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SICK SUNDAYS: Swagger Like Drake, Wayne Puts in OT, Lupe Talks Retirement 
Published Sunday, October 12, 2008 2:00 PM
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By Odeisel
What's good people? Sick Sundays once again coming to bring you what's hot and good in the Hip-Hop landscape.  One thing before we go further I want to touch on is the use of the vocoder autotune, or whatever it is to make rappers sound like Soundwave from the transformers.

It's garbage.  It's wack with Kanye, it's wack with Wayne, it's wack with 50 Cent and it's just flat out wack.  These higher level "emcees" should be ashamed of themselves for following trends like this.  Let T-Pain have that trash.

How are all these guys talking about swagger they have and how nice they are and they following lil or new dudes? Meh.  Triple meh.  You're better than that.  Get your weight up.

Aight, off the soap box, on to the music


Cory Gunz-All About Mine

Case in point.  Cory is generally acknowledged as a young lion and ferocious on the mic.  On this song I can't tell this from a generic Wayne autotuned up song.  Gunz, come back to Earth on this and get back to Bodybagz type stuff.  It will be better for you in the long run.



Busta Feat. Weezy & Luda-Throw It Up

More heat from Busta.  It's almost a true tragedy that he's dropping so much heat that no one seems to give a damn about.  This time he's got back-up with two upper level emcees.  To be honest Busta kinda wipes them off this joint.  It's lucky enough there's no auto found on this one, the beat is a lil slow for Bus, but it passes.



Drake-Swagger Like Us

This is probably gonna be the next A Milli with everybody rapping over it. Drake does a solid job of getting down even though he has an advantage cause he got a blueprint.  He doesn't wipe anyone off but he holds his own. Look out for this guy.  He's getting better every rhyme.  Or every other rhyme depending on whether you hear a Wayne verse.



Killa Mike-Can You Hear Me

I f***s with Killa Mike.  This ain't new or anything but I just wanted to throw it in.  Mike is always on the job lyrically and his flow is different. Support the grind



The Kid Famous-What I Wrote While I Was Taking A S**T

This is altogether strange.  Solid flow and delivery, vid quality is crisp for an internet joint.  I don't know that i can get with rhyming on the toilet. Great to break the monotony though.  Nobody has swagger like this for sure. Bluuuurt.







Lil Wayne & Juelz Santana-Pick N Roll

I think this combo is good for each other.  The seem to make each other step up  because I don't remember actually digging what Juelz had to say in a minute.  This is solid. Here's to hoping that they actually finish that album together. Gotta find someway to work off that 2 million. Heat.




Gorilla Zoe Feat. Lil Wayne-Lost

Melancholy joint by Zoe is very somber and takes you on a depressing role. Wayne comes through on the help out but then...he's back with the autotune.  He's a better rapper than this.  I know I'm harping on it but sheesh   I was digging the song until Weezy came on with that.  He brings the song down. Zoe represents on this.  Most of you will dig this, so it's not wack but w/e.



Ludacris Feat. The Game & Willie NorthPole-Call Up The Homies


Game and Luda do their best EPMD impression going back and forth about Luda's field trip to L.A. You heard this song before in many different versions but it does its job. Rapper visits Cali and needs to stay strapped blablabla.  Last verse is left to the newcomer Willie, who outshines both veterans on this song. It's good to hear Luda not rapping about ass, and Game keeps the names to a minimum (Although he's still rocking his Air Forces). It bumps.





Sedrew Price-Can You Feel It


A joint from a young hungry dude.  He's getting a ton of buzz but to be honest, I don't know what separates him from any other new guy. Good energy but songs with cats in the back ground yelling AYYE reached their peak with "What You Know About That." I guess he's attempting an anthemic joint but in my opinion he should find out who he is on the mic and stay away from other people's lanes.  But hey what do I know? If you like it then bang it.

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Lupe Talks Retirement

He's arguably the most gifted emcee of this generation  and after two albums and one on the way he's already talking retirement.  That would be such a waste. Personally, if you love something you never walk away from it but whatever.  Good luck to him. Here's his words.




