Crooked I: The Life & Times Of Crooked I, Pt. 1

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hiphop0011 — Wed, 28 May 2008 18:25:08 GMT

I have seen his pics on a celeb dating site named " Ma r r yMillionai r e.Co m ". I don’t understand what he do on that site.Does he want to date with some girls?

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hiphop0011 — Wed, 28 May 2008 18:25:08 GMT

I have seen his pics on a celeb dating site named " Ma r r yMillionai r e.Co m ". I don’t understand what he do on that site.Does he want to date with some girls?

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WEST COAST EMT — Wed, 28 May 2008 18:25:39 GMT

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CROOKED I FOR NEW WEST PREZ FUCK THE REST

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Styles — Wed, 28 May 2008 18:40:11 GMT

Part 2 coming soon!

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gunot_17 — Wed, 28 May 2008 18:59:44 GMT

Crooked is a beast.
Everybody go support a real artist and cop BOSS when it drops.

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koolg — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:15:30 GMT

best rapper alive.

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adopefemalemc — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:28:59 GMT

Damn. I aint kno he was raised on it LIKE THAT?! Five years old?! Damn!! I heard a freestyle from him the other day on the radio, this mufucka is from another galaxy. Youtube his freestyle w/ Sway on the Wakeup Show, also. no words for this lyricist. Cant describe.

http://www.myspace.com/keyannabean

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Esq. of LastLeveL — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:33:14 GMT

Good interview.

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n8ive_outlaw420 — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:39:26 GMT

Crooked I Tha TRUTH!!

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Flex Wheeler — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:40:54 GMT

The best of the west.

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grandpa dope smoke — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:48:07 GMT

the best rapper to never drop an album...

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LbC YuH 562 — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:49:27 GMT

Dis Nigga Crooked A Monsta! East Side Long Beach Get Da Fuk Up! Everyone In My City Need to Embrace da Nigga, cuz He Killin It. He Murdered All dem Beats He fucked wit too! GoNe!

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LbC YuH 562 — Wed, 28 May 2008 19:51:41 GMT

N I Feel Da Nigga Cuz My Nigga Dont Need No Gimmicks Or Drama to Be Da Shit. Keep Doin U My Nig!

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MACCAPONE — Wed, 28 May 2008 20:04:02 GMT

crooked i is doing it big that my boy for real cuzz..... WEST COAST LOC.......

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Freeway Pinky Ross — Wed, 28 May 2008 20:12:45 GMT

Im so glad my nigga Crooked is gettin his shine, and who was that little guy with the dreds who said he was the best rapper alive again? lol

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Baller6HF — Wed, 28 May 2008 20:32:09 GMT

crooked i is the hottest out of the west right now

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odeisel — Wed, 28 May 2008 20:40:17 GMT

one of the nastiest gutter rappers i ever heard straight up. not quite canibus in 98 status yet, but just a monster. not a problem you want lyrically

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Flipaveli — Wed, 28 May 2008 21:00:54 GMT

Crooked I is that motherfunker!!!!!! West Up!!!!!

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HTyson — Wed, 28 May 2008 21:21:44 GMT

Crooked I has gotten really dope recently, especially with all those freestyles he has been putting out recently, they are funny as shit and he keeps it 100... His old stuff isn't nearly as good tho... He has gotten alot better...

His explanation of why he stayed on death row was real dope, he saw it for what it was and made a bad situation good while he learned a lot. He is smart as hell for having zero education...

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richie sick — Wed, 28 May 2008 21:34:15 GMT

my nigga crook! what up mane? man, we proud of you. you're a shining example. keep hustlin. we rootin for you.

remember back in the days at bli on wilmington? gyeah!

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Outlawamsterdam — Wed, 28 May 2008 21:38:02 GMT

Crooked Icon i'm listening for over 10 years to his music. Drop boss..

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West Coast 562 — Wed, 28 May 2008 21:47:07 GMT

man crooked been puttin it down.... go checc out his verses when he was featured wit the LBC Crew. U gotta be from long beach to know about that 19th Street shit from C-Style. This N/S tho @ LBC . That nigga techniec said throw a bomb and make him a reciever and ill LBC yuh...

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Tommy K. — Wed, 28 May 2008 22:11:38 GMT

I can't wait 4 this album man. My hat goes off this my dude.

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TonyMalibu — Wed, 28 May 2008 22:39:59 GMT

Dude is an incredible lyricist, probably the best there is right now, but he's missing an ingredient...a MAIN ingredient and I can't put my finger on it. I think it's his persona...or, his ability to relate to the public. Or maybe it's just because he hasn't got the light he deserves. Maybe he'll grow out of it.

Moving along...

Crooked I went ON and ON and ON about how dirt poor his family was, but in the earlier part of the interview he told how his mother went out and bought him all these records, bought studio time when he was 8, and shit. So either one of three things:

1) He's lying about growing up below the poverty line.

