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Fans Are the New Record Labels

Monday, July 27, 2009 11:00 AM | 49 comments
By Tolu Olorunda
“Slave to a label but I own my masters/

 Still get it poppin’ without artist and repertoire/”

—Pharoahe Monch, “Desire,” Desire, 2007.


Last week, LA Times Staff Writer Chris Lee revealed the details of Cash Money artist Drake’s blockbuster record deal. In addition to a $2 million advance payment, he “retains the publishing rights to his songs and cedes only around 25% of his music sales revenues to the label as a ‘distribution fee’.” Drake’s deal was unusual to say the least; more so at a time when recording contracts have taken a few steps up the draconian ladder, as CD sales bow before the internet age of legal and illegal downloading. 

 

But Drake’s popularity and, perhaps, patience steered him away from engaging in a rush-hour deal that could have hampered his future. For that, I give him credit.. A couple of weeks back, I expressed deep regret that the Canadian rapper seemed to have digressed from the socially responsible content his mixtape start (Room For Improvement, 2006) was littered with. While still holding those views, I was nonetheless proud to read that this emerging superstar had enough sense to demand full publishing rights—a booby trap record labels have historically set up to control the message and music of their maids (artists).


Unfortunately, Drake’s hard work might have been for naught.  


Cortez Bryant (Lil’ Wayne’s manager), who helped establish this deal, proudly announced that the “record company doesn’t have any ownership of Drake.” It doesn’t “have participation on profits. They don’t have ownership of his masters. We control his entire career. Those deals don’t happen anymore.” And they don’t have to. 


Yes, things have changed. Yes, the four major record labels—Universal Music Group, Warner Music Group, EMI, and Sony BMG—have suffered a sharp decline in record sales the last decade. Yes, label bosses aren’t as confident as they used to be. But that hardly guarantees that the music being produced and packaged for an international audience will witness a dramatic shift in course anytime soon. 


The Misogyny, Minstrelsy, and Materialism contained in most popular radio and TV hits is unlikely to give way to socially constructive music for one specific reason: Fans. Are. The. New. Record. Labels. 


Who needs middle-age White men in suits lecturing you about the music young Black, Latino, and suburban White kids want to listen to, when the fans themselves have chosen Soulja Boy over Slick Rick, Lil’ Wayne over Lupe Fiasco, and T-Pain over Talib Kweli? The implications are obvious. 


Gone are the days when record labels ruled with an iron fist, dictating to artists their agendas and what kind of music was to meet it. As Canibus once rapped, “them days is gone.” In these times, the fans, by-and-large, decide what they want to hear on the radio and watch on TV. Whether they take full responsibility for this reality or not doesn’t deter it: With fans downloading Drake’s latest chart-topping single, “Best I Ever Had,” over 600,000 times in one month, it shouldn’t surprise anyone when radio stations and TV stations—do the math—play it endlessly on their airwaves.    


Though I believe record labels played a great part in enforcing upon innocent listeners crude lyrical content, I also think the fans must be held accountable for the artists they’ve supported this past decade. By no means does this exonerate record label executives, whose fingerprints are printed all over the evidence.   


“Industry rule #4080/

Record company people are shady/”


Through the power of suggestion, the label bosses, in conjunction with radio and TV outlets, shifted the social consciousness of Hip-Hop in less than 10 years. They made sure that ‘90s luminaries like Public Enemy, KRS-One, Monie Love, A Tribe Called Quest, and Queen Latifah were completely shut out of the roster that burst forth in the new millennium, rendering them nearly arcane in this volatile age. So, yes, I fault the labels, too. But the fans aren’t entirely inculpable, either. And I can prove it.   


No one can put my contention in more candid terms than Atlanta rapper Soulja Boy. In a radio interview earlier this year, Soulja Boy commented on the disappointingly low sales of his sophomore release, iSouljaBoyTellem, which sold 46, 000 copies its first week, compared to his debut album’s: 117, 262 copies. 


According to him, because on his second release he “went more in-depth, and tried to step my game up, come with the lyrics, go in on deeper topics, talk about life, and what it’s like being a celebrity” (no kidding!), the fans who had catapulted him to international fame in 2007 couldn’t comprehend the content. “Nobody wanted to really hear that,” he said. The lesson learned is that successful rappers “gotta rap about what the people wanna hear, per say.” And that magical element? “Nothing.” (I’m not making this up!) souljaboytellem.com, his official debut, “went platinum” because “I wasn’t talking about nothing.”  


