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Fuck the NAACP.  if they were so interested in the advancement of "colored people" ( i can't beleive they still call themselves that) they wouldn't have dropped the ball and allowed our children to get in the state that they are in. They are complicit patronization of Black people and the weakening of their collective self reliance.  Then when they get called on being th elypocrites they are they go run out and find someone to throw under the bus.  They pulled the same shit Al Sharpton pulled. Black leaders my ass.

it's very rare that a rapper will say all women are hoes.  Hoes exist. Pretty women is about a prostitute. There are many movies featuring hoes.  Maury got a new episode everyday with hoes of all races that can't find they baby father. Children don't come out the womb listening to rap. they dont come out hating and degrading either. Where was the NAACP when over a third of New Orleans couldn't read? Then they got the nerve to get mad at a Katrina response

Why don't these people just admit that They overreacted to the Imus thing instead of looking for targets to witchhunt

All parties need to sit down and talk...behind closed doors

All I have to say is wow. (Click my name to see proofs of my visions and testimonials).

The NAACP should go after all those LIQUOR companies for advertising in the black community with half nude black women and other female races.

Lets not forget about the cigarette companies.  All that degrading of women to sell their products. THE NAACP has nothing to say about that, but they want rappers = scapegoat.

All that promorion of Liquor and tabacoo. Liquor is a cause of date rape, out of wedlock childbirths (due to being incoherent), drunk driving, alcohol abuse, domestiv violence and family decline.

TALK ABOUT THAT NAACP! ! ! !

GO AFTER THOSE GUYS, IF NOT YOU'RE JUST A BUNCH OF (pick your own degrading name).

I CALLED A FEW NAACP OFFICES FOR HELP, LEFT SEVERAL MESSAGES. NOT ONE PHONE CALL WAS RETURNED, LET ALONE A LIVE ATTENDANT TO ANSWER THE PHONE FROM BUSINESS HOURS 90-5PM.

THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO ME SEVERAL TIMES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE YEAR, WHEN I NEEDED HELP IN 2005!

Imma play devils advocate on this one.

Change starts from within, and calling for the cease of a by us for a word that was created by them to degrade us, is not by any means wrong or irrelevant.

Did people overreact to Imus, maybe.  Should the N world be gone, hell yeah.

I mean on the real, why NOT bury it?  Why NOT stop calling women whores in music.

You say that whores exist and rappers are not calling all women that, I see no distinction being made in the music.  No one is specifically referring to street walkers.  They are referring to all women, especially ones that do not feel the whole thug image.

The NCAAP doing what they have to do, why you all cant respect their gangsta?

So if Dre, Ice Cube, Yella & Ren get together for a reunion tour will they just be "WA"?

And what about subsequent publishing of their CDs? Will they change the logo to be "%#WA"

Can I still listen to all those great spoken word joints by the Last Poets?

I need some further instruction on this one.  We need a pamplet or something "what to do when "Nigger/Nigga" is dead and buried".  Can we some new "Nigga" manuals?

Just as Odeisel said & like i have said millions of times before...This Don Imus thing has gotten way too far. I can't believe how black people are swallowing this B.S. & going along with it.

Where were all these people back in 2004 when Dave Chappelle had everyone running around saying "I'm Rick James, BITCH!"

It's a shame Don Imus was successfully able to deflect negative attention away from himself and divert it towards rap music. Don Imus is a grown ass man, he's prolly felt that way towards women ALL his life. Yet it's rap music's fault he said that right?

I don't think Jay is insulting all women, in that song "Anything"(the 1st Anything, no the KC one)  he said, "some girls are nice, some girls are whores." So obviously he aint shittin on all women. On the other hand, Imus was just shitting on 2 normal girls for no reason.

They should have had more vision with Don Imus.  If they would of left him in his position he would have been apologizing and donating every day of his life to compensate.  To force him out just hurts the advancement of our people.  "Sometimes you cut your nose of to spite your face"

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I really aint see nothin where Jay get's scrutinized, but honestly burying the word might actually have a good affect on our culture. We need to let that word go for all the right reasons and say somethin else. I kno people will still use it in every way but it gets used too much.