2) His mother didn't know how to manage money, thus resulting in their below poverty lifestyle.

3) His mother fell off somewhere between his kiddie and teen years.

Sorry, had to point that out.

Tony

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richie sick — Wed, 28 May 2008 23:00:10 GMT

@TonyMalibu said

you trippin. i will admit that he mentioned being below the poverty line mutiple times in the interview. but maybe he had something to get off his chest. a sore point he wanted to express. after all, he don't get too many interview profiles. in fact, i think i wrote one of the first pieces on him, in 2000 for rappages magazine.

to your points:

1) just cuz he had some records don't mean he can't be living in poverty. records can be got for cheap if you buy them used. and studio time could have just been someone's garage.

2) what do you care about how his mom manage the family money? and is that crook's fault?

3) again, why you judging his mama? you really reachin for some shit to attack him with.

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NewWest-310 — Wed, 28 May 2008 23:08:32 GMT

Thank You Tim "Styles" Sanchez - Seriously.

The whole game has been sleeping on this dude and the worst part is, he is being undermined by his own side. Uncle S___p needs to pass the torch to this dude. Almost every verse is straight fire and he can kill any beat.

I cant believe ya'll gon make me wait for part 2 tho. DAMN!!!

NEW WEST!!

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NewWest-310 — Wed, 28 May 2008 23:19:06 GMT

& Co-Sign Richie Sick on both points.

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TonyMalibu — Wed, 28 May 2008 23:26:40 GMT

@ richie sick

Nah I ain't reachin homie. I'm just sayin!!! LOL! I mean...nothing against him as an artist...dude is INCREDIBLE and has grown since that "slinging a Tupac and Shakur" line. Dude is definitely a beast (with a missing ingredient I might add...but that's a different story).

But damn! He contradicted his self a billion times in this interview! I know cats do that on wax...but in an interview?!?!?!?!?!? It's like he realized he admitted that his childhood wasn't so bad early on, and tried to make up for it by CONSTANTLY reminding us he was dirt poor. I was actually trying to help him out by stating those three scenarios, but nobody gives a fuck when I try and help them! See how cats do?

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TonyMalibu — Wed, 28 May 2008 23:35:38 GMT

And as for my third point...."His mother fell off somewhere between his kiddie and teen years," that does seem a bit cloudy when I go back in read it.

What I meant was, maybe she lost her job or ability to provide for her family somewhere between that time, which resulted in their poverty lifestyle. That wasn't a judge or diss to Crooked's mom. I wouldn't make fun of stuff like that.

I'm just saying...he left a lot of pot holes in this interview. Maybe he'll clear it up in part 2.

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Theyztenz — Thu, 29 May 2008 01:39:52 GMT

LBC in the building, West Coast in the building...his album is gonna be a classic.

Lakers in '08 bitches!!!

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Gigga Man — Thu, 29 May 2008 02:01:25 GMT

Crooked I is whazz-up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Pilly Da Kid — Thu, 29 May 2008 02:20:58 GMT

How is this nigga relevent? Suge sprinkled sugar on this niggas asshole and fucked him repeatedly...

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Gemini1973 — Thu, 29 May 2008 02:58:15 GMT

Nice interview Styles. Looking forward to part 2.

Always good to see Crook getting his props. He's the epitome of perseverance in the rap game. Anyone else would've said "f*** it" a long time ago, but Crook stays up swinging. His persistence is undeniable.

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Styles — Thu, 29 May 2008 03:18:05 GMT

NewWest-310 & Gemini1973, thanks! I appreciate the support. Keep supporting these West Coast artists here on AHH.

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SagNasty989 — Thu, 29 May 2008 03:54:15 GMT

FIRST LET ME KEEP IT 1 HUNNED..LYRICALLY CROOKED I IS WITHOUT DOUBT A TALENTED BEAST ON THE MIC..REAL TALK...but damn fam, i'm kind of gettin tired of the "had to hustle and support my family when i was young"..man on my hood my nig, i aint neva known not one mufucka in the streets gettin gwap to try to help moms pay bills...man when I was out there and my niggas was out there we was gettin that gwap to try ta stunt, stay geared, and sit on some gold d's in a regal, cutlass or mc...i mean in all, yeah we shoot sumtin fa moms and lil snot nose brother and sister, but the game was more so of a selfish ME ME ME thing...ya know..i mean that's how it was/is where I'm from in michigan..it may be different else where...i mean yeah moms n pops duke struggles or whateva at times but they did enough to keep a suitable home up to par in terms of basic needs..lights..food..water..electricity..i hope my mans aint talking bout poverty in terms of not having a nice size tv, name brand shoes, fresh 8 pair of guess and i.o.u jeans and karl kani or cross colours (yeah yall remember them joints 1990-94)...thats not poverty...thats just not having ya wants compared to needs...which in later make you wanna justify to go out and sell yay..thats a cop out..then we wanna make it seem heroic by sayin "yeah, I had to provide fa my family"...i really aint sayin that's the case with crooked I but I just notice that a lot with many of these rap cats..game recognize gamne...just keepin it 1 hunned..ALL IS WELL MOES..KEY 2-0...BLACK P STONES IN THE JUNGLES out in L.A I SEE YOU STAND UP!!! ABPSN midwest/michigan chapter ..el rukns!