The easy thing to do is laugh off Soulja Boy as a confused adolescent who lacks the intellectual competence to make an informed judgment about marketing and the recording industry; but that would miss the point. To a great, and scary, degree, he’s right. Many who had celebrated the sexual escapades he sang (not rapped) about on “Crank Dat” had a hard time being preached to about the life of a celebrity on his second album. And, whether we like it or not, in their world such radical switch is comparable to going from Bow Wow to Black Thought. 


Even with this reality, certain artists including Soulja Boy, Rich Boy, and The Clipse are pledging responsibility in their career—from here onward.


Late last year, Soulja Boy released a taped apology to fans and parents for some of the derogatory content his music was associated with in the past. “Over the past few months, I’ve had a chance to meet a lot of my fans face-to-face and it made me realize that I got a large fan base of kids that look up to me,” he said. “I have a greater responsibility to the kids that want to be like Soulja Boy. I need to set a positive example for them.”


His heartfelt and unforced words included commitments I never imagined possible—coming from a rapper bound by certain constraints in his contract: “I wouldn’t say a role model because I think parents or a guardian should be a kid’s main role model; but, from now on, I’m going to make sure that every kid that looks up to me will get a positive image that the kids and parents can trust.” 


But a few questions must be asked: Do those kids prefer positivity over negativity—as documented in the declining sales of his second album? Will the same kids who spent hours learning the “Crank Dat dance” check for a more lyrical and less theatrical Soulja Boy? Are the very parents themselves aware that the problem might not be the artists anymore, but rather the kids they think they know well?  


Time will tell.


Alabama rapper Rich Boy, infamous for his 2007 hit single “Throw Some D’s,” recently reflected on an incident he promises will ensure “more substance” on his upcoming album. In an interview with Vibe Magazine, he explained:


I was riding through this project called Roger Wiliams, and this kid had asked me, ‘Why you rap about crack so much, Richy?’ And it just messed my head up to the point where I couldn’t get mad at the little cat. I was just like, I could tell he seen something real dealing with crack. So I was just like, Man, for the kids like that, I’d rather change my topic. If I know kids like that are listening to me. … I’m going to keep it real and rap about the sh** I’ve seen, but I’m not going to glorify it. … [T]he kids make me feel responsible. I didn’t ever feel responsible until a kid actually asked me myself. I heard it from the horse’s mouth, you know what I mean?


Certainly. I know what you mean. But the fight is far from over, comrade Richy.


How many fans are like the little kid who stepped up to Rich Boy, disgusted with commercial rap’s celebration of the crack epidemic? How many other fans, presented with the same opportunity, instead ran out for an autograph or photo-op? How many older fans commended Rich Boy—on blogs, forums, sites, etc.—for yelling frantically on his successful single: “Throw some D’s on that bitch?”   

 

How many? Enough to keep his head above the waters his music might have left many drowning in, prior to his date with fate that day in Roger Williams projects.


Malice, 1/2th of rap duo The Clipse, recently expressed similar concerns in a Vlog. Currently, “there’s a lot of foolishness in Hip-Hop,” he said, and his crew, renowned for their witty street tales, has “been a part of the problem.” He also touched on the exaggerations a studio booth can demand from certain artists, and how he has, at times, fallen victim to it: “I guess, basically, what I’m saying is: when I get in that booth and I start recording I can drive as many Bentleys as I want. I can hop on as many G5’s or drop as many tops as I want.” To his fans, 25 and younger, the message was direct: “… you got to learn to separate the real from the fake.”


In the latest installment of his Vlog series, titled “Young Ni**a This Is You,” Malice crafts an all-too-familiar narrative of a young, ambitious drug dealer who drops the powder for the pen, but fails to accomplish anything substantive in the long run.  (“And the Crack-Rap—leave that to me/ ‘Cause even Rap ain’t what it’s cracked up to be/.”)


But how many young Ni**as “want to hear that”? How many young Ni**as would actually take the time to contemplate the severity of Malice’s warnings? How many young Ni**as wouldn’t simply move on to the next rapper who’s willing to lie to them about how much fun and rewarding the dope deathstyle is?


How many? Enough to extinguish a whole generation of bright young people.   

 

What these rappers are doing should be commended by those who truly care about the future Hip-Hop is inching closer to—drug-driven, crime-centered, fad-focused music. But if the very people whose ear-drums we’re fighting to protect appear unconcerned with the music record labels are directing their way, at what point do we draw the line, forcing them to fend for themselves? 


 Tolu Olorunda is a cultural critic and a Columnist for BlackCommentator.com. He can be reached at Tolu.Olorunda@gmail.com.



Comments

 

ToneofTERRAZONA~BWS said:

1ST !?!?!


