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Jay-Z, Lil’ Wayne, and the Cost of Loyalty

Monday, November 02, 2009 1:30 PM | 66 comments
By Tolu Olorunda
Author’s Disclaimer: For those who read my columns weekly for its, as I’ve been told, “intellectual value,” this might not be for you:

“Never read the Qu’ran or Islamic scriptures/

Only Psalms I read was on the arms of my Ni**as/”


—Jay-Z, “Intro,” The Dynasty Roc La Familia, 2000.


Listening to Beanie Sigel excoriate his former (?) “Big Brother” last week couldn’t have put a wider smile on my face. Simply put, it’s about time. For those whose lives are forever buried under a rock, it all started last weekend when the AllHipHop rumor section reported Beanie Sigel had made certain unflattering advances—or allusions—toward Jay-Z at a Philly concert.  


Upon reading the rumors—which depended solely on accusations that Sigel had repeatedly declared on stage, “I run this town tonight”—I couldn’t but hang my head in shame for what, as I believed, Hip-Hop media had come to. I saw this as yet another validation of my lamentation a few months back that “[t]he present state of Hip-Hop media is regrettable. The days of intellectuals, cultural critics, and music scholars are all but over. Now begins an age of pseudo-journalists and half-witted bloggers who’ve convinced themselves that a column consists of 400 words and two paragraphs.” And that, “Everyone has a blog but not enough brains to match them.” But in less than 24 hours, further details surfaced, which told of Sigel being escorted by police officers from the venue—compliments of the Jigga man. As time advanced, it was becoming increasingly clear to some that the best, and worst, of this ordeal, was yet to come.    


Sure enough, a couple of days later Sigel dropped the much-anticipated diss record, “What You' Talkin’ ‘Bout (Average Cat),” implicitly revealing some salacious secrets about Jay-Z, the Roc-A-Fella dynasty demolition, and the Jigga man’s newfound corporate identity—which some of us have known, and written about, for a while.   


Sigel complained of indifference directed his way by Jay-Z while incarcerated—the many times he’s been locked up. He also threatened to expose some personal elements Jay-Z might want to keep secret (“I was the fly on the wall: sh** I witnessed/ I can say sh** that make B look at you different/”)—for as long as his reputation is valuable. The climax, however, seemed to be the recounting of a meeting held with HOVA, in which he pleaded to be released from his contract, but the man in the suit “bounced that tennis ball around your office for an hour, and went back and forth with me, and told me you ain’t want to let me go.” (Bounced a tennis ball? He learned that from the White folks, Beans!) Sigel says Jay-Z asked if he was cash-strapped, but he shot down any offers: He just wanted his freedom. Plus, 50 Cent was plotting a couple of power moves with him and Freeway—both stopped in their tracks shortly after.  


Why did Jay-Z find it so important to have Beanie around him? The reasons aren’t at all indecipherable—for all the street credibility lost these last few years (trust me: it matters to HOVA), to keep his most respected Colonel/Major General around, and, most importantly, to repudiate rampant rumors that he only cared about a few pet projects (Jay-Z, Jeezy, Rihanna) who would work the tracks for him.  


But in spite of it all, Sigel insists “Average Cat” isn’t a “diss record.” It’s also not “the green-light for everybody to start making a diss Jay-Z record.” Far from it. “This is me taking my brother in the yard for 5 minutes.”


Here’s some salient advice for HOVA: Run like the wind! Don’t attempt to battle Beans. And don’t send no lieutenant his way, either. If you want J. Cole’s career eviscerated before it begins, unleash him on Beans. Your best bet, it seems, might be making things up with Sigel. This is a guy who, even with all the bullsh** you’ve put him through, still believes loyalty comes first. You might want to humble thyself, and listen carefully to his concerns and/or demands.


Unfortunately, Jay-Z appears incapable of humility—as his first response was to accuse Sigel of squandering golden opportunities and of being ungrateful.

 

Those of us who’ve followed Beans for years were only left wondering what took so long. It was evident before long Beans would bust and spill—there’s only so much a man can take before breaking bounds of loyalty. And, in fact, that might have been the most loyal thing he did his whole relationship with Jay-Z—refusing anymore to take slugs for a man whose conscience is only as costly as the next business deal signed.

   

And it’s not just Beans. Dame, Calvin Klein, De-Haven, Jaz-O, Jim Jones, Peedi Peedi, Joe Budden, DMX, LL Cool J, and Teairra Marí (“I was shocked, I was sad … Jay didn’t call me himself”), all share similar views. C’mon, Jay-Z. They can’t be all wrong. Unless, of course, he sees this as some secret conspiracy to bring a Black man down!


The Jay-Z-Beanie Sigel controversy couldn’t have been more timely, as it coincides with reports that Lil’ Wayne, scheduled to be locked up for a year on July 2007 weapon possession charges, might have avoided sentencing if he refused to take the fall for the true owner of the guns. For all my quarrels with Lil’ Wayne, I respect his loyalty.   


Late January 2008, video surfaced of the 30-year-old rapper cussing out his entourage, hurling his jacket at his DJ, and leading the concert crowd in chants of “F**k You,” directed toward the men behind him. “I just want all the mutha***kas that [have] been with me, that ain’t gon ever be with me again, to know I did it for ya’ll,” he said, much to the school-girl-crowd’s oblivion-infused amusement. Earlier that day, his tour bus was stopped at an Arizona U.S. Border Patrol, and in it discovered four ounces of marijuana, over 1 ounce of cocaine, 41 grams of Ecstasy, and various drug paraphernalia.


He had just been rattled by the reality that promises and their fulfillment in matters of friendship are two separate and unequal executions.


Lil’ Wayne is currently in a predicament not unlike that Jazz icon Thelonious Monk faced in 1951 with fellow pianist Bud Powell, when arrested for drug possession. Powell was 7 years his junior and considered a younger brother. Monk couldn’t see such budding, bright talent go to waste, so he took the fall, and, as a result, lost his Cabaret Card—the Almighty license required to play at liquor-serving Bars; particularly more costly for a Negro Jazz musician of the times. For 6 years, Monk was denied his former life, but he came back swinging, and many have known him ever since—regardless of all the slanderous and condescending definitions formed by uninformed critics—as a principled pianist with an even better record as a human being. It would do Lil’ Wayne well to pick up acclaimed professor Robin D.G. Kelley’s latest work, a stellar biography on Monk, aptly titled, Thelonious Monk: The Life and Times of an American Original


But one need not even look so far back as a half-century. Prodigy, one half of the New York legendary group Mobb Deep, provides one of the finest examples Loyalty has offered in a while. In October 2007, Prodigy was sentenced to 3 1/2 years behind bars for gun possession. Prodigy contends, however, the real reason he is serving a sentence at all, following what he believes to be an illegal trunk-search, is for turning down offers, proposed by the NYPD, to set up G-Unit General 50 Cent. 


