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David Banner: Man on Fire 
Published Wednesday, August 22, 2007 4:59 PM
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    Every so often, an artist drops the formalities and speaks freely. David Banner, who's always been known for his candor, finds a way to even shock those who might know him best. As southern charm only gets one so far, Banner openly proclaims that his album is better than yours - whomever you may be. Equally, the Mississippi veteran wants to measure bank accounts, talent, ability, and charity in the balance too. Like the Jay-Z lyric, Banner believes he will not lose.

In a beefy discussion on God and glory, the Crooked Lettaz frontman turned super-producer, benefactor and man-of-the-people isn't short on harsh words for his critics or on adjectives for himself. As he puts it, sometimes one has to speak their own destiny for it to come true.

David Banner has been polite for too long. Although his compassion remains intact, his humility vanishes as AllHipHop.com witnesses a man with a fiery glow in his eyes and conviction in his heart. The Greatest Story Ever Told may be just thought, and perhaps this interview, which skewers Reverends Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton, reveals Banner's mental health, and champions many bold claims, is just the prologue.

AllHipHop.com: You’re a respected rapper, a sought after producer, and you recently got into acting. One role in particular I was curious about is you reading for the new Batman movie. What was your audition like?

David Banner: My thing is… anytime I step into the room, I say, "David Banner is..." I say that because, in my understanding of religion, God spoke the world into existence. Same way T.I. told fools he was the king and everybody was [saying] "what?" Lil' Wayne told everybody he was the best rapper alive since Jay-Z retired, [and] look at [them] now. You've got to speak your destiny. A lot of us allow people to [add] their own opinions of what we're going to be. No, I'm telling you what I'm going to be. I'm speaking my destiny. I'm smashing these fools this year.

AllHipHop.com: So will we be seeing you in a Batman movie sometime soon?

David Banner: I really don't know what happened with that but I'm pretty sure at this point if they ain't call me, it's probably a negative. But the movie s**t...I caught a real bug on that s**t. That's all I want to do right now. That s**t feels like when I did my first talent show when I was in the sixth grade. As rappers, they beat that s**t out of us, man. I tell people you have to get the most out of every situation. That fact that I was even considered for a movie like Batman is crazy for someone like me. People don't know I went to acting school before my first three albums. I was turning down roles until I felt I was ready. Like, I tell kids all the time, "You can't just pop up and think you're the best at something. You need practice. You can't think you're going to the NBA if you've never shot a jumpshot in your life. It just don't happen." I work hella hard. The movie/acting thing is my baby right now. I love L.A. That's where my baby is at.

AllHipHop.com: Will it ever come to a point where you won’t concern yourself with music anymore and just focus on movies?

David Banner: The music industry has changed. There's too many b***hes in the game, too many b***h ass n***as, and too much bad business. I know I'm one of the most talented n***as to ever do this s**t. There may be somebody who can do a beat better than me, maybe a couple n***as that can rap better than me, may be one that perform better than me, but there's no one that can do it all from the studio to the stage better. If they put a bunch of n***as in a room and see who can do the best in every category, I don't think there's many that can see me. We're about to start a new religion called Bannerism.

AllHipHop.com: So do you feel like you’re not getting recognized for your artistry or showmanship?

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David Banner: I think, as southerners, people don't listen to our albums for lyricism. They don't listen to how we construct our albums with stuff like live bass players. Like, my arrangement alone, the way I arranged everything on this album is genius. The fact is, a lot of n***as don't want that from David Banner. As much as they say they want us to take rap to another level, no, they want their favorite rapper to take it to the next level. Well, whoever your favorite rapper is, e-mail them and say, “David Banner is the s**t.” Tell them I said my album is better than yours. I'm telling y’all what it is this year. If you don't fall in line you're going to miss the boat. I'm the greatest story ever told and if you don't get down with it now you're goin to have to pay for it later either with money or getting it kicked out of their ass.

AllHipHop.com: So it’s a respect thing no just you being bitter?

David Banner: Nah, I ain’t tripping. A lot of people lifted a lot of s**t from me. I'm not the type of rapper/producer to b***h and moan about whoever bit my style. I hate that. If you're so dope and you did what you said you did you can do it again. Jay-Z said the dopest s**t: "You said you made me, make another Hov." That was one of the most epic lines I heard in life. If you're as dope as you said you were and somebody bit you're s**t, make a new style. Let them bite but this time, you take ownership of what you did. I watched R&B producers take my s**t, slow it down and make more money off of it than I did. When it comes to producing I showed producers how to brand their name. Who started putting their name in the beats? Who taught producers to put their names before their beats? I'm not tripping but this year I demand a certain level of respect.

AllHipHop.com: You mentioned earlier that you feel you’re more blessed than talented. Is that why you put so much effort into giving back?

David Banner: My personal thing is that it's not a rapper's responsibility to give back; it's your responsibility as a man. That's the kind of man I was when I was in the streets. I always gave back. That's how I was when I was teaching. I always gave back to my kids. That's the kind of rapper I am because that's the kind of man I am. People always say, "Some of these rappers be acting like b***hes." Well, that's because they are b***hes. Some people say, "These rappers get big and change." No, they were always like that. The money and fame let them be who they really are.

AllHipHop.com: So as a people, you feel we should look out for each other, not just entertainers?

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David Banner: We don't protect ourselves that's why America crucifies young Black men and nobody comes to their rescue, not even their own people. Michael Vick, why isn't anyone standing up for that man? Akon, it wasn't his fault a 14 year-old girl got into a club. It's not his responsibility to card everybody. He was in an adult club where we do adult s**t. And the funny thing is, we like it. People want [sex] and violence. Then we'll sit there and watch when someone gets in trouble for it. I can't stand Al Sharpton or Jesse Jackson. Al Sharpton looks like a fat pimp. Our own "leaders" treat us worse than the people who try to condemn us. I'm not just talking about Black people, I'm talking about poor people. If you got a problem with my music, see me. You don't have to call us out and embarrass us in front of all of America. I'm the child. Y’all are supposed to be teaching me. What if I didn't know any better. Don't stomp my CDs and talk bad about me. Some of these other "leaders," these old, Black people who ain't standing for their people, their standing for whoever endorses them. They don't stand up for their children because they don't want to lose their contributions or their endorsement money. You Black and you're helping to crucify your children but you won't stand up when Bush is f**king up America. It's easy to crucify a young, Black man because no one stands up for us. Oprah too. She acts like she ain't even a n***a no more. Tell her put me on her show. I’ll slap the f**k out of Jesse Jackson’s son. I can’t lay hands on Jesse Jackson because I believe in respecting my elders, but I’ll f**k Jesse Jackson’s son up.

