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Kim Osorio: Straight Talk 
Published Monday, September 08, 2008 12:30 PM
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By Kathy Iandoli
It’s just your average evening at a Starbucks in New Jersey. Random teenagers are doing homework, old friends are catching up, and new couples are on first dates. Several months prior, Kim Osorio sat in that very same Starbucks penning her novel Straight from the Source – a partial tell-all about her time as the first female Editor-In-Chief of Hip-Hop’s original Bible. When Kim walks into Starbucks to sit and discuss the book she wrote there, she is comparable to a war soldier in that her emotions aren’t apparent until she discusses that period of her life.

See, Hip-Hop has its set of elements that are heralded as the foundation. But Hip-Hop journalists sit by the sidelines and report the elements as they happen. Kim Osorio was an original b-girl whose love affair with Hip-Hop brought her to the greatest position a Hip-Hop journalist could have at the time…along with a set of memories that she will ultimately never forget.

“This is a story that I’ve always wanted to tell,” Osorio explains about Straight from the Source. “There are people out there that have always tried to speak for me and always try to say what they want to say about what happened to me at The Source. So I wanted it to be documented by me in print, and I wanted to get it out there.”

The novel details Osorio’s five years at the publication, starting with her hiring as Associate Editor in 2000 and leading up to her firing as Editor-In-Chief in 2005. While the book reads like a story, it’s far from fiction, as it’s a very honest tale of Osorio’s time at the since beleaguered magazine – for better or worse. The novel goes into great length about The Source’s overlords at the time – co-founder Dave Mays and rapper turned entrepreneur Raymond “Benzino” Scott, whose feud with Eminem both on and off wax spilled onto the pages of The Source much to the chagrin of its termination-fearing staff.

“For women it always comes down to the Scarlet Letter, sexual – oh my God, it doesn’t matter what year, what millennium we’re in; we are always looked at in that sort of light.”

“I just got to a point where I was like, ‘Okay they want another Eminem hate story, let’s do it,’” recalls Osorio. “I didn’t want to deal with the backlash of even saying anything positive about Eminem, because we all knew you would get fired [if you did].”




Prior to accepting her post as EIC, Kim Osorio was romantically linked to two MCs in particular – Nas and 50 Cent. While many women who have “dated” rappers pen exposés on their time in bed, Osorio had to include her intimacies as they became reference points for both her mistreatment at The Source and later dishonorable mentions in a few rap tracks. In any industry as highly inbred as music, there’s bound to be love connections. However, the world applauds when Jay-Z and Beyonce canoodle, and eventually wed, but are appalled at the co-mingling of industry people (particularly women) with artists. No one crucified Tommy Mottola for finding his way toward Mariah Carey. However, Osorio’s history with artists was magnified and exaggerated.

http://allhiphop.com/photos/blog_pictures/images/20482374/250x375.aspx“The double standard is evident – not just in Hip-Hop – but in Hip-Hop it sure is magnified,” Osorio says. “I don’t think that I did anything wrong by dating people or being involved in relationships with people. For women it always comes down to the Scarlet Letter, sexual – oh my God, it doesn’t matter what year, what millennium we’re in; we are always looked at in that sort of light.”

She comments on Hip-Hop’s unconditional adoration of the MC. “I love the way they hold rappers on a whole different level. Are you saying that no one is allowed to date anyone in the industry? Or are you saying writers aren’t allowed to date rappers? Or are you saying writers aren’t allowed to date anyone in the industry? What is it that you’re saying?”

Osorio gives an eye roll and a shrug when she remembers the backlash at her job for her dealings with 50 Cent and Nas, but it’s obvious that it’s still a painful memory. Her novel highlights lewd comments from Benzino in addition to his countless racial slurs and misogynistic remarks to various members of The Source's staff. Before even taking the publication to court for sexual discrimination (and settling for $7.5 million) Osorio, a Law School graduate, knew something was up.

“There were things going down at The Source that were triggers like, ‘Wait a minute, that isn’t right. You can’t say that to me.’ And regardless if we were working in Hip-Hop or there were songs or we even liked songs that used the word b***h – whatever the case may be, you can’t use that to justify mistreatment of people in the workplace. Two totally separate things, and people don’t know how to make that distinction.”

“[50 Cent] should stick to beefing with rappers... Leave little ol’ me alone.”

Osorio marks her taking the position as Editor-In-Chief when everything truly erupted.

“It really came to a head when I was in the position of power. Before there were definitely glimpses of things that I knew were wrong, but when you were on the other side – when you were not making the decisions and stuff – you were part of the editorial staff,” she says. “I don’t think there were too many times when the editorial staff itself treated women badly. The treatment I had been dealing with in the book was coming from the two individuals that were in control [Benzino and Mays] that I reported to.”

To date, Straight from the Source is receiving excellent feedback from men and women alike. While Nas has yet to comment on his mention in the novel, 50 Cent has made disparaging remarks not only directed at Osorio, but all female journalists. “[50 Cent] should stick to beefing with rappers,” Osorio jokes. “Leave little ol’ me alone.” His inclusion of all female writers brings to light the ever-growing disrespect of women in Hip-Hop.

“I think that unfortunately Hip-Hop has definitely mistreated women more as of lately,” Kim explains. “I saw so many different representations of women in the earlier years of Hip-Hop. Nowadays, you don’t see as much when it comes to women. You are really just given this image of a woman – of a video vixen – and that’s all you see. That one type of woman in Hip-Hop.”

She continues, “That’s not to say that there aren’t other women behind the scenes – executives that are making it happen, writers, editors, artists – there’s a lot of that. For some reason they’re not making their way to the forefront. I think that’s a problem.”

Osorio’s story is far from gender specific, as the isms she faced at The Source went above and beyond being a female. Her story is special given the circumstance and her importance in Hip-Hop history. The one question that looms overhead is why did it take a termination for Osorio to leave The Source?

After a long pause, Kim responds, “I loved my job, despite everything that was happening there. I wanted to do a good job and make a name for myself. As things worsened, I had to weigh the options of having a child to take care of, bills to pay, and whether or not it was a good decision to leave. Being within Hip-Hop, that magazine, that was the top. That was where most journalists aspired to be.”