Speaking a couple of years ago on Sirius Radio, he revealed: “When they locked me up they tried to get me to set up 50 Cent. They wanted me to plant drugs and guns in his car. I was like, ‘Hell no, I ain’t doing that.’ They told me if I plant stuff in his car, they would let me walk.” To avoid his fate, he advised peers to “stop f**king putting rims on your car, stop buying all this f**king, fa**ot-ass jewelry that they stealing from black people in Africa, anyway, and just put cameras in your car. Think about your safety, think about surveillance.”


There’s no evidence to back up Prodigy’s side, but it’s highly unlikely he would dare accuse the NYPD of such offense if it never took place.


Prodigy is of the same tribe Beanie Sigel hails from. Both believe loyalty has no superior. Unfortunately, both don’t seem to have equally loyal Generals.


So, for instance, while 50 was working hard behind the scenes trying to secure an earlier release date for Prodigy, Jay-Z didn’t think much of Sigel’s plight enough to send “not one picture, a letter.” And while 50 was recruiting former foes, putting together an event of mass magnitude for his old neighborhood, Jay-Z was selling out his old neighborhood for a mess of pottage. Of course Jay-Z isn’t the worst thing since Santa Claus, and 50 Cent isn’t God’s unblemished gift to the world; but the contrast is quite startling.


There’s a cost to be paid when disloyalty sets into any camp. If Jay-Z is smart, and he sure seems so, he would make quick amends before his empire flattens like a tipped house of cards.  


Tolu Olorunda is a social commentator and a columnist for BlackCommentator.com. He can be reached at: Tolu.Olorunda@gmail.com.


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Curry Media said:

true....so true.  I do understand what jay is talking about; wanting dudes to own up to their failures instead of blaming someone else, but not at the expense of being a snake.  It ain't worth it.
November 2, 2009 1:48 PM
 

J-eas Be easy said:

i hope jay-z is smart cuz it about money its about loyalty and them the worst battles to have cuz a whole lotta s**tcan fall out the closet


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November 2, 2009 1:52 PM
 

DC.dmv said:

Jay ain't worried about nobody disses/commenting/trying to discredit him or now of the above. Touring making money/BP3 -Platinum in still selling worldwide after the leak and critics saying its not good. Personally, I like it alot/World series performance. That's Americans game, right? What do you see in the stands-the majority? Label-clothing-cologne-Real Estate-Partnerships-Etc../Did I say one of the hottest women in the world? He's definitely doing his thang whether the haters like him or not. respect his businessesssssss. He showing us that it is hope. People need to stop all the HOV hatin. I don't like the situation with Beans but Beans still said don't f**k with Jay..Jay need to reach out to Beans but if he don't his empire and body of work will not be tarnished. f**k what you heard. This brother is gettin it in.
November 2, 2009 1:55 PM
 

Curry Media said:

WHY IS IT SOOO easy to say that someone is hating just because they might disagree with they way someone moves...C'mon SON!!! That don't mean you have to be NEGATIVE about it.  It can merely be Constructive Criticism and all of a sudden you hating.  That is some childish shit.  Kids nowdays dont understand the craft of the debate.  A bunch of "YES" Kids looking up to rappers.  Look in yo got damned community for inspiration.
November 2, 2009 2:12 PM
 

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November 2, 2009 2:19 PM
 

RayStantz said:

Funny the article would compare Jay Z to Lil Wayne, Lil Wayne chooses to stay with the dudes that are obviouslu bringing him down and he gets a prison sentance out of it. Jay Z chooses not to and moves on to bigger and better things... Not saying Jay is 100% innocent in this, he did some foul sh*t but how do you fault a man for wanting to avoid "ignorant sh*t" as him and Beans rapped about on American Gangster....

November 2, 2009 2:24 PM
 

dpmidwest said:

Jay z is a very smart businessman but his ways are shady. He will get what's coming to him.He can have all the money in the world but sadness  can still find him .
November 2, 2009 2:39 PM
 

Outlaw76 said:

Why yall keep saying JayZ trying not to get caught up in ignorant s**tso he distanced himself away from Beanie??  BEANIE WAS THE ONE WHO ASKED TO BE LET OUT OF HIS CONTRACT SO HE COULD GO TO G UNIT!!  JAYZ IS THE ONE WHO KEPT HIM AROUND!!  READ!  Jay pulled that s**twith Freeway and Beans bcuz he knew they would thrive more with 50 and n***as would definitely know that Jay wasn't really trying to put his artists out there.  When 50 calling this n***a a punk it's because he does punk b***h s**tlike that.
November 2, 2009 2:54 PM
 

Outlaw76 said:

So, for instance, while 50 was working hard behind the scenes trying to secure an earlier release date for Prodigy, Jay-Z didn’t think much of Sigel’s plight enough to send “not one picture, a letter.”
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Real n***as do real things!
November 2, 2009 2:57 PM
 

Done_reading_BS said:

@ Tolu

This is exactly what ive been trying to tell everybody.....

Something is gonna have to give with Jay...You can only screw so many people for so long....

and

As you can see you can lead a horse to water but it doesnt mean it will drink..

Meaning all these people in here act like they still aint read a word you wrote..

Everything you said is 100% Truth....

Keep up the good work and keep writing the columns.....
November 2, 2009 3:14 PM
 

starrasia said:

Jay Z is not responsible for Beans career. He is responsible for him self. He should have stayed out of jail and handled his business. Oh, I forgot he left in Dame's hand and got screwed. Dame took Jay for granted. Jay was rock-a-fella cash cow. But Dame brought Cam and Dipset there and everything else went south. When he left, he was not obligated to take anybody with him. Dame had very reckless spending habits. I do not feel sorry for RAPPERS WHO GO BROKE FROM SPENDING but Dame was always in the videos blinging. Where is he now. Houses got foreclosed on and wife left him. Who fault is it? They shoud do a story called ROCK-A-FELLA ARTISTS,WHERE ARE THEY NOW? They can't all blame Jay. Dame and Kareem are responsible too. Beans should be worried how to get on, but you can't do it by dissing somebody else for your failures. He don't owe you shit.
November 2, 2009 3:23 PM
 

bnreal80 said:

jay my fav rapper but his ways are of a b****
November 2, 2009 3:28 PM
 

Straight_Savage said:

First off, I wanna thank Jay-Z for letting the world know who Beanie Sigel is/was. Without Jay, I don't think nobody outside of Philly would know. When I first heard dat Truth album, Sigel has been my favorite rapper since.

