Trials of TQ: The Cash Money Story

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Knowldge Build Allah — Tue, 13 May 2008 13:34:13 GMT

Good Story!

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Exec-Producer — Tue, 13 May 2008 13:48:42 GMT

First up!

Man, that's something else. After associating with different people in the game, we hear A LOT about those CMR cats. I hope they're doing better now.

Well TQ if you're reading any of these comments(which I doubt but it's worth a try), my company and I are in negotiations with 2 majors. I'm still trying to see if this is even a good thing. I'm the CEO/Executive Producer and I'm very much a paperwork man, so we'll see how this whole thing turns out. With that said, would you be interested in working together? Let's make some money if you are. Let me know. Hit us on myspace. One!

www.myspace.com/choiceizyours

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Water Ur Seeds — Tue, 13 May 2008 13:52:02 GMT

Yeh, phat story, TQ allday. I always wanted to know bout Him in the Cash Money era. Good look. Im'a big fan since TNSMC got all the joints since, apart from Paradise... which I will cop

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ipoppedoff — Tue, 13 May 2008 13:58:09 GMT

Dope read. I'm with it all the way. Can't wait to hear next week.

100.

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mu$h da great — Tue, 13 May 2008 13:58:20 GMT

not 1 maybach ..... 10 lacs comin through

ima have to catch the next installment that shit was interesting.

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mu$h da great — Tue, 13 May 2008 13:58:30 GMT

not 1 maybach ..... 10 lacs comin through

ima have to catch the next installment that shit was interesting.

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LXA — Tue, 13 May 2008 14:12:04 GMT

Nice writing, that was interesting!

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captaincornball — Tue, 13 May 2008 14:31:39 GMT

Damn, leavin us with them cliff hangers. Can't wait til the next installment.

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Jdub1911 — Tue, 13 May 2008 14:51:22 GMT

I've always been a big Cash Money fan especially the Hot Boy$ but I really feel that Baby is the primary reason that they're not together. If you're a true Hot Boy fan you all know that they were not beefing at all. Juve, Lil' Doogie (B.G.) and Turk were all upset at Baby not Wayne. So any so called fans who tried to drive them against Wayne are haters. Lil' Wayne is my favorite Hot Boy and has been since I heard "Block Burner" from "Get It How You Live" back in 1997 but I love all of their flows equally. They were all unique and brought a different flava to each track.

T.Q. is right, money is the root of all evil. As much as I love Wayne's success, (which I predicted back in 1998) I much rather see him shine with the Hot Boy$ all together instead of individually.

And for anyone who claims Weezy stole Gilly style, T.Q. kills that claim when he describes how Wayne recorded a track in one take while leaving his car running outside. And this all occured before Gilly signed with CMR.

Haters just face it, other artist really respect this dudes ability. If he was so whack like some people think he is (which is obviously untrue), he wouldn't be dropping 16's on everbody's ish.

But I digress, I'm not mad at Baby for fucking CMR up because we all make mistakes but he does need to realize what he had and make ammends. Give Juve, Gizzal, Turk and Mannie what the want, need and deserve!

Cash Money is Army................Better yet a Navy!!!!!

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still ill — Tue, 13 May 2008 14:53:26 GMT

@ Water Ur seeds

chill out hommie only a joke.

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KJDUBB — Tue, 13 May 2008 15:02:21 GMT

TQ is a cool cat man. He from Bama just like me (even though he doesn't ever mention it) but I still show him some love.

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risky $mith — Tue, 13 May 2008 15:07:04 GMT

T.Q is seriously a talented cat. He like a gangster Baby Face. This article was dope, I heard rumor TQ signed to Cash but then ....poof....never heard a word again. Look fwrd to the pt 2 of this read.

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allparish12 — Tue, 13 May 2008 15:12:41 GMT

Man, i think this was a nice article..he didnt come out bashing them cats like a lotta other bitter artists do when the deal dont work out..he kept it real, and stated the facts..cant wait for part 2!

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Asher "Black Bomb" Sommer — Tue, 13 May 2008 15:30:30 GMT

Another good read. I'll check back next week.

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DAREALGUNSMOKE — Tue, 13 May 2008 16:48:05 GMT

GOOD READING

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Cuttathegreat — Tue, 13 May 2008 16:48:37 GMT

Damn another good read...I gotta be honest I look forward to these stories. Especially because I'm from New Orleans so everything sounds totally true. It's no secret about what was going on at Cash Money...Can't wait for the next one!

