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Update: T.I. Denied Bail Again; Half Pound Of Marijuana Also Found In Vehicle
Published Friday, October 19, 2007 12:36 PM
By Chris Richburg and Roman Wolfe

Rapper T.I. pleaded not guilty to federal weapons charges today (October 19) including possession of machine guns but was denied bail for a second time.

 

T.I., born Clifford Harris Jr., appeared at the Richard B. Russell Federal Building and Courthouse in Atlanta this afternoon, after being arrested and jailed on October 13, for allegedly possessing unregistered machine guns and silencers, as well as being a convicted felon in possession of firearms.

 

Prosecutors also revealed that they found up to a half pound of marijuana in the rapper's vehicle, for personal consumption, when he was arrested on October 13.

 

U.S. Magistrate Alan Baverman ordered the rapper jailed until at least next Friday, while he reviews a proposal by T.I.'s defense lawyer Ed Garland, who is attempting to free T.I. on $2.2 million dollar bond, which includes a cash deposit of $500,000 dollars.

 

Garland also offered millions of dollars in signature bonds from Atlantic Records, who put up a signed, $1 million bond, while several executives at Warner Music Group issued five $100,000 signature bonds for the rapper.

 

T.I. also provided two $100,000 signature bonds from a bonding company and he also put up properties that he owned valued at $1.5 million dollars.

 

Garland proposed putting a person in T.I.'s home to monitor him 24 hours a day and offered to provide a list of preapproved visitors who would be allowed to enter his home.

 

Additionally, the rapper offered to submit to random searches of his home and random drug screening.

 

Lawyers hope that cash bonds and volunteered monitoring will prove that T.I. is not a flight risk to US Magistrate Alan Baverman, who called the rapper's past criminal record "troublesome."

 

Baverman told defense attorneys that if T.I. was to be released, he would have to put up $2 million dollars in cash.

 

Prosecutors also revealed for the first time that the case is part of an ongoing investigation that may change the current indictment against T.I.

 

ATF agents arrested T.I. in midtown Atlanta last Saturday (October 13) as the rapper allegedly planned to pick up machine guns and silencers that his bodyguard was purchasing for him.

 

Various weapons were discovered during the arrest, including three allegedly found in T.I.'s vehicle at the time of his arrest and six more allegedly found in the bedroom closet at the 27-year-old rapper's home in Atlanta.

 

The rapper's arrest was the result of an investigation that began this month.

 

According a criminal complaint filed in US District Court in Atlanta, a federal firearms dealer contacted the ATF about a man inquiring about buying a machine gun without registering the weapon, as required.

 

The man, who turned out to be T.I.'s bodyguard, was later arrested after he attempted to purchase several machine guns from an undercover ATF agent.

 

As a result, the bodyguard cooperated with the government and admitted to buying the machine guns and silencers for T.I., who allegedly brokered the deals through the bodyguard because he is a convicted felon.

 

It is against federal law for a convicted felon to have another person purchase or acquire firearms on their behalf.

 

T.I. currently faces a maximum of 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine for each count.


Comments

 

Pistolvania 717 said:

Sounds like TI might be getting a little scared sitting in that cell knowing that he is facing some serious time.

Atlantic Records putting up a mill., and executives from Warner Music Group putting up 100 thou a piece... all I can say is..... DAMN!
October 19, 2007 12:49 PM
 

Boss Up said:

Damn i really hope T.I. can rebound from this

i'm goin out today to purchase two copies of his cd...

Imagine how many weapons Bush has in his home in Crawford, Texas or Hugh Heffner who cares how many felons this nigga has he didn't hurt no body

Free Clifford Harris Jr.
October 19, 2007 12:54 PM
 

NYMVP said:

damn T.I you shoulda checked out who you were hiring man smh
October 19, 2007 12:55 PM
 

myddleman97 said:

Innocent until proven guilty, but Im going to love to see him get of this 1 though. If they knocked Mike Vick ass for dogs, I want to see Mr. TIP get out this.....& They have recorded conversations with you say, U want to get the guns too.
October 19, 2007 1:03 PM
 

tha clear said:

Does he have a recording studio in his home? He better get to work Slick Rick style. It don't look good for this dude at all. To trust someone you been around for three months for some serious shit like that is plain ignant(no pun). I am impressed with the label putting up the paper tho. I know they lookin out for their bottom line.
October 19, 2007 1:10 PM
 

hater hurter said:

T.i. just wants to be able to say goodbye if he does have to do 10yrs who can blame him. anyone of us would want that last little bit of time to get are business write just in case.  
October 19, 2007 1:18 PM
 

GawgaBwoy770 said:

I got something for y'all to think about..

Is what Michael Vick did comparable to what Ray Lewis did?

Is what T.I. did comparable to what Beanie did?

Both Ray and Beanie beat their charges..
October 19, 2007 1:17 PM
 

cantfademe1 said:

www.cantfademe.com " the black myspace "

Just seen on the news that the judge says that he needs another week until he would decided to let TIP free.
stay tuned......


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October 19, 2007 1:20 PM
 

kenny1234 said:

YEAH SITTING IN A CELL TIL YOUR TRIAL CAN TAKE LIKE 6 MONTHS IF I HAD  IT I PAID MY BOND HOUSE ARREST WIT SOME IN HOUSE PUSSY BETTER THEN SOME IN CELL SAUSAGE FEST.
October 19, 2007 1:23 PM
 

DEE-LICIOUS_ahh said:

Please...........yall talking like this nigga ain't try to buy MACHINE GUNS lol. He's a criminal. Yea we like his music, yea we love his personality, yea he's cute............but he fucked up. Tough titties. Now he's willing to put everything he owns up so he won't have to sit in jail......he should've thought about that shit before he let a bodyguard try and buy automatic weapons at a damn walgreens.
October 19, 2007 1:25 PM
 

slimturk said:

Well....in most cases even if the record companies EXECS are becoming involved and donating money to get him out....they know he is very valueable to the hiphop industry....and to throw TI in jail at this time for 10 years ....who knows how long it will take for the south to come up with another success as good as TI...

