Don't Believe the Hype: Freshly Roasted Flavor Flav 
Published Saturday, August 11, 2007 3:16 PM
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    By Aqua & Paine

       
            While Flavor Flav may have become an object of ridicule through cable television’s last five years of programming, we, as a Hip-Hop journalists, can’t help but “roast” the man for his merits.

        It’s arguable that no “hype-man” in Hip-Hop history has done more. Flav, who with one late-released solo album, has always played an integral part within iconic Public Enemy throughout their 20 glorious years of recording, performing, and continuously educating. Perhaps Flav was merely a foil of comic relief to Chuck D and the Bomb Squad’s organized chaos of politics, social commentary, and hard truth. Perhaps equally, Flav was staged to be a court jester, as Professor Griff played shogun, and Terminator X (and today DJ Lord) played trumpeter within King Chuck D’s conscious court. But Flav could keep his comedic cape lined with ghetto dispatches as well. After all, for folk trying to survive in the inner city jungle, “911 Is a Joke” hit home. This Sunday on Comedy Central, we’ll see Flav wear these hats—presumably along with a Viking helmet, as he will endure the kind of jeering that Martin Lawrence opened up 15 years ago on Def Comedy Jam.

        Flavor Flav has lovingly played that part. But was there something greater at play? Firstly, we don’t discount Flav’s lyrical abilities. On every P.E. album, the ad-lib general was given his moment in the sun. 1998’s “Shake Your Booty” was the comic relief of the criminally-slept-on He Got Game soundtrack/album needed. Just as gangsters search for a heartfelt break in the machismo, Public Enemy always instilled Flavor to let audiences come up for air, let the blood flow back into their fists, and smile amidst the militant musical massacres that we all know and love.

        “Too Much Posse,” remains another Flav jewel within the P.E. catalogue. This 1987 hit allowed Flavor, as a resonant voice of the group, to proclaim just how deep the outfit mobbed, with his extensive presence on the track. The role was always defined, and carefully executed. Unlike Bushwick Bill’s undependable role within the Geto Boys, Public Enemy without Flavor Flav is a force of another color. He was never exploited within the group, added and subtracted for commercial purposes…William Drayton, Jr. was an essential component within Hip-Hop’s greatest group.

        That name, (W. Drayton) appears in the countless times P.E. has been sampled and interpolated. Although Flav wasn’t technically part of The Bomb Squad, and he wasn’t penning the verses that molded our consciousness, he was—and is—a valued member of the group. So while the New York (the chick, not the city), Red Sonja and fried chicken gags fly, it will be easy to get caught up in viewing Flav with celeb-reality blinders and only seeing tragic caricature. But really, don’t believe the hype.



    Comments

     

    KidKameleon said:

    Even though I think VH1 is trying to play him like a coon, I think Flav is very entertaining and insightful. The knowledge he kicks on the low is overlooked by the viking hats and now and later colored suits. He is actually a smart dude and a icon in hip hop. Do your thing bro, keep stackin them checks!!
    August 11, 2007 3:49 PM
     

    ralphy said:

    i cant wait to watch it they got alot of things to get on flav about then they got katt hosting so its gone be funny as hell i wonder if dave chappelle gon be there martin would be funny too
    August 11, 2007 3:55 PM
     

    DC CA$HVILLE said:

    I WATCHED THE UNCENSORED VERSION OF THE ROAST OF PAMELA ANDERSON TWICE, LAST NIGHT.  I HAVE TO TELL YOU GUYS, SHE GOT HER ASS LIT UP.  I DON'T KNOW WHO'LL BE AT FLAV'S ROAST, BUT I'M HOPING THAT JEFFERY ROSS, JIMMY KIMMEL, AND SARAH SILVERMAN ARE ON HAND.  I DON'T WANT ANYBODY WHO'S GOING TO BE ROASTING OTHERS, INSTEAD OF THE MAIN TARGET.  THEY NEED PEOPLE WHO CAN'T STAND FLAVOR FLAV AND HIS SHOWS.  I LIKE KAT WILLIAMS, BUT DAVE CHAPPELLE WOULD HAVE BEEN THE PERFECT ROAST MASTER FOR THIS EVENT.

    PEACE AND MORE HAIR GREASE,

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    August 11, 2007 4:11 PM
     

    nasim_theprince said:

    I'm really waiting on this roast.

    just imagine the possibilities, you have darkness jokes.

    you have crack jokes

    you have has been jokes

    these guys have the perfect target hopefully they take aim correctly.
    August 11, 2007 4:29 PM
     

    JaeHood said:

    Gonna be a sick one!
    August 11, 2007 4:43 PM
     

    Black Wall Street said:

    i'm going to record his roast tomorrow for ent. for the whole week
    August 11, 2007 5:51 PM
     

    King High Pimpn said:

    This go be this nust watched thing on tv sunday night,, UGLY jokes all day.

