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Different Spins : The State of Hip-Hop with Red Café, Rich Boy, And Soulja Boy 
Published Wednesday, September 05, 2007 12:46 AM
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By Ms. Zaida Khaze

What do Red Café, Soulja Boy and Rich Boy all have in common?  They are all part of the new generation of rap artists that have establisshed an immense presence during what seems like a crisis in Hip-Hop.  Red Café developed himself as a ghostwriter for some of your favorite rappers, like Diddy and Busta Rhymes, has a CD out with DJ Envy including the single "Dolla Bill," and will soon release his debut album on Shakedown and Konvict Music through Universal Records.  Sixteen year old Soulja Boy gained  attention through his dance routines, rap and lifestyle. Having amassed over 14 million hits on his myspace page, he is slated to drop his much anticipted debut album on October 2nd.  Rich Boy, who hails from Alabama, garnered a strong presence with his hit single single " Throw some Ds,"and came out with a strong debut album which reached number three on Billboard.


With these new artists leaving their stamp on the Hip-Hop industry while so many are flopping like it’s hot, who better to get answers on the demise of Hip-Hop than artists who found originality in an already saturated market.  Read on… 
 
 

AllHipHop:  How did you get your name? 


Red Café:  I grew up with the name Red, and Café [allowed] me to deliver whatever you need just like a café.   


Soulja Boy:  I got my name from my momma’s boyfriend.  The name was passed down to me.   


Rich Boy:  I got my name from my last name.  They used to call my father Rich, short for Richard.  When I was born, they would say, "There’s Rich boy."
 

AllHipHop:  What strengths or characteristics helped you break through the mold this year?  


Red Café:  I don’t compromise who I am is my biggest strength regardless of what is knocking at the door.  Plus, I’m consistent.  I was encouraged to make records that were trendy at the time but it didn’t represent myself. I didn’t want to compromise myself for the consumer by delivering to them what isn’t real.    


Soulja Boy:  My style is different from everyone else.  I have the talent and the look that many people like.   


Rich Boy:  First, I come from Alabama and that was a big issue because there were no artists on the label.  Secondly, my sway and my swagger were different for a new artist. 


AllHipHop:  Is there an advantage to being an underdog? 


Red Café: Absolutely. Underdogs don’t have any expectations set by consumers to sell ten million records.  Personally, it makes me work harder to prove everyone wrong.  And, whenever you do sell really well, people say they knew you had it in you.   


Soulja Boy:  People want to see the underdog die.  If you just see a nobody come from nowhere and you see someone hustling and grinding for a long time, and you finally see them with their own CD, that’s who people want to see do well. 


Rich Boy:  There is definitely an advantage to being an underdog because they don’t see it coming.  People aren’t aware of what you are about to come with. 
 

AllHipHop:  How would you describe the state of Hip-Hop?   


Red Café:  Once Hip-Hop really crossed over, songs became radio friendly in hopes of artists becoming national stars. Those types of songs get a lot of rotation but they do not generate album sales.  It ends up hurting us in the end because Hip-Hop came from the streets and when you make a “poppy” record with no substance and a shelf life of ninety days, it’s bad.  We need our artists to continue to be big so we can continue to be recognized.  Now, I think it is starting to correct itself and it is going back to the grass roots, back to independent records.  For example, Common Sense, getting 500,000 spins.  Kanye and 50 Cent are also coming back with real music and this will change music by the end of the year.     


Soulja Boy:  Right now, Hip-Hop needs something new and something needs to change with what is happening right now.  The South plays a big part in where music is now. 


Rich Boy:  It’s in an era where songs that are playing aren’t head banging. It’s more a certain feel good party song revolving around a dance move, where artists like Tupac used to talk about deep topics, world issues, racial profiling and things of that nature.   
 


AllHipHop:  How does Hip-Hop being in a slump work to your advantage or disadvantage?
 


Red Café:  Music changes all the time and artists do well depending on what people want to hear at that time.  I will have a following because it is coming back to my kind of music I have been creating.  In ’92, you saw how the West Coast changed music with Snoop, Dr. Dre, Daz and Kurupt.  Everyone was listening to that music.  Then Puffy changed it, East Coast music was rocking.  More recently, Lil Jon changed the music following to the South.  Now, it’s coming back to a different sound, you just have to get with it.   


Soulja Boy:  I used the internet to my advantage because it is  24/7 promotion and advertising.  With as many hits as I get on MySpace it’s advantageous.  And, when a new artist has a hot new single but nobody has ever heard of the artist, their album won’t do as well. 

 

Rich Boy:  I feel it will rotate back around to a time where there were more serious issues on the radio.  A few people put out some records that were played and everyone followed similar suit.  I used it to my advantage by coming out with something different. 
 

AllHipHop:  What do you believe contributed to Hip-Hop swerving in this direction?   


Red Café:  There aren’t any A&Rs.  One party song and an album without any substance.  We aren’t selling the lifestyle anymore we are just selling the dance move.  The artist has no identity, just one single.  Music is focusing all their energy and budget on one artist that has one record that they believe to be a hit.  It might be a hit for the radio but it isn’t doing anything for the culture or the artist in terms of longevity or revenue. 


Soulja Boy:  No comment. 


Rich Boy:   I believe that someone put out a track like that and everyone saw that it did well and jumped on that formula.  It’s like a casino where someone wins the jackpot.  Now, everyone has a recording studio. It’s comparative to everyone playing the slot machines trying to win the jackpot.  Yeah, everyone has talent but it is supposed to be a creative art. 
 

AllHipHop:  Which rappers contributed to this change?   


Red Café:  Like I said, it isn’t really the rapper, it is the people behind him, the people teaching them how to complete an album.  The people should make sure there are three or four of those kind of tracks before they jump the gun and release the album.  


Soulja Boy:  No comment. 


Rich Boy:  Cash Money, No Limit, Master P, and Puffy.  They showed the fruits of their labor on videos of cars and jewelry they purchased.  People watching the videos were like, “Damn, those are nice things.” 


AllHipHop:  Does the fast paced industry contribute to speedy completion of an album? 


Red Café:  Yes, because you run into a problem with scheduling.  Pop acts are doing really well with major labels and all of the budget is directed that way.  You aren’t getting any money, or support. You have to hope that you have a good relationship in the building or that your record is organic, reacting organically. Other than that, you are going to be jammed up.  Unless you are like the Clipse.  “Grindin’” took eleven months before it popped.  They stuck with it and it ended up going platinum.     


Soulja Boy:  I say it does, especially when you are amped to do an album. Later you look back and wish you had changed certain things.  If you take your time instead of rushing for completion, you probably wouldn’t feel the wrath of your sales.  It’s partly the record label executives' fault, if they rush a hot single and it flops. 


Rich Boy:  Master P dropped No Limit albums every month staying on the Billboard [charts], video and radio rotation.  Everyone thought that was the way to go and dropped albums consecutively. 
 

AllHipHop:  What advice would you offer up and coming artists? 


Red Café:  Stay consistent, work hard, don’t compromise yourself, and do homework on music.  Don’t jump out there and make decisions just based on today.  Make a decision based on tomorrow because you want to have a future.  I haven’t put out an album yet, but I am in a great place because if I had put out an album before, I wouldn’t have been relevant now.   


Soulja Boy:  Keep doing what you are doing, grind hard and don’t stop.  Find your own thing to do to rise to the top.  Personally, I used the tools of the Internet.  


Rich Boy:  I would advise them to be original and not listen to what they are playing on the radio.   
 

AllHipHop:  The South is killing Hip-Hop with all the snap music, comment? 


Red Café:  I don’t agree with that.  They are doing what they do.  The artists are coming out with songs embracing their culture.  People over here aren’t embracing the music.  That’s on us.  The people over here are being brainwashed.  We gotta do what we do over here.  We are killing everybody in every record.  No one is following our trend. We can’t blame it on the South, we just have to make better records.  The DJs and programmers, that’s an entirely different conversation, I was strictly speaking about the artists.     


Soulja Boy:  The South is giving people what they want to hear.  It doesn’t matter if it is snap music, or head clap, snare or whatever.  The result of Billboard sales is going to be what people want to hear.   


Rich Boy:  There are many reasons.  People aren’t paying attention, they are just focusing on Atlanta.  You’ve got the Hyphy movement.  All regions are contributing to Hip-Hop right now.  I don’t know why they are just labeling the South.  I don’t think it is just the South.  
 

AllHipHop: How did you manage to gain so much attention as an artist when so many new and renowned artists are struggling this year with album sales? 


Red Café:  It’s my character, people know that I’m real and embrace me.  I believe in myself and I stay consistent.   


Soulja Boy:  The videos, the music, the pictures.  I’ve tackled and touched on every subject you can talk about.  


Rich Boy:  Besides being different, having the perfect team.  A team really believed in me and went hard, put their life on the line.  You have to have a strong team that will not give up no matter what happens.     
 

AllHipHop:  In your opinion, do you think success will be easier or harder for your second album?   


Red Café:  Success would be easier for the second album because I already proved myself to radio and to people that were on the fence about me.  It takes going out there and busting your a**. 


Soulja Boy:  The first album they are looking for the underdog.  The second album, I am already here, and I would have been doing everything for a while and the listeners are going to be like “Well, what is he going to come with next?”  You have to come 200 times harder with the second album. 


Rich Boy:  I think I will be good because God shows me a lot of favoritism.  I really believe in God a lot. That’s all the places I give credit to because God carried me to this point. 
 

AllHipHop:  Do you think artists having their own sub-labels help or hinder the state of Hip-Hop? 


Red Café:  I think that is great because it brands the artist and gets the consumer involved with the brand.  It is almost necessary nowadays.  It’s hard to really answer that situation.  When signed to a big artist like that, you have a plus going for you anyway.  You are selling albums tagged to that man’s movement.  Timing is very
important.  I don’t want to put my album out when he isn’t hot anymore because I’ll definitely be hurting.  That’s a difficult way to answer that right there.


Soulja Boy:  They help a lot.  They bring their own style, group to the label.   


Rich Boy:  I think there are only supposed to be a few labels.  Like the NBA, only a few of them are going to make it.  Everybody got a basketball team but they’re not all NBA teams.   
 

AllHipHop:  Name three artists that have changed the state of Hip-Hop? 


Red Café:  Puffy – He made Hip-Hop commercial.  Puffy made a slew of radio friendly records that generated a lot of sales, and had a lot of number #1 albums.  Many people tried following him in his footsteps. Lil Jon – He changed the South with his album and many other Atlanta artists that he produced for such as Usher.  50 Cent – He made music really hardcore.  I think that is why so many New York artists tried to follow his example.  The only problem is I don’t want to hear fifteen year olds rapping about shooting people in their songs.  I don’t care if it’s real or bulls***t, I don’t want to hear it. 


Soulja Boy:  50 Cent – Because of how many albums he sold.  It encourages every artist to reach his or her goals. Young Jeezy – He was underground and too many people seem him grind for a long time until he finally made it big. Down South Music – They broke the barrier for a lot of other groups to get signed. They brought a completely new movement to the table.   