On the other hand, I am a firm believer in Loyalty and Respect. However in the business world, all morals and values are thrown out the window when it comes down to money. Some people will sell their souls to be in the position Jay-Z is in(did he???). However, I believe that if u are friends before the business, then there shouldn't be nothin these crackas can do, or say to make my n***a and I break our bond. When the s**thit the fan wit Jay and Dame, Beans ain't go to da media talkin bad bout neither one of dem n***as. Which is what he shoulda done. The era of being rewarded for being loyal are dead and gone. Beans is a man and has to take responsibility for his actions as a man. That being said, with all the power, and money Hov has, I can't even fathom as to why you can't/couldn't come up with a plan to help ur friend (Beans) make a better situation for himself and everybody else over at State Prop. The deal he signed with Live Nation shoulda had a clause in it that said something about him being able to get the guys that fell off due to the Roc-a-fella split a recording home under the same umbrella or somethin. In my opinion, you just don't do n***as u f**k wit like dat.  So to make a long story short, Jay used Beans and his whole crew for the street cred, and when he ammassed his fortune, it's f**k you n***as. Damn, and I thought he fucked wit Young Chris too...dat lil n***a is nice...
November 2, 2009 3:43 PM
 

noccosirus said:

I remember a time when Beans got sign and he was on rap city are something and he was talking about Jay-Z gave him some advice about staying out cause if you do that you can good moves for your family. And on some real gangster s**tno real gangster air out there s**tin the public. Beans backed up on some b***h i am not dissing this n***a its just a convo i am having with my brother. Jay-Z might have done some b***h move's maybe we dont know for fact are will never know its all speculation and rumor.

But in the end with all that Beans is saying sound like a n***a with too much time on his and anit doing s**tso he had taken some of the line's like Jay was coming at him. Cause the rap game anit looking for that type of emcee right.    

 No buzz dont get me wrong Beans is nice and one of my favorite emcee's game is different now. The game right  now is changing again a rapper like Bean's maybe will be needed in maybe with that cycle of hiphop comes back around. The game is full of Mini Kanye's, too much swag and too many rapper's not sticking in there lane.    

Even though Jay-Z dont f**k with Beans like that is because he following Corprate America certain artist is going to make money for if Bean wants to make more music and money he better go to E1 music cause at least you get most of your of your sells.

Beans need to realize Dame did him dirty too not just Jay and if his so called beef is with Jay why call out Bleak if its not a diss song n***a said f**k Jay f**k Bleak with any n***a i know you say f**k them and mean and we like brothers we are fighting word man. HipHop needs to grow up man and stop sucking its own d**k ,my how this s**tchanged when the internet got in evolved its all about blogs, beef, and whos old jobs and pictures.

I rather read The Source and XXL cause at least i know they biased with artist and is bulls**t but when the artist becomes bulls**t f**k it man
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DEEP EAST OAKLAND P said:

LOL JAZ - O AND DAME DASH ALL OVER AGAIN.

LIL WAYNE IS LIKE 26 OR 26 GOING ON 27. HE'S 1 YEAR OLDER THAN ME.
November 2, 2009 4:20 PM
 

JayAllah said:

nice read... although i disagree on a lot of things.. theres always more than one side to a story and it seems like we only get to observe what was said on both sides and come with a conclusion on what happened.  when really we dont know.

personally it does seem that jay used beans as a business partner rather than a friend when sig got home.  From a business point you wouldnt let your MAIN stock go to a Competitor (50 cent)

but i think its still too early to take any sides.. i just hope they come together on a friendship level..
November 2, 2009 4:22 PM
 

DEEP EAST OAKLAND P said:

I WOUNDER HOW JAY WOULD HAVE FELT IF DAME DASH WOULD HAVE DONE HIM THIS WAY AFTER THE STABBING INCIDENT LOL.

DAME MADE HIMSELF LOOK BAD TO INSURE JAY'S SUCCESS. DAME GAVE JAY HIS CLOTHING LINE, LIQUEUR, AND MOVIE DEALS, ARGUED AND SPIT IN CROOKED WHITE FOLKS FACE FOR JAY. BUT IN THE END LOOK WHO'S ON TOP AND WHO NEEDS HELP LOL.

JAY THIS DON'T LOOK GOOD NO MATTER HOW YOU SPIN IT.
November 2, 2009 4:31 PM
 

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man, what happened to the blackman?


the blackman nowadays aint shet.

niccas IDOLIZING bytch azz niccas talking about he the best.

best wut?  house nicca?

lets put this shet in perspective..

lets put this whole shet in terms of a slave plantation..


of course the whiteman is the slave master..we the field niccas picking cotton.


this nicca jay no longer works in the field picking cotton wid us..

they move that nicca in the HOUSE to make food for us field niccas..

Now, Jay aint making good food with vitamins..and minerals..

no, he making fried dog shet pies for niccas.

ok, so sum of the field niccas sumwhat happy that Jay and a few niccas are in the kitchen cooking for us..

but they only happy becuz they figure Jay is gonna provide a way for us all to eat..and maybe devise a way to explain to us how to free ourselves..shet maybe hell provide a way for us to have our own city where we dont have to ask the Master for shet.


But no.......house nicca scum now gets to eat at the dinner table wid Massa... the other niccas left in the kitchen to cook for us field niccas..

them kitchen niccas thinking jay in their eating wid Massa..but he gonna come thru on sum real shet.


NOPE!!!
Massa tell jay to drop them kitchen niccas(beans..state prop.other artist on def jam..and former associates)

and to not even address the field nccas in a way thats gonna provide sum hope..for a better life..


so Jay drops them kitchen niccas...associates wid sum more funny style niccas that eat on the floor at massas Table..

Massa tells Jay how to be a BLACK SLAVE MASSA...

and that if Jay would do what hes told..he would have his own room..in Massas house..with a bathroom and his own horse..

a woman who idolizes Massa wife..and wants to be her.


