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Published Thursday, July 05, 2007 12:13 PM
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By Archna Sawjani

Few anticipated that T.I. would become one of the hottest and biggest selling young artists to come out of the South. T.I. became Rap's Man of 2006 when he won the Grammy for Best Rap Solo Performance with "What You Know" and was also nominated for Best Rap Song and Best Rap Album, for the aptly titled King.

His mainstream appeal skyrocketed: He starred in his debut movie, ATL, and now has a role opposite Academy Award-winners Denzel Washington and Russell Crowe in upcoming American Gangster.

But with the good comes the ugly and T.I. has had his fair share of knock backs between his last album, King and T.I. vs. T.I.P. which is in stores now.

Five weeks after King debuted with very impressive sales, T.I. witnessed his long time friend and personal assistant Philant Johnson being gunned down by bullets the rapper is convinced were meant for him. The case remains unsolved. Then less four months before the release of T.I. vs. T.I.P., the father of five and his on-and-off girlfriend, Tameka "Tiny" Cottle, lost the daughter they were expecting.

These incidents inspired T.I. vs. T.I.P. a concept album  literally living out the classic “Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde” dilemma.

But if you, like myself, expected to hear a rap battle between the two alter egos, then you may be disappointed. T.I. vs. T.I.P. is really about the relationship between the two personalities. Just days before the album released, those two sides of Clifford Harris came to a clash at a Kevin Liles gathering in Los Angeles, and Ludacris' manager, Chaka Zulu was physically confronted. Just like the verses on his albums, T.I. - or T.I.P. has no problem keeping it real with AllHipHop.com, and provided Cliff's Notes to the album everybody's weighing in on, and clearing up the issues that left us guessing.

AllHipHop.com: So I just listened to your new album…

T.I.: You have? Okay, so what do you think?

AllHipHop.com: Well…

T.I.: Honest, give me your honest opinion.

AllHipHop.com: Don’t worry, I will. It’s okay, as you’re on the phone not face to face… I can be honest.

[T.I. laughs]

AllHipHop.com: Okay, when I first listened to King. I automatically liked it and could spot the huge singles and anthems. With T.I. vs. T.I.P., it’s harder to spot those signature anthems you have become known for. I think this album is probably a grower, something people need to listen to a few times to get into.

T.I.: Exactly, you’re right. You really have to listen to this album three to four times before you can truly understand it. If you listen to it from top to bottom, it’s just a wild ride. There’s not two of the same type of songs on this album at all.

AllHipHop.com: I definitely felt this was a personal album for yourself; it wasn’t like any of your past albums…

T.I.: Right on. I didn’t do any conventional methods when making this album. It was all abstract; it was all songs made from given situations. You know, you just mentioned that I have a formula that I use or that I’m known for the club tracks, well I wanted to step away from that. The most important thing for me was the concept and [completion] of the obligation; I had to re-enact these situations that had happened the way they happened in real life. You know? So if that meant I had to lose a couple of anthems or big singles, then so be it.

AllHipHop.com: So do you feel a constant battle in real life between these two personalities?

T.I.: Yeah, I do. I mean every day is a battle between the two, even with things like people constantly coming up for autographs. I have to stop myself from losing my patience and saying, “Okay, enough now,” and at times, the battle is a frustrating one.

AllHipHop.com: When going through the process of recording, did you feel you took one personality to the extreme over the other?

T.I.: Yeah, it was T.I.P...this album is mostly T.I.P. for sure. I mean, just because I feel he’s been suppressed for so long that he really had a lot more to say.

AllHipHop.com: As far as commercial success, wouldn’t T.I. have been a safer choice?

T.I.: Yes, absolutely it would have, but me and my homeboy for life [Philant Johnson] actually spoke about doing this album T.I. vs. T.I.P. before he [died]. When the first week sales for King came in last year, me and Philant, I believe we were on the golf course and he was like, “So what you going to do next time man, how you going to top this?”
And I said, “Now what if T.I. could do an album and T.I.P. could do an album?”
[This was at a time] when my life started to become some big tabloid story and different controversies were hitting me. I actually didn’t want to record no more. So I felt like if I was going to record another album, I was going to do the album that me and Philant spoke about doing. This is why this album is so personal to me because I knew I was doing it for him; I was doing songs that I knew he would appreciate. This was our concept, what we came up with together and this was one of the last great conversations we had.

AllHipHop.com: So you were really close to quitting…

T.I.: Nah I wasn’t close, I did quit. I was out. I was done completely. I didn’t want to do it no more. I had already made my mind up. Just because I felt the risks were too great and not in my favor. I mean I could just do films and earn more money and not have to go through any of the stuff I have to go through with music. With music... you know, I have to be in and out of these clubs and different places. I’m taking more of a risk and not earning as much money. It didn’t make any sense to me, it really didn’t. But then you know what, Phil came to me and said, “If you quit, I’ll kill you… you think we did all this work for you just to turn around and say you don’t want to do it anymore?”
And soon as he told me that, I already knew what we had to do.

AllHipHop.com: So T.I. or T.I.P., which one’s at home being the family man?

