Baby Bam of Jungle Brothers Speaks On New Movement

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Tommy K. — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:26:10 GMT

I don't care what you say... There is no excuse for that...

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K.A.K. DEUCE — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:30:00 GMT

1st!

He speaks sum truths but it sounds like he's a brainwashed turnout.

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etimeloD — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:30:12 GMT

Although I do believe the state of "mainstream" hip-hop has deteriorated, Bam has lost his effin' mind.

I peeped out the mySpace page for the Pagan Society, and these dudes are on some "X poppin', wild style orgy gang bang, Blade the movie goth dance scene shit".

Whether or not his "movement" gains steam, remains unseen, but I can't knock a n***a for his hustle......

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illseed — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:30:40 GMT

tell em how ya feel bam!

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Tommy K. — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:35:30 GMT

He has a point though.

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MaryJanesHusband — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:36:02 GMT

A K. West dickburger?....no thanx.

I will take a Beyonce Tittie Taco though....2 please

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Reg joe smoe — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:39:05 GMT

Yeah this aint hip hop.This kinda makes me feel uncomfortable.

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ALLDAY914 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:39:55 GMT

well it was well written
sounds like its straight off of some sci fi movie where the villain attempts to explain the actions of his cult
BUT HE NEVER EXPLAINED WHY HE DRESSES LIKE RU-PAUL
his movement couldn't be around without the homo esq aspect ?

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NEGRE--MARON — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:41:34 GMT

WTF!!!!!
These brothers need to lay off that shyt they on. classic case of bad timing. i'll stick to 40 below troopers.

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illseed — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:42:05 GMT

lol @ tittie taco - hahahahahahaha

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PreciseChi — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:45:53 GMT

Wow....The Jungle Brothers are the Natives Tounges...this is one of the main reasons I rhyme now...I understand his motivation...but I am not so sure about the terms pagan and demon. Sounds like devilishment. Looks like it to....WOW..."Straight Out the J.U.N.G.L.E

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MARCHITECT — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:51:07 GMT

He was right on point with his essay until he dressed up like jermaine stewart.
Hows hip hop dead when IM here.

make a good album sucker... you fell off first in the native tongues.
You went from that to a pagan movement? Thats why we still rock the De La and the Black sheep. I HOPE KRS ONE SMACKS YOU BACK INTO THE MENS DRESSING ROOM, YOU BUMP YOUR HEAD, AND MAKE A NEW JUNGLE BROTHERS ALBUM. peace

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Ms. A1sinceday1 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:53:23 GMT

Magilla Gorilla??? thats funny...poor Cee-lo..

I have respect for him but the whole "Pagan" thing...umm is just weird for me...
Anyway..

First Lady...

Ms. A1sinceday1 AKA Ms. CEO

G.I.T.D Records LLC

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everybodyisasnitch — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 17:55:40 GMT

Damn, this dude lost his ever loving mind. www.myspace.com/pagansociety1..check the page please......I'm not buying into that Bullish no matter how bad hip hop is. I'll stick to the underground artist like Jean Grae, Pumpkinhead, Red Dragon, and so on...Because artist with great hip hop music are still alive, you just have to dig for it> Buckshot, 9th wonder, Little brother, Sean Price, and many more.

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Asher "Black Bomb" Sommer — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:28:33 GMT

The text sounds like a Jehovahs witness or other religious sect member wrote it. He should just say I'm gay and I'm happy and case closed.

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BlackPeople 1 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:30:17 GMT

man so just tell me you ain't gay, cuz.

i'm wit all the other shit.
but just tell us why you got mascara on.

that's for girls, man.

are you gay?

dayum.

-Black People

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zacreole1976 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:46:17 GMT

Where's the ineterview? Thats just the info from his myspace. If I correctly recall I posted the link to this very statement to the comments section on your rumors section a week or so ago, when your healine read "A Gay Jungle Brother?!?!". I also hit up the following days' page with some info on his pagan thing too. While you are at it maybe you can skip back to the comments section & check out the info another one of your readers left regarding the origin of the pics.