    Flav lil wayne real daddy
    August 11, 2007 6:06 PM
     

    KingKareem said:

    @Raw Tunes.....my Avatar is thicker than yours....

    @Flav....."What does it profit a man to gain the world and lose his soul?"

    @Illseed.....My kids need diapers.
    August 11, 2007 7:48 PM
     

    Tamara L said:

    Vote 4 me @ www.flavoroflovecasting.com/people/tnl28
    August 11, 2007 8:49 PM
     

    nashvilleh said:

    chappelle would have been perfect but he still has beef with comedy central so im sure he wouldnt do it for any amount of money
    August 11, 2007 9:10 PM
     

    dirtybalance said:

    Growing up on PE, it was hard watching Flav get ousted about his coke issues. Then it was like of course he was on coke, look at him and his antics. Watching him stage the biggest coon show for VH1 has been hard but look at all the hoochies he has helped along the way. I try to keep my good memories of Flav by playing " I Can't do Nothing For Ya". And when they severely light his ass up at hat roast, I am sure he will take it well, but he is gon get tore out the frame. "It was you that chose your doom, you built a maze you can't get thru, I tried to help you all I can, but I can't do nothing for you man"
    August 11, 2007 9:23 PM
     

    EastOaklandRoy said:

    Jimmy Kimmel is the SHIT the BEST TALK SHOW EVER!

    HE BE on there HIGH off the CALI PURP and HE ASK REAL QUESTIONS!

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    August 12, 2007 12:51 AM
     

    Lil Loony said:

    Flav iz koo but he need to learn how to eat right 4 real
    August 12, 2007 2:38 AM
     

    TWON THE DON said:

    NO HOMO BUT THIS NIGGA LOOK JUS LIKE THE BACK OF A DOG'S ASS.BUT HE KEEP IT PIMPIN WIT THEM PHAT BOOTY HOES ON THAT SHOW. BUT PE. CAN SUCK ALL YALL DICK! I AINT FUCKIN WIT THAT AINT SHIT U CAN TELL ME ABT THAT BULL.........SHIT FIGHT MY DICK! AINT HATIN. JUS SAYIN. AND IF U DNT LIKE WHAT I SAID U AND YO KID CAN EAT WEE,WEES AND DIE. JUS SAY MY U BITCH I'LL COME TO YO HOUSE.
    August 12, 2007 2:53 AM
     

    TWON THE DON said:

    KING HIGH PIMPIN IS IT? DUDE YOU GOT YO HAND ON YO MOVE WITH THE BABY IN THE ROOM? ULLL...........SOMTHING WRONG WIT THIS PICTURE U MUST B THE KING OF R&B. RAP AND BABIES. ULLL................. U GOTTA PEE,PEE. THAT NT PIMPIN! THATS WRONG!!!!!! LOOOK EVERYBODY AT KING HIGH PIMPIN
    August 12, 2007 3:29 AM
     

    TWON THE DON said:

    KING HIGH PIMPIN IS IT? DUDE YOU GOT YO HAND ON YO MOVE WITH THE BABY IN THE ROOM? ULLL...........SOMTHING WRONG WIT THIS PICTURE U MUST B THE KING OF R&B. RAP AND BABIES. ULLL................. U GOTTA PEE,PEE. THAT NT PIMPIN! THATS WRONG!!!!!! LOOOK EVERYBODY AT KING HIGH PIMPIN
    August 12, 2007 3:30 AM
     

    doctorbattlerap said:

    Aqua & Paine:  Correction. Public Enemy is not the greatest Hip Hop group of all time.  The All Mighty Geto Boys are!  But I agree Flav is the best hype man ever.  And he's smart as hell.
    August 12, 2007 7:40 AM
     

    Sinistah aka Sin Piffcaso said:

    i heard or saw the previes to this, who was da one who said, he looks like a crackhead in a Viking Helmet........that alone already got me intent on watching dude get verbally slain....anybody got the time and duration for this shit.....cause i doubt i'd skip Entourage to see Flav get embarrassed especially knowing what Public Enemy means to me..........
    August 12, 2007 9:04 AM
     

    HipHopKnowItAll said:

    Flav went from a front man for a strong, postive movement to some coon ass clown...They had him holding big buckets of KFC and making all these dumb ass faces...He really played himself with me...But, I definately would have loved being with all the women of the show, can't hate on that.
    August 12, 2007 10:15 AM
     

    j.johnson said:

    VH1 is like a modern day minstrel show. Out of the blue they just pop up with all these "nigga" shows. And don't get mad, thats what they are and thats who they we designed for. Its definitely not created for African Americans. Come on, flavor of love, charm school, i love new york, what other show can they come up with that would further embarrass me? i m not sure, but come fall time or sweeps week, ill bet i find out. I mean it aint shit but viacom, which owns vh1,mtv,comedy central,and yet bet too
    August 12, 2007 10:47 AM
     

    Black Wall Street said:

    what's next for viacom BET?
    August 12, 2007 1:14 PM
     

    TWON THE DON said:

    all u dude looking like hoe with yo top off be a man but yo top on bitchies
    August 12, 2007 3:34 PM
     

    AceLife said:

    i cant support this guy. to us we see him as PE. to the rest of the world he's a living stereotype.
    August 12, 2007 5:15 PM
     

    ILLAIM said:

    Flav is a Pawn….