Jay-z -99 Problems and Palin Ain't One

Hov getting his political on.  Some agree, some disagree.  I just hope that as someone who has seen so much of the world he can talk about something other than what he used to be and talk about his journey to who he is now.  30 ain't the new 20.  Grow up on the mic. If you're a real hustler like you say hustle some new s**t and make them like it. The Blue Magic is easy. Nas is taking the hard route.  You're up now but not for long.



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Bonus Coverage.  Class of 88 v 1.2.  Be on the lookout next week for volume 2.  Peace out

Class of 88v 1.2

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Shout to the Bay Area, Shout to Mac Dre (R.I.P) Peace to Mac Minister (Hold Ya Head)  I'll Leave this one up to you guys.  Bang it or Blow it

Y.B OF THA PILLIONAIRES - "RAP SUPERSTAR" from YB PILL on Vimeo.

Comments

 

D.O.C said:

LUPE CAN'T RETIRE,HIP-HOP NEEDS HIM

BUSTA IS TOO UNDER-RATED
October 12, 2008 2:28 PM
 

anomali_ygb said:

lupe's first 2 albums were straight classics. i think he isn't seeing the sale numbers that his music should have got and it's discouraging.
Keep making  the music for us lupe, if you stop then we have one less person kicking some real lyrics and more b.s.
October 12, 2008 2:31 PM
 

God MC said:

Lupe aint goin anywhere, he knows we depending on him to keep pushing the envelope musically and lyrically.

Gorilla's Zoe's shit with Wayne, has Atlanta on lock can't move nowhere without hearing it.

Drake Drizzy Rogers is one of the best up and comings, alot of people putting their money on Charles Hamilton, Wale etc I got mines of DRIZZY!!!!!!!

Cory is a ferocious rapper, but someone got to to teach him to write a real record.  Spitting alone aint going to get it done.

Sedrew Price GOT NEXT SERIOUSLY.
October 12, 2008 2:35 PM
 

DJ TEKNISION said:

IT'S ABOUT TIME SOMEONE PROTEST THIS AUTOTUNE OR VOCORDER OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT!!!  IT'S COOL WHEN ONE PERSON DOES IT SOMETIMES BUT THIS IS GETTING CRAZY EVERYONE IS USING IT AND ALL THESE SONGS ARE SOUNDING A LIKE.. I KNOW ROGER TROUTMAN USED IT BUT HE DIDN'T USE IT ALL THE TIME. I CAN'T WAIT TILL THIS FAD PASS.

LUPE YOU CAN'T RETIRE WE ALREADY HAVE ENOUGH WACK EMCEES IN THE MAINSTREAM.  WE NEED A FEW REAL EMCEES TO HOLD THE MIC.

http://djteknision.podOmatic.com
MIXES 4 EVERYONE!!!
October 12, 2008 2:36 PM
 

Juelz13 said:

Lupe cant retire...hes the only thing saving hip-hop!
October 12, 2008 2:43 PM
 

odeisel said:

i ain't even like that shit when  Roger did it.  save that shit for cats on cybertron
October 12, 2008 2:46 PM
 

getmoney2 said:

LUPE REAL RETIREMENT STATEMENT

HTTP://WWW.MYGHETTOTV.COM
October 12, 2008 2:49 PM
 

Katalyst said:

O, Im with you 100 on the Vocoder shit!
This and the previous articles sparked a great idea too.
Imma check back in an see how the press is smashn on this garbage.
Lupe don't retire just keep makin that organic hip hop kidd.
Jay, well Jay dont have it in him to talk about anything other than the past, cause the shit he's doin now in his personal life dont connect with 85 to 90 % of the Hip Hip audience.
(yall know: trips to France renting yatchs on the Mediterranean sea)? good for him but not for Hip Hop.
there comes a time when you actually have to give back from where you took.
I guess you can tell I really feel this one cause Hov is so Fuckn talented. just not a lot of heart tho.
*I need to hear a Cory Gunz full album before I give the "Stay power endorsement"
   
October 12, 2008 2:53 PM
 

Katalyst said:

Oh and the Vocoder is just symbolic to the state of Hip Hop in general "Its not our real VOICE!!!!!!!!"
October 12, 2008 2:54 PM
 

Cmacjb said:

Lupe is in my top 5 nigga can't retire Hip Hop and the world needs him. He better drop like 4 more albums I hope he changes his mind with all the fan base he got now.
October 12, 2008 3:09 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

I just heard a gospel song and they were using the Vocoder... smh

Good tracks though. I like that Juelz/Wayne joint. We need Lupe In the Game!
October 12, 2008 3:16 PM
 

tianna2683 said:

EXCUSE ME BUT WAYNE IS THE ONE WHO STOLE DRAKES WHOLE VERE ON THE VMA`S. THAT WAS DRAKE`S VERSE OF A SONG HIM AND WAYNE WACK ASS DID 2GETHER. DRAKE BEEN KILLIN IT!
October 12, 2008 3:17 PM
 

Howard McFly said:

Bout time drake is gettin some play hes been hot for some years now
October 12, 2008 3:24 PM
 

odeisel said:

uhhh yeah that's what i said. news flash lincoln shot.  we actually covered that months ago. lay off the caps ti ti
October 12, 2008 3:26 PM
 

Mightydog said:

Idk if wayne writes for drake or drake writes for wayne but  that swagga like us was str8 fire!! &Real talk I was taKING my weekly shit when I was playing these with my laptop in the bathroom. Then I came across Kid Famous & was like Oh shit!(pun intended)Plus his song is hot. Killa Mike got joints that dont disappoint. I'm digging this sunday selection.
October 12, 2008 3:34 PM
 

micromark said:

In my opinion your are a dumb critic, just throw tracks on there like we never heard them or say things like "you need to step up your hustle shit, or hustle flow and make them like you" I'm going to not even say anything else before "I self destuct"
October 12, 2008 3:37 PM
 

DontDieDontKillAnyone said:

Will be a dark day when Lupe decides to finally leave the rap game. I'd say Hip Hop needs him more then he needs Hip Hop
October 12, 2008 3:39 PM
 

Commander said:

Yo' Lupe Hip Hop needs you....... and in particular the Chi needs you. I think you just hit a [Writers Block] you may need to chill for a bit, gather your thoughts, hit the Lab............ and give the World True Urban Science from a Hip Hop Doctor's point of View.

Retirement is NOT the answer my Brotha!

http://folksandpeoplenationsstrategyforpeace.blogspot.com



October 12, 2008 4:04 PM
 

odeisel said:

i'm not a critic at all chump.  but don't call anyone dumb until you learn the difference between your and you're "micromark".
October 12, 2008 4:28 PM
 

Neven said:

Retirement coming from a man that said Hip HOP saved his life............. come on even Lupe needs publicity you watch he won't do it
October 12, 2008 4:37 PM
 

stlouisda1st said:

That shit go way back sinc e the 30's, 40's who gives a fuck you get paid to talk, do your research before you even comment on shit like this.
October 12, 2008 5:51 PM
 

E.S.O. Boy said:

Man if I was Lupe I would call it quits too. Yall keep saying "HIP HOP NEEDS YOU!!" Well he been hear, and hiphop ain't been very grateful. His albums are classics, but have below average sells. Weezy releases garbage, Jeezy releases garbage, Soulja Boy releaes garbage, they all go Gold or better...Lupe releases high BLUE MAGIC quality, and he barley goes gold....I'd quit too.
October 12, 2008 5:56 PM
 

poe said:

LMFAO@tommy k


Lupe u need to retire some of these other rappers.


http://www.myspace.com/musiqjunkyproductions


http://www.myspace.com/dboythebandyt

October 12, 2008 6:13 PM
 

BamaAssFrank said:

hey E.S.O . I agree but "The Cool" did go gold, also what rapper yall know that said they were gonna retire and actually do it and stay retired?

