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The Brutal Truth: Hip-Hop and Black Love

Friday, June 29, 2007 6:28 PM | 20 comments
By Adisa "The Bishop of Hip-Hop" Banjoko

I was recently watching a panel on sexism in Hip-Hop and one of the topics mentioned was how black women feel Black men  no longer love them. I believe a quote attributed to Jill Scott asking, “Who loves us?” became central to the dialogue.

As a Black male, I want to make it very clear that I love and respect Black women. As with all men, I have my flaws.  Often hearing I have been or am a “sexist,” I would rather position myself as what I like to call a “recovering sexist.” Through no fault of my father's, I have been sexist for a long time. I remember being as young as nine arguing with my father about why men should not clean bathrooms or do dishes. Even after becoming more aware of myself as a Black man in America, I retained many of it’s ugly precepts. As I entered my adult life, I converted to Islam and married a beautiful Black woman. Years later, she gave birth to a wonderful son and the three of us grew spiritually and mentally. However, it was not until my daughter was born that I could truly see how extremely sexist I still was and how far I had to go.

Sexism, very much like racism, has very sublime expressions that are not always seen in a Nelly video, a Lil' Jon record or a television show by Snoop Dogg. The truth is sexism is an ugly beast. Sexism can be in the condescending smile I give my wife when we play chess. It can also be in the frustration I feel when she wins!

As a man, you must first take responsibility for your shortcomings. My sexism did not spring from my father or Hip-Hop. I own the sexism in me and I work to fix it. Unlike Don Imus, I will not say “I am confused by the line of sexism, because all these rappers and their lyrics.”  So to listen to anyone suggest that Black men or Hip-Hop is the sole factor creating a degrading environment for Black women, is insane. Equally, Black men must accept the role they do  play in this explosive trend. Only after accepting the role we play in the degradation of women can black men become the great force needed to reverse this shameful trend.

After observing my daughter’s sacred spirit and the greater spirit of my wife while giving birth did I begin to see how horribly flawed I had been living. Only after those two precious moments, did I really begin to read books authored by women.  Such books as Women, Race & Class by Angela Davis, various works of Terri McMillian, Sister Souljah, and more recently, Chess B***h by Jennifer Shahade, have all helped me refine some of my sexist mind. I have much work to do, but it must be done if a Black man is going to have a solid role as a father.

I have seen many discussions on Hip-Hop and sexism and  I deeply appreciate the research on such sensitive topics.  At the same time, I feel as though some of these discussions remain over intellectualized. Do not get me wrong, Black intellectuals are one of the most neglected resources America has within its reach. However, their important ideas about rap videos by intellectuals do not trickle down to the block.

It would be interesting to see the discussions about rap music’s impact on young minds occur away from the university setting and more on high school grounds. Hip-Hop was not created on college campuses. It is a true product of the streets. One of the reasons  the work of Malcolm X was so effective is that he always went where the people were. Today’s intellectuals almost seem to be allergic to the prisons and juvenile halls (despite the fact that statistics tell us this is where many of our youth are). These panels should happen in prisons, juvenile halls and recreation centers (sponsored by the universities). I believe there is a horrific chasm between Black intellectuals, rappers, and rap fans who constantly analyze.

A repeated problem in discussions on sexism and Hip-Hop is that more time is spent beating up the negative rappers and almost no time is given to championing the rappers who show respect to the sisters.

No one mentions that 5% Nation of Gods and Earths, The Nation of Islam and the Sunni Muslims pioneered the idea of respect for women in Hip-Hop.  I do not hear these intellectuals talk about Amir Sulaimans poem about a woman who was raped entitled "How Beautiful Are You.” Moroccan Wu-Tanger Cilvaringz recently dropped what I believe to be one of the best love songs written in the history of Hip-Hop called “Sheherezad My Beloved.” Paris wrote “Assata's Song” way back, and it is a timeless song of Black love. Immortal Technique made many men cry with “You Never Know” and T-K.A.S.H. championed respect for women all over with“Turf War Syndrome.” Yet in discussions on Hip-Hop and sexism, we rarely find in-depth lyrical analysis on the rappers who hold women in high esteem.

Hip-Hop intellectuals need to be openly encouraging corporate radio and TV to support specific artists. Beyond that, these artists need to be on the panels! Sometimes I believe we get so political, or religious or philosophical about Hip-Hop that we lose sight of one simple fact. This is art!