Rich Boy:  Lil Wayne –  He brought in the new generationJay-Z – Although T.I and Young Jeezy created a similar movement.  Master P – He put out No Limit albums in what seems like every month.


Comments

 

a.sea said:

1st...i finally did it
September 5, 2007 1:16 AM
 

kci said:

Y'all chose Red Cafe, Soulja boy, and Rich Boy to represent the new generation of rappers. No disrespect but lets be for real. The three of them wont go gold collectively.

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September 5, 2007 1:18 AM
 

dmack_k9 said:

NWA CHANGED HIP HOP. Rich Boy flow is nice. WTF with the no comments, HAHA
September 5, 2007 1:25 AM
 

a.sea said:

red was a credible source, and rich boy could e useful in a discussion like this. but what the f*ck were ya'll thinking even giving soulja boy the time. please.

it was funny how he had "no comment" for questions that basically put him out there as a wack a$$ artist.

is it just me or did it seem like red kinda went at him (soulja boy) a little when asked about the direction of hip hop.
September 5, 2007 1:36 AM
 

dmack_k9 said:

Oh ya Red is sick too. he got that street shit we need... the rest speaks for itself HA

http://www.myspace.com/k9bloodhound
September 5, 2007 2:01 AM
 

TYBOGGIE said:

**Red Cafe' is a Beast. His Flow is reminds me of Jay 's mixed with Obie Trice. And I like what he said about not compromising himself. Dude been grinding for awhile now. I remember him from EA Sports Sound Tracks.

**Not into the Soulja Boy Shit. (No Disrespect). But the shit is whack..

**Rich Boy. Yea I guess. I don't know.. Never heard a song by him.
September 5, 2007 3:47 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

I've heard a lot about Red Cafe though I haven't really heard none of his shit. I like Rich Boy's shit. His album was slept on.

Rich Boy... I don't like like the shit I've heard from him thus far. Another "dance" song... just what the game needs.....






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September 5, 2007 5:35 AM
 

LP2K said:

Red Cafe is a decent artist. dude can spit. he's been in the game for a grip too. i remember hearing him on a kay slay mixtape back when i was in high school like in 2001.

Rich boy has potential. havent heard much from him. i need to hear more to really be a believer.

soulja boy, not really into the whole rap songs that come with a dance music. i guess its good for the kids but not my cup of tea. he would have to show me lyrically what he has to offer.
September 5, 2007 7:09 AM
 

Slash said:

kci said:

Y'all chose Red Cafe, Soulja boy, and Rich Boy to represent the new generation of rappers. No disrespect but lets be for real. The three of them wont go gold collectively.

^^^^
ouch.
September 5, 2007 8:46 AM
 

allparish12 said:

Red Cafe...i havent heard anything by him, but the way he presented himself in the interview, makes me wanna take a listen and give him a chance

Rich Boy..i like dude..i think he is a lil different, but got caught up in pleasing the label with a couple of the joints on his album..he also gave a good interview

Soulja Boy..no comment..lol, that seemed to be his answer for everything..this dude will be looonng forgotten in 3yrs..and btw im from the south..and his shyt gets annoying after you hear it more than 3x, so people can stop generalizing saying everybody in the south like that kind of shyt!
September 5, 2007 9:09 AM
 

Mr.MDMP said:

Good interview, picced 3 people representing 3 different walks of hip-hop. Never heard of Red Cafe, he must be from the east. Rich Boy has some go, listen to the whole album and you'll see that. & Soljah Boy, quit hatin on that young man, that's the American Dream, he got to the big time from off his damn computer, aint gotta like the music, but respect the hustle

And to whoever did the interview FUCC U!!!! the south is not killin hip-hop we saved the bitch to be real. Snap music is an A-Town thang and represents only part of what we do in the south. I'm from Dallas so yes i'm biased about the dirty, but man if not for us hip-hop would be so muthafuccin boring right now. And not to mention we still have the best lyricist, story tellers, and G-shit the game has to offer. Anyone who thinks we killin hip-hop is #1 a commercial fan and only knows about what's on radio and T.V. and #2 Probably from N.Y. and just doin the hate thang as usual, i wonder if that chicken noodle soup or that aunt jackie shit woulda blew, what would ya'll say then. Ya'll have seen how we party, and we party best, but that's just the start as far as the south goes. We have ALOT of talent down here and when the game changes over and goes bacc to being based on substance and clever lines, we still goin run the game and alot of people will be suprised at the level of talent we have down here. Get use to us people, cuz the south ain't goin nowhere, we support eachother so atleast to us, we'll always be on the map. WHEW!!!!!! my bad, just tired of niggaz hatin the south, especially dem lame ass east coast niggaz who have no soul in thier music and wonder why people think they music is boring

QUIT HATIN DA SOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://myspace.com/playamayd
September 5, 2007 9:25 AM
 

Fawn said:

No Comment.
September 5, 2007 9:39 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

Interviewer:  Is Soulja Boy a f*cking idiot?

Red Cafe:  I believe so, cause you know he dont know no better.  He a young cat.

Soulja Boy:  No Comment.

Rich Boy:  Yea, but it aint just his fault.  Everybody contributed to it.  It takes a village to raise a child.  I know me and Red had real talk and his comments sucked but what you expect from Mr. Supa man that hoe...

Interviewer:  Soulja Boy, are you just going to say no comment whenever I ask you any relevant to hip hop questions?

Soiulja Boy:  No Comment man, ask Red Cafe and Rich Boy.  I just wanna make more snap music.


(p.s.  Not the real convos that the stars had, just pretty much how I translated it.)


Hood Proph- Hate it or love it
September 5, 2007 9:46 AM
 

Skinny Long P said:

Red Cafe got my respect for putting in a lot of work.  Not really a fan of his joints but he's a good lyricist. Rich Boy also not one of the rappers I keep in rotation but he has good heart and melodies for this rap thang.  
But Soulja Boy knows he aint got no respect...he does do his thang (on the internet) promotion wise and go head and get the money lil homie...but he seems pretty ignorant and simple minded.  He has songs like Yah Bitch and Shootout (a dance in which you kill everyone around you on the dance floor).  He represents thooze "lost ones".  
Rich Boy and Red Cafe both realize what the game is and what it needz....and they don't really have that regional biase against others.  Im from the South and Soulja Boy is bout nothin...his songs are catchy for people who dont even think about what they are sayin and made for girls and lil boyz.
September 5, 2007 9:49 AM
 

Mr.MDMP said:

Man i think somebody at AHH is doing some hatin, post my comment to

Good interview, never heard of red cafe, sounds lame tho
Rich Boy album was off the chain, be a real fan of hip hop and not a commercial fan and listen to niggaz whole albums before judging them as an artist
& Quit hatin on Solja Boy, Young man went from being on his computer to havin a video on 106 & park top 5, no he won't be around long, but he has done some shit never done, some true hustla shit, truly living the American Dream. He did what u suppose to do wit myspace instead of makin it one lame ass chat room type thang

And once more, to the dude or chicc that did the interview from AHH, FUCC YOU!!!!!!!! the south is not killin hip-hop we savin this shit, and we AINT NEVER been hip-hop in the south no way, but we still saved the shit. Snap music is a small part of southern music and if its lame why the hell the east coast start copying wit the chicken noodle soups and aunt jackie ass records. We party best in the south so we make the best party music, but we have the most talent, period. If u r a commercial fan all you know is the dance shit. If you listen to music, not just watch T.V. u know the south is holdin and we not going nowhere, the game is changin bacc, but it still won't be the east coast that shines when it does, the south still gone run it because we have some lyrical animals  down here and what seperates us from ya'll lyricist is we still have soul, rhythm, we know how to rap to the beat while ya average east coast MC may have lyrical ability thier flow is boring, N.Y. 3 biggest M.C.'s all rap like they from the south (Biggie, Jay-Z, 50 cent)
They ride beats nice and don't have that same boring ass monotone flo thru out the whole damn song The south aint going nowhere, u reap what you sew. Ya'll hated on all the O.G.'s who put out real music and now we got the game on locc and ya'll have to just watch us do us, and it won't stop no time soon

"QUIT HATIN DA SOUTH"-UGK

now if you don't post this one i know you hatin, but yet and still whoever did the interview FUCC YOU, the south is savin this hip hop shit
September 5, 2007 9:49 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

...After reading HoodProph's comments, Soulja Boy had this to say:

Soulja Boy:  F*ck Hood Proph, him just mad cuz he cant snap crackle pop like me, now on a neva note hey fans...NOW WATCH ME YUUUULLLLEEEE!! (hope I didnt dummy you down too much to double my dollas, but uh ni@@a gotta eat).




-HP aka Mr. Hate it or Love it
September 5, 2007 9:55 AM
 

DBaker said:

Wow how could you NOT mention MIMS almost 400,000 sold worldwide yeah theres a lotta flack because of the single but truth be told ONLY Richboy & MIMS has been the only two rappers in 2007 ( New artist that is) to soundscan over 300,000 units.
September 5, 2007 9:58 AM
 

N.O. Hotboi 504 said:

Figgaz always hatin all them dudes are gettin mo money  give them boyz a break all cool except SOULJA BOY gotta see what he do as far as rappin goes he got the dance moves down Him and Hurricane Chris in the same boat on one hit wonders A BAY BAY Crank Dat Soulja Boy
September 5, 2007 10:08 AM
 

N.O. Hotboi 504 said:

QUIT HATIN THE SOUTH REAL TALK NY NAW MEEN B
September 5, 2007 10:12 AM
 

Mr.MDMP said:

@hoodgrown, i checced ya'll shit out and you niggaz SUCK!!!!!
real talk, not tryin to hate but you should never down talk another rapper in yo life from the north,south,east,or west. Ya'll on the exact type of shit that gets no love in the south, boring flo, boring beats, don't hate on nobody else, cuz u niggaz is trash, 4real
September 5, 2007 10:16 AM
 

reggiesmithnineclip said:

September 5, 2007 10:20 AM
 

ked35 said:

Quit hatin on Soulja Boy. he young he like 16 or something like that. he don't know no better
September 5, 2007 10:29 AM
 

Boss Up said:

Soulja Boy is an idiot, he won't be around next year...
September 5, 2007 10:39 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

AIight.. how do I respond to this asshole...
1. First, to each his own my dude... you don't have to like what I put out.. that's life

2. And if your ass can read... you would see that I didn't hate on the south dickhead.

I stated that I liked Rich Boy. He's from the south right? So how the fuck am I hating on the south!!!

3. I don't like Soulja Boy. So what!!!

If you don't like every artist from the South you're a hata????  Get the fuck outta here.

Or do you just like every artist from the south JUST BECAUSE HE'S FROM THE SOUTH??? If so, that makes you a dick rider!!!!

4. What the fuck do you care about what I like or dislike? There you go riding dicks again. If you gonna ride dick faggot.. make sure you change your panties before doing so.. cause it's not a good look...

dumbass.....







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September 5, 2007 10:45 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

oh.. and I checked out YOUR SHIT on myspace Mr.PenisMouth....
TRASH RAP.....

and u got the nerve to ride MY DICk...