Straight from the RIAA website:

Artist
FIASCO, LUPE Title
LUPE FIASCO'S THE COOL Certification Date
04/15/2008 Label
ATLANTIC
Award Description
GOLD Format
ALBUM Category
SOLO Type
ST
Artist
FIASCO, LUPE Title
SUPERSTAR Certification Date
09/17/2008 Label
ATLANTIC
Award Description
GOLD Format
SINGLE Category
SOLO Type
DI
Artist
FIASCO, LUPE Title
SUPERSTAR Certification Date
09/17/2008 Label
ATLANTIC
Award Description
PLATINUM Format
SINGLE Category
SOLO Type
DI

October 12, 2008 6:54 PM
 

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October 12, 2008 7:02 PM
 

tanSOLDIER said:

I be fucking with Lupe; that's my nigga.

I've got mixed feelings on him throwin' in the towel. While I want him to keep making that good music, I also wouldn't mind him going out at his best -that's iconic shit.
October 12, 2008 7:14 PM
 

HipHop_StateOfMind said:

The unfortunate truth is that there is no place for real Hip Hop in the mainstream...Bubble gum rap has taken over to the point that niggas can't recognize good music anymore...Why should Lupe stay around?!?!? He has arguably one of the best albums of the year yet he gets outsold by Lil Wayne who's album was average at best...I love Lupe's music and would hate to see dude retire but I can understand why he feels unappreciated... I think it's the state of Hip Hop that's driving Lupe away tho...Shit is so corny nowadays, niggas don't wanna be associated with it at all...The shit that's acceptable in Hip Hop nowadays is crazy...Niggas need to get familiar wit Drake...Dude been doin' his thing for a minute...
October 12, 2008 9:02 PM
 

MRGODBYROAD said:

GRIND TIME RAP GANG..........BANG! BANG! BANG!!
October 12, 2008 10:40 PM
 

Ty-BOoGie said:

@ Odeisel

You sound like a Hater.
October 13, 2008 3:12 AM
 

HeirJordan said:

Lupe isn't going anywhere. He might retire from his solo career, but he's working on Child Rebel Soldiers, a group with him, Kanye, and Pharrell. Gonna be dope when they get going.
October 13, 2008 9:10 AM
 

mu$h da great said:

1 more to go l-u-p   end........ hate to see him hang it up but what rapper has actually gracefully bowed out on top of there game? many have tried but don't recall any who actually have. whatever he decides I wish that nigga the best.

that killer mike "can you hear me" goes hard, I didn't even mind the autotuned up chorus on there cause the song was so live. it was a little more subtle than on some tracks.


I actually was a fan of autotune till everybody started using it as of late. after  roger & zapp, you would here   a few people here & there but t-pain  ressurected it.  it was cool cause he brought it back, that was kinda was like his signature.  ... but now you got everybody & there mama doing it just because. its overkill & un neccessary in some cases. a lot of these mufuckers don't even sound right with it. t-pain went back to rappin on these niggas lol. its just entirely to many niggas making tracks with that shit now.
October 13, 2008 9:17 AM
 

odeisel said:

hater of autotune? most definitely. Other than that I don't hate on no rapper.  Either you're good or you aren't and I'm not grading on a curve for no emcee, whether his generation sucks or he used to be dope or any other factor. The fans and their laziness is a big part of why rappers are getting away with the garbage they have been getting away with.
October 13, 2008 10:50 AM
 

theillseed said:

i like gunz a lot. i hope he's not losing focus.  def want him to win...
October 13, 2008 11:43 AM
 

Motor.Maxx said:

I hope you don't take this offensive, but who are you to say that using the vocoder or autotune is WACK? I understand thats your opinion and you've got a lot under your belt to make this type of assumption. I can agree that your not the first person to make this comment, but at the end of the day, isn't good music...good music (autotune or not)?
October 13, 2008 11:48 AM
 

The Mexican said:

I have always liked the voice effect shit.  I do agree that it has gotten out of hand though.  Not every artist sounds good with that over their voice but some do.  I think you have to have the righ kind of swag to pull it off.  T-pain is killing it on the hooks. They are fast funky and have a great flow to them.  Lil Wayne sounds like a dying rat with it though.  There needs to be an Auto Tunes/Vocodor, or what have you, approval committey for them.

