Elzhi: New Beginnings

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Topchoice_1 — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:11:40 GMT

He said "Lyrics have been replaced with swagger" ....Co muthafucking Sign from me........

I wish these new schools cats would just let their swag speak for them, instead of telling me a million times that they got swag....

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DJ TEKNISION — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:18:33 GMT

HE IS SO RIGHT ABOUT THE FEEL OF MUSIC. LYRICS HAVE BEEN REPLACED WITH SWAGGER. I WISH THE WORD SWAGGER WOULD GO AWAY IT IS THE MOST OVERUSE WORD TODAY. I DON'T NEED ANYONE TELLING ME THEY HAVE SWAGGER, SHOW ME WITH YOUR LYRICS.

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Brassbeats — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:19:50 GMT

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obaba — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:23:15 GMT

He is a member of a dating club
http://www.casualmixed.com . Seems he wants to look for a girl..

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Huey vs Riley — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:23:50 GMT

I'm getting REAL tired of this addiction to hyperbole all of these AHH writers seem to have. "Dilla was also a phenomenal lyricist" GTFOH, dilla was a dope-ass producer who could rap a little bit

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INSURGENT187 — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:35:18 GMT

ode to da fallen mceez...my man elzhi is on fire...yo deez bubblegum wappers(wakrappers) of 2day need to sharpen their skills on the mic...showboatin n bragadacio rappin is dead...the days of the mcee iz bak...big upz!!!!!!

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odeisel — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:35:24 GMT

I don't know about all that phenomenal lyricist stuff, but i had a couple of those early slum village joints. they were cool. not mind numbing but cool

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Topchoice_1 — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:36:32 GMT

@ DJ Teknision .....I agree with you...although, while I'm tired of that swagger style more than a mug....I hesitate to tell them cats to stop...cuz if we keep it real, all of the legends(Rakim, Slick Rick, Ice Cube, Nas, Jay-Z, etc) forever told you how fresh they were, how real they kept it, how gangsta they were, etc...but at least they showed that flava(old school word for swagger) in a way where they "were" it and not trying to convince you that they "were" it....

http://www.SouthernRapNews.com

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My Black Nation — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 12:43:01 GMT

“Cats like me, like Royce Da 5’9” or like Guilty Simpson… if you put us back in the early 90’s, I feel like we would be looked at as extremely legendary. But now, there is a different feel to music. Music is more simplistic now. Lyrics have been replaced with swagger.” –Elzhi

Yeah homie but it's not the 90's, U gotta put it down now while u got the chance homie. That's not an excuse! but He nice on the mic though

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forwords — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:09:38 GMT

is it just in my head if i unzip and pull it out am i gon piss in the bed? cover what the something ripped the back of my collar and snatched me out of one dream and into another

yo that line is soooooo heavy

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productofme.com — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:52:03 GMT

odiesel - stop the hate. they just paying respect where its due. dilla was the best mc out of the three and his delivery and charisma on only made his production stand out even more.

now i would definitely say that elzhi is a phenomenal mc and the preface is a crazy lyrical piece of artwork. all yall ahh heads need to cop that. black milk does justice on the boards and elzhi comes with concepts and battle raps galore. that guessing game track is probably the most creative track i've heard all year.

props to elzhi and the villa. would love to see baatin back in the mix with them pulling some unrealeased dilla beats out from under their sleeves.

"my shoe game's as crazy as the iron sheik's"

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slimhermano — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:41:03 GMT

“Cats like me, like Royce Da 5’9” or like Guilty Simpson… if you put us back in the early 90’s, I feel like we would be looked at as extremely legendary. But now, there is a different feel to music. Music is more simplistic now. Lyrics have been replaced with swagger.” –Elzhi
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yeah sad but true....

Elzhi is a beast on the mic, very underrated. Check out the track from Little Brother "Hiding Place" he was featured on. Dude ripped it.

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Mafamadix — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:43:29 GMT

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Mafamadix — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:43:41 GMT

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ForeverRepresentIt — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:35:25 GMT

SV's Fantastic Vol. 2 might is probably one of my top 10 favorite rap albums. The Preface is tight, can't wait for that new Black Milk album to drop in a couple of weeks.