T.I.: That’s T.I.P. Anytime I’m away from the camera, lights and action, then I’m T.I.P.. For videos, photo shoots and anything where it’s about being a celebrity, then that’s T.I.. Basically, when it’s just everyday things like; doing the chores, buying groceries, decorating the lounge and disciplining the kids, then that’s T.I.P. Don’t get me wrong though; if I’m taking the family out for dinner and the restaurant is saying there’s a two hour wait then, T.I. would have to show up and use his charm to get everyone seated. That would be a time where I can use T.I..

You see T.I.P. is what comes naturally to me, it’s who I am but, T.I. requires a lot of discipline and checking T.I.P. also T.I. is the one who is constantly talking me down from certain situations. T.I.P. is what is comfortable to me but, T.I. provides the balance that I need. T.I. is basically the lesser of the two evils. [Laughs]

AllHipHop.com: On your album intro, you’re arguing with Lyor Cohen. What’s the story there?

T.I.: I mean they wanted me to do another album and I wanted to quit. It was as simple as that. You know, I called them and I said “I don’t care how much money I’ve been paid. I’m not putting out no more albums. F**k it.”

AllHipHop.com: So that’s a real conversation between you and Lyor?

T.I.: Yeah. That’s a real conversation.

AllHipHop.com: Okay, sounds like you really pissed them off!

T.I.: I mean hell yeah, I pissed them off. Exactly what I said on the intro is what I said to them, "This s**t is real." Everything in this album is real. The song “ Da Dopeman,” that’s all real, and the song “Hurt,” that’s a real situation I was going through that inspired that song. I mean this entire album is like a journal, it’s like a journal of my life day after day. The subject matters and concepts are all true. All this stuff is true. None of this album is embellished, I wanted to portray accurately my life, exactly, true-to-life, just the way it happened, word-to-word. In doing so, you may compromise a few people or situations that should be kept private but for the benefit of the project so be it.

AllHipHop.com: Okay, I have to ask what went down on last Sunday with Chaka Zulu?

T.I.: [Laughs Hard] Well T.I. was invited but, I guess T.I.P. [showed] up to the party.

AllHipHop.com: You have to give me more than that. What was the problem, why did you punch Chaka Zulu?

T.I.: Okay, listen... I’m not a person that is perfect and I have never tried to hide my imperfections from the public. I have always been the most honest, the most sincere, the most up front about anything that I have ever done, you know what I mean?

AllHipHop.com: Yeah I do…

T.I.: And I have always made it a point and stressed the fact that respect is mandatory.

AllHipHop.com: So he disrespected you?

T.I.: Yeah, yeah. I felt very disrespected, and he knows what it is and everyone around him and myself knew he was being disrespectful, and I’ve never allowed someone like that too just blatantly disrespect me and I was being provoked and antagonized, so T.I.P. just took over. I mean, like I said, respect is mandatory, I demand respect.

AllHipHop.com: So how does this affect your relationship with Ludacris?

T.I.: Me and Chris don’t have no problem, I could call him now. I just spoke to Chris the day before actually. I have no problem with Chris. Chris isn’t the one who disrespected me, Chris isn’t the one who is giving me sideways looks and eyeballing me. I ain't got no beef with Chris, it ain’t got s**t to do with him.

AllHipHop.com: What was the conversation you and Kevin Liles had after the incident?

T.I.: Ah man. Kevin was pissed as a mother f**ker, understandably so. He had a right to be angry. This was some expensive event and not only that but people got hurt, somebody’s arm got broken and there was some damage to some property.

I can understand why not only Kevin, but Julie and Lyor and everyone was upset. Everyone was hollering at me after. This wasn’t an event with kids; this was a lunch for some big people.

AllHipHop.com: Well it was good you addressed it and publicly apologized.

T.I.: I have never been a person to run from controversy or someone who would hide from my problems. I’ve always prided myself as being someone who is honest with the people, and so I thought it was a good platform for me to apologize to everyone. Honestly though, I was embarrassed as hell. I mean I have a bad temper and once I flip, it’s hard for me to stop myself. I just black out and literally, anything can happen. But when I actually came back to reality and I was on my way back to the hotel, I was like; “Man what the f**k did you just do?” I was actually ashamed... I mean the reason I was ashamed was I put Lyor , Deborah, Kevin Liles, Steven Hill and everyone in an awkward position so that’s why I needed to fix it. I mean I’m sorry, I’m really sorry. I’m trying to work on it.

AllHipHop.com: Well everyone loses there temper once in a while, it’s normal.

T.I.: Not my temper. Mine’s different. I mean, I don’t think people understand, I just can’t help myself because if I could I would have done stopped myself by now. It’s literally like something takes over me.

AllHipHop.com: So can I ask your opinion on something?

T.I.: Of course you can.

AllHipHop.com: On "Watch What You Say To Me," in your opinion, is he going at Lil' Wayne?

T.I.: [Laughs] I don’t know that, I can’t speak for Jay.

AllHipHop.com: Okay, but your opinion? You’ve obviously listened to it; it’s on your album.

T.I.: I don’t know... I’m going to have to re-listen. Is that what you think? What part do you think he’s going at Wayne?

AllHipHop.com: Well when Jay says, “his DNA is in his music.”

T.I.: I don’t know. Honestly, I don’t know. I can get Jay on the phone and ask, but I don’t know.

