When Will Rap Artists Stand Up For Their Rights? 
Published Monday, November 09, 2009 10:53 AM
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By Tolu Olorunda
When Will Rap Artists Stand Up For Their Rights?

 

“Our troops need to leave Iraq/

And Rap Ni**as need to go on strike so we could get more cash/”

—Raekwon ft. Ghostface Killah, “Cold Outside,” Only Built 4 Cuban Linx II, 2009.


“The highest paid artist gets like 26 cents off a dollar. And they sell your sh*t for $20. I can't use my own music without getting your permission? I wrote it, paid a Ni**a for the beat; I paid you for loaning me the money, I paid you back your money; now, we splitting because you owed me the money but you own my sh*t. I don't owe you a motherfu**ing thing. Why [are] you holding on to my sh**? And that's standard. Get the f**k out of here, man.”


Those are the words of none other than DMX—still one of the most prolific voices Hip-Hop has been blessed with. For all his erratic impulses and character flaws, it’s always been a blessing to wrestle with the concerns X has continually raised throughout his career. Those comments, made in an interview with Sounds Like Fire, a forum for independent artists, are as profound and courageous as it gets.


DMX is ringing the alarm, but, as with the epigraph to this editorial, how many peers are likely to listen up and take appropriate action anytime soon?


While the dominant Hip-Hop media plays into the hands of major label executives who hope to keep the fan-base everlastingly fixated on the most supercilious of spats, rappers are still being swindled, left and right, for all their worth. In this new age, where CD sales are plummeting faster than failed parachutes, the labels have found news ways to make up for lost ground, essentially ensuring that even if music downloading takes over, as it’s poised to, as the wave of the future, they can still make as much money—if not more—from artists as they once did.


They searched far and wide for mechanisms to bring into fruition this desire, and they found it: The 360 deal.


I know of no other contractual clause more draconian than the 360 deal. It is the Patriot Act of the recording industry. It effectively robs the artist of any and every opportunity to make money independently—without the major labels’ claws deep into his/her pockets. What it says, with no attempt at equivocation, is, You work for us. Your blood, sweat, and tears are ours. We own you. Now, pay us!


For two pertinent commentaries, see:


Interview: Did the Marketing Department Kill Hip-Hop?  

The Death Of Record Labels: Artists: Take Charge!


The giant, but crawling, labels are not only having a field day with these deals; they’re increasingly becoming mandatory. The excuse given is that since fans no more purchase music or buy records, the only way a label can reasonable make profit is to tax every venture an artist is involved in.


Of course this is convenient amnesia at work. As I’ve written before, the same suits seemingly at a loss for words over the sharp decline in record sales know just why this is so, but would rather feign ignorance. The same free market fundamentalist sensibility that humbled the national economy to its knees is no different than the deregulated, mass-reproduced, oversight-devoid music supply that reduced the insatiable demand fans once had for creative and meticulous music production. 


You see, these label executives share the same spirit with European pimps who strike deals with certain relatives of indigent young women in African, or Asian, or Latin American countries, then transport—smuggle—them abroad, only to confisticate their passports upon arrival, lock them up, hold them hostage, and inform them of the enormous cost involved in the traveling expenditures, and just how they’re expected to make up for it—from then onward. The point: An ATM machine is only as functional as the amount it contains.


Once upon a time, artists understood that the best a label could do is solicit a few radio interviews and magazine front covers. So, all they wanted, and asked for, was a foot in the door, and the rest would be history. They would work hard in building key, strategic relationships, respectfully promoting their brand, and engaging in extracurricular ventures that guaranteed a stable, and to an extent excessive, lifestyle. Movie roles, TV advertisements, endorsement deals, and merchandise sales were but a few of the avenues explored. For a while, these artists managed to make a considerable amount of money, more so because, as Redman recently confessed, “Hip-Hop is not paying all the bills.” 


Hip-Hop alone has never been able to pay all the bills. Artists learned quick to forge business partnerships with corporate America and, in turn, diversified their brands. But the labels just couldn’t see the children of Israel cross over the red sea into freedom. And thus arose the need for the 360.