I sense victory for TI in this case...Think about it folks....the system is dominated by folks who like money....and everyone's got a price....so dont even try to say you dont got a price .... Everyone has a price....TI will get out....but i sense that this next album from this TI rapper may be his last ....reason being....he will outsell anyone after getting off this charge....Remember Tupac was in jail serving 5 years....the only way to get out was to sign over millions of dollars to get the F*** out....even Tupac had a price...then suge and US government officials killed him...black panther relations....anyways...

they will end up needing to pay TI so much in money that they will just have him killed aswell....another sad case os a rapper needing to get the F*** out of jail...TI better start getting his snitch list together b/c to stay out of jail he will need a few lists together.... like yeah 2.2 million is a lot of money but this is serious issue of owning guns lkike this...

plus if he gets off this case....watch how many young teens are going to go out and start buying crazy amounts og guns thinking they can get out of jail free bc TI did....face it folks if you aint rich ....you going to jail...or you will need to snitch..
October 19, 2007 1:31 PM
 

T.I. Pleads Not Guilty, Then Offers Judge Millions of Dollars for Bail · SickHop - The Sickest HipHop Site in The World! said:

October 19, 2007 1:35 PM
 

kuulski said:

Man he is offering allot to get out. Sounds like he is nervous as hell that he is going to lose this case or he know he is going to plead to something I cant see him pleading and getting a slap on the wrist. His old case or cases are going to haunt him.

October 19, 2007 1:41 PM
 

EBG_Arsonist said:

Nobody knows the whole story so ppl need to stop passing judgement. If i was T.I's bodyguard and I got caught tryna cop some illegal guns I would say the felonious rapper told me to do it too. ( Not really but for sake of arguement) Maybe the bodyguard was buying them for his self but didnt wanna register them because of all the sanctions and paperwork he would have to go thru every year. Then got pinched and he blames T.I

Anybody who knows anything about assault weapons knows its too much trouble owning that shit, every year u gotta do some rediculous shit with the ATF to validate u aint did nothing wrong
October 19, 2007 1:42 PM
 

SPOT-E said:

SOMEONE IS IN SOME REAL SHIT.

AND PLEASE LET NOT MAKE THIS A BLACK THANG HE DIDNT SUPPOSE TO HAVE ANY GUNS OR PURCHASE ANY ASWELL HE FUCKED UP ALL THE WAY..
October 19, 2007 1:47 PM
 

blazinskillz said:

"Seven time felon, what I care about a case mayne"
hmmmm..
October 19, 2007 1:46 PM
 

SPOT-E said:

MAN T.I IS GOING TO BE SOMEONES BIATCH. LOL
October 19, 2007 1:49 PM
 

usmc706 said:

Bail was denied until a hearing on next Friday 10/26/07 so the judge can review the stipulations of the proposed bond.
Check out www.ajc.com for more info.
October 19, 2007 1:49 PM
 

Jreyes20876 said:

I like T.I. & his music but if all this is true then he not only hurts himself but the community as well.  This may be the reason why a lot of people don't like the fact that he raps about what goes on in his community and very rarely raps about the consequences!  

The irony is that he made it to a point in his life where he doesn't need to be that person struggling to feed his family but yet he still decides to be involved on a different level.  So if all these allegations are true then he has to face the consequences of what he raps about.
October 19, 2007 1:52 PM
 

The Atl Boy said:

slimturk said:
Well....in most cases even if the record companies EXECS are becoming involved and donating money to get him out....they know he is very valueable to the hiphop industry....and to throw TI in jail at this time for 10 years ....who knows how long it will take for the south to come up with another success as good as TI...

I sense victory for TI in this case...Think about it folks....the system is dominated by folks who like money....and everyone's got a price....so dont even try to say you dont got a price .... Everyone has a price....TI will get out....but i sense that this next album from this TI rapper may be his last ....reason being....he will outsell anyone after getting off this charge....Remember Tupac was in jail serving 5 years....the only way to get out was to sign over millions of dollars to get the F*** out....even Tupac had a price...then suge and US government officials killed him...black panther relations....anyways...

they will end up needing to pay TI so much in money that they will just have him killed aswell....another sad case os a rapper needing to get the F*** out of jail...TI better start getting his snitch list together b/c to stay out of jail he will need a few lists together.... like yeah 2.2 million is a lot of money but this is serious issue of owning guns lkike this...

plus if he gets off this case....watch how many young teens are going to go out and start buying crazy amounts og guns thinking they can get out of jail free bc TI did....face it folks if you aint rich ....you going to jail...or you will need to snitch..

boy I tell you, some people just make up anything
October 19, 2007 1:59 PM
 

kuulski said:

UPDATE: A judge has just denied T.I. any immediate release on bond, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports. He will remain in jail on weapons charges for at least another week.

Lawyers for rapper T.I. asked a federal judge to release him on $2.2 million bond and allow him to have monitored home confinement while he awaits trial on weapons charges.

His defense attorney even suggested putting someone in T.I.'s home 24 hours a day so they can monitor his activities. Do not disturb!

Damn things not going well.