Good Morning Hip-Hop World
July 27, 2009 11:13 AM
 

Jumpstreet said:


Thats wtf ive been saying

muthafuckas love to blame white ppl and record companies and radio stations when its THEM who be acting just like this and niggas everywhere


the same niggas who tries to kick that "real Hip-Hop" shit be actin just like that too

and its not a generation nor a "kid" thing...alot of grown ass bums be the same way more than u think
July 27, 2009 11:22 AM
 

Jumpstreet said:



Just use the IC as an example


whenever someone makes a thought provokin thread - theres like 5 responses


but then when a nigga come with a shock thread like "gucci mane >>> nas" u have a 20 page thread




reality is: muthafuckas just wanna escape their reality...hence why so many niggas love to know about "who's real/fake" or how much so and so sold drugs and all that cuz its entertainment for them cuz they escapin their reality...

they mightve seen that shit happen but never lived that life themselves...so mix that shit with the fact that many mfs are rebelious....then what do u have?
July 27, 2009 11:26 AM
 

HOT97 said:

HOT97 SAYS:Thats what i said Ions ago....I love it
July 27, 2009 11:28 AM
 

CRANSTONJ said:

you only get once chance to make a first impression....your introduction to the game is what most fans will expect from you for your career...if an actress appears in her first movie topless then guess what chance are she's going to be type casted for similar roles in the  future...its sucks for soulja boy because he is a young kid and he will mature with time as he already has demonstrated but people will always associate him with the clown that had a superman dance that "ruined hip hop"....which i dont agree with...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxUMaL5yTA0
July 27, 2009 11:34 AM
 

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July 27, 2009 11:43 AM
 

djcbz said:

VERY TRUE!
The best rappers on the planet will never make as much money or get the fame as a wack one talking a bunch of childish bull!
Just like 5 star dine in's will never be able to fuck with that Mcdonald's money!!!!!!!!!!!!
We live in a fast food world!
Just like there will always be more out of shape people than in shape people!
That is why i never wanted to be a rapper or singer!

haha!!!!!!!!!
July 27, 2009 11:53 AM
 

CRANSTONJ said:

the writing on the drake part throws me off...i think its a typo on the part where the cash money guy is commenting...."we control his entire career"...is that supposed to be he instead of we????http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxUMaL5yTA0
July 27, 2009 11:54 AM
 

KAiN_P3RRY said:

To many kidz listening to rap nowadays
July 27, 2009 11:56 AM
 

Above All said:

Ok....

Drake got a 2 million dollar advance right????

Sounds great but the key word is ADVANCE....

tell he pays back that 2 million that label OWNS him....

His deal might be more lucrative then the average these days but if the money coming back dont add up hes still fucked......

maybe more then say a artist like joe budden who has no advance..minimal budget and sells 18k.......

if drake sales are even 200k he is wayyyyyyyy in the red......

he better be shootin for that platinum disc....
July 27, 2009 11:58 AM
 

dc-bws said:

Very true, some of these artists sell themselves off to these major record labels and they have hidden agendas...they use the artists image to promote their own bad messages and make it seem popular for all the kids to see...I mean I was looking at my younger siblings Beyonce I am Sasha Fierce album and some of the pictures in the leaflet are absolutely shocking. There is 1 in particular showing her wearing an upside down triangle with a goats head looking similar to a pentagram...and I know Beyonce is a Christian ! I can name so many but the point is these record labels are falling apart because they have played the oldest trick in the book on these artists for so long and now that they have their own lanes (digital record sales) they can go independent. Drakes record deal on the other hand seems pretty damn good...

Get at me
July 27, 2009 12:03 PM
 

dc-bws said:

Very true, some of these artists sell themselves off to these major record labels and they have hidden agendas...they use the artists image to promote their own bad messages and make it seem popular for all the kids to see...I mean I was looking at my younger siblings Beyonce I am Sasha Fierce album and some of the pictures in the leaflet are absolutely shocking. There is 1 in particular showing her wearing an upside down triangle with a goats head looking similar to a pentagram...and I know Beyonce is a Christian ! I can name so many but the point is these record labels are falling apart because they have played the oldest trick in the book on these artists for so long and now that they have their own lanes (digital record sales) they can go independent. Drakes record deal on the other hand seems pretty damn good...

Get at me
July 27, 2009 12:03 PM
 

Above All said:

another thing about this article....

Its not that the fans are the new labels....

MOST FANS...are sheep..they like what they are told to like...

if they see tpain everyday on 106 and park...then turn on their radio and hear him then they think "oh this is the hott shit, this is what im suppose to listen to...

"THIS IS WHAT IS HOTT"


Just like those years where DMX was everywhere...Kids were like i like DMX.....