(Dudes girlfriend with terminal cancer decided to make him up at a party full of pretty attractive women-not a bunch of queer dudes-ala Kelso @ the slumber party w the girls on That 70's show-he put the pics up on his myspace supposedly as a tribute to her & also to prove he doesn't give a fuck what people say or think)

I'm not sayin' anything about anything. I was a big fan of the Natives & the JB'z & I was hoping to find an interview where he would get a chance to clear things up-not an old rehash of info I already knew-& put many here on ahh up on to with a few simple mouseclicks-without trying to defame anyone or speak ill (no pun) of before gathering more info.

I don't know about this pagan shit, nor the photo's. To each there own I guess. If dude IS GAY I know I won't spend a lot of time dwelling on it. Shit, I live in Seattle. I'm around gays daily. They are real people just like anybody else. Same goes for freaks & weirdos too. Whatever. I don't have to sleep with them nor am I interested in what they do in their private lives. Shit, I don't want to know what most straight people do let alone some old Adam & Steve ish.

Oh well. Props I guess for letting folks know what dude is up to-even if it is some old next shit.

Illseed-you are true school-for that & your candor & usually unbiased & levelheaded perspective I respect you & appreciate what you do. Keep the real hip-hop info coming.

Peace

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zacreole1976 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:58:20 GMT

Where's the interview? Thats just the info from his myspace. If I correctly recall I posted the link to this very statement to the comments section on your rumors section a week or so ago, when your headline read "A Gay Jungle Brother?!?!". I also hit up the following days' page with some info on his pagan thing too. While you are at it maybe you can skip back to the comments section & check out the info another one of your readers left regarding the origin of the pics.

(Dude's girlfriend with terminal cancer decided to make him up at a party full of pretty attractive women-not a bunch of queer dudes-ala Kelso @ the slumber party w the girls on That 70's show-he put the pics up on his myspace supposedly as a tribute to her & also to prove he doesn't give a fuck what people say or think)

I'm not sayin' anything about anything. I was a big fan of the Natives & the JB'z & I was hoping to find an interview where he would get a chance to clear things up-not an old rehash of info I already knew-& put many here on ahh up on to with a few simple mouseclicks-without trying to defame anyone or speak ill (no pun) of before gathering more info.

I don't know about this pagan shit, nor the photo's. To each their own I guess. If dude IS GAY I know I won't spend a lot of time dwelling on it. Shit, I live in Seattle. I'm around gays daily. They are real people just like anybody else. Same goes for freaks & weirdos too. Whatever. I don't have to sleep with them nor am I interested in what they do in their private lives. Shit, I don't want to know what most straight people do let alone some old Adam & Steve ish.

Oh well. Props I guess for letting folks know what dude is up to-even if it is some old next shit.

Illseed-you are true school-for that & your candor & usually unbiased & levelheaded perspective I respect you & appreciate what you do. Keep the real hip-hop info coming.

Peace

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illseed — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:20:31 GMT

maybe i am ignorant, but i dont see hip hop as that bad. maybe we should start a site called bitterhiphop.com. this is where the angry people go.

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Styles — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:32:13 GMT

Wow. So this has what's become of the Jungle Brothers?

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rep4304life — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:34:29 GMT

quite simply an example of how much that time period influenced people.

you take cats from the street and give them instant success, then take it away there will be damage.

i think the brother needs help. the pagan talk and make up is probably a way to reach out.
illseed i respect you but you oversimplify it by calling it bitter. the o g's should be heralded. without for without hip hop. there would be no allhiphop.

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Tommy K. — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:35:14 GMT

I agree with you illseed. Sure hip-hop is nothing like it was in the 80's & 90's but it is what it is. We need versatility in hip-hop. I blame the lyrical cats more so than the snap rapers. Lyricist or whatever other genera of hip-hop just need to step there game up because you can't hate on the next man for doing them. Also the fans need to understand that hip-hop needs balance... I bet too many people couldn't even give me the true meaning of "Real Hip-Hop" (*Hint It doesn't necessarily mean the type you like or grew up on)

