10:53 AM
 

Calisgiftmusic.com said:

a.sea said:
it was funny how he had "no comment" for questions that basically put him out there as a wack a$$ artist.

So true lol He was the answer for both them questions

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September 5, 2007 10:54 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

All this south vs east coast stuff is so stupid.  Divide and conquer is that slave master tactic that still ruins the Black Man today (dont matter what region he from).  Who needs 'The Man' to hold us down anymore, we got it all under control.  Meanwhile the jewish and european bred caucasian record label execs make money no matter where the music shifts (east, west, south, midwest).  So they get two birds with one stone (keep the power in the hands of the haves, and divide and conquer the have nots).  Nothing more sad than seeing 95% of people argue over bread crumbs that fall off the table, meanwhile the other 5% enjoy the loaf on the table...God Bless America.

@ked35
I feel you on soulja boy, he a young dude making songs for the kids.  He aint the blame, its these radio stations and record labels.  We adults share the radio with the kids, I dont want to here that all day.  Them advertisers who pay for radio are paying to suck the life out of my brain too, not just the young kids.

Wheres the radio for the guy not old enough to want to listen to steve harvey radio all day, but not young enough to want to hear all that snap music either?

America still hasnt built a haven for the young intelligent Black Male.  Theres more and more of us so this is sure to change.


-HP
September 5, 2007 10:55 AM
 

stayhumble said:

Soulja Boy is a fucking idiot and needs to be in school!  Didn't public schools start yesterday? I dont care about him getting 10 million hits on myspace-thats just alot more ignorance than we can explain!  THANKS NAS......HIP HOP IS 6 FT UNDER!!!!!  At least Rich Boy has some type of brain capacity!  Red has been doing it for a while and he;ll get his chance!  Just stop all ignorant hip hop-Soulja Boy, Hurricane Kris, D4L, etc....
September 5, 2007 11:01 AM
 

RedCoat said:

I respect Rich Boy  music
The south has something to say

The Mighty Network Coming Soon
September 5, 2007 11:05 AM
 

Jaybëëzle said:

New Generation huh? Red Cafe is the only one I got respect for...who the fuck are the other 2? We'll be watchin Soulja Boy & Rich Boy on VH1 2 years from now on a special of...

'1 Hit Wonders....The New Generation'
September 5, 2007 11:07 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

rereading my original post... I see why  
Mr.MDMP  thought I was hating on the south... I typed:


"Rich Boy... I don't like like the shit I've heard from him thus far. Another "dance" song... just what the game needs..... "

when I meant to type

"Soulja Boy... I don't like like the shit I've heard from him thus far. Another "dance" song... just what the game needs..... "

September 5, 2007 11:10 AM
 

LP2K said:

Hey look, im doing "the souljah boy"


"No Comment"
September 5, 2007 11:11 AM
 

RedCoat said:

RIch Boy - I fucks with dat yung boy he got some real shit to say listen to ' Lets Git Dis Paper on his album " before you judge him

Red cafe- Never heard of him the Red I know is Yung Coat

Souljah Boy - I like da dance buts its really some mediocre shit
basically the shit iz weak


New RedCoat Coming soon


September 5, 2007 11:11 AM
 

the_dboy417 said:

Soulja Boy I'm about 99.9999999 percent sure will be a 1 hit wonder. Red Cafe may never blow as an artist but he'll get money with his writing ability. Rich Boy to me has kinda already proved himself. He may not have put up monster numbers but then again who has?
September 5, 2007 11:13 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

to reiterate....

RICH BOY I'm feeling. I think he has an album that was slept on.







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September 5, 2007 11:17 AM
 

King1122 said:

@:Mr.MDMP
Biggie, Jay-Z, and 50 rap like they from down south?  