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doeboi5000 — Tue, 13 May 2008 16:59:51 GMT

this stuff is interesting...

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kolorbl9d — Tue, 13 May 2008 17:29:54 GMT

Usually I rather see the movie then read the book, but this was cool. I'ma check the rest out next week.

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Ron — Tue, 13 May 2008 18:36:51 GMT

Man, this fool done reeled us in. We are actually waiting til next week like it's a sitcom. This cat has some good writing. He should make this into a tv movie or something. Hey T.Q. if you DO decide to do that, I want my piece of the cake from that deal, cause that was MY idea. ha..ha..ha

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Young Caine — Tue, 13 May 2008 21:07:47 GMT

@ Mush What u know bout Dat Slim shit??

AHH spoon feedin niggas n shit. Can't wait for the next installment tho...

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H Deezy — Tue, 13 May 2008 21:48:01 GMT

Interesting & informative story fam. Good to see you had good people like your lawyer and Baby's sister to look out for you. Still think you should of seen the signs before signing with them dudes, especially since you was making plenty bread without them but we all make mistakes. I wish you the best in your current endeavors and can't wait to read the rest next week.

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n!gga i can read! — Tue, 13 May 2008 22:33:46 GMT

AYE THIS IS A DAMN GOOD READ I'LL BE LOOKIN OUT FOR IT NEXT WEEK

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MizzNaeChail — Tue, 13 May 2008 23:08:02 GMT

Best story I've read on anything like this in a WHILE.

I'm from a town a couple hours away from NO so I've always been a CMR fan, and I always thought Wayne was gonna be crazy, you know? But it broke my heart when THB broke up. mean, me and some of my friends were crying. If you're from this area you listened to them like you read your Bible. We felt like we knew them. Shit, I even remember the days when they used to play a lil club we had called "Strawberries" and they'd have concerts on the teen nights even, and were the only acts that did so, and we always went out and showed them much love. They even would go eat next door at Montana's with some of the fans!! I mean I was REALLY hurt when they broke up!

Til I heard why...

Everyone makes mistakes. Baby needs to recognize his and give those boys what he owes them. From what I heard from my NO ppl, there's not much bad blood amongst any of them-cept Baby! And I think if he would quit being proud and make amends, then I could REALLY see a THB reunion tour. Maybe even another album.

I remember when they were messin with TQ. I was all excited, because even as young as I was, I thought he was so fine, LOL! And I loved his music. Hate to see that he got there when all the dirt was being done.

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Tommy K. — Wed, 14 May 2008 00:04:16 GMT

Yet another good read from the homey. That was some game on the real.

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UPTownPrince — Wed, 14 May 2008 09:27:59 GMT

Damn ever since the first article I seem to keep looking out for the next one's LOL. Dude has alot of informative info and on top of that dude is a lot smarter than yor average artist
(was @ the time). TQ keep pushin Big homie glad to see that you didn't go into that so called artist grave yard.

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UPTownPrince — Wed, 14 May 2008 09:36:48 GMT

Jdub1911 said: "And for anyone who claims Weezy stole Gilly style, T.Q. kills that claim when he describes how Wayne recorded a track in one take while leaving his car running outside. And this all occured before Gilly signed with CMR."

Explain to me how TQ kills the actual claim that Wayne Stole Gilly's stye? The whole thing he said was Wayne came in Killed in one take and left. That doesn't tell me anything, Any CM/HB fan can tell the difference in Wayne's style Pre Gilly & Post Gilly

You can tell Wayne switched his whole style and flow up.
I'm not trying to take anything from the dude but IMO he bit alot of this new flow he has gotten over the last couple years from Gilly if you ask me.

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Im_African — Wed, 14 May 2008 17:17:43 GMT

I like the story it was a good read but..... Does anyone else feel like TQ is exaggerating some of this shit. Who goes in a studio to record a 16 not having heard the beat or song concept and leaves the car running?? And if he did leave it running he must of lost hella gas but in 99 I guess it wasnt that bad!

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Syndrical — Wed, 14 May 2008 18:30:21 GMT

Good read
Can't wait til next week
Strings from the Chi .. is that the chick that had one song out back in the day that Swizz produced?
'Raise It Up' I think it was called

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Quiseebaby — Wed, 14 May 2008 20:13:02 GMT

This nigga should write a book! LOL! This nigga story kinda interesting.

