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NYOil: Slick Talker
Published Friday, July 04, 2008 3:23 PM
By Seneca "The Beast" Doss

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Delivering the truth in both context and lyrical poise is Staten Island wordsmith NYOIL. Not a mainstream rapper by any means, his truth to ear lyrical approach  spurns unworthy MCs that fluster the mainstream Hip-Hop scene. The rapper’s candor, and lyrical skills, has warranted him the label of a man not to be reckoned with.

 

With more buzz escalating about him, Babygrande Records is re-releasing NYOil's highly acclaimed indie album Hood Treason on July 8th. We got some time to build with the NY rap vet and to pick his brain on a few topics [read: Nas and that album “title”]. Take note of the gems.

 

 

AllHipHop.com: So for those who don’t know, what is NYOIL and what does it represent?

 

NYOIL:  Well you know, "NY" represents the great state of New York and showing in the way I represent that to me - represents the foundation core of Hip-Hop, and "OIL"... it has a couple of meanings. One aspect is... one time a brother said to me that the entertainment business is to Blacks what oil is to Arabs. I was like, “Wow that’s heavy man,” and so that spoke volumes to the name but this was after I had began going by NYOIL.

 

All of us know oil is black gold. It is considered black gold, but I consider the Black man, the Black woman and the Black child my black gold. So in the process for getting oil you gotta dig deep, it’s an intrusive process to extract fossil fuel. Well NYOIL is an intrusive process. I’m rough on them, I’m hard shining lyrically on dudes in terms of what I’m saying. I’m digging deep and I’m going deep. My lyrical content is deep and I’m trying to do work. I’m reaching that fossil fuel that was the foundation that was laid by the ancestors and the elders. It’s transcendent in this Hip-Hop, it’s a Black thing. 

 

AllHipHop.com: You’re pushing a movement, but were held up for a moment when YouTube shut you down for a minute because of your controversial video for “Y’all Should All Get Lynched.” What where you trying to accomplish or say through that record in particular?

 

NYOIL: Well you know the thing is man, that’s a question that I’m often asked, "What were you trying to accomplish?" It’s a natural question, when you look at it from an industry perspective. But for the sake of answering it adequately, it will require you to have to change your paradigm and not just look at it from an industry perspective, but to look at it as just a man. Look at it as a father and as a Black man that’s living in this world and experiencing this world.

 

I’m not a thug, I’m not no drug dealer, I’m not a crook, I’m not no trick, this is not the lifestyle that I live. I’m a man, I’m a father, I’m a community person. When I came home from Maryland fam, and I seen the conditions of the neighborhood… I was outraged and I’m looking at it saying what’s influencing these kids? And the first thing I see is Hip-Hop because I’m an MC. Hip-Hop is the freaking soundtrack of my life. I’m sure Hip-Hop is the soundtrack to yours, especially if you’re a writer. So you see how and you know a lot of people try to fake like they don’t know, but you know and I know how much of this music influences people.

 

I spoke as an artist in that song... that was an artist expressing himself in “Yall Should All Get Lynched” It wasn’t purposed, it's just… it was what is was. It wasn’t a plot and I understand the way it comes across and I ain’t taking no outrage to it at all. I understand it perfectly, but it just really wasn’t that fam. I was just pissed the f**k off. I can’t take it no more, so I gotta say something and I can only speak from where I exist. I exist in Hip-Hop, so I can speak to that. I can speak to this issue there. I couldn’t speak to it as a teacher because I’m not an educator. I couldn’t speak to it as a politician, I’m not a politician. I’m an MC.

 

AllHipHop.com: How did you derive your style?

 

NYOIL: Like the way I rhyme? I had a hard time with your question just now. I was trying to vibe on it, but it’s not my style, as much as my person. This is the quality of man that I am and that doesn’t necessarily say that’s it’s a good or bad thing because depending on the scenario, that could be a great thing depending on where in converse it could be terrible. For example, you know… we trying to go to the party and you too deep and you might be a big ol' wet towel like… come on man, you too deep - I’m trying to have a good time. But you know when it’s time to get deep, and people need somebody that can build on an issue, then you right on point.