50 is top 3 from NY?  

lmao, that was pretty damn funny.  I don't know why yall south dudes think NY hates on the south, cause we don't.  There are lots of MCs from the south with substance.  But most of them don't get spins, just like NY MCs, or west coast MCs.  If the game is boring, then you're listening to the radio too much.  For example, Dead Prez, Three 6, and UGK been out for over 10 years, and just started getting spins(except Dead Prez).  These dudes got something to say, but thats not whats being pushed right now.  Thats the problem.  Soulja Boy should not get air time.  That is strictly some club shit.  We all being force fed catchy bullshit.  

In music, people with something to say usually either talk about whats going on around them, or the big picture.  Now, we are being programed to lay down, and act like everything is all fun and games.  Our situation as a society is grim, and it don't have shit to do with regional wars, or who's better than who.  I could care less who anyone else thinks is the best, cause everyone is entitled to their own opinion.  

Music is the voice of the people...a battle cry for the struggle.  'Media' (I'll call it that for now) is taking that away from us.  They use propaganda to turn us against each other and shift our awareness of whats going on around us.  We need unity now more than ever, yet blacks have segregated ourselves from eachother.  Classic divide, and conquer.  'Quit hatin on the south', east, west, and quit hatin on eachother.  It goes both ways family.  Open your mind to whats real.
September 5, 2007 11:19 AM
 

Cinatra said:

Bottom line, if the major labels think its hot, its hot. It does'nt matter if its from the south, west,north, south, wherever!!!! They control the game. If they want the south to blow, then guess what, you may just get a deal even if the streets think its garbage. wanna talk about changing the game, all due goes to Master P. I know, a few people might question that statement. P started No Limit with 10 grand, managed to con Priority into giving him a distribution deal. Then he actually paid Priority to press up releases. That allowed him to keep 100% of album sales. so a no limit artist that sold 200,000 cd's got more paper than Mase going platinum. Did anybody stop and think how the hell Master P ended up on the Forbes list at #16, two slots above Diddy in 97-98? P opened the doors for all of these independent labels we have now. The problem is, the major labels trying to cater to the street. and when that happens, the exposure is limitless. Thats why Hammer popped of like he did; cause he got with one of the giants. He could have been from anywhere on earth and it would'nt have mattered cause he sold millions thanks to the mainstream hip hop audience, white kids 10-25yrs. That is what has guided hip hop. The giants will put you on, but the streets will keep you relevant. case in point, whatever happened to D4L?, Dem franchise boys? Some artists get money of the latest trend and fall back. not hatin by any means, I mentioned these two groups because I personally have'nt heard anything from them since 06. But at that time, you could turn on the radio without hearing laffy taffy or ohh I think they like me!! But you look at the artists from the south that stay relevant, none of em got a lot of love at the start of there careers. Scarface, UGK, T.I., Outkast, Jeezy. All of em had the streets before they were invading white suburbia. Scarface can drop an album tommorrow and everybody on the block would know, from Cali to Japan. Thats what happens when your true fan base follows the movement of an artist and not the fad behind the artist.
September 5, 2007 11:25 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

@Cinatra

Very True....





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September 5, 2007 11:29 AM
 

Mr.MDMP said:

@hoodgrown

Never said you was hatin on the south, now i don't post on here often, but i read alot and everytime its a post you be commenting on everybody like you some kind of leading authority or like you got some go, so i checced you out and u niggaz succ fa real. Don't understand how you seem to always rate the next man when you have no go what-so-ever. And if they from the south i will show love and respect the hustle, not dicc ridin but its a south thang u wouldn't understand. We know how hard it was for us to rise to prominence on a national scene, so whenever anybody get on we respect it. Soljah Boy make club music and the women shake it hard to dat shit, dat's what its for, nothin more nothin less. What else you wanna hear in the club, sho'll the hell not no Hoodgrown shit, and ya'll tried to make a club song and that shit succed, why knocc soljah boy if you tryin to make the same type of songs.