    He has went from lending a integral necessary balance within a classic group, to  another Comfy hoe in the mired within the capitalistic system .

    VH-1 smh

    Niggaz aint stupid…

    Well done “Hip Hop Honors” can only placate anger of exploitation via coon creation for so long
    August 12, 2007 6:56 PM
     

    B3A To Tha N3R said:

    shit my man katt williams is hosting this no way im missing it...shits in 1hour
    August 12, 2007 9:04 PM
     

    B3A To Tha N3R said:

    shit my man katt williams is hosting this no way im missing it...shits in 1hour
    August 12, 2007 9:05 PM
     

    King High Pimpn said:

    TWON LUVS FUN said:
    KING HIGH PIMPIN IS IT? DUDE YOU GOT YO HAND ON YO MOVE WITH THE BABY IN THE ROOM? ULLL...........SOMTHING WRONG WIT THIS PICTURE U MUST B THE KING OF R&B. RAP AND BABIES. ULLL................. U GOTTA PEE,PEE. THAT NT PIMPIN! THATS WRONG!!!!!! LOOOK EVERYBODY AT KING HIGH PIMPIN

    TWON LUVS FUN said:
    all u dude looking like hoe with yo top off be a man but yo top on bitchies


    (Fags getting Rowdy with there words since they approved same sex marriages)  
    August 12, 2007 10:33 PM
     

    TWON THE DON said:

    king high bitch LIL BOY I'LL COME TO YO MOMMA HOUSE PULL YO PANZ DOWN AND STICK MY FINGER IN YO BOOTY U BITCH! KEEP THEM BABIES OUT THE ROOM U PUSSY ASS BITCH FUCKIN P.V.
    August 12, 2007 11:07 PM
     

    TWON THE DON said:

    I THOUGHT U AND THAT BABY WAS GETTING 2NITE. NAKED MAN
    August 12, 2007 11:13 PM
     

    King High Pimpn said:

    @TWON LUVS FUN
    Want me to show you some attention,, I Will cuz I show all Bytches some attention when they constantly typing my name,, You sad,, go get your own computer,, before I send a worm to your mama computer,,  I control bytches,, So I'm telling you to say some else wit my name in,, I command you to reply to ths post bytch,, Do as I say
    August 12, 2007 11:47 PM
     

    myspace.com/presice said:

    This was some funny shit...just about everyone was on point
    August 13, 2007 12:16 AM
     

    BadnewsVABoi said:

    Man that shit was so funny!!!  The best comedy I've seen since Katt Williams DVD... Everybody needs to see that shit... 2Funny!
    August 13, 2007 12:29 AM
     

    K_ShreveportLA318 said:

    It was aight. they should have gotten on Flavs ass a lil better
    August 13, 2007 12:43 AM
     

    KINGDONG said:

    THAT SHIT WAS KINDA OF CORNY!!!!!!!BUT FLAV! DO YA THING....CHIEF....GET THAT PAPER PIMP.......
    August 13, 2007 1:12 AM
     

    TWON THE DON said:

    BITCH BOY STOP! THE DON SAID PUT YO TOP ON N FRONT OF THEM KIDS P.V.
    August 13, 2007 3:01 AM
     

    TWON THE DON said:

    i think all white people are some hoess i think they kid r bitchiess, i think they have a snow ball chance n hell bein somebody cause they all have sex with each other, they all got adis and they hate yo black ass. keep laughing NIGGAS... AND U DNT LIKE WHAT I SAY FUCK U N YO ASSS! IF WANT A RACE WAR U GOT 1. KKK KILLER! WATCH A NIGGA SAY IM WRONG!
    August 13, 2007 3:28 AM
     

    Bertofab said:

    Snoop is a hell of a lot funnier than I thought he'd be...Carrot Top looked uncomfortable up there...Brigitte Nielsen was madd corny though.

    Overall, it was hilarious, and is probably the only thing I'd watch on TV associated with Flav.
    August 13, 2007 4:01 AM
     

    MAK™ said:

    i agree with Bertofab....