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Tha1&Only — Thu, 29 May 2008 04:45:48 GMT

THIS

NIGGA

WOULD

MURDER

LIL WAYNE!!!

yeah i said it....whut?

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chocolaterain — Thu, 29 May 2008 04:46:30 GMT

Crooked I gives us hope again in hiphop. This guy is the epitome of an MC. i hope he gets the recognition he deserves.

@tonyMalibu...calm down dude. u the FBi or sumthn? he was just answering questions he was writing a damn autobigrophy,sh*!

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adopefemalemc — Thu, 29 May 2008 06:07:27 GMT

SagNasty989 said:
FIRST LET ME KEEP IT 1 HUNNED..LYRICALLY CROOKED I IS WITHOUT DOUBT A TALENTED BEAST ON THE MIC..REAL TALK...but damn fam, i'm kind of gettin tired of the "had to hustle and support my family when i was young"..man on my hood my nig, i aint neva known not one mufucka in the streets gettin gwap to try to help moms pay bills...man when I was out there and my niggas was out there we was gettin that gwap to try ta stunt, stay geared, and sit on some gold d's in a regal, cutlass or mc...i mean in all, yeah we shoot sumtin fa moms and lil snot nose brother and sister, but the game was more so of a selfish ME ME ME thing...ya know.., etc etc etc
***********************************************

I SO feel that, i have mixed feelings about bein in that game in th 1st place, but the family I got doin that shit don't kick down shit to Great Grandma, etc. I gotta buy TP for her house and give her bingo money while niggas livin up in her house in $1000 fits and aint doin shit. I went to a conference where Chuck D was speaking & he referred to cats on they raps proclaimin "I gotta eat, I gotta eat." Chuck D says "HOW MUCH???"

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King Eljay — Thu, 29 May 2008 06:14:19 GMT

This dude be spazzin out on beats mayne.... still dunno why he isn't signed FOR REAL yet...

Aight chief. Part two coming soon...

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richie sick — Thu, 29 May 2008 08:00:41 GMT

@adopefemalemc said

good shit. that's a geat quote from chuck. he got that game that niggas need to be listening to.

don't sell your soul for capital!

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Tempest II. — Thu, 29 May 2008 09:21:49 GMT

honestly, lyrically, there really is nobody fuckin' w/ Crooked I...
dude is a monster, hands down...if u ain't hip, go cop some of the Sway & Tech Wake up show shit...

but if u look at it like this, loyalty is everything and it's apparent Crooked has always been a LOYAL dude, even if he was dealin' w/ one of the most fucked up businessmen in the industry

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R.I.P X1 — Thu, 29 May 2008 09:27:30 GMT

copping BOSS for sure, australia be knowing

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adopefemalemc — Thu, 29 May 2008 09:41:25 GMT

@ Ritche Slick

So, see, now u got me havin mixed feelins about u!! On one forum/comment, u hate like a female!! Then u spit the truth!! who the fuck sent u??? Cuz I aint no joke, I'll send u back to where u came from...

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K.r.u.n.k.y — Thu, 29 May 2008 11:24:41 GMT

cob - treacherous in the fuckin building.

boss is a certified classic already

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TonyMalibu — Thu, 29 May 2008 12:37:55 GMT

@SagNasty989

Gotta John Hancock that one, my peoples! That's all I'm saying! And to re-emphasize my point...I'm trying to figure out how dude was dirt poor when his mother BOUGHT him studio time when he was 8, plus...she bought him all them records and what not. Something ain't adding up.

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Brierstan — Thu, 29 May 2008 13:21:04 GMT

It dont matter what his momma was up2, who paid the bills, where he lived, where he hustled, what suge said, what suge didnt say, what daz said etc.....

the guy can rap, great asset to the west simple....

The guy is where he wanna be and still in the rap game strong.
Thats all that matters realistically speaking he has maintained a stong and consistent level rap wise.

If your honest you all would have been in situations where your parents were not there or earning wnough to make needs pass by. I know I had it hard with 4 siblings and my father was never at home coz he was working. It may be a story that has been told a million times from nothing to something but the fact is its true and maybe that counts for something.