What u know about that?

lol
October 19, 2007 2:00 PM
 

OSC-CEO said:

how the hell is he suppossed to sound facing that kind of time??????...you dudes are ignorant as hell...this guys made over 18 million last year...what the fuck is 2.2 million to him...if anyone of us was in his shoes we would pay that to get out. not saying what he did was right i just hope that he can get out of this situaton....i guess he would really be a hard if he stayed in jail until his court date huh?
October 19, 2007 2:01 PM
 

busayo said:

whether he beats the case or not, he is gonna to be in debt to his record label financially.  hope his assets are right because he is gonna take a financial hit after his losing endorsements and touring income from the stress of the case. TI(or was it TIP that caught a case) is an idiot for putting his business and family at risk
October 19, 2007 2:02 PM
 

YoungSosaDaDon said:

Nobody really knows the real story i dont believe everything that is going on to the fullest.  We just found out that Pacs bodyguard was an undercover fed whose to say this guy isnt and they tryin to set him because he's outspoken.  If Jay was like T.I. when it comes to speakin out for hip hop i wouldnt be surprised if they hit him with a dope case just because but they know Jay got money out the ass so they goin for the little fish so to speak if you ask me.
October 19, 2007 2:02 PM
 

busayo said:

"Maybe the bodyguard was buying them for his self but didnt wanna register them because of all the sanctions and paperwork he would have to go thru every year."

u do realize bodyguard's dont store their weapons in the house of their clients right.  how does he account for the other weapons found in his house. he is a felon that shouldn't be around UNREGISTERED weapons or even guns for that matter.  next time, TI or TIP would learn not to hang around bad folks
October 19, 2007 2:04 PM
 

mike_dachamp08 said:

lol... Ti my dude but it really sound like he realizing.... like "shit, i cant sit behind these walls" plus i think he gonna use that time in between now and the trial(if they go for all that he offered and let him out) but he gonna use this time to pull a Beans. make like 8 videos a whole album and 2 mixtapes and a movie. lol. so at least he can get that bread while once in. Im sure atlantic and Warner Music group realize that too. Tryna make a plus out of an inevitable negative.
October 19, 2007 2:04 PM
 

Dapper C said:

yo i thought TI had money, why thhe company putting up money for him.... i thought dude was caked up...
October 19, 2007 2:07 PM
 

EReal said:

Damn Atlantic wants Duke out so he can record like 1,000 tracks before he goes in, lol.
October 19, 2007 2:09 PM
 

K.A.K. DEUCE said:

"IT'S ALL OVA NOW TAKE IT LIKE MAN!"
October 19, 2007 2:10 PM
 

DSheezy said:

I GOTTA HAND IT TO T.I AND HIS PEOPLE THEY AINT GOIN OUT WITHOUT A FIGHT.  

I DONT BLAME THEM FOR OFFERING UP ALL THE BONDS & PROPERTY AND STIPULATIONS CUZ JAIL AINT A COOL PLACE TO BE. ANYBODY THATS EVER BEEN KNOWS THAT. AND FOR THE NI99AS THAT CANT SEEM TO STAY OUTTA JAIL, U GOT PROBLEMS WHO WANTS TO BE IN A SAUSSAGE FEST.
October 19, 2007 2:12 PM
 

mike_dachamp08 said:

@ Jreyes20876 and anybody else that made this point.

i feel ya 100. its gonna look real bad if he gets off. and it sucks that he in the view pf the public gets to a point to where he good. and still ends up promoting bad (not on purpose) but shit ya got caught now its open season on hip hop criminals. they makin us look bad.
October 19, 2007 2:13 PM
 

GameTime33409 said:

Free T.I.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Free T.I.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Free T.I.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Free T.I.!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn man i hope T.I. can get over this Ish. He will be ok just give him some time he'll beat the case!!!!

Free T.I.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Free T.I.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Free T.I.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Free T.I.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Free T.I.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Free T.I.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Free T.I.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 19, 2007 2:17 PM
 

OSC-CEO said:

@ Dapper C

These things are called assets you dickhead..which means things of value and would allow him to not pay the actual cash..as fas as the company goes there not making anymoney with him sitting in jail..if they help get him out it would be better for them in the long run

@ kuulsk

what's so funny about another black man being in jail? just a question
October 19, 2007 2:21 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

@GawgaBwoy770:
I feel you there. I really dont know enough about Beanie's case to speak on that, but I do know enough about Ray Lewis to say this:
The cops simply didn't have NEAR the amount of evidence against Lewis that they had against Mike Vick. Plus they had people willing to testify against Vick, whereas with Lewis, his "people" (meaning his friends or whatever) stuck with him. And the law states that simply being INVOLVED in dogfighting is illegal, regardless of whether you are the one killing the dogs afterwards or not, while its NOT illegal to witness a murder like Lewis did (as far as we know, all that has been proven was that Lewis was there when the murder happened).
So what does that mean for TIP? It means that everything is going to hing on just how much evidence the Feds have against him.
October 19, 2007 2:22 PM
 

TeriofLDN said:

sad
October 19, 2007 2:25 PM
 

NappyPeeza said:

damn homie
October 19, 2007 2:26 PM
 

busayo said:

"what's so funny about another black man being in jail? just a question "

what's not funny about a stupid black man who ruined a fantasy life by doing something that couldn't be avoided?? next time time he would have thought about his kids.  i thought TIP was gangsta mean-mugging in his vids, he should be able to handle them thugs in jail right? lol.

October 19, 2007 2:29 PM
 

» Blog Archive » Team Atlantic Goes To Bat For T.I.P. said:

October 19, 2007 2:33 PM
 

On_Dat_Kryptonite said:

HALF A POUND? Who with any sense ever rolls around with that much?