Another enriching element might be if the panelists were more  honest in their discussions on love between Black men and women. If I want to know about war, I will ask a general who has been in the heat of battle. If I have a question about planting a tree, I will ask a farmer. It is very hard for me to use academic scholars as a source of Black love, when it is something they themselves have not achieved. Real love is more than cool quotes and demographic research. It is harder to watch discussions on what it takes to turn Black boys into productive men from women who hate men and men who hate themselves.

Maybe we could see more happily married Black men and women talk publicly about navigating the ocean of love. I would like to see Black women in solid relationships with Black men help teach other sisters how to overcome issues of distrust and allow themselves to be loved by a good Black man.

It is time for more personal stories from Black parents who identify with Hip-Hop on complex dilemmas such as raising teen girls in an oversexualized world. Yet, when it comes to Hip-Hop and sexism, we are still stuck on video girls, Imus and Snoop. I think if we can have dialogue that is more honest about our discussions, we can refine our approach. If we refine our approach, we might just reach the people we say we want to uplift. Nevertheless, unless and until the rappers redeem the Black women inside Hip-Hop, this genre of music will never again be that powerful tool of entertainment, education and political information it once was. I dedicate this to my mother, my wife and my daughter.

Adisa Banjoko is cofounder of the Hip-Hop Chess Federation.






Comments

 

james64 said:

Very well written, brethren...  Sex is as American as apple pie. It has been apart of American culture way before Hip Hop was thought of. I'm not saying there isn't a problem with the oversaturation of sexism in numerous artists lyrics, but blaming the entire problem on Hip Hop is almost laughable and still their are people, who will try to do just that. Another thing common in America is finding a scape goat to simplify the problem, in Hip Hop, America has it's scape goat to point the finger and say shame on you. However, the problem has existed for years. It's starts with raising your kids with a logical plan of action, and providing them with good morals and a sense of pride, so they won't feel like they have to degrade others to feel powerful (males) or be degraded in order to get power (females).

At the end of the day, that's what this is all about...The money, the cars, the flaunting of sexual promisciouty, the jewlery, sexist attitutes---it's all about putting on an appearance of power because we live in a capitalistic society and that's what you do to show your status of superiority. When it comes to Black folk, we always overdo sh#t, so the problem appears to be more than what it is for, lets say, a White individual who does the same thing as a sexist wealthy Black individual. The problem exists accross the board of racial lines, but we get blamed for the root of the problem because "we" love the lime light...
June 29, 2007 9:25 PM
 

mac187 said:

nice article man, props.
June 30, 2007 6:54 AM
 

kenna said:

Great article, I love seeing an individual realising their own problems and recifying them, not blaming others but trying to rectify the problem.

I am white and this same sexual problem goes on with our race too. I believe we all human, individuals and we should all treat each other the same. I am seeing a black female, I have been for over a year, but sexism doesnt exist in our relationship. Its equal, I have just finished my degree, she will next year, and then she will get her masters. With her own dreams of being a Zoologist, and my own thoughts of becoming a teacher, I believe I will have to sacrifice a lot for the relationship and put the woman first. This is a reversed position that men are used too. And honestly, I think in the 21st Century we are ready for this. We just need to make the step as males... not colour.

But yeah, american ways of blaming hip hop is a get out clause of their own problems. I believe self respect and morals are the key to any self respecting human being, we need to install this in everyone and it starts at home. Not on the radio.
June 30, 2007 7:54 AM
 

j.johnson said:

simply put, well stated.
June 30, 2007 7:57 AM
 

Grumpy said:

"I own the sexism in me"

Powerful...
June 30, 2007 8:24 AM
 

DRUGMATRIX said:

Good read, respect due.  It's nice to see a man become aware of his problem and consciously try and make a change
June 30, 2007 11:05 AM
 

ThatDamnJay_ahh said:

Props on a great article. You brought a lot of truth to the matter. I'm a Black man with a Black wife and children, and I love my people. People are quick to down what's good, or accentuate the negative, but are far slower in recognizing or giving respect due for those out there in the trenches...