This people are the worst examples of black people. Bury the N word? thats the dumbest shit i ever heard....Did they stop makin ignorant people? because thats what the word means right? I know  theres still a bunch of bitches and ho's running the street, so why should people stop using those phrases? If the Naacp cares so much about black people, why dont they help the kids before they become bitches, ho's and thugs.  I aint never seen none of those people from the Naacp in my hood!

And when did Don Imus start listening to Rap?

NAACP should stand for Niggas Against Africans in Corrupt Politics ....Cause that's all it is....Instead of steppin up like the Panthers and fightin for us...they choose to fight the battle they think will make them look good in the Political Community NOT the Black Community....It's a damn shame what our society  has come to...Blacks in a position to make change CAN'T, so they use hip hop as a scapegoat...Roots, Rosewood, etc. are all movies where we are called NIGGERS and they are considered some of the greatest movies made...why? because it's real depictions of past events...well so is rap just on the current event level ....Niggas and Bitches exist in every hood, city, suburb, etc.....the damn word means IGNORANT...I know alot of ignorant people of all colors... As long as we as a people keep letting the word nigger hurt us or affect us we will never rise...I look at it like this...Call me what you want as long as I'm doing my thing and striving for what's important in my life, only God can stop that....

Why should the N word be gone?  White people are not morons, they don't need no help from Black peopel to stop saying nigger.  they say it cause they want to and it's they right.  people ar eresponsible for being niggers not the word itself.

I dont see italians rallying around stoppage of dag and guinea.  I dont see women lobbbying not to call each other bitch.  To ban nigger is an implicit statment that black people are unable to defend themselves and unable to think and decide their own destiny.  it's more patronage.

You can take any word out of a vocabulary but if the same sentiment behind the word continues to exist what good have you done?  There are many names that are degrading to women and black people alike, merely putting a moritorium on words is like putting a band aid on a mortal flesh wound.  Its useless, and actually a little intellectually sloppy.  Who cares if they no longer call me a N word if you still treat me like one.

the comments made are thoughtful and to the point i would like to add that nigga is not the problems in our society its our economics the lyrics in rap music are a part of what is selling and to stop words and change styles is taking food from mouths.  Do we ask the movie industry to not make r rated movies because of the effects it may have on society.  We need to take more of an effort in rasing our children then to worry about words that are being spoken let them say what they want but lets us teach and express the difference between music entertainment and real life

This should be the death of blacks being offended by the word. It should be the start of everyone being offended by the word because it could be said to everyone. It's the English speaking world's only offensive word that has a racial connotation. It's about time it's use ends, but it's not going to be easy.

please just give this up becuz we're just separating us blacks even more between the young & the old.

I do think they have a point but are going about it in the wrong way. Personally i've stopped using the 'n' word - not because of the don imus/naacp incident. Its just coz i think there are other ways i can refer to my fellow bredrin

there are people saying that there will still be hoes and bitches. but who am i to judge them. if a ho is a female who fucks around, then shouldn't a dude who fucks around also be a ho? if i had a daughter, i wouldn't want any1 to refer to her as a ho. so why should i refer to another woman as a ho? respect is prime. and if we go on calling our fellow black women hoes and bitches, how do we expect white people to respect our women?

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FUCK THE NAACP THE NEED TO FOCUS ON THE RIGHT SHIT INSTEAD OF WORDS. HOW ABOUT WHY KIDS STILL GETTIN CAUGHT IN THE CROSS FIRE OF GUN VIOLENCE OR WHY ARE DRUGS STILL SO PREVILANT IN MINORITY COMMUNITIES. THEY TOOK AN INCIDENT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CENTRALIZED TO ONE RACIST PERSON AND TURNED IT INTO A WAR AGAINST HIP HOP. THESE IDIOTS HAVEN'T DONE THEY JOB SINCE MARTIN AND MALCOLM WERE KILLED.

It isn't their parents fault, huh?

It isn't the childrens own fault, huh?

It's the NAACP all the way!


Please.

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ALL I'M SAYING IS IF THE WANT TO RIGHT SO CALLED WRONG THEN START ON SHIT THAT MATTER NOT SOMETHING THIS STUPID HIP HOP DIDN'T START THE USE OF HO AN NIGGA, IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY THAT WAS BASIC TERMANOLOGY BACK IN THOSE 70'S FLICKS WHERE WERE THEY THEN TO TRY AND STOP THE USE OF THEM

The "N" word meaning has changed anyway.  But my question to some people if it's an alright word to use then why when  somebody who is not black use it Black people get offended and are ready to act like real N_GGas.  If it bothers you that white people are using it around you or call you a N_gga, then it should bother you when another black person call u one.  Plus I'm wit y'all the NAACP, Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson not out for nobody but themselves.  They just want national attention so they can put these corporations in a racial choke-hold to squeeze money out of them for their organizations.        