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illseed — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:46:24 GMT

rep4304life - come on, pops. i take my stand ever day homey. and i give it up to dudes like AWESOME DRE, SMOOTHE the huster, MC REN....this is within the last month alone...now, you have to be aware of who you are talking to b4 you start talking. what i do and have done speaks for itself. there is no disputing that the pioneers should be upheld, but is that what we are talking about? NAH,not really. i evn put some of the jungle brothers on top, and b4 just so cats dont get too flagrant. them dudes are some of the best Hip-hop has ever had...and definitely one of the best crews ever (native tongues.) in fact,Bam is one of the the founders. so, hold up.

he said hip-hop is dead. thats not true. KRS one is still rapping on a level that most 80s cats cant even conceive. melle mel is always entertaining.now, ffwd to 2008 and if you are willing to look, you will FIND quality hip-hop is cats like fat joe or cats like talib, jean grae, murs, wale, heiro, any #of cats down south and even the last 2 G-unit mixtapes...i mean, the list is endless...the roots, lupe, dice raw, wu tang.

cats are SPOILED. i used to enjoy discovering the next big thing.not waiting for it to be fed to me. now, when i said bitterhiphop.com i wasnt even talking about anybody in particular, but all this angst and whatever is a clash of generations. sure it WAS more POPPIN in the 90s and 80s but those periods had a lotta pure TRASH too. so its the same thing, the only thing is a lotta the trash is commerically accepted and there is no rejection by the rap community. they just accept it. so there are points in Bam's editorial that i agree with and others that i dont.

i always pay my respects to the old school cats, because i actually love and respect what they do. its real. melle mel is the GREATEST. period, but so is Jay, nas, kane, pac, biggie and kool g rap...ll cool j. There are a lotta Goats. some ppl just wnat it to be pac and big.

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coughdrop — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:32:25 GMT

Baby Bam is on point but the star trek look is messing with me.and illseed hip hop is fucked you are on allhiphop they don't even include every aspect of hip hop because lone catalyst is never on your site nor j rawls nor are there interviews with count bass d real underground acts.

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SFE Marketing — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:38:13 GMT

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syncity — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:42:19 GMT

umm...this can be kinda sexy on sum prince sh*t...i dunno? lol
his makeup only look like when i make dudes wear em just for fetish reasons...!

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L-grand — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 20:53:46 GMT

But still the fact remains that, by putting up the gay-looking photos along with the info from his MySpace, the man gets looked at in a wrong way by arguably everybody who visits allhiphop.com on a regular base.
If you check out his girl's (yes, his girl's..) blog you'll find out that the pictures and the make-up are done by her in her crib and not at that Pagan Society club or whatever: http://dishalicious.blogspot.com/feeds/posts/default

Check it & you'll find out that his girl is quite sick and Bam is obviously in the middle of some rough times. The whole Pagan thing and philosophy is also of no interest to me, but I think this whole subject is wrongly interpreted and should be corrected for those who are genuinely interested.

PeAce, L.

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Katalyst — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:01:42 GMT

Wow he kilt it! But no, dressin up like that is just as much of a gimmick as Puffy and Mase wit the silver suites.

When its all said and done we cant be mad at what the kids choose to listen to and define as theirs.

Hip Hop is now in Cyber space and whoever controls that will ultimately determine how its defined "ALLHIPHOP.COM"

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MrLolaLegacy — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:29:52 GMT

L Grand I totally agree with you he is a grown ass man and if he is doing it out of love for you his woman then so be it.

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WhoRyde — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:39:41 GMT

Why everybody blaming hip hop for changing? It was destine to change. If ever rapper did the same thing then who would want to listen to it. If you want your type of music to be popular again, YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT IT AND BUY IT. Stop downloading shit for free, that doesn't help the artist.

Dudes just need to do them and stop worrying about the next rappers pockets. These dudes can say whatever they want about rappers making money bottom line your living in America, ain't shit free not even a feeling. You don't believe me ask a dope addict. Quote from Tye Banks song "Cash Money"

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anzee11 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:11:55 GMT

Hip Hop was always about the new dance songs and shit as well as that gutter hardcore shit. Remember Kid N Play? Big Daddy Kane even danced in his videos. Same difference?