“No one is above the law. You can’t treat people that way. Just because it’s Hip-Hop does not make it okay.”

As the noise in Starbucks grows louder, Kim gets quieter once the discussion on the end of the story grows near. She points outside in the direction of a Borders, where she had her fateful meeting with an attorney regarding her problems at The Source. Even now when she references that secret meeting spot, she has a moment of apprehension – forgetting that it’s all over. Consequently, Kim Osorio filed a complaint with Human Resources against The Source big bosses, citing her grievances. When she refused to retract her complaint, she was fired.

“My getting fired was a wake-up call,” Osorio states, and what followed was a heinous trial with Benzino and Dave Mays (who were later “relieved” of their duties at the magazine as well). Truth be told, Benzino made an example out of himself in the courtroom, with subtle insulting gestures, threats, and being thrown out of court on some occasions. As previously stated, Osorio’s sexual discrimination case was settled to the tune of $7.5 million. In speaking with Kim, though, it’s apparent that it really wasn’t about the money. “No one is above the law. You can’t treat people that way. Just because it’s Hip-Hop does not make it okay.”

Osorio hasn’t picked up a copy of The Source since she left. Maybe it has something to do with the memories attached, but above all she seems disinterested. For someone who donated countless hours of her life to reporting on Hip-Hop, it seems that the game has desensitized her. Engaged and a mother of two, at this point in her life she has bigger fish to fry. While currently the Vice President of Content for the Hip-Hop aggregator Global Grind, Osorio has finally found a way to balance her personal life with her career.

While Straight from the Source may be one of many books to expect from Kim Osorio, this novel marks her inevitable separation from one relationship with Hip-Hop, battle wounds included. “My decision to write this book was something that I knew I needed to do to grow out of what I did. Obviously my story took a turn and it became something different, but there was always that story…Hip-Hop from a woman’s point of view.”
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Comments

 

Mightydog said:

1st?
September 8, 2008 12:33 PM
 

youngface said:

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September 8, 2008 12:34 PM
 

Mightydog said:

I already got my book on order from amazon.com along with Pepa, Chyna, & Faith. Oh yeah I had to get that supersaver multi-order discount.  I know SOHH has been highlighting her for the past couple of weeks & bloggers can be sooo coollddd, but she got my $$ cuz I wanna hear from the sources(horses) mouth of went down.
September 8, 2008 12:37 PM
 

jay8338 said:

Have some respect about yourself and keep your mouth and legs closed and that whouldn't happen. Blaming a rapper for telling that you are a slut well that's to bad you should know who you are blowing. Why did you mess with them in the first place? Stop writing books about the people that you slept withj and trying to get paid about it. You are nobody trying to be a somebody who cares about you. Why write a book?
September 8, 2008 12:41 PM
 

NightFall914 said:

Shes put in work with what USED to be a great publication.As for all teh "tell all" stuff, I believe what 2 adults do personally/sexually is there on business. No one moves in silence anymore.Its just 1 big race to see who can reveal the most personal info the fastest.
September 8, 2008 12:49 PM
 

Bill_Blass74! said:

Sounds like a whore to me. She took all that treatment and didn't say nothing? Then she sues and got PAID!! Now she has a tell all book so niggas can feel for her,please. Who cares what you did,you opened them legs and got what you wanted;money,15min of fame,etc. Don't expect love from me shawty. The sad thing is that you were probably a respected journalist,instead you sound like a bitter employee.
September 8, 2008 1:10 PM
 

T-ROC said:

Did we really KNOW who she is??? i mean come on we just read THE SOURCE front page and kept it moving.

(ya'll know am right)
September 8, 2008 1:12 PM
 

TypeKast said:

Wow @ some of these ignorant ass comments. Whore? Slut? Really? And T-Roc how old are you, because EVERYONE read the Source cover to cover in its hayday. Good piece, dumbass responses.


September 8, 2008 1:29 PM
 

JohnnyACE562 said:

These sorry ass Superhead-type hoes ain't gonna last. The reason Kim Osorio put out this book is because she spent up all the settlement money (which she didn't deserve in the first place) too quickly. Ain't no one feelin sorry for her triflin ass...she can go somewhere with all that nonsense.

And I don't think she only messed with those two niggaz either. I highly suspect that Mr. Benzino was in the situation also (and I'm probably right).

With that said...
STOP SUPPORTING BULLSH*T

{{-_-}}
September 8, 2008 1:37 PM
 

tippydickumdown said:


T-ROC said:
Did we really KNOW who she is??? i mean come on we just read THE SOURCE front page and kept it moving.

(ya'll know am right)
September 8, 2008 1:12 PM

another ignorant ass comment from an ignorant mufucka..and the hits keep on coming..hahaha..but I can't fault you or a few others who have made disparaging comments about her,you obviously don't know anything/anyone in the music industry,beyond the favorite rapper of the month & maybe his producer.the fact that the source treated her & other females so negatively was a direct reflection of 'the ownership"-specifically benzino & dave mays.I had been up in the sources offices several times & not just the lobby,met several people that are still going strong today,that were employed there..I went to the sources 100th issue party.based on these things,I believe what she says happened.as for her having sex with rappers,it's a double standard.yes she's attractive but how is it the dude gets props for "bagging" the female,yet the female gets called a "whore","slut" or whatever? pathetic.bottom line-what if that was your mother? or maybe your sister that that happened to? how would you feel?! I bet your bitchasses would change your tune then huh? personally,I would be ready to move heaven & earth if I could for my fam..but it's more than that.it's about RESPECT.I know a couple of you will point to my screen name & pic & ignorantly conclude I am disrespecting women..on the contrary: I like to fuck.I use a rubber.I like females.but I don't let those things prevent me from respecting women as such.
September 8, 2008 1:41 PM
 

tippydickumdown said:


T-ROC said:
Did we really KNOW who she is??? i mean come on we just read THE SOURCE front page and kept it moving.