And for the record pimpin, you know i'm KILLIN yo shit,(i know u know im killin yo shit) & only faggots stay tryin to call somebody else a faggot, i just said you niggaz trash, no disrespect to ya manhood or nothin like that, u niggaz just can't rap, and if what you do is real hip-hop, then hip hop is dead, & it ain't never comin bacc. Fake ass internet thug ass nigga, get real

@King1112,

Hell yeah they rap like they from the south, the way they ride beats, the old school samples, and they whole swag is more southern than east coast. Remember Jay even said his favorite group in rap was UGK, now i agree that the folks with somethin to say really ain't gettin no spins and that its all designed to make us weaker, but its not soljah boy fault the radio stay playin this shit, and ive always been an underground rap type nigga myself, and hell yeah u niggaz music is boring, from top to bottom, no soul, just robot soundin muthafuccas who picc wacc beats and then can barely stay on beat, ya'll got some good people up there, but the south has ya'll beat by a longshot
my mind is open to what's real, but from fake ass internet bloggers to ya'll rappers and d.j.'s ya'll be hatin, and the more the south come up the more ya'll shout hip hop is dead, its no surprise because ya'll hated on the west once they rose up too. Ya'll just some jealous bitches and what's real is regional divide will always be here because its differences in every region. When we was forced to listen to NY music all day and see nothin but NY videos, we didn't hate, we just got on our hustle and got it nigga, and for the record, we will always support each other down here

as always before i bounce,
QUIT HATIN DA SOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 5, 2007 11:35 AM
 

Fly Boi said:

Rich boy CD is a beast. And some people may not like Souljah Boy, but who cares, cuz when that song comes on in the club, everybody gets bucked.
September 5, 2007 11:47 AM
 

Mr.MDMP said:

@ Cinatra, now that was real talk, i just want folks to respect the south and know that dance is not all we about, we got real talent down here, and in the south more than any other region in America you can make money without a "giant" behind you because we are loyal and we "listen" to music, its so many indies down here and niggaz is owning houses, cars, and supportin they family off music in the south without a major, and we quicc to reject whatever a major throw our way, if we don't like it, we don't like it, if we feel it, we bump it, point blank period, the south where its at fa real and just wish people would stop throwin that dance shit on us, and about DFB & D4L, them niggaz will be bacc, after you get over exposed like that you suppose to dip off for a minute then come bacc fresh, & Faibo been poppin up on verses lately.If you ran ALL of 2006, in 2007 you suppose to take a break, spend ya money, & come bacc after people say what happened to ya

and 1 more time for the hataz on AHH,
QUIT HATIN DA SOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 5, 2007 11:48 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

@hoodgrown

", but i read alot and everytime its a post you be commenting on everybody like you some kind of leading authority or like you got some go, so i checced you out and u niggaz succ fa real. Don't understand how you seem to always rate the next man when you have no go what-so-ever."

Stupid bitch. That's what the fuck it's for. To post comments. Hell, it does say "comments" below. In case you haven't noticed dickhead everyone is posting opinions. So fucking what. Yes, I post my opinions and will continue to do so regardless of what a faggot like you may think.

But I see, you picked me out of the line up. You're watching me from a far, huh, like some type of deviant stalker. I see or a love struck school girl. Wow!!! What a bitch!!


"And if they from the south i will show love and respect the hustle, not dicc ridin but its a south thang u wouldn't understand."

"We know how hard it was for us to rise to prominence on a national scene, so whenever anybody get on we respect it. Soljah Boy make club music and the women shake it hard to dat shit, dat's what its for, nothin more nothin less. What else you wanna hear in the club

It is DICK RIDING.. because just because they from the south doesn't mean they're good. Just like just because a nigga from the east means he's good. Or on broader terms.. yeah I love my (black) people but that doesn't mean I have to like all the dumb shit that niggas do.


"sho'll the hell not no Hoodgrown shit",

Wow... still riding my dick. Well keep it up bitch cause all you doing is sending more traffic my way.