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rep4304life — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:26:37 GMT

I want to clarify the position. I'm making a statement about your bitter comment not your dedication to hip hop. I follow your column, and truly believe for the most part your incite on the state, progression or lack of in hip hop is authentic and enlightening. I just want us all to pay attention to the originators of this thing . I want us all to focus on showing these dudes respect, if not financially but to their legacy. culturally we (black/hispanic people) have an media induced disconnect with everything thats us. it's been going on for years, and hip hop is not exempt. when you put stories up like this one it is a great spark for discussion as well as a history lesson for a major part of your audience.

it's just when I saw that Bitter comment from YOU it took me by surprise.
since you may know first hand what the Jb's brought to the table.
strange or not. (and I fully believe that brother needs some psychiatric help. )

the Jungle brothers are one of the cornerstones of the rebirth of what we know as Hip hop.

and no disrespect to the pioneers.

so I guess we are saying the same thing. less the bitter statement.

here are some other groups that without the JB's we may not have known about.

Q Tip
Tribe
Monie Love
Queen latifa
De la Soul
Busta Rhyme and the leaders of the New skool
X Clan
naugty by nature
anybody listed in the "back pack movement"

and a anyone in the world the 500 billion dollar hip hop influenced planet thats imoved by the creative stylings of a these few that gave their time, life and maybe their sanity to hip hop .

respect.

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DEEP EAST OAKLAND P — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:47:17 GMT

1. Did he just diss kanye west?

2. If he not feeling rap anymore wtf is he doing with banks?

3. Is he coming out the closet in this post?

I been said this fool was sweet awhile back but nobody would listen to me cause I was young back then.

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DEEP EAST OAKLAND P — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 22:51:44 GMT

O yeah I don't know about no k west dick burger.

but I'll take a gabrielle union pie thugh.I'll put my face in that pie!

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zacreole1976 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:16:44 GMT

It's nice to be invisible

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zacreole1976 — Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:17:56 GMT

Fuck it, I'll see what Bol is up to.

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coughdrop — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:23:01 GMT

i don't know dude might be wierd but his tracks are hot as fuuuuuuuuuck on his myspace page.

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Hot Rod! — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:49:50 GMT

Minus the eye shadow, lip gloss and gimp out fit from "Pulp Fiction" (MAYNARD: "I think The Gimp's sleepin'." , ZED: "Well, I guess you'll just wake 'em up then, won't you?") he brings some good points about the state of Hip-Hop. I guess this is one of those "listen to the message and not the messenger" moments.

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HipHop 81 — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:12:19 GMT

"The text sounds like a Jehovahs witness or other religious sect member wrote it."

Who writes stuff like this?????????????????????????????????????
Are you serious. Think before typing people,. please.lololol

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MusicWorth! — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:23:12 GMT

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j.johnson — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:26:17 GMT

"Like Martin Luther King these cows under the control of crafty poverty-pimps fought to be integrated in the systems date-raping machine"

People kill me comparing making music...to the life and death struggle that Martin was fighting. Im all for "real" hip hop and all that jazz...but dude is on some other stuff.

"We're Pagan and everything we do is Pagan!"

and

"We Paganize every THING until your brain can't remember what it was 'told' to call it."

Sound more like some anti religious stuff...or some im going to rebel against everything just because type of thing, which in itself is just another "trend" or "culture" for lack of better terms.

On the real...just shut up and make some music...do some shows. Stop complaining about the state of hip hop and do something about it. Who cares if they play the same shit on the radio all day...now days radio spins do account for record sales. So you have artist with the # 1 song doing 35,000 records. Thats not too far off from strong independent albums without radio play.

Hip Hop music is made everyday...in every city...In this day and age we have more resources to hear artist than ever before. Countless websites and myspace pages full of every type of music. If you want some "real hip hop"...stop crying and listen to it. Records sales is down but people still buying ipods and other mp3 players...what exactly are we filling them up with? Umm...music.

....steps off his soap box

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TWON THE DON — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 05:32:38 GMT

so that means you gay right?

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TheSoulController — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 05:39:42 GMT

couldnt he make those points without dressing like a fag? damn..

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slice1 — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 05:48:57 GMT

oh yea it's official homey dont lost his mind!!

