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Election '08: Hillary Not Quick To Back Down
Published Monday, April 28, 2008 6:00 PM
By The Wolf

Last Tuesday Sen. Hillary Clinton won the Democratic Pennsylvania primary, beating Sen. Barack Obama by 9.4 points, which was enough of a margin for the Clinton camp to round it up to ten, making it the double-digit win they had needed. Undeniably, this will continue this long and brutal campaign, but in actuality did this primary change the big picture? Did her win help make her case that she would be the better Democratic nominee? And how important was race in this contest? These are all questions we’ll be unwrapping in this primary edition of Election ’08.

 

By the numbers Clinton made small gains. She picked up 12 elected delegates, 200,000 more votes, and one contest, but Obama is still the overall leader. He has 1,719 delegates to her 1,586; he’s won 29 contests to her 15 (not counting her ‘wins’ in Florida and Michigan), and he leads in popular vote by roughly 300,000 to 400,000 votes. So though Hillary may claim that, ‘the tide is turning’ this was by no means a sea change.


In fact as the numbers stand she might be worse off today than she was yesterday. Why? Because yesterday it was possible that she might have taken a huge win giving her 20 to 30 delegates and 300,000 to 400,000 more votes. Then she would have been in a much stronger place to ride out the rest of the primaries and hope to at least pull even with Obama come convention time. If that had been the case she would have had a much, much stronger argument to make to the Super delegates to vote for her since Obama and her would have been in a statistical dead heat. But as Ambinder noted,

 

“Clinton's chances of winning the nomination based on pledged delegates is effectively over tonight.

 

If Obama keeps his pledged delegate lead to around 150, Clinton needs to win 70% of them on May 6 -- and if not, 80% of them after May 6.

 

That's more than next to impossible.” [Boldface mine]

So by the numbers Clinton’s campaign is done. Now all that’s left is spin, and there is a lot of it.


On Clinton’s side they are stressing two key points. The first is that delegate numbers don’t count, but it’s the popular vote that matters. In that case Hillary does have a tiny chance to eke that out but considering that most new voters go to Obama (In PA he beat Clinton in new voters 59-39) she has an uphill battle. The second point is that Obama outspent Hillary in PA paying over 11 million for ads in PA. The idea behind that is that she wins contests even when she’s coming with less cash. Of course that leads to another fact that’s problematic for Clinton. Right now her campaign is flat broke, and when that happens to campaigns they usually end. Of course Hillary could Bloomberg it, and pay for it herself, but like Bloomberg she knows doing so would risk her really becoming a vanity candidate, a title few politicians would embrace.


Meanwhile, in the Obama camp, their spin seems unduly optimistic though their fundamental premises are sound. Their argument is that they did much better in PA then they did in another Clinton stronghold, Ohio, especially pointing to their statistical gains with white men and older people. Of course that didn’t really help on the PA county map, where Obama pretty much was boxed in by the outlining suburbs, though I’m sure it does help to counteract Clinton’s popular vote argument.


Ultimately and unfortunately, as Josh Marshall stated, “I'd say the real story is that this leaves us basically where we were.” If you’re a Clinton supporter you have a reason to get up today, and if you’re an Obama supporter you have a reason to get up today. The delegate math is a little tighter than it was pre-PA primary, but it doesn’t substantially change the overall shape of things and it looks like were still heading towards a Super delegate fiasco.


The last thing I want to note about this Primary though could be the thing that least affects the candidates, but is the most telling about American politics and culture. If you look at yesterday’s exit polls you’ll notices some pretty interesting lines that have been drawn in places you might have expected them to be. While it was projected that the black and white vote would be stark (Obama took blacks 84-16), what wasn’t as apparent was that the clearest divide was among age.

 

Basically, as people got older in PA they went for Clinton, this also explains why Obama gets such a boost from new voters—they tend to be young. What this says about race quite possibly supports the argument that Obama made in his ‘We the People’ speech that says that today’s racial disputes are generational. This isn’t to say that older voters vote for Clinton because she’s white, but there does seem to be some proof that it is a factor. How this info will change the dynamic of the campaigns is anyone’s guess but this nuance will have to be addressed in some manner by the Obama camp.

 

Things to look forward to: More super delegates will flock to Obama by the end of the week, and they might be tied in that category by the beginning of May. Should that happen, or he takes the lead then Hillary will be forced out.