" Fake ass internet thug ass nigga"

Far from it dick head. I don't go starting shit. If you would have never put my name in your little faggot as post then we wouldn't even be having this conversation at all.

oh yeah.....

I do get love from the south...

everytime I visit your mother's house.. you bitch!






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September 5, 2007 11:51 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

 
"Fly Boi said:
Rich boy CD is a beast. And some people may not like Souljah Boy, but who cares, cuz when that song comes on in the club, everybody gets bucked. "


See I can respect that. Cause you understand that everyone might not like the song... and your attitude is SO WHAT. WHich is real.
September 5, 2007 11:54 AM
 

King1122 said:

@Mr.MDMP-

You missed the point completely....Maybe it's over your head.  

Dude's from the south like you keep that dumb ass "Quit Hatin" shit alive.  Nas said a simple statement, and that HipHop is dead.  Y'all took it upon yourself to think he meant the south killed hiphop.  The south doesn't reflect all of hiphop.  The game in general is fucked up.  That whole hatin shit is corny, cause don't hate no body.  People like you do the most hatin...
September 5, 2007 11:54 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

imagine this people...(if I could only draw, it would be more powerful)


A white family sitting at the dinner table.  Two little white kids (boy and girl), a white mother, and a white father.  White father just smiling from ear to ear, happy that hes king on his thrown and able to provie for his family.  Looking at the huge loaf of bread on the table (he has fork and knife in his hand).  Little white boy in his own little world about to plunge a piece of his bread  at his little sister with his spoon (he has so much bread he can afford to throw some away).  The little girl asked her father if she can have another piece of bread.  Daddy's little girl always gets what she wants.  And finally mother is looking at the floor, completely shocked and awed by what she sees.

What she sees is roaches on the floor arguing over bread crumbs:

roach 1:  roach, I been waiting here all this time for some of them white folks to drop one of these crumbs, you better move a way from it homie.  Dont start nothing wont be nothing.

roach 2:  Oh its about to go down up in here.  Just cause you got prettier antennas, you think you deserve the first bite of this here crumb.

roach 1:  Dont hate on my antennas dog.  You just mad, cause they always step on your kind first.  Get your antennas up homie and you'll survive a little bit longer.  But enough of all that, Imma have to bust yo ass up in here if you dont step away from this crumb.

roach 2:  its all good I aint worrying about it.  I'll just wait.  Imma keep on praying to God to get prettier antennas and my own bread crumb.  Eventually God gone feel sorry enough for me and give me a handout.  I mean after all it aint like God got better stuff to do then sit around and wait for me to pray about materialistic simple shit.

roach 1:  Yea true that.  But lets fight anyway, cause Im still worked up from all this fuss.  Plus we roaches, I mean aint that what we should be doing?

roach 2:  Yea my roach, Imma roach for life, ROACH LIFE!! in this bitch.  (With that roach 2 threw up some roach gang signs and punched roach 1 in the face, then stole the bread crumb)

roach 3:  (Roach 3 didnt engage in any of the drama.  As roach1 and roach2 were fighting, he just climbed up one of the table legs to get him a piece of the larger piece of bread).

narrator:  (good luck to roach 3 as he tries to pry some of that bread out of the hands of those white folks.  But his alternative I guess, would be engage in the fight between roach 1 and 2.)

roach 4:  Just sat back and watched roach 1, 2, and 3 do there thing.  He didnt feel that he should do either.  So being indecisive and stressed because of it, he lifted one of his wings and pulled out a "L" and a bag of tree and did what he does best.


