KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

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robz_914 — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:01:54 GMT

i respect all the lengends in the game and if he perfer's 50 over kanye then thats his opinion....

DON'T START HATIN ON KRS CUZ HE LIKE 50 CENT BETTER.

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straitup — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:02:52 GMT

if you respect krs one u lawst.

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MRMIDUFINGA — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:02:27 GMT

i agree 100 percent i liked Curtis way more than Graduation

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CurtissKing — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:15:00 GMT

See? I knew there was more to that bogus ass rumor of KRS dissing Kanye. If KRS wanted to diss somebody we all know how he goes about things. A couple of apperances on Beef 5 and 6, a random diss song produced by Marley Marl. lol. The usual. However PREACH brotha KRS.

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Deuces — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:18:56 GMT

ok doggie krs the teacha is buggin lol he said he aint diss kanye lol with copyin his lyrics sayin "flashing lights, cameras action" lol but he chooses 50 and TI which goes to show that he prefers more gangsta shit then kanye's style of rap... but somebody shouldve asked what did he think of the state of hip hop since hes one of the most respected today...

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Gentle Jones — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:28:03 GMT

this piece is a testament as to why krs one remains relevant, the dude is sharp as a tack after how many years? did you all see him brand 50 on the television in front of the world? "guide us not into temptation" this is spontaneous thought with reach and longevity.

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peace and respect.

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ARSUN FiST — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:29:56 GMT

KRS hit on some good points, but what stuck out to me was his statement on balance...balance is so underrated right now when it comes to hip-hop...

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slimturk — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:35:55 GMT

This is so true....50 cents album does actually sound really hard for them cruising days...i know i have said i dont klike kany west album in older posts...but i have taken some time to listen to the kanye west album....i dont reallyconsider it all that much hiphop related to be honest....something like hmm...not hiphop but another genre of music....i dont know though....both albums are good money making for both artists....we will see what the over all sales are after they do there tour of europe and make millions of POUNDS and EURO's....Now thats more money...

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waterproof — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:44:51 GMT

Yo props to KRS-1 he is in the top 10 for greatest emcee of all times, but all of a sudden his gun goes pop again, i thought after the late great Scott La Rock died he aint wit the glock go pop

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KingOfEngland — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:18:39 GMT

wateva man, Kanye West beats 50 cent all day in my opinion, he's a creative dude, i think i can get ova a million soundin gangster rappers even more maybe, old school soulja slimm is much better gangsta rap, pac, biggie still better, not much has moved on, its like Kanye is da only commercial rapper makin hip hop interestin cuz he is gettin da big bugets and backin, another is MF DOOM legend in his own right, apart from dat cant really say much bought U.S hip hop apart from Nas, Jay-z, Edan (better den Eminem as a white boy)

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groovetone94 — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:24:03 GMT

YOOOOO!!! i've been following KRS for a while and i still bump his joints...I got my young dudes bumpin his criminal minded sh*t...I agree with him 100 abt kanye appealing to the women...Kanye's a beast but his music is more for the females..if im on my porch and i catch 2 dudes ridin by in the car listening to that 50 i wouldn't raise and eye as much as i would if they were listening to Kanye...that's just me...it's all good music though..I said a month ago that hip hop wasnt dead and that it's all good...

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GameTime33409 — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:44:31 GMT

F__K that man Graduation is Hip Hop and it is a classic album so im not even worried about KRS-ONE!! Kanye is here now and he is the FUTURE!!!!

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h_town_playa — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 12:59:27 GMT

i like what krs one is saying. First of all, i haven't heard 50's album. I like kanye's. but when krs one was talking about who is the one taking actions with their meoney to better their community, you also have to remember that those who rap about the better things in life, influences those who listen to do the same. that is the difference. Jay z is a prime example. he has taken some action to better his community, or atleast africa that i know of with the water well bullsh**. but there is no "good" in his lyrics. He is not motivating anyone to be a good business man like himself. He's just talking some fly ass sh** and not helping anybody advance in this world,except for those that work in his company, such as kanye. think about that mr. KRS one. I think you still haven't matured your damn self. Cause nobody is really taking action (their time,not money) to better their community in the hip hop other than mos def, ludacris, bun b and maybe a few others that i can't remember the name right. some H-town rappers is always doing something out here to be honest. but that's an h-town thang. southern hospitality. master p will be the first to make a real change

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dabusinessss — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:16:12 GMT

I pretty much agree with KRS. I'm not a big fan of 50 or Kanye. With that said, I feel they are both OVERRATED! But I feel Kanye is more overrated because of the accolades and comparisons he receives. You know what you getting from 50 each time and it is what it is. If i'm in the mood I can pump some 50. Kanye on the other hand. He's not that impressive. His flow is ok, his lyrical content is way overrated, and his rhyme schemes are basic. All that is ok, but somehow he is regarded as something more. Both are ok and have shined at certain times...But what frustrates me is Kanye is constantly compared to people like Talib, Mos, and Common. Even KRS made that mistake. Kanye isn't even close to being the emcee that these guys are. Kanye is good at what HE does, but it doesn't compare and it's not on the same level lyrically as the aformentioned emcees. Sometimes I get the feeling that kanye does things to be different for the sake of being different.

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HoodProphet — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:19:11 GMT

Once again KRS1 is spitting that shit. That real people. I have to co-sign waht he says. Its a real controversial issue cause I dont agree with a lot of what 50 Cent be doing but at the same time I dont agree with that billshit Kanye be pulling either.

All in all I think KRS had a lot of points in this interview and it makes me do a little thinking. Which makes is thought provoking aka "worthy of reading".

The dummy down niggas should take note of that

-HP

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HoodProphet — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:30:39 GMT

people fukkin stupid I swear. All Imma say is respect KRS. Yall need to actually conceptualize what the fuk he saying before just glancing over his thoughts and then commenting.

Dude said a lot of real shit in that interview. Some of yall niggas need to run off a cliff...

Or on a more constructive note:

Read a book nigga, a fukkin book niggas (said with that BET commercial in mind)

I aint banning the n-word as long as niggas still exist out here!

With that said, I Love My Black People!

But like Jadakiss said, "I Hate Niggas!!"

-HP

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KingOfEngland — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 13:56:25 GMT

@HoodProphet

no dats wat Chris Rock said, but i agree with da above (every ting else u said)

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jaeda — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:13:50 GMT

I think Kanye had a better album than the Curtis album. But I rather listen to lets say Lox, Papoose, dipset(excluding jim jones), type of music than the type of hip-hop kanye puts out. Yeah Kanye puts out hot, positive music, but im just a fan of that raw hip-hop.

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something like O-Dog — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:13:54 GMT

THANK YOU KRS1. ive been saying this since the albums dropped. in my opinion graduation was wack. that cd puts me to sleep. give me a turkey sandwich and a copy of the graduation and i would be in a comma. to me it seems that he spent more time on the art work then his lyrics. i seriously think kanye out sold 50 on the backing of 50 haters.

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HIPHOPHEAD74 — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:16:50 GMT

I think KRS ONE made some good points but I only like 5 songs from 50cent album like he said they was rappin not hiphop.Kanye album is better to me.

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Crippled Seedz — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:36:26 GMT

I feel what KRS-One said! Back in the dayz when Hammer and Vanilla Ice came out we (the Hip Hop community) didn't respect it. We rather listen to the Gas Face from Third Base. So record sells didn't get respect from true Hip Hop Artist. I agree Kanye does represent Hip Hop because being yourself is Hip Hop. But I feel he represents the Metrosexuals and me being born and raise in New York I can't feel that! 50 cent won in my eyes.

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SagNasty989 — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:44:34 GMT

See that's the shit I'm talkin bout. KRS1 we know you a legend alright dude...you the shit mane...even my hip-hop professor discuss about your work..BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN you more interested in your gun going boom? so that's what the teacha is all about now? oh ok. so fuck all the positive shit you was about...oh and The Amusement Park, was for the fellas too I guess..yeah, we think of the Teacha when Amusement Park come on...fuck outta here..dude just wanna be objective that's all and get some attention..i mean damn who is the next NON new yorker in line to be successful in the game that this nigga gone hate on...oh wait I can refer to you as "nigga" right krs1? remember you only relate to street shit. matta fact since krs1 relate to only the streerts then he should by two copies of guccie mane and two copies of yung jeezy new joints..fuck outta here

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HoodProphet — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:47:16 GMT

@kingofengland

No, I know Chris Rock said it but Jadakiss said it too after one of his freestyles.

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SHWELL — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:49:11 GMT

All you dumbasses chiming in about which album you thought was better; either did not read the article or are just tooo damn stupid to comprehend what he is saying... Read it again, until it dawns on you that he has a prefference to the styles of music, but he did not intend for it to be perceived as hating on Kanye... Diff people like diff things, and Hip Hop has many perspectives to cover... And that it does.... The albums have been on the arket for weeks now, and we have yet to figure out that all the hype was for marketing and promo..... They were working together on this shit, and we fell for it....... Let's move on and cont.. enjoying Hip Hop for what it is....

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disconnexions — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 14:55:26 GMT

Ladies and gentlemen, it's the media (both large and small) that feed off of "beef" and keep trying to separate and label Hip-Hop music. Back in the days we had songs like "The Message" and songs like "The Show" and they both could rock. I grew up and listened to artists like KRS-1 and Rakim, but I also would play 2 Live Crew and NWA. Can you imagine what would happen if all we heard on the raido was 2 Live Crew songs?? As much as I love X-Clan, nobody wants to hear their songs all day either. It's the balance of each genre getting their songs played and vidoe shown on BET and MTV that made our music more relevant.

Never let a bunch of people that don't know the history of our music tell you what is real and what's not. They did it with Rock & Roll, and now they're trying it with rap music.

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mike_dachamp08 — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:04:02 GMT

simply put damn... the boy KRS is so on point. BALANCE is the key. its not all about just gangsta, just lyrics, just dancing, just the beats, or just being conscious. its about all that. thats SOUF, East coast, WEst, and Mid west. granted right now the game over saturated wit alot of bull (dont get it twisted i am SOUF- Tampa stand up) but like i said alot of bull ish going on. but we need the balance. we know its there in the underground game. cuz u search for what u wanna hear yaself. but the mainstream radio game needs balance and we should demand it. WE being hip hop not the american public. thats all i been saying and gotta say.

lemme get my ass back to work

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mu$h da great — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:04:33 GMT

what has 50 cent done to preserve hip hop seriously? he would be the first person to tell you he is soley out to get paid. had krs one said something negative about him do think that he iz gone really give a fuck. hell make a song/songs about him & continue gettin his money. krs one is intellegent brother & I respect his oppinion but in no way are his views going to sway mine. he makes a few valid points regarding record sales, public america purchasing albums,& balancing hip hop but jus because he is a hip hop icon that does not make him right. he says that he wasn't disrespecting kanye but he feels like hiz music Is geared toward females. that ninja aint makin no ll who do you love, ja rule put it on me, candyshop amusement park type shit now iz he. whether you like hiz style or not if you listen to the graduation the songz are not geared towards any specific gender its just soulful creative music. I would never let any other mutherfucker other me determine what the fuck ima listen too in my car, I don't care wher the fuck I'm ridin through or going too I bang what the fuck I feel like hearing. I know everybody iz bent on bringing the east back specifically new york but ninjas from new york are not the only people capable of making good hip hop music. I think thats where a lot of this regional hating in the urban music industry stems from. if hip hop iz dead than new york being the origin place of hip hop they should be doing something about that instead of criticizing other movements.