I love my people. Peace.
June 30, 2007 12:06 PM
 

nashvilleh said:

some guys have a negative view of black women because the black women they dated were cheating,lying and trying to run game so this shouldnt all be placed on the black men only as needing to fix themselves because black women have alot of changes to make too and stop turning good black men who want to love them away...
June 30, 2007 12:36 PM
 

myspace.com/itsjohnp said:

in the famous words of SNOOP DOGG..."WE DON'T LOVE DEM HOES."
June 30, 2007 3:07 PM
 

n2me said:

nice story. glad to see a man stand up and take responsiblity for something instead of blaming it on his parents or society. it's good to witness a man grow.....
June 30, 2007 6:24 PM
 

Hoodgrown said:

"in the famous words of SNOOP DOGG..."WE DON'T LOVE DEM HOES"

That's what dudes say... but don't believe everything you hear in a rap songs cause Kurrupt was on that song as well and he dissed DMX and a few others over FOXY BROWN (of all people)!
June 30, 2007 6:58 PM
 

Hoodgrown said:

anyway... great article and I'd like to add my own observations....

1. Growing up I was always lucky to be around a ton of women as either friends or "other situations" doing so I learned a lot. Dudes play themselves A LOT and tend to think that women don't know this. I can't tell you how many times one of boys would be telling us how "he blew this shorty's back out last night", but man the story was sure different when you heard it from the women's perspective. Lol. Dudes tend to also ask really dumb questions like "am I the best person you've slept with?" or "and I'm the biggest?". Questions they don't really want an HONEST answer too? Lmao. From being around these girls... I learned what NOT to do and what it was that they wanted which helped me out A LOT coming up.

2. I also learned.. and was shocked to find out how many women had been date raped and/or molested and never told anyone! Like out of 20 women, it was like 15 had been through these type of situations. I couldn't believe it was that damn many! I posted this very subject on a message board on the XXL site about 2 years ago and some of the stories were heart wrenching man!!! The majority had never said anything until that post! Pissed me some dudes act like "taking the pussy" is no big deal! But it takes a SPECIAL kind of dude to remain excited while someone is crying and/or trying to fight them off! SHit, i"ve been in the middle of the damn act and if the person changes her mind, that's it. No begging pleading or any of that shit so I can't understand the mentality.

3. The crazy part is, that it seems the most disrespectful dudes toward women are the ones raised only by their mother. How the hell can this be? I thought if you're raised by your mom, you're supposed to treat every female like you would want someone to treat your mom but that doesn't seem to be the case! Maybe without a (real) man in the house, guys aren't learning how to become men. It seems they're learning their relationship skills from rap music where the average women is nothing more than a hoe or just some piece of ass not a person with feelings and aspirations beyond trying to get their hands in your pocket.

4. I didn't think much about the images of women until I had my daughters. Man that was definitely an eye-opener because now I notice everything. I was told that having daughters was my "payback" for my player ways growing up. My boy as well who was also a player. We did our thing, yea... but we never "took" anything and were never disrespectful which is why I'm still friends with almost all of my past "encounters".  But having daughters definitely changes your perspective. Sh*t, we already planned how we were gonna handle any dude that thinks he can lay hands or "take" anything from our daughters. Sh*t involves kidnapping and torture... and we'll leave it at that. Lmao. That's real though.

My man stated that he wasn't sure if he'd rather his daughters be lesbians than to date these screwed up young assholes coming up now!

5. Last but not least is this light skin/dark skin issue where most niggas seem to fall right into that bullshit. My 11 year old is my complexion and my youngest is light-skinned (because of her mom)... so I have the added complexity of raising my daughters to be strong and don't fall into the bullshit about dark-skinned sisters not being as beautiful as their lighter skinned counterparts. Not to let some ignorant ass with limited brain power classify them! That there's no such thing as "good hair" and "bad hair" and that everyone is different and the way THEIR supposed to be.



Okay.. i've rambled on so much that I forgot my original point.. lmao (i tend to do that some time).
so i'm going to end it here..

June 30, 2007 7:27 PM
 

nappyonion said:

Props on the article.  Bell Hooks has written a lot on some of the topics you've discussed.
June 30, 2007 8:17 PM
 

Carmeleyes said:

Adisa always writes such thought provoking material. Woman need to be just as proactive in fighting sexism as men need to be.

Oh, has anyone met Adisa. He has the sexiest smile ever.
June 30, 2007 10:17 PM
 

uptownsound said:

This is a thought provoking article that speaks to me, as a Black man about to step to the altar with a beautiful Black woman. It hits me on two levels. First, it takes a certain level of adult to recognize aspects of themselves that need improvement and work on those. Props to Adisa for not only being able to do that, but relay that in a public forum. Brothers need to see that type of development.