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September 5, 2007 10:48 AM
 

trestarr said:

yeah i can understand havin red cafe n rich boy but soulja boi.... even tho he young n all he still wasnt needed 4 this interview.

check tha illest mc comin out of VA

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September 5, 2007 10:51 AM
 

Fawn said:

No comment.
September 5, 2007 10:53 AM
 

Calisgiftmusic.com said:

a.sea said:
it was funny how he had "no comment" for questions that basically put him out there as a wack a$$ artist.

So true lol He was the answer for both them questions

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September 5, 2007 10:54 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

All this south vs east coast stuff is so stupid.  Divide and conquer is that slave master tactic that still ruins the Black Man today (dont matter what region he from).  Who needs 'The Man' to hold us down anymore, we got it all under control.  Meanwhile the jewish and european bred caucasian record label execs make money no matter where the music shifts (east, west, south, midwest).  So they get two birds with one stone (keep the power in the hands of the haves, and divide and conquer the have nots).  Nothing more sad than seeing 95% of people argue over bread crumbs that fall off the table, meanwhile the other 5% enjoy the loaf on the table...God Bless America.

@ked35
I feel you on soulja boy, he a young dude making songs for the kids.  He aint the blame, its these radio stations and record labels.  We adults share the radio with the kids, I dont want to here that all day.  Them advertisers who pay for radio are paying to suck the life out of my brain too, not just the young kids.

Wheres the radio for the guy not old enough to want to listen to steve harvey radio all day, but not young enough to want to hear all that snap music either?

America still hasnt built a haven for the young intelligent Black Male.  Theres more and more of us so this is sure to change.


-HP
September 5, 2007 10:55 AM
 

stayhumble said:

Soulja Boy is a fucking idiot and needs to be in school!  Didn't public schools start yesterday? I dont care about him getting 10 million hits on myspace-thats just alot more ignorance than we can explain!  THANKS NAS......HIP HOP IS 6 FT UNDER!!!!!  At least Rich Boy has some type of brain capacity!  Red has been doing it for a while and he;ll get his chance!  Just stop all ignorant hip hop-Soulja Boy, Hurricane Kris, D4L, etc....
September 5, 2007 11:01 AM
 

RedCoat said:

I respect Rich Boy  music
The south has something to say

The Mighty Network Coming Soon
September 5, 2007 11:05 AM
 

Jaybëëzle said:

New Generation huh? Red Cafe is the only one I got respect for...who the fuck are the other 2? We'll be watchin Soulja Boy & Rich Boy on VH1 2 years from now on a special of...

'1 Hit Wonders....The New Generation'
September 5, 2007 11:07 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

rereading my original post... I see why  
Mr.MDMP  thought I was hating on the south... I typed:


"Rich Boy... I don't like like the shit I've heard from him thus far. Another "dance" song... just what the game needs..... "

when I meant to type

"Soulja Boy... I don't like like the shit I've heard from him thus far. Another "dance" song... just what the game needs..... "

September 5, 2007 11:10 AM
 

LP2K said:

Hey look, im doing "the souljah boy"


"No Comment"
September 5, 2007 11:11 AM
 

RedCoat said:

RIch Boy - I fucks with dat yung boy he got some real shit to say listen to ' Lets Git Dis Paper on his album " before you judge him

Red cafe- Never heard of him the Red I know is Yung Coat

Souljah Boy - I like da dance buts its really some mediocre shit
basically the shit iz weak


New RedCoat Coming soon


September 5, 2007 11:11 AM
 

the_dboy417 said:

Soulja Boy I'm about 99.9999999 percent sure will be a 1 hit wonder. Red Cafe may never blow as an artist but he'll get money with his writing ability. Rich Boy to me has kinda already proved himself. He may not have put up monster numbers but then again who has?
September 5, 2007 11:13 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

to reiterate....

RICH BOY I'm feeling. I think he has an album that was slept on.







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September 5, 2007 11:17 AM
 

King1122 said:

@:Mr.MDMP
Biggie, Jay-Z, and 50 rap like they from down south?  

50 is top 3 from NY?  

lmao, that was pretty damn funny.  I don't know why yall south dudes think NY hates on the south, cause we don't.  There are lots of MCs from the south with substance.  But most of them don't get spins, just like NY MCs, or west coast MCs.  If the game is boring, then you're listening to the radio too much.  For example, Dead Prez, Three 6, and UGK been out for over 10 years, and just started getting spins(except Dead Prez).  These dudes got something to say, but thats not whats being pushed right now.  Thats the problem.  Soulja Boy should not get air time.  That is strictly some club shit.  We all being force fed catchy bullshit.  

In music, people with something to say usually either talk about whats going on around them, or the big picture.  Now, we are being programed to lay down, and act like everything is all fun and games.  Our situation as a society is grim, and it don't have shit to do with regional wars, or who's better than who.  I could care less who anyone else thinks is the best, cause everyone is entitled to their own opinion.  

Music is the voice of the people...a battle cry for the struggle.  'Media' (I'll call it that for now) is taking that away from us.  They use propaganda to turn us against each other and shift our awareness of whats going on around us.  We need unity now more than ever, yet blacks have segregated ourselves from eachother.  Classic divide, and conquer.  'Quit hatin on the south', east, west, and quit hatin on eachother.  It goes both ways family.  Open your mind to whats real.
September 5, 2007 11:19 AM
 

Cinatra said:

Bottom line, if the major labels think its hot, its hot. It does'nt matter if its from the south, west,north, south, wherever!!!! They control the game. If they want the south to blow, then guess what, you may just get a deal even if the streets think its garbage. wanna talk about changing the game, all due goes to Master P. I know, a few people might question that statement. P started No Limit with 10 grand, managed to con Priority into giving him a distribution deal. Then he actually paid Priority to press up releases. That allowed him to keep 100% of album sales. so a no limit artist that sold 200,000 cd's got more paper than Mase going platinum. Did anybody stop and think how the hell Master P ended up on the Forbes list at #16, two slots above Diddy in 97-98? P opened the doors for all of these independent labels we have now. The problem is, the major labels trying to cater to the street. and when that happens, the exposure is limitless. Thats why Hammer popped of like he did; cause he got with one of the giants. He could have been from anywhere on earth and it would'nt have mattered cause he sold millions thanks to the mainstream hip hop audience, white kids 10-25yrs. That is what has guided hip hop. The giants will put you on, but the streets will keep you relevant. case in point, whatever happened to D4L?, Dem franchise boys? Some artists get money of the latest trend and fall back. not hatin by any means, I mentioned these two groups because I personally have'nt heard anything from them since 06. But at that time, you could turn on the radio without hearing laffy taffy or ohh I think they like me!! But you look at the artists from the south that stay relevant, none of em got a lot of love at the start of there careers. Scarface, UGK, T.I., Outkast, Jeezy. All of em had the streets before they were invading white suburbia. Scarface can drop an album tommorrow and everybody on the block would know, from Cali to Japan. Thats what happens when your true fan base follows the movement of an artist and not the fad behind the artist.
September 5, 2007 11:25 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

@Cinatra

Very True....





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September 5, 2007 11:29 AM
 

Mr.MDMP said:

@hoodgrown

Never said you was hatin on the south, now i don't post on here often, but i read alot and everytime its a post you be commenting on everybody like you some kind of leading authority or like you got some go, so i checced you out and u niggaz succ fa real. Don't understand how you seem to always rate the next man when you have no go what-so-ever. And if they from the south i will show love and respect the hustle, not dicc ridin but its a south thang u wouldn't understand. We know how hard it was for us to rise to prominence on a national scene, so whenever anybody get on we respect it. Soljah Boy make club music and the women shake it hard to dat shit, dat's what its for, nothin more nothin less. What else you wanna hear in the club, sho'll the hell not no Hoodgrown shit, and ya'll tried to make a club song and that shit succed, why knocc soljah boy if you tryin to make the same type of songs.

And for the record pimpin, you know i'm KILLIN yo shit,(i know u know im killin yo shit) & only faggots stay tryin to call somebody else a faggot, i just said you niggaz trash, no disrespect to ya manhood or nothin like that, u niggaz just can't rap, and if what you do is real hip-hop, then hip hop is dead, & it ain't never comin bacc. Fake ass internet thug ass nigga, get real

@King1112,

Hell yeah they rap like they from the south, the way they ride beats, the old school samples, and they whole swag is more southern than east coast. Remember Jay even said his favorite group in rap was UGK, now i agree that the folks with somethin to say really ain't gettin no spins and that its all designed to make us weaker, but its not soljah boy fault the radio stay playin this shit, and ive always been an underground rap type nigga myself, and hell yeah u niggaz music is boring, from top to bottom, no soul, just robot soundin muthafuccas who picc wacc beats and then can barely stay on beat, ya'll got some good people up there, but the south has ya'll beat by a longshot
my mind is open to what's real, but from fake ass internet bloggers to ya'll rappers and d.j.'s ya'll be hatin, and the more the south come up the more ya'll shout hip hop is dead, its no surprise because ya'll hated on the west once they rose up too. Ya'll just some jealous bitches and what's real is regional divide will always be here because its differences in every region. When we was forced to listen to NY music all day and see nothin but NY videos, we didn't hate, we just got on our hustle and got it nigga, and for the record, we will always support each other down here

as always before i bounce,
QUIT HATIN DA SOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 5, 2007 11:35 AM
 

Fly Boi said:

Rich boy CD is a beast. And some people may not like Souljah Boy, but who cares, cuz when that song comes on in the club, everybody gets bucked.
September 5, 2007 11:47 AM
 

Mr.MDMP said:

@ Cinatra, now that was real talk, i just want folks to respect the south and know that dance is not all we about, we got real talent down here, and in the south more than any other region in America you can make money without a "giant" behind you because we are loyal and we "listen" to music, its so many indies down here and niggaz is owning houses, cars, and supportin they family off music in the south without a major, and we quicc to reject whatever a major throw our way, if we don't like it, we don't like it, if we feel it, we bump it, point blank period, the south where its at fa real and just wish people would stop throwin that dance shit on us, and about DFB & D4L, them niggaz will be bacc, after you get over exposed like that you suppose to dip off for a minute then come bacc fresh, & Faibo been poppin up on verses lately.If you ran ALL of 2006, in 2007 you suppose to take a break, spend ya money, & come bacc after people say what happened to ya

and 1 more time for the hataz on AHH,
QUIT HATIN DA SOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
September 5, 2007 11:48 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

@hoodgrown

", but i read alot and everytime its a post you be commenting on everybody like you some kind of leading authority or like you got some go, so i checced you out and u niggaz succ fa real. Don't understand how you seem to always rate the next man when you have no go what-so-ever."

Stupid bitch. That's what the fuck it's for. To post comments. Hell, it does say "comments" below. In case you haven't noticed dickhead everyone is posting opinions. So fucking what. Yes, I post my opinions and will continue to do so regardless of what a faggot like you may think.