 

The type of person that I am, I’m introspective and I’m thoughtful. I’m not necessarily always right. I don’t purport the beef, and I’m not even trying to be always right. I’m just trying to be sincere. I just want to be 100. I want to be able to say that, you could write about me or he could listen to my music and you might not agree with my politics but you could say, “Yo… I f**k’s with NYOIL. Man that dude B, he mean that s**t. This s**t is not  an act, he’s not acting like he loves his people, he not acting like he loves this music, he not acting like he wants a better world. This is how this muthaf**ker gets down.”

 

I know dudes that’s good dudes, but they focus be the chicks. I know dudes that they focus be that weed. They got the smokes, they life is revolved around certain things. They a full human being, but they life revolve around a certain thing and I think that I’m a full human being who’s life revolves around a particular thing; making music. I come from MC’ing and not from rapping, and I hate making the distinction because it’s going to sound like backpackers but whatever. I can rhyme anyway. I can do any style of rhyme. I come from where you have to rhyme, you gotta have a sixteen of any type… you got the sex rhymes. You got the, I’ll kill you dead rhymes, the punch lines rhymes, the funny rhymes and the rhyme for your girl. You gotta have all of this. I come from that age of rapping you feel me? MC’ing. So to answer the question to what's my influence… my influence is really just a lot of stuff.

 

AllHipHop.com: How much value do you place on being original?

 

NYOIL: Well in this world it almost don’t have any value.

 

AllHipHop.com: How did you link up with Babygrande?

 

NYOIL: Son sent me an email…like, “You want to put out an album commercially?” I was [like] “OK,”, and that was the end of that. I figured it would be a great opportunity for me to expand a brand and make more people aware of what I’m doing because I been on lockdown with my team. We had plans that transcend before Babygrande ever came into the picture, but we had maxed out a lot of things. For me personally, I’m responsible for a lot of things that I’ve done, but a lot of things I’ve done would not have been possible without the team that I have. But from what I’ve done, I kinda maxed out.

 

I was thankful to God that I had my dude YZ on board and my man NES to get on board because their energy helped to take it further, but when the Babygrande thing came through… I was like, Wow man thank God. You can’t front on me now, I’m not a dude that just puts out his music on the internet. My stock reach has more value, if I say something now people gotta listen more because I’m not just some scam saying something. I’m a bonafide artist that a company felt strong enough about to invest they money in to some extent. But it’s a good look and we’ll see how it pans out.             

 

AllHipHop.com: On your Hood Treason, you got a track called “Soldier” with Chuck D. That’s a big look—are there any other rappers that you respect enough to wanna work with?

 

NYOIL: For him to do that was like a big look for me because we talking luck because Chuck had like 13 other songs that he was supposed to do that day and he like bumped me all the way to the front. It was incredible and I can not thank him enough for that opportunity to do that aside from the fact that he is another big influence on the fact that as in all that I represent…what I’m representing as graciously and as focused as he represented in P.E.

 

[Chuck D] and Professor Griff are excellent examples of what revolutionary, pro-Black, socially minded brothers can be in Hip-Hop. That being said, I would love to do songs with YZ even though he’s my manager, you know, we got to settle some things on a track. I want to do tracks with a lot of people that are conscious. I want to do a lot of tracks with people that’s nice...real MC dudes. I would like to do something with Immortal Technique and Talib Kweli. I really dig Mos Def, I think son is ridiculous. I would like to do something with Little Brother. I want to be able to do things with dudes were I can be creative and have fun.

 

AllHipHop.com: Speaking of Chuck D, how do you feel about Flavor Flav?

 

NYOIL: Flavor Flav is like the brother that you used to look up to that got locked up on some bulls**t, and you're mad at him. You're mad because you love him. Flavor Flav represents the institution just as Chuck D and Professor Griff and Brand Nubian does. So when Chuck is saying deep s**t, Flav gave it the swag. He was the fly dude, the fun guy. He was the one that made it illy. So when you see him today allowing himself to be used as he’s being used, and I’m sure he’s making his bread, I just wish that it didn't come down to this. But I’d be a real a**hole if I continued to speak negatively against someone that meant so much to me without understanding his plight. I’m learning not to have an expectation of people when they have already fulfilled something. Flav did his job for me already. Now it’s my turn to do my job and so I can’t be wanting and needing that expectation any longer. 