Its like putting big and pac in top 5's..they do it cuz they heard someone else say thats what it is.....

you think fans actually pick the songs on these top 8 at 8 radio countdowns across the country?? you think they pick the vids on 106???

you think Drake is getting all this play off a mixtape song without help from the 2million dollar deal?????

open your eyes.....like the BAWSE says "Its deeper than rapp"

July 27, 2009 12:07 PM
 

Rig said:

Whatz Wrong wit people?
July 27, 2009 12:07 PM
 

whobetta said:

I could really care less about the content of popular music. I care more about what my congressmen,mayor, president are talking about because they affect policies and legislation. None of people listed in the article are political scientists. I want entertainment not someone in every song on their political soap box. I could careless if soulja boy is pro life or pro choice. Keep entertainment entertaining  
July 27, 2009 12:13 PM
 

YoungG757NGE said:

This is a very good article and it's unfortunate that the theme prolly won't resonate with alot of people because they need that false reality like duke above me said. It's crazy because this shit called Hip Hop I once loved so much is declinin as far as quality and I'm part of the problem my damn self. I rap about guns, drugs, hustlin, killin, bitches, hoes, smokin, drinkin and all the other negative shit. Not cuz it's the thing to do but it's cuz thats my reality. It may seem exciting to the listener but from the outside lookin in to someone who's never experienced it would definitely come off as glorification even tho thats not my intention. On the flipside I have content that explains y I'm the way I am and talkin about the downs as well as the ups of that lifestyle, but those are usually the songs people skip. I don't know if it's cuz thats what people have ben forcefed or if they just want to hear that negative shit. I'm not gon change who I am or what I do but I'm definitely workin on growin as an artist as well as a person and if more of us did that it would reflect in the music. I aint nobody's role model and it's not my responsibility to set an example for anyone thats on the parents. Rap or any other type of music is not to blame for any of today's issues it's the people that allow the kids to hear the songs and see the images thats the problem. Whose to say what's right or wrong but the individual. Holla at ya nigga
July 27, 2009 12:23 PM
 

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July 27, 2009 12:33 PM
 

TheHIPHOPGODS said:

Finally some light...We come from BDP, PE, and the real hiphop era. Always supported groups like Dead Prez, Talib Kweli. No money in having a conscience and knowledge of self. I saw PE bring an era of Africa to hiphop  only to be replaced by NWA with guns. BUT even NWA had more of a political conscience than the Drakes and Lil Waynes of today. I feel like Drake is grossly overrated because we have had to listen to so much trash for so long. When I read this article I think of an artist named Mamas Gunz that I heard on a CD from a friend of mine. Back in 2006 people were hating on her for saying industry rappers are rapping about how much more money they have than us, and we paid them, Songs about fake gangsters on records rappin about the place she really lived etc. We Went to her site recently and she was still kicking that same indie message, and she has a young hardcore following. These newer groups have gone back to the basics of real hiphop. KRS-1 is still kicking the message to the people hard as well. Andre 3000 never fails to tell the truth, and what about Jay-Z with D.O.A?, That was a step in the right direction, wasnt it? Dudes like T-Pain and Rick Ross are determined to embarrass black rappers all over the world, while Ricky brags about standing on a mountain of crack. People are still in defense of these dudes though! Guys that are commenting above me.  Overall there is a new era of MC's who have been aware of all of  this for years, the change isnt coming, its here. Been around hiphop since 1976 and have advice for all you rappers: Its not the money or the image, Its the legacy and reputation that will be most important in the end. Vanilla Ice was once GOD.
July 27, 2009 12:39 PM
 

MrsShyFlyFreaky said:

Its become hard for me to support and care about the careers of these new up and coming artist. Hip Hop has not been the same for years and til  these artist  get back to the true essence of what hip hop  they will never experience true success... For real musi check out.......
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July 27, 2009 12:41 PM
 

CRANSTONJ said:

radio and tv are nonthing more than the system attempting to keep us in the dark......they play all this swag, sex, drugs and clothing music because thats all they ever want us to be about....(party animals with no focus) they will never put anything in mass media that will feed you knowldege and better you as a young adult coming up in the world...they tell you gucci is what you should strive to be and we cosign him....i agree that noone wants to hear a preacher 24/7 on the radio...so why do i have to hear shake your booty do all day....there is no balance and that is ruining this young generation who cant hear p.e., krs one, tribe or de la soul on the radio..or see them on 106 and park..there is no alternative..and that is not a good look....you think the world is jacked up now..wait until we see the lasting effects of this 10-15 years down the road....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxUMaL5yTA0
July 27, 2009 1:16 PM
 

il nonno said:

At what point do we begin to make a distinction between music and reality? Are people so dumb that they cannot see the difference? Am I supposed to go around kicking people just because I've just watched Jet Li in  a kungfu flick? How come Celine Dion and all those other pop artists don't get held up to the same standards as rap artists? At the end of the day, its just music, even though I agree to your points to some degree.
July 27, 2009 1:43 PM
 

CRANSTONJ said:

@ il nonno its just music but influences weak minded people everyday and that's were it becomes dangerous to flood the market with one type of message....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxUMaL5yTA0
July 27, 2009 1:52 PM
 

SouthernFried said:

Maybe im not living in the same world yall "hip hop nazis" live in.

