Sippin' Syrup: Killing Us Softly 
Published Wednesday, April 02, 2008 2:00 PM
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    By Dr. Rani Whitfield, Tha Hip Hop Doc



    “It taste great doc! I don’t even drink on that Henn anymore. You should try it; taste better than any margarita I’ve ever had.  Just give me a cream soda or some fruit punch, mix it with that purple, and it’s on!” 

     

    This was only part of a conversation I had with a patient who tried in every way possible to get me to write him a prescription for a pint of “lean,” “purple” or what we call in the medical community, Promethazine with codeine (PC). 

     

    The street value for a pint of undiluted PC is $500, but more often this pint is “cut” with Karo syrup by the local street pharmacists to “stretch it out.”  A gallon of PC “stretched out” can generate well over $3600 dollars on the streets.

     

    In addition to being lucrative for the street pharmacists, the presence of “dat syrup,” “sizzurp” or “lean” was made popular by DJ Screw and the Houston Hip-Hop culture, and it became a common social drink among young African-Americans all across the nation. 

     

    References to PC are common in songs like Three 6 Mafia’s “Sippin’ on Some Sizzurp” and Lil Wayne’s freestyle rap “Live From 504.” As popularity increases for PC, the question arises, Why are people obsessed with PC? Answer: It’s the codeine!

     

    Codeine, a commonly prescribed and effective drug used to treat pain, diarrhea and to suppress cough, is the most widely used and naturally occurring opiod or narcotic (medicines that produce pleasure and calmness) in the world.  It comes from the opium poppy, and is related to morphine and heroin. 

     

    Codeine is also the base material for the production of two other narcotics, hydrocodone and dihydrocodeine.  Compared to morphine, codeine produces less pain relief, and is usually taken by mouth in liquid or tablet form. It is often combined with aspirin or acetaminophen (Tylenol) to enhance its affects on the body. Promethazine, which does not contain codeine, is the generic name for a sedating, anti-nausea chemical this is often combined with codeine in cough syrups. 

     

    The combination of promethazine with codeine to control cough and cold symptoms is very effective when used properly, but can become addictive and dangerous when misused because of the codeine.  Most Americans take their medications responsibly, however in 2003, approximately 15 million people in the United States reported using a prescription drug for non-medical reasons at least once during the year. 

     

    Prescription drug abuse has become a problem for several reasons. Use of prescription drugs is viewed as safe because a doctor prescribed it; it is readily accessible in home medicine cabinets; and medicines that normally need a prescription can now be purchased online without seeing a doctor, thus lessening the chance that one could get caught by the authorities for purchasing and using an illegal substance. 

     

    The three types of drugs commonly misused or abused in this country include:

     

    • opioids - which are prescribed for pain relief
    • central nervous system depressants - often referred to as sedatives or tranquilizers (i.e. barbiturates and benzodiazepines) which are prescribed for anxiety or sleep problems
    • stimulants - which are prescribed for attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD), the sleep disorder narcolepsy, or obesity

     

    Symptoms of overdose on opiods like codeine include constipation, slow breathing, seizures, dizziness, weakness, confusion, tiredness, cold and clammy skin, small or constricted pupils, loss of consciousness, coma and possibly death! 

     

    To experience the effects of codeine, the human body must convert the drug to morphine. The effects of codeine start 10 to 30 minutes after ingestion, peak within one to two hours, and may last four to six hours, depending on how much is taken. Within two to three weeks of repetitive use, a physical and psychological addiction may develop. Misuse will lead to an apathetic, dulling-type effect, a lack of co-ordination and dulled responses.

     

    The effects of the misuse of prescription drugs are not limited to just those that are of middle or lower income, there are popular artists that have also suffered the repercussions of misusing these drugs. 

     

    The cause of death for Robert Earl Davis, Jr., also known as DJ Screw, at age 30 was attributed to the result of combining PC with marijuana and alcohol. 

     

    Unfounded rumors have circulated about Pimp C’s death being related to an overdose of PC, however the autopsy results show that the PC only contributed to his death. Pimp C had a condition called sleep apnea (which we will talk about in my next article) that did not mix well with the cough syrup. Together, they caused his death. 