AllHipHop.com: Okay, I can wait, you want to call Jay now?

T.I.: [Laughs] Well, not now, but I'll email him and forward his answer to you.

AllHipHop.com: Yeah right. [Laughs] I have to speak to you about American Gangster, that film looks brilliant…

T.I.: American Gangster is a phenomenal film. I think it is one of the most significant films for our culture in a very long time. It’s absolutely a phenomenal story, not even just a story about being gangsters, but about society and also about two different people from two very different walks of life who are so, so, so different and yet somewhat the same at the same time. The film is like a Black Sopranos.

AllHipHop.com: What about your character?

T.I.: I play Frank Lucas’s nephew and Common actually plays my father.

AllHipHop.com: Common plays your father? He doesn’t look old enough to play your father...

T.I.: [Laughs] I know, I know. They had him dressed up with the makeup and whatnot but he pulled it off, he pulled it off. He made me believe he was pops.

AllHipHop.com: So what does the future hold for you… more albums?

T.I.: I mean, yeah, there will be more albums... not only T.I. albums, but people around me like; Young Dro, Governor, Big Kuntry, DJ Drama's official Gangstas Grillz album coming soon of course, Rashad, I mean there’s tons of talent within the camp. Lots of stuff to look out for.


Comments

 

TreyPeezyDotCom said:

Shout to the homie TI. It sucks that his ALBUM was leaked a week before it's release, although thats pretty good. Cuz it's usually out way before then.

I listen to the ALBUM once so far it is mas o menos. Not that great. SERIOUS was a classic PEOPLE! But hey he is a smart business man. AND THE TI vs TIP concept was great, and promoted very well but not demonstrated clearly on the album.

(Oh yeah just to let u no CASSIDY did the split personality thing first if you didnt remember.)

But nice article, I have some TI exclusives I will release to the world pretty soon so keep tabs on me. I already posted that joint with SLEEPY BROWN that didn't make the album!

Keep up the good work AHH!
July 5, 2007 1:54 PM
 

babesblingandbooze said:

"TI vs TIP" is the bizness...even better than "King"



http://babesblingandbooze.blogspot.com/
July 5, 2007 2:56 PM
 

ZONE6-ATLIEN said:

That was a good interview. But when HE spoke on the album and he said that u have to listen to the album 3 or 4 times to feel it that's kinda true but in another interview he says that the album is a classic and that u can compare it to Reay to Die,Aquemini and other classic albums.  Well if the album is a classic why do we have to listen to it 3 or 4 times just to feel it.  Classic albums u listen to it once and u know its a classic.    TI vs TIP is an average album and its not one of his better albums.  I think he was hyping people up so his first week record sale will look good
July 5, 2007 3:29 PM
 

regithug said:

its a good album,but not as good as espected.he still one of the best out there.
July 5, 2007 3:52 PM
 

delvec001 said:

Tip went way too soft on this album...
its a 6.5 out of 10...
he shouldve had the two egos fighting and cursing each other out more...
July 5, 2007 3:55 PM
 

blue smoke said:

the album is a classic. every song is fire fucc the haterz u niggas can go and put your m c hammer cd s bacc in your players
July 5, 2007 4:17 PM
 

KJRfromDC said:

I'm a T.I. fan no question!....But this album AIN'T a classic but it's good....Zone 6 said it perfectly, a CLASSIC album isn't an album you should have to listen to several times....which is what T.I. said about his OWN album....Personally, when I say it didn't meet expectations that in NO way means the album was bad....it's like saying I expected him to go out on the court and score 50 points, but he only scored 40....he didn't meet my expectations but he still had a good game....regardless, T.I. still the BEST in the game right now period....Why do you clown ass niggas on here misuse the term HATIN??!! Hatin when you dislike or negative towards someone or something for NO APPARENT OR LOGICAL REASON.....Hatin is NOT when you give your personal opinion and have some logical reason behind it...
July 5, 2007 4:32 PM
 

odeisel said:

good interview.  I like TI and I'm gonna buy his album cause i got all the other ones  but i think he's taking the whole jekyll and hyde thin too far.  a disjointed personality leads to a disjointed album and truth to tell with that the shit he's been through this year, he already has the ammo.  He's gotta be careful because right now Jeezy is filling his "I'm serious" spot,  and Lil wayne is starting to occupy his "king" spot so he needs to really dig in and bewho he is not not try to be two different things
July 5, 2007 5:13 PM
 

billsofresh said:

good dude..good interview..i liked da cd..but i copped it da same time i copped p.troys joint..n i been bangin dat 1 hard..but t.i, bang thou 2..iono bout classic..but in its own rite..it got rank
July 5, 2007 5:43 PM
 

jus1 said:

T.I. is my cat! I have not heard his new CD all the way thru yet but so far I like it. As far as whether Jay is talkin to Lil Wayne / not, I believe that he is! Plus I believe he is talkin to whoever want it........ But who in the hell is Lil Wayne any way......All he does to fool you ( the average rap fan that don't know no betta & that jock errthang that they think is hot)  is saturate the rap game w/ all these bullshit ass mix cd's! I mean half the time he ain't talkin bout nuthin, all he doing is makin words rhyme......Plus any nigga that kiss another man in the mouth is gay! Right therre is whole credibility is shot (I don't give a damn)! But we in this down low age, where it seem like anything is acceptable & thats exactly what yall doing aceepting the bullshit that he puts out! (Think about it , yall did not start jockin this nigga until the first Carter Cd! Plus he is the only thing that Cash Money got going for them!) All his early albums w/ the exception of a few hit singles herre & therre were bullshit! Jay has had quality Cd after Cd & still is @ the top of the game! Peep game people & stop going for the b.s.......be an individual & dare to stand alone instead of following errbodyelse.......One more thing if Pac was alive these gay ass niggas would not be able to breathe!
July 5, 2007 8:29 PM
 

dirtybalance said:

I was lucky enough to be living in The A when TI really got hot. There was a time when"blowin Dro on 24's" was that street athem. Being a New Yorker, I didn't get it at first but thena few of my yung folk made me really listen to dude and yo..... I could not deny that the kid was mad nice and seriously reppin his city. I think if not for the brother TI then alot of the trap music of that era wouldn't been made. I've supported the cat on the last two albums(store bought, not bootlegs) and I intend to support this one too. I was really glad him and Luda beef didn't escalate cause that would have been bad. I live in Phoenix now and I never thought I would miss that Dirty South music but I do and I can't wait to hear Outkast drop the next joint. Andre 3000 is showing up on joints now and the big homie is kickin that really real! Young and Lil rappers fall back !!
July 5, 2007 9:05 PM
 

blue smoke said:

i believe jigga is talking to wayne also. it's a shame how people could say waynes babbling ass is hot but someone like t.i gets labeled as wack. lil wayne is everything ya fav rapper should not b that niggas a fraud. in 99: bling bling. in 07:i'm blooded soo woop. wayne wears thongs.
July 5, 2007 10:51 PM
 

kelvin31063 said:

I'm a T.I/T.I.P. fan to the heart and i preordered the new LP but i havent heard it yet cuz i'm currently deployed and mail travels slow. I know he did his thing and i will have to hear for myself cuz so many people are biased on Southern Music. I also got that P. Troy too which i know is going to be HOT!!! Just to correct "TreyPeezyDotCom". T.I. did it before Cassidy. He didn't do an entire album on it but on August 19, 2004 he dropped Trap Muzik. I'm sure you heard of it. Track number 12 was titled T.I. vs. T.I.P. and it was a battle between the two. Cassidy dropped Split Personality on March 16, 2004 so if you look at the dates... you are definately... WRONG. Just know your facts before you state em cuz people like me WILL call you out on em. And you try to make your OPINION credible by saying SERIOUS was a classic... which is in fact a classic.  Be honest... you probably didn't hear that album until a couple of years until AFTER it was released.
July 5, 2007 11:06 PM
 

kenny1234 said:

T.I.  BEST ALBUM WAS TRAP MUZICK HANDS DOWN THEN URBAN LEDGEND. THIS NEW JOINT IS CON OF IFFY SO IM WATING ON COMMON KANYE AND 50 .ILL I JUST SPIT LOL
July 5, 2007 11:45 PM
 

tmoney82 said:

whey is everbody hating on wayne. i mean yall must be some east coast dumb asses. sorry if i come off kind of harsh but,jay is nice, but wat have he done lately. who hot right now and is on everbody song(wayne). i think you people are just bias and just over hype about jay. i listen to jay older stuff and i didnt like it, didnt know wat all the hype was really about. the blue print i really like. it was a album u could just ride to. and to say wayne is fake how real is jay. to say jay will murda wayne in a battle, i think it would be closer than u think. he still havent fully recover from nas.
July 6, 2007 12:17 AM
 

L-GUTTAH said:

I agree wit Jus 1. I don't know how people could possibly call that homo ass nigga wayne they favorite artist. Am I supposed to actually believe that his little ass is gon pop sumthin and make somebody heartbeat stop??!!?? (LOL LOL LOL) who ever claimin wayne like dat is crazy

N E way the homy T.I. is doing his thing n e way that's rarely seen 4 hood niggaz. From c.d's to the big screen. that's a good luck. I didn't hit best buy to get the album yet (I'll probly do that this weekend) but regardless of what the album sounds like, T.I.P. is a real nigga so I could support that
July 6, 2007 12:40 AM
 

kelvin31063 said:

I like wayne but i'm not his biggest fan. Dude is NICE though. For people to say he doesn't do what he talks about...who can prove it? Jay-Z stabs somebody and mushes some woman in the face makes him REAL and bout what he says? I'm not defending any of the two but i'm from g.a. and i think new orleans is one of the roughest places to grow up and not to mention cash money was one of the HARDEST groups of the past decade. new york is also a rough place too but remember Jay used to dribble down in VA. Jay is no gangsta and he really don't claim to be but people make him out of one.If anything he is a Corporate Thug... haha....yeaaaaaaa. sorry bout the ad libs( i think thats how to spell it)
July 6, 2007 12:57 AM
 

kutty0509 said:

TI IS THE MAN HE DONT NEED A CLUB SONG TO PUT HIM OVER THE TOP HE'S ALREADY THERE THE ALBUM IS ONE U GOT TO LISTEN TO
July 6, 2007 2:02 AM
 

blue smoke said:

if wayne is nice quote one of his recent lines. the nigga said: why u got that ice grill on i make u look look like u got a bbq grill on. if that is hot u def can't say t.i shit is wacc go to you tube where gillie is gettin on tha nigga. all wayne fans go find baby and kiss him too.
July 6, 2007 6:41 AM
 

lexilex said:

As a fan of TI's, it didn't take me no three or four listens... I been listening for five albums now...I been knew the history of TI vs TIP from Trap Muzik (album 2)... so it is a classic..... it just kinda sucks that TI won... Tip goes soooo hard.
July 6, 2007 8:54 AM
 

Mad-Mic said:

yo wayne didnt make the term bling bling he just made it famous 2pac used it first the bar went "look at my diamonds and how they shine Bling Bling" old pac just wanted to put that out and if someone wanna try to challenge this hit me up i will let you know song title and point in song he says it.  But that new T.I.P album is dope some tracks couldve gotten left out but I dont know why you would have to listen to it 3 or 4 times its dope on the first run to me especially that track "Tell em I said That" which should be his next single after that you know what it is.  that song is dope and it goes at cats thats fake in the industry cuz, "these niggas aint cool, what they rab about these niggas aint do, hear em say it, but it really aint true, you niggas aint true, you niggas aint really tote tools, dont be no fool you betta take yo ass to school.  these niggas aing G, Gangstas something these niggas cant be, what you expect these niggas aint me, these niggas aint rich, these niggas aint really gettin bricks, its official man these niggas aint shit tell em I said that."
July 6, 2007 8:55 AM
 

J. Flizzle said:

that nigga weird but that album bumpin i fuk wit em
July 6, 2007 8:55 AM
 

JAH-MALE THE 1 said:

T.I.  Tip whatever he is is that nigga
July 6, 2007 11:06 AM
 

BIGFOOT AKA CAINE 34TH said:

YO T.I COOL BUT TIP I COULD MAKE MONEY WIT A NIGGA LIKE THAT AND THATS MY SHIT TELL EM I SAID THAT WORD TO DING LOC FREE SCRAPPY LOC
July 6, 2007 11:27 AM
 

odeisel said:

hey kelvin31063 slick rick did it 20 years ago, redman did it 15 years ago, and trae lee did a whole album like that 10 years ago.  if you gon check somebody on that you gotta keep it one hunit
July 6, 2007 11:39 AM
 

doeboi5000 said:

T.I. VS T.I.P. is a classic in my opinion...it's what hip-hop has been asking for..didnt we want authenticity & creativty? and not just another formulaic album? Tip gave that to us...and I cant wait till he shuts down all competition with this album...
July 6, 2007 12:53 PM
 

kelvin31063 said:

Excuse me odeisel... i never said he was the very 1st to do it. i said he did it before Cassidy. I'm sure someone else my have did it before them also but we probably don't listen to that type of music. You ever heard the saying... no idea is original? So sorry to burst your balls but you didn't call me out on anything
July 6, 2007 1:01 PM
 

Trot Focused said:

Jesus Christ, this nigga really need to stop with this TI vs TIP shit. What is he talkin' about?? And why is he refferin' to his self in the 3rd person??
" I have to stop myself from losing my patience"
Nigga what!? THATS NORMAL!! just because you have a temper or react certain ways to different situations dont make you two people...it means YOU'RE NORMAL. This lil ass nigga is mad annoying. Nigga, you're Clifford Harris, TI, TIP, TV, TGIF or whatever the fuck ....those are stage names...calm down.

by the way, the album is soft. I'm goin' and bump my Trap Muzik and my Urban Legend

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July 6, 2007 1:24 PM
 

blaccstar40 said:

its not better than urban legends.. when he killed lil flip on damn near every tracc
July 6, 2007 2:14 PM
 

hotrock11 said:

i bought the album because i'm a fan of his music....even though i thought the album was subpar at best. At least with an album like....Rich Boy's for example, you knew what you were getting. Tight beats that covered up average lyrics with an overall huge replay value. This album though...it's something you buy just to say you have it. Like a statue or a glass vase - you aren't going to use it for nothing else expect decoration.
July 6, 2007 3:23 PM
 

Polyhedron said:

I can't stand most shit coming from the south, but this TI vs TIP album got me.. The production is not only booming for the trunks and all that but is musically diverse & intricate and for most of the tracks TI is actually talking about something rather than boasting about whips, chips and candy paint.  King was cool but this is dude's best album IMO, one I can actually listen to from beginning to end.
July 6, 2007 4:50 PM
 

Polyhedron said:

oh and Cassidy may have done it before with that bullshit album..  but his whole thing was weak.  Here you have a really dope battle rapper who kills Freeway in a battle and is well regarded, and then he comes out with bullshit like "Hotel" and "It's ya song Ma".  It wasn't him.  He created that other "personality" artificially.  We saw a little more of what was really him with "I'm a Hustla".. too bad he got arrested.

To compare Cassidy's piece of shit first album with TI vs TIP is hilarious.  They're not in the same league.  Cass may have done the "split personality" album first but it sucked.
July 6, 2007 4:55 PM
 

Grumpy said:

TI got 'IT', whatever 'IT' is. I ain't mad at him.