The niggaz i grew up listening to is still making dope ass music today.

kast,ugk,face,nas,jay-z,roots,az,common,ball&g,devin, the wu

I mean yall act like em just didnt drop an album like jada just didnt drop an album, like tip , luda, killer mike i guess these niggaz on hiatus huh?

I guess because Im at work all day or around niggaz that provide for their families my opinion is different.

I didnt know that hip hop was at such a vulnerable state that a lil boy who wrote a song produced it at the age of 14 or 15 could stop grown ass men from getting money.

the shit I listened to never got that much media play and niggaz was still doing platinum and gold. I dont hear quik bitchin about the radio not playin his collective joint wit kurrupt.

Im for the advancement of black people.  i would rather laugh at these cats on tv then read about them in the newspaper.

niggasz aint sellin as much because we in a recession and these labels doin whatever they have to do to stay in the black.

yall niggaz need to start  being responsible for your own actions and stop blaming someone else for your short comings.

be easy and get money black people
July 27, 2009 2:15 PM
 

D.P. of Dunamis Records said:

Given the initial state that man is in, the negative thoughts, words and suggestions feel good physically.  The positive/life bearing things are like exercise, good for you but not always good to your tastes.

It boils down to conditioning.  YOU MUST CONDITION YOURSELF TO EMBRACE THE GOOD.  Most people don’t want to be healthy cuz most don’t really want to live period.  Some don’t want to live because they have a fear of getting "old" which is inevitable OR they just don’t have the gift of projection (seeing 5 - 10 years down the line/let alone eternally).  

SPIRITIUAL TRUTHS HAVE PHYSICAL PARALLEL TRUTHS TO HELP US COMPREHEND THEM:  Basic universal concept of sowing and reaping (not karma);

eat too much sodium and fatty foods and eventually you end up with hyper-tension and high cholesterol which in tern = death.  The concept rings true with the other inlets we use for digestion i.e. eyes, ears.

Don’t get me wrong I definitely understand the desire for entertainment, but it becomes like a drug to sedate you from the reality that is ever present all around us "death is inevitable"

Bottom line, you gotta want to live, if not your just breathing to death!

now the next question is "what is life?"
July 27, 2009 3:12 PM
 

ALLSWELL3-22-12 said:

Southern fried and il nonna I agree with yaw 100%

Niggas bitch and moan about soulja boy and all the young niggas from the south is killin hip hop well hell go buy a pharoah monch or krs one album and even out the playing field.  And also arnold, stallone, wes craven and the rest of the white peckerwoods can kill as many people as they want in a movie and it's no big deal, a rapper talks about the same shit and some how they are bringing down the whole race.  When in reality it's single parent families, poor education etc.....like southerfried said I'd rather see a nigga talking about it in a video whether it be true or false then see him on the 5oclock news in cuffs
July 27, 2009 3:13 PM
 

tomm718 said:

Music & entertainment co-exist with one another? Music can also express your feelings, beliefs & every other emotion known to man on how an individual is feeling at that present time. The substance in our music of when we first start doing the music for the love of it gets lost right around the time we sign on the dotted line to get any source of revenue just so we can have a better life. Now, there is nothing wrong with getting paid to do what you love but music is what it is, MUSIC.

If people in todays day & age are so weak minded, bambozzled, inferior, & have low self-esteem & have to listen to souja boy, a rich boy, or a lil wayne just to have clarity in their life, then that shit is on them. Children in this day don't need music or television to help them get a better understanding on how life should be, thats up to the parents & guardians that are raising them.