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Shalom — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:05:57 GMT

I respect KRS One as a Hip-Hop artist, but sometimes his opinions are full of shit.

Graduation related to more women than men???

Wow…from what I remembered 50 has more songs towards women than Kanye.

Dude’s thoughts are mad shaky.

He criticizes Nelly but praises Curtis???

He preaches “Stop The Violence” but says “nigga my gun go off!”

KRS is a funny dude.

HOWEVER

I do agree with the second part of the editorial when he wants artists to be held accountable for their actions.

Peace

-Shalom

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MD-2-BX VIA I95 — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:06:31 GMT

KRS nows what the hell he is talking about.

I think I have said some of the same things he has on this site... Mainly 50 and Kanye..

I guess Great Mind are from the BRONX!

But wait.... It was created there

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anomali_ygb — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:19:51 GMT

i agree withn krs-one on what the artist do with the money as far as giving back to the community by building and creating things that will be able to help the people in a positive way over time.
But it's graduation 4 me all day, it appeals to people in the gutta trying to survive and do better in life and also to people with success enjoying life. I listened to curtis and i can't relate to the gun talk, we've lost too many people to gun violence so i can't support that. i like my gangsta ish now, but its like 50 got lazy on this cd and instead of using metaphors and symbolism 4 the music he just kept it basic. it's just like that old school music when marvin gaye would be talking about sex it was cool because he was saying "lets get it on" but now it's just "lets fu** and have sex."
4 example snoop and dre made it cool back in the day talking about a 187, but now 50 uses the same subject matter and is like i'll murder cops with my gun. Plus 50's music aint real anymore, he needs to find the balance between his g.r.o.d.t. days and where he is now in life. I like 50 cents so i can respect i get money, ayo technology, and some of the other joints i liked from curtis but i can't take all his music serious when i know it's not genuine.

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FEBword — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:30:52 GMT

Fuck GameTime33409! Make a note of it! How are you going to diss your Father? KRS#1 said what he feels in a respectful manner. Kanya is Hiphop and I feel he has a better album.
Yo GameTime33409. Did you say (Fuck Pimp C) when he dissed Jezzy? Get your mind right.
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mu$h da great — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:36:10 GMT

like I said krs is a smart dude but sometimes I think he jus does shit for attention & like shalom stated earlier he contradicts hisself.

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Demsky — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:44:44 GMT

At first I thought KRS has lost his mind but like he said he wanted more boom bap i cant agree about the beats and the rhymes the best shit i heard from him in years was "I'm leaving" but like most people said thats his opinion to me Curtis is trash for the false bravado and the sing songing of his whole shit I respect Kanye shit a little more because at least you know every album every song he exposes a piece of himself the game need more of that sometimes shit me I'm tired of these rappers lying to the public about what they do they gun go off they got that white girl etc. etc. look its cool to spit that shit sometimes in different ways but come on if you already went one tow times plat and your next album either did the same or is on its way when the fuck do you have time to do this shit promos tours studio time radio shows tv shows.

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Demsky — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:49:06 GMT

I respect Krs opinion just cant agree he must where trifocals to see the growth of 50 from candy shop to amusement park seems like that dude stuck in neutral but again we all entitled to our own opinion thats why we people and not some big ass drone brain like radio would like to program you to be.
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lookadeez — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 15:51:47 GMT

KRS is so full of shit and if you follow his history you know this already. He's a great MC, one of the best ever, but full of shit nonetheless. Right now, that was nothing more than a ploy to try to get down with 50 cent and the access he is perceived to have, just like he brown nosed him all over rap city. He has always been full of shit and his the steady downslide of his principles is just evidence of it.

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Streetweyez Sayles — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 16:46:32 GMT

I respect KRS-One, but I completely disagree with him. Kanye is a much better artist, he experiments a lot with the sound and he is not AFRAID to take the music to places where most rappers would not dare for fear of tarnishing their image. 50 Cent on the other hand came hard on Get Rich or Die Tryin, everything else after that has been less than stellar.

Now KRS-One can be bias towards NYC all he wants. His most relevant statement was that that Hip Hop is universal. Since it is universal the axis that controls the sphere of influence will shift. The foundation is in New York City, but like all cultural movements there is an evolution and ultimately "migration". That is why I wasn't mad at the South. I simply hate that gimmicky as shit they got going on down there. The real Hip Hop in Atlanta, like KILLER MIKE (who has always been cold as fuck on the mic) is struggling to break through because of that bubble gum pop snap your fingers shit hop they keep putting out.

50 Cent is a guy who stole another person's name, persona, and street story only to sell his records to millions of white kids that actually believe his fairy tales. Today he wants people to believe that he is the roughest thing to come out of Jamaica Queens, but like his old song, "I DON"T BELIEVE YOU!!!"

KRS needs to come better than that. I respect the emcee that expresses his philosophy and life first and foremost. If you are going to chronicle someone else's life then give them PROPER CREDIT. Enough with the wack gimmicks. The teacher is a student too and he is about growth. That is why I respect KRS. So peace to KRS-One, "Curtis Jackson" ( because he is one cold ass business man I respect Curtis hustle not the 50 Cent persona), Kanye West and Hip Hop in general.

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Da Mayor Dick Daley — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:03:26 GMT

KRS is one of my top 7 emcees PERIOD, but come on man! What the fk is 50 Cent doin to enrich or uplift the hip hop community and the black community as a whole? His concept was right, but his logic and facts were way off.

Kanye did more with his "george bush doesn't care about black people" comment than anything 50 ever says. And I like 50 Cent interviews cuz he aint a stupid nikka either. But I just feel that nigga has so much power that he could use to mobilize black folks, and all he does is talk about g shit likes he's still in the streets. Are you serious Kris? Call it like it is, neither of them nikkas really care about noone but themselves 1st 2nd and 3rd. You picked a strange way to distinguish between Kanye and 50. Just say you liked Curtis better and keep it movin. You are a very articulate 'teacha' but sometimes you just get it wrong.

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K.A.K. DEUCE — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 17:52:43 GMT

ANYBODY ON THIS PIECE NOT FEELIN THA BLASTMASTER KRS-ONE THA WHOLE TIME IS F*CKIN STUPID! HE SPEAKS THAT REAL AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY U CAN'T COMPREHEND IT. HE SAID HE CAN RELATE TO 50s MUSIC BECAUSE THAT'S THE BACKGROUND HE COMES FROM. SO WHILE YALL CALLIN HIM A HYPOCRITE MAYBE YOU DO UR DAMN RESEARCH AND LISTEN TO NOT ONLY HIS SONGS BUT HIS SONG AND ALBUM TITLES (I.E. "CRIMINAL MINDED"). YEAH HE'S THE TEACHER BUT HE'S ALWAYS BEEN ON SUM STREET SH*T. MAYBE YALL JUST GOT HIP TO HIM WHEN SELF DESTRUCTION CAME OUT OR SOMETHIN BUT I REMEMBER THAT 100% STREET SH*T COMIN FROM BDP.

AND HE WAS RIGHT KANYE AIN'T HIP HOP, HE'S MORE LIKE POP OR SUM SH*T. HE MAKES DAMN GOOD MUSIC BUT LIKE KRS I'D MUCH RATHER HEAR SOME REAL SH*T THAN SUM LIL COCKY F*GGOT LIKE KANYE ANYDAY.

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Demsky — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 18:41:10 GMT

Crippled Seedz said:I agree Kanye does represent Hip Hop because being yourself is Hip Hop. But I feel he represents the Metrosexuals and me being born and raise in New York I can't feel that! 50 cent won in my eyes.

Who came up with that metrosexual shit white people. That shit relate to them who carry purses and where make up. Just the fact that you feel like that kinda suspect. we talkin bout lyrical integrity
you talking bout they style imma ask you when you go to a show
would you rather see a nigga with his shirt on or off who is 50 representing with that. Lyrics innovation honesty brash fuck style i don't give a fuck if both the niggas came out rappin in footie pajamas would still fuck with them if what they sayin enticed me.

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copper county — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 19:44:58 GMT

just reading the comments amd there was good points made but until we realize that hiphop iz to big to ignore as far as a voice for not only urban communities but now america in general everything will stay fucked up as soon jena 6 happened both of them should have sat down in front of the camera asked for peace for them brothers.....if you have the public stage to speak out on issues you should do it..But naw you wanna talk about ur gun goin off and fuckin drunk and hot girls when is this shit gonna stop...

oh and big up to master p for makin a stand

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p-thizzle — Tue, 09 Oct 2007 21:09:15 GMT

50 album had more songs for females than kanyes so i dont know what he's talking bout krs-1 might a legend but hes a hatter he hated on nelly and it seemed like he was light wait hating on kanye since when is gun talk hip-hop thats shit is gangsta rap 50 tries to get the hood and white folks on his side but it aint happening people tired of that fake music we want real music and thats why kanye out sold 50 50's last album 1.1 mil first week this time 691,000 kanyes last 862,000 this one 957,000 to me 50 and the g-unit is over rated and people see that now and for krs-1 to like that crap he is a hiporcite liking violent music bout guns when i thought he was trying to preach non violence now he rather bump that shit in his car than that real hip-hop he needs to admit that he dont like kanye or nelly cuz they are selling millions with out that gansta shit plus didnt he say in a song with kanye nas rakeem that rap spits rymes that are neagitive and illegal hip-hip spit rymes to up life our people fuck krs-1 hes needs to get real peace!

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Don Blake — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:30:52 GMT

i agree with KRS. Lupe just showed you guys how much these "creative " "Artists" give a fuck about hiphop. Kanye's a little different, but to an extent i see where krs is coming from. Don't worry he'll change his mind next week anyway.