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King Eljay — Thu, 15 May 2008 07:32:53 GMT

Wow.... funny story, I saw TQ on here and a was like "WTF....STFDown with that...."

Than i read it. This is some interesting stuff homie.

Im waitin for the next one.

And u a laker fan.... I was a kings dude back then homie. We shoulda got y'all...

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adopefemalemc — Thu, 15 May 2008 09:46:53 GMT

Dammmmmn, my brain is crazy, I was just thinkin bout "What ever happened to TQ w/ Cash Money earlier today" and this comes out..Eerie..Well, I'm all ears, I'll b here next week. Also, if u thought this was a good read, u GOTTA check out C-Murder's book 'Death Around the Corner.' I'm from the Bay and I could feel the spirit of New Orleans readin that book.. check it out! And check out my music while u at it!!:
http://www.myspace.com/keyannabean

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thevision — Thu, 15 May 2008 12:45:04 GMT

Extremly interesting. Its weird to read such an indepth view of something people have been speculating on for years. Good job and Im very pleased with your work. Do your thing champ. Ill be readin'

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Smashit — Thu, 15 May 2008 13:40:54 GMT

Good story and it's believable because TQ is not bad mouthing nobody and showing no hate - he's just giving it real

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Haughville — Thu, 15 May 2008 14:01:47 GMT

TQ, solid read my guy...........
looking forward to the next installment lil' rowdie.....

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East Gang 504 — Thu, 15 May 2008 14:01:54 GMT

Dont feel bad TQ i dont go to the 3rd ward with nothing less than a platoon with me and I grew up with most of them niggas. ( RIP St. Monica)

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TonyMalibu — Thu, 15 May 2008 14:31:59 GMT

The said thing is that I was always a CMR fan from the beginning. The thing that drew me to them the most was the "sense of family" they seemed to have in the beginning. Obviously, I wasn't imagining things...TQ confirmed it.

Interesting read...especially the part about Lil' Wayne ripping it in one take! I never knew dude had that kinda talent...Juvenile (who has the most star quality) was always my favorite Hot Boy, then BG (who has the most street quality). And Mannie Fresh quickly became one of my favorite producers.

Anyway, I'll be checking for the next installment for sure!

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BLUNTBLAZER — Thu, 15 May 2008 16:01:07 GMT

TQ MAKES HELLA SENSE
WAYNE HIT THE STUDIO WIT THE CLK STILL RUNNIN OUTSIDE
DAYUM THAS SKILLS

WWW.MYSPACE.COM/THAGRINDAHOLIC
KEEPIN IT GHETTO

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googiemike707 — Thu, 15 May 2008 17:36:48 GMT

TQ 1st CD is STILL the shit! much luv homie. "Westside"

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HTyson — Thu, 15 May 2008 18:14:42 GMT

I love this shit! Hearing the straight dope directly from tha artists themselves! Thats what up AHH! you just made up for that wack ass 26 days interview!

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bornnraisedCMR — Thu, 15 May 2008 18:30:56 GMT

That was a very interesting read. Good to hear a good non biased story about what was really going on back in the day with CMR.

But he stated what was obvious to me all along, Baby was the cancer in Cash Money. If it wasnt Wayne CMR would be just like Ruff Ryders and Death Row right now. So I guess Baby was smart for makin that nigga stick by him all these year.

What up TQ, I used to see you all the time down her in the N.O. back in the day fool. I remember you was riding in that red Hummer fuckin with them hoez on Canal St. pimp.

Keep the stories coming homie.

Sidenote: Baby's sister Kim, is that the one that died recently?

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GamezPOG — Thu, 15 May 2008 18:57:02 GMT

Nice interview.... gotta make sure your paperwork is up to par...regardless!!

Hedonis da Amazon
www.myspace.com/hedonisdaamazon

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bknewstash — Thu, 15 May 2008 20:25:07 GMT

gilly who? One take weezy since a youngin'.......

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WILLY KILLEM? — Thu, 15 May 2008 20:34:25 GMT

WOW.

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Lord Hade — Thu, 15 May 2008 21:00:27 GMT

Never been a CMR fan....NEVER!!!
But this was a good and somewhat informative story. I still can't give lil wayne alot of credit as a lyricist though, I just can't do it!!!!

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ExtendedKicks — Thu, 15 May 2008 21:22:57 GMT

LMAO at wayne leaving the benz running WITH a bitch riding shotgun. Good read.