On another level, I love hip-hop and used to work within the music industry, but after seeing what the industry's done to the music (or what we allowed to have happen to it, but that's another post for another time), I decided to try to play my part and do something positive for the music I loved as well as the women who listened to it.

I started an internet radio station called "Forever True School" and put a show on there called "Hip-Hop Loves Women", consisting only of songs where men respect the women in their lives. I've got to cop the songs Adisa mentioned in this article and add it to the mix. Right now, I've got tracks like "Passing Me By" by the Pharcyde, "Beautiful Skin" by Goodie Mob, "Hold U", by Masta Ace, and  "Baby Phat" by De La Soul. It plays twice a day, at 3PM and midnight. I figure if I can be a bit of the change I want to see, I'm doing something right.
Check it out and let a brother know what you think. Peace

http://www.live365.com/stations/uptownsound
uptownsound@gmail.com
July 1, 2007 10:08 AM
 

I said:

Usually, I can run my mouth about a subject and go deep. Got much on my mind, right now, even in regards to my own woman but first off, I LOVE when people realize their own shortcomings AND actively try to irradicate them. Trust me, as a male with non-related flaws, I can honestly say it's tough to change but CAN be done. I've been on that crusade since 24 and I am almost a decade older, now. I preach about finding things within to get better results on the outside, not just for self but the betterment of mankind, as a whole. People limit their thoughts and only go for self in a "fuck everybody else" mentality but life will teach you lessons, HARD lessons...

As for the topic at hand, I could hardly be called a sexist. I have always loved women since birth, you could say. I champion women all the time, trying to get them to see themselves and grow so not to only get caught by bullshit bruvas out here, but just for the betterment of themselves, overall. I lost an ex to such a clown and the irony is how I always tried to guide her during our relationship and give her insight as to the things that go on out here. Go figure, eh? I can admit, I wasn't as aware of who I am as I am now, as I was still going through a lot of the early learning process of who I am and it was SCAREY...
I've had cats who know me even say to me, at times, when dealing with a woman, "I'm trying to be more like you." in how they handle themselves in the situation. I don't believe in that "whooped" bullshit. Too many males are too afraid to show their true selves to women or even among fellow males. It's a sad truth. I've known nothing but how to be real with myself, even at my own expense, and I've learned to fine tune it in my personal journey of growth over the last decade. It's liberating, for real....
Well, I guess I did get into this more than I expected. I love the responses to this great expression by Adisa and applaud anyone aware enough to admit they are flawed, and raise up to face those issues. One...
July 1, 2007 10:26 AM
 

odoggz said:

Nice piece here. Though, what many would call 'sexism', here, the rest of the world calls the 'role of women'. So I'm not quick to call 'roles' sexism, when most of the world exists just fine like that, outside of American and England- including the MUSLIM world.  Real sexism is a world wide issues, not a rap issue, and certainly not a BLACK only problem. The outright disrespectful stuff we're doing (men and women) to each other needs note, not just what's wrong with men. That's all I ever hear, that the man won't budge so there is no black love, blah blah blah. I've seen the hardest of hard rock dudes convert to soft as kittens when they met the right women, so you can't convince me that all men are that messed up. These women are not coming right anymore, either, and in fact, they love the bad boy idiots who dump on them.  Those dudes who DON'T listen are the ones they're procreating with, so women need a sitdown about what really makes a good man, so they can get some black love and respect.  Yes, I think women need a speech too, to tell them how they need to come at men, properly, to get respect! When I see a woman walking with dignity, I know idiot thugs don't try to get with her! They won't bother to disrespect her, and THAT is what women need to return to. Today, many play into the negativity that surrounds the claims of 'sexism', men and women, and when you call a woman out on that, oops then she has beef with you. lol  
I'm not a sexist, and don't want anyone coming at me as such, because a rapper said something sexist. A rapper does not reflect me, in any way but skin color! I'm not doing rap videos, with champagne pouring on breasts, with women acting trashy trying to have my baby to get paid for life. I'm not a rapper and that woman wouldn't give me the time of day, so I don't get to practice sexism on her, or any other women. So when people link black men, rap and sexism together, I don't appreciate it because white men, entertainment and sexism existed far before any rap version of sexism did (and still does), and I don't see anyone going at a white man's throat! Come on, half naked women, liquor, powerful cars with big wheels, adrenaline pumping- all used to sell products from Monster truck rallies, to Britney Spears to Superbowl- are aimed at young WHITE MEN, anyone blaming them for feminists and Britney shaving her head? After this Imus crap, everyone is linking black men and sexism, and sorry, I'm not the culprit, F your propaganda!
July 1, 2007 7:34 PM
 