But I see, you picked me out of the line up. You're watching me from a far, huh, like some type of deviant stalker. I see or a love struck school girl. Wow!!! What a bitch!!


"And if they from the south i will show love and respect the hustle, not dicc ridin but its a south thang u wouldn't understand."

"We know how hard it was for us to rise to prominence on a national scene, so whenever anybody get on we respect it. Soljah Boy make club music and the women shake it hard to dat shit, dat's what its for, nothin more nothin less. What else you wanna hear in the club

It is DICK RIDING.. because just because they from the south doesn't mean they're good. Just like just because a nigga from the east means he's good. Or on broader terms.. yeah I love my (black) people but that doesn't mean I have to like all the dumb shit that niggas do.


"sho'll the hell not no Hoodgrown shit",

Wow... still riding my dick. Well keep it up bitch cause all you doing is sending more traffic my way.

" Fake ass internet thug ass nigga"

Far from it dick head. I don't go starting shit. If you would have never put my name in your little faggot as post then we wouldn't even be having this conversation at all.

oh yeah.....

I do get love from the south...

everytime I visit your mother's house.. you bitch!






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September 5, 2007 11:51 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

 
"Fly Boi said:
Rich boy CD is a beast. And some people may not like Souljah Boy, but who cares, cuz when that song comes on in the club, everybody gets bucked. "


See I can respect that. Cause you understand that everyone might not like the song... and your attitude is SO WHAT. WHich is real.
September 5, 2007 11:54 AM
 

King1122 said:

@Mr.MDMP-

You missed the point completely....Maybe it's over your head.  

Dude's from the south like you keep that dumb ass "Quit Hatin" shit alive.  Nas said a simple statement, and that HipHop is dead.  Y'all took it upon yourself to think he meant the south killed hiphop.  The south doesn't reflect all of hiphop.  The game in general is fucked up.  That whole hatin shit is corny, cause don't hate no body.  People like you do the most hatin...
September 5, 2007 11:54 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

imagine this people...(if I could only draw, it would be more powerful)


A white family sitting at the dinner table.  Two little white kids (boy and girl), a white mother, and a white father.  White father just smiling from ear to ear, happy that hes king on his thrown and able to provie for his family.  Looking at the huge loaf of bread on the table (he has fork and knife in his hand).  Little white boy in his own little world about to plunge a piece of his bread  at his little sister with his spoon (he has so much bread he can afford to throw some away).  The little girl asked her father if she can have another piece of bread.  Daddy's little girl always gets what she wants.  And finally mother is looking at the floor, completely shocked and awed by what she sees.

What she sees is roaches on the floor arguing over bread crumbs:

roach 1:  roach, I been waiting here all this time for some of them white folks to drop one of these crumbs, you better move a way from it homie.  Dont start nothing wont be nothing.

roach 2:  Oh its about to go down up in here.  Just cause you got prettier antennas, you think you deserve the first bite of this here crumb.

roach 1:  Dont hate on my antennas dog.  You just mad, cause they always step on your kind first.  Get your antennas up homie and you'll survive a little bit longer.  But enough of all that, Imma have to bust yo ass up in here if you dont step away from this crumb.

roach 2:  its all good I aint worrying about it.  I'll just wait.  Imma keep on praying to God to get prettier antennas and my own bread crumb.  Eventually God gone feel sorry enough for me and give me a handout.  I mean after all it aint like God got better stuff to do then sit around and wait for me to pray about materialistic simple shit.

roach 1:  Yea true that.  But lets fight anyway, cause Im still worked up from all this fuss.  Plus we roaches, I mean aint that what we should be doing?

roach 2:  Yea my roach, Imma roach for life, ROACH LIFE!! in this bitch.  (With that roach 2 threw up some roach gang signs and punched roach 1 in the face, then stole the bread crumb)

roach 3:  (Roach 3 didnt engage in any of the drama.  As roach1 and roach2 were fighting, he just climbed up one of the table legs to get him a piece of the larger piece of bread).

narrator:  (good luck to roach 3 as he tries to pry some of that bread out of the hands of those white folks.  But his alternative I guess, would be engage in the fight between roach 1 and 2.)

roach 4:  Just sat back and watched roach 1, 2, and 3 do there thing.  He didnt feel that he should do either.  So being indecisive and stressed because of it, he lifted one of his wings and pulled out a "L" and a bag of tree and did what he does best.


Narrator:  As all of this unfolded, white mother alerted the family to what was going on.  She especially wanted the children to see.  She wanted to make sure they knew how she never wanted them to turn out.  She always made sure that the kids didnt watch the roaches with out her or white father's consent.  They could never watch them after 8pm, and without her or white father being around of course to "interpret".  White father didnt engage too much in what was going on on the floor with roach 1, 2, and definitely not 4.  he was more concerned with watching as roach 3 was climbing the table leg coming near what he felt was his rightfully owned bread.  So he busied himself with debate iver rather he would give roach 3 an incentive/road block piece of bread to keep him busy or would he just squash him.  Cause I mean after all, in white fathers eyes, he was just a roach...(to be continued)





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-Hood Prophet  (aka Mr. hope I live longer than Malcolm did)  
September 5, 2007 11:57 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

"When we was forced to listen to NY music all day and see nothin but NY videos, we didn't hate."

And if you read my past post like you say you did.. you'd know that I totally agree with the statement and have spoke on that as well.

so don't read a few post and then act like you know me...






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September 5, 2007 11:59 AM
 

j4mixx said:

soulja, rich, and red got good songs out there right now but just like "boss up" said it 'they wont be around next year' like soulja. but as for rich and red they only come around when they have a hit than they fall back.
September 5, 2007 12:03 PM
 

Fawn said:

No comment.
September 5, 2007 12:08 PM
 

Fly Boi said:

 @Mr.MDMP - You spoke the truth about the South!!! I rep the down bottom all day (504 Boi), but I gotta show luv for Hoodgrown, he's one of the East Coast cats that don't hate on the South. He usually has a non biased opinion and you gotta respect that.
September 5, 2007 12:13 PM
 

Mr.MDMP said:

Man damn hoodgrown, u r very sensitive and i must have hit a spot wit yo ass, and all ur comebaccs are very junior high type shit, only reason i called you out is because you have a comment on every muthafuccin post and you are in no positon to try and call another trash based on the music i heard from you, real talk. And how you not a internet thug wit comments like everytime you go to my "mother's" house, man get real pimp, is that the best you can do? If that ain't young actin i don't know what is, but just to show you what a real nigga do i'm still not going to take any shots at you personally, ya music is just trash. And I never said i thought solja boy was good, just respect the young niggaz hustle, and if havin respect for a niggaz huslte is dicc ridin to you then you will never make it because no one will respect yours, like Fly Boi said, when it come on in the club it gets crunk, and that's all its for. Now look at how you act when somebody says somethin about your music, but you feel its cool to "comment" on everyone else's music? Very sensitive indeed, quit showin ya gay tendencies playa wit all that gay talk, Fake ass internet thug ass nigga

@King1112
Aint nothin go over my head playa, that's what i be talkin about right there, actin like people from the south is dumb, we can't be that dumb because we eatin good below the Mason Dixon. No the south doesn't reflect all of hip hop but its no coincidence that sence the south has been on the rise ya'll shoutin that hip hop is dead shit, & it comes from more than just a simple statement from Nas. Kay-Slay,Pappoose, Funk Master Flex, and even the muthafucca who did this interview all have taken shots at the south  "AllHipHop:  The South is killing Hip-Hop with all the snap music, comment? " What the fucc is that? How the hell am i keepin up the hate talk wit comments like those, if that's never said then folks from the south would never trip. Truth be told we have NEVER liked what ya'll call hip hop, the shit has always been lame to us, alright b, a yo kid u know what i mean god-all that shit is shit we make fun of and have been doing so for a long time now. Pimp C said it best, we make country rap tunes and we happy wit who we are as a people. One more time just in cased you missed it, I AGREED wit the fact that alot of shit is being forced on us thru radio & T.V., and I AGREED that all regions have some people that can go, but the south is not killin this shit, we savin it 4real, and we only gettin better, and once the game shifts bacc to content, we still ain't goin nowhere, we got too much talent down here. And even when the nation stops fuccin wit the south, we'll do what we always have done, support our own music and show love to the next amn on his hustle. Until NY can stop beefin eit eachother and be grown ass men and show love to the ones around em, ya'll best hope will stay 50 cent(who raps like he's from the south) The game is fucced up, but the south is still doing thangs right, if people step up they game and checc out more than what's on TV and radio, they'd know that

Scarface,UGK,Outkast,Z-Ro,T.I.,Young Dro,Trae,Tum-Tum,Mr.Lucci,Mr.Pookie, BallPlayaENT, Rob G, Rich Boy, Tricc Daddy, Ricc Ross, Young Jeezy, Juvinille, Lil Wayne, B.G., Chopper City Boys, Lil Boosie,Lil Webbie, Jody Breeze, 8Ball & MJG, Foxx, and to many other muthafuccaz to name right now. If you want substance go checc out any one of theze cats, and don't give me no bullshit bout "Wipe Me Down" cuz if that's all u know Bossie and Webbie for, you don't know shit

Now i'm bout to go grind like im suppose to so ONE MORE TIME b4 i go

QUIT       HATIN     DA     SOUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oh yeah, since i'm on here

Playa Mayd's President 2: 2nd Term (double CD) drops September 28th, not a mixtape a profesional album wit over 30 traxx of original music

http://myspace.com/playamayd





September 5, 2007 12:39 PM
 

black maybe said:

this nigga(rich boy) 4 head, damn!

September 5, 2007 12:41 PM
 

Mr.MDMP said:

@Fly Boi, man all i can do is spit the truth cuz i love where i stay and i'm tired of niggaz gettin mad just cuz theze dudes is gettin money and they not, and ya boy hoodgrown may not be a hata, i never said he was, just said i checced his music out and his shit SUCCS, so he should be more carefull next time he talkin down on any cat that raps and is on his hustle, because he is trash 4real, never called him a hata, just called him trash and he's not one who should be rating anybody. And you from the south so u know what it is, Dirty South Hustlin all day long, stay up pimp
September 5, 2007 12:47 PM
 

King1122 said:

@ Fly Boi-

I can't front like that Soulja Boy shit dont make the club go crazy.  It's a perfect for the club, but radio can play some other shit besides playin it 50 times a day.  It gets old pretty quick.  We need all type of rap, not just one.
September 5, 2007 12:55 PM
 

SinRoc187 said:

myspace.com/warfieldaotentertainment

The NORTH, SOUTH, EAST WEST....WHO GIVES A SHIT?? Hip hop purist KNOW good music when it's heard. OUTKAST, CEE-LO, TRICK DADDY, THE OL' UGK, SCARFACE, GETO BOYS, OL' MC EIHT, DJ QUIK, NWA, PAC, BIG, KOOL G. RAP BIG DADDY KANE, JAY-Z, EMINEM, TWISTA, SNOOP, JUVENILE, LIL WAYNE TIP, COMMON......Man the list goes on and on. And I'm from NY!!! get off that crabs n a barrel mentality. if u dance to dat Soulja Boy shit, go ahead. Chicks might dig it. Focus on the music you can enjoy and not what these outlets try to force feed u. My kids will have a strong broad sense of real HIP-HOP, taught by none other than ME (HIP -HOP since '86) !!!