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Young Havok — Thu, 15 May 2008 22:05:42 GMT

I always wondered what happened to this nigga when he was riding with Cash Money. I mean I remember seeing him in that one Lil Wayne Video off of 500 Degreez and shit but nothing else. That of course was at the time I stopped really fucking with them niggas. I mean 500 Degreez was lame compared to Tha Block Is Hot.

And I always knew Wayne was going to be best out of them niggas. Anyone here hear that one track off of Turks album Yes We Do? Wayne killed that shit. He was always my favorite.

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Jon J — Thu, 15 May 2008 22:16:07 GMT

Why do people keep saying he jacked Gillie's style? Wayne is on top and has been for years now! If Gillie is all that to be jackin then why is he not signed to a major deal? Have a major album? Recognized by people outside the east coast? Only way i know him is from ahh and you tube hatin' on Wayne! Go get a career and some money then talk and Wayne hater can support him. Look for the Wayne's Carter 3 album...in stores this summer! Look for Gillie's new album... in trunks and on street corners this summer!

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Hood2Burbs — Fri, 16 May 2008 00:00:11 GMT

@ Jdub1911

It's like my man said. Wayne recording that verse in one take has nothing to do with him biting Gillie's style. You might be making a good point, but not the way you said it. Maybe if we were talking about him stealing Jay's flow, but then again he did...but it doesnt matter because everybody's knows that Wayne loved Jay at one point more than he loved Baby.

Anyway, personally, Wayne went from one of the most promising emcees to an oversaturated pop artist. And the key difference in him now vs. The Carter era??? "Go D.J.". That's right. Mannie. He had his own sound at one point, but now he cries over tracks using a voicebox and calls it a delivery. It's not hate. It's real. If you like it you like it. It's nothing wrong with that. But '08 Wayne is nowhere near '04 Wayne.

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Hood2Burbs — Fri, 16 May 2008 00:04:59 GMT

@ Jon J

The industry is about image. If you sit up there and say everybody that deserves a deal has one, there is no point in having a conversation on music with you. But I don't really think Gillie has the much star power anyway. He's nice, but who isn't? Wayne at his best is smashing Gillie at his. The only problem is we havent seen Wayne at his best since the "Show Me What You Got" Freestyle

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arana roja — Fri, 16 May 2008 03:45:14 GMT

Wayne was the shit waaay before Gillie was with Cash Money!! The nigga was a fuckin KID wreckin shop. I was there in 1999 when he came and did a verse for Nelly's first album and he ripped that shit in one take! He may have been influenced by Gillie (or any of the thousand niggas he's been around) but Gillie ain't nowhere near this nigga's level. PERIOD

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RedDeezo — Fri, 16 May 2008 05:06:52 GMT

that shit is cold as hell....lol. Real interesting i can't lie dawg

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Mr. Wrecc — Fri, 16 May 2008 07:12:08 GMT

Peace

Yo the story was dope to read. I was wondering when the next installment would hit. That first TQ record was dope for sure. Lookin forward to tha next installment.

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city414 — Fri, 16 May 2008 17:12:26 GMT

"Seems the Birdman was Bird feedin’ ni**as"

chirp chirp

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city414 — Fri, 16 May 2008 17:55:31 GMT

some crazy quotes of the article

-Him and ol’ Rusty persuade me to chill out

-They tell me that they listen to my album so much that the CD warps, and they have to get a new one in every city.

-Juve was the hottest ni**a on the planet, everybody wanted him on their record, and Baby refused.

-What can you do with 50 whips? You spend most of your time on the road! When you get home, them sh*ts don’t even start

-my lawyer had got his hands on a copy of Juve’s contract just to see what we were up against. It was some bullsh*t! A slave deal with a million holes in it

..........

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Esq. of LastLeveL — Fri, 16 May 2008 21:01:39 GMT

Nice.

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jay_everyday — Fri, 16 May 2008 21:08:12 GMT

First off, let me say I appreciate that the dude can write coherently.

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Kalibur1200 — Fri, 16 May 2008 23:06:14 GMT

Good Article But it Was TOO SHORT (NO TOD SHAW)

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SDS Overfiend — Sat, 17 May 2008 02:50:07 GMT

Expertly wrote story. Laughing LMOA @ Lil Weezy not writing nothing though. If you don't know what happened after this then you been living under a rock. The CMR jerked alot of the Hotboys though on some bullshit. Too Bad Turk got locked up he was the best one if you ask me but that just IMO.