     

    The bottom line is that, recreational use of PC is dangerous, addictive, potentially life threatening, and illegal to use without a prescription. Be careful what you sip…it could be your last. 

     


     Dr. Rani Whitfield is a board certified Family Practice and Sports Medicine Physician living in Baton Rouge, LA.  He is affectionately known as “Tha Hip Hop Doc”as he uses music and medicine to educate young people on health issues. For more information, go to www.h2doc.com or www.blackaids.org. You can email Tha Hip Hop Doc at DrRani@h2doc.com

     


    Comments

     

    Castor G. Troy said:

    Thats some dumb shit to even want to mess with.........
    April 2, 2008 2:08 PM
     

    eatoratedsr said:

    All I have to say is Amen!!  Thanks syrup is killing so many and people don't seem to care or think there invincble.  Maya change come
    April 2, 2008 2:08 PM
     

    nercity07 said:

    Can't believe no one has commented on this yet. I knew people were doing this but not to this extent. I live in Cally and I've heard a few ppl doing it, but not as bad as in the south.

    It's crazy that people will find anything to get high. And what makes it worse is that their favorite rapper pushes/promotes it.
    April 2, 2008 2:12 PM
     

    Seanr1 said:

    yeah sizzurrpppp up in here

    weezy F baby
    April 2, 2008 2:18 PM
     

    Don Won said:

    syrup is still a big problem in h-town.  my boy's still sip it.  i don't think it's bad as long as you don't do the shit everyday, all day. it has taken away a lot of talent from Houston.  
    April 2, 2008 2:26 PM
     

    odeisel said:

    it was very peculiar to see so many people with codeine t shirts in lieu of Screw's death and pimp c's tragic loss recently not directly related but associated with cough medicine.
    April 2, 2008 2:28 PM
     

    K.A.K. DEUCE said:

    Don't get me wrong, I like a lil dank-n-drank here and there but what's wrong with being sober??? People who allow themselves to be addicted to anything other than living are weak-minded.
    April 2, 2008 2:31 PM
     

    Esq. of LastLeveL said:

    Man...no words for this one. Except, I don't sip it, and never will. Just give me a nice cold Corona and a cup of that Absolut and I'm good.
    April 2, 2008 2:34 PM
     

    INANYSTATEOFMIND said:

    R.I.P Pimp C.

    shit is not a game....leave that shit alone.
    April 2, 2008 2:35 PM
     

    ImJamminScrew said:

    Niggas been sippin drank since 94-95....its hard to just stop that shit........Growing up in Houston, sippin syrup, and jammin screw is all we grew up on
    April 2, 2008 2:42 PM
     

    Beat Renegades said:

    I don't understand why people take this crap! Sad.
    April 2, 2008 2:44 PM
     

    illseed said:

    dont forget big moe! sorry to see that ppl like lil wayne are still sippin this stuff when clearly it kills.
    lemonade was a popular drink and it still is...i will that.
    April 2, 2008 2:51 PM
     

    EMONEY617 said:

    it prolly aint that bad in moderation...

    weezys crazy fuckin wit that shit everyday though
    April 2, 2008 3:04 PM
     

    AJRICH said:

    i sip that powerade lean ya dig or lemonade mixed with water lol, real talk take care of yo body ,RIP to everybody who died on syrup
    April 2, 2008 3:13 PM
     

    PEACETOTHEREAL1 said:

    Wayne is going to die from that shit...and when he does people will take a bigger look at it.
    April 2, 2008 3:33 PM
     

    diskathere said:

    i aint even gon lie..only reason i sip on it is to put me to sleep...case in point last nite...
    April 2, 2008 3:46 PM
     

    D.I.C.E. said:

    dumb niggas do dumb nigga shit. Damn whatever happen to blazin' a blunt?

    @PEACETOTHEREAL1
    if wayne did die i would feel no sympathy bcuz that nigga kno what could happen and in that one that one interview he said if it kill him then oh well, so..OH WELL.
    April 2, 2008 3:59 PM
     

    SaluateYaGeneral said:

    WHERE THAT WEED AT?!?!?!?!?!?!
    April 2, 2008 4:06 PM
     

    IndPlsFlyBoi said:

    I know nigga's Up here sippin that shit hard like its Kool-Aid..im super coo on killing myself!..Yall need to get yall favorite rapper off that shit!
    April 2, 2008 4:08 PM
     

    v4vendetta said:

    Congratulations losers! You've come a long way from sniffin Elmer's glue!!