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September 5, 2007 1:00 PM
 

HoodProphet said:

RANDOM THOUGHT!!!

imagine this people...(if I could only draw, it would be more powerful)


A white family sitting at the dinner table.  Two little white kids (boy and girl), a white mother, and a white father.  White father just smiling from ear to ear, happy that hes king on his thrown and able to provide for his family.  Looking at the huge loaf of bread on the table (he has fork and knife in his hand).  Little white boy in his own little world about to plunge a piece of his bread at his little sister with his spoon (he has so much bread he can afford to throw some away).  The little girl asked her father if she can have another piece of bread.  Daddy's little girl always gets what she wants.  And finally mother is looking at the floor, completely shocked and awed by what she sees...

What she sees is roaches on the floor arguing over bread crumbs:

roach 1:  roach, I been waiting here all this time for some of them white folks to drop one of these crumbs, you better move away from it homie.  Dont start nothing wont be nothing.

roach 2:  Oh its about to go down up in here.  Just cause you got prettier antennas, you think you deserve the first bite of this here crumb.

roach 1:  Dont hate on my antennas dog.  You just mad, cause they always step on your kind first.  Get your antennas up homie and you'll survive a little bit longer.  But enough of all that, Imma have to bust yo ass up in here if you dont step away from this crumb.

roach 2:  its all good I aint worrying about it.  I'll just wait.  Imma keep on praying to God to get prettier antennas and my own bread crumb.  Eventually God gone feel sorry enough for me and give me a handout.  I mean after all it aint like God got better stuff to do then sit around and wait for me to pray about materialistic simple shit.

roach 1:  Yea true that.  But lets fight anyway, cause Im still worked up from all this fuss.  Plus we roaches, I mean aint that what we should be doing?

roach 2:  Yea my roach, Imma roach for life, "ROACH LIFE!!" in this bitch.  (With that said, roach 2 threw up some roach gang signs and punched roach 1 in the face, then stole the bread crumb)

roach 3:  (Roach 3 didnt engage in any of the drama.  As roach1 and roach2 were fighting, he just climbed up one of the table legs to get him a piece of the larger piece of bread).

narrator:  (good luck to roach 3 as he tries to pry some of that bread out of the hands of those white folks.  But his alternative, I guess, would be to engage in the fight between roach 1 and 2 and hes not into that.)

roach 4:  (Just sat back and watched roach 1, 2, and 3 do there thing.  He didnt feel that he should do either.  So being indecisive and stressed because of it, he lifted one of his wings and pulled out a "L" and a bag of tree and did what he does best.)


Narrator:  As all of this unfolded, white mother alerted the family to what was going on.  She especially wanted the children to see.  She wanted to make sure they knew how she never wanted them to turn out.  She always made sure that the kids didnt watch the roaches with out her or white father's consent.  They could never watch them after 8pm, and without her or white father being around of course to "interpret".  White father didnt engage too much in what was going on on the floor with roach 1, 2, and definitely not 4.  he was more concerned with watching as roach 3 was climbing the table leg coming near what he felt was his rightfully owned bread.  So he busied himself with debate over rather he would give roach 3 an incentive/road block piece of bread to keep him busy or would he just squash him.  Cause I mean after all, in white fathers eyes, he was just a roach...(to be continued)





HOPE I DIDNT OFFEND ANYONE, THEN AGAIN...YES I DO!!




-Hood Prophet  (aka Mr. hope I live longer than Malcolm did aka Mr. WAKE UP)
September 5, 2007 1:07 PM
 

King1122 said:

@SinRoc187

Good shit!  
September 5, 2007 1:10 PM
 

Hoodgrown said:

aiight... let's anaylize what mr.fluffymouth is talking about....


"only reason i called you out is because you have a comment on every muthafuccin post"

" i checced his music out and his shit SUCCS, so he should be more carefull next time he talkin down on any cat that raps and is on his hustle, because he is trash 4real, never called him a hata, just called him trash "

"Now look at how you act when somebody says somethin about your music, but you feel its cool to "comment" on everyone else's music?"

LMAO! This dude is a clown. So what you don't like my shit. Does that mean I can't have an opinion??? And you call ME SENSITIVE!! And the only reason I responded to you was because the topic of the story wasn't about me.. but you felt it necessary to put me in it. Now if Allhiphop DOES a story about ME.. then you have every right to speak on my music.  I never even knew you existed until you decided to get your Destiny's Child on and "said my name". It's obvious you've been watching me "in the shadows" with some type of homo-erotic feelings and I guess you wanted me to notice you as well... so you shouted me out. Well nahh homey.. I don't get "D" like that.

"And how you not a internet thug "

Let's see... I post on a story on Allhiphop. Out of the blue, you decide to speak on the next man for whatever nonsense reasons you spouted. And when I decide to defend myself... i'm an internet thug!!  Yea, ok homey (or should I say "homo")

"but just to show you what a real nigga do i'm still not going to take any shots at you personally"

A "real nigga" wouldn't have even cared what the next man was talking about. Cause I what I eat don't make you shit!


"And I never said i thought solja boy was good, just respect the young niggaz hustle,"

Then why even comment. I never said I didn't respect his hustle. But I know... i know... you kept silent for so long in the shadows.. you need to be noticed.. okay.. you got your 15 minutes of internet fame dude.






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September 5, 2007 1:17 PM
 

Hoodgrown said:

" but you feel its cool to "comment" on everyone else's music?"

Again dumb ass. Why do you think there's a comment field? Am I the only one on the forum discussing everyone else's music. You're a dick head.


"Very sensitive indeed"

No not at all. But when attacked, I will attack back. It's just that simple.


"quit showin ya gay tendencies playa wit all that gay talk,"

This dude is calling me gay. Lmao.!!! WOw.. When he admits to lurking on the forums reading all my posts. So much so that he felt the need to mention me by name. Wow! I sure that's the characteristics of a "staight male". Lmao. You're a clown.


"Fake ass internet thug ass nigga "

I was gonna say the same thing about you though I would word it... "internet homo-thug"







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September 5, 2007 1:23 PM
 

Shooterboy said:

red cafe is a nice, credible MC.. i dont know about soulja boy..but u gotta respect his grind and hustle..he made it..and Rich Boy is about as CREDIBLE as you can get..Rich Boy speaks on REAL shit..and he hit you wit Throw Some D's which was Bananas!

I wish people who read and learn about shit before they start typing BS

Shooter boy...WWW.MYSPACE.COM/THASHOOTERZ
September 5, 2007 1:28 PM
 

urz truly4 said:

i been knew red..niggaz been nice4yearz..since like2003...idk y da hell they got soulja boy there..umm...rich boy iz kool..hopefully,he'll get2show sum growth on hiz next lp...i know he dont like all dat paty/club shit..he like deep shit..so we'll c...over all..i like dis interview.
September 5, 2007 1:36 PM
 

SinRoc187 said:

LMAO @ some of yall cats. Going back n forth w/ who is not a "internet super-homo thug" on the internet just cracks me up!!!

"A REAL MAN SHOULDN'T HAVE TO SAY NO HOMO !!"
-jADA

CHECK OUT THE PAGE....ALL....I SAY ALL FEEDBACK IS WELCOMED!!!!!

1 HUNNID

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September 5, 2007 1:59 PM
 

Perelli said:

CANT NONE OF THESE NIGGA RAP, YEA I SAID IT.

PERELLI  FROM KANSAS CITY

DUDE GOT 14 MILLION HITS ON MYSPACE AND AINT GOT NO ALBUM OUT.  YOU ARE A DUMB FCK.  DIDNT THEY TELL YOU THIS WAS A BUSINESS?

I GOT 2 CD'S COMING NOVEMBER 13TH, 2007

"PRIVATE STOCK" (100% profanity free)
AND "THE PERFECT BLUNT" (100% raw and uncut)


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September 5, 2007 2:00 PM
 

Hoodgrown said:

SinRoc187,
Welcome to the community man. It is what it is. Yeah we do get into little ebeefs here and there but it ain't that serious.

Hell, Fly Boi and I had a real nasty battle for a minute. But we came to see that we agreed on more issues than we disagreed on and just let the nonsense go.

I'm almost positive this thing with myself MDMP won't go on beyond today because it's really not that serious. And on the real.. when you read all the shit posted you've posted the next day... sometimes it's like "why am I even bothering"

If I could remove the post with me going at Fly Boi I would because now it just looks dumb...

but hell... I needed to let off some steam anyway...







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September 5, 2007 2:14 PM
 

Young Bruus said:

Red Cafe is a decent nigga on the rap side. He came wit intelligent answers and bein that he a older nigga, he has no excuse to sound like a fuckin dummy. But dig this tho...He's been at it for a minute...If he really was that hot with his shit, he would have been out. Not bcuz of jus tha content of his music but from his business decisions. Look at Papoose...he wanna be Nas Jr. and he got a 1.7 mil deal. He was business smart. He do shit all over the world on that conscious shit. Cafe jus betta get smarter and use the "South" to his advantage. Whats wrong wit spittin yo grimy flow on Southern beats??? Thats $$$.

Soulja Boy is 16. Leave da nigga alone. To be honest, yall should follow his trend, bcuz he a symbol of "If that nigga can get on, 4 sho I can too!" Yeah his music might be trash but its catchy as hell and yall lil brothers an sisters doin his dance. Niggaz gotta understand shit b4 they criticize it.

As far as Rich Boy, he would have popped harder if he picked better singles...That shit wit Polow and Keri Hilson is garbage but its forced by these labels and spoonfed to the radio.

Basically, the way to "bring hip-hop back", (bcuz it aint dead, it jus evolved...People jus caint take drastic change too well) is to do what you do but make sure it can appeal to any ear. WHite kids in the suburbs to niggaz in the hood. U can still make it doin ANY type o rap...u just gotta create a movement and be a SMART nigga.

COME CHECK ME OUT AT WWW.MYSPACE.COM/BGLOCKBRUUS

holla atcho guy.
September 5, 2007 2:30 PM
 

SinRoc187 said:

@HoodGrown
I appreciate the welcome fam. Much luv to all you brothers & sisters on here on a positive note. If the "ebeefs" are what's up than cool....as long as we all steer away from the disrespect. Nobody wants to catch an "eticket" from expedia.com to deliver a "easswhooping" on n "enigga"....lol.

Stay up playa....much respect!

myspace.com/warfieldaotentertainment
September 5, 2007 2:39 PM
 

FlyBoy718 said:

Lmao @ Red Cafe shittin on Soulja Boy in the same damn interview
September 5, 2007 2:45 PM
 

Hoodgrown said:

@Young Bruus
"...it aint dead, it jus evolved...People jus caint take drastic change too well"

Yea that's true.. because cats in NYC was beefing the same way when the West was doing their thing. So try not to make to much out of it.