When people are rich we tell them all yall motheruckers got it easy, born with a silver spoon in your mouth and shit!! But when dudes be working hard, sleeping hard and then earning hard trynna provide the best for the family by doing what they do best we start fuckin cussing, this was one interview, he probably broke it down for an easy read, what im tryna say is why we always cuss, whether rich or poor we all equals, if he rappin for food on the tabel then big up to the guy, he doing wot hes good at. Respect!

Why do people rap.. coz they got a story to tell. why when 1 rapper tells his we just cuss him. If you dont like what you reading.. why read the shit.

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QCG — Thu, 29 May 2008 14:54:56 GMT

Yeah that nigga one of the best lyrically...Too bad the current climate in hip hop is focused on these lil kiddy ass rhymes and songs...If it wasnt for the tracks these days, I wouldnt be listenin to half these mfz....real interestin that he used to travel cross country gettin independent paper like that...I guarantee u that that shit aint happenin these days....Hell, big name artists barely goin gold now....He prolly aint gettin signed due to labels not really signin mfz no mo cause eerbody and they mama rappin now and got lil studios in they crib and shit....technology a mf....these A&R mfz lazy....they aint out here in the streetz, they on the web tryin to find talent and doin a piss poor job at that....Shiiiiiiiit, most of the hottest mfz in the streetz aint gon never be heard outside they city and him not gettin signed to a major just backs me up....If you aint already been established in the game, part of a crew that's already on, or got enough paper to get on, you aint gettin on...

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NewWest-310 — Thu, 29 May 2008 15:15:36 GMT

Pilly Da Kid said:
"How is this nigga relevent? Suge sprinkled sugar on this niggas asshole and fucked him repeatedly..."

WOW DOG! That is a lot of hate. He's relevent cuz dude just released a song a week for a whole year - and KILLED IT!! Where you been?

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SagNasty989 — Thu, 29 May 2008 15:27:05 GMT

@BRIERSTAN: OK... i hear what'chu sayin...yeah its peoples out here that at a young age gotta make ends meet to provide for their family...but man c'mon..lets not be naieve here...in Crooked I case (and again, I like how the brotha spit..his lyrics is fuckin sick...Ras Kaas with a pinch of Rakim is how I compare Crooked I) he talkin bout more than likely hustlin...o.k..lets say he had to slang to provide..now let's look at this from a ghetto/hood/inner city perspective if you from the same enviornment..now be real...coming up or even now, can you honestly tell me that the majority of cats you knew of or know of that's out here hustlin, getting stacks and so on, is doing it in order to keep the lights on and get moms out the hood?? NO!! mane bro I don't know bout you or how u come up but 99.99999% of what I was around and learned to do main purpose wasn't to help put groceries on the table and pay the phone bill..its sad but true, ..the thing was more of a learned behavior...sell yay=fast easy money=nice cars=nice gear=positive self esteem=groupie gullable women=addicted to the game becus the money was fast n easy..now at the same time, i'm not saying mom and pop dukes was in a good financial comfort zone becus they wasn't ..but mane the same mufuckas yellin that "i had to hustle to help my family maintain...etc"..was the same niggas that was out clubbin, smoking weed, totin pistols, probably doing drive bys, sexing many women, pretty much just living that thug life style..i know this!! now where is the fuckin honor in that shit in terms of helping provide for your family? shit, fuck that, where is the honor in selling dope and supporting the destruction of other poverty stricken family members that were addicted to this product? nigga that aint no fuckin honor to be going around pattin yaself on the back..i got uncles and great uncles and I know some strong black men that had 3 or 4 jobs even NOW, that are helping provide for their family. I respect that more than the "hustle to provide" story. keep it 100

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SagNasty989 — Thu, 29 May 2008 15:27:43 GMT

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BLUNTBLAZER — Thu, 29 May 2008 15:43:05 GMT

CROOKED IS A BEAST THEY KEEP PUSHIN HIM BACK BUT WHEN HE DROPS ITS GONNA BE BIG. WITH THE RIGHT TEAM HE COULD GO PLAT EASILY

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Styles — Thu, 29 May 2008 15:46:28 GMT

Crooked grew up in the 80's... back then you could buy an album for a few dollars. And his mom was also a singer, so she most likely had contacts and hook-ups to a studio. He only mentioned going to the studio once as a child, so it's not too far-fetched that a struggling family could provide a few of those things despite their low financial status.

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Tha1&Only — Thu, 29 May 2008 16:14:31 GMT

@SagNasty989

I hear what you're saying and I feel you on some of what you're saying, but I think you're missing the big picture. Life can be a bitch sometimes mayne. People can have paper one minute and not the next which could have been the case here. I doubt dude wants to say that he lived in a fuckin car. True, for some people selling drugs is a lifestyle, but for others it's just means to make ends meet. I got homeboys with jobs that hustle on the side. Them niggas don't want to have to resort to that or do that forever, but YES bills need to get paid hommie. Just be thankful you don't have to make that choice and have other options.