Granted, these entertainers are still & in some aspects do need to be accountable for certain actions that they might say or do, but lets be real people, at the end of the day, souja boy & jesus himself so lets stop acting like the musicians/entertainers are running the world.
July 27, 2009 3:25 PM
 

tomm718 said:

An another thing, why is it ok for some ppl (mainly white people) can make movies & have morning talk shows about violence & have a whole bunch of people getting killed by Arnold, Stallone, Harrison Ford or any other white actor can appear to do & made to be depicted as heros. However, Denzel does Training Day, gets an Oscar for that role he played in, an everyone seems to be happy about it. Just mind boggling to mean. Like i said before, we can blame all the entertainers, musicians, rappers, actors, companies & what not, but we're all contributing to the bullshit cause. Hell i know i have so i can't say that i'm a saint my damn self. I think we all just need to make a stance thats all.
July 27, 2009 3:29 PM
 

MUTHADON said:

HIP-HOP SALES HAVE SHOWED A DRASTIC DECLINE SINCE THE EARLY 2000'S BECAUSE THESE ARTIST JUST GOT LAZY AND SAID FUCK IT!!!!!!THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THIS BULLSHIT THAT WE'VE BEEN FORCED TO HEAR THESE PAST YEARS,MAN I'VE WENT 11 YEARS WITHOUT A DEAL AND REGARDLESS TO WHAT ANYBODY SAYS I'M TOO (ILL) WITH THIS MUSIC TO NOT HAVE A DEAL HOWEVER I  DON'T  GET UPSET BECAUSE THERE IS A WAY TO WORK AROUND THINGS............I DON'T AGREE WITH THE WRITER OF THIS COLUMN WHEN HE SAY'S THAT THE FANS ARE THE NEW LABELS,THE FANS JUST DICTATES WHO EATS AND WHO GOES TO BED HUNGRY EVERY NIGHT.........NOW IF THE LABELS DON'T HAVE A CLUE ON WHO'S GOING TO GET THE BEST REACTION WITH THE FANS THAN YOU'RE LEFT WITH A BUSINESS THAT'S RUNNING ON EMPTY GAMBLING THERE LAST INVESTMENTS ON ARTIST THAT'S GOING TO GET SHELVED IN ONE YEAR BECAUSE THE INDUSTRY IS REALLY FUCKED UP RIGHT NOW "MAN I TELL YOU"........NOW BACK IN 1998 WHEN "D.M.X"(IT'S DARK AND HELL IS HOT) CAME OUT YOU COULD EASILY HAVE BLAMED THE SOFT SHIT FOR FUCKING UP THE GAME,HE BROUGHT THAT GUTTER MUSIC BACK TO THE MIX.............AND YES IN 2003 I WON'T LIE,I'M ONLY SAYING THIS ONE TIME AND ONE TIME ONLY BUT WHETHER IF YOU AGREE WITH ME OR NOT "FIFTY CENT"(GET RICH OR DIE TRYING) WAS THE  REASON WHY WE OVERCAME THE SOFT SHIT FOR A SECOND TIME...........NOW THIS NEW  RECESSION THAT HIP-HOP IS SUFFERING NOW IS BLAMED ON THE ARTIST THEMSELVES BECAUSE AGAIN YA RAPPERS JUST GOT LAZY....I CAN'T REMEMBER THE LAST TIME I BROUGHT A CD...........NOW YOU KNOW IT'S FUCKED UP WHEN YOU GO BUY A BLANK CD ,GO HOME AND DOWNLOAD THE ALBUM OF CHOICE  ON THE BLANK,LISTEN TO THE MUSIC & STILL FEEL LIKE YOU'VE BEEN RIPPED OF.........I MEAN YOU COULD HAVE TOOK THAT DOLLAR THAT YOU BROUGHT  THAT BLANK CD WITH AND BROUGHT TWO LOOSE CIGARETTE'S OR A BLUNT................................              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkfv7kGofP4                                           http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jkfv7kGofP4
July 27, 2009 3:47 PM
 

EST said:

HOT97 said:
HOT97 SAYS:Thats what i said Ions ago....I love it
July 27, 2009 11:28 AM

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Umm sweetie, an ion is a charged atom so I think you mean eons but I get what you're saying.

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Cosign Tolu once again you hit the nail on the head. Excellent piece.
July 27, 2009 3:53 PM
 

poe said:

good article.
July 27, 2009 4:36 PM
 

kilakalikush said:

yea these labels be trynna fool ppl thinkin these rappers are so paid an so powerful but truth be told all dat shit ethier rented or leased an da labels are winnin bcuz dey make thier artist go out in the public an act out  sterotypes an act coon'd out so the kids would think dats cool an try in live that lifestyle ex: lil wayne could be better with his talent but tha labels want that water down foolish shit.... tha labels trynna dumb down hip hop so it would die slow
July 27, 2009 5:29 PM
 

Hoeyuno said:

FUCK THE RECORD LABEL.....VIVA LA REVOLUTION........
July 27, 2009 5:53 PM
 

ChynahDoll said:

IN THE PAST, IT WAS ALOT MORE DIFFICULT TO BE A SUCCESSFUL INDEPENDENT ARTIST THESE DAYS, THERE ARE MANY MORE WAYS AND AVENUES TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
July 27, 2009 8:18 PM
 