On top of trying to be purchase weapons as a convicted felon, trying to purchase silencers which are completely illegal no matter what and on top of that Tiny got pulled for ecstasy and marijuana possession?

So much for responsible parenting. *smh*

TI is gonna have his ass tore up in a cell by next year.
October 19, 2007 2:35 PM
 

wizwey21215 said:

man no body knows why he was buying the guns for real it could've been for protection or it could have been he was just collecting them and he had his bodyguard get them because he is a felon nobody knows but whats the wrong in that everybody on here knows that if you had the money he has you would get protection for your families too plus with all the time they had i am pretty sure they tested all the guns and  i haven't heard about any of the guns having bodies on them have you? so in my eyes the only wrong he did was trusting someone he really didn't know to handle his buisness.
October 19, 2007 2:36 PM
 

JrzeeMa said:

g
October 19, 2007 2:38 PM
 

JrzeeMa said:

busayo said:

what's not funny about a stupid black man who ruined a fantasy life by doing something that couldn't be avoided?? next time time he would have thought about his kids.  i thought TIP was gangsta mean-mugging in his vids, he should be able to handle them thugs in jail right? lol.


*****************************************

I dont care who you are and what you do you damn well you would rather be at home then jail... No matter how Gangsta you are.  Home is always better then jauil wherter you had 3 super soakers and 3 water balloons or 3 machine guns and silencers
October 19, 2007 2:39 PM
 

the_dboy417 said:

@Everyone talkin about how much money T.I. made last year, when they say he made 9 mil or 11 mil I don't think its like they got a check for 11 million dollars, I think it's more like money generated. And at the rate these motherfuckers spend money it's really no tellin how much he has. I know he has a lot of properties and possessions. Puffy has said on numerous occasions he doesn't have anywhere near the amount of money people say he has. I just hope T.I. gets out, he had too much goin for him to be doin what he was doin but to me thats beside the point.
October 19, 2007 2:42 PM
 

GawgaBwoy770 said:

It seems as if it's a lot of hating on here..I posted those questions to make y'all niggaz think..T.I. didn't do shit compared to what Beanie did..He was going around shooting niggaz and was a convicted felon..Ray Lewis and his homebwoys killed a nigga in Atlanta and he walked..Why isn't Vick going to walk? Because he's more high profile..Why won't T.I. walk? Because he's more high profile..Stand behind your people and stop falling for the bullshit..It's a lot of niggaz on here that's just like bitches..Don't want to do shit but sit around, gossip and bad mouth the next man..He put himself in a fucked up position true enough but the problem is deeper than what he did and his situation..When the muthafuckas start coming to y'all niggaz doorsteps we'll see how y'all act then..The majority of you niggaz was freeze up like a popsicle..Once behind them bars y'all niggaz would be singing like Luther Vandross(r.i.p)..It kills me how our people are so quick to jump to conclusions and put each other down before the white man even get a chance...

Lmao, to the theory that he'll send the wrong kind of message if he get off..Ain't no young niggaz going to go out and get an arsenal of weapons because T.I. did it..They are going to get what they can to protect themselves in the environments they live..Only suburb ass muthufuckas think like that and don't get me wrong i'm not saying all but most..They are the ones that can't understand the street life and the things niggaz go through on a daily basis just trying to make it to see the next..Stop with all the bullshit theories..I guess everybody wanted to go around shooting niggaz because Beanie did it and got off..lol
October 19, 2007 2:43 PM
 

OSC-CEO said:

@busayo

your a asshole buddy...news flash not everyone in jail is a thug dickhead..yeah it could have been avoided and want he did was dumb...but him being in jail is not funny...you sound like your happy that he's there.
October 19, 2007 2:45 PM
 

Yadadamean said:


Judge: Clifford Harris aka T.I.

T.I.: (interrupts judge)“Yeah you know they call me T.I., but You Don’t Know Me”!!

Judge: (Pauses)According to your past and these new charges, I’d say I know you very well Mr. Harris. Your charged with two felonies — possession of three unregistered machine guns and two silencers, and possession of firearms by a convicted felon.

T.I.: “Whatchu know bout dat!!!”

Judge: Mr. Harris, these are serious charges that could land you in jail for 15 years. I saw the weapons you are accused of trying to purc…

T.I.: (interrupts the judge) Well “BRING EM OUT, BRING EM OUT!!”

Judge: Mr. Harris…one more outburst like that and I’ll have you thrown in jail for contempt!! Ok, since you’re a tough guy, I will bring them out!

T.I.: Hey why you wanna go and do dat judge, huh! HEY, hey why you wanna go and do dat, dat, dat!

Judge: That’s some serious fire power, what were you planning on doing with that arsenal?

T.I.: “A nigga try to play me, I’ma blow em off the map ASAP”

Judge: So what your saying Mr. Harris is that you have total disregard for human life. Were you planning on using them because of the reported incident between you and another group at the Body Tap strip club?

T.I.: “Your honor, sucka niggaz can’t make me suffer, just make me stronger and tougher (it’s Motivation)

Judge: Well maybe this will motivate you…20years

T.I.: “AWW HELL NAWW!! It wasn’t me shawty, it was Tip! Fuck it im snitchin, I aint bout to do no 20 years for that nigga! I aint gone lie, I had a pistol but it was jus some lil shit. Tip told me that Big Shit was Poppin, and that I all my lil shit was stoppin. Your honor what was I supposed to do, Tip is violent! You heard what he did last time to Shaka from DTP the last time I let the light shine on him”

Judge: Bailiff, please escort Mr. Harris out of the court room.

Bailiff: (Grabs T.I. on the shoulder) Come buddy!