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Boss Up — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 13:35:12 GMT

I think KRS is on 50's payroll

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Layne90043 — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 14:20:47 GMT

........MY OPINION........MY OPINION........MY OPINION........MY OPINION

....like the reporter i too was shocked at KRS1's response. To me HipHop is about truth...about honesty...about fun, teaching, really about real shit. And Kanye i think relates to more of us wether we want to admit it or not....thats why he sold more...but its not about sales. i dont think 50 is doing ANYTHING innovative....anything worth any truth...anything uplifting people. Wait til i get my money right...the inner battle we have with ourselves to do whats right, but still rock gucci and jewelry...wanting the better things in life while fighting with your inner self about material possessions...we all go thru it. recognizing that youre a champion...you can do what you put your mind too...we all debate more about that than about killing a nigga or wearing a vest when you one, not in the hood...and second, are so paid and successful that we all know youre TOTALLY removed fom that lifestyle. Believe it or not we do appreciate growth in hiphop and 50 hasnt grown or provided shit for hiphop...his 1st album is like his last, aint nothin changed but the title...he doesnt try...and not just him, alotta these artist dont grow. you came out when u was 19 and im to believe at 25 after tours and videos and money u still bustin your guns, killin niggas, selling weight, making caps, baggin up weed, sellin dimes lol...im to think that??? u dont even have time for that shit!!! at least Kanye gives an effort...at least he seems like he cares...he appreciates me as a listener, 50 dont give a fugg he feed us shit we eat it...Kanye give u steak, you scared to taste it...

even KRS1...he went from criminal minded to tha teacha....even HE grew...he became someone else....he realized the importance of another option in hiphop...he became a man, not on the same stuff he was as a kid...so being one of those kids that grew up on it too....paid attention to the phases of hiphop, seen it change, the phases of KRS and artist like him who have simply grown up...im not hiphop bcz i dont do the same shit i used to? im not hiphop bcz i graduated? oh i get it hiphop is only for illegal niggas on the corner and for bitches wit a gang of kids who dont give a fugg about shit....hmmm guess im not hiphop...or would i be hiphop if i went back and braged about the shit I USED TO DO like im still doing it??? basically spreadin lies to the people???
I guess we appointed him but maybe we give him too much credit as our spokesperson...like he makes the rules in hiphop. i respect dude 3789012% but i mean hiphop changes so much you cant diss someone who is different. if he cant even stay relevant in the music market who are you to tell me whats hiphop and whats not bcz the obvious opinion from the fans WHO REALLY DICTATE WHAT IS AND WHAT ISNT is that Kanye is hiphop...i think he opnly around bcz us folks that remember him keep him around...KRS, you are bcz we allow you to be...dont take advantage of that...

........MY OPINION........MY OPINION........MY OPINION........MY OPINION

and ps....50 caters to women waaaayyy more than Kanye does, dude KRS1 mannnnnnn, u soundin silly

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groovetone94 — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:03:48 GMT

of course
soldia boy is hip hop...fags just be hatin cause he
from the south...can't stop it though...we gonna keep
the game for a while whether people like it or
not..plus it's dance music...disco was dance music and
hip hop started from disco...if this dance hop that we
do down south aint hip hop then neither is the PEE-WEE
HERMAN(JOESKI LOVE) THE BIZ DANCE(BIZ) WE GETTIN
FUNKY(KID&PLAY), THE STEVE MARTIN(EPMD), or THE WILD,
WILD, WEST (KOOL MOE DEE)... But all in all you must
respect a (KRS) dude who's been there from the
beginning...How you gonna got off to battle for the
first time and tell a VET he don't know his shit..

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tha clear — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 16:02:38 GMT

Krs is a legend in the game. I have not heard curtis to make an opinion about it. I stopped checking for fiddy's music after GRODT. I heard graduation and honestly it didn't make me want to rewind it and play it over and over but I enjoyed what I heard.

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westbankmarrero — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 17:14:02 GMT

how could u say hip hop is about innovation and being creative, yet think curtis is a good album. that shit is just like his last album. that nigga got 3 types of songs, 1.gun and drug talk, 2.songs for the females, 3.club songs. I know if it aint broke, then dont fix it, but that doesn't apply to hip hop. U gotta stay fresh and try new concepts. I can understand if 50 was actually a "lyrical" cat but he isn't. His flow is basic and he has shown no growth since his debut. I guess niggas gonna say im hating but that is the reality of it. People get tired of the same shit after a while.

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da bul Reef — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:42:53 GMT

FUCK KRS!!! HE'S AN OLD FUCKN HATER!!! HE CONTRADICTS HIMSELF EVERY WEEK. DIDNT 50 CENT SAY HE STOPPED LISTENING 2 KRS CUZ DAT NIGGA WAS CONFUSING HIM AND HOW HE LOST MOST PEOPLE WIT DAT TEACHER BULLSHIT!! SO HOW KRS RIDING HIS DICK??? FUCK KRS AND ANYBODY ELSE ON HERE CO-SIGNIN HIM!! AND FUCK BOSS UP 2, LOL!!!

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IronHorse — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:57:53 GMT

What kills me is the ammount of niggas who find any reason to disagree with KRS.
This nigga has more right to speak on hip hop than anybody. Like his song said "I was there"...were you? iight then...
I liked both joints for different reasons but I find it very homo to disect 2 albums just because the fans of today are fuckin stupid.
You USED to be able to buy shit without having to explain yourself, or pick & choose. What if I just like both albums, *gasp* heaven forbid...
I bought 'paid in full'(EricB/Rakim) just like I bought 'rock the house' (jazzy jeff/Fresh prince) and there was no BLOG dedicated to it....
Aside from my personal taste, 50's album is waaaay more hood, any nigga online aint gonna tell me shit else, fuck what you know, where you from etc. 50's album is NYC to the bone, its harder, the beats are harder, I could care less what you think NYC is aside from videos and rap songs. NYC/KRS will relate to 50 everytime and not just cause he's from there, that what NYC is, aggressive. The south is laid back so all the beats are as such, they dont need aggresive music in the south like New yorkers do. ATL is hardly an aggressive city. NYC & ATL are like night & day. alot of you WISH that wasnt so but...gotta go with the facts not opinions here...(shout to the A)...
No nigga in the game will or can prove 50 aint what he say he is or it woulda happened 10 times already! no nigga could march into jamaica (QU) and make the hood stop respecting 50's grind just cause your sick of him.
50 put it in on the streets and alot of ya'll niggas cant stand it. You wanna think 50 is fronting. You wanna think 50 is a fake. You wanna think 50 is anything negative cause your sick of the nigga winning, admit that shit man.
At least the nigga is consistent with his gun talk. at least respect that shit. You'd be creative with your hate if he turned in Malcom X overnight anyway...
And yeah he took his name from a stick up kid, so fuckin what...
His rep is iron clad on the streets, none of ya'll niggas could change that shit if you wanted too. stop watching so many DVDs and actually walk the streets man...
If jeezy for example gets signed to interscope or ANY major for that matter as an artist just like 50,with his own lifestory guess what...its not just gonna just target the hood. The machine, aka GLOBAL marketing will take it from here to china. Thats what it is man its the buisness.
The hood is the hood and no hidden nigga online could change that, get real, this is what KRS-1 relates too, THE HOOD, no more no less. I coulda swore he made that shit perfectly clear.
he didnt say nothing about I like 50 cause he's from New York.
I cant stand ya'll new niggas with this out of the blue anti new york bullshit. fuck all ya'll hatin ass niggas online with your fly by night trends. The south got the industry, fans and videos behind em and niggas still find any and every excuse to blame NYC.
And when KRS said my gun go off he was talkin about the 50 song, not I shoot niggas now,lol, like when he said good life, and then notice the quotation marks...genius.
Man ya'll are eager!
Kanye's albums are always organic. NYC or wherever he's from dont got shit to do with shit cause chi-town is just as real as any other hood.
Kanye's joint is softer but its gonna take you somewhere and say something, Thats what kanye knows, he mother is a college professor, c'mon man... 50 aint nothing remotely close to that shit coming up.
50's album is processed. Both are commercial but kanye is experimental, 50 is apart of the "machine" just like kanye but kanye doesnt have a large expectation or bar to set like 50 does so he can try new shit, he can afford too and it always pays off.
Each 50 album HAS to be better than the last or its over.period. ITS POP, AKA THE MACHINE. When your pop thats what they do, thats all they do build you up to tear you down. get with it.
I like kanye's album better personally cause the beats and it grew on me. Thats my speed. I'm already sick of 50's joint. been sick of it. I already knew what it was at the check out counter. Some of ya'll just need to pull your heads out your ass about all of it.
All in all I still rock 'Madvillany' everyday, that shit blows both albums out the water, beats and lyrics, but what do I know right? Im a hater from NYC, I hate the south and thats all us New Yorkers talk about ...

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JWatts4sho — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 18:59:49 GMT

@ Streetweyez Sayles... great post man.

I respect KRS-One too but was never really a fan of his music. Since I'm a fan of ALL aspects of music, I didn't really like a lot of his songs as a whole, but he's intelligent and conveys his points articulately. It is this articulation that has posters on here getting mad at other posters for not agreeing with KRS.... He wasn't mad in the article or anything like that, but people that can actually read through the lines sees that he indeed made valid points, but he refuses to give props to ANYBODY that does good things that is NOT from the East Coast. I have been following KRS-One's 'bullshit' for a while and I do remember back when he was hatin on Nelly when he was on top for a second. I mean damn..... can anyone outside of NY get any shine without this man takin shots at them on the 'sly'. He aint straight up diss Kanye, but he's not a stupid man therefore he's makin himself look very biased and contradictory. If you flip this shit around and Kanye and 50 rapped about the opposite subject matter.... there is NO WAY that KRS would be on the Kanye bandwagon then. Thats just real shit. There's nothing thought provoking about a 50 Cent song. His first album was a classic, but it had nothing thought provoking either.... Kanye's style and subject matter stems from Spoken Word, and if you REALLY LISTEN TO HIS WORDS there is a lot of truth in them. Even in that song 'Stronger' (which I personally don't like) there is a message. So what is KRS talkin about?? I'm not gettin down with what he's sayin.

For the record.... there has definitely got to be balance in hip hop because you need all the different types of music to prevent this thing from becoming monotonous. I'm from the South, so I am ridin to that 'gangsta shit' when I'm in the car, and most of us do.......... But KRS, please don't tell me that this latest 50 Cent album is that... The songs for the ladies and the songs talkin about how much money he has makes up 80% of the damn album!! So your VALID points are taken, but please don't let your bias shine through so hard next time. Or at least don't write another article in which you try to pass opinion for fact to conceal and disguise your obvious bias.

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JWatts4sho — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:11:55 GMT

@ Layne90043........ great post!! I agree with everything you said right there.