ChynahDoll said:

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July 27, 2009 8:46 PM
 

ChynahDoll said:

BLESSED
July 27, 2009 9:56 PM
 

Frizzodetroit said:

Great article.
July 27, 2009 10:09 PM
 

Roamn said:

Sales declined because we don't use CD's and Vinyl as much anymore... ipod/serato anyone? The way to survive is to be marketable and have a brand.
Popular music isn't about music, it's about image. It's a marketing world. And you need to be marketed like a new McDonalds burger, with all the extra sauces, cheese and toys.
If you want to see how COMMERCIAL Hiphop will be in 10years, look at the Jpop scene in Japan, COMMERCIAL Hiphop will be like that.
Underground is underground for a reason. It's not as COMMERCIALLY viable and pulls at niche strings, rather than the masses.
Hiphop (minus the commercial... in caps lol) is good right now, from where I'm sitting. We got some heavy artists making some amazing music, but I cannot build the rapport I had for Pac, with a new artist. Back in those days there were two camps and a handful of artists making music I could vibe with. These days there's a new marketing campaign with a new product (artist) with one hot song every other day.
You don't get the same familiarity as we had in the past, but at the same time, you see too much of them. You see them blogging from home, in the tabloids, sextapes etc etc etc... the mysterious aura of celebrity is lost. The "idol" status has diminished.
It's not Hiphop or entertainment that is the problem, it's definately the consumer that dictates what kind of music will be on the next album/movie/tshirt - just check the MJ market right now.... now that you finally appreciate how awesome he actually was.
July 27, 2009 11:51 PM
 

liquidswords95 said:

Whateva it's just music.... It's entertainment people!!!!! It's up to the parents to raise their kids; not rappers. Also it's a variety of hip hop out there. You don't have to listen to the radio joints.... You can get that underground hip hop too.
July 28, 2009 12:26 AM
 

Way2Kool said:

I mean I was looking at my younger siblings Beyonce I am Sasha Fierce album and some of the pictures in the leaflet are absolutely shocking. There is 1 in particular showing her wearing an upside down triangle with a goats head looking similar to a pentagram...and I know Beyonce is a Christian


@dc-bws, that's symbolism to the fullest.  Thanks for that info.  
July 28, 2009 2:51 AM
 

IronHorse said:

Hip hop music is in a "box" now...just like pop music/culture was intended to be...call it urban pop if you will...
rap music was treated like a fad at 1st.
it wasnt taken seriously cause there was no BIG $ yet.
MC's would drop albums and you copped it,no big deal, no pressure, no industry standard, no album sales, no #'s facts & figures yet ...yeah there were majors and indies but nobody KNEW what to do with hip hop yet, they just did it...
Thats why the music felt so special cause it was still raw and honest...untouched...
The day that rap music/ the hip hop culture generated BIG $
the hip hop culture became BIG BUISNESS, then everything got exploited.
You know your in a box when some...company...can emulate particular sounds you program your sampler with and hit it dead on without your opinion!!
think about it; EVERY piece of production software you purchase(producers) has GENERIC eastcoast, westcoast, dirty south and/or 808 kits with patterns and sounds already built in, you do nothing!!Half of the presets are sounds youve heard some other guy use before!! your "sound" is complete,!! This is how you get 5 songs in rotation that ALL sound exactly alike!! no? look at all the songs popping up now with the same drums & pattern as"a milli"... same pattern and everything...auto-tune, the whole dirty south sound...but who cares...right?
The pop crowd doesnt care where hip hop was created, they dont care about culture...they dont care that you can flip a sample, where you got your drums from...they dont care about anything that requires you to think, why? cause they dont HAVE to rely on hip hop...like we used to...
My generation actually LEARNED from listening to hip hop music...you could learn about yourself the newest slang and the newest dance step in 1 song...
the pop crowd just wants to keep the party going...
You can learn the ins & outs about gangs from documentarys & youtube clips now... back then you was up on spice 1, Ice T NWA etc or you had to be from cali or be gang bangin to really know about it...
life is so microwaved & at your disposal how could you care about some rapper? right? Your so spoiled. You get free music, disposable trends and artist, you dont have to really know anything cause you got the internet, you can make money easier than we could, college is nothing to this generation, wasnt always like that...why you think shows like different world/cosby show were so big in the 80's? if college was THIS accessable back then as it is now...who knows where we might be as a whole society right now...but nobody thinks about all that..."get money" right?...smh...
Those same pop folks who bought up all the glorified shit back then are either rappers themselves now or they make up all 800,000 + hits on these ignorant ass sites like worldstar and youtube and whatever else to watch niggas acting up! why listen when you can watch it cause its all entertainment,right? we'll when you sum it up to just being a horse & pony show you lose site of hip hop's purpose and the culture..cause you cant actually respect it like its a REAL culture...you dont know how too...cause its only entertainment...right? its like a dog chasing its own tail...