T.I.: "Get ya hands off me shawty...you dont know me"

T.I.: Fuck that shawty…Im da King knowimsayin!
October 19, 2007 2:47 PM
 

DSheezy said:

FUCK ALL THEM GUNS GIMME THAT HALF A ZIP.
October 19, 2007 2:48 PM
 

Boss Up said:

'busayo'
U must be a fan of Jason Whitlocks
October 19, 2007 2:50 PM
 

GawgaBwoy770 said:

@ gunot_17

Ray Lewis homebwoys didn't stick with him..That nigga snitched on them boyz to save his own ass..He was just as much involved in that shit as they were..As for Beanie he shot two different people in two different situations..He got caught with pills, weed and all kinds of shit too..I ain't saying I would like to see none of my brothers in jail but they going at high profile celebrities in a totally different way..They just found a lil white boy this month with more guns that T.I...Let's see how much time he gets and he had machine guns as well..His mother bought them knowing her son was planning on shooting up his school..Let's see how much time she gets..Instead of all the negativity we should be focused on making sure cases like these receive the same kind of punishment..T.I. got high paid lawyers but I bet he gets more time than the mother plus her Columbine minded son..
October 19, 2007 2:51 PM
 

Billy Bloc-O said:

Buyayo , I hope u beat ur head like that . Fuck off
October 19, 2007 2:54 PM
 

h_town_playa said:

TI gone be alright. he got too much money around him. sound like these new attorneys that he has are pretty good. too bad that he didn't get to see the premiere of his movie today.
October 19, 2007 2:54 PM
 

KingKareem said:

The UnaBomber had a lower bail than T.I.
October 19, 2007 2:57 PM
 

OSC-CEO said:

@GawgaBwoy770

Real talk homie...I don't think a lot of these dudes get it...they just want to make a joke out of everything..ain't shit funny about a nigga going to jail...but we must acknowledge that beans and ray didn't have niggas telling on them like TIP & VICK...that's what has them fucked around..


Like I said before...what he did was not smart by any means but i hope like hell he beats that shit.
October 19, 2007 3:02 PM
 

siqone said:

the situation is bleak
October 19, 2007 3:04 PM
 

themc said:

@Yadadamean--- hahahahah lmao







roc.a.fella.yo!
October 19, 2007 3:05 PM
 

MackSwami said:

Didnt he make a shit load of mills last year.
Why he need everybody to put money up??????
Why he have to put property up?

I hope he get off but shit aint lookin good.
He made it easy for'em.

October 19, 2007 3:09 PM
 

tha clear said:

What version of papoose's law library applies to this case?
October 19, 2007 3:08 PM
 

kuulski said:

2OSC-CEO

The funny thing to me is the Dumb Shit Black/Hispanic/Green/Yellow men do to get there.

Thats Comedy. I have friends/family that got knocked for dumb shit. Bad cops? Yes. A little shady with circumstances sometimes ? Yes. Most do dumb shit to get locked up? DEFINITLEY and this is a prime example. WHY WOULD HE NEED A HALF A POUND IN THE WHIP TO PICK UP GUNS!!!
I like T.I. but come on. Brains People!
October 19, 2007 3:09 PM
 

ar1134 said:

ok people lets think about this one for a second.... WHY would T.I. ask someone else to go buy guns for him, and tell that person to ask the gun dealer NOT to register the guns????? If T.I. wanted the guns to remain unregistered, why wouldnt he just flat out buy them himself, OR through someone he had known MUCH longer and wasnt just an employee???? It would seem to me that he would have NO problem having his bodyguard buy the guns and let them register them as long as his bodyguard is legit and not a felon, RIGHT? That bodyguard is suspect, not T.I.
October 19, 2007 3:10 PM
 

VAgogetta said:

damn homie. you was the man homie. fuck happened to you?

he done.  he can dig johny cochran out the grave and it STILL wouldn't look good for him.

TI need to take some of that money and get TIP to testify b/c TI ain't do it! TIP did this shit!!! LOL!!!
October 19, 2007 3:10 PM
 

GawgaBwoy770 said:

@ OSC-CEO

I co-sign what you said all day homebwoy..I been said the nigga was stupid but damn..Just like 50 said niggaz will build you up just to see you fall..
October 19, 2007 3:12 PM
 

baltimoreson3000 said:

@gawga....yo..I feel u..but ur trippin..Ray Lewis had nothing..NOTHING to do with the actual murder...and he got off becuz his prosecutors proved it and the defense had no other choice...I dont feel sorry for TI or any of these dumb ass rappers..becuz the fact of the matter is they have themselves in position to really take their lives higher...but they don't have the common sense to take advantage of if...they're their own worse enemies...its not even the crab in the barrel syndrome becuz they're doing it to themselves...they dont need nobody else, black or white, to do it for them..i know he's your hometown boy or whatever..but it is what it is..he fucked up..if Prodigy's ass is doing a 3 yr bid for a damn 22...imagine what TI could get...come on man..this is Fed shit...and trust they will make an example out of his ass.
October 19, 2007 3:16 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

@GawgaBwoy770:
Oh, aight. Thanks for straightening all that out. And wow, I didn't know ALL that about Lewis.
As for the white boy, I agree with you 100%, he gon' get nothin compared to what TIP'll get if he's convicted. That's plain f***** up, and that coming FROM a white boy (me.) I'm with you all the way, everybody should get punished the same for similar crimes (if convicted, of course), regardless of who they are.
October 19, 2007 3:18 PM
 

RealWords88 said:

T.I. needs to stop fuckin around. If they got him he needs to stop bullshitting and go ahead and plead out and start his time. 10 years is not that long. Suge did 8 years and he is back on the street causing havoc. If he pleads out now he can get out until sentencing. He can record an album and then go do his time. At least he will still have dough.