Cedric Muhammad, economic guru and former General Manager of the Wu-Tang Clan, recently put in explicit terms the logic behind the 360 in an age of economic uncertainty. The appeal of a 360 to rap artists is even stronger, he noted, because most “will do almost anything to avoid heavy-duty critical thinking and the nuts and bolts of business activity because it saps their energy and free spirit.”


Of course it boggles the mind that the same macho-minded artists, quick to brag out loud about past violent exploits, wouldn’t raise so much as a whimper when jerked by far less threatening executives.


Chuck Creekmur, entrepreneur extraordinaire and co-CEO of AllHipHop.com, was prophetic two years ago when he warned developing artists not to “wait around for a major label to hook you up, because that system is about to be dead in the next 5 [years].” The brand new era bubbling, he explained, would eliminate outright the need for “a label to put your music to the world.” 


I’ve said it before and it begs repeating: There is absolutely nothing an artist, at this stage, requires from a major record label which cannot be done with a small, strong, focused, professional team. With a resourceful publicist, a diligent manager, a new media expert, and God on your side, any artist with requisite talent can still make money off Rap. If you truly believe major labels are still in the business of development, marketing, and promotion there’s a bridge in Brooklyn I’ll be happy to make you an offer in six figures for.


If artists would be courageous enough to admit it, they would find themselves in lockstep with Talib Kweli who complained a couple of years ago that his then-label, Geffen, was “totally inept. They do no marketing, no development. They don't do no work. For them, I was like a tax write-off.”


Rap artists, managers, pioneers, attorneys, elders, critics, and fans must come together to decide what kind of future Hip-Hop entrepreneurship is to morph into. The SellaBand concept is admirable but, in my view, myopic—as it fails to establish any real, non-market based, organic relationship between fan and artist.


Most importantly, rappers would have to come to terms with their future and choose if they prefer to remain captives or captains of their destiny.


I write this editorial under the heavy influence of narcotics (post-surgery medication), so kindly forgive any grogginess; but this is one issue that cannot be left unaddressed.


Tolu Olorunda is a social commentator and a columnist for BlackCommentator.com. He can be reached at: Tolu.Olorunda@gmail.com.


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anyone who believes rappers in their video's or even in their interviews who state they got millions upon millions is damn lier. Point blank, with internet downloading being what it is today, napster, limewire, & any other music/downloading site out there is getting paid underneath the table. Record labels know how to get that cheddar off there artist. Think about it, chamillionaire won a damn award for "Riding dirty" for number one ringtone i think like in 2004 or 2005. how the hell does ringtones become a damn award? thats how you know as an artist that music can not be your only source of income. eminem stated best like in 2000 that he only gets paid .28 cents per cd that he sold. the marshall mathers lp sold like what 8 or 10 million copies & he made .28 cents off each cd sold. granted, thats still some good money to come up off of, but 2.8 million off 10 million cd's sold is bulls**t.
November 9, 2009 11:06 AM
 

MCGeek1 said:

it is just that -  the music BUSINESS and these execs are going to squeeze artists for their intellectual property and their need to perform in order to get the maximum profit they can. The artist is at the mercy of the lawyers and labels.
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November 9, 2009 1:09 PM
 

Sinistah aka Sin Piffcaso said:

Been predicted this about 4-5yrs ago, nukkaz on this very board laughed and tossed insults like "lmao, ya'll n*gg@z ain't Isht, Ya'll Don't Even Have No Deal" and etc. when i spoke of how me and my peeps selling our CD's hand-to-hand at $5 was more profitable than being the newest tax write off for (insert major label here).......

funny how all of a sudden everyone is championing the independent route now vs. the more prestigious alternate.