That said, Crooked is a beast on the microphone and honestly I can't name one artist that can go toe to toe with him east, west, or south. That's just bein real.

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richie sick — Thu, 29 May 2008 16:17:46 GMT

AT adopefemalemc said

you already know where im from, girl. YAY AREAAAA...like dat! so if you want, you can send me back home round your way, ya dig. and we can work out our differences in private. (ha ha! im just jawsin though!)

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Brierstan — Thu, 29 May 2008 17:03:56 GMT

SagNasty989 said:

First and formeost i aint black so dont call me a Nigga, i can only say what i feel, i cant picture in city life in america coz im from England UK, but i can relate to Crooked I and countless people irrelevant of colour. What you have to understand is that times have changed. Rap back in the days highlighted inner city injustices and it was a way to reflect on issues as a means of getting away with them with a smile on yer face. Rap changed and then so did lifestyles. Now rap glorifies gunz, drugs, bitches, hos' etc. And so people change, i got 5 people in the area that i live in selling crack, cocaine, heroin, budda, chronic you name it they got, why? not because they wanna put food on the table but because they wanna glorify the materialistic gains from dat shit. They want money cars, respect, they can be ugly motherfuckers but get the best bitches whateva, rap has glorified that so they wanna do it to. But in crooks case aint nobody gonna fend for him, aint nobody gonna give him a free meal, aint nobody gonna give him cover from the rain or a blanket for bed, but himself. If he didnt go through that shit he wont say so, but if he didnt go through that shit then he wouldnt say so otherwise.

No offence im Pakistani homes, but i hear parts of what you saying. In the end the fact is, he is one great rap artist!

Peace (Im pakistani by the Way)

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NewWest-310 — Thu, 29 May 2008 18:15:41 GMT

@Brierstan

You & SagNasty989 was having a nice discussion and then you went & fucked it up by sayin "I aint black, so dont call me Nigga." You dont have to be black to be called nigga. I've been called that many times and even though i wont say it, i wouldn't take offense to it; it has become a term of endearment.

@SagNasty989

We hear what you're saying. For the most part the dudes on the street that hustle dont give a fuck about family, bills, none of that. They just want Money, Hoes & Clothes. But were not having a general discussion about hustlers, this is strictly about Crooked I and in his case, he hustled to provide for his fam and make a better life for them. (According to the article)

Whichever way you wanna spin it, Crooked I came from Nothing and he's bout to be something. Cop that B.O.S.S. when it drops.

NEW WEST!!!

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Tha1&Only — Thu, 29 May 2008 18:38:56 GMT

@Brierstan

I would go in on you about that not being called a nigga "cuz you ain' black" comment, but you ain't from here so you probably ain't gone understand it anyway.

This is about Crooked I.

One thing your statement does do however is make me think about what the perception is of "our nigga" music around the world. Perhaps you shouldn't listen to it Brierstan if you don't understand it, which it sounds to me like you don't.

Guess Brierstan think we round here calling each other monkeys or something, but I digress....

This is about Crooked I like I said and that NIGGA spit FIRE!

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richie sick — Thu, 29 May 2008 18:49:34 GMT

AT NewWest-310 said

mane, let the pakastani homie speak his piece. he aint fuck shit up. if he aint black, and dont want to be called a nigga, i feel him. just cuz you aint black, but like it when our folks call you they nigga, dont mean other nonblacks have to like it too. some people, black and nonblack, take offense to the term.

and this whole argument is faulty reasoning. cuz dont none of us know what is was like to walk a mile in crooks shoes. dont nair one of yall know what crook did when he was growing up, unless you grew up with him or is part of his family. if so, speak on it now. if not, shut the fuck up.

oooo, see there. i had to pull an OG move on yall. OG in the sense of Original Game.

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K.r.u.n.k.y — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:28:00 GMT

top 10 doa without dropping an album... yet

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Nex Gin — Thu, 29 May 2008 19:51:29 GMT

@SagNasty989
Cosign that shit about unnecessary hustlin' my nig. I'm glad u said that shit cause I needed to hear it from somebody else. 99.9% of the niggaz I know that is hustlin' fall in that category. I got niggaz that's dead and locked up behind that shit and their families were wealthy by my standards ( niggaz out there fakin' to fit it, too lazy and pampered to get a real gig or followers ). I got other niggaz that came from my same environment and they're a mix of part-time and full-time hustlaz. I neva felt like I had to do that shit. I'd rather be poor than contribute to the destruction of my people and be what America wants.....a stereotypical statistic. I ain't no angel, but I neva sold death to my folkz. I can't speak on Crooked's situation, but I'm livin' proof that u don't have to take that route to get ahead......nor do you have to sell out to the establishment. Then these little stupid muphukaz grow up and realize how hard it is to take care of their families and be legitimate when nobody wants to hire an felon. Shit just amazes the fuck outta me. It's like nowadays hustlin' is a right of passage for these catz. Niggaz can drop that livin' poor excuse. There are plenty well to do examples that came from the same impoverished environment. I'm sure there are niggaz that fall into Crooked category, but it's probably alot more that fall into the other ( there is a fine line ). There are generally other options, but niggaz let they pride get in the way or they just aren't aware of the alternatives.