So, check it...what is Jay showing u?  hes in Massa house now..he got his own room in Massa house..

hes doin the Massa a bidding.  He wont even breathe a word about the field nicca condition so he can stay in Massa house..

lets look at the field niccas=YOU AND ME..

alot of field niccas complaining about Jay selling out..alot more niccas happy that Jay is in Massa house..

so, becuz Jay is the SlaveMassa wid a Black face..it makes it okay..

sum field niccas wanna be in the house too!  they wanna flash they teeth for Massa too!

they say .."jay has moved on to bigger and better thangs"=in Massas house

that its them kitchen niccas fault that Jay decided to sell them out and the field niccas...

so now its cool to be a Baphomet worshipping satanic sellout nicca..



this nicca jay said..

"I NEVER PRAYED TO GOD..I PRAYED TO GOTTI"=A WHITEMAN!

"I NEVER READ THE BIBLE A DAY IN MY LIFE"..but the nicca has a sweat shirt that reads

"DO AS THOU WILT"..from WHITE man Aliester Crowley who is a famous satanist,homo sexual..and pervert!

"I NEVER READ THE QURAN OR ISLAMIC SCRIPTURES........."

But the nicca reading satanic books and luciferic philosophy..and hes in the Occult..a freemason


ya know a another name for the Freemasonic organization?


THE GREAT WHITE BROTHERHOOD..


so this nicca does all of this..and even calls the FEDS on BEANs!




the phucking feds!!

smh


Blackman, u aint shet....when the Most High kills bubble lip shawn..ya ll niccas gonna be looking stoopid..

But dont worry, Massa gonna throw yall niccas in the concentration camps...where yall belong..

scumbag house neegro s
November 2, 2009 10:42 PM
 

RHYMEOLOGY said:

Is Wayne 30 or 27?..and dis n***a be dissin illseed bloggin ass in the beginning of his article!
November 2, 2009 11:09 PM
 

ShudUpandListen said:

I created an account just to state that this is the most bogus and bull$#it biased article I think I have ever read....And I read a lot.  To even write an article on some family s**tlike this and to take a side is real petty of you.  Stick to writing articles about your political views and things like that.  Hip-hop and music in general doesn't seem as if it's you.  And to call yourself a true journalist while writing this is quite concerning to me...what I'm saying is that it seems very.......irresponsible.  Do better.
November 2, 2009 11:24 PM
 

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dynastydiva said:

I sit back and read this crap and it becomes all so clear to me that the world has gone mad. I need everyone to just take a step back into the real world where these same sort of situations happen to you. I know this because it has happened to me .....


"BUM AZZ FRIENDS LEACHING OFF YOU, CAUSING PROBLEMS IN YOUR LIFE AND STRAIGHT PLAYING YOU."

What is the time limit for putting up with someones bullshyt?
When you give chance after chance, when is it enough?
Why must I be responsible for your actions?
Who designated me to hold your hand?
How do you expect me to react?

I ask these things because yall act like it is breaking news that
JAY IS A RUTHLESS BUSINESSMAN
BOSSES MAKE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH
BUT IT IS HIS DECISION AND YOU ROLL WITH IT  
YOU DONT BLOW IT AGAIN BY TRYING TO SIGN A DEAL WITH HIS ENEMY

BUT U WAS WILLING TO TAKE A BULLET THOUGH...SO TRANSPARENT ...YALL GOT TO SEE THROUGH THAT
November 3, 2009 1:21 AM
 

uberVU - social comments said:

This post was mentioned on Twitter by ccoleiii: Interesting perspective on the whole Jay v. beans situation. Its no coincidence that @cthagod was fired  http://bit.ly/XQ2BE
November 3, 2009 1:55 AM
 

NYG523 said:

To all u stupid motherfuckers that can't read. BEANS WANTED TO GET OFF ROCAFELLA. so all that talk about the n***a Beans being a leech is bulls**t. If Jay felt that way why didn't he just let him out the contract so he could go to G-Unit.

Wouldn't you be mad if you had a chance to get more money and someone was holding you back.

And i kno one of you is gonna say why would he sign to G-Unit.

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Lil Scrappy - Gold Album (yes nigras, that s**twent gold)
November 3, 2009 3:25 AM
 

Akaneon1 said:

I see Judah trolling as usual...

This article fucking sucks... Like everything Tolu has ever written...
November 3, 2009 5:22 AM
 

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dr.harvey said:

My Lil' big homie Wayne needz a vacation anyway... He iz the hardest working man in the industry... Az for J, CEO'z in Hip Hop are being spotted 24/7...I have a feelin' he haz a spine and Beanz wordz are being twisted by theze insignificat blog junkiez... "Haterz" in this game..... Come see me.......
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Mrclassick said:

Tolu Olorunda, Good read but just like others who think they know or just going off of what Beans said you are A fool, until you know what is in Beans contract you don't know d**k", and all that talk about they were friends, NO, Beans was and is An Artist, get the facts d**k heads!!!! (Hear Both Sides Before Trying To Convict, You HATERS!)
November 3, 2009 8:40 AM
 

Bossbleed said:

I sit back and read this crap and it becomes all so clear to me that the world has gone mad. I need everyone to just take a step back into the real world where these same sort of situations happen to you. I know this because it has happened to me .....


"BUM AZZ FRIENDS LEACHING OFF YOU, CAUSING PROBLEMS IN YOUR LIFE AND STRAIGHT PLAYING YOU."

What is the time limit for putting up with someones bullshyt?
When you give chance after chance, when is it enough?
Why must I be responsible for your actions?
Who designated me to hold your hand?
How do you expect me to react?