(ya'll know am right)
September 8, 2008 1:12 PM

another ignorant ass comment from an ignorant mufucka..and the hits keep on coming..hahaha..but I can't fault you or a few others who have made disparaging comments about her,you obviously don't know anything/anyone in the music industry,beyond the favorite rapper of the month & maybe his producer.the fact that the source treated her & other females so negatively was a direct reflection of 'the ownership"-specifically benzino & dave mays.I had been up in the sources offices several times & not just the lobby,met several people that are still going strong today,that were employed there..I went to the sources 100th issue party.based on these things,I believe what she says happened.as for her having sex with rappers,it's a double standard.yes she's attractive but how is it the dude gets props for "bagging" the female,yet the female gets called a "whore","slut" or whatever? pathetic.bottom line-what if that was your mother? or maybe your sister that that happened to? how would you feel?! I bet your bitchasses would change your tune then huh? personally,I would be ready to move heaven & earth if I could for my fam..but it's more than that.it's about RESPECT.I know a couple of you will point to my screen name & pic & ignorantly conclude I am disrespecting women..on the contrary: I like to fuck.I use a rubber.I like females.but I don't let those things prevent me from respecting women as such.
September 8, 2008 1:41 PM
 

dovely said:

Great article! It's sad that there is such a double standard of dating within the industry - the Tommy/Mariah example is a good one (and wasn't his other wife a singer too?)

My theory is that men hate on women dating artists because they can't do it themselves. So many dudes dickride (no pun intended) their favorite rappers so much that I think they are secretly jealous that they can't get closer to them. They tell women "keep your legs closed" but would probably bend over themselves in a heartbeat if they could.

Calling a woman a slut for dating one or even two artists is the easy way out. Let's not talk about all the artists and industry guys who are out getting new girls every other night (even when they are married or committed)...

Alas, the double standard will always be.
September 8, 2008 1:42 PM
 

tippydickumdown said:


T-ROC said:
Did we really KNOW who she is??? i mean come on we just read THE SOURCE front page and kept it moving.

(ya'll know am right)
September 8, 2008 1:12 PM

another ignorant ass comment from an ignorant mufucka..and the hits keep on coming..hahaha..but I can't fault you or a few others who have made disparaging comments about her,you obviously don't know anything/anyone in the music industry,beyond the favorite rapper of the month & maybe his producer.the fact that the source treated her & other females so negatively was a direct reflection of 'the ownership"-specifically benzino & dave mays.I had been up in the sources offices several times & not just the lobby,met several people that are still going strong today,that were employed there..I went to the sources 100th issue party.based on these things,I believe what she says happened.as for her having sex with rappers,it's a double standard.yes she's attractive but how is it the dude gets props for "bagging" the female,yet the female gets called a "whore","slut" or whatever? pathetic.bottom line-what if that was your mother? or maybe your sister that that happened to? how would you feel?! I bet your bitchasses would change your tune then huh? personally,I would be ready to move heaven & earth if I could for my fam..but it's more than that.it's about RESPECT.I know a couple of you will point to my screen name & pic & ignorantly conclude I am disrespecting women..on the contrary: I like to fuck.I use a rubber.I like females.but I don't let those things prevent me from respecting women as such.
September 8, 2008 1:42 PM
 

aqua06 said:

By some of these responses some of y'all really need to visit mom dukes, your sister or your aunt and give the woman a hug.
September 8, 2008 1:43 PM
 

NightFall914 said:

I perosnally do believe their are details that could have been left out.Shit I know who a few "rap celebs" are/were fucCin' but it aint gonna get out from my lips cuz its really irrelevant to whats going on.
September 8, 2008 1:44 PM
 

Bill_Blass74! said:

Um,not really. SOURCE was played out in the 90's,just like VIBE. They fucked up when they were showing love to THE SOURCE'S favorite musicians. If you don't believe me take out your 'DA REAL WORLD' by MISSY. #15 SHE SNAPPED ON THE SOURCE! They were givin' out 5 mics like free rubbers at a swinger's club.
September 8, 2008 1:48 PM
 

KatEye said:

Tippy and Aqua, you were right on the money.

Dove, lmao, do you remember the crowd surrounding LL last year at the fashion show...full of dudes? One girl rolls up and dudes were like "groupie." LMAO ay dios mio.
September 8, 2008 1:57 PM
 

Sketch Po said:

Im with you Nightfall. There are details that she probably could have left out. However, the book isn't about her sexual relationships. It's about her treatment at The Source. Everybody knows when Benzino's wack ass was beefing with Em, The Source took the bias route. The Source gets no run in my crib! Benzino never did. I applaud mama for getting her money and exposing these mysoginistic folks in the industry. Gotta respect these women (not including Superhead).
September 8, 2008 2:03 PM
 

The Heir Apparent said:

fuck the bullshit, whats the name of the beat? and not for nothin, if i rapped then, i would've took to the hole on her too...not to say she's a hoe or nothin, cuz thats not my business but she IS a cutie...and once again, whats that beat?
September 8, 2008 2:12 PM
 

NightFall914 said:

Its not what you say as much as its HOW you do it.
Hell I dont buy any mags anymore. XXL lost me with how they dicC ride Wayne now too.I'll get the articles online.
September 8, 2008 2:38 PM
 

n.e.n.o.s. said:

wonder why they call you bitch.
September 8, 2008 2:55 PM
 

TOHN007 said:

Benzino and Dave Mays were some fucking clowns! I stopped fucking with The Source when every issue had something negative to say about Eminem. Then XXL got played out because Elliot Wilson got too arogant and dick rode 50 Cent and Interscope records till the wheels fell off. Now I dont fuck with no Hip Hop publications anymore. Shit is just sad. Some of yall are ignorant for calling Kim a slut or a whore because she slept with 2 rappers. It's not like she is Superhead or something.
September 8, 2008 3:04 PM
 

SEVERE SWAGGA said:

IM AH CHECK DA BOOK OUT.....BUT REAL TALK I AINT PICK UP NO MAGAZINE IN A VERY LONG TYME..THE SOURCE WAS DA SHIT WAY BAC 2 BADD BENZINO FUCKED IT UP..
September 8, 2008 3:15 PM
 