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DtodaJ — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:08:35 GMT

Riiight. This nigga lost his damn mind. He needs to get out the CLOOSET (shout-out to R. Kelly lol)! But farealdo look, I was complainin about how Hip Hop ain't the same too, but my nigga Mike put it like this: Hip Hop isn't DEAD, it's just having BABIES. For example, Rock gave birth to Punk, Emo, Alternative, Metal, etc. Just like Hip Hop has given birth to Hyphy, Crunk, Trip Hop, House, and so on. If you don't like the state of Hip Hop's mainstream, then TURN THE SHIT OFF like I do. There's never a shortage of the kind of Hip Hop each individual person likes, unless you stop looking. Mainstream will probably never go back to its roots, so stop bitching. Peace.

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DtodaJ — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:09:53 GMT

...and fuck you, by the way. Graduation was a tight album lol

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DaWildchild — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 06:13:04 GMT

Man fuck what you sayin' man this niggas gay. Don't nobody go areound talking pictures on grinded on couches with lipstick and leather on. This nigga is on that pawnshop, two dollar trick ticket type shit and he as glossy as Lil' Mama's lips. Things ending the world....gay ass shit like this. The whole speech he typed is wackness. This is some Sha Nay Nay ass shit. This dude gets the gas face man.

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Cholo1510 — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 07:14:28 GMT

Whats his deal, its not that serious lol...Stop trying to discourage minority entertainers from getting money!!!

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HPT_D_Nice_1 — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 07:37:56 GMT

what does this have to do with the fact that he's wearing makeup and acting like a woman?

This n***a done lost his mind! - RRT - Real Rap Talk

Anonymous — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:18:46 GMT

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THE ZION — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:22:29 GMT

Afrika bam is no dummy he knows just how to use the machine..He is trying to a get message out in this fake matrix hip hop bullshit buisness.. Just like all these corny rappers, everytime they new album about to drop or a mixtape, they start to talk some crazy shit bout somebody to get a buzz..Controversy sells everything in hip hop now. You see how it got us reading this article, but then when you finish the article through all that crazy shit he said, you begin to say to yourselves some of the shit he says IS SOOOO TRUE!!!! About the hip hop business.. Everyone look past the costtume and hear what he is sayin. Think for yoursrlves.. Peace Afrika and use the Machine to get the message out!!!!

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jerzey379 — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 12:35:16 GMT

HE HAS ON MAD LIPGLOSS WITH BLUE EYE SHADOW!
I DONT WANNA HEAR ANYTHING HE HAS TO SAY ABOUT
ANYTHING, UNTIL HE PUTS ON SOME REAL CLOTHES!
DUDE HAS LOST HIS DAMN MIND!
HE LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THEM DUDES SUPERMAN WAS
FIGHTING IN SUPERMAN 2 OR 3! THE THREE DUDES IN THE BLACK LEATHER JOINTS!

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coolidgeforpresident — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:34:57 GMT

rep4304life said:
I want to clarify the position. I'm making a statement about your bitter comment not your dedication to hip hop. I follow your column, and truly believe for the most part your incite on the state, progression or lack of in hip hop is authentic and enlightening. I just want us all to pay attention to the originators of this thing . I want us all to focus on showing these dudes respect, if not financially but to their legacy. culturally we (black/hispanic people) have an media induced disconnect with everything thats us. it's been going on for years, and hip hop is not exempt. when you put stories up like this one it is a great spark for discussion as well as a history lesson for a major part of your audience.

it's just when I saw that Bitter comment from YOU it took me by surprise.
since you may know first hand what the Jb's brought to the table.
strange or not. (and I fully believe that brother needs some psychiatric help. )

the Jungle brothers are one of the cornerstones of the rebirth of what we know as Hip hop.

and no disrespect to the pioneers.

so I guess we are saying the same thing. less the bitter statement.

here are some other groups that without the JB's we may not have known about.

Q Tip
Tribe
Monie Love
Queen latifa
De la Soul
Busta Rhyme and the leaders of the New skool
X Clan
naugty by nature
anybody listed in the "back pack movement"

and a anyone in the world the 500 billion dollar hip hop influenced planet thats imoved by the creative stylings of a these few that gave their time, life and maybe their sanity to hip hop .

respect.