I ask these things because yall act like it is breaking news that
JAY IS A RUTHLESS BUSINESSMAN
BOSSES MAKE DECISIONS THAT YOU MAY NOT AGREE WITH
BUT IT IS HIS DECISION AND YOU ROLL WITH IT  
YOU DONT BLOW IT AGAIN BY TRYING TO SIGN A DEAL WITH HIS ENEMY

BUT U WAS WILLING TO TAKE A BULLET THOUGH...SO TRANSPARENT ...YALL GOT TO SEE THROUGH THAT

I see through Jay. Like you said... JAY IS A RUTHLESS BUSINESSMAN. Beanie got stuck in a nasty divorce when Jay switched out and threw Murder Inc., Rap-a-lot, Death Row and Dame (Roc) under the bus. These four labels together were going to
start their own distribution company and get rid of the middle man who's been leeching off of hip hop for decades. Jays reward for being a snitch....Rocafella records, Rocawear, Def Jam President position, Roc Nation, 40/40 club, etc etc. Wheres Dame? Wheres Suge? Wheres Irv? Wheres J Prince? People don't wanna believe the record company is fraternal but they better start to wake up?
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Peace.  
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Peace to the Gods and Earths.
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November 3, 2009 3:02 PM
 

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LISTEN YOU DUMB A55 MUTHAFUKAZ TALKIN THAT "LOYALTY" BS....FIRST OFF, WHY IS JAY Z NOT LOYAL???? WHY SHOULD HE BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR GROWN MEN FUKIN UP? AND I'M NOT A JAY Z STAN BY THE WAY....OK, BEANS...YEAH, TOUGH GUY, STREET GUY...ETC...ETC...BLAH...BLAH...
THAT MAN TOUGH GUY IMAGE DONT BRING YOU NO MONEY! I KNOW NI99AZ HALF HIS SIZE AND HALF HIS AGE THAT WILL TEAR A FUKIN BLOCK DOWN...WHY WAS BEANS OUT HERE FUKIN UP SHOOTIN MUFUKAS AND SHYT? SHOOTING LIL TEENAGERS IN THE STOMACH AND DOIN DUMB SHYT??? WHY SHOULD JAY Z POSITION HIMSELF TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS DUMMY CRIMINAL BULL SHYT? IF ANYTHING BEANS WASNT LOYAL TO HIM??? THIS DUMMIE GOIN AROUND TRYNA BE SUPER THUG TRYNA BE TOUGH SHOOTIN MUFUKAS AND PUTTIN HIS COMPANY ON FRONT STREET. GIVIN HIS SELF AND THE COMPANY HE WORK FOR ALL THE BAD PUBLICITY...IF I WORK AT GENERAL MOTORS, AND I GO OUT HERE DOIN DUMB SHYT SHOOTING UP THE CLUB AND WHAT NOT...THEY LOCK MY BLACK AZZ UP...YOU THINK I'M GONE BE DOIN INTERVIEWS SAYIN "MAN WHY THE SUPERVISOR OR C.E.O AT GM AINT COME VISIT ME...MAN I HELD THEM DOWN FA YEARS MAN...IN THE ASSEMBLY LINE TELLIN FAMILY N FRIENDS TO BUY GM CARS"...MAN MY AZZ WOULD BE FIRED!!! EVERYBODY WANNA BE MAD AT JAY Z BECAUSE HE SUCCESSFUL...MAN IF THAT AINT A n***a MENTALITY THEN WHAT IS? WHAT THESE CRY BABY ASS n***as WANT FROM JAY???? JAY DID HIS HUSTLE THING BUT HIS GOAL WANT TO BE 43 YEARS OLD STILL SELLING NICKEL BAGS!! HIS GOAL IS WHERE HE AT NOW!!! AND WHAT IS BUM ASS JIM JONES ARGUMENT??? WHAT IS HE MAD AT? HE WANNA SIT ON JAY Z LAP TOO??? DAME DASH WAS f**kin UP THE MONEY, TRYNA BE PUFFY AND WAS BAD FOR BUSINESS..PLUS THIS NI99A DIDN'T EVEN WANNA GIVE JAY Z HIS MASTERS FOR REASONABLE DOUBT!!! DAME DASH DID IT BECAUSE IT WAS A "GREAT BUSINESS MOVE"...BUT WHEN JAY Z MAKE GOOD BUSINESS MOVES GROWN ASS MEN START CRYING...LMAO....LOYALTY? MAN YOU LAMES IS WATCHING TOO MUCH FUKIN T.V LIKE STRAIGHT UP...MUFUCKAS ALWAYS WANNA USE THAT BULLSHYT WHEN THEY FUK UP AND IS IRRESPONSIBLE AND THE OTHER NI99A WHO MADE THE SMART MOVE FLOURISHED..SMH
November 3, 2009 4:33 PM
 

SagNasty989 said:

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November 3, 2009 4:33 PM
 

SagNasty989 said:

LISTEN YOU DUMB A55 MUTHAFUKAZ TALKIN THAT "LOYALTY" BS....FIRST OFF, WHY IS JAY Z NOT LOYAL???? WHY SHOULD HE BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR GROWN MEN FUKIN UP? AND I'M NOT A JAY Z STAN BY THE WAY....OK, BEANS...YEAH, TOUGH GUY, STREET GUY...ETC...ETC...BLAH...BLAH...
THAT MAN TOUGH GUY IMAGE DONT BRING YOU NO MONEY! I KNOW NI99AZ HALF HIS SIZE AND HALF HIS AGE THAT WILL TEAR A FUKIN BLOCK DOWN...WHY WAS BEANS OUT HERE FUKIN UP SHOOTIN MUFUKAS AND SHYT? SHOOTING LIL TEENAGERS IN THE STOMACH AND DOIN DUMB SHYT??? WHY SHOULD JAY Z POSITION HIMSELF TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS DUMMY CRIMINAL BULL SHYT? IF ANYTHING BEANS WASNT LOYAL TO HIM??? THIS DUMMIE GOIN AROUND TRYNA BE SUPER THUG TRYNA BE TOUGH SHOOTIN MUFUKAS AND PUTTIN HIS COMPANY ON FRONT STREET. GIVIN HIS SELF AND THE COMPANY HE WORK FOR ALL THE BAD PUBLICITY...IF I WORK AT GENERAL MOTORS, AND I GO OUT HERE DOIN DUMB SHYT SHOOTING UP THE CLUB AND WHAT NOT...THEY LOCK MY BLACK AZZ UP...YOU THINK I'M GONE BE DOIN INTERVIEWS SAYIN "MAN WHY THE SUPERVISOR OR C.E.O AT GM AINT COME VISIT ME...MAN I HELD THEM DOWN FA YEARS MAN...IN THE ASSEMBLY LINE TELLIN FAMILY N FRIENDS TO BUY GM CARS"...MAN MY AZZ WOULD BE FIRED!!! EVERYBODY WANNA BE MAD AT JAY Z BECAUSE HE SUCCESSFUL...MAN IF THAT AINT A n***a MENTALITY THEN WHAT IS? WHAT THESE CRY BABY ASS n***as WANT FROM JAY???? JAY DID HIS HUSTLE THING BUT HIS GOAL WANT TO BE 43 YEARS OLD STILL SELLING NICKEL BAGS!! HIS GOAL IS WHERE HE AT NOW!!! AND WHAT IS BUM ASS JIM JONES ARGUMENT??? WHAT IS HE MAD AT? HE WANNA SIT ON JAY Z LAP TOO??? DAME DASH WAS f**kin UP THE MONEY, TRYNA BE PUFFY AND WAS BAD FOR BUSINESS..PLUS THIS NI99A DIDN'T EVEN WANNA GIVE JAY Z HIS MASTERS FOR REASONABLE DOUBT!!! DAME DASH DID IT BECAUSE IT WAS A "GREAT BUSINESS MOVE"...BUT WHEN JAY Z MAKE GOOD BUSINESS MOVES GROWN ASS MEN START CRYING...LMAO....LOYALTY? MAN YOU LAMES IS WATCHING TOO MUCH FUKIN T.V LIKE STRAIGHT UP...MUFUCKAS ALWAYS WANNA USE THAT BULLSHYT WHEN THEY FUK UP AND IS IRRESPONSIBLE AND THE OTHER NI99A WHO MADE THE SMART MOVE FLOURISHED..SMH
November 3, 2009 4:34 PM
 