JSG said:

Dayum... Cats are very sensitive... Why are cats mad at Kim?  I have not yet read her book - but reading it is not necessary to see what is at issue here.  Just like an MC - Kim's a communicator.  Osorio can say what she wants - JUST LIKE AN MC or any other human being with an ounce of confidence... Cats don't get mad when male MCs clown females who they treat like human finish lines.  What's everybody so mad at Kim for?  Cats act like they don't have mommas, grandmommas, sisters, nieces... nada.  Coming from the era of Sha-Rock, Lisa Lee, MC Lyte, The Real Roxanne, Shante and Sequence has always given me insight into our women's right to communicate freely in the culture of Hip-Hop...  Fools have short memories, mayn.  Females have obstacles unique to them... Say what you want KIM... and positive or negative - OWN IT!


What up Ms. DOVE!  Tac-Town!!!

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September 8, 2008 3:17 PM
 

emccoy1972 said:

Greetings,
Her words make you forget the mic ratings; look at the lyricism, turntablism and quotable teamups.  Keep the Creativity Mega.  

Respect,

JAW
September 8, 2008 3:18 PM
 

Hip Hop GM said:

Books shed light on things from different points of views. The problem is until the other person speaks on what is written about them, people will hold it as the truth and that may not be what it is. Good luck.
September 8, 2008 3:26 PM
 

BLUNTBLAZER said:

SHE LOOKS COO ID BANG
BUT WHY WRITE A BOOK TELLIN HOW MUCH OFA SLUT U WAS
SHE GOT PAID SHE SHOULD JUS FADE

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September 8, 2008 3:27 PM
 

JohnnyACE562 said:

Anyone who defends this slut needs help.

{{-_-}}
September 8, 2008 3:47 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

Who?
September 8, 2008 3:48 PM
 

JohnnyACE562 said:

If you think she only slept with those two rappers then you're lost indeed.

{{-_-}}
September 8, 2008 3:49 PM
 

EY3M@~J33NYUS! said:

she slept w/ me too. it was good
September 8, 2008 4:13 PM
 

Theyztenz said:

T-ROC said:
Did we really KNOW who she is??? i mean come on we just read THE SOURCE front page and kept it moving.

(ya'll know am right)

I like most other people read The Source in its entirety, not just look at the pics like your ass.  
September 8, 2008 4:19 PM
 

Nex Gin said:

@TOHN007
@JSG
-----------------------------------

c/s both.  Some of these niggaz mommas and baby mamas done fucked more dudes than these women who they're callin' sluts.  gtfoh w/ that mysogenistic, little boy bullshit.  Like a couple other people said...what if that was your mother or grandmother somebody was talkin' about.  smh @ these teenagers.
September 8, 2008 4:33 PM
 

MDubHolla said:

Yeeeeeeeeeeah I smashed already and i'm not in hip hop :-)
September 8, 2008 4:35 PM
 

ryda1000RR said:

I co-sign TOHN007...both hip hop "bibles" fell off & are full of more bullshit CD reviews, ass kissing interviews and countless ads for bullshit alcohol brands by any overnight rapper, sneakers not even a clown would wear, t-shirts and jackets the avg working fan can't afford and my personal favorite....the back of the mag booty pages of smut advertising lol
Someone needs to write a book called "The Legends of The Fall Offs...an insightful look at The Source & XXL".
Kim: do ya thing ma & F the haters. Ms O got a law degree...Superhead just got jawbone. Nuff said
September 8, 2008 4:49 PM
 

T-ROC said:

My mother always said "son, not everyone can read & this who can, may not be able to COMPREHEND."

What I mean by that? Well, The article is about the once Editor-in-Chief ( if am not mistaken her title) Kim O, whom usually wrote the front page article. You know letting you know what's in "this" months issue. SO, with that said "MOST" of us read the front page article WRITTEN by Kim O. So, when I made that statement for the Comprehensive-challenged; we read the front page written by her THEN we moved onto the rest of the magazine. ( oooooooo, I can hear you dummies now; well you should of said that (Fat Albert voice))

That's why it's called READING & COMPREHENDING!!!!

FYI, my dudes I read the source for YEARS and switched like most of you when they got WEAK!!!
September 8, 2008 5:20 PM
 

Mightydog said:

MDubHolla said:
Yeeeeeeeeeeah I smashed already and i'm not in hip hop :-)
------------------------------

I don't believe you, you need more ppl. Where did yall meet? How did you break up?
September 8, 2008 5:24 PM
 

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let her do what she wants, this is a free country!!!!!


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September 8, 2008 6:02 PM
 

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September 8, 2008 6:06 PM
 

Trill079 said:

Hey she got down. Thats what everybody only really cares about and only wanted to hear. Story closed!

Remember the trill always stay real! Holla!
September 8, 2008 6:22 PM
 

odeiseltheone said:

there is a difference between a journalist sleeping with their subjects and artists dating.

If you think that is the same thing you are in denial. It has nothing to do with a double standard.

You don't think that's a conflict of interest?
Are you the same people that thought benzino owning the source was a conflict?

i dont know her to call her out of her name, or to testify about who she is as a person. thats between her and god, but if women really want to be taken seriously and really talk about equity, then they should stop using the double standard themselves.  How many interviews came from those relationships?

There is nothing empowering about playing victim. if your sanctity is violated you send people to prison. Once you start writing a book about it,you're going somewhere else

so you're at least an editor. what about the female interns and the lower level women that worked there and didn't have ANY power.  I know a couple writers that they owed checks to that if they were big dudes they probably would have gotten paid.  

how can you sit in your office quiet about that while other people with less power than you are being abused and then come out trumpeting double standard?  Who looked out for those girls?  There's no book for them.
September 8, 2008 6:31 PM
 

JohnnyACE562 said:

Seriously, y'all be defendin dumb hoes too much. It's startin to get pathetic.

Get yourselves some game, fellas. I'm losin faith in y'all...