Narrator:  As all of this unfolded, white mother alerted the family to what was going on.  She especially wanted the children to see.  She wanted to make sure they knew how she never wanted them to turn out.  She always made sure that the kids didnt watch the roaches with out her or white father's consent.  They could never watch them after 8pm, and without her or white father being around of course to "interpret".  White father didnt engage too much in what was going on on the floor with roach 1, 2, and definitely not 4.  he was more concerned with watching as roach 3 was climbing the table leg coming near what he felt was his rightfully owned bread.  So he busied himself with debate iver rather he would give roach 3 an incentive/road block piece of bread to keep him busy or would he just squash him.  Cause I mean after all, in white fathers eyes, he was just a roach...(to be continued)





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-Hood Prophet  (aka Mr. hope I live longer than Malcolm did)  
September 5, 2007 11:57 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

"When we was forced to listen to NY music all day and see nothin but NY videos, we didn't hate."

And if you read my past post like you say you did.. you'd know that I totally agree with the statement and have spoke on that as well.

so don't read a few post and then act like you know me...






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September 5, 2007 11:59 AM
 

j4mixx said:

soulja, rich, and red got good songs out there right now but just like "boss up" said it 'they wont be around next year' like soulja. but as for rich and red they only come around when they have a hit than they fall back.
September 5, 2007 12:03 PM
 

Fawn said:

No comment.
September 5, 2007 12:08 PM
 

Fly Boi said:

 @Mr.MDMP - You spoke the truth about the South!!! I rep the down bottom all day (504 Boi), but I gotta show luv for Hoodgrown, he's one of the East Coast cats that don't hate on the South. He usually has a non biased opinion and you gotta respect that.
September 5, 2007 12:13 PM
 

Mr.MDMP said:

Man damn hoodgrown, u r very sensitive and i must have hit a spot wit yo ass, and all ur comebaccs are very junior high type shit, only reason i called you out is because you have a comment on every muthafuccin post and you are in no positon to try and call another trash based on the music i heard from you, real talk. And how you not a internet thug wit comments like everytime you go to my "mother's" house, man get real pimp, is that the best you can do? If that ain't young actin i don't know what is, but just to show you what a real nigga do i'm still not going to take any shots at you personally, ya music is just trash. And I never said i thought solja boy was good, just respect the young niggaz hustle, and if havin respect for a niggaz huslte is dicc ridin to you then you will never make it because no one will respect yours, like Fly Boi said, when it come on in the club it gets crunk, and that's all its for. Now look at how you act when somebody says somethin about your music, but you feel its cool to "comment" on everyone else's music? Very sensitive indeed, quit showin ya gay tendencies playa wit all that gay talk, Fake ass internet thug ass nigga

@King1112
Aint nothin go over my head playa, that's what i be talkin about right there, actin like people from the south is dumb, we can't be that dumb because we eatin good below the Mason Dixon. No the south doesn't reflect all of hip hop but its no coincidence that sence the south has been on the rise ya'll shoutin that hip hop is dead shit, & it comes from more than just a simple statement from Nas. Kay-Slay,Pappoose, Funk Master Flex, and even the muthafucca who did this interview all have taken shots at the south  "AllHipHop:  The South is killing Hip-Hop with all the snap music, comment? " What the fucc is that? How the hell am i keepin up the hate talk wit comments like those, if that's never said then folks from the south would never trip. Truth be told we have NEVER liked what ya'll call hip hop, the shit has always been lame to us, alright b, a yo kid u know what i mean god-all that shit is shit we make fun of and have been doing so for a long time now. Pimp C said it best, we make country rap tunes and we happy wit who we are as a people. One more time just in cased you missed it, I AGREED wit the fact that alot of shit is being forced on us thru radio & T.V., and I AGREED that all regions have some people that can go, but the south is not killin this shit, we savin it 4real, and we only gettin better, and once the game shifts bacc to content, we still ain't goin nowhere, we got too much talent down here. And even when the nation stops fuccin wit the south, we'll do what we always have done, support our own music and show love to the next amn on his hustle. Until NY can stop beefin eit eachother and be grown ass men and show love to the ones around em, ya'll best hope will stay 50 cent(who raps like he's from the south) The game is fucced up, but the south is still doing thangs right, if people step up they game and checc out more than what's on TV and radio, they'd know that