If he goes to trial then the lawyers break him. The court fine breaks him and when he gets out he is broke.

Shine is doing 10 years and he is almost out now.

I got dude that did 10 and they are out and still had money when they got out because they did not blow it all. The lawyers are going to tell him to fight, because that is how they get paid but, if the informant was sitting in the car going over the guns with you and the feds came and pulled you out the car, with the guns you just bought, you are got. They can't take his money because he earned it legally. He might as well do his time and hold on to the dough.

O.J. had reasonable doubt because he was not standing over the bodies when they caught him. T.I. was in the car with the wire and guns. Dude there is no doubt.

He should be smart. In ten years he can have money and be out. If he fights this losing battle he will lose all his money and in ten years there is a chance no one likes his raps.

TEN YEARS IS NOT THAT LONG.
October 19, 2007 3:18 PM
 

fdc629 said:

To the earlier post.....

There is nothing.....not a damn thing funny about another black man being behind bars!!!!!!!

I know T.I.P. made some bad decisions......but that $hit ain't funny period!!!!!!!!!

October 19, 2007 3:19 PM
 

OSC-CEO said:

@  kuulski

The crazy thing is you guys past judgement on shit soon as you hear it...there's two sides to every story...you guys are like females take shit and just run with it...why would he need weed in the car...maybe the shit was just alreay there or whatever....and that's not comedy...

if you want comedy watch an old episode of the fresh prince or family matters or something.

I really would love to see how some of you guys would react being in the same situation that he's in right now.
October 19, 2007 3:22 PM
 

Update On T.I. Pleads Not Guilty | said:

October 19, 2007 3:21 PM
 

Boss Up said:

why u guys judgin him?

wut the fuck u guys do thats so perfect?
October 19, 2007 3:32 PM
 

What More Can I say said:

T.I Need Papoose's Law Library right now!!! I hate to see T.I in this position, remember it's not how you fall off but how you get up. Stay up T.I.
October 19, 2007 3:34 PM
 

JrzeeMa said:

Yadadamean said:

Judge: Clifford Harris aka T.I.

*************************************************

Thats fuccin Hilarious
October 19, 2007 3:34 PM
 

OSC-CEO said:

Now this is some funny shit...a stupid thing to say but funny

RealWords88 said  "TEN YEARS IS NOT THAT LONG"

You are out of your dam mind buddy..do you know how much shit will change in ten years.


wow people are really crazy man.
October 19, 2007 3:36 PM
 

fdc629 said:

This whole situation sounds shady to me....i mean i don't know dude personally......but from the last time he got out of jail until now a lot has changed for TI.......hell since he got Punked on MTV dude has moved up to another level in game!!!!!!

When he got Punked dude was dead serious about how he was rolling clean.....i know it was before a airplane flight......but still.....once they let him in on the joke.....i remember distinctly him saying  that "man i'm a convicted felon ya'll trippin" or something to that effect.......

My point is why would he be slippin like that now!!!!!!

He has more to lose now than he ever did and it seems to me  dude was determined to not get locked up again.....

I may be wrong but i'm willing to bet there was some coercion from the body guard/informant.......

Plus the FEDS normally investigate folks for long time before moving in.........this investigation isn't even a month old....why the rush in locking him up....... it wasn't like he was going to go out commit armed robbery or go on a shooting spree......that N*gga was getting ready for the BET awards!!!!!!!


just my oppinion!!!

October 19, 2007 3:36 PM
 

GawgaBwoy770 said:

@ baltimoreson3000

I honestly don't think Prodigy deserved that much time for a pistol when niggaz actually killing and only getting double that time..I think the system is fucked up because I don't think a drug crime should prohibit a man from defending himself and his family..Think about it..Just because you got caught with some hard at 16 years old that means you can't have a gun in your house as a grown man  at 36 with all the violent crimes that surround us..I do feel what you are saying about them being ignorant and what not but it's been gun dealers that sold guns on the streets to kids and there was less done about it and I guaruntee they received a helluva lot less time and they put out 100's of guns..Think about it..

Also if you are a convicted felon or not and you just lost your homebwoy while you were on some other shit and just trying to perform and make your money, wouldn't it make you more paranoid? Especially if you were the real target.. If them niggaz kept sending threats at you and you are a hip hop artists, would you snitch and damage your credibility and lose the morals that you've been accustomed to your whole life Or would you man up? Don't be so quick to judge unless we've been in them shoes or at least thought about all the circumstances surrounding it..He should've went through the legal process but it had to be something that made him react so fast..He ain't right but he might not be wrong either..I rather do 6 behind bars for toting a pistol than be put 6 feet for not having one..
October 19, 2007 3:36 PM
 

abdulshaheed said:

The bottom line is this, black people are under a microscope as it is and if your hifgh-profile that scrutiny intensifies. That dude was fuckin dumb fro what he did and I don't feel sorry for his dumb ass. He just did a bid some short time ago and now this. He doesn't appreciate the fact that he made it out of Ohio's ghettoes. He wants to continue doing the same stupid shit that he once did, all the while living the life of a celebrity. If I was Tiny I would smack that nigga!! He put his family in danger with that silly shit. I bet he would give one of his kidneys to get out right now, but the fact is he may of had his last day of freedom the day he was arrested. He lives in a mansion, in a suburb of Atlanta, and can employ people who can legally hold arms so there is no excuse for what he did. Cats love to play gangsta but when they get the hard time that gangstas get they go into bitch mode. I know TI is scared to death right now. I remember seeing him on Punked wit his homeboy, all submissive and shit when the cops had him hemmed up. I don't want the kid to do time but if he does he isn't a victim. The HipHop police are watchin these dudes and its foul, but if you don't break the law you have no worries. TI officially lost!!!!
October 19, 2007 3:37 PM
 

abdulshaheed said:

@  fdc629 said: There is nothing.....not a damn thing funny about another black man being behind bars!!!!!!!