    Now have you all heard of the artist Dre is about to choke for saying he is getting signed to him???? Link coming soon..
    April 2, 2008 4:09 PM
     

    the nukka you love said:

    rest in peace dj screw.
    April 2, 2008 4:12 PM
     

    v4vendetta said:

    And Caro Syrup? Give me a break!!! Ballers s'posed to cut it with the best...

    Organic Maple Syrup!!!(Grade A Medium)

    *does JJ Evans impression*

    "What can I say"?
    April 2, 2008 4:18 PM
     

    Cizaman said:

    My Lean Cup......
    April 2, 2008 4:21 PM
     

    c_a_k said:

    there's some crazy ass drugs out there but "Syrup". i pray that people see the light of day and realize that some real playas are dying from this sh**. RIP Pimp C & Big Moe an DJ Screw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    April 2, 2008 4:46 PM
     

    Rozco said:

    man people are stupid for doing this shit too much, but i've made it before with just over the counter cough medicine with DXM in and not tylenol, it's a poor mans sizzurp i guess, i liked it and i could see where people could get addicted, but c'mon people....use your heads a little bit. if you have the self control, almost anything is okay in moderation. i know i don't, that why i only tried coke once, ecstasy, acid, and shrooms a couple times but that was almost three years ago and i've held good on my promise to myself to never do it again, and i've been seriously considering quitting smoking weed lately. people just have to take a good look at themselves and realize what the fuck is goin on in their lives.
    April 2, 2008 4:45 PM
     

    Dove said:

    talk about timing... this came in the email today:

    ***********
    NEW YORK, April 2, 2008 – Veteran rap star Dwayne “Lil Wayne” Carter is featured on the May 2008 cover of VIBE Magazine – on newsstands April 2nd.  This month’s cover story reveals details of the rapper’s controversial lifestyle.  From his obsession with making music, to his admitted addiction to prescription cough syrup, and his recent run-ins with the law, VIBE breaks down the complex personality of the Hip Hop superstar.

    *************

    He's admittedly addicted? Does he know he can die from it? Does anyone around him care to advise him to get help? Someone call Dr. Drew for the next round of Celebrity Rehab or something... damn.
    April 2, 2008 4:54 PM
     

    StopFrontin said:

    First of all, Lil Wayne is corny.

    Secondly, I'm from Brooklyn and have yet to see that around here, but it's sounds real fucked up.


    April 2, 2008 4:56 PM
     

    Gentlemen Thug said:

    Half these niggas thats sippin lean and not from Houston are only doing it because their favorite rapper was or is doing it. Fucking Followers. Sometimes Hip-Hop is like a fucking Newport. Taste good to some, Looks good to most, but in the end it's gonna kill ya ass. WAKE THE FUCK UP!!!!
    April 2, 2008 5:12 PM
     

    StopFrontin said:

    Did I mention how corny Lil Wayne is?
    April 2, 2008 5:21 PM
     

    Tommy K. said:

    I'm a pill poppin animal, syrup sippin... lol wayne better stop that shit.
    April 2, 2008 5:45 PM
     

    raynestizzy said:

    What kind of idiot wants to drink cough syrup to get high? Im sorry but that shit is plan stupid. Smoke weed (im not endorsing this to kids) if you wanna get baked. Do not sniff coke, smoke crack, use heroin, morphine, meth, opium or any other absolutely fucking retard drug on this planet. And kids stop listening to this asshole rappers who endorse this typa dumb shit. Cool is a choice. Anyone can make something cool. Find the cool in you.
    April 2, 2008 5:54 PM
     

    Tha Big said:

    smokin' dank & tryna stack a bank
    made up mind till I die I'm sippin' drank
    stayn' on my toes, still got my 4's
    pimpn' yella hoes the wide benz sold
    keep tha drank cold
                              Lil Dex 96'
    April 2, 2008 6:00 PM
     

    Die2Live said:

    Houston is not the only cities with that habbit. I got an older cousin who been doing that shit for years up in Philly. But at the end of the day I don't care really do what you like.
    April 2, 2008 6:03 PM
     

    midstate-sport said:

    man! i ant drinking aything i cant spell

     www.midstate-sport.com
    April 2, 2008 6:04 PM
     

    DATBOYROO said:

    R.I.P SCREW

    (361) VICTORIA TX

    WE MISS YOU.....