March 21, 2008 6:26 PM

that was a real statement bruh...!! and i feel what hes saying about how we (im 30 years old) used to look down on non creative moves in hip hop by an artist. and how biting was looked down upon, orginality was everything. basic laws of hip hop are dead and not even taken into consideration anymore. hip hop has definately been pimped because of some characters that have been let in to the game year by year as hip hop manifested and evolved.

the young generation has gotten a bad rap and at the same time lack of education on what hip hop is, what its about, what its purpose is and was at the beggining. and most importantly the history of who said what and who the artist was as a person.

In other genres, Rand B, rock, jazz etc
old songs that were good and are still good and stand the test of time get played and are cherished. I feel in hip hop we dont do the history enough. we dont understand what was going on at the time when a lot of songs were made. the Doors had a place where they were coming from. they had a position. Ice cube had a position. rodney king, civil rights, black panthers, gang life, all were in his music because thats what was going on at the time. there was a certain pride and respect and emcee had to have and had at those times. we are talking about BAM and the jungle brothers. they had a position and strog one starting the native tounges. and i think thats where most hip hop fans are lost. they are from a generation where the struggle is blanketed by wool that gradually fell over everyones eyes in the guise of money and corporations watering down hip hop. and instead infesting chains, and whips and bullshit. yeah that rhymes. what what about the times, crying times. in vietnam we had the music reflecting what was going on u can listen to the era of musica and it bleeds for change, peace and it was relevant to the time. in this era of iraq and black president hopefuls and possible women presidents when they couldnt vote just before i was born. where in the music will be able to look back and listen to revelant history in our music. we will here chains, party, and strip ur clothes off and get low. when the realest shit in a long time in life and govt is going on. i mention cube in this because if u look at 'gangsta rap made me do it' video u see footage of whats going on and real issues of today. thats what cube is about. thats what hip hop is about. the real. the real how it is. no bullshit just raw footage.

I saw one post about someone referring to big daddy kane dancing in his video or some stupid shit like that.

back in those days and at that time in hip hop for u to see a video of Big Daddy Kane at all!!! you had to realize u had to have have hot music that people respected. and those songs were already known on the streets and was popular to the point that with barely no media outlets for videos in any genre of music to mention videos then, u are missing the point. how many people on here had favorite artistsand never knew what they looked like. if u cant raise ur hand u have to question if u love the music or love what is forcefed down ur mouth.

like BAM said if u already ate sooooo much bullshit whas one more bite...?? rarely did you see a video and not know what the person was about lyrically, and on the streets. Hip hop was the street element. and i dont mean crime i mean what the word was on the streetes at the time. like BAM said hip hop was for people in the know!

as an example. There is a Rocko (spelling) video out "Imma do me". now he is almost a household name with a song thats hard to avoid. in this day you know his face and one song from him and he has a video already. now i dont know who rocko is. where hes from. i havent heard ANY other song i dont know if hes nice on the mic. I dont know what crew he runs with. i dont know where hes from in the south ( i know hes south and he sounds like jeezy wrote that song and gave it to him for his birthday). but my point is why is the corporation pushing this song. what made it so hot that the video had to be made. and what about rocko affords him to be a star so soon before we love his music....????

doesnt love come first???

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allfruitsripe_ — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:56:22 GMT

i think he dressn like that just to display that he dont give a fuck....and hes provin it by the homo replies ppl givin him. goin against the grain is his deal, he was grindin the grain even with JB. his homowear is on the same level as soulja boy in a long ass tee and some crazy sunglasses on. they are just stayn true to themselves, doin whats comfortable to them. why the fuck would he hafta explain lookin homo...if he was takin it in the ass, he'd prolly woulda announced it, cuz a homo that wear those clothes would are self righteous muthafukcaz, and make sure yall knew how gay he was

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everybodyisasnitch — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:12:57 GMT

The thing about hip hop changing is.....the music is the same ish on the radio...RB sound just like Rap. No different sounds...I just want a little of everything, like the early 90s

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QT007 — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:17:22 GMT

I cant even lie Bam is living in a comic book.It sounds like he's in a CULT.

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The Bishop — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:39:14 GMT

The Devil is a Liar!