But you can't judge a whole coast of cats by what you read on the forums. The internet forums would have you think that everyone on the East is a hater...

but actually come to NYC...

listen the radio... ya'll get crazy love here. Hell, Ay Bay Bay was getting crazy burn here way before the video.

go to a club in NYC and see how many southern songs they play here. I would say it's about 30%-50%

Don't let a few cats rumbling about the South killing hip hop make you (southerners in general) hostile toward your brethren in the east.






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September 5, 2007 2:51 PM
 

IronHorse said:

why is it that evertime the state of hip hop is brought up on the internet, somebody feels the need to get tough about it?
Half of you aint even up on the industry or understand the mechanics correctly but a ton of shit to say. all most of you know is 1st week sales and whatever the new album sales rumor is.
Theres always the NYC guy and the south guy "going at it" or the real hip hop guy versus the stop hating on the south guy...why? what does that do for the game?

Fact of the matter is alot of niggas SUCK, your coast and trying to hide behind it is a cop out. alot of niggas suck. period.
What WE need is a fire lit under black america again. black america, not just the south. Hip Hop aint segregated nigga.
If you think about it, all the turmoil we faced birthed the greatest music of all time cause we had so much to talk about.
We aint goin through shit and nobody has enough backbone to speak on shit nowadays simply cause theres no money in it.
This is also why hip hop was better back in the day.
It was fresh. plain & simple. from coast to coast.
Nothing was done already, no blueprint laid, no measuring stick, no sales numbers nothing.
Everything has been done already, and its money driven now.
Your the hater if "stop hating on us" is your entire argument and all you can bring up is how you HAD to sit through new york at 1st now its our turn etc. etc.
Nigga Hip Hop is new york's baby and corporate america snatched it soon as it was proven to make dough and it was a proven genre. Dont hate on that FACT!! lol!
I aint sayin bring real hip back or hip hop is dead, or sayin the south killed anything, but I do wanna get clear on the facts, not your opinions or feelings.
All them relivant niggas who got interviewed spoke the real, they know what it is. The writings on the wall, I aint gotta say shit.
All ya'll other niggas is just speaking cause your allowed to.
I aint gonna preach, but Im get sick of reading niggas arguments every fuckin day about the south vs NY or whatever is happening in cyber world, and the artist will articulate his opinion well, its just when the flood gates open up and you start letting niggas opinions run free thats when it gets outta hand. I read this shit everyday at work, but I can only read some of you greasy ass niggas comments for so long.
All I'll say is some of you niggas is sooooo lucky man.
no tough talk, its just how I feel.
and its always some so called NY cat who says some un-New York type shit and then the south nigga who turns hardbody and starts talkin like a fuckin redneck about yankees and subways shit tryin to get cute.
on that note, you let pimp C tell it, certain niggas in ATL was walkin around with their pants leg up rockin backpacks in 1997 tryin to front but now their D boys 10yrs later, but thats another story...(I just know one of you tough guys will "fight back" on that one,lol).
I love the south, I am NYC the QBORO to be exact, but no nigga in some cyber fantasy land is gonna sell wolf tickets shitting on NYC like they would even breathe wrong on my block.
Fuck that,I had to say something, and fuck if you dont like any of it...
September 5, 2007 2:59 PM
 

LP2K said:

yeah people do beef on a regular on here but then again when views cross there will be debates. i try to keep an open mind, try to be as grown up as possible about the subject and respect everyone's oppinion. thats really all you can do. besides after all the "faggot" calling and "bitch made n***a" comments have settled. at the end of the day when you leave AHH.com, its all just text. also never hold grudges. its the internet, we all have more important things to stress. i fought a few people on here but no hard feelings, these are still my peoples. if everyone respects one another, everything should be alright.

THIS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT FROM LP2K CORP.
September 5, 2007 3:05 PM
 

IronHorse said:

I Figured niggas need to peep this one since this is a HIP HOP forum and ALL regions who play the game is HIP HOP no matter what bullshit you classify yourself in, and the fact nobody seems to pass on important information but go back & forth about bullshit like pussies. read this and ask yourself if your still "winning" or "we gettin money" then talk to me:

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117971328.html?categoryid=16&cs=1
September 5, 2007 3:08 PM
 

Hoodgrown said:

SinRoc187 said:
"If the "ebeefs" are what's up than cool"


I wouldn't say the beefs are "what's up". It just happens from time to time. Most of the it's just straight music talk. We argue... we listen... and hopefully sometimes we even understand one another.

Like a few of us who agreed to stop letting us be divided and took the stand that we'd no longer blame regions for crappy music. If we don't like an artists.. we'll blame that artist.. but not were he came from...

If we all decided to do that.. there wouldn't be any of the east vs. south crap that is currently going on...
September 5, 2007 3:10 PM
 

Young Bruus said:

@ Hoodgrown

I aint from the South tho....Im from Chitown.

I jus say what I said cuz its true...Theres prolly 5-10 good reasons "The South" is runnin shit.

1. Danceable Sound
The most gangsta or most conscious song a southern nigga make could play in a club easily

2. Independent Label Deals
Damn near every nigga out is on an independent label. The allows the big dudes(universal, sony, interscope) to spend less money and get more back bcuz these guyz r already proven in their respective areas.

3. Originality
WHo the fuck wore grillz, sipped purp, or threw 28s on the truck b4 these niggaz? NOBODY. They do them an make it cool

4. Unity
When Lil Jon started the big push, He featured everybody n they mama, TI, Bonecruser, Yin Yang Twins, Youngbloodz...an thats jus Atl. Houston had they run then u got Paul Wall, Slim Thug, UGK revival, Chamillionaire, Mike Jones etc.

5. Consistency
Mufuckas keep sayin "The South is poppin right now.." They been runnin this shit since 50 dropped!!! Thats been the last 4-5 years!!! They keep comin wit shit an they cant be stopped unless another "50" drops an puts his region on hard. They not lettin go of SHIT.

BUT ANYWAY YALL CHECK MY MUSIC OUT ON MYSPACE.COM/BGLCOKBRUUS AN LET A NIGGA KNOW SUM'N. LEMME KNOW IF U THINK ITS HOT OR TRASH. I DONT GIVE A FUCK
September 5, 2007 3:18 PM
 

Young Bruus said:

I MEANT MYSPACE.COM/BGLOCKBRUUS...SORRY YALL. TYPIN 2 FAST
September 5, 2007 3:18 PM
 

Young Bruus said:

TO IRONHORSE...

Dig this pimpin...

I aint said shit bout NY niggaz or hip-hop is dead....If hip-hop was really NY's then when yall niggaz aint take it back yer. All dat complainin, everybody in America hears it...Why not beat a nigga ass when he go to YO town an gets a deal when he aint from there??

The answer to that is...

Yall niggaz jus like my Chitown niggaz...crabs in a bucket. The southern niggaz figured the game out b4 everybody did. STart yo own label an fuck chasin the big labels... White people love money too much not to go see what was poppin down there an they came up on a landmine!! The only shit that will save NY, it aint Pap or Joell Ortiz(even tho dude is raw), its what T.I., yeah i said T.I., made happen at the garden..which is unite u dumb niggaz...even 50 was wit it. That I Get Money remix jus might save yall ass....but yall need ya up and comin niggaz to fuck wit each other an learn how to write songs without bitin tha south's dick n New York will b "cool" again. This is real shit. DipSet and the Lox is the only niggaz from up there that niggaz in the Chi fuck wit besides 50 n Jay.
September 5, 2007 3:27 PM
 

Patillac said:

Lol @ Mr.MDMP, u stupid man... I feel you tho... If hip-hop is dead, let da mothafucka die... The South is runnin' shit, I hope it stays like dat too...

Red Cafe is straight, I remember him on a song on Madden

Rich Boy is okay too. I didn't like his album @ first but I heard it again and dat shit straight

I don't care too much about Solja Boy but his song poppin'...

But I really think the fans (as in we) are killing "hip-hop." We buy & listen to what we want to listen to and some artist are not benefitting from it...

But shit, music is music, and like hoodgrown says "to each his own"...
September 5, 2007 3:29 PM
 

Hoodgrown said:

"1. Danceable Sound
The most gangsta or most conscious song a southern nigga make could play in a club easily"

Shit does bump in a club. Can't deny that. And even songs I fucking hate.. when it comes on and the females are getting it on.. you gotta get it on to just to get at them

"2. Independent Label Deals
Damn near every nigga out is on an independent label. The allows the big dudes(universal, sony, interscope) to spend less money and get more back bcuz these guyz r already proven in their respective areas."

Got to give this to the South and The Bay area of Cali cause their indie hustle game is crazy. WHile cats on this coast was tryin to get little 350k deals.. the South and the Bay were puttin in work. Master P, Cash Money, Suave House and others reflect that grind and were able to eat lovely off of it.


"3. Originality
WHo the fuck wore grillz, sipped purp, or threw 28s on the truck b4 these niggaz? NOBODY. They do them an make it cool"

Okay.. the Grillz popped off in NYC during the 80's though.

"4. Unity
When Lil Jon started the big push, He featured everybody n they mama, TI, Bonecruser, Yin Yang Twins, Youngbloodz...an thats jus Atl. Houston had they run then u got Paul Wall, Slim Thug, UGK revival, Chamillionaire, Mike Jones etc."

Can't knock you there. That "Gunshine" track with like 30 dudes from Florida would never pop off over here because the unity is just not there.

"5. Consistency
Mufuckas keep sayin "The South is poppin right now.." They been runnin this shit since 50 dropped!!! Thats been the last 4-5 years!!! They keep comin wit shit an they cant be stopped unless another "50" drops an puts his region on hard. They not lettin go of SHIT. "

Yea.. they have it poppin. The East did it for like 10 years, the west had it for 3 or 4... but everything changes. That's not a bad thing. We'll just wait to see what's next.

September 5, 2007 3:56 PM
 

J.Roc. said:

Straight Up Rich Boy And Soulja Boy Are WACK. I know Im Probbly gonna catch some Isht from these southern cats,But They both SUCK. AnyBody who thinks otherwise needs there   F-in head examined. The South Has Dope emcee's but These two fools arent even close. These Two, along with alot of other rappers, North, South, East, West, Across the whole board, Are bullshit Ringtone rappers who shouldnt have deals.  When Somebody who can flow comes out no matter the region it should be bangin everywhere.  But enuff of these bullshit tracks about how big your rims are or A BAY BAY bullshit Bangin in clubs. How can a grown man bump that shit.....STOP IT YOU LOOK STUPID....That little ass kid cant even get into the clubs to hear his nursery rhymes. Bottom line if its hot its Hot, if its NOt its NOT.  Its People like Rich Boy And Soulja Boy That give southern rappers a bad name.....AND YOU SOUTHERN CATS KNOW IT!




September 5, 2007 5:21 PM
 

IronHorse said:

Its easy to say niggas can "come to my town" and get deals...so easy to say some juvenile shit like that when NYC happens to be the entertainment/buisness capitol in the USA, and every major lable is right up the street so to go indie was never a niggas 1st initial thought.
You'd just hustle or whatever if you wanted that indie dough, hell any nigga with an indie lable will tell you MAJOR distributiuon is the ultimate goal anyway.