I hope Lupe never ever retires.  He's too talented and young to do that, but he isn't selling like he should.  His label isn't puting the right singles out for the radio.  I think he should go irndy with it and do his own thing like Ice Cube.

That Y.B. joint is just ok.  The dude with him at the end of the video talking's name is J-Diggs.  He is one of the best in the game right now, in my opinion.  He spits nothing but the truth.  Did 10 years in the feds for robbing banks with Mac Dre.

Killer Mike is the truth.  I just got his new album and 2 others in the mail for subscribing to Murder Dog Magazine (best hip hop mag. out there, but it does have a lot of gramatical errors).
October 13, 2008 11:53 AM
 

odeisel said:

@ motor.maxx

I'm not offended at all homie.  I got a platform so I use it.  you got your blog you got your barbershop you got your porch.  I just happen to have a bigger platform.  You're free to disagree or agree however you like. I don't tell you what to like. i tell you what do and don't but I think I'm fairly objective about it.

I've seen many cycles in this music.  my frame of reference is larger than many, so my opinions may have a different slant form someone who got in with illmatic or who got in with the  Kool Herc.  but i think my range is solid enough to give an informed opinion.  this shit gets over 10,000 hits on a day when no one is home or they are drunk watching football. Somebody gives a shit or at least wants to hear what I pick.

as far as the good music comment, peanut butter and jelly sandwiches are cool when you're a kid, or even now.  but if you just eat that you will get sick and develop issues because it's not enough nutrition on its own.  So If everybody is autotunin and nobody is plug tuning sooner or later that imbalance is going to topple over.  I believe we passed that point.
October 13, 2008 12:18 PM
 

madnessbeats said:

y.b. of the pillionaires... i fuck with it ... mostly 'cause i fuck with thizz nation allday.... MAC DRE R.I.P.
October 13, 2008 3:52 PM
 

Columbus_Fynest said:

Personally, I lose my mind everytime I hear autotuned rappers.  It's kinda silly to me.... but whatever.

I'm a fan of Cory Gunz too... but on that song, his voice sounded like Yung Berg's... who was trying his hardest to sound like Wayne...

As far as Lupe retiring... Rapper's don't retire.  They either die or fall off.  Everyone knows this.  Why quit something that you love and is in your heart?
October 13, 2008 5:18 PM
 

Killuminati 187 said:

I don't WANT him to....but Lupe NEEDS to retire to make mothafuckaz APPRECIATE REAL HIP HOP.  Niggaz don't know what the fuck they have until it's taken away from them!  So go head my nigga, call it quits and make these mothafuckaz beg you to come back.  

Niggaz would rather buy an entire album with a so called "rapper" SINGING on AUTOTUNE throughout the entire thing rather than listen to Lupe, that's proof that the Hip Hop Community has taken Lupe for GRANTED.
October 13, 2008 5:29 PM
 

acemoney009 said:

much as i like lupe...i'm sick of dudes saying that they're retiring. it's music, if you're retiring do like the cats back in the day did, just wait for us to realize one day u ain't making albums no more. niggas be on the prowl for that publicity
October 13, 2008 7:20 PM
 

FlashyLife said:

If Lupe decides to retire it's gonna be one of the most disappointing things to happen to hip-hop in a while. It's sad that an emcee with a message doesn't get the proper spins and sales. I know I bought both Cd's on the release dates and I have every mixtape(concert at Vanderbilt university on the 23rd, and I'm there). The kid's on another level and he doesn't have many neighbors. He's definitely the last of a dying breed. The game needs Lupe like America needs Obama! F&F up!
October 13, 2008 10:04 PM
 

SPATE Magazine All Day said:

Thats whats up. Jay is a beast

SPATE MAGAZINE WAS HERE
http://www.spatemag.com
October 14, 2008 12:03 AM
 

unknown2 said:

odeisel said:

lay off the caps ti ti


lmao
October 14, 2008 2:02 AM
 

hasheesh said:

Lupe is gifted but if he retires, it's not the end of the world
October 14, 2008 2:06 AM
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