    April 2, 2008 6:21 PM
     

    disconnexions said:

    I don't know what's worse.. niccas drinkin cough syrup to get high or cats actually making money selling it on the street.

    What's next? Shooting up Listerine? Snorting Flintstones vitamins? Smoking toothpaste?

    Get your stupid azzes out the bathroom cabinet and read a goddam book!!!
    April 2, 2008 6:29 PM
     

    Krazy Lil 7 said:

    man dat syrup shit is killin niggas left n right. n this nigga wayne keep rappin bout the shit like its ok to do.all yall out there stuck on lil waynes dick. n half of yall that is r fuckin dope fiends. wayne im sorry but u's a str8 up fiend. i love his music well some of it atleast all his shit up to the carter !. the carter 2 sucked. no mannie fresh = shitty album. but for real tho all waynes new shit aint nutin but talkin bout gettin blowed. theres more to life. yea ive tried sum of dat lean n i no y its so addictin. shit im from the D, yes 313 Detroit baby yall better recognize, n that shit is hard to get ur hands on round here. but kids out here wanna be just like wayne u no so they get all fucked up on w/e. heroin is killin every1 out here almost half my graduatin class is either hooked, dead or in jail bcuz of heroin n its sad yo. i hope sum1 who reads this feels me u no im only 18 n ive done had my fair share of shit u feel me. used to be a fiend myself but ive been clean off heroin for almost 2 years. if u got a strong mind n have will power u can do n e thing u want u feel me holla back






    TEAM T.I.M.     mixtape droppin real sooon look out for us
    April 2, 2008 6:36 PM
     

    Boss Up said:

    smh
    April 2, 2008 6:40 PM
     

    Code of Iron said:

    another dumb nigga drug. glamorised and glorified throughout the hoods and ghettos of amerikkka, right along with crack, heroin and pills. niggaz always finding a way to escape reality.  wisen up, dummies
    April 2, 2008 6:41 PM
     

    DATBOYROO said:

    R.I.P SCREW

    (361) VICTORIA TX

    WE MISS YOU.....

    April 2, 2008 6:44 PM
     

    souf_side_fa_life said:

    shiiiid i PO'd up a 4 as soon as i finished reading this article
    April 2, 2008 6:53 PM
     

    alisha said:

    not sure on how many people in the BAY are off this, but i haven't heard too much about it. i found a bottle of this in my car and threw it out. who ever got in my car with it..sho left it and i knew nothing about it even being in there...so i threw it out and went off on the people who were in my car the night before. all drugs are wack..i don't do 'em, never have tried ANY. PEOPLE NEED TO LEAVE THIS SHIT ALONE, this syrup stuff kills. it's sad b/c people don't get how many lives it has already affected and who has already died from it.
    April 2, 2008 7:22 PM
     

    drewhood said:

    just heard an interview with wayne, he said he wasnt gonna slow down with the syrup, he said if he die it doesnt matter as long as they honor him like they did pimp, thats some dumb shit.
    wouldnt be surprised if he kills himself within the next couple of years with this shit
    April 2, 2008 7:24 PM
     

    Flintstone Kid said:

    I just popped 5 halls mentho-lyptus back to back......

    Im starting to feel the effects, no cough!

    For real though, stop doing prescription drugs...period.

    It's killed a lot more than we even know, and we don't need to lose more soldiers in the struggle.

    Blaze some kush or something....thats more than enuff for me!

    One!
    April 2, 2008 7:27 PM
     

    atleastsiderydah said:

    fuck that we all gone die why not die high?...i smoke weed and i do sizzurp and if i die then shit it is what it is..most of yall who say stop doin it aint neva done it in tha first place so what tha hell do yall know?...everybody who died from tha shit did more than just sip can yall not read!!!!
    April 2, 2008 7:47 PM
     

    mzweezyfbaby said:

    everbody talkin bout wayne this...wayne that... that nigga know what's goin on! DAMN he is grown!

    So po' up! And "lean" on me!