Ask any black man in his 40's the realest time in the US and he would say the civil rights era. Now check the ages of russell along with all the pioneers of this thing u all call hiphop and they will cosign. Thats why its so repressive for them to hear it and i'm 26 and I can see that why can you all. Sure we have a way to turning negative to positive which is good but with that word there is not neg or positive

what is the shit really going to solve? honestly.  people can win grammys for a song called "redneck woman" but if i say "nigga" in a track, im destroying black people.  rediculous.  niggas was dying long before 79

FUK DEM! NAACP(NIGGERS, APES, ANIMALS, COONS, POSSUMS)!!! DEY ARE ALL THE WAY FAKE ILL NEVA SUPPORT ANY OF DESE BOOTLICKIN SO CALLED BLACK LEADERS OR SO CALLED CIVILS RIGHTS GROUPS WATEVA U WNNA CALL THEM! DEY ALL PHONIES!!!

But my question to some people if it's an alright word to use then why when  somebody who is not black use it Black people get offended and are ready to act like real N_GGas.  If it bothers you that white people are using it around you or call you a N_gga, then it should bother you when another black person call u one.

^^^^some pple jus neva learn.

The NAACP has turned into house niggers.  (Notice I didn't say "niggas").  They are using the same old tactic that blew the cocaine epedemic out of control.  They ignored it how long thinking it would just "go away"  hahaha  Yeah right.  now all of a crack addiction is a disease and drug dealers are the angels of dispair.  Which is true but when it was controllable they did nothing.  When hiphop was moldable they said it was bad and unnaceptable and now that it really is they turn their back on their sons instead of saying no this is the way.

To any dumbass that brings up the question of "how come Blaks can say Nigga but Whites can't"  There is a band called Uncle Kracker and there is a country dance called the Honky Took Stomp, and better yet Larry the Cable and Jeff Foxworthy, have a Redneck comedy tour.  They have turned every racial word we've used into at the least an avenue to create revenue.  So why can;t we have Niggas With Attitudes, why can't my best friend be my Nigga?  Because White America did what it did in Iraq, They wanted a peice of the N-word, kind of like how the wanted that oil.  When they couldn't get it legally the forcefully took it and cut even the Iraqis of from using it.  Anyway FUCK a group of Black idiots that still use the term colored and trying tell us what is setting us bac.  FUCK the NAACP

MY Mom always said its not what you are called but its what you choose to respond to that gives any word power. Let this go to show everything that Black People..We are our own worst enemy.

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if we're talking about color people
then why do we only hear Mr. Al Sharpton talking about African American or 'black' people

why don't we hear about other things that are happening to the other colored people


btw... i agree that rap shouldn't be calling people bitches and hoes to sell a record.

i would say to start a world wide protest on mainstream rap, but then again people don't know how to listen to lyrics nowadays.

let's all pick up a talib kweli CD

rap doesn't call anyone anything. peopel call each other things. I think boycotting mainstream rap indiscriminately or period since you have to buy the album or go through th eeffort to download it  anyway is ridiculous.

Sticks and Stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.  WORDS WILL NEVER HURT ME?  This little nursery phrase is one of the biggest lies that have ever been told.  Broken bones are mended and fixed everyday.  The body recovers and life goes on. A nuclear stone, called the A-BOMB was dropped on Nagasaki and Hiroshima, yet Japan is still a major economic power.  Millions of Jews were beaten with the stick of inferiority and cooked in Hitler's ovens, but they too still retained power.  They still have power because their names weren't destroyed.
Our names have been stolen, changed, and given back to us in the form of a label or brand.  It wasn't enough for white men to just refer to us as slaves, they had to BRAND us with a special name: NIGGER....DERIVED FROM THE LATIN NEGRO- (Black, Black object)- Which itself is derived from the Greek word NECRO- meaning (dead, or death.)
It also implies that we have no homeland or history beyond being conquered.  Caucasians, Mongoloids, etc have NAMES that refer to a land, a history, an experience that goes beyond just being slaves or a conquered group of people.