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Sovietnam — Sat, 17 May 2008 03:11:13 GMT

i dont know. i bought his first album. i liked it. It was different.

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J. Flizzle — Sun, 18 May 2008 14:27:43 GMT

i wanna hear mo mayne get to yalkin boutda money

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Moyo — Sun, 18 May 2008 17:44:28 GMT

I'm from Mississippi & I been listenin to CMR since '98, Damn this article just reminds me of how much I miss the hot boys. Their last cd guerilla warfare came out in late '99 right before the start of my senior year in high school(99-2000) & was the soundtrack for that fall semester. Them niggaz was tight, they couldhave been one of the greatest groups of all time if it wasn't 4 baby. TQ did tha damn thang with this article. Very informative, I always liked tq. I remmeber his 1st song "Westside", and he had a song "come see me" from the Trippin' soundtrack that was tight. By the time he was on CMR I wasn't fuckin wit' em no more because of the Hot Boys leavin', but the nigga been tight. I always wondered about what happened with him and Cash Money, guess we'll find out next week. O yeah I thught the Hot Boys had a reunion not 2 long ago??? If so that cd should be Fire!!! Chuuch. M.O.B.

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Karisma — Wed, 21 May 2008 18:55:25 GMT

I'm happy he is talking like man that controls his own actions and not like a victim. TQ is very talented and I thank all Hip Hop for allowing him to write. I can't wait for part 2. I always knew it was Baby causing all the drama within his own camp it's just sad that juve, and the rest of the HOT BOYZ lost friendships and money over it. Money will do that though right?

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Jdub1911 — Thu, 22 May 2008 18:04:16 GMT

Hood2Burbs said:
@ Jdub1911

It's like my man said. Wayne recording that verse in one take has nothing to do with him biting Gillie's style. You might be making a good point, but not the way you said it. Maybe if we were talking about him stealing Jay's flow, but then again he did...but it doesnt matter because everybody's knows that Wayne loved Jay at one point more than he loved Baby.

Anyway, personally, Wayne went from one of the most promising emcees to an oversaturated pop artist. And the key difference in him now vs. The Carter era??? "Go D.J.". That's right. Mannie. He had his own sound at one point, but now he cries over tracks using a voicebox and calls it a delivery. It's not hate. It's real. If you like it you like it. It's nothing wrong with that. But '08 Wayne is nowhere near '04 Wayne.
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My point was errr'body need to get off Wayne stealing Gillie style PERIOD POINT BLANK. Come on be real. Did he look up to Jay............yes. Did he emulate some of style from Jay..........yes. But just like Jay said in XXL interview a couple months back that you really can't single Wayne out because if thats the case a lot of rappers in the game has borrowed his style. But people only knock Wayne for that because he has so many more haters than other rappers in my opinion. Nobody criticizes T.I. and he certainly has some jay in his style as well as Kanye and a list of other rappers. And I listen to both of those rappers.

Why when a rapper is demand he is consider oversaturated? So if you were offered 75k-100k a 16 would you not make that money especially if you enjoyed the competition of making music. I admit his sound has change excuse me evolved to where he is now. Did you criticize Jay from rapping like Bone Thugs to how he flows now. Probably not. But because Wayne is so cocky and claims to be the best, people to offense like he's cursing out their mothers. Here again, if he's peers thought he was wack, believe me, they wouldn't have him feature on their records.

@ Uptown Prince

Here again, his flow has evolved and gotten better lyrically. R u listening to what he's saying or how he sounds. Come on bruh, it would be one thing if there was a claim that someone was ghostwriting for him but people tripping because they say he stole Gilly, OF ALL PEOPLE, flow. Whatever. If you're a true fan and I'm talking bout pre "Guerilla Warfare" you'll know that Wayne was the one in the Hot Boys that was always animated and brought it lyrically escpecially for his age, 14-15. Rapping is just like a hooping. If you're a student of the game you take bits and pieces of peoples game that you admire and incorporate in to your game. All this Wayne shit started becaue back in '03 he at the end of "Bring it Back" he said...."the best rapper alive, since the best rapper (JAY-Z) retired." This is when all the hate begin. Check the article on B.G. in last months XXL, where the reporter ask about Wayne and he said Wayne has always had talent and He's not supprised at all with his current success. Listen to his song "Ode to Hot Boys" and see what I'm saying.

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