 

AllHipHop.com: What did you think about Nas campaigning to name his new album "N****r?"

 

NYOIL: I would like to say the same thing about Nas that I said about Flav, but I think in Nas’ case I feel a little differently. I think that from his interviews, there was a real tone of disingenuousness, if that’s a proper way of putting the vibe that I get from him. I don’t believe him and when I listen to the lyrics, I don’t hear the insightfulness and the introspection that I would expect to hear from Nas considering the stature that he has as in some people’s case. In some people’s book he’s the greatest MC, greatest lyricist, but I don’t hear it.

 

I don’t believe that he is going to adequately handle this issue. This is an issue, when you get to talking about certain things…for example, if I start talking thug s**t right, the expectation is that I better be prepared to live that thug s**t because when you talk that thug s**t and you go to different towns muthaf**ers  is gonna test your mettle. If I was talking that pimping hoe s**t, I better be prepared to do what a pimping hoe do. So if you’re trying to be this conscious dude, you gone speak on conscious issues not just lyrically but orally and be able to articulate your position. If you can’t articulate that position, you don’t got no business building on that s**t. Leave it alone, it ain’t for you.

 

AllHipHop.com: Do you think continuing to use n****a in music is taking us back?

 

NYOIL: I think the fact we continue to perpetuate the uses of that word is taking steps back as a race. I mean when do we stop looking at ourselves a n****s and coons and shines, spades, hambones and s**t like that and start seeing ourselves as freemen, International Black men and women or the father and mother of civilization? When will the Black man decide to be civilized and stop blaming the White man on the s**t that’s happening to us - when we’re perpetuating the greatest evils upon ourselves?

 

So when you name an album that type of thing, it’s bulls**t in the highest order. This dudes name is Nasir...that name has meaning in Islam. This dude could have named his album Black Man. He’s such a lyricist, he could have changed trends. You can’t diffuse no word by perpetuating its use. You diffuse a word by saying f**k that word. I reach out to you, I say what’s up brother, how you? Have you ever walked into a room where brothers don’t call each other n****s and call each other Black man… "What up brotha how you?" That s**t feel warm, it feels good. "Like you alright"… yeah I feel comfortable, I feel dignified.

 

This brother could have perpetuated that knowledge and raised the consciousness of the people. But that’s not what he brought to the table. He ain’t building no discussion. Some shorty listening to his s**t ain’t discussing this matter. The only thing he did was co-sign Eminem and cats like that to call us n****s. He just cosigned for White people to call us n***a. He had some chick to walk on the red carpet with a "N****r" shirt on. Him and his wife and not only did [they] have three other chicks wearing it he had a White girl, an Asian girl and I think like a Puerto Rican girl. They was around all these famous personalities wearing these "N****r" shirts you understand. This dude gave no clear bill, a bunch of mumble mouth s**t. It’s f**ked up, but it just shows you how major corporations can dress up an artist just to make him appear to be something that he really ain’t. He ain’t that dude to take on that issue… that’s why I don’t like talking about dude because I get pissed off because it’s just f**ked up man. It’s f**ked up that a dude like this could be in a position like this to be speaking on these matters and sound ill equipped to do it.

 

But they listen to this dude because somebody else told him that he’s one of the illest, so automatically they just d**k riding the dude. It’s the "Stan Fan"… Stanley and them that’s on his nuts hard, but you already know that this dude is on his way out. He doing these flashy things…it's timing. All these dudes like that... that perpetuate that wickedness, they falling out of favor. The fact that a dude like me is coming out with a song “Y’all Should All Get Lynched” talking about these type of mutherf**kers and people loving the song and this s**t rocked for two years now, and I ain’t doing nothing but elevating [and] showing they time is up.      