'What has Jay done lately?'

And that, people, is the problem with you short-term, fickle minded 'fans'. How soon you forget...

Dude held it down for 10 SUMMERS...10...TEN...DIEZ

Name another who did that?

The whole Cash Money roster at it's peak didn't do it. Not for 10. 'Fluff' and his whole roster, BIG included didn't. The whole Ruff Ryders couldn't.

Hell, the whole left coast didn't after Snoop and Dre left.

Easy to snap on Jordan after he moves to the Owner's Box...
July 6, 2007 6:37 PM
 

Korean Slapper said:

Dude didn't keep it funky...too involved with the flow I guess
July 6, 2007 7:17 PM
 

dirgeKananga said:

Please, folk, T.I. nor Cassidy were the first the to do a split personality record.  It's been done hundreds of times, even before either of those two were out or born for that matter.  Do the history, please.  There is not one mainstream rapper out in the last 10 years doing anything that hasn't been done before.  If the only cats you all know about are those on TV or radio, then I feel sorry for you...real headz check the mainstream AND dig in the crates...
July 6, 2007 7:49 PM
 

K_ShreveportLA318 said:

T.I. vs. T.I.P. is aiight but i like the fact that T.I. changed it up a lil bit.  Every rapper do it at on time or another it's just that some make it hot and some don't.  How many times can you trap and kill people on a cd w/o the fans gettin tired of it example Young Jeezy and Young Joc.  Jay-Z can flow, Lil Wayne can flow, plus other rappers can flow, It's enough room for everybody to shine.  Jay had to grow, he didn't start off rapping as good now Lil Wayne growing.  One man don't have to be the King of Rap.
July 6, 2007 11:45 PM
 

TheGovernment said:

Can he stop making believe that he has a split personality? The whole T.I vs T.I.P is corny already....
July 7, 2007 12:02 AM
 

ralphy said:

Public Service Announcment:
THIS FOR ALL YALL HATIN ASS NIGGAS HATIN ON WAYNE
every cd he has came out with went platinum except for one that nobody knew about and it went gold I think he put out all these mixtapes out to let niggas see why he the best jay z didn't start to get all of this attention until he retired now all of a sudden he is the best the when cash money was together all they had was quadruple platinum so what they did in one summer took jay z 4   that's less than half of his supposed reign then as soon as that nigga said bling bling the whole world jumped on that any nigga don't see that is an idiot when has jay said something that influenced theWORLD  all yall niggas saying wayne can't see jay in a battle is an asshole yall the type a niggas who would let jay step in shit then put his feet on you fuck boys the type who be like well that's jay so he could do it any real nigga would go back at no matter who he is or what he supposed to be what was the last gangsta line jay ever dropped "i make it rain " jay z
so in the words of the dick yall niggas is riding "men lie women lie NUMBERS DON'T "
July 7, 2007 2:21 PM
 

calitrap$tar said:

T.i o T.i.P which ever.....keep on breaking them bones they gon' hate regardless...u are going mainstream tho...maybe keep it a lil hood cuz u do it do it dance move aint looking tight at all!
July 7, 2007 3:41 PM
 

shakedownjey said:

I think the album does grow on you. most all classics are slept on and grow on you to be honest.  the t.i. vs. t.i.p. shit does get a little annoying tho but if you think about alot of people have their alter egos that they battle with.
July 8, 2007 2:35 AM
 

chicagolove said:

I was just gonna read the comments and not post myself until I read the one from ralphy you got to be 13 to 16 years old or on drugs or just dumb as fuck or all of the above. You say when was the last time j said something to influence the world, not only as he influence the hiphop world he has influeneced the rapper you are defending you can  see it all in his flow, J had people changeing there dress code, drinkking what he drinks etc.etc  and if I am not mistaken all of j's cd's went platinum or more maybe not the first when it was released but it did later so stop being so damn narrow minded, at least yo dumb ass got a computer now use it to learn something
July 8, 2007 4:46 AM
 

ralphy said:

i was just venting jay is a beast no lie but all you niggas saying that wayne cannot rap is retarded that nigga been holding it down since the squad up mixtapes go check that out to see how he got where he is today thats crazy they just said wayne name once and now everybody decided to talk about this about ole tipdrill
July 8, 2007 10:53 AM
 

KJRfromDC said:

Ralphy, how fuckin old r u!!!!! First off, you can't just go by numbers (i.e. you think the massacre or any of Nelly's albums were better than A couple of TI's or Jay's album or the Carter 1??!!!) But Nelly and 50 sales are crazy!!! And i'm an eastcoast nigga but I had all of No Limit and Cashmoney albums startin in the "90's and Weezy WASN"T even the best out of his OWN crew let alone the BEST period! From the Carter on, Weezy a beast , he my man...but before that he was SOME SHIT...I don't acre what his records sold!  YOU probably JUST heard block is hot, etc....and since his dick is already so far down your throat, you'll force yourself to say that old shit is HOT....And a side note for you stat boy, Weezy wasn't sellin nearly as much as Juve, ask Baby and Slim that!! And you talkin' bout influencin'. r u serious?! Here's a couple quotes for ya..."In My Lifetime nigga go do your research...." Jay was hollerin bout Cris and platinum "when all them other niggas just thought it was beer and silver"..To sum this up, Weezy my man but he's not better than TI let alone Jay....Maybe I'll reconsider when he comes out with a few more CONSISTENT albums, NOT mixtapes when u use other people beats, short verses etc.