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rep4304life — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 15:44:11 GMT

that fact that the love and passion for hip hop has opened conversation like this bodes well for the music and the culture. it's pure passion that we have that will one day balance this game. passion for it made it this big in the first place.

allhip hop is a very good site. even I think better than the source was in its day because the average fan gets the opportunity to voice themselves.

peace to everyone here that voices their opinion based on knowledge and sincerity. and even those that don't still get the opportunity to learn a little.

and without sounding corny...pray for AFRIKA.. baby B.A.M

one day he will wake up from his nightmare and read some of this concern and be proud that someone gave a f%$ about him.

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bligz — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:40:03 GMT

yea, duke doing his thing,.....I caught him in harlem early morning..25th front of popeyes..swinging off the back of a garbage truck , dressed in a thong backwards with the label showing making fire siren sounds holding on to the truck with one hand and waving the other arm in the air in circular motion like he was a cowboy with a rope

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illseed — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:17:09 GMT

i am interested in seeing what his thought are on KRS one. nobody really mentioned that diss towards the temple of hip hop. he was also a memeber of the zulu nation. with this pagan movement, where does that fall in line with NOW. Bam still raps, but hip hop is dead. hhhmmmmmmm...still confused.

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Backspin202 — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:28:14 GMT

Cmon man you ain't foolin nobody..At least not me.

http://crucial202.podOmatic.com/rss2.xml

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truepower7 — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:37:40 GMT

I thouhgt he was Godbody. I c now he's a damn fool.

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Code of Iron — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 17:59:23 GMT

being anti fake hip hop is one thing. but dressing up like a bitch is another. im all for the destruction of all this bullshit that passed off as hip hop,but this nigga done lost his damn mind W.T.F!!!

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Code of Iron — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:00:54 GMT

bligz said:
yea, duke doing his thing,.....I caught him in harlem early morning..25th front of popeyes..swinging off the back of a garbage truck , dressed in a thong backwards with the label showing making fire siren sounds holding on to the truck with one hand and waving the other arm in the air in circular motion like he was a cowboy with a rope

LOL!!!! that shit is funny as hell!!!!

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AZTEC WARRIOR — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 18:57:02 GMT

DUDE LOOKS GAY!!

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AZTEC WARRIOR — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:11:12 GMT

LOYD BANKS LOOKS HOMO STANDING NEXT TO DUDE!! HE PROBABLY LUVS THA COCK!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

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MRGODBYROAD — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:26:05 GMT

HAS BEEN PUNK!! HOW DARE HIM TAKE A SHOT A CEE-LO(MAGILA GORILLA)!!! CEE-LO WOULD RAP CIRCLES AROUND THIS PUNK ASS FOOL!!! DON'T LET THE SINGIN FOOL YOU!!! CHECK OUT ANY GOODIE MOB ALBUM AND THE DF ALBUM!! JUST BECAUSE HE IS MUCH MUCH MUCH MORE TALENTED THAN YOU DON'T MEAN YOU GOTTA HATE!!! I AM A FAN OF THE OLD NT CREW!! BUT NOW YOU LOOK FOOLISH AND LOST!!!

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MRGODBYROAD — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:48:11 GMT

@TRUE POWER 7

YOU GODBODY? IF SO PEACE GOD

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Akaneon1 — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:37:56 GMT

I think it's funny that you see all the white rockstars with makeup and eyeliner and it's normal, but a black guy does it and suddenly he's automatically gay. They're closer to being industrial music, so having an industrial style image is probably better for them. Referencing Pretty Hate Machine... look at all the makeup worn by Trent Reznor.

The problem is not what he looks like but the fact that the message he's sending has nothing to do with the music he's putting out. Who cares what religion you are or if you're gay or not, where's the music? Where's the audio link? For every rapper that talks about 'my album has this, my album has that'... needs album links or video links or something.

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j.johnson — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 22:42:06 GMT

@ Akaneon1...

You said...and i totally respect your opinion..."I think it's funny that you see all the white rockstars with makeup and eyeliner and it's normal, but a black guy does it and suddenly he's automatically gay"

But...them rock and roll dudes who dress and wear that stuff...they all in the same catergory. I dont know who Trent Reznor is...but if he dress and act like dude do...yeah i lump them together.