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Pilly Da Kid — Thu, 29 May 2008 20:09:57 GMT

@ New West:
If the nigga has released a song a week for a year, and is till relatively unknow then that simply strengthens my position. I have heard him featured on a song or two. Nothing special. See you West Coast niggaz put too much faith in the niggas that you think are next, and then they flop.
Examples:
Glasses Malone
Ras Kass
Mack 10 AKA Whack 10 (Horrible)
Spyder Loc
The list goes on!
In case you are wondering, Wayne is that nigga (lyrically).

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 29 May 2008 20:17:17 GMT

yo, lemme ask y'all somethin.

i from the east coast.

and this dude crooked i nice as shit. no matter where he from.

i'm talkin bout raw dog upper level rhymes.
but yo, do y'all think the west coast fronts on him because they ain't really feelin all that "complex rhyme" shit?

i just got put on to him a coupla months ago. but yo did he ever hafta fight through some "you sound like a east coast rapper" shit?

do y'all think he ont really get embraced because he ain't on some g-funk shit or whatever?

this is what i see.

like the alkaholiks. they master rhymers but i ont know how they get received out here (i'm in l.a. now).

i think now tho the tides are changin and the west coast is more receptive to dope rhymers. like murs.

but i wonder if when crooked i was first comin thru wit his grind if it was hard to position him cuz he don't have that g-funk, snoop or WC sound.

do y'all think the west coast was rejectin him?

the way the south ain't really blowin up z-rino.
because they don't represent the region's sound?

i would love to hear crooked i on some primo, pete rock and large professor beats with scratchin.

somebody put me on to his 10 rap commandments last week.

he spilled somethin crazy on the 10 crack commandments beat.

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Nex Gin — Thu, 29 May 2008 20:18:51 GMT

@Pilly Da Kid
I'm not from the West, but damn....it ain't like the East hasn't been tryin' to find a savior since the south stunk up the game. I agree with that list, except for Ras Kass. Crooked is a dope MC though. Wayne = Highly Overrated. I hope Crooked gets the shine he deserves.

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richie sick — Thu, 29 May 2008 21:24:02 GMT

@Pilly Da Kid said

how us west coast niggas put too much faith in who we think is next when you east coast niggas been begging for someone to bring back yalls shit for the longest?? we straight. we aint trippin on whos next. niggas gon always feel our music. we invented this gangsta shit. plus, everybody in the nation like to bump some cali hits. not the case in general for east coast music. yall aint got the mass appeal that guru rapped about anymore.

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NewWest-310 — Thu, 29 May 2008 21:37:29 GMT

@Richie Sick

I feel you. I probably should have let them two just have they discussion but that remark, for some reason, came off real wrong to me. Just an opinion (Tha1&Only feels me) But you right, a lot of people dont like the word - gotta respect that.

@PillyDaKid

"I have heard him featured on a song or two. Nothing special."
Nothing special??? Are you for real??? You must have heard some intro's or something. Maybe you should check out a full Crooked I song isntead of just a feature. I could give you ten tracks to download off the top of my head - just let me know i'll list'em for you. And I noticed you left The Game out of your examples. You can't deny him. I do agree w/ you on one point however - Whack 10. His lyrics are so garbage it's ridiculous. But, to each his own.

NEW WEST!!!

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TiKKet — Thu, 29 May 2008 22:18:05 GMT

@ Richie sick

Co-sign 100%. West Coast may not be poppin on that mainstream status like the South but we always gon be relevant in this rap shit.

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acedameter — Thu, 29 May 2008 22:21:49 GMT

my boy stay hot

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SagNasty989 — Thu, 29 May 2008 23:42:26 GMT