AND KIDS, please know what the fuck u talkin about BEFORE you comment, THANK YOU.
Shout out to CHICAGOLOVE, who KNEW what he was talkin bout!
July 8, 2007 11:44 AM
 

KJRfromDC said:

And would y'all niggas STOP misusin the term HATIN! Hatin is when you dislike or show negativity towards something or someone for NO apparent or logical reason....Hatin is NOT when you offer an opinion that can be backed up by some sort of factual info or logical reasoning!!!
July 8, 2007 12:02 PM
 

iznukleus4 said:

Fuck TI..the album is fuckin horrible! LilL Wayne is the KING OF THE SOUTH..  Wayne would take TI's lunch if they were to battle..
July 8, 2007 7:32 PM
 

gullyjuice_ahh said:

Great interview.  I like the kid.  Dude is a talented artist.  Like OD said, that kid wayne is coming for that spot.  I don't like Wayne (kissing a man on the lips is not a go under any circumstances...) like that, but he's been dropping a lot of good lyrics lately...
July 9, 2007 12:19 AM
 

blue smoke said:

well if u think he drop good lyrics fill me in b cuz that nigga is ass cheeks and he cant fucc wit t.i. lyrically i listened to c y people say wayne is hot and i just dont get it. either the niggas listenin is just lost or it's going ova my head and i don't think it's going ova my cuz i got a extensive list of classics (ex:the chronic,niggas 4 life remember them?)in my cd collection. lyrically t.i. will mop the floor wit weezy fucked baby on his worst day.
July 9, 2007 11:46 AM
 

OneTightSista said:

And for you youngins out there...no disrespect...but Cassidy was NOT the first person to battle his alter ego on CD - it was REDMAN on Whut? Thee Album!!!! Redman vs. Reggie Noble.

GET IT RIGHT! Cassidy aint do SHIT first, he's aight, but come on.
July 9, 2007 1:21 PM
 

OneTightSista said:

And thank you KJR from DC...all this Wayne hype is starting to B-low mw (I'm from DC too :-)

Can someone tell me when it became acceptable to rap about things you don't know? Wayne is NOT a gangster...was NEVER a histler...and hasn't been on nobody's street since he STARTED rapping. I thought you had to be from it to rap it!!! I have heard niggas say in the industry that Baby and them scooped him up young so he never had the CHANCE to hustle. So he is committing the first federal offense in rap...talkin it but aint living it. Then kissing Baby and all of this...he does not YET deserve to be compared to Jay. All you latecomers to Jay...its cuz you not on his level and apparently never will be. Allllll the REAL street cats from around my way fuck wit Jay...cuz he speaks the truth and he's smart. Wayne still has growing to do so please people...let Wayne stay in his lane and talk about some REAL shit before you make him a "great" anything.
July 9, 2007 1:33 PM
 

SilkySm00thC0coButtaSkn said:

kelvin31063...do you even know what Jay meant by saying he use to "dribble down in VA?" Obviously not.
July 9, 2007 4:03 PM
 

GreyGoose09 said:

Much respect to that boy T.I.. He always keeps it real. He reminds me alot of Tupac 4real.... Tha way he don't just talk it... but he live that stuff too. Not many rappers, especially big name rappers, do that these dayz. And as far as tha album... it's cool... i agree wit u havin' to really sit down and listen to it a couple of times. It's not a classic, but he gave tha game something to talk about... which iz more than u can say for most hip-hop artist right now.
July 9, 2007 4:17 PM
 

SilkySm00thC0coButtaSkn said:

Ralphy....you're right, the numbers don't lie.....

Top Billboard 200 debuts...
Reasonable Doubt: #23
Tha Block is Hot: #3

In My Lifetime: #3
Lights Out: #16

Hard Knock Life: #1 (dropped the same day Outkast dropped Aquemini, and that album got 5 mics in the Source while Hard Knock got 4 1/2, just in case you were too young to understand those numbers back then)
500 Degrees: #6

Life and Times of S.Carter: #1
Tha Carter: #5

Dynasty Roc La Familia: #1
That Carter II: #2

and then you got the blueprint and so on, all took the number one spot when they dropped, and just to let you know, none of the Hot Boyz albums came out at number one neither did Like Father, Like Son. Oh, and I did cop Wayne's first two albums, his last two, and Hot Boyz Guerilla Warfare so no need to say I don't support Weezy F. Baby, but like you said, the numbers don't lie.