AllHipHop.com: Some people might feel that’s a harsh statement…

David Banner: God is freedom; God is just, God is right. I don't believe God wants us to be "yes men." God wants us to be soldiers. He wants us to love as hard as we fight.

AllHipHop.com: You’ve kind of been on and off the radar for the last few years. What are some of the things that were going on during that period?

David Banner: Last year was the worst year of my life. I went through hell. I realized that we have to look at life for what it is. Everything that I've said might seem like I'm joking but I'm serious. I don't like Al Sharpton, I do look better than you, and I am filthy rich. I do have one of the best rap albums you've heard in the last three years. A n***a may have a couple songs that's better than mine but my album is smashing n***as. T.I. said something to the effect of "N***as was balling when they should've been focusing." That s**t hit my heart. While all these n***as are messing around and bulls**tting, I been focused. And here I am coming back with one of the best albums you'll ever hear.

AllHipHop.com: With the industry being more focused on having the hit song versus the dope album, how do you think you’ll do when your album comes out?

David Banner: If you have a dope album all your singles are going to be dope too. That's the problem: n***as have good albums at best. Like "Speak" is my throwaway single. That's got Snoop, Akon, and Lil’ Wayne on it. That's my, “Here you go, take that to the radio.” That would be most people’s lead single, but that's nothing to me. That's my gross display of wealth. I got them and [paid them all] in one shot. I got all the people on my single that you can't afford on your album. And even if you got the money they won't f**k with you because you're a lame. I got all them on my single because it's nothing to me. I know my album is going to do good. But if you choose to not respect what I'm doing then it's your fault and your loss because I'm cool.

AllHipHop.com: So you’re not concerned with the hype surrounding first week sales?

David Banner: People get caught up in the rap and in the money, but I just lost my daddy. It got so bad I didn't even listen to music. I hated music. I stayed on tour for three years. You think I give a f**k about what these n***as think? We forget about life and the state of our communities. I threw the biggest urban relief concert in history. I made history. Some n***as die and all they are is a song. I 'm an executive producer, I'm starting businesses, I got a cartoon on Cartoon Network. How many n***as can even go into the Cartoon Network building? This rap s**t is my play thing. It's nothin’ to me.

AllHipHop.com: You spoke about losing your father not too long ago yet here you are joking and full of energy. How are you able to go on like this?

David Banner: I went to two pastors for counseling. Like rappers don't be honest with people. I'll be honest with y’all. They was trying to put me on medication. I was going to sleep by reading Bible passages and drinking bottles of Nyquil. I wouldn’t sleep like three or four days out of the week. My pastor was like, “You can't save everybody.” I was trying to put my people on, I'm trying to single-handedly rep Mississippi, and I'm trying to be the number one pusher for Katrina. I'm not Red Cross. Two different pastors had to sit me down and tell me, "You are not Jesus. You can't save everyone. Let that s**t go." If I can help, I will. If I can't, I let it go. All these negative people get away from me. I only want positivity around me. Everyone that messed with me from the beginning, all the DJs and the magazines, come around me. I’m f**king with y’all. Everybody else can take a number. I'll be in Tahiti somewhere walking around naked. If I feel like this rap music is about to do me in, I'll let it go. I will move back to Mississippi with my mama and work at Stop-N-Go and be happy.


Comments

 

C.Rogers said:

D.Banner needs to start talking like this on his album...
August 22, 2007 8:45 PM
 

BayBOI said:

I don't care what any hater says...this is a real a$$ ni**a. If there were 1,000 ni**a's in every state of this country that was built like this ni**a...Black people would be in a lot better position.

Say what you want, do what you do haters. Tremendous article.

August 22, 2007 9:01 PM
 

SnappyPop said:

That old David Banner is creeping back with some hard truth. I'm copping that album
August 22, 2007 9:14 PM
 

hotrock11 said:

This whole interview is quotable....

"It's easy to crucify a young, Black man because no one stands up for us. Oprah too. She acts like she ain't even a n***a no more. Tell her put me on her show. I’ll slap the f**k out of Jesse Jackson’s son. I can’t lay hands on Jesse Jackson because I believe in respecting my elders, but I’ll f**k Jesse Jackson’s son up."

.......WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


But really though, I've been typing this for a LONG time. He has so much respect in MS that when he's on the local news, he's labeled as an "entertainer" or "musician" - NOT RAPPER OR "THUG". That's a subtle way of letting people know that he's respected. You know how 'they' do 'us' whenever a rapper is on TV...."Gangsta rap artist Snoop Dogg...."

His cockiness just ensured that I will buy his album. Certified needed it and was lacking it (though some of those tracks were fire)

I just hope Banner puts Boosie back on again.
August 22, 2007 9:14 PM
 

K.Ray said:

It will be forever needed for an artist to stand on something. What is music if it stands for nothing? We're in a vortex at the moment where poor ghetto kids become rich and famous from well to do rich executives and will listen to what ever they tell them because they supposedly hold the "road map". Those that choose a different path are usually "underground". There are no black leaders, they've abandoned us for "white" acceptance. They want to be viewed as responsible and since the popular consensus says that blacks are not responsible they go out of their way to show different. They end up as ambulance chasers in the end because they truly stand for nothing, they're just looking for their next publicity opportunity. Al and the rest should be ashamed for the way they've acted as puppets against the true cause. The truth of the matter is - they won't -

K.Ray*
All Day
The New Beginning
August 22, 2007 10:16 PM
 

Just Joey said:

God is the Light!!! BLESS YOU DAVID BANNER!! 202 DC 202
August 22, 2007 10:21 PM
 

MaccMan said:

Man atleast there is one rapper standing up for real shit...im interested in seeing what he will address on this album.. He business moves have bee so greatly spread out and lucrative people dont even realixe how much of a boss he is right now. Hopefully he can help other artists in the south get and keep thier game tight cuz it is so sour down there right now...No substance no creativity..dances and here day day gone by night "anthems"
August 22, 2007 10:26 PM
 

mikecoy said:

Mr. Crump’s acting lessons have certainly paid off.  He sounds as if he attended the WWE School of acting.  Mr. McMahan should be proud of his student.  He’d make a great wrestler one day (Mississippi Sambo).  