Carmeleyes said:

Odoggz said that “roles” should not be considered sexism, however I find this article to address the issues of disrespect that exists within the rap and urban communities. Also, it is important to note that at no time did the writer of this piece say sexism is just a black or rap thing. Look at the audience this piece is written for, this site is called Allhiphop, so it would be inappropriate and would disinterest many readers if this piece covered every aspect of sexism and the collective culprits behind it. Like a true writer, this journalist wrote about what he knows and paid close attention to the audience he was speaking too. I think if anyone is looking for a compressive piece of sexism then I would suggest making a quick stop to your local bookstore and picking up a nice informative book that will cater to Odoggz need for knowledge. In addition, this piece does not suggest that all men are “messed up”. Like any human issue, some people have the problem and some do not, if the story does not apply to you or any of your friends consider yourself blessed to have such on the level men in your life.

I agree that women need to pull it together, but again this piece was not addressed for women. Which is appropriate, because I do not believe a man can tell us women what is wrong with us and what we do to fix the sexist world we live in? We should leave that story for a female journalist to explore.

As this poster said, he is not a rapper and not a sexist. Well, yeah for him. I have read this journalistic piece several times trying to find any of your points plausible but all I find is your statements to be uninformed and uneducated. Nowhere does this piece say ALL black men, rappers, etc are anything. He clearly states life as he has lived it and observed it, to suggest that his comments are unfounded or one-sided is simply silly. This article was written for people who have seen some issues within the rap and urban communities. Now, if you want to read a piece about white men, rock music and sexism then I suggest you do not go to a site called allhiphop.com. Consider going to site that caters to that audience.  Try the following websites – Blondie is a Group or read the stories on Rock Against Sexism. And remember these words “TARGET AUDIENCE”
July 1, 2007 11:18 PM
 

SusieOzbourne said:

Woman have to redeem themselves in hip hop. The men can pull us up and sit us on thrones but if we choose to stand for nothing then we lose our respect. When Biggy let Kim ride wit him that was her chance to represent women and she did but we all know in what way. As so with the small majority of female rappers that came after her. Woman have to each learn to love themselves. We have learn and cultivate the power that we posess, and truly perfect what it is that we say we do.

If you've never seen the movie "The Fifth Element" go cop that now. I feel like that movie is a metephor about the power that women posess and even more so, the power of love between man and woman. Lelu was a perfect human (complete dna strands) which represents the woman able to give birth and nurture her young. And Bruce Willis was a former government agent which represents man as a protecter, even though she was fully capable of protecting herself. He fell in love with her because she was unlike any woman he ever met in his life. She knew who she was and her divinity impressed him. He had no choice but to respect her if he wanted to be with her and she made that clear to him when he tried to kiss her while she was sleeping. She put the gun to his head and told him 'not ever without my permission.' Although as tough as she was she still needed his love to save the world. And when he did love her, the power that came out of her heart center was amazing...they couldnt do it without eachother.....Its the same for hip hop...and the Black Race.
July 6, 2007 6:44 PM
 

SusieOzbourne said:

Woman have to redeem themselves in hip hop. The men can pull us up and sit us on thrones but if we choose to stand for nothing then we lose our respect. When Biggy let Kim ride wit him that was her chance to represent women and she did but we all know in what way. As so with the small majority of female rappers that came after her. Woman have to each learn to love themselves. We have learn and cultivate the power that we posess, and truly perfect what it is that we say we do.

If you've never seen the movie "The Fifth Element" go cop that now. I feel like that movie is a metephor about the power that women posess and even more so, the power of love between man and woman. Lelu was a perfect human (complete dna strands) which represents the woman able to give birth and nurture her young. And Bruce Willis was a former government agent which represents man as a protecter, even though she was fully capable of protecting herself. He fell in love with her because she was unlike any woman he ever met in his life. She knew who she was and her divinity impressed him. He had no choice but to respect her if he wanted to be with her and she made that clear to him when he tried to kiss her while she was sleeping. She put the gun to his head and told him 'not ever without my permission.' Although as tough as she was she still needed his love to save the world. And when he did love her, the power that came out of her heart center was amazing...they couldnt do it without eachother.....Its the same for hip hop...and the Black Race.
July 6, 2007 6:45 PM
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