SagNasty989 said:

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THAT MAN TOUGH GUY IMAGE DONT BRING YOU NO MONEY! I KNOW NI99AZ HALF HIS SIZE AND HALF HIS AGE THAT WILL TEAR A FUKIN BLOCK DOWN...WHY WAS BEANS OUT HERE FUKIN UP SHOOTIN MUFUKAS AND SHYT? SHOOTING LIL TEENAGERS IN THE STOMACH AND DOIN DUMB SHYT??? WHY SHOULD JAY Z POSITION HIMSELF TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS DUMMY CRIMINAL BULL SHYT? IF ANYTHING BEANS WASNT LOYAL TO HIM??? THIS DUMMIE GOIN AROUND TRYNA BE SUPER THUG TRYNA BE TOUGH SHOOTIN MUFUKAS AND PUTTIN HIS COMPANY ON FRONT STREET. GIVIN HIS SELF AND THE COMPANY HE WORK FOR ALL THE BAD PUBLICITY...IF I WORK AT GENERAL MOTORS, AND I GO OUT HERE DOIN DUMB SHYT SHOOTING UP THE CLUB AND WHAT NOT...THEY LOCK MY BLACK AZZ UP...YOU THINK I'M GONE BE DOIN INTERVIEWS SAYIN "MAN WHY THE SUPERVISOR OR C.E.O AT GM AINT COME VISIT ME...MAN I HELD THEM DOWN FA YEARS MAN...IN THE ASSEMBLY LINE TELLIN FAMILY N FRIENDS TO BUY GM CARS"...MAN MY AZZ WOULD BE FIRED!!! EVERYBODY WANNA BE MAD AT JAY Z BECAUSE HE SUCCESSFUL...MAN IF THAT AINT A n***a MENTALITY THEN WHAT IS? WHAT THESE CRY BABY ASS n***as WANT FROM JAY???? JAY DID HIS HUSTLE THING BUT HIS GOAL WANT TO BE 43 YEARS OLD STILL SELLING NICKEL BAGS!! HIS GOAL IS WHERE HE AT NOW!!! AND WHAT IS BUM ASS JIM JONES ARGUMENT??? WHAT IS HE MAD AT? HE WANNA SIT ON JAY Z LAP TOO??? DAME DASH WAS f**kin UP THE MONEY, TRYNA BE PUFFY AND WAS BAD FOR BUSINESS..PLUS THIS NI99A DIDN'T EVEN WANNA GIVE JAY Z HIS MASTERS FOR REASONABLE DOUBT!!! DAME DASH DID IT BECAUSE IT WAS A "GREAT BUSINESS MOVE"...BUT WHEN JAY Z MAKE GOOD BUSINESS MOVES GROWN ASS MEN START CRYING...LMAO....LOYALTY? MAN YOU LAMES IS WATCHING TOO MUCH FUKIN T.V LIKE STRAIGHT UP...MUFUCKAS ALWAYS WANNA USE THAT BULLSHYT WHEN THEY FUK UP AND IS IRRESPONSIBLE AND THE OTHER NI99A WHO MADE THE SMART MOVE FLOURISHED..SMH
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November 5, 2009 9:40 AM
 

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est-ce que quelqu'un m'aidera à vérifier le site Web si elles offrent le réel, réel ou non des chaussures.
Je pense qu'ils sont tomber, parce que le prix est si bon marché,
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November 6, 2009 9:22 PM
 

the ghost of Robb Nell said:

With all due respect to everyone who read, wrote or commented on this article, this is crap.  I don't know what went on behind closed doors.  From what beans is saying, it would seem that his real beef is with Dame.  It would seem that they all knew why the Roc split up and that was Dame's stealing ass (per Beans).  When Jay found out he cut all ties with all associated with the Roc probably because he had no idea who was behind the s**tDame was on.  When you don't know who to trust, you trust no one.  If this is a case of "why aint you helpin me?", then look in the mirror.  The help was extended immediately.  Albums, Deals, Companies, etc.  He chose to buy 2 Bentleys, got to jail, etc.  I've cut ties with people I've helped for reasons similar.  You ask me for a place to crash.  I charge you no rent and feed your ass so that you can put together some money to get on your feet with a certain time frame, usually about six months, in mind.  You chose to chase hoes and buy weed with your little bit of money and time runs out on your ass and you gotta go.  I move on within my career and progress and you look at me like a disloyal ass cat because even though I never said anything to you about your actions that were juvenile or ignorant and let you do you because you're a GROWN ASS MAN, you were made to understand you had a certain amount of time to sit down here for a minute and get yourself together.  So now it's time to go and you're upset with ME!!!??  So really?  Who is more disloyal to you, me or you?  If I give you an avenue to come up, I've done my part.  If you choose to participate in bulls**t or not be about gettin yourself right, then you've made your bed.  Lie in it.  Don't blame me because I'm not going to be your wheel chair.  I was already your crutch.  
November 9, 2009 12:53 PM
 

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November 10, 2009 11:50 AM
 

TBDENT said:

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November 10, 2009 7:00 PM
 

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November 11, 2009 10:41 PM
 

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time.