{{-_-}}
September 8, 2008 9:30 PM
 

Saym-one said:

@ odeisel: i totally agree with you.  lots of thoughts about kim and what she's doing, but i'll keep those to myself.
September 8, 2008 9:38 PM
 

tha clear said:

Fukk the sauce!! I still ain't re-couped the issues I PAID for back in the day when they stop sending issues to subscribers. They owe me at least 2 years worth of issues.
September 8, 2008 9:43 PM
 

JohnnyACE562 said:

I'm going to just say this once and for all and then I'm done here:

Mixing business with pleasure is never a good look PERIOD. If Kim Osorio was a magazine journalist then she should've been professional enough to get the interviews and material she needed from those rappers to publish in The Source without having to offer sexual favors in exchange. That right there just shows that she was never really cut out to be a journalist in the first place; just used her vagina to get ahead in the game the easy and sleazy way. So don't compare this to rappers having sex with groupies and/or calling them out in their songs because this is nothing remotely similar to that. Like it or not, women and men follow different standards when it comes to sex in general, not to mention situations like this. Kim having to publish this book about her sexual exploits is just an obvious signal to everyone that karma is finally biting her in the ass for her slutty ways. Now tell me, is that good business right there?

Let me break it down even further: When rappers call out hoes in their songs, they're only speaking about what sells. Rappers are supposed to rap about various things; that's their job, therefore, that's just part of business. Rappers having sexual intercourse with groupies (not too different from Kim Osorio) and then later rapping about it in song is just them maintaining their image, which is one of the main things that their consumers buy into. That's not mixing business with pleasure. Mixing business with pleasure would be if you were a rapper and your manager or one of the record execs at your label was a female and you started waxing her down, or if you signed a female artist to your own label and started pounding her in, now that would be mixing it. (examples: Jay-Z/Rihanna, Diddy/Cassie, Benzino/Kim Osorio; I'm not saying that they did, those are just examples). Kim Osorio is supposed to interview rappers and publish it in The Source; that's the business that she's in. When she's letting those rappers beat in order to get her interviews (let alone publishing a book about it later on), that's mixing business with pleasure. That's right there is what's called A CONFLICT OF INTERESTS, considering the industry that's in question here and the role each character plays in it. Therefore, she had no business filing a sexual harassment lawsuit against Benzino and Dave Mays (since they were merely reacting to the vibes that Kim was giving off), and she definitely has no business playing the victim in the situations that she wrote a book about. She brought it all onto herself. It's just sad that she ended up winning that lawsuit because she was clearly the weakest link at "The Hip-Hop Bible" and most likely one of the main reasons (if not THE main reason) that the magazine went bankrupt. And like I said before, she should already expect the labels that she's been given for not only doing what she did in the first place but also for putting it all out there like she did.

To put in all in terms you can understand:
A real G doesn't go feeling sorry for some silly hoe.
It takes 2 to tango but only 1 to say no.

That's why Kim O. gets no pass from me and I certainly hope no one buys her book.

{{-_-}}
i'm not a sexist
i'm a REALIST
September 8, 2008 9:49 PM
 

Hulk said:

dave mays and benzino's reign at that magazine were the WORSE years for that publication, i actually stopped reading that shit....but, i dunno what to think bout this book...maybe i just don't really give too much of a shit *lol* i only read this cuz i didn't have shit else to do....but why 50 gotta diss her AND other female journalists? maybe he has something to hide? didn't hear about Nas saying anything...
September 8, 2008 9:52 PM
 

Im_African said:

I dont know if anyone said this yet but it needs it needs to be said...
As a Editor in chief, staff writer or whatever she SHOULDNT have dated any rappers because of Ethics. I mean if you have any journalistic integrity you shouldnt date people you have to report on and cover for your work. Dont mix business and pleasure its basic...
For example if Bill O' was f*ckin Sarah Palin he shouldnt have her on for an interview and it would be seen as a problem ethically every time he covered her.
You shouldnt cover people that your intimate with. Just like Benzino as a rapper shouldnt have had so much control over the source cause every other page is a ad for Made Men or one of the other failed groups he was in.  Ethics yeah i took it there....
September 8, 2008 10:02 PM
 

JohnnyACE562 said:

@ Im_African

Finally someone's got some good sense!

ETHICS - something Diddy never goes by

{{-_-}}
September 8, 2008 10:09 PM
 

Twizza 77 said:

In my opinon, she never got involve romantically with rappers/subjects, thats a conflict of interest. Because that creates a bias towards others, when your job as journalist is to be subjective and try not to take sides.

Her credibility as Journalist is pretty much shot, not only your dating the people your writing about, but your enduring all this "sexual harassment" in office. If she really wanted to end the harassment and kept her dignity she should've quit and then file the lawsuit.
September 8, 2008 10:21 PM
 

ShawtyCake said:

  JohnnyACE562 said:
Seriously, y'all be defendin dumb hoes too much. It's startin to get pathetic.

Get yourselves some game, fellas. I'm losin faith in y'all...

{{-_-}}
------------------------------------------------------------
Amen
September 9, 2008 12:19 AM
 

tippydickumdown said:

JohnnyACE562 said:   a bunch of bullshit.granted,opinions are like assholes..and it's really about the angle one perceives the information from.as for me,I wasn't "feeling sorry for some silly hoe"..then again you said,"a real g.."spread YOUR credentials out so we can determine if YOU are even accredited enough to even be able to speak on how "real gz" move.whether or not you or anyone else wants to acknowledge me as a "real g" is irrelevant to me-I am however a real MAN,not a male.as a MAN,i stand as such.I walk it.I talk it.and it never waivers.having said that,dave mays & benzino created a conflict of interest.period.never mind that benzino's shit was weak,as a soloist,as the made men & was barely making it as the almighty rso..a MAN is going to separate business from personal activites & a MAN conducts himself,always,as such.for them to fire her for making that complaint merely meant to me,he was using "bully" tactics to maintain control of his staff.taking advantage of the fact he was a male in charge & she was a female subordinate..personally, a MAN could've handled that differently..her journalistic integrity isn't shot @ twizza 77.so you're saying since she had sex wih a couple of rappers,she can't accurately convey a story or a question & answer segment? mufucka plz.I could see if she was fucking 50 cent,then conducted the interview with him,wrote the mufucka,then edited it..but she didn't.besides,how can ANY of you lames say SHE was having a conflict of interest when the source operated as a conflict of interest for YEARS?! a MAN wouldn't have treated that situation as such,and therefor wouldn't have lost a court decesion..she could've fuck 100 rappers..but if she conducts herself correctly in the workplace,who am I as boss,to even mention it,much less,use that against her,or treat her less than..handle YO business,don't let yo business handle YOU.
September 9, 2008 12:34 AM
 

tippydickumdown said:


ShawtyCake said:
 JohnnyACE562 said:
Seriously, y'all be defendin dumb hoes too much. It's startin to get pathetic.