And I do agree that the meaning and significance of words change as we change history.  The fact that we have taken Nigger and replaced the "er" with an "A" is a testament to our instinct to survive even after being labeled with a name that originates from DEATH.  It doesn't make it ok though.

As a collective of hip-hop enthusiasts, many of us have agreed to accept the negative as affirmation of our survival against all odds.  That's the conditioning of "SYSTEMS" in which none of us  "cogs" in this hip-hop machine want to stop the wheels of our "Nigga" system from turning.  Hip-Hop also gave the "Invisible Men" that Ralph Ellison eloquently described in his book so long ago a way to be visible through the use of two turntables and a Mic.  So we loudly proclaimed that "The NIGGA is still here!" whether that was good or bad.
White men responded, "Oh yeah, the Nigger is still here;  And in the same way that "niggas" rob each other to survive in our urban jungles, the white man robbed NIGGERS of our publishing, beat us for distribution of OUR product, and still reserve the right to Censor us when they choose to!

Even knowing all that, we get angrier with Julian Bond and the NAACP than we do with the white man who branded us with that NIGGER name in the first place.  Niggers survive, NiggAs survive with an attitude about it, but can a Nigga progress to a position of dominance in this global economy and community?  That's what we should ask OURSELVES and be sure of before we crucify the NAACP  and continue to declare ourselves NIGGAS.

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I think a lot of people are missing the point: the simple fact is, Don Imus said something fucked up, and it suddenly became very obvious that it would be very hypocritical if we were to castigate him for it, and not turn the mirror on our own behavior and the things we promote. Burying the N-word may seem a little cheesy, but I think it's something symbolic, and is about policing ourselves and recognizing the impact that our music has on the world around us.

Incidentally, I thought it was odd that Starr (formerly of Hot 97) got all up in J-Lo's ass (figuratively, of course) for using the <a href="http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2001/07/29/MN183785.DTL">N-word back in the day</a> - his beef was that she's Puerto Rican and shouldn't be able to use the word in her song. Somebody should bring that up with Pun, Fat Joe, Cuban Link, etc., etc.

Oh, and another thing - if the current crop of Black leaders is so terrible, how come nobody else is stepping up to fill the void? Challenge the status quo!

Oh - and I'm glad someone caught that ridiculous spelling error that appeared in the title of this article earlier - that shit was embarrassing.

First and foremost, I want to state that I have been an active and vivid reader of this site,  and I enjoy logging on every night and reading the news, rumors, post, etc.  I wanted to make a comment about the NAACP stand and views about the N word, or H word or any derogatory words that plague our society and what I have to say is just a little insight of my opinion and views of the issues.  I do applaud the NAACP for their efforts of trying to rekindle the social awareness and reform that is needed in our black community, but how they are going about it is all wrong.  NAACP are really just downplaying the big and broader issues that face our community.  I feel we should target issues about poverty level, lack of education, crime, substance abuse, health education(HIV/AIDS and STDs) that have such a tremendous negative downward affect on our community.  These issues should be addressed.  Instead of trying to gain politcal respect from whites and a pat on the back from financial influential blacks (Oprah, etc.) we should face these issues face on.  Why do most celebrities go outside the country and establish these schools and charity work and organization, instead of helping our community.  We need to work on the internal before trying to fix the external.  I am of Nigerian descent so I am not hating on the fact that they do go to these countries, but why so much hate, jealousy and envy in our country and our community, just a thought....

But we have to take that stance that we want to change inorder for progress to take place....

I agree that the NAACP is full of shit. That's why their president quit. However the Don Ismus thing was not blown out of proportion. First of all he spoke of women who pursuing thier education and wearing basketball uniforms, not ho uniforms. Yes ho's do exist but those women did not deserve that. I am tired of black people accepting these wack as stereotypes. Ho's do exist so its ok for this white man, matter-of-fact any man to call these women who are doing something with thier lives hos? What if he called a black man a nigga? Oh he would have been wrong for that. I have heard so many black men say that we have overreacted to this. It's a shame you don't have our backs on this. If black men don't stick up for black women who will. We stick up for yall all the fuckin time.