Now we see that the whole Sharpton, Jackson attacks were all about getting buzz for his new album.  I guess he didn’t have balls to copy 50 and attack another rapper to get buzz.  Instead he makes a punk move and attacks a woman and two old men.  Now that’s gangster!  He’s hard.    

Did he make the list of RAP MONEY MEN?  

It appears that he feels very special that the white people at cartoon network will only allow him(most favored negro) to enter there offices.  “Boss” loves him.  

This man is a typical southern negro that has yet to overcome the slave mentality.  He airs out black elders but shows love to Bill O’Riley who is a sworn enemy of rappers.  Where was Mr. Crump when Twista recently lost his gig with the Mickey D’s because of O’Riley protesting rappers?  Absent!  He knows better than to air out a white man.  He also knows that O’Riley will have his nuts cut at the cartoon network if he even thinks about airing him out.  

Funny how blacks are gangsta and thugged out with each other but will never ever get gangster or disrespectful with their white employers (owners)!          
 
August 22, 2007 10:40 PM
 

BayBOI said:

@mikecoy

U are talking out of your a$$. You got sh*tcrumbs on your lips knucklehead.

B4 you speak...you need to at LEAST listen to Mississppi the album and Certified...cuz it's very apparent you know nothing about DB but this article you read and the recent headlines. Educate yourself b4 tearing down a real ni**a.

And you are absolutley wrong....this ni**a is far from a "typical southern negro". Maybe one day a typical southern negro will be like this ni**a right here.

Sucka Ni**as. They are everywhere.
August 22, 2007 10:53 PM
 

Slash said:

Interesting Read. I bought Certified and was disappointed but I know DBs potential. I respect him as an artist though and he's real enough to have an opinion. Agree or disagree, he's the only one speaking on these topics.

@mikecoy

It's sad that you feel this is what a "typical southern negro" sounds like. Apparently you've watched too many episodes of Roots or Color Purple or Rosewood for you to think that DB isn't an intellectual. There are bigger issues in the world than running to save Twista for a McDonalds gig. Rethink your idea of the South because we're not as dumb as you believe.
August 22, 2007 11:23 PM
 

Ol_Skool_K said:

I totally agree with DB in regards to the leaders not approaching artists face to face and addressing the situation as opposed to belittling them and airing them out publicly. We need to have a sit down and let both sides articulate their points of view and their concerns. The last thing we need is beef between our youth and our black leaders, this is despicable. We're already the minority, dissention amongst ourselves is self-destructive.

The poverty in some of our communities is similar to that of 3rd world countries. Unfortunately, and I'm going to reiterate, hip hop's the scapegoat. Some blame the artists, some blame the labels etc. but we can't place the total blame there because labels, or any other business for that matter, stand behind the product that's sellin' - No sales, no record deal. We gotta support ALL hip hop (buy it) - Remember when the Cosby show was criticized because some believed that it wasn't realistic and a large percentage of our households didn't have a father that was a doctor and a mother that was a lawyer ? This is true, but that platform, on a major televsion network, did inspire a lot of our youth and made them believe that success was attainable through education.

Hip hop inspires the same way for those that may or may not have the opportunity to attend college... but the sad thing is that a lot of our youth that are listening to the music are lost and are emulating the negativity. Many of them don't have a father or mother in their household that's guiding them and explaining to them that what they're seeing and hearing is what the rapper is doing to make a living and those conditions no longer exist for them... no one's telling them that, despite what the artists were doing to survive at the time, they worked hard at becoming an MC and used their talent to write lyrics, perform, produce, and used unique marketing skills to create a buzz for themselves. Now they're living in a mansion, own businesses etc. because they worked hard to turn a negative situation into a positive.

Although most artists are genuine with their position and music, the kids need to be taught the harsh consequences of certain actions and we need to tell them "you don't wanna go that route". Some will listen and some won't, but the MCs have to let them know that this may have been my reality but it doesn't necessarily have to be yours. With hard work, persistence, determination, and dedication you can do anything. Sky's the limit. Later K
August 22, 2007 11:28 PM
 

ranrightous said:

Who ever  pissed D. Banner off iz finished!!!!!!!  I felt dat interview like my chick tits...  Real shit....  He wasn't dissin mofuckas , hatin on nobody he just said what alot of mofuckas was thinking (corprate thugz) dat was Pac in his prime and I don't compare niggas 2 tupac!!!  Yo, I know dis ain't da source but give him "5"  mics cuz dat interview was bettah than any album out dis year!!!  Now all he gottah do iz smack da shit out of bill o'rielly and he got my vote for hip hop spokes man!! AKA Da streetz champion  by way of Knock out!!! HL1  
August 22, 2007 11:31 PM
 

The Renassaince Chapter said:

REAL TALK!!
August 23, 2007 12:25 AM
 

SouthernRep said:

@mikecopy, i'm interested in your definition of a typical southern negro. Cause makin' a statement like that your obviously not from the south.

And as far as Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson he is right when he said why not sit down and talk to these rappers instead of blasting them in the media. You don't hear about Farrakan blasting rappers, he has sit downs with them. That dude was at the Coliseum in Jackson and gave a dude the shoes off his feet, and walked around in his socks. Him and Kamikaze which make up Crooked Lettaz are always speaking positive to the kids and to the public. Dude made sure he never forgot where he came from and he always keeps it real, he states his opinion whether you like it or not.
August 23, 2007 1:42 AM
 

TWON THE DON said:

DUDE KICK ROCKS BARE FOOT. FUCK DAVID WEAK ASS. IM RIDIN WITH THE REAL NIGGA. CAUSE WHEN THE SHIT HIT THE FAN WIT THEM WHITES, AND THEM POLICE, IM CALLIN JESSE AND AL. CAN'T GET N TOUCH WIT DAVE HE ON TOUR AND ALL THAT BULL SHIT. NIGGA FIGHT THE POWER.
AND FUC U N THE ASS IF U DNT LIKE WHAT I SAID.
                NOW!
August 23, 2007 2:22 AM
 

jcseals3 said:

I Fux wit Banner...
August 23, 2007 2:57 AM
 

Asher "Black Bomb" Sommer said:

best interview in a long time.
That's the truth, except that god thing.
The pastors and priest make money in the hood.
They ain't there to help. They only want you to
put in enough money every sunday and that works
best in bad situations
August 23, 2007 8:26 AM
 

doeboi5000 said:

Banner is one of da trillest...
August 23, 2007 8:47 AM
 

BKLYNMANN77 said:

Dude is so on point what he was saying about Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. You'll speak about rap music this and rap music that, but don't got the balls to call out George "pu**y". Rap music ain't f*ckin' up this country. Our own government is. Call them out, Mr. perm. I like what David Banner got to say. Never was really a fan, but might just go and cop this album anyway to check it out. He's doing good things for people. Positive!
August 23, 2007 9:42 AM
 

fizzroy said:

this nigga a clown. all you nigga's co signing this is jackasses. rev al and jesse been fighting for years for black people .al sharpton got stabbed riding for black people.who this sambo bleed for. nobody.this nigga pulling shit out his ass. al and jesse just want to see black kid's do better. you think ohpra like seeing black children going to jail.you nigga's need to wake up. elijah muhammad said the worst devil is a black devil.david banner is a black devil he trying to use young against old to sell record's. al jesse and ohpra saying the same shit your parent's or grandparent's will tell you or say.this nigga talking like he a factor in hip hop this nigga wack ass hell.just like all those slow ass down soputh nigga's.them nigga's is a minstrel show.2 nigga's from the whole south got advance word play wanye and ti oh yeah little brother nigga's is nice.it ain't a knock on the south it's a fact lil mama rhyme better than the rest of them nigga's. puit it's still all good cause they eating and not doing crime but step your lyric game up.stop being modern day steppin fleatchin.
August 23, 2007 9:54 AM
 

bbe4eva said:

good article

he needs more shine 2 me,him and killa mike

if he make another mississippi the album tho,he a bad man cuz tha cd was so hard 2 me!!! tha others were cool but he came out tha gate 2 hard on that 1. he 2 trill and u cant do shyt but respect that
August 23, 2007 10:00 AM
 

fizzroy said:

@bklynmann77

nigga you a dickhead you think this country fucked up leave it.ibet your ass will be crying to get back in a week.shut the fuck up with that bullshit.this the riches country on the planet.bush is doing what he pose to do.white man doing what he got to do to keep his country and life style in place.talk that shit when you paying40 dollars a gallon for gas.you probaly ain't got a car you bum ass nigga.start paying a house and car note's your ass will be singing a different song then.learn about geo politic'sand get back you fucking dirt bag's
August 23, 2007 10:02 AM
 

Renaissance Man » Hip-Hop Rumors: Beyonce’s 2nd Spill, Keyshia Cole Goes Whitney, David Banner Spazzes! said:

August 23, 2007 10:03 AM
 

bbe4eva said:

@tha community

y do people think southerners have no lyricisim?

y do people from tha east hate on most hiphop cuz it aint from tha east?

we kno it was invented there and we always showed love and supported it but when it blew on tha west there were rumblings ov hate then and now 2 so wassup wit that?

@ fizzroy
im ridin wit banner cuz wit them,i think its more ov a "we want our youth 2 b this" and they not exceptin wut we are,its like a youg vs. old think or sumthin. hell,yall raised us so...
August 23, 2007 10:08 AM
 

hypestyle said:

Banner has a lot of good things to say.. but at the end, the "quitting rap and working at Stop N Go" thing.. Hey, brother, you have a Master's Degree, don't sell yourself short.. you should own the place, not be working at it..
just something to think about..
August 23, 2007 10:24 AM
 

fizzroy said:

@bbe4eva

answer me this .how are black children in america doing.fine.if you think that you need to come out your cave.cause the black youth is in bad shape.older black people pose to try to guide the young period point blank.what are you doing to help black people and children more than al and jesse oh you think david banner is the new black leader bush will look at that nigga and laugh.iam in the south you really think these cat's is lyrical.they say they ain't lyrical.they make catchy tune's and song's yeah.put their word play stink
August 23, 2007 10:24 AM
 

fizzroy said:

oh yeah.i guess you nigga's mother's and grandmother's will condone calling women bitches and hoes and men trying to talk and look like pimp's and rhyme about killing each other.al jesse oprah saying exactly what they pose to say they fucking grown up's.like david banner pose to be. but i guess he in he's second childhood.you got to look at both side's
August 23, 2007 10:31 AM
 

Scottie Pimpin said:

BANNER IS KICKIN THE REAL ONCE AGAIN......

OPRAH IS FROM KOSCIUSKO MS....AND YOU WOULDN'T KNOW IT.  SHE DON'T DO SHYT IN THIS STATE....YOU DON'T SEE HER ON THE NEWS WITH ANY PHILANTHROPIC EFFORTS/EVENTS OR ANYTHING!!!

BANNER RAISED/GAVE MORE MONEY THAN HER DOWN HERE DURING KATRINA.  EVEN KG STEPPED UP HARDER THAN HER DOWN HERE AND HE AIN'T FROM THIS MUTHAFUKA!!!
August 23, 2007 10:46 AM
 

fizzroy said:

and as far as this nigga saying he'll fuck jesse jackson son up.what he think jesse jr going to be doing while he fucking him up.he gone a fuck around and get fucked up.this nigga talking shit behind a keyboard.he don't even come across as a ruff type nigga.this nigga know he non abrasive, this nigga wont throw rice at a wedding.
August 23, 2007 10:50 AM
 

d trini soca empre$$ said:

i never understand why u ppl hate oprah so much...it is her right to not appreciate the lyrical content that alot of these artists are puttin out....she came from a broken home jus like alot of blk youth, and she was also molested, and to see where she is now, it's bananas for u blk men & some women to shun her, i think she is a very good role model for young blk girls, and fifty was off the mark when he said her demographic is middle aged white women, apparently he doesnt watch her show, she covers alot of topics that affect ALL women...in my humble opinion, oprah earned her stripes, so kudos to her for speakin out on things she feels tears our communities down

as far as jesse & al, i disagree with a small portion of their tactics, but at the same time i pay homage to the things they have done over time for our communities, no one is perfect...and if shit ever hit the fan in this country where lynchings and all started all over again for us, i DEF would want them in my corner
August 23, 2007 11:00 AM
 