The Wolf runs a blog on political matters at www.wordofthepeople.blogspot.com. His first novel, The Intellectual Prostitute, will be dropping this fall.

Comments

 

Tommy K. said:

0.62th!

Obama 08!
April 28, 2008 6:04 PM
 

Cholo1510 said:

Good read...A lot of good facts too...I am on the fence with these two...I am voting for the dem no matter who makes it again McCain...But i lean a bit more toward CLinton...60/40 maybe Idk...By the way the Clintion caimpaign broke thing changed slightly when she raised 10 mill in like 2-3 days i think it was. Politically, they have almost the same stances...So after that it comes to personal choice. I like Obama. But i think he favors the rich...His statement about small town folk leads me to believe that he has more cocky things to say...Hillary has her drawbacks too and some would say who needs Clinton for yet another term. In a recent polls. It was said that Hillary was the dem more likely to beat McCain 50 to 41. As opposed to obama 46 to 41...This was sort of the opposite as it stood a few weeks agoo...People are starting to see that if Obama goes up against McCain, all the dirt they throw on his name could come back to haunt him. With Hillary her dirt is widely know and sort of has for a decade. People are over it. Either way..I think this election no matter how it plays out should spawn a Democratic President (Female or black i think thats amazing!)
April 28, 2008 7:38 PM
 

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April 28, 2008 8:25 PM
 

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April 28, 2008 8:31 PM
 

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April 28, 2008 9:29 PM
 

kolorbl9d said:

Vote Obama! Clinton Say's whatever favors her at the time or whatevers in her best interest. Obama keeps it real. The Clinton's made over 108 million since leaving office, Barack just paid off his school loans at age 43; He's more down to earth and far from the elitist she's trying to portray him as. She's a fraud!

Obama 08
April 28, 2008 11:58 PM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

The elite shadow controllers of the Democratic party foolishly called super delegates helped to create a serious problem. They knew when Obama won eleven straight that it would be impossible for HRC to catch him in pledged delegates, but they expressed pure indecision about who they would support.

That gave HRC the green light to go negative and try to make Obama appear unelectable. Throughout all of this Obama is still bring new people into the Democratic party. He is taking blow after blow, while HRC tries to tell us she was tired and that is why she lied about being under Sniper fire.  

Now with the Democratic party looking broken up while McCain is allowed to do whatever he wants Howard Dean is trying to make it clear that they have to make a decision. If HRC would have won eleven straight and took the lead in pledged delegates there would have been no argument that he should drop out. Everything else they are using to attack Obama is just negative campaigning designed to discredit him, but we are talking about the Clintons trying to discredit somebody. That is like the Bush's trying to discredit somebody.
April 29, 2008 1:25 AM
 

Oath said:

She's waitin precious campaign time... Obama is going to be the first black man to beat a white woman and not go to jail for it!!!!

But....... on the other side.... Howard Dean said the nominee will be based on who is more "electable" not delegates....
April 29, 2008 1:54 AM
 

Asher "Black Bomb" Sommer said:

Hillay is a powerhungry slut, so she is the one,
that is not electable. She will say anything to
please everybody just for her to take office.
She does not care about anybody than herself.
How can she serve in the interest of the
American people? Then even McCain is the
better choice to most.

Obama 08'

April 29, 2008 2:36 AM
 

kolorbl9d said:

HILLARY CLINTON WILL DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO GET BACK IN OFFICE.

SHE WILL SABOTAGE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND BARACK OBAMA TO WIN THE NOMINATION. SHE FEELS LIKE ITS HER OR NOTHING.

IF SHE DONT GET THE NOMINATION, SHE DONT WANT THE DEMOCRATS TO WIN.

THAT WAY SHE CAN COME BACK IN 2012 AS THE "I TOLD YOU SO" CANDIDATE. WHEN SHE'S THE ONE WHO PURPOSELY SABOTAGED THE PARTY IN THE FIRST PLACE.
April 29, 2008 12:32 PM
 

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April 30, 2008 1:20 AM
 

hiphopgivesback.org said:

I am having a difficult time understanding why Hillary has yet to pull out. What is her plan? What is there plan? There is thing about the New World Order / North American Union going around and the Clintons are apart of it. If Barack does win, I hope he does not make her VP. I feel she will go as far as to have him ASSASSINATED, which in return will make her PRESIDENT! Or she could simply be hangingin there to further demoralize him so she can win in 2012!

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