Further more in an environment like NY indie lables get swallowed up easier (i.e. rawkus, loud, landspeed etc.)
Also, niggas dont get fucked up coming throught NYC cause they aint in the hood they in manhattan almost everytime. get it right homie. thats 1 of the safest places to be in NYC for any outta towner.

NYC has always had the crabs in a bucket mentality just like any other hood in america, that shit didnt just happen when the south started poppin. get real.
The problem online is you niggas got your own views or opinions about whatever you think it is.
You cant tell none of ya'll new age niggas nothing anyway.
You just call niggas haters and keep it moving with your heads shoved up your ass about the facts.

And 50 from my hood, southside QU far-rock...thats a boro nigga in charge right now, I'm cool on that note.
No rapper out could stop that even if he wanted to.
50 choose to barge out on stage at that concert, he wasnt invited.pause.
kanye is doin buisness with Jay so them coming out together makes all the sense in the world, TI is doing his thing and him and Jay/puffy are cool too. whats your point?
oh uniting... Yeah niggas need to unite everywhere, not just the south. how do you feel about that shit? overall? would you even respect it?
Niggas got so much energy to speak on what NYC is doin wrong, whats up with chi town? whats up with HIP HOP in general?
You think its all good now but when you tryin to come up and cop your little p&d deal then you gonna understand why IronHorse said what he said..
Kidz in the hall, naledge, bump j, kanye, common, and the rest dont speak for the entire Chicago, this I know...whats up with that? ( yeah I support ALL good music reguardless )
Thats what I mean, speak on some useful shit sometime, dont stand up to put NYC down in a forum...you'll lose damn near everytime anyway.
And dont try to stick up for the south, they got plenty of niggas online doin that BS.
And NYC is to hip hop what africa is to mankind reagurdless to what age we live in...and I'll say it as much as I want too...

I just found a record spot in Hyde park last year, Im in the chi from time to time, love that city...but it aint NYC just like it aint ATL. Niggas aint got jakes lockin you up for next to nothing, or D's ready to fight/body you if you get caught out there...is what it is...niggas need to speak more on it, but it dont make money, what do you expect?
Niggas in ATL or chi town aint speaking on important issues either, dont jump on NYC for doing some shit that never ever happend in life (uniting)...
Niggas around my way are more concearned with NYPD/hip hop cops than what the south is doin

Its almost like I gotta post my record collection to show you niggas I aint no south hater but Im from NYC at the same time...what the hell is wrong with ya'll dumb niggas?
All niggas can say is get money stop hating?
And I aint gonna tell you who I am or what I do, post my myspace or none of that BS.
the game is just plain fucked up, no matter whos getting what kinda money. Read what rich boy and them niggas have to say again and again and dont blame NYC for it is all Im sayin. its quittin time...
September 5, 2007 5:48 PM
 

IronHorse said:

and yung bruce....I just checked out your myspace page. NOT BAD! You sound like your doing the the trendy thing and you dont really standing out (unlike your chi town brethren) but your shit sounds iight actually....hows that for a hater from NYC? Now if everybody else could kill all the coastal bias, HIP HOP might be in better condition as a whole. niggas is lying on records, stop falling for it all. Not bad though homie, not bad at all...
September 5, 2007 6:08 PM
 

africa p said:

Soulja Boy WTF that shit makes me ashamed to be from the south if ATL keep cranking out that bull Alaska gonna get the crown next.
September 5, 2007 6:25 PM
 

Shalom said:

IRON HORSE:

Cops in Chicago DO harass and arrest people for no fuckin reason at all...they're basically a gang.

Ask people who live on the West side at Garfield Park what happened during Labor Day weekend

Peace

-Shalom
September 5, 2007 6:52 PM
 

IronHorse said:

No doubt shalom, appeciate the info.
I got to see 1st hand how real chi town is, I was informed that if my hat was on the wrong way I could have problems last time I was out there and to stay on point!
say no more! I aint a herb but I aint a fool either!!
Im actually pulling for ya'll niggas out there, Im feeling ya'll movement on that note.
But that also goes to show you that Jakes everywhere are a gang, a legal gang and THEIR enemy is HIP HOP niggas.
No matter where you from, coast to coast, HIP HOP, cut & dry.
At some point niggas from everywhere are gonna have to show more awreness in our music, and stick together and not try to keep other coast/niggas on the outside looking in just to turn around and call everybody haters...
September 5, 2007 7:19 PM
 

Darnell004 said:

I don't know what to say that hasn't been said already to the topic at hand.
September 5, 2007 9:30 PM
 

sirstackalot1 said:

the return of shitty hip hop!
September 5, 2007 10:05 PM
 

Loadius Prime said:

Didn't Katt Williams, say dont worry about haters.  Damn, the south must have a guilty conscience.  I loved the crunk movement.  We was a-town stompin at every party.  Even the sanp music in the beginning.  We was Leanin and Rocking with it.  But if you notice, Nobody is selling Records.  Yung Joc, 60,000.  Thats horrible after a platinum LP.  Sheeit, swizz doesnt count.  He aint a rapper, even though he try.  I'll be damned if, you ever catch me doing that god-awful superman dance.  Aint nobody hating, We are just sick of the BS thats being played on the radio.  Maybe, if we took ourselves serioously as people, our music would reflect us.  As a New Yorker, I cant hate the south.  I know there is some great music out there.  To bad the industry wont support it.  

East Coast cant stop beefing!

The South cant stop Dancing!

Houston, which I believe is more west than south, Is still spending money from 2005.

West Coast is still bumping when they get a song on the radio!

It seems like Chicago is the only city, making music worth buying, from best buy!

Make better music, Save Hip Hop.
September 5, 2007 11:06 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

These negros are garbage. They giving the south a bad rep.  If yall want to hear some true lyrics from southern rappers just check out the albums made from 1993-2002.  Eightball & MJG, Goodie Mob, Outkast, Scarface, Skinny Pimp (with 3 6 mafia), Gansta Blac (with 3 6 mafia). Playa Fly, and DJ Squeeky(with Project Playaz).  Those are the true rappers in the south.  The new cats are T.I., Allstar and Yo Gotti.  The rest of the southern rappers are just making music for youngsters under 17 that don't know any better.  Nuff said!
September 5, 2007 11:09 PM
 

The Seventh Seal said:

And for all yall N.Y. niggas...Rap did not start in NYC.  James Brown invinted rap.  And he is from Augusta GA!
September 5, 2007 11:12 PM
 

DevO said:

Crank That does get everyone dancing, but as a rapper Soulja Boy sucks, i heard him two years ago wit bathin apes which in my opinion is a terrible song, all it is, is him saying he got bapes over and over with an annoying HEEEYYY!!! in the backround.  I also think the YUUUA was kinda stole from Shopboyz i Yua like i yua.  Now soulja boy's got his soulja girl song out, yuua yuua NO What is that YUUA shit stop it soulja boy you SUCK.  can't even talk about, all soulja boy is a snap south muthafucka.  The Crank That beat can be made on FruityLoops, yea i respect his hustle to get where he is off nothing, but he sucks to not even be able those 2 questions wtf.  I got respect for Red and Rich Boy selllin crraccck.

Lol @ Fawn, no comments randomly all the way through
September 6, 2007 12:28 AM
 

King1122 said:

@The Seventh Seal- I respect that, James Brown was a pioneer of soul, and his music inspired a new era.  Muhammed Ali inspired rap too.  But they rapped.  Hiphop it's self was an NYC movement that started in the late 70s, specifically the bronx.  Thats just history.  

Your south MC list is crazy.  Those are real MCs that spit, and they all get love in NY.  Thats why I don't understand niggas sayin NY hates on the south.  I hate on garbage music whether its from the south, east, west, where ever.  The region doesn't matter, its the quality.
September 6, 2007 8:48 AM
 

hotrock11 said:

It's funny how prejudice the internet is....

The last time I ever listened to the internet's opinion was when it came to Yung Joc. The IC had me thinking it was the worst album of all-time! I download after hearing a few songs during a party....SHIT WAS FIRE! I saw how he pushed all those records!

My point - that first single, that is almost 100% going to be that "sell-out" single. That means that you're selling yourself out to get consumers' attention. It's like walking into a room and showing a briefcase full of money - people are going to listen to you until you bore them or show no signs of giving them that money. Usually though, it's the ALBUM that really shows if an artist is wack or tight.

Rich Boy's album was TIGHT. I bought that first day after downloading it the week before.

If Soulja Boy comes out with a tight ALBUM, I might cop it. I'm not going to doubt it happening, because you don't know what someone is like until you hear their shit.



But all this blind hate.....pitiful. I'm going to laugh my ass off when 51/50 sounds better than 3/4ths of the albums that dropped this year. Wait for all the encrypted "damn this hurricane chris shit is tight" posts form you internet losers.
September 6, 2007 8:53 AM
 

SmackANiggaQwik said:

I cant deny that i have sterio typed Rich Boy since i first heard of him, but i gotta admit that he is one smart brotha, all the interview i have read from him have been good ass reads, he a very educated dude, i dont know why his label made him out to look like a simple minded fuck, just on the stregnth of interviews imma buy his cd.

Solja Boy?? No Comment
September 6, 2007 9:12 AM
 

Fawn said:

@ DevO

....no comment :-)
September 6, 2007 9:19 AM
 

jojodove77 said:

Let's look beyond lame ass rap and try to see what's really going on ...the South isn't killing Hip Hop...the South is killing itself and taking the image of my people (black people) with it!!!  How did the South go from being the home of REAL soldiers who fought for freedom and equality, staring down the dogs, guns and fire hoses of the Jim Crow (not the rap group youngins) to dressing like clowns and doing the damn steppinfetchit jig everytime a camera comes on???  
Southern rap is turning men to boys...where strong black men and women once laid down their lives for freedom while looking clean and respectable, we NOW have sloppy, clownish, ignorant folks hooting and hollering "SUPA MAN DAT HO"???
Dr. King would be ashamed of you!

P.S. If anyone who speaks out against ignorance and buffoonery is labeled a 'hater' then count me in...I HATE the way some of my beautiful brothers and sisters are wasting the opportunities that were fought for so hard ...I HATE that young children are being raised by a nation of brainwashed zombies...and I HATE that white people are watching all of this and probably thinking of ways to reinstate slavery...hope y'all can find a way to "WALK IT OUT" when those shackles and chains get slapped by on that a$$!
September 6, 2007 9:33 AM
 

Loadius Prime said:

Amen, jojodove!  Amen! These kids and grown-ups need to know their history and current news.  Im currently in the DMV and most people i talk to dont even know about the JENA 6. anyway, what happen to JIBBS?  LOL
September 6, 2007 10:48 AM
 

Diamond_Gyrl said:

At the end of the day you can't hate on someone getting their hustle on though...