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BlackSean — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:44:00 GMT

Hex Murda said it best.....

"Elzhi is a beast. Nobody want it w/Elzhi" CalTroit Intro

True confession, I was skeptical on the "Trinity" cd when El joined SlumVillage & Dilla departed... even tho I remember the HipHop Shop days, Dilla was a urban legend THEN & my thought then was he was in to replace JayDee.

Nope, time passed/truth revealed & dude is one of Detroit's elite. IMO, "The Preface" lyrically, is borderline masterpiece

*RIP Dilla, Big Proof, Wipeout, Blade Icewood

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QBoogieSSP — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:30:32 GMT

Elzhi, we got some beats for you homie... check us out at: http://www.myspace.com/sspsoundz

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absurdproductions — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:35:20 GMT

this swag nonsense is another teenybopper trend, with the sounds available now and the technology the genre is supposed to advance from its humble beginnings, nowadays the MC is letting the track do the talking for him and rhyming simple ass words, i blame the audience for ignoring lyricism and substituting dope with wack, there are still artists getting down on the lyrical side like elzhi and guilty simpson, chicago cats like 21st century hiphop, juice, sarcastik, flatline vendetta, bishop dash, ill eagl, etc. will they ever get their due?? the underground is the future for anybody who wants to hear real wordplay, other than that tune in to corporate radio and get on a shortbus........

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Vintaje — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:37:43 GMT

Well, Elzhi is a monster but this album is redundant and that is putting it lightly. It suffers in the fact that the production is lackluster and repetitive. Black Milk is a good beatmaker in terms of taking an old record, chopping, and creating (the gift/curse of that Dillaesque technique he uses to death), but his creativity is essentially null and void beyond that. In other words, people like Elzhi, Guilty Simpson, and others around that clique will never shine like they should because their concept is sort of like how No Limit Records and Beats by the Pound was, predictable.

In order to understand where I am coming from, I've been listening to Black Milk over the course of the past 6 to 7 years and that is what I am basing my arguments on; the fact that he hasn't evolved into a Just Blaze/Timbo type producer. I think he has the potential but he has to get out of that box for real. Rappers think like rappers and beatmakers think like beatmakers. Rappers only care about spittin' on something and do not care about the development of beatmakers. A beatmaker cannot grow with strictly rappers around him hounding for beats.

Hopefully, they will all realize that they can all benefit and grow if the proper amount of space is given; while maintaining their relationship. Otherwise, we will keep having these blogs talking about who is dope and asking why he/she hasn't blown up yet. I've had the chance to see them live at Alvin's and their stage presence is good so the next thing for them is stepping out towards working with different beatmakers/producers.

I am from Detroit and I support every artists, but from my viewpoint they seem to lack creativity and most reduce themselves to nothing more but mere copycats of current industry trends.

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junclassic — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:02:20 GMT

Elzhi is nasty! So many punchlines and his flow borders on perfection... like he said, he figured out the patterns...

Love the fact that he gets deep conceptually too... "What I Write" is crazy!

AND he hits cats back on Myspace! Don't get much realer than that...

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goldenc82 — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:22:35 GMT

I got to say Elzhi is one of the best and most underrated in hip hop right now. The preface was sick, and if he keeps up what he's doing there's no drop off anytime soon. Honestly I wish more rappers like him and royce would do collabs together. Bring back old cipher tracks where dudes just go in rip it and pass it. Royal Flush was an alright track from bar exam 2. It would have been nice if elzhi and canibus had a little bit better verses though.(only cause I know they're capable of mind blowing stuff). Still its cool to hear a group of emcees rip a beat together. New four horseman anyone? haha

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BarrowJ06 — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 19:58:16 GMT

Listen to "Hiding Places" from Little Brother's The Minstrel Show. He had Phonte sweatin! LOL

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HipHop_StateOfMind — Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:26:29 GMT

My Black Nation said:
“Cats like me, like Royce Da 5’9” or like Guilty Simpson… if you put us back in the early 90’s, I feel like we would be looked at as extremely legendary. But now, there is a different feel to music. Music is more simplistic now. Lyrics have been replaced with swagger.” –Elzhi

Yeah homie but it's not the 90's, U gotta put it down now while u got the chance homie. That's not an excuse! but He nice on the mic though

@My Black Nation
He wasn't using it as a excuse dude just sayin' the game is different now...Any nigga wit enough swagger can move units nowadays regardless of lyrical skills (look at Plies)...El's cut from the cloth of real MCs that were doin' it in the early 90's so he's at a disadvantage in 2day's industry bc of that...Like The Game said, he don't belong in this era...That's not his fault and he definitely wasn't makin' excuses when he made that statement...Just keepin' it real!!!