Cinatra said:

@ fizzroy
 
It sounds like you have everything covered!! Ask yourself how great this country is next time someone close to you with no insurance becomes ill. Lets see how bush will come and take care of them medical bills! Thats like Pras working with Lauryn Hill again!! History tells me that this country was bulit on the blood of slaves and corporate corruption. I guess thats what u stand for. Sure, this may be the best country in the world to live, that does not mean that it is right. Think about that the next time a hurricane brings a flood to your city. Where will your great country be then. On capital hill passing a tax bill that focuses on buliding tourist attractions, keeping the displaced population just that, Displaced!! Your country does'nt give a f*^k about you!!! Since you're so patriotic, why don't you become a marine and go to iraq and help your great country fight for oil!!! I bet dubba wont share any of that profit with ya. And if you happen to run across bombs and bullets and dont make it back, guess what, you died for nothing! Just like Pat Tillman. So go ahead and put your right hand over your heart and pledge allegience to a country that will not die for you. Think about it.
August 23, 2007 11:03 AM
 

Cinatra said:

Somebody tell this lame ass fizzroy to stop posting dumb ass comments!!! Im gonna add you to my list of haters on AHH!! You and eastoaklandfuckboy are running neck and neck with the stupidity. Whats next, you gonna pierce your nipples too!!!
August 23, 2007 11:06 AM
 

Souman72 said:

This Real Talk Rite Here

Someone had to say it .
August 23, 2007 11:07 AM
 

da unknown poet said:

put ur mufuckin fists in the air on that shit right there
August 23, 2007 11:18 AM
 

myspace/lorenzowilliams said:

Hey David Banner I can not respect you no more. You are attacking our Black Leaders when they are trying to make a difference in the community.

Rap Music is bad for young men, I don't see you no where trying to help out young men that are caught up in the system. You just running around running your motor mouth and don't know what you are talking about.

August 23, 2007 11:20 AM
 

the_dboy417 said:

@Mikecoy, Looks like your attempt to get some attention and get some response has worked, Good Job, Faggot

@Fizzroy, you talk about David Banner hidin behind a keyboard, we all know who Banner is, we can look on his show list and see where he'll be at, You on the other hand are hidin behind a keyboard. I doubt fizzroy is you're real name and you don't have your picture up, you need one or the other or shut the fuck up.

As far as David Banner, we need more rappers like this, and if you've followed him you'd know he's being sincere, and this shit is really how he feels. Its not an act.
August 23, 2007 11:41 AM
 

BayBOI said:

@TWON THE DON

TTD...Here is the thang...it's not about WHEN the ish hits the fan. It's about how f**ked up sh*t is now. Let's be real my nig....Al & Jesse are not Malcolm and Martin...but they are what we have in place as Black leaders. They fall short in comparison...but really...we fallin short just overall as a people. Banner is a rider and more importantly...if you is a rider...you woul want a ni**a like that on the team. It ain't about...let's call DB up...it's about to do down. It's about having ni**a's with right mindframe to push forward in this madness.

If you wanna ride with Al and Jesse...be my guest. At the end of the day...tearing them down is just as ignorant as Sharpton and Russell Simmons tearing down Mike Vick. But coming together as a people is where it's at...that's what I am about, that's what DB is about, that's what you NEED to be about.

And making threats at internet ni**a' and calling AHH ni**as out on a DAILY basis ain't gon get it done. Let that marinate for a second.
August 23, 2007 11:58 AM
 

Boss Up said:

co-sign
August 23, 2007 11:58 AM
 

bbe4eva said:

@ fizzroy

i feel wut u sayin but at tha same time there r southern rappers that r lyrical jus like any other place,its wack rappers all ova

and id rather b hurr than any other place but in my opinion we have no blk leaders,i can call tha revs leaders cuz who and wut r they leadin?

oh yea,im from tha souf 2
memphis,tn 2 b exact

love life yall,its 2 much hate in tha world
im out 1
August 23, 2007 12:02 PM
 

bbe4eva said:

ill 3rd that 1!!!
August 23, 2007 12:04 PM
 

black maybe said:

this dude is buggin. he alright but he just needs to chill. talk to people if you have problems with them, he's doing thesame thing he's acussing al sharpton for. why is he so mad and what is he so mad about. dude is not telling the people the truth about whats wrong with him and it's hurting him. confess nigga!

Peace!

August 23, 2007 12:12 PM
 

KRSONE said:

well mr banner, you talk about old people, you just better hope you get al or jesse age! and don't be mad because your cd's isn't sellin anymore where you want to take it out on old people! and why you not in the forefront for vick! you just runnin your mouth mr. banner! i know you help the katrina victims! but that don't make you a spokeperson on dissin old people!you have never and will ever been though what old folks been though! so you need to shut the fuck up! and don't be mad about their endorsement, the revoultion needs money!
August 23, 2007 12:37 PM
 

Cinatra said:

@ myspace/lorenzowilliams

   Could you explain to myself and the rest of AHH how Rap Music is bad for young men? Let me tell you whats bad for young men. The existing image of many inner cities. The violence and lack of caring from parents and other key social, political figures. There are a handful of black leaders that may walk what they talk, but you did not indicate who that may be. What we have here is the collective conscience of Young Black America. See, we understand that rap is entertainment. Just like Hostel, Texas Chainsaw Masacre, Terminator, etc. I did'nt hear anyone protesting the WWE for influencing young men to perform wrestling moves on an unlikely opponent. Did you speak out when that young man in Florida killed a little girl with a move he seen on Smack Down? You say that black leaders are being attacked for "trying" to make a difference in the black community. My grandpa told me that I can do anything that I put my mind to. so I dont "try" to do anything, I Do or Dont, plain and simple. they seem to use the black community for political publicity. I don't see the imact of the positive change they speak so much of. Oprah went to South Africa and opene up a school,provided supplies and uniforms. Did you question her motives? Don't you think that the fund Harpo used in South Africa could have been used to bulid a community center complete with PC's, literature, and recreation in Southside Chicago? I don't hear Al Sharpton campaigning to have the history books rewritten with the truth. I dont see Oprah buying every single mother in the hood a Pontiac G6 so they can go to school and work without alloting time for public transportation. I don't see Bill Cosby implementing programs on improving the social skills and language used in these communites. Yet I do see these black leaders labeling hip hop
August 23, 2007 12:38 PM
 

ron art said:

I’ll slap the f**k out of Jesse Jackson’s son. I can’t lay hands on Jesse Jackson because I believe in respecting my elders, but I’ll f**k Jesse Jackson’s son up.
August 23, 2007 12:50 PM
 

dscott219 said:

Jessie and Al got flaws too fa real just read the newspapers back in 2000 and 2001. BLACK MAYBE ur an idiot as a black man in this country its hard, the man lost his dad plus he has to deal with all of the disrespect from OUR black leaders but I do have respect for our leaders with the aid in the progression of blacks in the past but you cannot publicly as a leader disrespect up and coming leaders. As a leader you should have pulled him aside and talk face to face thats the only way one can progress. Rap music is never going anywhere people are just going to have to live with it haha
August 23, 2007 1:00 PM
 

ron art said:

"I don't care what any hater says...this is a real a$$ ni**a. If there were 1,000 ni**a's in every state of this country that was built like this ni**a...Black people would be in a lot better position."




















































Pure comedy.

August 23, 2007 1:03 PM
 

myspace/lorenzowilliams said:

YOUNG BLACK MEN LISTEN TO RAP MUSIC ALL DAY LONG. MOST OF THEM LIVE WITH NO FATHER FIGURE, SO RAP MUSIC IS BAD TO IMPRESSABLE YOUNG BLACK MALES. RAPPERS TALKING ABOUT KILLING THERE BROTHERS, SELLING DRUGS, CALLING WOMEN NAMES, DON'T THEY HAVE SISTERS AND MOTHERS??

THE N WORD IS A NEGATIVE WORD AND RAPPERS NEED TO BE UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY ARE SPEAKING.

BUSH IS NOT THE PROBLEM, YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. WHY DO I SAY YOU. WHEN YOU GO BEHIND YOUR BROTHER BACK AND STAB HIM IN THE BACK. WHEN WE HAVE A WILLIE LYNCH MENTALITY IN OUR COMMUNITY. WE AS BLACKS CAN NEVER GET ALONG, WE ALWAYS FIGHTING EACH OTHER WHICH IS SAD. LOOK IN OUR CHURCHES, OUR COMMUNITIES, ON OUR JOBS, WE ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING BAD ARE NEGATIVE TO SAY ABOUT EACH OTHER. WHY IS THIS? WHY CAN'T WE STICK TOGETHER MORE?

YEAH WE AS BLACKS HAVE COME UP INDIVIDUALLY BUT WE HAVE NOT COME UP AS A WHOLE. LOOK AT OTHER RACES OF PEOPLE AND LOOK HOW THEY STICK TOGETHER, ASIANS, MEXICANS, WHITES..ETC..

RAP MUSIC SHAPE THE MINDS OF YOUTH AND WHEN YOU HAVE GUYS LIKE, 50 CENT, YOUNG JEZZY, TI, YOUNG BUCK, LIL WEZZY, AND THE REST OF THEM---LISTEN TO WHAT THESE GUYS BE SAYING....

August 23, 2007 1:13 PM
 

dscott219 said:

LORENZO WILLIAMS are you seriously talking negativly about hip hop in general are you serious man what are you even doing on this site bro fa real your wasting your time this site is for hip hop lovers dude kill ya self
August 23, 2007 1:43 PM
 

MackSwami said:

Banner is right about our leaders.
they crucifying the wrong people.

The rappers no matter how negetive they are percieved are the only ones stepping up for our people these days.

props and keep up the good work!!!!!!!!  
August 23, 2007 1:50 PM
 

King Eljay said:

This dude is so real.... i love real niggas like this man... i hope he does numbers...and if Al Sharpton went to the hospital today, i would have no complaints...
August 23, 2007 1:55 PM
 

myspace/lorenzowilliams said:

I love rap music, matter of fact Lil Wayne CD is in my car as we speak. My whole point of writing this is because I care about my community. Listen up Cinatra, dscott219, ron art, King Eljay, Krsone, black maybe, bbe4eva, Boss up. I teach school, I see young black males everyday listen to rap music all day long. They can not write a sentence are do addition but they can repeat everyword that these rappers be saying.

My whole point is that young minority males only listen to what these guys are preaching is hurting them  in the long run. They don't listen to no gospel music, hardly ever listen to Preachers, but they listen to rappers that are telling them how to kill, how to sell dope, how to call women names, that is bad if that is the only thing you listen to when you wake up. See you have to watch what you listen too...Would you agree with me on that?

David Banner none rapping dude up here talking about he is going to smack somebody. I use to think dude had sense back in the day, now I realize he is not all that bright in the head...


August 23, 2007 2:17 PM
 

myspace/lorenzowilliams said:

www.myspace.com/lorenzowilliams
August 23, 2007 2:17 PM
 

odoggz said:

I have always liked the way dude conducted himself and has spoken. The giggaboo southern image is what he should focus on ridding the music, and America, of , and rather than just attack Jackson and Sharpton, I think he should be a mouthpiece for the black youth by pointing out to ALL exactly why these two 'leaders' (or even NAACP) are not looking to aide us in any way. The old civil rights people's current mentalities are very negative towards the current generation of their own, but I think it's because they don't want to acknowledge that the reason many are lost today is because THEY failed their children (60s thru 70s), who then turned around and made the current generation of children (late 70s thru today)! The link was broken by these post civil rights leaders who didn't connect with their children to build them up, and thus we're only children of that fallout, so these older heads are trying to separate so they don't look 'like us' to others- thus they publicly attack us! That shit needs to be communicated by someone who speaks as well as David Banner. Unfortunately, we have rappers like Camron and NAS speaking to white people about us, and they're not articulate at all and represent us incorrectly with nonsense, when it should really be people like this guy! So rather than just give ghetto youths anger against the older heads, he should point out exactly WHY they failed us, so that ignorant blacks don't go try to shoot these guys or have a valid argument as to exactly WHY we feel the old heads left us behind. A whole nation of blacks came to OJs defense (while most knew he was guilty, even openly say so today) but not Mike Vick? That's WILD!
August 23, 2007 2:23 PM
 

