Ethan Brown: Snitching On Snitches

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Gentle Jones — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:18:05 GMT

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h_town_playa — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:35:00 GMT

everybody is a snitch. the whole 'stop snitching' culture is full of it because half of them are snitches. you people need stop doing dirt, throw on a button up and some khakis, tuck it in with a belt, and go do some business and live the real american dream.

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illseed — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:52:17 GMT

he looks a lil like the guys will smith fought over the weekend in "i am legend" - i kid. seriously, i should read this b/c the last book ethan did was dope - queens reigns supreme.

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Boss Up — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 13:56:46 GMT

Hey illseed he does look like he was infected by that virus though

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YoungG757NGE — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:04:20 GMT

The only problem wit the whole snitchin shit nowadays is the actual definition of it. Snitching only applies to people in the streets that live the criminal life. The people in the neighborhood watch or the old ladys that call the cops cuz a nigga servin aint snitchin because they just citizens. The G-Code is for niggas doin dirt not no half ass penny pinchin petty ass crooks either. But with the Stop Snitchin movement it was no clear agenda thats y u had lil kids walkin around wit a Stop Snitchin shirt not even knowin what it meant and thats y the media was ablke to flip it into some witness intimidation shit when it was nothin of the sorts. It was a call for niggas to man up u wont snitchin when u had them grams and them toys now u facin a few calendars and u gone fold thats not how the game sposed to be played fuck mandatory sentencin when that judge hit that gavel u eat that shit and when u get out u can be comfortable instead of the snitches I mean witness protection program. Holla at ya nigga

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Hypnotice7 — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:12:23 GMT

No diss but.....cats like Ethan Brown make a few bucks over black criminal issues thru movies and books....good 1st book but, where are the black authors on these subjects? Somebody reccomend me one

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illseed — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:25:12 GMT

they kill or ostracize black authors that do this stuff. they arent gangsta enuff to treat a white writer the same way. they see it as some sort of betrayal or something.

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Gentle Jones — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 14:50:22 GMT

i don't think anyone besides ethan is writing books on this genreal subject. i read an older interview where he said that there should be lots of authors writing these types of books. as of now, it seems to be an under-serverd market.

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Gentle Jones — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:26:07 GMT

ethan just hit me on email and asked that i post this response to hypnotice7 for him

"i can't log into allhiphop for some reason and i was wondering if you could put something up in the comments section for me (i saw that you commented already):

"unfortunately, there are very few journalists--of any race--covering criminal justice issues. but there are a few excellent african-american academics who do write about criminal justice issues occasionally whose work you might want to check out.

1) glenn loury:

www.econ.brown.edu/fac/Glenn_Loury/louryhomepage/cvandbio/GL%20vita%20(latest).htm

2) john mcwhorter:

www.manhattan-institute.org/html/mcwhorter.htm

ultimately, we must demand that huge criminal justice issues like the sentencing guidelines and mass incarceration get much, much more attention from everybody."

3) ellis cose at newsweek:

www.newsweek.com/id/77820/page/1

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Streetweyez Sayles — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:50:45 GMT

@Illseed

What black author has been killed or ostracized over this stuff? Listen man most of the things that Ethan Brown writes about the real streets already know about. So if you're black and from the streets this stuff is not news. Of course a white boy is trying to capitalize off it but some of this information needs to be read by some of these kids running around here talking like they know when they don't know. I don't advocate that books be written about it because it's old news to me. The 5K1 issue is OLD. Where do you dudes live? The only people that don't know about that would have to be raised in an environment where nothing remotely criminal ever took place.

Supreme was locked up with OG cats from DC, we knew about the real deal with Supreme on the streets down here long before that book even came out. I knew Curtis Jackson was fronting from the beginning. The only cats in Rap that checked him was Ghostface and the Chef from the Wu, all these other rap dudes acting like they scared of that dry snitching ass nigga. I state it plainly that Curtis Jackson be fronting, I don't care about what the fanboys think. Ja-Rule wasn't no gangster either but Curtis was just another dude that tried his hand at drug dealing, served an undercover,got caught, copped out, got shot, started rapping. Wow is that formula original or what?

The problem is most of the kids that buy gangster rap music (suburban white kids between the ages of 14-25) do not know. So now the whole rap thing is fake and people judge these rap clowns solely by their record sales not their real background. How much of a kingpin do you all really think Jay-Z was on some real shit?

The same thing with RATpo (Alpo) being talked about in the IC back in the day regarding his "Kingpin status" or whatever. Dame was a bitch for even putting RATpo back out there like that. The whole thing with him and Wayne Perry (that is who RATpo snitched on, Wayne Perry, one of the coldest OG's to come out of DC), the whole nine yards, every real street dude in DC knew that Alpo was a punk. Half the dudes that came down here from Harlem was paying for protection.