Get yourselves some game, fellas. I'm losin faith in y'all...

{{-_-}}
------------------------------------------------------------
Amen
September 9, 2008 12:19 AM

appropriately articulated..I should've just called him a gameless bastard,and left it @ that.hahahaha
September 9, 2008 12:36 AM
 

JohnnyACE562 said:

@ tippy...

First of all, um...the icon?? Really?? Come on now boss...don't be puttin all that private info out there; we don't need to know all that, bruh. Besides, ladies find all that talk about size to be a major turn-off. Remember, the ones who talk the loudest pack the least. A true Jedi Knight doesn't mention his lightsaber; he shows it when the time is right. Gotta leave something to the imagination right? Feel free to try that out; you might get more women.

Now down to business:

I'm not saying that Zino was right for what he did, but Kim O. basically proved to everyone that she was no better than him by creating an even further conflict of interest herself. Therefore she basically left herself no room to complain. Just because Benzino and Dave Mays did a shitty job doesn't excuse her actions.

{{-_-}}
may the force be with you
September 9, 2008 1:41 AM
 

HELLRAISER said:

damn grown ass people read hip hop magazines? i bet some of yall still got posters on your walls smh. why is it we call ourselves male and female hoes when monkies and lions fuck more than us? so does that make those animals whores? shit i wish i could have more sex than a pygmy monkey.
September 9, 2008 2:59 AM
 

elflaks said:

johnnyace562 gets no pussy!your a lame i read all your comments,why are you so bitter?you act like kim left you or something,its obvious from ur words that you dont deal good with a real woman,why are you so into her sex life,you seem as if women with power intimidate you,you have real issues.no matter what she did or didnt do,she is a woman  who creates life and she repected at all times.i love hiphop but the violence&misogyny worry about the message some people are interpreting,this is some fools interpratation of keeping it real,my brother please find it in you heart to take time to enlighten yourself to a diffrent view of how you view women,you sound like your sick!
September 9, 2008 3:59 AM
 

tippydickumdown said:

elflaks said:
johnnyace562 gets no pussy!your a lame i read all your comments,why are you so bitter?you act like kim left you or something,its obvious from ur words that you dont deal good with a real woman,why are you so into her sex life,you seem as if women with power intimidate you,you have real issues.no matter what she did or didnt do,she is a woman  who creates life and she repected at all times.i love hiphop but the violence&misogyny worry about the message some people are interpreting,this is some fools interpratation of keeping it real,my brother please find it in you heart to take time to enlighten yourself to a diffrent view of how you view women,you sound like your sick!
September 9, 2008 3:59 AM


he is sick.a gameless bastard.his ignorance prevents him from comprehending..and on the low,instead of addressing the comments I made,he really spent more time trying to attack my credibility,based on my icon pic? that's some republican shit if I ever..and dude went on & on..like he is envious,or lusting or both..yo johnnyace562,I don't swing yo way..I only consider intimacy with women..now if you got that cherry flavored lip gloss,weezy might have a gerbal for that anal cavity..I'm certain you will squirm in delight..
September 9, 2008 4:50 AM
 

tippydickumdown said:

and,since we are mudslinging now..johnnyace562,uh..you are 21.and from africa @ that..now I don't know about the rest of yall,but I have noticed,in my many moons on this planet,that alot of africans feel they are superior to & look down on black americans,all the while trying to appropriate the style,the swagger,we have cultivated..AND..alot of those african booty scratchers either have sugar in they tanks or have so many feminine tendencies,you'd think they were trapped in the closet ass mufuckaz..just sayin..
September 9, 2008 4:54 AM
 

Alaskan said:

Kind of a conflict to be fucking the people you're giving coverage to, but given all the other shit going on with the mag at the time it doesn't seem like much. Overall good for Kim for getting that once in a lifetime experience and coming out PAID!
September 9, 2008 5:36 AM
 

SNAPPA said:


@ TypeKast, tippydickumdown, Theyztenz

T-Roc sonned y'all.  




September 9, 2008 9:06 AM
 

DetroitsDaughter said:

It's appalling that there are so many comments calling Kim a slut or worse... I know her, and I love her. She is brilliant and she is not above telling rappers how it is. Which has earned her the title of bitch, but somebody needs to be honest with these fools who are surrounded by a bunch of yes-men.

I wonder why does the writer keep calling the book, "a novel" when it is a non-fiction book... That seems a bit strange.

As a female journalist and writer, I have dated rappers in the past some of them fairly well-known. When you work in the entertainment industry you tend to date within your circle. The average Joe, usually can't handle a woman who can get them into all the big shows, backstage, and getting hugs from millionaire, multi-platinum artists. It's natural for an attractive man and woman with similar interests to perhaps get to know each other. And for someone to say that they shouldn't date, is a double standard...and a stupid one at that.

I agree with Dovely... I think there is a lot of vagina envy going on.

Yeah... I said it.
September 9, 2008 10:26 AM
 

JohnnyACE562 said:

And that's why I'm done here, arguing with fools gets nowhere.

Not that it's any of your business but I get women. But that doesn't prevent me from calling out the dumb hoes.