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Real Hip Hop Since 1977 — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:39:35 GMT

I don't totally agree wit KRS ONE.....

50CENT is growing....OH HELL TO THA NAW... KRS ONE...
He stuck to the same format since GRODT...it's just people are tired of hearing it.....

I feel that musically 50CENTS album is better.... His music production had more hardcore, raw, hip-hop style beats with the exception of Amusement Park, Ayo Technology, Follow My Lead, and Fire.. but lyrically 50CENT topics stayed stagnent..

Kanye West had the better album lyrically......Because he touch on a lot of different topics. (Graduation lacked uptempo beats. I wanted more songs beatwise like Champion)...Topic diversity is what I expect more out of todays rappers. Because nowadays you got new rap artist rappin' about the same stuff that I already heard on a T.I., Young Jeezy, or Yung Joc album....

KRS ONE had me rolling about Kanye's "FLASHING LIGHTS" song cause I told yall to me Kanye MADE IT FOR FASHION SHOWS AND BEAUTY PAGENTS......(Kanye should've gave the Flashing Lights instrumental to Keysha Coles and let her sing a new song to it. SHE WOULD HAVE KILLED IT...)

Hey that reminds me..DON'T ALICIA KEY'S song "NO ONE" have the same beat played a little bit faster as Kanye's "Flashing Lights" song... I REST MY CASE...

I like all artist from the east, west, south, and up north....WHAT'S MISSING IN MAINSTREAM IS BALANCE...RealTalk

P.S. I'm a true fan of KRS ONE (Tha Teacha) but every since he made the statement "He was glad 9-11 happened." (which he retracted..2yrs later after he said it) I stopped being a student of KRS philosphy.

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IronHorse — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 19:50:29 GMT

JWatts4sho

Peace,
I feel you, but I wouldnt call KRS-1 biased, the nigga like what he likes.
All that biased shit is an excuse and the new thing to call someone besides a hater. which is waaay overused nowadays.
Hip Hop used to allow you to like what you like. I mean he said he liked both albums, what more do you want?
I think niggas worldwide got it set in stone that NYC is full of haters or whatever the new trend is.
fact of the matter is kanye grew up with a college professor as a mother, 50's mother was a drug dealer amongst other things.
The content is gonna be night & day every single time.
50 was pumpin at 12, at 12 kanye was in china learning another culture...These are facts my man. what do you expect 50 to be kickin right about now? heres a man who went from zero to 250mph overnight, and never learned to humble himself.
KRS is gonna relate to 50 every single time cause THAT LIFE 50 speaks of is right outside his door, everyday, right or wrong, whether you wanna believe 50 is a fraud or not thats just the cold hard facts. NYC makes niggas what they become IN REAL LIFE. herb or real nigga. factor that shit in and it will be much easier to understand an NY artist overall, trust me. assumption is never good.
when 50 repeats his life over & over I dont expect a POP ARTIST to do nothing less than reduplicate the winning formula till the consumer cant stomach it. case end point.
Your right, nothing on 50's album was thought provoking, its not designed to be. All that man knows is the streets and G-Unit.
the nigga got certified hood beef with 1 of the HNIC's on the streets of NYC, the streets not the booth...what do you expect his mindstate to be in is all Im sayin? its not a front or movie...
I hope you screw face jeezy or plies repeating the same street shit over and over, cause that is the #1 problem; explotation, it didnt start and it wont end with none of them niggas as long as it keeps selling so much like it does.
And how do you give a generation props when they aint doing shit but biting off each other and selling out for a buck?
Nothing out is worthy of classic praise, nothing. not 1 album.
its probably hard for KRS personally to give anybody props cause all this shit is flawed, all of it, from 50 to mistah fab to BG, all of it...
I'd put money on it that KRS has PLENTY to say about hip hop from coast to coast, but whats the use now. Niggas aint gonna listen anyway. And kanye is getting plenty 'shine'...the nigga is top 10 on the forbes list, and is one of the illest producers in the game so why would he need KRS props? Feel you on your overall point, but lighten up. Alot of shit out the south east or west dont deserve props, lets be real...
Plus fans dont know how to be fans no more, everybody is a youtube star or critic or my spce celebrity anyway. All of this is a problem. And was KRS biased when he & marley(from QB) stated hip hop is alive? when he disagreed with Nas about the album title but he said he understood what he meant, where was the blog then and was he biased? like I said ya'll lighten up...

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RORO_DA_BEAST — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:10:18 GMT

kanye west shouldn't even be considered as a hip hop
artist!!

the type of material he puts out is not hip hop!!!!
its stadium music just like he said he wanted to do

that shit is basically techno!!!

kanye is a pop star!!!!!

he's worried more about his fashion than
his music

yea he sold more records than 50 but
they're music does not fall under the same
category!!!!!

obviously more people chose pop then hip hop
so they coped "Graduation"...

kanye west holds the title for most
POP records sold in September

and 50 holds the record for most
HIP HOP records sold in September

kanye will say he is a hip hop artist
but his music is telling a whole different
genre

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canipost? — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:20:35 GMT

@KRS,self proclaimed "teacher".u said "main stream media"should honor the "balance" n hip hop,but the main stream media didnt say "kanye west is not hip hop" u did!...everyone that knows anything about hip hop knows what uve contributed and the good music u put out but sum times the best thing to say is nothing.especially when one has a tendency to flip flop and switch lanes like u do

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canipost? — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 20:38:48 GMT

P.S. unless ur "teaching" FLIP FLOP 101 pls preserve the blue print n legecy uv acheived and stfu!

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JWatts4sho — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:29:26 GMT

@ IronHorse

I understand everything you said, but please note that I choose my words carefully and I never called KRS a hater. Some people may use the word 'biased' like that, but those are two totally different things. I'm just callin KRS like I see him. He's the one that put out his 'biased' opinions. How is Kanye not Hip Hop??? So I guess Rakim, Big Daddy Kane, and a slew of other rappers back in the 80s weren't 'Flashy'????? I know somethin about hip hop and its history and roots. Thats why I trip on people that get mad at the dancing and dance music from the South (even tho I'm not even a big fan of it), because it has a definitive place in Hip Hop. Hip Hop and rap really didn't even get grimey until the late 80s/early 90s. And West Coast gangsta rap made all the 'street shit' fashionable. So I agree that there are different types of HIP HOP MUSIC to appease different audiences. Sure KRS is from the streets and all that, but in a nutshell he's sayin that every rapper that is not on that 'street shit' is not reppin real hip hop. So that means that every nigga that aint street and chooses to listen to people like a Kanye and so forth are not listening to real HIP HOP. Thats just drawing from what KRS is saying. He's got a VOICE in the HIP HOP community so for some 'sheeple' that choose to take his word as the gospel, he is the one setting the lines for what HIP HOP is and isn't. Hip Hop has roots in break dancing, graffiti art, beat box, and so forth. Thats cool, but that shit aint happenin no more. HE SAID HIMSELF that its all about innovation, but it seems that he's still stuck in that 'NY State Of Mind'!!!

This is no diss to anyone from the East Coast at all. I grew up listening to East Coast shit, as well as West Coast and our Down South legends so I got a taste of it all. It just seems to me (and this is the gripe with a lot of people NOT from the East Coast), if something is DIFFERENT and not born of that region, it gets no love. Thats just what it is. Why do you think that the West and the South don't have those same arguments against each other?? I know its not ALL East Coast cats, but its definitely enough of them with closed minds. This thing called Hip Hop is evolving, and thats the only way that it will survive. Just because YOU may not listen to somebody or KRS may not listen to somebody.... or just because YOU may not think its Hip Hop or KRS may not think its Hip Hop does not make it so. I challenge all the people with a sound mind to please explain the criteria to me that would validate an artist's 'Hip Hop'????? I want real answers.

Also, I aint givin this generation any props but its not because of the talent out here.... its just because of the corporations and who they choose to promote. Example: People talk down on Atlanta, but I think one of the coldest cats out of Atlanta on a mic is a nigga named Bohagon. Niggas down south know who this guy is but he aint blew up mainstream yet..... while you got a wack as nigga like Lil Scrappy that has dropped two albums. But when its all said and done, its all still Hip Hop. We don't need this divide and trying to categorize music. Yall fallin into that trap...... straight up "Divide and Conquer"!!!!

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Grimm44 — Wed, 10 Oct 2007 21:49:44 GMT

KRS ONE one of my all time favorites. That being said I cant cosign that movement. Pretty much he's not feeling Ye's wardrobe, the white glasses an all that, this I understand. I like lyrical dudes, but I always roll with some Mobb Deep, LOX, Biggie, Young Hova type joints in the whip. Not feelin' the things I heard from 50...I know that the first album was good so he can do it, but I aint heard it in a while. Ye, Common, Talib have better lyrical skill even though I dont ride with them as long as that Return of the Mack from Prodigy...50 singin' hooks and talking about all his cash is gettin old to me.

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YoPrince — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 01:33:35 GMT

well.. KRS hit the nail on the head this time. 50 slacked on the production this go round and Kanye's beats are crazy... but anybody who truly knows rhyming, the skill of it... anybody who really knows content is not equivalent to lyricism... knows that 50 is light years ahead of Kanye lyrically..

with that said, Kanye has a great sound and makes decent songs, but I wish people wouldn't call him a conscious emcee.. b/c that's just bullshit. both Kanye and 50 are pop rappers, which I'm not mad at, but ppl call Kanye a conscious rapper just cause he doesn't dress like a nigga. don't be so quick to catogorize, cuz if u listen to kanye's music he's just as materialistic as any other rapper , if not much more.

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Cmacjb — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 03:02:20 GMT

Like KRS-One said Kanye's album is good, but it doesn't relate to that street gangster type music. If you want that "Gun Talk" and gangster shit than 50 the best. But me personally I like Kanye for the fact that he brings something new to Hip Hop. How many rapers talk about busting their guns and shit? Kanye's music is a change from all of that and that whys hes so popular in the publics eyes. Cutis is good music for driving down the streets but for the real artistic view of Hip Hop Graduation is where its at.