Now on the audio links point...im with you all the way. Stop complaing about the state of hip hop and let me here what you gotta say on the beat. Im with that

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realone — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:36:13 GMT

@akaneon1 White rockers who wear makeup are just as suspect to me. I feel if you wear eyeliner, lipstick, makeup that is real suspect. Then he has some nerve to refer to Kanye as a gay rapper when he is the one dressed up in shiny leather suite, makeup, red lipstick and all. I did like some of the songs that jungle brothers did with tribe called quest and delasoul but I think this guy done lost his mind.

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canipost? — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 00:40:45 GMT

hip hop dont need saving, or denise rodman in a cat woman suit. his rhetoric is anti hip hop, and on a more personal level, any man wearing lip stick and eye shadow should get curb stomped!

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LowerDaBoom — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:44:28 GMT

What real man would let his girlfriend dress him up like a woman, in makeup? That's bullshit. Did you read all of the shit that he said? That dude is ranting. It just seemed almost incoherent to me. Why put the pictures on Myspace if you're not gay when you know millions of Jungle Brothers fans are going to see it and wonder? He could have done the pictures and kept them to himself. What's his problem?

Dude is gay, in my opinion. Banks standing next to him isn't helping out G-Unit.

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Mornin Man — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 02:55:06 GMT

Gotta start off by saying I've always dug the JB's. Baby Bam, Mike G & Sammie B fo real. "I'm Gonna Do Ya" is a bonafide classic among many others of their songs...but damn, Bam just sounds like one of the grumpy old uncles of hip hop. I know for a fact hip hop ain't dead. Saw Kweli & Pharoah Monche this past Wednesday & it looks like hip hop is doing fine. It really surprised me seeing that this guy gave his assessment of hip hop based on what's being played on the major outlets. C'mon Bam, you know the game. Have you even listened to Eardrum? Finding Forever? Get Back? American Gangster? Desire? Underground Kingz? The Cool? Hell...go listen to the fire AHH got posted on the Media Zone. I DARE you to say hip hop is dead after listening to any one of those sets...I'm disappointed in Bam & I ain't even trippin' on the new look...live & let live...

BTW...I'll have a couple of dem titty tacos but make mine a super-sized Lisa Lisa combo!!

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Simply Dat Nigga — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 05:32:29 GMT

HULK IN DIS BITCH!!!

LOOKS LIKE ONE OF THE JB'S IS GIVING BJ'S LMFAO!!!

HULK OUT!!!

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VICNASTY22 — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 06:37:10 GMT

wus wit d makeup fam??? That and the fem poses pretty much makes all else irrelevant.

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googiemike707 — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 09:55:23 GMT

LOL @ bligs

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ATL$t@r — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:28:25 GMT

ummm, yea...but why are you dressed like catwoman??

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THE ZION — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:46:50 GMT

We have Homophobia in the black community...I seen cats with the baggy clothes, hat cock to the side, dorag on, and put on this front like their hard as hell but will toss some salad in a minute.. Ask the majority of cats in the pen if they gay i bet they will say no. Just because you dress the part don't mean you are the part... Some of yall need to look at that cat right next to you!!!!

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69_delta88 — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:15:34 GMT

I love the JB but I aint down with this pagan movement shit, So like with most HIP HOP now I will continue to keep my ear to the old shit and scan through this new shit.

@ATL

you Killed me with that Catwomen comment....lol

Hey Peace and Blessing HIP HOP!

Obama 08 Bring the Troops home we ready and waiting

What up to all the AHH family on here

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M. Trinidad — Sun, 23 Mar 2008 14:30:00 GMT

i agree with the music system killing hip hop culture.

Why does he have to put make-up and lip stick on to say that?

wild homo

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Akaneon1 — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:29:25 GMT

Trent Reznor is the frontman for Nine Inch Nails. He actually is an admitted bisexual, but no one cares because Nine Inch Nails, to their fans, is legendary. Ozzy Osbourne wears tons of makeup, and he's married with kids.

I'm just saying we shouldn't judge by image. What I was really saying is that if you're gonna make statements like this and toss around some wild ass image you should have some kind of musical presentation to go with it.

Where is his music, fam? I haven't heard anything new from them in years, no albums, nothing. No longer relevant.