    Shit was funny!!! Brigitte kinda killed the mood though.
    August 13, 2007 5:26 AM
     

    leeta said:

    that show was WACK WACK WACK..on some of the lame jokes i was *silence* and i hear crickets because that was not funny
    August 13, 2007 6:08 AM
     

    Boss Up said:

    i missed it!!
    August 13, 2007 9:08 AM
     

    odeisel said:

    jimmy kimmel is a fake arsenio th eway his show is set up.

    Flav would roast anyone up there.  i rememebr bumpin into him at white castles on 149th and getting into a snap contest.  Dude had mad kids with him, but he was very funny.  It's not like he is this way for television, this is who he is. he's also a classically trained musician. say what you want baout him, but he's getting paid to be himself and others are paid  to front and lie
    August 13, 2007 9:28 AM
     

    bligz said:

    I THINK SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE CRACKHEAD BLAH BLAH SHOULDNT HAVE BEEN SAID ALL THAT CHARCOAL RACIST SHIT; UNNECESSARY;;;; HITHERTO, FLAV WAS A GENTLEMAN AND HANDLED IT WELL....KUDOS TO HIM PEACE FLAV....YOUS A GOOD DUDE;;;JUST LAUGH TO THE BANK WITH THAT
    August 15, 2007 8:15 AM
     

    INDUETIME said:

    that was my first time ever watchin that show.  that shit is crazy. one dude say flav look like a skeleton wrap in black electrical tape. i aint neva laugh so hard before in my life when i heard dat
    August 15, 2007 11:28 AM
     

    hater hurter said:

    they roasted each other just as bad as they did flav but it was good to hear lisa say "MY pussy has been on more black mens faces then purple koolaid" and flav say to snoop "this is the second time u got away with murder". if u havent seen it watch it cuz it is funny.
    August 15, 2007 2:45 PM
     

    Pussy Can Kill U said:

    I saw it, and it was funny ( in a Good Times kinda way).  It is extremely sad however, he has falled so far from his roots as part of a movement. I would have been more satified if Chuck roasted him in the intro for real. Burn Hollywood Burn!!!!!!!!
    August 16, 2007 9:31 PM
     

    groovetone94 said:

    Man whatever...Flav doin his thing...why do we ALWAYS have to do things to please everyone else...If the earth was filled with only blacks then most of you negroes wouldn't even think of it..you'd probably laugh your @sses off...but since there are other races, you feel like you have something to prove...GO FLAV do your thing daddy..by the way and no disrespect..Twon the Don you sound like an ignoramus..lol...just jokin daddy..just can't understand what you type
    August 17, 2007 11:41 AM
     

    Kashena Austin said:

    The only hype that I see is the Vh1 special on a search for a girl. This is very degrading while very entertaining which means this degrades even more! All these women get on tv for entertainment and if for anything else should not be there. This is a sad story of someone who is looking for love and cannot seem to find real love because everyone is out for his money. I have not see yet, where one female has gone on the show and actually devoted herself to him and only him and has cut out all the side talk and really just dug in and made sure that she presented herself as worthy enough to be by his side. I do understand that with all the female competition that that can be quite difficult, however, I do believe that if you really want someone, you will do you best to get them. I have had to compete against a white girl before and you know what I did, I said I quit! I don't compete against non-competition. That is not on my list of things to do. I figure that if a man has a lust for white women, I really am not what he wants. I will not ever be white, nor will I ever have a desire to be white. I say that for a female to be with a white girl is safer than a man. Bottom line, because for one, you should not see color when your a female so you are safe, because white girls can be quite irratating unfortunately, it's like being on the caged side of the zoo, just wild animals that if are in the jungle are safe. Basically, the lesson is, that it's not fair to put someone up against white girls as competion because they really have nothing inside as you can see from Becky, Ms. Buckwild, just filled with nothing but words that can hurt so in effort not to release them, you alter them and put down while making everyone feel comfortable. Very disgusting. That goes for the rest of her kind, so I hope that this time, the ladies of color can represent better and show that not every woman is motivated by money alone, show that there is principal and that respect is a must and that you can behave well around a crowd of people and be nice to each other. That doesn't mean that you have to have sex with each other, just hold, that just means that you show yourself friendly and that you have common sense and that you know that you will be treated the same way that you treat someone else either now, or later! And, learn to appreciate him and don't have that two facedness about you, show good like New York in the scene and then on the side, you erase all of what you just said for good. Make the man happy so he dosen't go on another quest for love!!! :)
    August 21, 2007 1:35 PM
     

    QayyimAllahKabar said:

    Flav is definitely a Hip Hop icon, but he needs to listen to Burn Hollywood Burn again.
    August 24, 2007 1:03 PM
     

    tha clear said:

    I must admit initially I was disappointed in the coonifaction of flav. He jumped the shark with surreal life and became relevant for irrevelance. GOAT Hypeman for GOAT Group.

    "so either join the crew, or get BEAT DOWN!!!"
    August 25, 2007 1:45 AM
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