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November 9, 2009 1:38 PM
 

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November 9, 2009 2:39 PM
 

JACKIEMACC said:

Never - they are too holiwood - and why do they deserve more cash for their jiggabooing? Get the f**k outta here - be forreal - who is saying anything worth fighting for...diamonds, p***y, booty, cars, and hoes - why fight for them to keep putting that s**tin your face - Nope not for me. Never - they ain't going to never fight. Unless it's at one of their concerts.
November 9, 2009 3:12 PM
 

JACKIEMACC said:

as long as the trunk hustle been around and n***as don't know how to get it they don't need to know. Stupid is what stupid does.
November 9, 2009 3:16 PM
 

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November 9, 2009 3:38 PM
 

hotfire82 said:

Good article but I think that the labels and the artists just need to get with the times as CD's are becoming more and more of ancient format. Personally I ain't no critic and this is just my opinion alone I think if your an established artist that has been in the game over 10 yrs then it's time to either create your own label or go independent. I do agree with the author on that point.
November 9, 2009 3:58 PM
 

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November 9, 2009 4:41 PM
 

DarrisHoskins said:

I've personally been working over the last decade to accelerate the major label's obsolescence from a technological perspective.  It's up to the artist now.  If you're serious about weening yourself off the proverbial "tit", holla @ me.

I architect and develop strategies to circumvent the conventional music industry supply/value chain.  I was doing new media way before you could even call it new media.

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November 9, 2009 4:55 PM
 

uberVU - social comments said:

This post was mentioned on Twitter by Rapperbigpooh: Dope article..more people should read it. http://allhiphop.com/stories/editorial/archive/2009/11/09/22019263.aspx
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Jay_Bourne said:

So is the Author suggesting that this type of discrimination only pertains to "Rap artists" or The Rap Genre? I disagree. Everyone is hurting. The degragration of the Hip-Hop movement started way back in the late 90's, before the "Musical Depression" that we know now of today.

My advice:
Any rapper who gets screwed in a sucker deal should not.....

A. Handle their own business, because obviously they need to scrutinize everything in a contract with a fine tooth comb. They obviously need to step their business game up.

B. Hire a Lawyer that you TRUST or can be verifiably independent (no conflict of interests with rec companies etc).

C. Know the business your getting into. Because you can fruity loop, 4 track, drum machine or spit some words doesn't mean you know ANYTHING!!!!!!! Like, learn how to file your taxes......

What pisses me off is that people/editoralists b***h about the megar earnings from records. That practice has been going on for years, much longer than the success of the "Rap" genre. These companies get the product .........EVERYWHERE. So little Tyrone in Bosie Idaho can hear the latest "Soilja Boy" album, its because of the distribution advantage they have. Otherwise, SB would be selling alot of tapes "Out da trunk". Point being, get the hell used to playing on the same playing field as different "artists" in different "genres" or get the hell out of the business.

Marketing Killed hip-hop? No, it did not Sir. Stop playing the "Corporate Vs the Hip-hop world" routine and start living like Hip-Hop belongs in the same genre as other Music. The "Poor Me" attitude, especially after the 15+ years of multi-billion dollar rap sales is what is really bringing Hip-Hop down.
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PapooseJuice said:

okayyy!!! we all know major labels are bulls**t, do some research before you get into the game, not all, jus a lil can help

you can become your own artist, but you will be learnin business n tryin to do music, u can do that, but to learn the complexity of business is no game, economy, business n civilisation, stock market, architecture, real estate, of course you dont have to kno all of this, but it does help you 1 by 1 bit, by bit, but u can always have basic business skills... u can do that, but in fact u want become a 100% dedicated artist, u'll be a business person n an artist... n to become a big artist, u need to be a big business person as well as a big artist
butt labels got connects n skills (something that u'll have to develop if u wanna do it urself), though a lot of majors dont have no soul for ppl n dont kno what the heck they are doin

this is why i am not so much against the business of labels achieving the business of artists, im against these fraudulent majors, really... if u wanna be cool, read the 80 page recording contract n look for preferably an independent label, you'll want them n they'll want u, PRIORITY is important, coz at majors, they have no soul n no priority
November 10, 2009 12:19 AM
 

labor4less.com said:

Honestly to me its something artist need to ban together and march on Washington about.  Cause it doesn't make sense.  Artist are cowards too.  They don't want to get black balled.  I mean actors and so forth don't have the problem because they have trade Unions. Where is the muscian trade Union.  Or people writing up legislation to fix this.  
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I know of no other contractual clause more draconian than the 360 deal. It is the Patriot Act of the recording industry. It effectively robs the artist of any and every opportunity to make money independently—without the major labels’ claws deep into his/her pockets. What it says, with no attempt at equivocation, is, You work for us. Your blood, sweat, and tears are ours. We own you. Now, pay us!
______________________________________________________

It's like a muh-fuka can't even hustle on the side (endorsements, acting cameos, etc) without record companies sticking out their hands.