I am not a fan but dayum these dudes are making money doing what they love aint no different than major corporations phuckin the consumer with no vasaline...with devilsh minds to make you broke...it aint the rapper corrupting your minds..it is you corrupting your mind..you dont have to listen to the shyt...I dont see NOBODY boycottin' ICE CUBE or JOHN SINGLETON for Friday or BABY BOY...

and to say these fools wont be around next year is funny cuz they been around from the previous year...( I mean I am just tired of folk talking shyt and I by FAR aint a fan but let keep this plain)

And I find it funny most people that talk all that bullshyt about real hip hop and the Major CAUSE aint doin' a dayum thing in their communities, aint joined not nan' one organization, been to NOT one protest but YELLIN from the comforts of their own mind and to look like they down...probably know the WHOLE dance step to "Crank Dat Solja Boy"...

I mean if the kids need guidance and I dont know if you do or dont but are you mentoring any kids that aren't related to you...or making a conscious effort to make it better instead of focused on what some rap music says....

Shyt our music from back in the day wasn't all that great either and lets not get back to the 70's when we talked about PIMPS, HOES, CRACK, all that ish'..and..

Yo' I turned out fine...take responsibilty of self and LET THE MUSIC PLAY I mean phuck!
September 6, 2007 11:43 AM
 

MusicIsFocus said:

I really don't like Souljah boy. I really don't. his music is trash, and he copped out on like 3 questions the pertained strictly to him. hes a dick. rich boy sucks, cafe' isn't relevant.
September 6, 2007 2:23 PM
 

StuckNDa90s said:

I really and truly love Hip Hop..  The South didn't kill hip hop the Media and the program directors killed hip hop..  Its like the more ignorant the song is the more play it gets..   It honestly hurts me to my heart when i can't even turn on the radio anymore without listening to that Coonery and Bafoonery..  Must new artist don't speak from the heart and have song that touches the soul..  I'm from VA we listen to it all so it doesn't mater where you're from..we listen to it all..   To me its all about Dope beats and Dope lyrics..  Personally I feel that Soulja Boy is straight wack!!!!!!!!   Not because he's from the South its because he can't Rap and his style is horrible..   I know originality is what we need but please don't compromise skillz..   When you think of real Hip hop The new artist need to refer to True Hip hop Artists like..   Tribe, Wu-Tang, bootcamp, Nas, Jay-z, Common, Lupe, Kanye, Little Brother, Slum village, Outcast, Mos, Kweli, Scarface etc...  Bottom Line is    Dope Beats, Dope Rhymes and Substance...
I also know that yes we do need the club songs but who's to say the club songs cant have substance..   Think back to the Mid to early 90's if you can...   Music was great and there were party songs but the only difference is the songs were 100 times better...  

I hope I will one day see Hip Hop back to the majority of it being real Music!!!!
September 6, 2007 2:46 PM
 

C-CIPHA said:

I aint tryin to hate on little dude or nothing cause he is doing his hustle thing and all that! I just think for the conversation that there are having Soulja Boy wasnt the person that they needed to even respond to questions like the direction of hip hop , for one he is only 16 and 2. he is from the south and theres only a hand full or artist from the south that actually care about lyrics like we do in the more north areas.  There no disrespect intended with that statement due to the fact that my favorite group has to be the goodie mob with ceelo. but for conversation sake Soulja Boy has not done anything to even be interviewed more less have an valuable opinion on the direction of hip hop
September 6, 2007 2:59 PM
 

BLUNTBLAZER said:

YEA SOULJA BOY DIDNT COMMENT CAUSE HIS SUPAMAN SONG IS GIVIN THA GAME A BAD NAME RED N RICH BOY ARE REAL THO.

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September 6, 2007 7:20 PM
 

omg2008 said:

First of all interesting interview in part because of the choice of artists… definitely thought it was a good choice because they come from the most relevant walks or sprints to major label attention.

But more importantly hip hop artists, rap artists are just being pimped a little differently than before you see the majors have been forced to adapt because of technology and independent entrepreneurship. It used to be when they found that artist(investment) they wanted a commitment of 9, 10, LL albums, nowadays because of their unwillingness to break or develop an artist… they are going for the “one off album” and it shows the way they stop the marketing $$ after that 50--70% drop. Let’s take Mims, did someone at the label/mgmt./or him… not realize there wasn’t a second, third, or fourth choice for a follow up single or perhaps even a buzz single before that "this is why I’m Hot" dropped…and why wasn’t that rectified before rushing that project out in its entirety? They could have waited, worked, pulled some guest spots during that time but then again if they weren’t confident another big song could be done why bother just flip it right!!!

the answer is quite clear sacrifice potential careers for a quick flip. They don’t even believe in their overall projects… they are going to bail probably using a threshold on profit and loss--- it’s hit or miss, they take whatever the ringtone cut is and how many “yeah I bought that Diesel plate” suckas they could get. It's business they trying to stay out of the red.Now I can see if there is an effort to keep the artist relevant but nothing- who the hell is advising???? No R&B or pop song or fuck it Rock remix? No white label heat? Not even an experiment. Same thing with D4L and many other acts the past 2 or 3 fiscals. It's just a different game

You can be signed to a major tomorrow but the artist and his camp have to force the label's hand every step of the way even after a hit single. Hip hop getting treated poorly labels feel that the public is so fickle that they only got one shot. Look at R&B they are looking to create longevity with their artists (prime example is Chrisette Michelle she's crazy with it but they gonna let her grind not spend then cap it they believe...look @ Keyshia Cole they were intent on breaking her ...anyway people

Check the Sex Me rate it comment it holla if you have originality and monster production or if you want to work let's see what it is

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September 6, 2007 9:30 PM
 

bvicious said:

I think they are the new generation of "the south" and like it says theirm doin there own thing. good for them. I pump the south in my car and everything else in the house.
September 6, 2007 9:57 PM
 

leeta said:

maan i was feeling sorry for souljah boy in that interview..it was getting real..tooo real that he had "no comment"..poor young man
September 6, 2007 11:10 PM
 

BLAK MUZIK said:

WHY DOES EVERY COMMENT MADE THESE DAYS AFTER A ARTICLE OR INTERVIEW END UP WITH PEOPLE AT EACH OTHERS THROATS THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK OUT AGAINST SOME ONE ELSES THOUGHTS EVERYONE  IS ALLOWED THIER OWN OPINION
AS FOR THE INTERVIEW VERY INTERESTING SEEING THE VIEWS FROM THESE ARTISTS VERY GOOD POINTS ALL THREE ARTISTS ARE DOING THIER THANG!!!! HIP HOP IS HIP HOP BECAUSE THEIR IS SOMETHING FOR EVERY ONE NO MATTER WHAT UR TASTE AND I SAID IT BEFORE AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN IF YOU DONT LIKE IT DONT LISTEN TO DONT BUY IT NO ONE IS GOING TO PERSECUTE YOU FOR WHAT U LIKE TO LISTEN TO!!!!
September 7, 2007 8:32 AM
 

Curry Media said:

there is a difference between "hatin' the south" and being really wack...soulja boy is young  and wack and his generation is buying his albums (3rd grade - 10th grade)...now if you are not in high school and you are purchasing that new soulja boy, Now thats a problem...leave that dude alone and go pick up some grown man music...
September 7, 2007 9:35 AM
 

B-STYLE said:

I'm tried of this "Quit hatin the South" movement its gettin a little boring now.  It seems that every time someone says they don't like a certain song from the south they hatin on the whole South.  I tried of the shit the south makes good music but they also make wack shit too keep it real.  Just because girls dance to the shit don't make it hot.  
The interview was cool Red Cafe been in game for a minute and its cool to see the nigga gettin shine.  I got a lot more respect for Rich Boy, but that Soulja Boy nigga can superman his ass out of the game.  
September 7, 2007 11:17 AM
 

Fly Boi said:

If ya'll wanna hear one of the best lyricists in the South, click on the link below. It's Mac, that used to be with No Limit. He was wrongfully jailed and now they tryna get him out so he can show the world his tru talent.

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=35566156
September 7, 2007 1:22 PM
 

prescillia said:

It's funny that as young as I am I have a better clue at what's going on with the industy than most of those who so called to be the industry! It's kinda like asking, "Why did you sell your houres and buggy to the traveler who just bought a 1930 automobile".... "Times have changed" And no A&R or record company can stop that... It's call digital for those who stand by and watch it grow before their eyes and stiill looking for retail as we knew it to do what it did in the past! Hip Hop was born in the streets. We sold it to the masses and know the streets have consumed it again. Theirs another thing called mix CDs that seem to mostly exist within the hip hop cluture. Instead of stomping the rats that are eating off your plate for free. You "the industry" fed them because their nasty eating habbits spread you music all over the hoods. Now when it's all said and done .. they got fat off your seeds and now you are starving because there is only crumbs left. And Soulja Boi's "No Comment" is about as smart as him record company.... Here he has one of the most hood, radio friendly songs out right now that I actully like and his record company would let him release a song called "SHOOT OUT" Isn't that the reason we got away from CRUNK MUSIC! I came her today because my Dad an I were on our way home from going out to eat and we heard what seemed to be a public service announcement .... "Kids this is only a dance - it's not meant for you to go and shoot anyone - it is only a dance" Or something like that! I've never seen my Dad get so mad about a song before... But you know what, "I got it" and I agree.. You can't say Nigger or bitch on the radio but you would let the powers that be promote a song to kids called SHOOT OUT .. Dance or not the person that approved that record for the radio need to be fired! So back to the subject at hand.... That's one less Soulja Boi record that will be sold.. Because of that song my Dad will not buy the CD for me... Good going Mr. Record companys.. What a way to breath life back into a dieing industry!

Ya Girl Princess,
This is waht I do........
September 7, 2007 1:32 PM
 

Kweli said:

what does this have to do with the Fat Boys?
September 7, 2007 7:54 PM
 

canipost? said:

wheres the disco three article?
September 7, 2007 9:06 PM
 

THE ROOK said:

not my cup off tea   i listen to HIP HOP  do ya thing tho niggaz
September 7, 2007 9:50 PM
 

PatMcKallista said:

Rich Boy - Gangsta Music
Red Cafe - East Coast
Soulja Boy - Dance/Pop
Example: Common - Hip-Hop

GET IT RIGHT!!!!

I have lived in the south my whole life and I for one have listened to gangsta music growing up.  But I still know the differences.  There is not too much Hip-Hop music down here.  True enough the word Hip-Hop represents our culture as a whole but as far as music, lets just say "GET IT RIGHT."
September 8, 2007 1:19 AM
 

hater hurter said:

was this some kind of we hate the south shit cuz its gettin old. how the hell are u gonna put these three in one article. red was tryin to be not bias but those questions being asked were aimed at rich boy and soulja boy to make them uncomfortable. IM CALLIN BULLSHIT ON THIS ONE.
September 10, 2007 11:04 AM
 

VAgogetta said:

y'all arguing on some stupid shit for real. all this energy going in to proving your point when that same energy SHOULD be into gettin' money instead of on this website all damn day. man, forget what some other bitch got to say. say your piece and let it be that. get money.
September 10, 2007 2:10 PM
 

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