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Bone — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:00:35 GMT

JWatts4sho, Layne90043 and Streetweyez Sayles

You 3 cats kept it real in my opinion. I can't agree with you more. When I heard the remarks KRS 1 made about Kanye's album NOT being Hip Hop I was shocked... and the mere fact that he mentioned that the reporter interviewing him appeared to be shocked as well, let's me know furthermore that he was looking for some attention or something. You see the problem with ALL of this is the fact that we are always trying to DEFINE EVERYTHING so that we can ultimately control it. Hmm. Why is this? Hip Hop is so unique in the sense that no ONE can define it or limit what it is. Hip Hop was....it is and shall be what all other genre's of music isn't. WE DO NOT DEFINE HIP HOP, HIP HOP DEFINES US. Hip Hop is YOU! Hip Hop is ME! Why? Is it because we all have an ear to hear and dare to be different? Isn't this the reason why it exists today? Hip Hop moves against the grain of other genre's of music AND at the same time can include Rock, Pop, R&B Jazz you name it without selling out!!!! Can you say Run DMC? Hip Hop baby! Love it! Public Enemy....OMG! Hip Hop takes risk, it is innovative, creative, and visual and any other adjective one can throw in there. Hip Hop has evolved but it also remains the same (Different) haha....let's not kid our selves into believing that Hip Hop is dead....it is never dead. As long as we have brothers in the hood poor, down and out.....broken then we will always have Hip Hop as a means to not only get paid but more importantly BE HEARD. That's what we do...it's a hustle for some and a career for those that do it well. Either you like it or you don't. Now I have to give KRS 1 props for retracting and cleaning up what he meant...and oh he did retract what he said...he initially said Kanye was not Hip Hop. Come on!!! Kanye West is a perfect example of how Hip Hop has evolved. Talk about the flashy clothes, singing and dancing, blinging….it’s all MAKE –UP or should I say MADE UP. Back in the day it was about “Break dancing” Pop lockin, Beat boxin …that’s HIP HOP! We take it more serious now which is one way in which it has evolved. Back in the day it was fun….Fat Boys, LL Cool J, MC Shan, KRS 1 and the Boogie Down, Run DMC, NWA…wooo …now that’s what’s up but check it. Look at the evolution…. Tribe Called Quest and the whole Native Tongue, UGK, Scarface AKA Face, Outkast, Too Short, Ice Cube, Snoop, Dre, Wu Tang, Red Man, Queen Latifah man it’s too many!! Hip Hop is feel good music. It can appeal to everybody’s taste in some way…that’s why there are so many new artist out there….some aren’t saying anything at all….yet sells millions? Can’t knock the hustle. That’s why KRS 1 has the right to say “I like 50 cents album better.” That’s his opinion and I respect his opinion because I KNOW KRS 1 is one of many that Hip Hop has defined…sorry KRS 1 but you can not and will not define what Hip Hop is…we did not give you that authority. Hip Hop made you. Let’s embrace Kanye as the artist that he is and for what he has done for Hip Hop. He’s opened the gates for a broader audience black, white, asian you name it. Why isn’t that Hip Hop? Why not evolve into something bigger and greater than 50 or Kanye? Hell, get paid in the process. (That is why record sales matter) Big ups to Kanye for saying something because 50 can’t tell me nothing…..ha ha he can’t tell me nothing.

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fifthwardtx — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 04:10:53 GMT

(knowledge reins supreme... thanks for clearing the air and providing your pupils (the entire hip hop game) with a lesson to chew on; it's cool you prefer fiddy's new album over ye's, i personally prefer ye's myself (no homo); the overall production was tighter and more fluid...
the gunplay is cool, but fiddy is a half-billionaire so i kno HIS gun ain't going off and the tuff talk is dead coming from him as far as i'm concerned. He gotta write some stuff on getting those $450 million dollar checks, when he do that against some Dre, Ye' and Just Blaze beats he gone sell 10 million again and murk the game; it's time for him to step his content up...

again, KRS, thx for da' clarity; and lastly when are we gonna get to the point that we don't take everything as a "dis" - coverage of hip hop is so confrontational, they treat and cover us like we are animals

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TownBusiness — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 05:21:54 GMT

Man tell it like it is. KRS1 is fucking scared of 50 steroid jackson. Thats why he got so big, so he could bully muthafuckas. I can just hear it now, "yea mofucka you like my shit dont you!" lol

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SOULOMON — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 06:57:20 GMT

KRS ONE is from the streets not no the 'burbs...
so he gonna feel that 50 more than Ye... any real nigga would... most cats on here catch feelings like 50 screwing they girl... You guys acting like Bow wow should be

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shani — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 07:48:55 GMT

K.R.S One
Kontradictory Rapper Statements

KRS doesn't really stand on princible. Like he said:

"Just because you put out a "conscious" album does not mean that you are a "conscious" person."

And he ain't one. Like he said he himself is still stuck on that "nigga my gun go off" bullshit. That's that bullshit feeding the prison system for dudes who ain't got rap skills. Chris is a stylist not an activist, a dude who switches his styles up as the wind blows and at this point in time he's riding a wind called 50.

"EVERYTHING ABOUT HIP HOP IS GOOD! " -KRS One

that just sounds stupid. I tell ya every day this dude becomes less and less conscious.
Why? Let me put you up on somethin': They doing a collabo, and KRS is buggin out doing a money dance in his mind, can't think straight.

Kanye ain't really even so much a conscious rapper. Why this whole debate gotta be Kanye vs 50? What about Talib Kweli and Common?

At least Chuck D ain't contradicting himself every 5 minutes.
(even though KRS is a better MC)

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

Teardrop Jones — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 09:38:23 GMT

A blind man can see that most of the responses made to this article are plain stupid. UNDERSTAND what the hell the man sayin'. Don't just skim through it, don't just read it, but COMPREHEND what is bein' said. People sayin', "Oh, he made a few good points here and there, but".....you people need to go back to school and be taught how to read properly. I'm not goin' to refer to the article and tell you exactly what KRS One was sayin' or where he was comin' from, cause that's YOUR responsibility as the reader.

And to the people claimin' that Kanye West is a positive or "conscious" rapper: That's a load of shit. The guy says what he feels, and if he's not talkin' about some females (money, cars, and clothes), he's talkin' abt critics wantin' him to change or abt how he's one of the best rappers out and that he's pissed and wants to be respected and all that. In Late Registration on the "Addiction" track he even stated that he's addicted to money, weed, and sex, and ain't shyt "conscious" abt that. I think people got it twisted: Just because a rapper's beats and lyrics have a positive vibe to it, doesn't mean that the shyt will always send a positive message. And why would someone be dumb enough to compare music to charity and givin' back to the community? Some people will say anything just to argue. It's almost impossible to tell the difference between well thought out philosophical views and idiotic remarks made against them. Come on people, I thought you were smarter than this.

Another thing: KRS One isn't a "conscious" rapper either. But neither is he a gangster rapper. He's one of the few artists who could make songs with negative and positive messages. This is why alot of people listen to his music: He has the ability to make music that people of different backgrounds and teachings can relate to. If any of you have ever listened to his music..... you know what, I'm done. I shouldn't have to explain this. Smarten up, imbeciles.

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

curtis75black — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:52:04 GMT

Love the editorial. KRS hit right on the head with balance. That's something we all have as fans but don't really express it when it comes to the Internet Posts. We choose to like one thing over another all the time. You can like 50 and Kayne but you will gravitate towards something you're more familiar with. Thats all KRS was saying. He was not shitting on Kayne (stating his production was the shit) but when it came to overall feel, he checked 50. My question to you is - What's wrong with that?

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

DREWMAC — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 16:09:27 GMT

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH KRS-ONE.

Go buy that HIPHOP Lives album.

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

HannibalSmith — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 17:21:13 GMT

I am in complete agreement with the point made on the balance issue. It's not any type of hip-hop specificly that causes most of the problems of associating the culture with negativity, it's the total and complete lack of balance. Nobody is fucking fool enough to say that all TV shows will rot your mind based off Laguna Beach alone, because you can flip over a few notches and see the History channel, Discover, etc (Not that I'm saying those channels aren't full of shit at times either, just an example). When some stuffed shirt gets the red-ass and starts venting on whatever song/video is on, they aren't going to get to see the other end of the hip-hop spectrum being presented any longer, like you could in the past.

No need to clean shit up, just balance it out.

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

shani — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 18:00:23 GMT

People like to talk about "balance" as if that applies to everything in life. For example, you have a job and basically treat people well. Then some dude who know says man, you too straight, you act too good all the time, common and get with me on this robbery. This is the type of shit some of us go through in life. I am supposed to do that be cause it's more balanced?
Some dude just slapped a kid upside the head real hard just for kicks. Now if he then goes out and helps an old lady across the street does that cancel out the fact that he smacked that kid? See this balance concept is all twisted.
See what headz don't understand is that one bad apple can spoil the barrel. Like it takes a lot of people to build a building but only one guy with a match to burn it down.
You want balance? Nobody can agree on that. Let me tell you again- nobody can agree if the state of Hip Hop is in "balance" or "way off balance"

Someone broke it down like this on another website:

Let's take 1987 compared to 2007

A)POSITIVE Hip Hop (message rap, conscious rap, political rap)

B) NEUTRAL Hip Hop (a lot of stuff actually ain't positive or negative, it's observation of life, even some observing negative stuff but not being a part of it)

C) NEGATIVE Hip Hop (rap that glorifies not just observing but being a part of Black on Black violence, making drug dealing seem cool, doing robbery, disrespecting and treating women like prostitiutes)

***Now I ask you to look at 1987 compared to 2007 and put in the percentages adding up to 100% for each year.

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

SPOT-E — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 20:23:28 GMT

KRS UNO IS TRYING TO GET SOME OF THAT V-WATER
I COULD CARE LESS WHAT HE SAYS

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

Teardrop Jones — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:15:13 GMT

@ Shani:

What the hell are you talkin' about? Who said that balance applies to life in that regard? How stupid is that? He's talkin' about MUSIC. Everyone is free to make they're own type of music, everyone is free to listen to whatever type of music they want, blah blah blah. It's like Free Speech - better yet, it's like GOD givin' us the free will to make our own decisions and have our own beliefs, whether it be a good choice or bad choice. For example: you have a job and basically treat people well. Then some dude you know says,"Man, you too straight, you act too good all the time, come on and get with me on this robbery." This is where freedom of choice comes in. Whether you decide to not be influenced by peer pressure and decline the robber's offer or accept and throw your life down the drain, it's all up to you. The same applies to music. It is up to you to listen to whatever type of music you want to listen to for any reason. I, personally, can listen to a song from Talib Kweli or Mos Def and then turn around and listen to Biggie, Nas, Pac, or Jay from the Reasonable Doubt days. One category has it's positive views and
messages and the other has it's negative, some with a mix of both. Regardless, I can listen to all of it and love it for what it is
because I can understand where they are comin' from. But at the end of the day, it's up to me to make the right or wrong decision as to lettin' the music tell me how to live my life, whether it be "positive", "neutral", or "negative". I'm sick of people tryin' to make this culture we call Hip Hop (not to mention "the state" of rap music) into a political battle. We used to fight against censorship, now we're fightin' to censor ourselves. This shyt don't make any sense to me at all.