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July 28, 2009 2:59 AM
 

Fans Are the New Record Labels said:

July 28, 2009 7:01 AM
 

AkdmkJeanius said:


MOST FANS...are sheep..they like what they are told to like...

if they see tpain everyday on 106 and park...then turn on their radio and hear him then they think "oh this is the hott shit, this is what im suppose to listen to...

"THIS IS WHAT IS HOTT"


Just like those years where DMX was everywhere...Kids were like i like DMX.....

Its like putting big and pac in top 5's..they do it cuz they heard someone else say thats what it is.....

you think fans actually pick the songs on these top 8 at 8 radio countdowns across the country?? you think they pick the vids on 106???

you think Drake is getting all this play off a mixtape song without help from the 2million dollar deal?????

open your eyes.....like the BAWSE says "Its deeper than rapp"


^^^Yep, it's called programming!  It is DEEPER than rap!

 Now ask yourselves why these media outlets choose to shove more negativity down your throat than positive, thought-provoking, revolutionary content.



July 28, 2009 7:37 AM
 

Zone-3-beats said:

I agree with that shit 100%.. Its not tha artists fault for music goin down hill, its tha people buyin those albums. If you sit around all day listenin to tha radio sayin 'this is some bullshit' your not doin nothin but addressing a problem. Get up n go buy some real music, call in n request some real shit on tha radio. Tha only way we're ever gonna get tha music we loved back is if we support tha artists layin down that real shit. Tha record companies go with tha trends and what people respond to.. if muhfuckas would stand up n support tha good music we wouldn't be where we're at right now. Hip Hop aint dead it's just in a coma
July 28, 2009 9:20 AM
 

mainwun said:

this was a very good read. I've been say this for years. You can say all you want about the record labels and radio stations but if the fans aren't supportive neither will the industry!
what these n**gas want? http://mainwun.blogspot.com/
July 28, 2009 9:34 AM
 

Hoodgrown said:

@AkdmkJeanius said:
"Just like those years where DMX was everywhere...Kids were like i like DMX.....

Its like putting big and pac in top 5's..they do it cuz they heard someone else say thats what it is..... "

-----

Gotta disagree with you fam. DMX didn't become hot because some of the idiots comparing him to Pac. They tried the same thing with Ja-Rule... but anyone could see that the music was totally different.

DMX came at a time much like now... where bullshit flossing songs and dances were the rage.... and came with that hard ass New York street shit. Real niggas took to him to him automatically cause you could tell he was authentic. The type of dude to rob these wanna-be players.

The music was just hard... and honest. That's why DMX was successful... not because of what others said. The music spoke for itself.

As the drugs took over DMX's life the music suffered.... but shit I still bump the first two albums in my car. The shit is just hard. Even his love and club songs was just hard.

The game needs someone to "DMX" right now... because there's a lot more cats struggling in the streets on a day to day basis than there are "moving keys across seas".

DMX is the hoody with the scuffed up timberland type niggas. The type of niggas that other cats avoid when they see them outside the club. These cats nowadays are too concerned with being pretty. Hell, the dudes act like they're prettier than the damn girls nowadays. It's crazy...

ok.. enough with my ranting because i'm getting off topic...

basically my point was DMX's success was due to him being him... an original... not because someone said he was like Pac...


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July 28, 2009 10:12 AM
 

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July 28, 2009 11:43 AM
 

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July 28, 2009 1:02 PM
 

curtis75black said:

This was a nice read but that was always the case. Back in the days, we paid for our music constantly. We also had other outlets  that focuses on the music. We had The Box, Yo ! MTV, Rap City and early 106. We dictated who was hot by our purchases. If you don't vote, don't complain with the results. One thing that started to get rampid, was the these so called Hip Hop sites and magazines, choosing sides in fueds, not interviewing vets like they should, only fucking with the new jacks that put alot of thought in a young mind into thinking they aren't relevant anymore !! If you as a magazine constantly place rapper A on your cover, what do you expect the fans to think ? You are selling out for sponsers !! You interview a rapper that has nothing on his plate, nothing going on !! - come on now. Hip Hop is almost 4 decades deep, don't just cover the last 3 and expect to remain Hot and relevant !!  Give real reviews of all hip hop artists music, not just the ones you think fans wanna hear from.
August 3, 2009 6:25 AM
 

Editorial said:

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