July 9, 2007 4:33 PM
 

ralphy said:

on some real nigga shit ja y z is a beast he did his thing he contributed a lot he influenced a lot but in my opinion most of yall niggas is from the east coast and is trying to downplay wayne's skill because he claimed jay spot wayne can rap it dont matter wether he the best or not yall can not lie and say everything he ever dropped from singles mixtapes albums is all garbage wayne is the most lyrical nigga in the game i bet yall would try and downplay tip skills if he would have came out and said he the king of the rap game but since he just claimed the south yall aint have nothing to say
fuck with them new orleans nigga funeral
i come from where the niggas just kill to save energy
so all yall bitch ass niggas stop coming at my neck
July 9, 2007 10:25 PM
 

paprchasr said:

Im tired of all the these North and East Coast fans not giving Southern rappers credit when they deserve it.  Im not much of a Redman fan but I respect his work...  I know for a fact that T.I. did his thing before Cassidy.  T.I. had a song called T.I. vs. T.I.P. on Trap Muzik, released around the spring of 03, track number 12 where he did all of the rappin back and forth arguing with himself, so that's old.  Cassidy's  didn't drop until Feb. 2004.  

And as far as Tip's album is concerned... listen to it, there is more lyrical content than any of his other albums had... since yall think that down south rappers are not lyrical.  All and all T.I. vs. T.I.P. is a classic, so stop hatin

Hip Hop is not dead... It's living in the South
July 10, 2007 1:47 PM
 

bnreal80 said:

jay goin at wayne no doubt. u cant tell me he aint. i like wayne i like jay and i like t.i... good interview. i met t.i man. he cool, and from what i know he real.. he jus like us. that stuff u hear in his raps be real talk. thats why u dont get all the metaphors and stuff. but he got a flow and the way he portrys his words i respect that.. be easy pimpin
July 10, 2007 3:31 PM
 

paprchasr said:

bnreal80 is right... a lot of people don't understand the southern slang so they don't get the metaphors they throw out there... it's so many people out there that didn't know what wayne meant when he said " I like my sprite Easter pink" cause they don't live that life.
July 10, 2007 3:51 PM
 

ImJusSayinTho! said:

First let me say that i like Jay, T.I., and Wayne. I'm not even going to state which one I think is better because its my opinion and like a**holes we all have one.
However, I just have to bring up a point. Why in the world would dude call himself Weezy "F." Baby...man everytime i say, type, or read that damn name the only thing that comes to mind is "what an idiot"
Weezy "fuckin" baby...come on now he's clownin himself. PPB(thats period point blank for u non's). He is fully aware of all the bullsh*t being said about him and baby and "the kiss". Ok so maybe he's like me and doesnt give a damn about what people say about him. But for cryin out damn loud, why would u then walkin around tellin folks to say "weezy f baby please say the baby" that just sounds homo to me.
weezy fuckin baby, please say the baby. wtf???
now again im not sayin hes a wack artist but that name and those lines seriously make me wonder if he rode the short bus. That shit aint even subliminal its blatant! some shit u say when u wit yo dude or you girl doin the grown up.
its just not cool not cool at all!!!!!!
July 10, 2007 7:09 PM
 

hater hurter said:

interview was ok but if his ass went to jail because of his temper then its different then everyone else. His albums are always good but not classics. if they were then they would get played on the radio during lunch when they play classic songs from classic albums.  just listen to who they always play (2pac,biggie,outkast,snoop,dre,ghetto boys,nelly,50cent,lil wayne, juvinile,fugees). If he truly had a classic album then at least one song from it would get played.  but he is still tight and i do think "you know what it is" might be that song if this album does end up being a classic. hopefully so
July 10, 2007 8:28 PM
 

Renaissance Man » Hip-Hop Rumors: T.I. and TIP TO GO GOLD IN A WEEK!? said:

July 11, 2007 8:04 AM
 

fashionoverstyle said:

Look, T.I. is a phenomenal person. He fools a lot of people but once you're around dude, you realize the fact that education doesn't make intelligence, life does. T.I. has been growing up in Westside Atlanta and he grasped onto a lot of things that happened there. He gained intelligence when he overcame certain obstacles. He's a brilliant person and I think he knows exactly what he's doing. I got his album the morning it came out and I didn't have to listen to it 3 or 4 times to understand the concept of it. He always had faith in himself to become known in the world but he knew he had to change who he really was and he had no problem with that because he still holds on to that old person which is T.I.P.  I admire him for that because now you know he never forgot where he came from but he always knew it wasnt best to show it all the time.
July 11, 2007 4:40 PM
 

ATLVeteran said:

We will soon see what kind of guy TI/TIP is. Gucci Mane, a East Atlanta nigga with street cred is handling TIP on his diss song "What Kinda King?" like he a "little bitty boy". Basically its some old Atlanta shyt - Westside vs. Eastside. IF YOU ARE A KING YOU CAN'T ALLOW PEASANTS WHO RESIDE WITHIN YOUR CASTLE TO THROW ROCKS AT YOU. BECAUSE OTHER PEASANTS WILL BE LIKE "I CAN DO IT TOO". And the next thing you know they'll kill the King in his OWN courtyard. Bottom Line: GUCCI MANE GOTTA DIE FOR THIS ONE. TI been talking all this killer shyt for a minute, I ain't doubting it, but this is a direct attack from the inside. THOSE KIND OF ATTACKS MUST BE ELIMINATED. If Tip don't take Gucci Mane out over this then I ain't listening to anything else out of his mouth and I might not listen to his old stuff anymore. ONCE YOU ARE PROVEN TO BE A FRAUD - THEN YOU JUST GET A LAUGH FROM THEN ON.
July 11, 2007 4:39 PM
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