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

weedman666 — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 21:36:38 GMT

eeey...fuck, man show some som respect for KRS-ONE he have an opinion so sho som respectct . KANYE=POP 50CENT=HIP-HOP

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

baynig4sho — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:41:50 GMT

i always thought krs-1 was about content and how was 50s album directed to guys.im from the streets and i relate to kanye more.gangsta shit isnt all we do ,we think,we want our mental challenged occasionally.krs dissed nelly then he supports that same kind of artistin 50 now he might be more gangsta but he still doin the same lilipop hip hop bullshitthat were sick of thats why we (the street ni99as)didnt go out and buy that trashwe dont believe him no more.fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me.i think either krs is being totally bias on some new york shit.krs told us queens keepson fakin it so dont be suprised when we dont support that shit.50 music used to be hard now he soft as medical gause.that aint hip hop and i pray thats not what we have to look forward to.

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

baynig4sho — Thu, 11 Oct 2007 23:50:57 GMT

id like to know where this balance issue was when mc hammer was out or when nelly came out.bottom line if yo aint from ny you aint hip hop and thats bullshit.i think the teacher is on strike and lookin for a pay raise.

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

baynig4sho — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:15:58 GMT

its funny to me that real street ni99as beat kanye shit and hardly beat 50 shit anymore.i think these fools comments on here are bias i couldnt give a shit if kanye came out the closet tommorow i would still bang his shit real muthafuckas aint got no problem because we know who we are.however most punk ass spoiled sub urban(80 percent of the comments on this site no offence ahh)really wanna be tough guys cause they aint had half they friends killed or watch a man die in front of you.so they think being hard all hte time is cool until they get locked up and tell on everybody.now i give a pass to ny because they only supportin they reigon.i support ni99as out here that other states might find corny as fuck so i understand that.but at the same time lets be real half u ni99as like gangsta shit cause thats what you want to be fine.not everybody needs that if i wanna see or hear some real gangsta shit all i gotta do is walk out the front door.but if i want to hear something to challenge my critical thinking i have to dig a little deeper.

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

Intelekt — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 04:28:47 GMT

You know what I think's hilarious??? SOME DUDES ON HERE ARE SUDDENLY GIVING 50 PROPS CAUSE KRS SAID SO. LMAO. I can't say who, cause I don't know, BUT I can GUARANTEE some of you are suddenly defending 50 Cent just cause KRS says he likes him. Admit it mutha fuckaz.. KRS CONTRADICTS HIMSELF LIKE CRAZYYYY. Big fan of the man's work, he's a great emcee, and he's entitled to his opinions. FACE IT THOUGH: SOMETIMES HE MAKES NO DAMN SENSE.

"If 50 Cent actually builds Hip Hop's museum/archive with the money and influence made from his "gangsta" music and Kanye (as an example) buys more Gucci and gold chains with his money and influence who has really served the
culture?" -KRS

I don't know for sure if Kanye or 50 have done great things for humanity. BUT At least Kanye West addresses more meaningful shit in his music. 50 Cent has never done a song like Diamonds (From Sierra Leone), talking about blood diamonds and the deaths of innocent and opressed Africans involved in that business. Kanye also did Jesus Walks. He's spoken to some degree even about politics and Bush (yeah we all remember that). How has 50 Cent helped Hip Hop?? He never pays respects to virtually anyone. He says he can give a fuck about you if you're not helping him make money. He admits to having more edgy, different music than we've been exposed to, but he wont release cause he says it's not what the people wanna hear. Yeah okay... thats why you're not selling fuckin albums anymore like you used to. Plus you're rich as FUCK. You can afford to drop something that you really like and feel is good, different material. "OH NO, if it doesn't go multiplatinum, my career is over!"

"Yes, I remain Hip Hop's "teacha" and authentic cultural voice; and yes, I will continue to promote both spiritual and political thought through Hip Hop. Like most people I too seek the "Good Life", but let's just keep it really real; "NIGGA MY GUN GO OFF!" - KRS

He remains Hip Hop's teacha and authentic cultural voice??? How?? Plenty of "Hip Hoppas" have disagreed with you in the past and ESPECIALLY NOW. So how can he say he is Hip Hop's authentic cultural voice and teacha? I guess all these people aren't Hip Hop then. People have a right to change their minds. I know I do. But KRS changes his mind by the DAY. "Kanye West's album was brilliant, but it's not Hip Hop," he said in that interview. IN THIS EDITORIAL he claims Graduations and Kanye West are Hip Hop.

He also spoke about growth. Ummmm... how was 50 grown?? Kanye West's CDs are ALL different. Kanye KEEPS growing man. 50's shit is cool, but he certainly aint growing. Bitches, money, drugs, guns. END OF STORY.

Now, I love KRS's music, and I think he's a great speaker, but I don't swing from his nuts or anyone elses. I also have all of 50's and Kanye's CDs, and I like both of em. I'm just trying to play up certain things and points to make some of you flip-floppin dudes think a little more. Form your own decisions. Just cause KRS-One is a great emcee and has a long history with Hip Hop, that doesn't necessarily mean "okay everyone else shut the fuck up b/c KRS is right, and nothing you have to say matters." HA.. and I thought Hip Hop was about freedom and overcoming opression. Half of the people who claim "real Hip Hop" nowadays oppress others anyway.

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

urz truly4 — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 05:24:56 GMT

Well,i dont care what dat nigga says..obviously every one has their own opinion.Both albums r gud...but i bought kanyes.Tru,50 grew..but as a person not a artist..kanye grew az a artist as well as producer..hiphop is sumthing dat was always about evolvin...which mr west has been doin from da gate...50 can do better tracks...but he so affraid dat every one aint gonna like him no more cuz he'z actually speakin what he really feels instead ov..whats jus so call hot2listen2.Think about it....

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

fdmedina2 — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 06:23:38 GMT

crips and bloods was invented by the government to turn black people against each other................

......whoops. wrong page!

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

shani — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:06:13 GMT

I dare anybody to be honest enough to give your opinion on the state of Hip Hop today 2007 and then again for 1987 broken down into 3 catagories with percentages adding up to 100%:

2007

A) % POSITIVE Hip Hop
(message rap, conscious rap, political rap)

B) % NEUTRAL Hip Hop
(a lot of stuff actually ain't positive or negative, it's
observation of life, even some observing negative stuff but
not being a part of it)

C) % NEGATIVE Hip Hop
(rap that glorifies not just observing but being a part of
Black on Black violence, making drug dealing seem cool,
doing robbery, disrespecting and treating women like
prostitiutes)

****************************************************
KRS One's Temple of Hip Hop Declaration of Peace

rom The Temple Of Hip Hop

The Hiphop Declaration of Peace

This Hiphop Declaration of Peace guides Hiphop Kulture toward freedom from violence, and establishes advice and protection for the existence and development of the international Hiphop community. Through the principles of this Hiphop Declaration of Peace we, Hiphop Kulture, establish a foundation of health, love, awareness, wealth, peace and prosperity for ourselves, our children and their children's children, forever.

For the clarification of Hiphop's meaning and purpose, or when the intention of Hiphop is questioned, or when disputes between parties arise concerning Hiphop; Hiphoppas shall have access to the advice of this document, The Hiphop Declaration of Peace, as guidance, advice and protection.

First Principle
Hiphop (Hip´Hop) is a term that describes our independent collective consciousness. Ever growing, it is commonly expressed through such elements as Breakin, Emceein, Graffiti Art, Deejayin, Beatboxin, Street Fashion, Street Language, Street Knowledge and Street Entrepreneurialism. Wherever and whenever these and future elements and expressions of Hiphop Kulture manifest; this Hiphop Declaration of Peace shall advise the use and interpretation of such elements, expressions and lifestyle.

Second Principle
Hiphop Kulture respects the dignity and sanctity of life without discrimination or prejudice. Hiphoppas shall thoroughly consider the protection and the development of life, over and before the individual decision to destroy or seek to alter its natural development.

Third Principle
Hiphop Kulture respects the laws and agreements of its culture, its country, its institutions, and whomever it does business with. Hiphop does not irresponsibly break laws and commitments.

Fourth Principle
Hiphop is a term that describes our independent collective consciousness. As a conscious way of life, we acknowledge our influence on society, especially on children; and we shall forever keep the rights and welfare of both in mind. Hiphop Kulture encourages womanhood, manhood, sisterhood, brotherhood, childhood and family. We are conscious not to bring any intentional disrespect that jeopardizes the dignity and reputation of our children, elders and ancestors.

Fifth Principle
The ability to define, defend and educate ourselves is encouraged, developed, preserved, protected and promoted as a means toward peace and prosperity, and toward the protection and the development of our self-worth. Through knowledge of purpose, and the development of our natural and learned skills, Hiphoppas are encouraged to always present their best work and ideas.

Sixth Principle
Hiphop Kulture honors no relationship, person, event, act or otherwise, wherein the preservation and further development of Hiphop's culture, principles and elements are not considered or respected. Hiphop Kulture does not participate in activities that clearly destroy or alter its ability to productively and peacefully exist. Hiphoppas are encouraged to initiate and participate in fair trade and honesty in all negotiations and transactions.

Seventh Principle
The essence of Hiphop is beyond entertainment: The elements of Hiphop Kulture may be traded for money, power, respect, food, shelter, information and other resources; however, Hiphop and its culture can not be bought, nor is it for sale. It cannot be transferred nor exchanged, by or to anyone, for any compensation, at any time or at any place. Hiphop is not a product. Hiphop is the priceless principle of our self-empowerment.

Eighth Principle
Companies, corporations, non and not-for-profit organizations, as well as individuals and groups that are clearly benefiting from the use, interpretation and/or exploitation of the term Hiphop, (i.e. Hip Hop, hip-hop,) and the expressions and terminologies of Hiphop, (i.e. Hip Hop, hip-hop,) are encouraged to commission and/or employ a full-time or part-time certified Hiphop cultural specialist, to interpret and answer sensitive, cultural questions regarding the principles and proper presentations of Hiphop’s elements and culture; relative to businesses, individuals, organizations, communities, cities, as well as other countries.

Ninth Principle
May 3rd is Rap Music Day. Hiphoppas are encouraged to dedicate their time and talent to self-development and for service to their communities. Every third week in May is Hiphop Appreciation Week. During this time, Hiphoppas are encouraged to honor their ancestors, reflect upon their cultural contributions, and appreciate the elements and principles of Hiphop Kulture. November is Hiphop History Month. During this time Hiphoppas are encouraged to participate in the creating, learning and honoring of Hiphop's history and historical cultural contributors.