I know T.I.P. made some bad decisions......but that $hit ain't funny period!!!!!!!!!

I say his dumb ass should of thought about that beforehand.
October 19, 2007 3:40 PM
 

VAgogetta said:

@boss up

i bet if i'm at the height of my career makin' millions and potential for more millions and my kids are in school and my wife is straight, i ain't gonna go fuck that up just to be fuckin' it up!

if i'm blessed in a situation that he has, imma make sure that blessing keeps coming by doing what i gotta do by makin' i don't mess that up knowing i'm feedin' alot mouths ya dig?


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October 19, 2007 3:43 PM
 

On_Dat_Kryptonite said:

"Like I said before...what he did was not smart by any means but i hope like hell he beats that shit"

He has multiple weapons in his house, 5 of which were found loaded, he tried to purchase machine guns and SILENCERS, which, if no one realised, IS WORTH 10 YEARS ON IT'S OWN.

That is 25 COUNTS OF ILLEGALLY POSSESSING FIREARMS, ILLEGAL POSSESSING FIREARMS AMMUNITION, 2 COUNTS OFF ATTEMPTING TO PURCHASE ILLEGAL FIREARMS, 2 COUNTS OF ATTEMPTED PURCHASE OF AN ILLEGAL FIREARM ACCESSORIES, 1 COUNT OF DRUG POSSESSION which he claimed was for personal use but if under most circumstances that would be considered INTENT TO DISTRIBUTE AN ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE. Then on top of that he is a 7 time convicted felon. He obviously didn't learn to stay within the law the first 7 times so why should he be shown any leniency?

People really want him to beat the case when he has commited 30 SEPERATE OFFENCES?  

Show some sense, anyone one of us even got pulled with possessing an unregistered firearm, let alone possessing unregistered firearms as a former convicted felon, would see us going to the pen. He knew what he was doing was illegal but he still did it.
October 19, 2007 3:47 PM
 

GawgaBwoy770 said:

@ abdulshaheed

How do you know those weapons weren't to protect his family because of that incident in Ohio?
October 19, 2007 4:00 PM
 

siix3one2 said:

Y THE FUCK EVERYBODY FEEL SO BAD AND SHIT... NIGGAZ WANNA BE GANSTA SO U GOTTA DEAL WITH GANSTA SHIT.... POINT BLANK PERIOD... THATS WHAT HAPPENDS WHEN U DO GANGSTA SHIT IN DUDE RECORDS HE TALK DAT JAIL SHIT SO NOW HE CAN DEAL WITH DAT JAIL SHIT... PLENTY OF MY NIGGAZ DOING FOOTBALL NUMBERS FOR DOING GANSTA SHIT AND I TELL THEM THE SAME SHIT... DONT BITCH NOW STAND UP FUCKIT DATS LIFE..........
October 19, 2007 4:03 PM
 

jaeda said:

I would think T.I would have the 2.2 million to bond out! Im glad excutives are signing bonds on the behave of T.I.. It shows that they atleast care alittle bit about that nigga. When buying shit like that he should of went though someone he knew better than that snitch ass bodyguard. Truthfully i dont think he's going to beat the case,but i hope i'm wrong. Too many police branches were involved for this nigga to beat this case clean. Shout out to T.I. and his family. I wish the Harris family the best!!!!!!
October 19, 2007 4:04 PM
 

b_goat76 said:

I bet alot of ya'll do dumb little shit right now without thinking like, drinking and driving, smoking weed, getting the hook-up on some free clothes or that flat screen TV's, etc.... and if you were to get caught it would fuck up your little career making 20,000 a year. Ain't nobody perfect. If i ever become a felon that will not stop me from protecting myself, I will not wait on our Government or police to protect me. They have failed us and will continue to fail us.
October 19, 2007 4:06 PM
 

RealWords88 said:

This is to OSC-CEO

Yes, I must be out of my damn mind but, ten years is not that long. Yes things will change in ten years but, if dude goes ahead and takes him time now he will be done. Hell, he might get less time if he goes ahead and pleads out instead of wasting the court's time and his by trying to fight this thing.

Dude told on him. He set him up and they caught him in the car with the guns. Also, he had the other guns in the house. What type of defense could he have for that?

Sometimes it better to take it like a man instead of reaching for some bullshit.

If he goes to trial, he will be judged by a jury of 12 white people. They will sit the guns on the evidence table for everyone to see and then what? He will be convicted and get the max time. The lawyers will be loving it because they are making $400 per hour or better working on T.I.'s case.

I am just saying that the smart thing to do is if he is caught go ahead and take your medicine. He can make better use of his dough paying for his kids to live than paying for his lawyer's kids to live.
October 19, 2007 4:10 PM
 

Hip Hop Selection said:

Ricordate che a T.I. era stata negata la cauzione ? Beh, per la questione delle armi l'ha spuntata, ma purtroppo per lui dovrà affrontare un nuovo problema; infatti nella sua auto, durante una perquisizione, sono stati trovati circa
October 19, 2007 4:12 PM
 

fdc629 said:

Errybody has their own opinion so u can agree with me or not that's cool!!!!!!

u can be a crab in the barrel or down for the cause!!!!!!