Renaissance Man » Hip-Hop Rumors: Beyonce’s 2nd Spill, Keyshia Cole Goes Whitney, David Banner Spazzes! said:

August 23, 2007 2:28 PM
 

JWatts4sho said:

That was a real ass article from a real ass dude.  David Banner has always been this type of person, and he says what he means and means what he says.  Thats refreshing to me because there are too many fake people out here that wont say whats on their mind.  On the issues of Jesse and Al, I'm feelin what David Banner said (and Jim Brown says pretty much the same things), those guys are Publicity fiends.  They came from humble beginnings to help aid the black community, but that shit doesn't get you a pass NOW, because they are no longer really trying to help us out.  They didn't go to GA and help out with the Genarlow Wilson situation.  They didn't go to Paris Texas and help get the Shaquanda Cotton girl out of prison for pushing a teacher (she got like 7-10 years for that).  They haven't done anything to help lift black people or help lift young black men up in general at all lately.  Instead, they choose to attack rap music (like some dumbasses), because white folks said its a problem.  Old ass white men say, "I only said nigger because they say it in the music all the time"!!!  HOOK LINE AND SINKER.......  Got "THEM" (US) fightin against each other again.

Point Blank!!!!  We got blacks killin blacks..... too many black men in jail.....  Women that don't respect themselves and wind up with 3 kids all with different babydaddies..... and the list goes on.  But we get our LEADERS focussing on bullshit!!!  So you all can defend Oprah (givin cars to well-off white women and building a school in Africa without even attempting to build one in the US), and Al and Jesse (who always want to jump on the race card for publicity purposes instead of tryin to help blacks help themselves within the community), but I'm not goin for the damn okie doke.  I'm from the South and tho Al and Jesse marched with Dr. King, and had a hand in helping the Black Community to where we are today, they haven't done shit in my lifetime.  And thats just what it is.
August 23, 2007 3:10 PM
 

Intelekt said:

Banner should really watch his mouth. There's a difference between being courageous and being stupid. He's just being stupid talking all this smack. He should be more articulate and willing to embrace people and sit and talk with them. Don't shout and curse at dudes and threaten to smack someone's son. He's being just straight up dumb. He's smarter and more talented than that. Come on Banner.
August 23, 2007 3:28 PM
 

fizzroy said:

bbe4aeva

keep ridin

@the_dboy417
@cinatra

get your money up you'll feel better
August 23, 2007 3:39 PM
 

Holla221 said:

I cant believe people agree with this guy....I can understand being angry with people who dont see things your way but these people are older then you...You talking about Oprah...yo when these guys were living in the hood they would never disrespect the older women who would come to their door and say  "Stop cussin out there" or "Turn down that music"....But now they got money they think they can talk back now...Respect your elders if they dont like what your doing just dont comment keep doing what your doing....I just cannot believe he said " Oprah acting like she aint a ni$$a no more" ...WTF...I dont curse but that just made me say that
August 23, 2007 3:54 PM
 

odoggz said:

speaking of that Mike Vick thing and older blacks not coming to defend, did you read the recent NAACP PUBLIC statement?? They say 'fuck him, he's not a victim'.
-->  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20393221/
August 23, 2007 4:09 PM
 

Awwready_Mayne said:

wow...i respect what david banner said and i agree...except for the beating up jj's kid lol. that was kinda crazy, but i know what he meant.  it is fucked up to single out rap as a whole as to what's tearing our community apart.  did you get what he said that he'd quit rapping and stick to making movies which display the same content you hear in rap music????  it was a message.  ok shut down rap, i'm just gonna make more money acting and pretty much saying the same thing i said in my music.  i don't agree with oprah cause on her show she had people on her panel that didn't pertain to anything she was talking about.  you hate nigga, bitch, and ho so much then bring some rappers that actually say these things so you can get a better understandiing as to why they put these in their music.  we know al sharpton is a for the moment black leader and jesse's made mistakes in his past too.  nobody's perfect so they tear down rap music to make themselves feel better???  why didn't you talk about this before don imus?  it's always been there.  after the oprah show the very next show she and gail were dancing to i think ying yang twins or lil jon telling her to drop it to the floor lol....is that not demeaning to women???  it's an ass shaking song telling that ho to drop it to the floor.  to me they all use rap as a security blanket to keep themselves relevant.  
August 23, 2007 5:00 PM
 

Awwready_Mayne said:

wow...i respect what david banner said and i agree...except for the beating up jj's kid lol. that was kinda crazy, but i know what he meant.  it is fucked up to single out rap as a whole as to what's tearing our community apart.  did you get what he said that he'd quit rapping and stick to making movies which display the same content you hear in rap music????  it was a message.  ok shut down rap, i'm just gonna make more money acting and pretty much saying the same thing i said in my music.  i don't agree with oprah cause on her show she had people on her panel that didn't pertain to anything she was talking about.  you hate nigga, bitch, and ho so much then bring some rappers that actually say these things so you can get a better understandiing as to why they put these in their music.  we know al sharpton is a for the moment black leader and jesse's made mistakes in his past too.  nobody's perfect so they tear down rap music to make themselves feel better???  why didn't you talk about this before don imus?  it's always been there.  after the oprah show the very next show she and gail were dancing to i think ying yang twins or lil jon telling her to drop it to the floor lol....is that not demeaning to women???  it's an ass shaking song telling that ho to drop it to the floor.  to me they all use rap as a security blanket to keep themselves relevant.  
August 23, 2007 5:01 PM
 

the_dboy417 said:

@Fizzroy, don't even go there with me homeboy. Lol. I'm crushin your lil income.

@Ronart, where you been dog? You hidin from me? Did you do your research? I want my apology.