{{-_-}}
dissing Africans = inbred racism
sad...
September 9, 2008 10:55 AM
 

SunKing20 said:

Whats poppin? These comments is funny as hell. I mean everybody entitled to there own opinion, which I don't think Kim gives a shit what people think. But in my opinion, I don't think Kim was out of line at any point. What, she can't fuck with no rappers cuz she's a jurnalist working for a magazine? And it not like she Superhead fuckin and suckin the whole industry and decided to get paid from it. Plus she's a grown ass woman and what she does in her personal time is her business. If it were a man that was fuckin a female rapper, nobody would say nothing. Anybody with common sense that read the source during the whole fuck Eminem campaign and listened to Bezino in interview could see he's an idiot and making everyone at the Source do what he says. Aftermath/Shady/G-unit was on top of the world at that time and you using your magazine to shit on the hottest artists out at the time. That shit turned me and a million other people off from the source. Plus I heard Benzino was extortin Dave Mays too. So you can't knock Kim's hustle for writing a book about the fuckery that was going on at the Source. Shit, get your money, boo. Benzino's a clown from what I observed I woulda sued they asses too.
September 9, 2008 1:31 PM
 

CinJin said:

GO KIM!!...lmao @ 'Vagina envy'...chea!
September 9, 2008 2:05 PM
 

madfaceinvasion said:

The last time I seriously read through  an issue of the source was in 1994. I think the front page had MC Eiht on the cover. I remember browsing through a hiphop magazine a few years ago. 85% of the magazine consisted of clothing ads, 10 % was dedicated to getting grills, chains, etc....Only 5% was actually used for relevant industry information. The title to most of publications can easily be changed to : "Americas Guide to Cooning"
September 9, 2008 2:26 PM
 

WhitneynStevie said:

She's far from Superhead to whomever that stated that. She actually has talent and had a real job. Sleeping with sexy guys was just a bonus shyt, if most females was in touch with themselves they would do the same. Who says that guys are the only one that can enjoy the single life? Rappers, actors, and anyone who is someone does the same thing. As long as shes being safe with it, isnt on any gold digging, and/or isnt selling people dreams then she's cool. Kudos to Kim
September 9, 2008 2:43 PM
 

openurfkneyes said:


"  HELLRAISER said:
damn grown ass people read hip hop magazines? i bet some of yall still got posters on your walls smh. why is it we call ourselves male and female hoes when monkies and lions fuck more than us? so does that make those animals whores? shit i wish i could have more sex than a pygmy monkey. "


coming to this site is the exact same thing as reading a magazine, you too dumb to realize that ?
September 9, 2008 3:03 PM
 

SunKing20 said:

Then again, I can see where jhonnyace532 and im_african are coming from. That shit is kinda a conflict of interest dating rappers you have to report on. I'm not defending that. But I don't think thats what the book is about. I'll have to read it or talk to somebody who read it before I pass judgment, but at the same time you can't blame her for bringing the magazine down. It was Benzino's willful ignorance obvious bias against a certain rapper or group of rappers that brought down the Source. You can't let personal feelings get in the way of good journalism. You'll always lose. Like I said, I think Benzino's a clown for that.  
September 9, 2008 3:54 PM
 

SunKing20 said:

And I think her getting fired made it easier for her to file a lawsuit.
And Dave and Benzino are such idiots they made it easier for her.
September 9, 2008 3:56 PM
 

rocafellareppin said:

As if that magazine didn't suck enough already.
September 9, 2008 4:40 PM
 

zoeflag said:

@ nightfall914 , i cosign dat shit



Alot of u niggas on here are catching feelings cuz niggas is callin this bitch a hoe , which she is , cuz at the end of the day if  she didn't like da way benzino wack ass was treating her she should of left (u.p.s is hiring), i heard all this shit b4 , Im not saying niggas in the industry is angels but cum on , yo for hoes in the industry( Im not refering to women in the industry) this shit is the new hustle , ya niggas buy the fuckin book if u want to ya just promoteing dat shit.......smh .....i just feel like if u dont wanna fuck a nigga u dont have 2 , and if u are a hoe be dat shit pride , dont fuck half da niggas dat rap and the run cry about dat shit .............SMH
September 9, 2008 6:01 PM
 

rocafellareppin said:

This bitch is ugly.... Why would ANY rapper touch that stank hood rat beaner?
September 9, 2008 6:55 PM
 

RevrendIke32 said:

88.7% OF YOU FKS ON HERE OUR IDIOTS. WAY TOO MANY TO PUT ON HERE PERSONALLY. DID YOU DUMBFICKS NOT READ THE PART WHERE IT SAYS "While many women who have “dated” rappers pen exposés on their time in bed, Osorio had to include her intimacies as they became reference points for both her mistreatment at The Source and later dishonorable mentions in a few rap tracks."

THAT MEANS THAT SINCE 50 AND EM WERE COOL SHE GOT MISTREATED FOR HOOKING UP WITH FIFTY. SHE WASN'T TRYING TO CALL THEM OUT. AHH IS JUST USING 50 AND NAS'S NAME TO GET YA'LL TO READ THE ARTICLE AND LOOK AT THESE STUPID ASS ADS. THE BOOK HAS ALMOST NOTHING TO DO WITH SEX. SEXUAL HARASSMENT BUT NOT SEX. OL EIGHT GRADE EDUCATION HAVING ASS NUKKAS.

I AIN'T NEVER LIKED THE SOURCE. NEVER GAVE THE SOUTH IT'S RESPECT SINCE DAY ONE. BENZINO WAS AN ASS AND HE COULD NEVER RAP PERIOD.
September 9, 2008 8:38 PM
 

TonyMalibu said:

Actually, I was riding with Benzino on the whole "Fuck Eminem" campaign.  Real talk...ya'll wanna know when Hip Hop died???  When those racist tapes of Eminem calling black people porch monkies, niggers, and bitches surfaced and NOBODY did a got damn thing.  No rapper went at him for that shit...Styles P got at him but kept it off wax...but other than him, nobody did or said a got damn thing.  6 years later we finally get a response; dumbass Nas raps "I ain't mad cause Eminem said the word nigger, cause he my nigger wigger cracker friend..."  S-T-U-P-I-D!!  All these fake ass faggot ass gangsta rappers really showed their bitchassness during this situation!  They'll smack each other up all day long...shoot each other up, sell poison to they own people and brag about it.  But when a skinny ass white boy crosses the line, they bitch the fuck up!  They also showed that they have NO LOVE for our black women...they let a white man disrespect them.