Scarface,UGK,Outkast,Z-Ro,T.I.,Young Dro,Trae,Tum-Tum,Mr.Lucci,Mr.Pookie, BallPlayaENT, Rob G, Rich Boy, Tricc Daddy, Ricc Ross, Young Jeezy, Juvinille, Lil Wayne, B.G., Chopper City Boys, Lil Boosie,Lil Webbie, Jody Breeze, 8Ball & MJG, Foxx, and to many other muthafuccaz to name right now. If you want substance go checc out any one of theze cats, and don't give me no bullshit bout "Wipe Me Down" cuz if that's all u know Bossie and Webbie for, you don't know shit

Now i'm bout to go grind like im suppose to so ONE MORE TIME b4 i go

QUIT       HATIN     DA     SOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh yeah, since i'm on here

Playa Mayd's President 2: 2nd Term (double CD) drops September 28th, not a mixtape a profesional album wit over 30 traxx of original music

http://myspace.com/playamayd





September 5, 2007 12:39 PM
 

black maybe said:

this nigga(rich boy) 4 head, damn!

September 5, 2007 12:41 PM
 

Mr.MDMP said:

@Fly Boi, man all i can do is spit the truth cuz i love where i stay and i'm tired of niggaz gettin mad just cuz theze dudes is gettin money and they not, and ya boy hoodgrown may not be a hata, i never said he was, just said i checced his music out and his shit SUCCS, so he should be more carefull next time he talkin down on any cat that raps and is on his hustle, because he is trash 4real, never called him a hata, just called him trash and he's not one who should be rating anybody. And you from the south so u know what it is, Dirty South Hustlin all day long, stay up pimp
September 5, 2007 12:47 PM
 

King1122 said:

@ Fly Boi-

I can't front like that Soulja Boy shit dont make the club go crazy.  It's a perfect for the club, but radio can play some other shit besides playin it 50 times a day.  It gets old pretty quick.  We need all type of rap, not just one.
September 5, 2007 12:55 PM
 

SinRoc187 said:

myspace.com/warfieldaotentertainment

The NORTH, SOUTH, EAST WEST....WHO GIVES A SHIT?? Hip hop purist KNOW good music when it's heard. OUTKAST, CEE-LO, TRICK DADDY, THE OL' UGK, SCARFACE, GETO BOYS, OL' MC EIHT, DJ QUIK, NWA, PAC, BIG, KOOL G. RAP BIG DADDY KANE, JAY-Z, EMINEM, TWISTA, SNOOP, JUVENILE, LIL WAYNE TIP, COMMON......Man the list goes on and on. And I'm from NY!!! get off that crabs n a barrel mentality. if u dance to dat Soulja Boy shit, go ahead. Chicks might dig it. Focus on the music you can enjoy and not what these outlets try to force feed u. My kids will have a strong broad sense of real HIP-HOP, taught by none other than ME (HIP -HOP since '86) !!!

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September 5, 2007 1:00 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

RANDOM THOUGHT!!!

imagine this people...(if I could only draw, it would be more powerful)


A white family sitting at the dinner table.  Two little white kids (boy and girl), a white mother, and a white father.  White father just smiling from ear to ear, happy that hes king on his thrown and able to provide for his family.  Looking at the huge loaf of bread on the table (he has fork and knife in his hand).  Little white boy in his own little world about to plunge a piece of his bread at his little sister with his spoon (he has so much bread he can afford to throw some away).  The little girl asked her father if she can have another piece of bread.  Daddy's little girl always gets what she wants.  And finally mother is looking at the floor, completely shocked and awed by what she sees...

What she sees is roaches on the floor arguing over bread crumbs:

roach 1:  roach, I been waiting here all this time for some of them white folks to drop one of these crumbs, you better move away from it homie.  Dont