Tenth Principle
Hiphoppas are encouraged to build meaningful and lasting relationships that rest upon love, trust, equality, and respect. Hiphoppas are encouraged not to cheat, abuse or deceive their friends.

Eleventh Principle
The Hiphop community exists as an international culture of consciousness that provides all races, tribes, religions, and styles of people, a foundation for the communication of their best ideas and works. Hiphop Kulture is united as one multi-skilled, multi-cultural, multi-faith, multi-racial people, committed to the establishment and the development of peace.

Twelfth Principle
Hiphop Kulture does not intentionally or voluntarily participate in any form of hate, deceit, prejudice or theft at any time. At no time shall Hiphop Kulture engage in any violent war within itself. Those who intentionally violate the principles of this Declaration of Peace or intentionally reject its advice, forfeit by their own actions, the protections set forth herein.

Thirteenth Principle
Hiphop Kulture rejects the immature impulse for unwarranted acts of violence, and always seeks diplomatic, non-violent strategies in the settlement of all disputes. Hiphoppas are encouraged to consider forgiveness and understanding before any act of retaliation. War is reserved as a final solution when there is evidence that all other means of diplomatic negotiation have failed repeatedly.

Fourteenth Principle
Hiphoppas are encouraged to eliminate poverty, speak out against injustice, and to shape a more caring society and a more peaceful world. Hiphop Kulture supports a dialogue and action that heals divisions in society, addresses the legitimate concerns of humankind, and advances the cause of peace.

Fifteenth Principle
Hiphoppas respect and learn from the ways of Nature, regardless of where we are on this planet. Hiphop Kulture holds sacred our duty to contribute to our own survival as independent, free-thinking beings, in and throughout the Universe. This planet, commonly known as Earth, is our nurturing parent; and Hiphoppas are encouraged to respect Nature and all creations, offsprings and inhabitants of Nature.

Sixteenth Principle
Hiphop's pioneers, legends, teachas, elders, and ancestors shall not be inaccurately quoted, misrepresented, or disrespected at anytime. No one should profess to be a Hiphop pioneer or legend unless they can prove, with facts and/or witnesses, their credibility and contributions to Hiphop Kulture.

Seventeenth Principle
Hiphoppas are encouraged to share resources. Hiphoppas should give as freely and as often as possible. It is the duty of every Hiphoppa to assist, whenever possible, in the relief of human suffering and in the correction of injustice. Hiphop is shown the highest respect when Hiphoppas respect each other. Hiphop Kulture is preserved, nurtured and developed when Hiphoppas preserve, nurture and develop one another.

Eighteenth Principle
Hiphop Kulture maintains a healthy, caring and wealthy, central Hiphop Temple -- fully aware and invested with the power to promote, teach, interpret, modify and defend the principles of this Hiphop Declaration of Peace.

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

shani — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:12:46 GMT

I dare anyone to assess the state of Hip Hop today 2007 vs. 1987 broken down into these 3 percentage catagories:

1987:

A) % POSITIVE Hip Hop
(message rap, conscious rap, political rap)

B) % NEUTRAL Hip Hop
(a lot of stuff actually ain't positive or negative, it's observation of life, even some observing negative stuff but not being a part of it)

C) % NEGATIVE Hip Hop
(rap that glorifies not just observing but being a part of Black on Black violence, making drug dealing seem cool, doing robbery, disrespecting and treating women like prostitiutes)
****************************************************
2007:

A)POSITIVE Hip Hop
(message rap, conscious rap, political rap)

B) NEUTRAL Hip Hop
(a lot of stuff actually ain't positive or negative, it's observation of life, even some observing negative stuff but not being a part of it)

C) NEGATIVE Hip Hop
(rap that glorifies not just observing but being a part of Black on Black violence, making drug dealing seem cool, doing robbery, disrespecting and treating women like prostitiutes)

**************************************************

KRS ONE'S TEMPLE OF HIP HOP

The Hiphop Declaration of Peace

This Hiphop Declaration of Peace guides Hiphop Kulture toward freedom from violence, and establishes advice and protection for the existence and development of the international Hiphop community. Through the principles of this Hiphop Declaration of Peace we, Hiphop Kulture, establish a foundation of health, love, awareness, wealth, peace and prosperity for ourselves, our children and their children's children, forever.

For the clarification of Hiphop's meaning and purpose, or when the intention of Hiphop is questioned, or when disputes between parties arise concerning Hiphop; Hiphoppas shall have access to the advice of this document, The Hiphop Declaration of Peace, as guidance, advice and protection.

First Principle
Hiphop (Hip´Hop) is a term that describes our independent collective consciousness. Ever growing, it is commonly expressed through such elements as Breakin, Emceein, Graffiti Art, Deejayin, Beatboxin, Street Fashion, Street Language, Street Knowledge and Street Entrepreneurialism. Wherever and whenever these and future elements and expressions of Hiphop Kulture manifest; this Hiphop Declaration of Peace shall advise the use and interpretation of such elements, expressions and lifestyle.

Second Principle
Hiphop Kulture respects the dignity and sanctity of life without discrimination or prejudice. Hiphoppas shall thoroughly consider the protection and the development of life, over and before the individual decision to destroy or seek to alter its natural development.

Third Principle
Hiphop Kulture respects the laws and agreements of its culture, its country, its institutions, and whomever it does business with. Hiphop does not irresponsibly break laws and commitments.

Fourth Principle
Hiphop is a term that describes our independent collective consciousness. As a conscious way of life, we acknowledge our influence on society, especially on children; and we shall forever keep the rights and welfare of both in mind. Hiphop Kulture encourages womanhood, manhood, sisterhood, brotherhood, childhood and family. We are conscious not to bring any intentional disrespect that jeopardizes the dignity and reputation of our children, elders and ancestors.

Fifth Principle
The ability to define, defend and educate ourselves is encouraged, developed, preserved, protected and promoted as a means toward peace and prosperity, and toward the protection and the development of our self-worth. Through knowledge of purpose, and the development of our natural and learned skills, Hiphoppas are encouraged to always present their best work and ideas.

Sixth Principle
Hiphop Kulture honors no relationship, person, event, act or otherwise, wherein the preservation and further development of Hiphop's culture, principles and elements are not considered or respected. Hiphop Kulture does not participate in activities that clearly destroy or alter its ability to productively and peacefully exist. Hiphoppas are encouraged to initiate and participate in fair trade and honesty in all negotiations and transactions.

Seventh Principle
The essence of Hiphop is beyond entertainment: The elements of Hiphop Kulture may be traded for money, power, respect, food, shelter, information and other resources; however, Hiphop and its culture can not be bought, nor is it for sale. It cannot be transferred nor exchanged, by or to anyone, for any compensation, at any time or at any place. Hiphop is not a product. Hiphop is the priceless principle of our self-empowerment.

Eighth Principle
Companies, corporations, non and not-for-profit organizations, as well as individuals and groups that are clearly benefiting from the use, interpretation and/or exploitation of the term Hiphop, (i.e. Hip Hop, hip-hop,) and the expressions and terminologies of Hiphop, (i.e. Hip Hop, hip-hop,) are encouraged to commission and/or employ a full-time or part-time certified Hiphop cultural specialist, to interpret and answer sensitive, cultural questions regarding the principles and proper presentations of Hiphop’s elements and culture; relative to businesses, individuals, organizations, communities, cities, as well as other countries.

Ninth Principle
May 3rd is Rap Music Day. Hiphoppas are encouraged to dedicate their time and talent to self-development and for service to their communities. Every third week in May is Hiphop Appreciation Week. During this time, Hiphoppas are encouraged to honor their ancestors, reflect upon their cultural contributions, and appreciate the elements and principles of Hiphop Kulture. November is Hiphop History Month. During this time Hiphoppas are encouraged to participate in the creating, learning and honoring of Hiphop's history and historical cultural contributors.

Tenth Principle
Hiphoppas are encouraged to build meaningful and lasting relationships that rest upon love, trust, equality, and respect. Hiphoppas are encouraged not to cheat, abuse or deceive their friends.

Eleventh Principle
The Hiphop community exists as an international culture of consciousness that provides all races, tribes, religions, and styles of people, a foundation for the communication of their best ideas and works. Hiphop Kulture is united as one multi-skilled, multi-cultural, multi-faith, multi-racial people, committed to the establishment and the development of peace.

Twelfth Principle
Hiphop Kulture does not intentionally or voluntarily participate in any form of hate, deceit, prejudice or theft at any time. At no time shall Hiphop Kulture engage in any violent war within itself. Those who intentionally violate the principles of this Declaration of Peace or intentionally reject its advice, forfeit by their own actions, the protections set forth herein.

Thirteenth Principle
Hiphop Kulture rejects the immature impulse for unwarranted acts of violence, and always seeks diplomatic, non-violent strategies in the settlement of all disputes. Hiphoppas are encouraged to consider forgiveness and understanding before any act of retaliation. War is reserved as a final solution when there is evidence that all other means of diplomatic negotiation have failed repeatedly.

Fourteenth Principle
Hiphoppas are encouraged to eliminate poverty, speak out against injustice, and to shape a more caring society and a more peaceful world. Hiphop Kulture supports a dialogue and action that heals divisions in society, addresses the legitimate concerns of humankind, and advances the cause of peace.

Fifteenth Principle
Hiphoppas respect and learn from the ways of Nature, regardless of where we are on this planet. Hiphop Kulture holds sacred our duty to contribute to our own survival as independent, free-thinking beings, in and throughout the Universe. This planet, commonly known as Earth, is our nurturing parent; and Hiphoppas are encouraged to respect Nature and all creations, offsprings and inhabitants of Nature.

Sixteenth Principle
Hiphop's pioneers, legends, teachas, elders, and ancestors shall not be inaccurately quoted, misrepresented, or disrespected at anytime. No one should profess to be a Hiphop pioneer or legend unless they can prove, with facts and/or witnesses, their credibility and contributions to Hiphop Kulture.

Seventeenth Principle
Hiphoppas are encouraged to share resources. Hiphoppas should give as freely and as often as possible. It is the duty of every Hiphoppa to assist, whenever possible, in the relief of human suffering and in the correction of injustice. Hiphop is shown the highest respect when Hiphoppas respect each other. Hiphop Kulture is preserved, nurtured and developed when Hiphoppas preserve, nurture and develop one another.