Here's my proof http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/retrieve_chart_history.do?model.chartFormatGroupName=Albums&model.vnuArtistId=360436&model.vnuAlbumId=957944
August 23, 2007 5:19 PM
 

Polar Bear Grizz said:

Damn, It's a lotta dumb mothafucas on here. All yall do is go back and forth. Let me tell you I went down to MS for the 1st time this summer and I met some outstanding black people. You can't blame rap for shit it's just entertainment like everything else, for it's language, its still not as violent as your average video game. Kids know all that shit is fake just like they know those dudes are businessmen makin moves gettin that paper. Just like they know their parents aint shit yall aint foolin nobody these kids are aware of everything. They know that it's up to us to make the change, not some cracker on Capital Hill or some nigga in a suit tell'n them everything is their fault. Yeah Al be protestin and march'n but kids is still gett'n shot just like they was 50yrs ago. Kids know shit aint never gonna change. They see the hypocrisy everybody seems fake to them. what ya gonna do blame a rapper? Get Real.

Speak your ish Banner do you!
August 23, 2007 5:27 PM
 

TWON THE DON said:

@bay boi
we on the same page we both agree shit fucked up.
dnt get me wrong i like rap,some rap but this shit they talkin abt 2day needs 2 be band. remember 2live crew. it was they videos that made u say damn..............! not they music if it did it wasn't played on the radio all day. u had 2 hide and play that shit. and like i said when the shit hit the fan were r u these thug ass rappers at? who on the front line making shit happen? now dave might b right n how he feel. but they way he came was wrong. i think he should have more respect than that. you want tell yo pops 2 suck yo dick would u? thats what i'm talkin abt.
                     NOW THAT I GOT THAT OUT THE WAY.
NOW WE ALL COME ON HERE EVERY DAY 2 READ WHAT HAPPEN N HIP HOP RITE? WE R 2 MAKE A COMMENT RITE. RITE SO Y WHEN SOMEBODY SAY I DNT LIK THIS OR FUCK THAT. ONE OF U CHAT LINE NIGGAS SAY SO,AND SO U A BITCH 4 SAYIN WHAT U FEEL. HOMMIE IT AINT IN YO PLACE 2 COME LIKE THAT, CAUSE IF THIS WAS FACE2FACE WOULDN'T NONE OF THIS SHIT BE GOIN ON. I! AINT LETTIN NONE OF THESE PUSSY ASS PUSSY TALK SHIT 2 ME. SO NIGGAS CAN B MAD ALL THE FUCK U WANT2. CAUSE I DNT START THIS SHIT I END IT.
NIGGAS TALKIN ALL THAT TWON THE DON GAY SHIT . BUT THE MIN I GO IN ON THEY ASS IM WRONG, FUCK THAT! I COMMENT ABT THE TOPIC,SO IF YOU DNT WANT 2 LOGIN EVERYDAY AND C ME GOIN OFF ON YO ASS, KEEP THEM TWON THE DON JOKES N YO PUSSY. PEACE AND IM OUT UNTIL THE NEXT TIME. BIG UP THO HOMMIE BAYBOI.
August 23, 2007 5:31 PM
 

TruSoljaBoi said:

Aiight peep this....man the music we've been doing is music we'ev been making since day 1....any music out there is straight derived from our culture...peep knowledge...but.... I mean it was a time where our music was our heart and what we said was what we meant...But now you got so many of us out here doin some off the wall shit...that no disrespect I cant really back up hip hop in its entirety either...Yeah its certain artist who have never strayed into this new era of bustin gats and donks and 'lacs...but its a few.... I mean David Banner said some real shit....the old heads aren't holdin us up for real....but are we holdin up the old heads? Nah not really... And to be the truth I would back David Banner on that positive shit but Ive listened to him for a minute now and hes no Afrikaa Bambataa...ill tell you that much.;..I remember on MTA:2 Baptized in Dirty Water he had a song called "Let's take this shit to his mama house"...download it and peep...but i mean thats a far cry from what hes spittin...But at the end of the day, just like confidence comes from within...so does knowledge, growth, and change...Nas said hip hop is dead(its dying, but not dead) and everyone shitted on him....after he said that shit on radio...I haven't heard one song from his shit yet...But I can tell you about Remy Ma shooting some female over loot, I can tell you about 50 cent vs. the industry...I can crank that souljaboi(yuuhhhh!).But what I cant do is act like hiphop isnt being foul right now...Peace fam and Ill holla
August 23, 2007 5:35 PM
 

fizzroy said:

@odoggz

that's right fuck mike vick.what he did 4 you. nothing.this nigga gave 10 g's to va.tech after the shooting cheap ass nigga. i could do that.ya'll nigga's suckin nutz mike vick or david banner lol grown ass man named after a comic book. ( MAN YOU STR8 OUT A COMIC BOOK). them nigga's ain't doing shit but talking. me feel sorry for a nigga blowin million's of stackz please. i don't care if they put his dumb azz under the jail.nigga's like that don't deserve to live.u feel sorry for a jackazz you are a jackazz
August 23, 2007 6:15 PM
 

fizzroy said:

@trusoljaboi

50 the smartest nigga in hip hop. kanye should thank him i heard niggas say they going to get his shit cause of what 50 doing. 50 making niggas pick side's so he gonna sale regardless.them niggas was on stage together in ny screamfest.50 ,kanye ,jigga ,and puffy.that nigga playing chess.these niggas is playing checker's he ain't sitting back waiting for sale's he created a buzz for him and west.lil wayne would be stupid not to jump on this.remember my nigga it's always bizzness neva personal.
August 23, 2007 6:26 PM
 

fizzroy said:

@odoggz

this nigga tried to get on a plane with a stash bottle. come on that nigga so smart he stupid
August 23, 2007 6:30 PM
 

Souchiro said:

Damn, I'm late to the party.

But, str8 up. I honestly feel what DB was saying. Sometimes I ain't got the heart to go hard like he do. I ain't got that rubber skin that you need in order to go like he does.

The only point in his article I don't agree with is him beating the shit out to JJ's son. Thats wrong. But, I also understand the frustration that he has with this.

Can't save everyone. He's right. I love the fact that he's championing is cause. Doing what he's doing cause he wants to. Cause it damn sure ain't a PR move. His single is getting no play and he ain't even in rumors. So I see its genuine and from the heart.

Black people wont allow leaders like DB. Our mentality wont allow a change in leadership. Al and JJ should not be our top leaders today. Its time for our generation to force a change of the guard. We can't keep invoking the spirits of Malcolm and Martin when something happens. We got to have action.

Waaaaakeeee Uppppppp!!!!
August 23, 2007 6:34 PM
 

NevaBeaSuka said:

@comm