    



Comments

 

meat dunn said:

im gonna tell you my problem with the NIGGER.  Chuck D xclan and groups like that back in the day who were so-called conscious would be so sincere about the message they would get right to the people, not having time to shit on other black men, being that i aint listen to this guys music yet all i know about him is he hates other rappers and nas.  I would even venture to say hes Perpetuating lynchings in his song by saying other black men should all get lynched i mean is that much different from nas' nigger.  He said in another interview that he hasnt even heard any of the music and doesnt want to yet hes sooo upset, but i get it "Lynched" is his "conscious" version of how to rob, another 50, or how bout this, he trying to be to this era what dmx was to the shiny suit era and once this nigga cake up i bet hell calm all this fake shit down.  But like he should do with nas im gonna listen to his music cuz i agree with the message but it gets phony when he starts shittin on nas cuz hes scared nas' message will corner the market before him.  This is the blue cheese nigger lets not forget when nas was making classic albums for his people where were you?  THis nigga been in the game damn near 20 years and aint pop
July 8, 2008 7:36 AM
 

Young Caine said:

Actually homie you gotta understand where NYOIL is speakin from. See Nas is NYOIL, and vice versa. We as Black Men have subconsciously learned to hate ourselves(and love they wealth). NYOIL is simply venting on how the record label molded Nas' persona to be a "Conscious" rapper after they took all this niggas demos. Instead of signing NYOIL, the "BigWigs" would much rather take someone from their current roster and make/mold them into what they think will sell.

In my opinion, I think NY is sorta bitter about not being in the position that Nas is in. I could be wrong, but he is warranted to feel that way. AND, I really don't co-sign NY for speakin on other niggas anyway. No matter who the interview is for. A MAN don't talk shit about another man if the other man is not present. However what he said about Flav makes sense, but too many people tryna diss Flav just cause he gettin money now. Where da hell was they at when Flav was smokin Flave and kept gettin locked up??? Remember when Professor Griff said Flav was "Picking electronic cotton". Dat shit was funny as hell...
July 8, 2008 10:32 AM
 

TonyMalibu said:

Real talk.  NYOil has been my favorite emcee for about two years now...ever since the first Hood Treason dropped.  That CD is still in my disc changer today...peole talk about the Lynch song, but "Don't Get It Twisted" is the best song on there IMO.  Shit will never get old.

NYOil is saying the same thing I've been saying about Nas...and it pains me to talk about Nas too, because I once considered him the GOAT.  But how you gonna co-sign a white man (of all people) to call us a nigger?  I could never co-sign Nas again until he takes that shit back and even then I still would never look at him the same.  I can barely listen to a Nas track anymore.  That's how strongly I feel about his whole Nigger campaign.

And as for people saying that NYOil is vouching to lynch black men...that's plain retarded!  I could easily turn that around and say that these drug dealers, drug lords, dope boys, pimps, and so-called gangsta rappers are vouching to lynch black people as a whole.  They're just not using ropes, they're using drugs, guns, and negative stereotypes and images of our people.

I hope more people catch on to NYOil, and I wish him continued success.  We need more REAL black men and women on the radio.
July 8, 2008 3:34 PM
 

sillyme said:

I think nyoil makes valueble points, it dosent take anything away from rappers such as nas, but its kind of true how the industry will mold a mc direction.
July 8, 2008 5:32 PM
 

meat dunn said:

im not saying duke is advocating lynching black men im saying if he is gonna be critical of nas without listening to his full message than the same can be "Assumed" of him.  Nas has never been very good speaking in public i remember niggaz used to not believe his lyrics after hearing him speak but the whole point and his whole point was to LISTEN to the music which is where he does his talking.  The industry didnt make nas and this is no publicity stunt.  In his 1st rhyme he said he went to hell for snuffin Jesus and he says outrageous things throughout his career nothing has changed its just these niggaz got comfortable and NY OIl wants to put this same message out 1st and nas beat him to it.  Just like hes been an ill mc for the last 15 years or so while this nigga sat back and allowed everything else to happen again  i ask where has this blue cheese nigga been during the death row days when music was REALLY negative.  Fuck outta here
July 8, 2008 9:55 PM
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