free shipping
competitive price
anyzsize available
accept the paypal
jordan shoes       $32
nike shox          $32
Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33
Ed Hardy Bikini $23
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handbag    $33
christian louboutin $80

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jacklang0005 said:



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est-ce que quelqu'un m'aidera à vérifier le site Web si elles offrent le réel, réel ou non des chaussures.
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any size available
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Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35
Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&g) $35
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November 12, 2009 9:53 AM
 

JUSTME2327 said:

First you cats cant be serious. My biggest problem reading alot of this is you think Jay is wrong. What is wrong with bettering your self.  Can anyone tell that. I love beans to death but CMON MAN. If a n***a dont want to make it f**k him. Thats how i see it. Im suppose to struggle cause you want to struggle. Im trying to get it. IF you not HOLLA. n***as saying well hov did them dirty. Y? Cause he didnt want to wait on success, he wanted it now. Now the clown 50 saying well you not from the hood no more. Last time i checked this n***a lives in connecticut. 50 makes more R&B songs then any n***a in the biz. You n***as need to grow up and look at it from a visionary point of view. So he didnt bring them n***as with him. But when all that s**twas going on what was them n***as doing. NOTHING. I feel jay. n***a do you. He dont have to respond. 50 once said he wants to be like jay when n***as diss him. The n***a said the say f**k jay-z and jay be like you pesants. im rich. Its funny how n***as in hip hop get mad cause a n***a made it and doing big things. Get the f**k outta here.....Sawf representer. H-Town
November 13, 2009 10:01 AM
 

Yanewfavorite said:

ARE YOU READY TO GET $50,000 WITH ONLY $5 BUCKS IN JUST 5 WEEKS !!!??

Take a look at this !!!

You gotta be crazy! How on earth do you think you can buy 50 grand
for lousy 5 bucks? Well, that's what I was wondering, too until I
came across this letter.
First of all, IT'S PERFECTLY LEGAL! (Call 1-800-725-2161) if you
have any questions about the following opportunity to make
$50,000.00 and that probably WITHIN LESS THAN TWO MONTHS!
Well, here it goes:
A little while back, I was browsing these newsgroups, just like you
are now, and came across an article similar to this that said you
could make thousands of dollars within weeks with only an initial
investment of $5.00! So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a joke," but
like most of us I was curious, so I kept reading. Anyway, it said
that you send $1.00 to each of the 5 names and address stated in the
article. You then place your own name and address in the bottom of the
 list at #5, and post the article in at least 200 newsgroups. (There
are thousands) No catch, that was it.
I knew that that was the opportunity I had waited for for a long time
I thought it was about time that the money of the world gets into the
 right hands! OURS, right? I never had a doubt that this thing will
 actually work and even if it didn't, what were 5 stamps and $5.00 for a
try?
As I mentioned before, like most of us I was a little skeptical and
a little worried about the legal aspects of it all. So I checked it out
with the U.S. Post Office (1-800-725-2161) and they confirmed that it is
indeed legal!
Now, that's how your story WILL sound like, too if you participate:
Well GUESS WHAT!!... with in 7 days, I started getting money in the
mail! I was shocked! I still figured it would end soon, and didn't
give it another thought. But the money just kept coming in. In my
first week, I made about $20.00 to $30.00 dollars. By the end of the
second week I had made a total of over $1,000.00!!!!!! In the third
week I had over $10,000.00 and it's still growing. This is now my
fourth week and I have made a total of just over $42,000.00 and it's
still coming in .....(This is related by one person that began like you)
Let me tell you how this works and most importantly, Why
it works....also, make sure you print a copy of this article NOW, so
you can get the information off of it as you need it. The process is
very simple and consists of 3 easy steps:
STEP 1: Get 5 separate pieces of paper and write the following on each
piece of paper "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR MAILING LIST."  Now get 5 $1.00
bills and place ONE inside EACH of the 5 pieces of paper so the bill
will not be seen through the envelope to prevent thievery. Next, place
one paper in each of the 5 envelopes and seal them. You should now
have 5 sealed envelopes, each with a piece of paper stating the above
 phrase and a $1.00 bill. What you are doing is creating a service by
this. THIS IS PERFECTLY LEGAL!

Mail the 5 envelopes to the following addresses:


#1 Chad Hastings
  9C  Quiet Harbor Dr.
  Saratoga Springs, NY 12866
#2 Sean Mellett
  Upper Camus
  Camus Po
  Co.Galway
  Ireland
#3 Alice Walter
  Av. Defensores de Chaves, 21 - 4º
  1000 Lisboa
  Portugal
#4 Diana Geraldes
  Cidade Quelimane, lt 14, 2º Dto
  1800 Lisboa
  PORTUGAL
#5 Dellian Sharp II
  531 Shirley Ave.
  Buffalo, NY 14215


STEP 2: Now take the #1 name off the list that you see above, move the
other names up (2 becomes 1, 3 becomes 2, etc...) and add YOUR Name as
number 5 on the list.

STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as
close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at
least 200 newsgroups. (I think there is close to 18,000 groups) All
you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more money you
make! Also email it to your friend's, family, post it on FaceBook and Myspace, etc.

Don't know HOW to post in the newsgroups? Well do exactly the
following:
FOR NETSCAPE USERS:
1) Click on any newsgroup, like normal. Then click on "To News", which
is in the top left corner of the newsgroup page. This will bring up a
message box.
2) Fill in the SUBJECT with a flashy title, like the one I used,
something to catch the eye!!!
3) Now go to the message part of the box and retype this letter
exactly as it is here, with exception of your few changes. (remember
to add your name to number 5 and move the rest up)
4) When your done typing in the WHOLE letter, click on 'FILE' above
the send button. Then, 'SAVE AS..' DO NOT SEND YOUR ARTICLE UNTILL YOU
SAVE IT. (so you don't have to type this 200 times :-)

5) Now that you have saved the letter, go ahead and send your first
copy! (click the 'SEND' button in the top left corner)

6) This is where you post all 200! OK, go to ANY newsgroup article and
click the 'TO NEWS' button again. Type in your flashy subject in the
'SUBJECT BOX', then go to the message and place your cursor here. Now
click on 'ATTACHMENT' which is right below the 'SUBJECT BOX'. Click on
attach file then find your letter wherever you saved it.  Click once
on your file then click 'OPEN' then click 'OK'.  If you did this right
, you should see your filename in the 'ATTACHMENT BOX' and it will be
shaded.
NOW POST AWAY!
FOR INTERNET EXPLORER:
It's just as easy, holding down the left mouse button, highlight this
entire article, then press the 'CTRL' key and 'C' key at the same time
to copy this article. Then print the article for your records to have
the names of those you will be sending $1.00 to.
Go to the newsgroups and press 'POST AN ARTICLE' type in your flashy
subject and click the large window below. Press 'CTRL' and 'V' and the
article will appear in the message window. **BE SURE TO MAKE YOUR
ADDRESS CHANGES TO THE 5 NAMES.** Now re-highlight the article and
re-copy it so you have the changes.... then all you have to do for
each newsgroup is 'CTRL' and 'V' and press 'POST'. It's that easy!!
THAT'S IT! All you have to do is jump to different newsgroups and post
away, after you get the hang of it, it will take about 30 seconds for
each newsgroup!