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MaryJanesHusband — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 09:15:09 GMT

Both of them joints is nice...I liked the first one the best.

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loch121 — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:48:38 GMT

DETROIT, WHAT UP DOE.It's rare you have a group change where the new dude is really dope.Slum Village pulled it off.dude is real dope.and as far as that 90's statement.@BLACK NATION.As a musician you do kinda gotta roll with the flow to maintain.when the west was poppin,rappers needed something that could mesh with that to stay relevant,but I refuse to believe that being lyrical and a dope m.c. is out off style.we need balance in hip hop and there is none now.back in the day you had groups like Tribe called Quest and NWA and hammer.They all could coexist.Now if you got something a little complex your punished for being a great writer.I just think their is a conspiracy to dumb us as blacks down and hip hop music.If you really spit now, your wack and wack niggas are dope if they just have personality.How can concise thoughts and originality go out of style?At the end of the day the folks in the industry love money,not music.everybody wants a quick buck and if they feel it will actually take work,they won't fuck with it.They want quick flips and first week sales and you need songs for 13 year old girls to do that and they don't know or care about the rich history of hip hop.I just feel,rapping,which is what rappers do should be important to a rappers career.rappin good used to be the corner stone of hip hop,now it's a curse.Even if me or any other lyricist dumbed down.It still wouldn't be stupid enough to appeal to the mainstream.cuz,intelligence shines thru and it would sound fake.not to say a lyricist can't make a hit,but it's rare these days.Check me out MYSPACE.COM/LOCH AND YOUTUBE.COM/LOCH121.GOT 2 VIDEOS OUT HUSTLA'S PRAYER AND LUMBER UP.

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Sinistah aka Sin Piffcaso — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:18:36 GMT

shits fire, i had my hands on this for about 2 or so months, i always been a fan of Detroit Music for a long while of course Dilla spans back to my childhood on the old Tribe Records and Pharcyde and etc.... but dudes like D.Porter, Black Milk, House Shoes, PPP, Taraach, and them dudes hold shit down production-wise, i like the MC's like Guilty Simpson, Trick Trick, Danny Brown, Slum, Em, D-12, Obie, Invincible, damn too many to name, but yo the album is tough, cop dat!

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Sketch Po — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:34:52 GMT

The whole album is crazy. Elzhi is the sickest in the D...Better than Royce and Em. I said it!

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Ceccotti — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:45:34 GMT

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Katalyst — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:26:19 GMT

I was checkin El's Joint out called "Brag Swag" and I think off this joint alone im gone Kopp The Preface!
This Kidd is the most underated right now but I think he can murder all the so called "best rappers alive" today.

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beenz412 — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:07:56 GMT

Elzhi said he "cracked the code" when it came to his lyrics...you can telll...listen to "audio cinematic"...

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Fulano — Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:34:39 GMT

Dude was right on the money... Lyric have been replaced with $5000 jeans ,Maybacks, and Gucci shades.

Hiphop has always been about stuntin but now they stuntin with wack hooks, wack ass fucin lyrics, and beats by that idiot Nitti.

Why is Nitti even out when there's talant like Havoc, Alchemist , Premo on the shelf? That guy SUCKS... im just being real cause on the flip side you got producers like Kanye and Young Guru keepin it 100. F Nitti and anyone else who sucks like him

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Redd-i — Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:15:22 GMT

Elzhi is cool. The man got lyric, and a solid delivery. I fucks wit that.

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GabIsHipHop — Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:13:52 GMT

Elzhi is doing it. He is right about lyrics being replaced by swagger and a host of other things but I think there is still a place for artist like him in the game just maybe not on all the mainstream tv stations but then again artist like the cool kids aren't really like the mainstream either but they are starting to pop up on mtv etc.

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