I don't fully understand the dynamics of the music business, but that just seems like some foul ass shit.
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I agree that if you was gangsta in the hood, strong armin' s**tand what not, how come you can't strong arm these industry dudes. If you a hustla gettin it in, why not get all ya doe when it comes to the industry? Supposedly n***as be in the hood poppin' off for that kind of shit. n***as be measurin' grams and memorizin' the change in currency from state to state wit weight, but can't hustle an industry dude? Its that slave mentality and its really the fake n***as claimin' to be street dudes who make us look bad. Hopefully I can change that. This ain't no ad for me or mines, its a relief for the average real hood dude who raps.
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http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s3  (NBA Jersey)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s76 (Jacket)
November 11, 2009 12:22 PM
 

Tye-Banks said:

I don't blame the LABELS! Sadly I think 360 deals are going to flourish because most rapper don't want to learn the business side of music. THEY JUST WANT TO RAP!

And most fans of hip hop don't understand music business, they're more concern about who is number 1 in their opinion!

But for the artist who do understand. It's hard when you don't have a lot of money. You have to come up with creative ways to market yourself. So that goes back to my 1st point. Most rappers aren't going to to do that.

TO ANY RAPER reading this: READ MORE! Take a business class at your community college if you have too.  
November 11, 2009 12:25 PM
 

Tye-Banks said:

I don't blame the LABELS! Sadly I think 360 deals are going to flourish because most rapper don't want to learn the business side of music. THEY JUST WANT TO RAP!

And most fans of hip hop don't understand music business, they're more concern about who is number 1 in their opinion!

But for the artist who do understand. It's hard when you don't have a lot of money. You have to come up with creative ways to market yourself. So that goes back to my 1st point. Most rappers aren't going to to do that.

TO ANY RAPER reading this: READ MORE! Take a business class at your community college if you have too.  

"Living a Dream"
http://www.TyeBanks.com
November 11, 2009 12:27 PM
 

jacklang0005 said:



http://www.elivebuy.com
Best quality, Best reputation , Best services

J'ai commandé 10 paires de chaussures nike website.and i re?u 7 jours plus tard, mes chaussures

Je suis tellement heureux pour les produits i ordre, parce que les chaussures de l'air très bien, mais à des prix fous 39usd.
est-ce que quelqu'un m'aidera à vérifier le site Web si elles offrent le réel, réel ou non des chaussures.
Je pense qu'ils sont tomber, parce que le prix est si bon marché,
mais toute fa?on, et la qualité des chaussures est grand, j'aime bien les chaussures.

vous pouvez consulter leur site Internet un lien http://www.elivebuy.com

free shipping
competitive price
any size available
accept the paypal

Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33

Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35
Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&g) $35
Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16
Jean(True Religion,ed hardy,coogi) $30
Sunglasses(Oakey,coach,gucci,Armaini) $16
New era cap $15

Bikini (Ed hardy,polo) $25

http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s1   (ED HARDY)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s11  (JEANS)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s6   (TSHIRTS)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s28  (JORDAN SHOES)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s58  (SANDAL)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s65  (HANDBAGS)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s69  (sunglass)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s5    (bikini)
November 11, 2009 10:42 PM
 

weitengrong321 said:

welcome to: http://www.ustradebuy.com
The website wholesale for many kinds of fashion shoes, like the nike,jorda-n,prada,ad-idas, also
including the jeans,shir-ts,bags,ha-t and the decorations. All the products are free shipping, and the the
price is competitive, and also can accept the paypal payment.,after the payment, can ship within short
time.


free shipping
competitive price
anyzsize available
accept the paypal
jordan shoes       $32
nike shox          $32
Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33
Ed Hardy Bikini $23
Smful short_t-shirt_woman     $15
handbag    $33
christian louboutin $80