@NEW WEST 310 @The1&Only and Bierestien..first NEW WEST 310 thanks fa tellin Bierstien what I was thinkin bout in terms of "nigga"..obviously he's not from our enviornment and his perception of minorities using the term NIGGA instead of NIGGER is totally fucked up..so i'm not really gone touch on his response becus he lost me there..The1&Only: Trust me mane I feel what u sayin..in a sense I agree..but I argue that same argument thru and thru all my life in terms of making a sensible reason for us hustln..mane on my nation bra as shawt lo say "i dunn dunn it all". so I'm speaking from not only what I grown up to see from family, friends but my own experience..peep game, yeah we can come up from a fucked up enviornement I agree and the system can have it challenging for us, but it comes a point in time in which you gotta be like FUCK THIS I'M GONE DO SHIT THE RIGHT WAY...its easier said than done because from age 13-22 I wunt thinkin that...but its lil mufuckas I know of who moms n pops got good jobs and errthing but these ignorant mufuckas wanna get in the game just for the fuck of it..lil 16,15 year olds that I try ta talk sense into as well as the others without a stable home,.but the ones with stable homes just as hard headed and ignorant as eva..lot of these cats get out there and hustle cus they feel insecure and they wanna taste of the street fame..but we gotta quit making all these damn excuses..its easier to make and excuse rather than make effort..but shit it is what it is. I aint perfect, i'm still fuckin up here and there,but just understand its other options

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Yadadamean — Fri, 30 May 2008 01:58:46 GMT

Damn...Its hella West Coast niggaz in dis bitch(lol)! Dats wussup mayne, yadidimean! Crooked uh oh uh ohis da truth, fuck Snoop...hatin on da young thundacat.

Oh Yeah...Sac-Town B'YUTCH!!!

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HomeboyChops — Fri, 30 May 2008 02:31:58 GMT

Much love to Crooked I. Make teh album a banger and it'll sell. You can bring the west back.

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SagNasty989 — Fri, 30 May 2008 02:50:09 GMT

@BRIERSTAN:ALSO!!!!! if you carefully read what I wrote then you'll realize I wasn't talkin to you when I said NIGGA but to the dope dealin, thugged out, street fame "NIGGA" in general..so get'cha shit str8 when u come at me with some backwards shit..all is well

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Pilly Da Kid — Fri, 30 May 2008 04:26:17 GMT

@ New West: I left the Game OFF of the list on purpose. That list was of niggas that FAILED Cali.(READ). Secondly, I'm from Atlanta...
Niggas is always taking shots at the South, but we know what's in your deck/MP3.
Cali niggaz are sure to do two things: Rap about gangbangin' (whack), and imitate Tupac.

@Richie Sick: I could care less who invented " this gangsta shit". Down here it's trap music. Ya'll can talk about killing niggas all day, I'm not participating...

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deuce713 — Fri, 30 May 2008 09:20:15 GMT

the nigg crooked I iz hott!! if u ain't heard N.W.A the anthem, go find that shit!! I'm from the south and i still bump that shit everywhere i go!! they need to go ahead and put out a video for it before it gets too old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! make the video crooked!!!!

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NewWest-310 — Fri, 30 May 2008 15:50:37 GMT

@PillyDaKid
If you only talkin about people that failed in Cali than that list is gonna have to be way longer. The problem is you assumed that your list was accurate in showing who we expected to blow - you couldn't have been more wrong (I READ). Nobody was puttin the west on Ras Kass, G Malone, Mack-10 or Spider Loc's shoulders. And how many rappers tried to come out of Atlanta & failed? The fact you can list our "failed" rappers shows the strength on the west.

NEW WEST!!!

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enzo — Fri, 30 May 2008 16:12:45 GMT

Good Interview

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mcfaz — Fri, 30 May 2008 17:06:23 GMT

Pilly Da Kid said:
@ New West:
If the nigga has released a song a week for a year, and is till relatively unknow then that simply strengthens my position. I have heard him featured on a song or two. Nothing special. See you West Coast niggaz put too much faith in the niggas that you think are next, and then they flop.
Examples:
Glasses Malone
Ras Kass
Mack 10 AKA Whack 10 (Horrible)
Spyder Loc
The list goes on!
In case you are wondering, Wayne is that nigga (lyrically).

a dont know 1 single person that would say spider loc u could of said
clyde carson
ya boy
jay rock

ad look out for these dudes

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Tha1&Only — Fri, 30 May 2008 17:47:29 GMT

@Pilly Da Kid

I know you're not serious about Wayne being better than Crooked I lyrically. LYRICALLY he's shitting on Wayne. Wayne ain't sayin nothing on the mic anymore and it don't sound like he gives a shit either. LYRICALLY I don't see how anyone would think Wayne is better than Crooked, hype and attention yes, but not that real shit that niggas is lookin for nowadays.

Wayne is making microwave rap right now. The nigga even tell you it don't take him no time to do a song. In the booth one minute and out the next. Nigga I believe it! Hahaha! Shit sounds like hot boo boo. Some of these niggas need to quit thinkin they Hov and pick that pen and pad up again. I'm tired of hearing retarted raps. Maybe it's just me. I'm from the west coast so I could be a lil biased.