Eighteenth Principle
Hiphop Kulture maintains a healthy, caring and wealthy, central Hiphop Temple -- fully aware and invested with the power to promote, teach, interpret, modify and defend the principles of this Hiphop Declaration of Peace.

re: KRS-One: ON Kanye and 50 Cent

shani — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:14:24 GMT

I dare anyone to assess the state of Hip Hop today 2007 vs. 1987 broken down into these 3 percentage catagories:

1987:

A) % POSITIVE Hip Hop
(message rap, conscious rap, political rap)

B) % NEUTRAL Hip Hop �
(a lot of stuff actually ain't positive or negative, it's observation of life, even some observing negative stuff but not being a part of it)

C) % NEGATIVE Hip Hop
(rap that glorifies not just observing but being a part of Black on Black violence, making drug dealing seem cool, doing robbery, disrespecting and treating women like prostitiutes)
****************************************************
2007:

A)POSITIVE Hip Hop
(message rap, conscious rap, political rap)

B) NEUTRAL Hip Hop �
(a lot of stuff actually ain't positive or negative, it's observation of life, even some observing negative stuff but not being a part of it)

C) NEGATIVE Hip Hop
(rap that glorifies not just observing but being a part of Black on Black violence, making drug dealing seem cool, doing robbery, disrespecting and treating women like prostitiutes)

**************************************************
1987:

A)POSITIVE Hip Hop
(message rap, conscious rap, political rap)

B) NEUTRAL Hip Hop �
(a lot of stuff actually ain't positive or negative, it's observation of life, even some observing negative stuff but not being a part of it)

C) NEGATIVE Hip Hop
(rap that glorifies not just observing but being a part of Black on Black violence, making drug dealing seem cool, doing robbery, disrespecting and treating women like prostitiutes)

****************************************************

KRS ONE'S TEMPLE OF HIP HOP

The Hiphop Declaration of Peace

This Hiphop Declaration of Peace guides Hiphop Kulture toward freedom from violence, and establishes advice and protection for the existence and development of the international Hiphop community. Through the principles of this Hiphop Declaration of Peace we, Hiphop Kulture, establish a foundation of health, love, awareness, wealth, peace and prosperity for ourselves, our children and their children's children, forever.

For the clarification of Hiphop's meaning and purpose, or when the intention of Hiphop is questioned, or when disputes between parties arise concerning Hiphop; Hiphoppas shall have access to the advice of this document, The Hiphop Declaration of Peace, as guidance, advice and protection.

First Principle
Hiphop (Hip�Hop) is a term that describes our independent collective consciousness. Ever growing, it is commonly expressed through such elements as Breakin, Emceein, Graffiti Art, Deejayin, Beatboxin, Street Fashion, Street Language, Street Knowledge and Street Entrepreneurialism. Wherever and whenever these and future elements and expressions of Hiphop Kulture manifest; this Hiphop Declaration of Peace shall advise the use and interpretation of such elements, expressions and lifestyle.

Second Principle
Hiphop Kulture respects the dignity and sanctity of life without discrimination or prejudice. Hiphoppas shall thoroughly consider the protection and the development of life, over and before the individual decision to destroy or seek to alter its natural development.

Third Principle
Hiphop Kulture respects the laws and agreements of its culture, its country, its institutions, and whomever it does business with. Hiphop does not irresponsibly break laws and commitments.

Fourth Principle
Hiphop is a term that describes our independent collective consciousness. As a conscious way of life, we acknowledge our influence on society, especially on children; and we shall forever keep the rights and welfare of both in mind. Hiphop Kulture encourages womanhood, manhood, sisterhood, brotherhood, childhood and family. We are conscious not to bring any intentional disrespect that jeopardizes the dignity and reputation of our children, elders and ancestors.

Fifth Principle
The ability to define, defend and educate ourselves is encouraged, developed, preserved, protected and promoted as a means toward peace and prosperity, and toward the protection and the development of our self-worth. Through knowledge of purpose, and the development of our natural and learned skills, Hiphoppas are encouraged to always present their best work and ideas.

Sixth Principle
Hiphop Kulture honors no relationship, person, event, act or otherwise, wherein the preservation and further development of Hiphop's culture, principles and elements are not considered or respected. Hiphop Kulture does not participate in activities that clearly destroy or alter its ability to productively and peacefully exist. Hiphoppas are encouraged to initiate and participate in fair trade and honesty in all negotiations and transactions.

Seventh Principle
The essence of Hiphop is beyond entertainment: The elements of Hiphop Kulture may be traded for money, power, respect, food, shelter, information and other resources; however, Hiphop and its culture can not be bought, nor is it for sale. It cannot be transferred nor exchanged, by or to anyone, for any compensation, at any time or at any place. Hiphop is not a product. Hiphop is the priceless principle of our self-empowerment.

Eighth Principle
Companies, corporations, non and not-for-profit organizations, as well as individuals and groups that are clearly benefiting from the use, interpretation and/or exploitation of the term Hiphop, (i.e. Hip Hop, hip-hop,) and the expressions and terminologies of Hiphop, (i.e. Hip Hop, hip-hop,) are encouraged to commission and/or employ a full-time or part-time certified Hiphop cultural specialist, to interpret and answer sensitive, cultural questions regarding the principles and proper presentations of Hiphop�s elements and culture; relative to businesses, individuals, organizations, communities, cities, as well as other countries.

Ninth Principle
May 3rd is Rap Music Day. Hiphoppas are encouraged to dedicate their time and talent to self-development and for service to their communities. Every third week in May is Hiphop Appreciation Week. During this time, Hiphoppas are encouraged to honor their ancestors, reflect upon their cultural contributions, and appreciate the elements and principles of Hiphop Kulture. November is Hiphop History Month. During this time Hiphoppas are encouraged to participate in the creating, learning and honoring of Hiphop's history and historical cultural contributors.

Tenth Principle
Hiphoppas are encouraged to build meaningful and lasting relationships that rest upon love, trust, equality, and respect. Hiphoppas are encouraged not to cheat, abuse or deceive their friends.

Eleventh Principle
The Hiphop community exists as an international culture of consciousness that provides all races, tribes, religions, and styles of people, a foundation for the communication of their best ideas and works. Hiphop Kulture is united as one multi-skilled, multi-cultural, multi-faith, multi-racial people, committed to the establishment and the development of peace.

Twelfth Principle
Hiphop Kulture does not intentionally or voluntarily participate in any form of hate, deceit, prejudice or theft at any time. At no time shall Hiphop Kulture engage in any violent war within itself. Those who intentionally violate the principles of this Declaration of Peace or intentionally reject its advice, forfeit by their own actions, the protections set forth herein.

Thirteenth Principle
Hiphop Kulture rejects the immature impulse for unwarranted acts of violence, and always seeks diplomatic, non-violent strategies in the settlement of all disputes. Hiphoppas are encouraged to consider forgiveness and understanding before any act of retaliation. War is reserved as a final solution when there is evidence that all other means of diplomatic negotiation have failed repeatedly.

Fourteenth Principle
Hiphoppas are encouraged to eliminate poverty, speak out against injustice, and to shape a more caring society and a more peaceful world. Hiphop Kulture supports a dialogue and action that heals divisions in society, addresses the legitimate concerns of humankind, and advances the cause of peace.

Fifteenth Principle
Hiphoppas respect and learn from the ways of Nature, regardless of where we are on this planet. Hiphop Kulture holds sacred our duty to contribute to our own survival as independent, free-thinking beings, in and throughout the Universe. This planet, commonly known as Earth, is our nurturing parent; and Hiphoppas are encouraged to respect Nature and all creations, offsprings and inhabitants of Nature.

Sixteenth Principle
Hiphop's pioneers, legends, teachas, elders, and ancestors shall not be inaccurately quoted, misrepresented, or disrespected at anytime. No one should profess to be a Hiphop pioneer or legend unless they can prove, with facts and/or witnesses, their credibility and contributions to Hiphop Kulture.

Seventeenth Principle
Hiphoppas are encouraged to share resources. Hiphoppas should give as freely and as often as possible. It is the duty of every Hiphoppa to assist, whenever possible, in the relief of human suffering and in the correction of injustice. Hiphop is shown the highest respect when Hiphoppas respect each other. Hiphop Kulture is preserved, nurtured and developed when Hiphoppas preserve, nurture and develop one another.

Eighteenth Principle
Hiphop Kulture maintains a healthy, caring and wealthy, central Hiphop Temple -- fully aware and invested with the power to promote, teach, interpret, modify and defend the principles of this Hiphop Declaration of Peace.

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hater hurter — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:04:26 GMT

always good to hear krs one speak cuz he has so much wisdom and always lets people know his true feelings. so stop postin bullshit tryin to get people on the hate banwagon.

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shani — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 19:53:53 GMT

sorry for the repeats accident , administrators please remove copies if possible
Plus in the beginning I wanted a 1987 section and 2007 section but not a second 1987 section again-copy paste error

peace

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kinglopo — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 21:30:36 GMT

My thing is, even tho to me this in Ye's worst album, its better than 50. If you like 50's lyrics to me it means you don't like lyrics. That same shit isn't cool with me, nothing creative goes on witht he dude lyrically. Almost all the beat were subpar to me on Curtis and the ones that were good, 50 fuck it up to me.

Check these cats out

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K.A.K. DEUCE — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:32:27 GMT

@ fdmedina2:

"Crips and bloods was invented by the government to turn black people against each other................"

That's sum of tha stupidest ish I've ever heard.

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BLAK4DMD — Fri, 12 Oct 2007 23:44:53 GMT

a legend speaks his mind

http://www.myspace.com/dmdinc
http://www.myspace.com/dmdinc

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Anonymous — Sun, 21 Oct 2007 02:43:56 GMT

This read is very interesting. KRS-1 is one of the few artists that really shows the growth and perspective...

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Reverof — Mon, 22 Oct 2007 12:08:58 GMT

Big up to AHH for hooking us up with a legend like KRS 1's article. It give this site a whole lot of credibility.

And of course Fifty is the general. Check out the latest sales anyhow. Doubters.

Big up to the real!

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adopefemalemc — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 13:26:58 GMT

Just cuz it's KRS, we aint allowed 2 disagree w/ him?? Did I just read that??? I gotta agree w/ Shalom & Streetweyez Sayles on this one. KRS also said he had to stop being black and leave his family in order to "become Hip-Hop." Ya'll know he dumbass confusin sometimes, like wtf? Just cuz he's a pioneer don't mean he can't be wrong or ppl can't disagree w/ him. Not to say that some of the shit he said above wasn't real but I aint in TOTAL agreement, even if it is comin from KRS. It's all bad for Nelly but all good for 50?? C'mon now, be consistent..

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Castor G. Troy — Tue, 23 Oct 2007 19:33:56 GMT

Deep

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baynig4sho — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:23:15 GMT

@adopefemalemc WORD! you always on point.

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darrick72 — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:42:24 GMT

Fresh....for 2007. You suckaaaaazzzz!!!!!

The Teacha has spoken. Keep your damned opinions to yourself and learn.

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