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s70 (t-shirt)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s5  (Timberland)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s12 (jordan)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s14 (DUNK)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s29 (air max)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s32 (women boot)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s75 (Jean)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s69 (handbags)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s3  (NBA Jersey)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s76 (Jacket)
November 12, 2009 9:22 AM
 

jacklang0005 said:



http://www.elivebuy.com
Best quality, Best reputation , Best services

J'ai commandé 10 paires de chaussures nike website.and i re?u 7 jours plus tard, mes chaussures

Je suis tellement heureux pour les produits i ordre, parce que les chaussures de l'air très bien, mais à des prix fous 39usd.
est-ce que quelqu'un m'aidera à vérifier le site Web si elles offrent le réel, réel ou non des chaussures.
Je pense qu'ils sont tomber, parce que le prix est si bon marché,
mais toute fa?on, et la qualité des chaussures est grand, j'aime bien les chaussures.

vous pouvez consulter leur site Internet un lien http://www.elivebuy.com

free shipping
competitive price
any size available
accept the paypal

Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33

Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35
Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&g) $35
Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16
Jean(True Religion,ed hardy,coogi) $30
Sunglasses(Oakey,coach,gucci,Armaini) $16
New era cap $15

Bikini (Ed hardy,polo) $25

http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s1   (ED HARDY)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s11  (JEANS)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s6   (TSHIRTS)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s28  (JORDAN SHOES)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s58  (SANDAL)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s65  (HANDBAGS)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s69  (sunglass)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s5    (bikini)
November 12, 2009 9:53 AM
 

weitengrong321 said:

welcome to: http://www.ustradebuy.com
The website wholesale for many kinds of fashion shoes, like the nike,jorda-n,prada,ad-idas, also
including the jeans,shir-ts,bags,ha-t and the decorations. All the products are free shipping, and the the
price is competitive, and also can accept the paypal payment.,after the payment, can ship within short
time.


free shipping
competitive price
anyzsize available
accept the paypal
jordan shoes       $32
nike shox          $32
Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33
Ed Hardy Bikini $23
Smful short_t-shirt_woman     $15
handbag    $33
christian louboutin $80


http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s4    (NBA Jersey)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s14   (JORDAN SHOES)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s72  (TSHIRTS)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s77  (JEANS)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s31  (AIR MAX)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s71  (HANDBAGS)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s59  (sunglass)
November 16, 2009 10:02 AM
 

elivebuykk said:



http://www.elivebuy.com
Best quality, Best reputation , Best services

J'ai commandé 10 paires de chaussures nike website.and i re?u 7 jours plus tard, mes chaussures

Je suis tellement heureux pour les produits i ordre, parce que les chaussures de l'air très bien, mais à des prix fous 39usd.
est-ce que quelqu'un m'aidera à vérifier le site Web si elles offrent le réel, réel ou non des chaussures.
Je pense qu'ils sont tomber, parce que le prix est si bon marché,
mais toute fa?on, et la qualité des chaussures est grand, j'aime bien les chaussures.

vous pouvez consulter leur site Internet un lien http://www.elivebuy.com

free shipping
competitive price
any size available
accept the paypal

Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33

Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35
Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&g) $35
Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16
Jean(True Religion,ed hardy,coogi) $30
Sunglasses(Oakey,coach,gucci,Armaini) $16
New era cap $15

Bikini (Ed hardy,polo) $25

http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s1   (ED HARDY)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s11  (JEANS)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s6   (TSHIRTS)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s28  (JORDAN SHOES)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s58  (SANDAL)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s65  (HANDBAGS)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s69  (sunglass)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s5    (bikini)
November 16, 2009 10:09 AM
 

weitengrong321 said:

welcome to: http://www.ustradebuy.com
The website wholesale for many kinds of fashion shoes, like the nike,jorda-n,prada,ad-idas, also
including the jeans,shir-ts,bags,ha-t and the decorations. All the products are free shipping, and the the
price is competitive, and also can accept the paypal payment.,after the payment, can ship within short
time.