@SagNasty989

Perception is reality to the perciever. If that's what you see and what you've been through then that is what it is. I ain't gone defend that lifestyle because wrong is wrong, but life ain't always just black and white. Niggas have grey moments in life too...LOL! Don't make it right, it just makes it life and in order to get right you have to have been wrong at some point to be corrected. Life experiance. That said, I don't know where anybody is on they journey to correction in life. I just stay in my own lane and concetrate on the shit I need to fix in my own life.

All that to say Crooked I or any MC for that matter, right or wrong has the right to talk about their experiances. If we think the MC is worth supporting we'll do that, if not, then we won't. That's what all this interview shit is for. To get the artist exposure; and from what I've heard form Crooked I the last year compared to a lot of this other shit I've heard from east,south, or west...This nigga's ready for the PRIME TIME. Cut the check already.

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richie sick — Fri, 30 May 2008 19:43:32 GMT

@Pilly Da Kid said

first off, i got nothin but love for the south. nothin but family and friends down there. and my favorite group of all-time is ugk. (RIP C)

whats your definition of trap muzik? to me, it has killin and dope dealin in it, which is an offshoot of gangsta music.

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Pilly Da Kid — Fri, 30 May 2008 22:35:35 GMT

@ New West: Nobody said that my list complete. (Don't confuse inaccurate with incomplete. The hype came from all directions, including allhiphop.com, XXL, and LA niggas themselves. Everybody on the list was amped up to be next nigga to hold Cali down. Right now, Spider Loc, Crooked I, and that Mitchy Slick nigga are on deck. Game is the only nigga doing anything in Cali. (And as for the shot you took at Atlanta, I laughed. Atlanta got a nigga coming out every 30 seconds. Some niggas are whack, some are not. This conversation is about Cali niggas right now, not Atlanta niggas, so stick with the subject. Like I said we all know who got it. Hip-hop ain't dead, it lives in the South!)

@ Richie Sick: (RIP PIMP C) We truly lost one of the truest Southern soldiers right there. Trap muzik, which we were refer to as drug dealer music down here is damn near equally bad. But no matter what, I am not co-signing music that has the same murder-a-nigga-message every fucking song. Cali niggas also have to stop imitating Pac. Real talk, Southern niggas do it to.
@ Tha1&only: Think what you want about Wayne. He's the hottest nigga period. His record is poised to serious NUMBERS which speaks for itself in this day and age of downloaded music and file sharing. As far as his "microwave style of writing lyrics", you would agree that some niggas are truly talented in their art right? Creative processes among niggas will vary greatly. I could give a fuck less about the process, it's the finished product that I am concerned with. If you dissing Little Wayne, that's cool with me. I don't get paid off of Wayne, but right now, you are dissing half of the niggas that know Wayne got it; which would be at LEAST half of all hip-hop listeners.

@ All you niggas. Here's a list of Southern niggas that I fuck with. (ALIVE) No particular order.
Wayne
TI
Ross
Dre 3000
Juvenile

Shout out to Gucci Mane, the trap muzik king!
Shout out to Pastor Troy for keeping it OFF the radio!
We need the Pre-Ying Yang Twin/Usher LITTLE JOHN back!

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Kalibur1200 — Fri, 30 May 2008 22:41:23 GMT

Crooked I Is A Beast....Anxious To See What This Dude Is Gonna Do. Hurry Up And Drop A Gotdamn Album.

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NewWest-310 — Fri, 30 May 2008 23:34:06 GMT

Damn Pilly! Why you so salty? Takin shit personal. I didn't take a shot at Atlanta. And if the discussion is about the west why you keep mentioning the south?? Suspect.

And who the fuck told you Mitchy Slick is next? Super Suspect.

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richie sick — Sat, 31 May 2008 00:08:38 GMT

@Pilly Da Kid said

gotta disagree with you homie. lil wayne aint much to me. and i surely aint with no nigga kissing other men on the lips. and i think you overexaggerating talking bout at LEAST half of all hip-hoppers think wayne got it. where you get that from?

far as your list, only one i'm really, really feelin is juvie.

and what's up with you spellng lil jon "LITTLE JOHN". gotta agree with new west 310. all of a sudden, you soundin real suspect now.

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Pilly Da Kid — Sat, 31 May 2008 02:13:52 GMT

I'll tell you niggas what. Take a poll. You'll see Wayne got it...
And by the way, suspect? What you niggas, the law?

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Pilly Da Kid — Sat, 31 May 2008 02:15:40 GMT

By the way, that LIL' shit is corny to me. I know how to spell...

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richie sick — Sat, 31 May 2008 13:34:05 GMT

@Pilly Da Kid said

YOU take a poll. fuck i need to work to prove your bullshit theory for?

and if you not co-signing violent music, why you got a image of a pill on your id? unless you a pharmacist, you glorifying the same drug trade you claim to oppose musically.

and the last point i need to strike you on is, "lil'" is corny to you, and you know how to spell, yet your name is "da kid"??

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