But at the same time...

During all that mess, I discovered that not only was Benzino just as racist as Eminem, he was a dumb fuck also.  Dude was OBSSESSED with Eminem!  LOL!  And Eminem just kept shittin on his ass...its no wonder Benzino is even remembered after all those diss tracks Eminem shot at him.   Dave Mayes should have dropped his dumb ass a long time ago.  

At any rate, I'll probably cop the book just to see what she's talking about.  As far as everybody calling her a ho...yup, she might very well be.  The fact that she STAYED on board even after the ALLEDGED harassment definitely makes me raise an eyebrow too.  But you still can't deny that Benzino is absolutely nuts, Dave Mayes is Benzino's "yes man" and probably scared to death of him, Nas is a dust addict who went upside his ex's head a few times, and 50 Cent is a coward.

I say that Kim O. was just a RAT in a nasty rat race.
September 9, 2008 8:53 PM
 

Supreme Mathematics said:

Whatever happened to integrity and honour. To my undersatnding all these "tell all" books which have come out since Karin Stephens made a mint, are actually demmeening women in hip hop more than ever.

Because what is worse than once powerfull and respected women who used to have downgraded their career to the level of breeching the trust of people they had relationships with and putting them in the spotlight in such a negative and callous manner.

It really just makes people believe the lie even more that the women in the industry are all "money grabbing whores" BUT WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE?

Im sorry, but for the editor of a magazine to sleep around with artsists aint a good look. Cause in the mind of the masses that means someone can get 4 page spread interview cause your lying down with the editor, while somebody else gets 4 paragraphs! It smacks of unprofessionalism and a abuse of postion. If a male editor was sleeping with feamle artists (which they probaly do) I wouldnt agree with that either, in fact they would probably be a legal charge in that for him somewhere. Some may see it as a benefit of the job but I have always looked at those P.R girls who sleep with every rapper they meet as kinda cheap and I aint feeling the male mangers who wanna give every female artsist under 40 the "casting couch" treatment as cheap either.

And I dont like snitches, make or female. So all these female "hip hop industry insiders" writing books about their exploits in book cause nothing is going in their career right now,  they look the cheapest. Speaking on the dead and all sorts and the dead can't defend their own reputations and say whether the story is a truth or lie. Calling out people who got families now and they causing problems cause they broke and they have not got the imagination or the work ethic to do something more constructive or postive than go around wrting scandulous soap style trash to make money...quik!!! If male industry "insiders" start writing books coming out the wordwork talking about which of them slept with which R&B singer I wont defend that either, cause theres no honour in it so this is not sexsim, its realism.





September 9, 2008 10:46 PM
 

tippydickumdown said:

TonyMalibu said: some shit that wasn't even mentioned & I have to cosign.eminem got a pass..and benzino,who's half white thought he would win..
September 10, 2008 12:34 AM
 

Grumpy said:

Shorty ain't some dumb broad who just fucked her way to Editor; You gotta have skills to hold that position. Calling women 'out' is lame...Every chick ain't a ho.

The real ho is Benzino for fucking up the mag and it's place in HipHop. Add Dave too.
September 10, 2008 10:15 AM
 

Bionic313 said:

Last Source I read had Bone Thugs on the cover back in 1995...like ol boy said...the shit was just full of ads...it got real wack...and how a magazine,beef wit a rapper???

I aint mad at Kim and her book...but why females feel they always gotta write these tell all books..who the fuck cares if you dated 50, everybody dated 50.. hell..even I hit that!! LOL
September 10, 2008 11:35 AM
 

zoeflag said:

@ johnny ace.............finally sum1 speaks the truth, I cosign my nigga  
September 10, 2008 2:15 PM
 

zoeflag said:

@ TONYMALIBU - yo you know i thought me and my boys was the only niggas on the face of this earth who gave a fuck that em said nigga and the shit he said about blk women  , and about all these rappers who didn't say shit ,i believe there some video out where a couple of niggas (mack 10 ) did say they would fuck him up, but all the A-list rappers didnt say shit , damn house niggas smh but glad u brought dat shit up and cosign................
September 10, 2008 2:39 PM
 

VAgogetta said:

that's funny...around the same time she explained she left, about 2005, i stopped reading the Source b/c it started to turn into a battleground for a personal beef and that's not true journalism.

how magazines gonna have beef with each other? what kinda shit is that? radio stations was havin beef with each other in cities across america at the time too. real fuckin stupid.

it waters down the content. the magazine and the material suffered because of the beef.


so then i picked up XXL and Vibe and King simply b/c the journalism and the content was better. not all these personal beefs getting in the way of the craft.

the Source is dead. everytime i go into a store and see that shit on the shelf i just laugh. ican't bring myself to buy another copy.
September 10, 2008 3:32 PM
 

zoeflag said:

@ rocafellareppin -maybe she looks better after a couple of drinks or when the lights are off lol  
September 10, 2008 11:54 PM
 

richie sick said:

bitch should have taken her $7.5 meal tickets and rode off into the sunset.  now shes writing books and other stupid shit, trying to stay in the public eye like she a star or some shit.  addicted to that fame.  thats why i dont believe in her motives.  that addiction to fame is why she had all them industry dicks in her mouth.  
September 13, 2008 1:42 PM
 

Leon88 said:

DIDNT SHE FILE A SEXUAL HARRASMENT CASE AGAINST THE SOURCE?NO DISRESPECT BUT SHE'S A BIRD.WOMEN TAKE NOTE SHE IS NOT ONE YOU WANT TO  MIMICK.HAVING SEX WITH FAKE DRUG DEALING NO TALENT RAPPERS WILL GET YOU NO WHERE!
September 15, 2008 3:40 PM
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