free shipping
competitive price
anyzsize available
accept the paypal
jordan shoes       $32
nike shox          $32
Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33
Ed Hardy Bikini $23
Smful short_t-shirt_woman     $15
handbag    $33
christian louboutin $80


http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s4    (NBA Jersey)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s14   (JORDAN SHOES)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s72  (TSHIRTS)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s77  (JEANS)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s31  (AIR MAX)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s71  (HANDBAGS)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s59  (sunglass)
November 17, 2009 9:17 AM
 

elivebuykk said:



http://www.elivebuy.com
Best quality, Best reputation , Best services

J'ai commandé 10 paires de chaussures nike website.and i re?u 7 jours plus tard, mes chaussures

Je suis tellement heureux pour les produits i ordre, parce que les chaussures de l'air très bien, mais à des prix fous 39usd.
est-ce que quelqu'un m'aidera à vérifier le site Web si elles offrent le réel, réel ou non des chaussures.
Je pense qu'ils sont tomber, parce que le prix est si bon marché,
mais toute fa?on, et la qualité des chaussures est grand, j'aime bien les chaussures.

vous pouvez consulter leur site Internet un lien http://www.elivebuy.com

free shipping
competitive price
any size available
accept the paypal

Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33

Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35
Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&g) $35
Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16
Jean(True Religion,ed hardy,coogi) $30
Sunglasses(Oakey,coach,gucci,Armaini) $16
New era cap $15

Bikini (Ed hardy,polo) $25

http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s1   (ED HARDY)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s11  (JEANS)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s6   (TSHIRTS)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s28  (JORDAN SHOES)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s58  (SANDAL)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s65  (HANDBAGS)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s69  (sunglass)
http://www.elivebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s5    (bikini)
November 17, 2009 10:39 PM
 

elivebuykk said:



http://www.9elife.com
Best quality, Best reputation , Best services

J'ai commandé 10 paires de chaussures nike website.and i re?u 7 jours plus tard, mes chaussures

Je suis tellement heureux pour les produits i ordre, parce que les chaussures de l'air très bien, mais à des prix fous 39usd.
est-ce que quelqu'un m'aidera à vérifier le site Web si elles offrent le réel, réel ou non des chaussures.
Je pense qu'ils sont tomber, parce que le prix est si bon marché,
mais toute fa?on, et la qualité des chaussures est grand, j'aime bien les chaussures.

vous pouvez consulter leur site Internet un lien http://www.9elife.com

free shipping
competitive price
any size available
accept the paypal

Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33

Nike shox(R4,NZ,OZ,TL1,TL2,TL3) $35
Handbags(Coach lv fendi d&g) $35
Tshirts (Polo ,ed hardy,lacoste) $16
Jean(True Religion,ed hardy,coogi) $30
Sunglasses(Oakey,coach,gucci,Armaini) $16
New era cap $15

Bikini (Ed hardy,polo) $25

http://www.9elife.com/productlist.asp?id=s1   (ED HARDY)
http://www.9elife.com/productlist.asp?id=s11  (JEANS)
http://www.9elife.com/productlist.asp?id=s6   (TSHIRTS)
http://www.9elife.com/productlist.asp?id=s28  (JORDAN SHOES)
http://www.9elife.com/productlist.asp?id=s58  (SANDAL)
http://www.9elife.com/productlist.asp?id=s65  (HANDBAGS)
http://www.9elife.com/productlist.asp?id=s69  (sunglass)
http://www.9elife.com/productlist.asp?id=s5    (bikini)
November 18, 2009 9:22 AM
 

weitengrong321 said:

welcome to: http://www.ustradebuy.com
The website wholesale for many kinds of fashion shoes, like the nike,jorda-n,prada,ad-idas, also
including the jeans,shir-ts,bags,ha-t and the decorations. All the products are free shipping, and the the
price is competitive, and also can accept the paypal payment.,after the payment, can ship within short
time.


free shipping
competitive price
anyzsize available
accept the paypal
jordan shoes       $32
nike shox          $32
Air jordan(1-24)shoes $33
Ed Hardy Bikini $23
Smful short_t-shirt_woman     $15
handbag    $33
christian louboutin $80


http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s4    (NBA Jersey)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s14   (JORDAN SHOES)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s72  (TSHIRTS)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s77  (JEANS)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s31  (AIR MAX)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s71  (HANDBAGS)

http://www.ustradebuy.com/productlist.asp?id=s59  (sunglass)
November 18, 2009 9:38 AM
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