Also email it to your friend's, family, post it on FaceBook and Myspace, etc.
**REMEMBER, THE MORE NEWSGROUPS YOU POST IN, THE MORE MONEY YOU WILL
 MAKE!! BUT YOU HAVE TO POST A MINIMUM OF 200**

**If these instructions are too complex to follow, try Forte's "Free
Agent." It is freeware for noncommercial use. To download it, simply
use a search utility and type "Forte Free Agent". You should be able
to find it.**
That's it! You will begin receiving money from around the world within
days! You may eventually want to rent a P.O. Box due to the large amount of
mail you receive. If you wish to stay anonymous, you can  invent a name to
use, as long as the postman will deliver it. **JUST
 MAKE SURE ALL THE ADDRESSES ARE CORRECT.**
Now the WHY part:
This entire principle works because it is in a format of an upside
down tree with thousands of branches. Everyone below you will see to
it that the tree continues because they want to get money. Those
below THEM will continue because THEY want to get the cash etc.
Out of 200 postings, say I receive only 5 replies (a very low
example). So then I made $5.00 with my name at #5 on the letter. Now,
each of the 5 persons who just sent me $1.00 make the MINIMUM 200
postings, each with my name at #4 and only 5 persons respond to each
of the original 5, that is another $25.00 for me, now those 25 each
make 200 MINIMUM posts with my name at #3 and only 5 replies each, I
will bring in an additional $125.00! Now, those 125 persons turn
around and post the MINIMUM 200 with my name at #2 and only receive 5
replies each, I will make an additional $626.00! OK, now here is the
fun part, each of those 625 persons post a MINIMUM of 200 letters
with my name at #1 and they each only receive 5 replies, that just
made me $3,125.00!!! With a original investment of only $5.00!
AMAZING! And as I said 5 responses is actually VERY LOW!  Average is
probable 20 to 30! So lets put those figures at just 15 responses
per person. Here is what you will make:

at #5 $15.00
at #4 $225.00
at #3 $3,375.00
at #2 $50,625.00
at #1 $759,375.00

When your name is no longer on the list, you just take the latest
posting in the newsgroups, and send out another $5.00 to names on the
list, putting your name at number 5 and start posting again.
The thing to remember is that thousands of people all over the world
are joining the Internet and reading these articles everyday, JUST
LIKE YOU are now!! And this will go on and on and on and on.... get
the picture? Well, there's 5,000,000,000 people on the world and
most of them will eventually end up being hooked into the internet.
So  there are virtually unlimited resources. Of course this will work
the best at the very beginning so the faster you post, the better for
 YOU!
So can you afford $5.00 and see if it really works?? I think so!
People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one sends
you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening when
there are tons of new honest users and new honest works?? I think
so... People have said, "what if the plan is played out and no one
sends you the money? So what! What are the chances of that happening
 when there are tons of new honest users and new honest people who are
joining the Internet and newsgroups everyday and are willing to
give it a try? Estimates are at 20,000 to 50,000 new users,
 every day, with thousands of those joining the actual Internet.
Remember, play FAIRLY and HONESTLY and this will work. You just have
to be honest.  Make sure you print this article out RIGHT NOW, also.
Try to keep a list of everyone that sends you money and always keep an
eye on the newsgroups to make sure everyone is playing fairly.
Remember, HONESTY IS THE BEST POLICY. You don't need to cheat the
basic idea to make the money!!

GOOD LUCK to all and please play fairly and reap the huge rewards from
this, which is tons of extra CASH.

**By the way, if you try to deceive
 people by posting the messages with your name in the list and not
sending the money to the rest of the people already on the list, you
 will NOT get as much. Someone I talked to knew someone who did that and
he only made about $150.00, and that's after seven or eight weeks!
 Then he sent the 5 $1.00 bills, people added him to their lists, and
in 4-5 weeks he had over $10k. This is the fairest and most honest way
I have ever seen to share the wealth of the world without costing
anything but our time!!! You also may want to buy mailing and e-mail
 lists for future dollars.

Please remember to declare your extra income.   Thanks once again...
November 13, 2009 7:12 PM
 

elivebuyss said:



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Je suis tellement heureux pour les produits i ordre, parce que les chaussures de l'air très bien, mais à des prix fous 39usd.
est-ce que quelqu'un m'aidera à vérifier le site Web si elles offrent le réel, réel ou non des chaussures.
Je pense qu'ils sont tomber, parce que le prix est si bon marché,
mais toute fa?on, et la qualité des chaussures est grand, j'aime bien les chaussures.

vous pouvez consulter leur site Internet un lien http://www.elivebuy.com

free shipping
competitive price
any size available
accept the paypal

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Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35
Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&g) $35
Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16
Jean(True Religion,ed hardy,coogi) $30
Sunglasses(Oakey,coach,gucci,Armaini) $16
New era cap $15

Bikini (Ed hardy,polo) $25

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http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s65  (HANDBAGS)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s69  (sunglass)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s5    (bikini)
November 13, 2009 7:45 PM
 

weitengrong321 said:

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time.


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competitive price
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jordan shoes       $32
nike shox          $32
Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33
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November 16, 2009 10:02 AM
 

elivebuykk said:



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competitive price
any size available
accept the paypal

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Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35
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Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16
Jean(True Religion,ed hardy,coogi) $30
Sunglasses(Oakey,coach,gucci,Armaini) $16
New era cap $15

Bikini (Ed hardy,polo) $25

http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s1   (ED HARDY)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s11  (JEANS)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s6   (TSHIRTS)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s28  (JORDAN SHOES)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s58  (SANDAL)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s65  (HANDBAGS)
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November 16, 2009 10:10 AM
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