The Jamaicans that came down from NY in the late 80s got ran out of Southeast. Panama and them dudes were the only cats from New York that even stayed in SE up on MLK and he built his crew with mainly SE DC cats because the dudes he brought with him were folding like envelopes. Go check the facts. Now we're supposed to think these youngins would have survived the late 80s and 90s. Fuck nah, they snitching now more than ever and the gun play and level of violence is not even like it was back then. Real dudes worked hard to get away from that shit. But on the Internet, everybody wants to play tough guy. We're supposed to be shivering when one of these cats type in all caps about how hood they are.

Only people that do not have any affiliations with the streets have to rely on these books being written, and the way people talk on these boards on the Internet about things they know nothing about should make some of this reading "mandatory" regardless of who is writing it. Maybe the content of the messages will be more level headed and cogent. Maybe they will start writing in English again instead of writing jibberish trying to sound "hood". Most of your favorite rappers are probably a better actor than Denzel but this is turning into All Fanboyz.com instead of AllHipHop.com. We have to bring back real Rap, real Hip Hop because all of these fools running around talking about it doesn't matter are a part of the reason why falsehoods are more prevalent than any truth in the art these days.

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MACCAPONE — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 18:23:22 GMT

FUCC SNITCHES THEY GET POP IN THE HOOD....

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Young Caine — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:57:18 GMT

@ Streetweyez Sayles

Keep droppin dem gems on em...

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Da Realeast nigga Out — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:03:34 GMT

@ Streetweyez Sayles
Let Deez Young Buckz Have it/Half Of em Need 2 Be G Schooled Niggaz Be Killin Me talkin Dat Dumb Shit!

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ipoppedoff — Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:38:26 GMT

Good work Ethan,

I loved the Queens book. I will definitely check this out as well. Would love to hear what you have to say about the recent controversy stemming from that new documentary on Tupac (Tupac Assissanation).

Thank you and good luck with this effort.

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LoganRage — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 03:24:38 GMT

Co-signature to the man Streetweyez

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Jaurenlo — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:46:45 GMT

That Queens Reigns Supremem was a good read.

I will probaly get around to this after I finish up Check the Technique.

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aaxnapalm1 — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 15:02:05 GMT

@ Streetweyez and others

My dude you can't just assume that just because you and your circle know about these issues that the rest of the world knows about it too. And why does it have to be about the race of the author? That shouldn't matter because at the end of the day it's information being put out there for consumption. And as long as the information isn't fallacious I don't see the harm in publishing it. I mean sure Black people think that we "own" hip-hop but the reality is that we don't own shit. i had to learn this the hard way in a hip-hop journalism class i took. I was writing real hard on that "this is our culture" type shit. My professor shut that down real fast and put me on to mad books about hip-hop culture that proved that hip-hop isn't own by a particular race/ethnicity. It's a state of mind.

The 2nd to the penultimate paragraph of your comment was irrelevant to your point. They were just superfluous "gems" of how much street knowledge you have. Basically you were just trying to show off. Now in regard to your last paragraph I must say that the older I get the more disgusted I get with hip-hop's love affair with the streets. I just don't understand that shit. I grew up in a terrible neighborhood in southwest Atlanta, I saw that shit destroyed by crack. I don't go around with a bumper sticker on my car celebrating that shit. It's not anything to be celebrated. There isn't shit "good" about the streets. People are aligning black culture with street culture and that's not fair. I dare anybody to tell me that the days when you were just kicking it with your loved ones having some nice wholesome fun wasn't better than that time when you had to watch your loved one get dragged off in a police car.

Now I agree that these internet thugs should be versed in history and proper grammar. But what I don't understand is why we can't just let rap be entertainment? Why do we need to question rappers authenticity? Why can't they just be telling a story using creative language and images. Nobody sweats that Harry Potter chick about how "real" her stories are.

the idea of "realness" is probably the worst thing that's happened to the Black community and hip-hop for that matter

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JayAllah — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 16:33:03 GMT

@ aaxnapalm1

u beat me to the reply, but i agree with you..

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Grumpy — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 18:53:48 GMT

@Streetweyez Sayles

Yup, Wayne was a one man 'Murder Inc.'. An old Post article had him linked to 30 bodies...Dude had the D/M/V shook for years

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NightFall914 — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 19:37:57 GMT

A lot of truth in here.In my opinion there needs to be a serious distinction between Basic everyday life and "The Streets" because while most blacC folk do endure a struggle in one form or another you cant say all blacC living must have street dealings in it.

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dscott219 — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 20:09:28 GMT

A couple grand$$$$$ in my hood stops all that snitching shit Fa real east Chi indy fa real

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Bird — Tue, 18 Dec 2007 21:59:48 GMT

I'm not sure what Ethan's point is. Furthermore, I read Queens Reigns Supreme and feel it was poorly written and hard to follow as it was all over the place trying to connect the dots. I'ma give you a real gem on snitching; stop committing crimes and hanging around criminals and you won't have to worry about run ins with the law 9 times out of 10. If you are committing crimes or hanging with criminals then snitching comes with the territory.

And don't worry about these fake internet thugs. They are likely teenagers who are decent kids fantasizing about a life they will never experience.

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