I still got love for my people and i hate to see when we get locked up......even if we did f&ck up.......

locking us down has a deeper message behind it and there are plenty of innocent black folks in the pen.....it's no mistake that there is a disproportionate amount of us in jail vs whites

the message from the Government is...... to black people we can take ur freedom @ any point regardless of the circumstances.....we will make up some $hit when we have to if u get out of line n*gga!!!!!!
October 19, 2007 4:12 PM
 

VAgogetta said:

@siix3one2

that's what it is. nuff said.
October 19, 2007 4:17 PM
 

ACE HUSTLA said:

Stop Snitching!
October 19, 2007 4:18 PM
 

BLUNTBLAZER said:

DAMN MAC DRE GOT 5 YRS CAUSE SOMEONE SAID
THEY ALMOST ROBBED A BANK HELLA YEARS AGO MAYNE
THEY GIVIN OUT TIME LIKE PEOPLE AINT GOTTA LIFE TO LIVE. IF HE GO IN NOW HE'LL BE 37 WHEN HE COME OUT OR 33-34 GOOD BEHAVIOR. I THINK HE GONNA SNITCH ON DA BODYGUARD, DUDE HAD HELLA FAULTY THANGS GOIN ON N GOT CAUGHT NOW TRYNA DROP NAMES TO STAY CLEAN.
I BEEN LOCKED B4 N IT AINT NO PLACE TO BE NOBODY
SHIT I GOT LOCKED OUTA STATE IN VA AN IM FROM CALI DAT SHIT AINT EASY.

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October 19, 2007 4:23 PM
 

Cali_Q_T said:

Hopefully this wont turn into another case of another innocent man going to jail over some bull!!! I hope that he can bounce back from this, but then again they sent Martha Stewart to jail so
October 19, 2007 4:26 PM
 

Cali_Q_T said:

Hopefully this wont turn into another case of another innocent man going to jail over some bull!!!
October 19, 2007 4:26 PM
 

OSC-CEO said:

Listen here..This is America and everybody I don't give a fuck who it is has a price...even those 12 white people sitting up on that jury...money talks.
October 19, 2007 4:27 PM
 

siix3one2 said:

@
VAgogetta


U FEEL ME PLAYER IM NOT TRYNA BE ON KNOW FUCK TI SHIT ITS JUST OTHER WAYS TO PROTECT YOUR SHIT IM NOT SAYN DUDE DONT NEED A PISTOL IM A MIDDLE CLASS NIGGA AND I GOT A PISTOL U JUST NEED SUM REAL NIGGAZ AROUND U AT ALL TIMES IF ITS DAT BADD....THIS SHIT IS Y THEY TRYNA SHUT HIPHOP DOWN IT MAKES US LOOK BAD ITS PLENTY OF MUTHFUCKAS WITH WAY MORE MONEY THEN DUDE WHO AINT GETTING CAUGHT UP IN ALL THIS BULLSHIT..... SHIT 50 AND JAY NIGGAZ GOT WAY MORE MONEY AND THEY AINT NEVER CAUGHT UP IN THIS TYPE OF BULLSHIT.... FUCK ALL DAT FAKE GANGSTA SHIT.......
October 19, 2007 4:32 PM
 

JaylenRosa said:

The idiot sits in jail for another day.  That's great.
October 19, 2007 4:43 PM
 

b_goat76 said:

The reason I say free TI. Our government been fucking us(black) people so long it don't make sense. Look at all the civil rights activist that have been kill some 40 and 50 years ago and the Feds ain't do shit then, but now they want to go and arrest some 70 or 80 year old fuck and talk about justice being served. But they will spend all their efforts on dogfighting and buying guns, when they need to investigate all these noose hangings before it get real ugly in this country.  Yall sit around downing this man for guns that could have been for protection when there are bigger things to worry about.  We might have suicide bombers walking and living amongst us today 9/11 part 2 or some shit. All these white pedophiles kidnapping kids like its the thang to do(Ti has kidssss). Come on people i know he broke the law but damn ya'll ain't got to throw the man under the bus.  Why the Feds ain't investigating the KKK, The Arian Nation, THe Neo-Nazi i know they got felonies and plenty of guns. I guess David Koresh taught their ass a lesson. America has bigger problems than TI and Vick.
October 19, 2007 4:52 PM
 

kuulski said:

@OSC-CEO

I think it is comedy. Is it sad? Yup. Still funny though.

People with half a brain wouldnt put themselves in the situation he is in. Be real dont let color blind u. This guy makes MILLIONS and MILLIONS! But "BASED ON REPORTS" he had a Body guard he barely knew buy him guns he cant own. Then he sets the whole thing up over the phone IF ITS TRUE. IF what they are saying is true? He should be on Worlds Dumbest Criminals.
This is not a BLACK ISSUE this is a DUMB ASS issue. Meaning he is a DUMB ASS (IF ITS TRUE) A real issue is A underfunded education system. A real Issue is no HealthCare . You want comedy? Check your local news and get the latest T.I. or Britney Spears Update cause that IS COMEDY! lol
He dont represent any of the inteligent black people that I know. He dont represent any of the inteligent Hood People I know. He represents another group The DUMB ASS GROUP.
The people that constantly get locked up for Dumb Shit. Does he represent the Jenna 6? Is it the same thing? FUCK NO! Now all the Dumb Asses go get your Free T.I. Shirts. Fuck it I'll Cop 1 cause its COMEDY :>)


October 19, 2007 4:55 PM
 

jaeda said:

@RealWords88

Thats some real shit you spoke! I must agree with your point!
October 19, 2007 4:56 PM
 

kuulski said:

@siix3one2