    All ya'll niggaz is grown so...whatever somebody else endorses and condones doesn't mean you should follow..niggaz been rappin bout they lifestyle and niggaz been lying about the same thang..and now it's just comin to life...NAW...the media has taken control over it and THE SOUTH IS THE REASON FOR EVERYTHING NOW...FROM HIP HOP TO NIGGAZ OVA DOSIN' ON MEDS TO WHITE KIDS SHOOTIN UP...MAN PLZ...

    Im not sayin what wayne talks about is right and im not gonna say he's wrong either, because who are we to judge...RAISE YOUR KIDS AND DON'T LET THE TV DO IT! THEY ARE THE FUTURE!


    RIP SCREW
    RIP PIMP C
    RIP BIG MOE

    ~LIVE YA OWN LIFE!~
    April 2, 2008 7:59 PM
     

    justin.thibodeaux said:

    R.I.P. to Pimp C and Screw and all the people that have been lost to lean.

    I'm from Port Arthur, TX (409 all day baby) but I don't mess with the drank because I respect my body too much.  Folks need to get it together and realize that their bodies are temples.  To tell the truth, I pretty much abstain from all substances that alter your reality (i.e. alcohol, marijuana, coke,etc.).  I don't knock anybody who does drink or/and smoke but as long as they aren't advertising it to the youth man.  As long as you can keep a man dazed and confused you have the power; you don't think these cats out here selling drugs don't know that?  We losing too many people to poison like syrup and it's because people tell them that it makes them feel good.  One love and deuces
    April 2, 2008 8:13 PM
     

    bigikeva said:

    niggaz been on that lean in the 804 since 95
    April 2, 2008 9:14 PM
     

    MrBlackMagicHimself said:

    Can't believe how old I sound writing this shit..

    I think Wayne has a responsibility to his younger fans especially..No problem with him drinking his shit. I don't even have a problem him rapping about it. He's a grown man. But everytime you see him step out he's got a plastic cup. He's sending a message.

    Do that shit in private. I don't see any artists lighting a spliff in interviews and in blazing in public. Everywhere he goes he got a cup in hand. Cut that shit out. It's getting pathetic.
    April 2, 2008 9:24 PM
     

    willie falcone said:

    There is no such thing as moderation when it comes to syrup!
    April 2, 2008 9:48 PM
     

    MrNoName said:

    Yo I heard some shit someone talkin bout they drop Jolly Ranchers in that shit, is that true? I dont drank so I would know...
    April 2, 2008 10:03 PM
     

    drewhood said:

    justin.thibodeaux said:
    R.I.P. to Pimp C and Screw and all the people that have been lost to lean.

    I'm from Port Arthur, TX (409 all day baby) but I don't mess with the drank because I respect my body too much.  Folks need to get it together and realize that their bodies are temples.  To tell the truth, I pretty much abstain from all substances that alter your reality (i.e. alcohol, marijuana, coke,etc.).  I don't knock anybody who does drink or/and smoke but as long as they aren't advertising it to the youth man.  As long as you can keep a man dazed and confused you have the power; you don't think these cats out here selling drugs don't know that?  We losing too many people to poison like syrup and it's because people tell them that it makes them feel good.  One love and deuces


    thats what im sayin homie,  millions of kids out here listenin to rappers talkin bout lean, they look up to these dudes, why the fuck u gotta promote some shit like this that will kill u.  what the fuck is wrong with some of these rappers man
    April 2, 2008 10:07 PM
     

    ArcticFury said:

    @justin.thibodeaux

    I can respect that man, that's a good look.


    IMO, Altering your reality is alright if it's done once in a while and in an area where it can't hurt anybody.

    I've always wanted to try some drank. Maybe one day I can find some.
    April 2, 2008 10:33 PM
     

    Tha Legendary said:

    Maan I'm from Houston and I know how bad it is. (Not from first hand experience).

    @mrnoname:

    yeah its true they put jolly ranchers in it for the taste and the soda I've always known them to mix it with is big red & sprite, never heard of the cream soda.

    The saddest part is there are still some artists here that still drink it. And when  word got around that Big Moe died, the first thing people would say is " Gotta leave that drank alone" (You could almost see it coming cause a lot of them gain weight)

    R.I.P. to all the Houston/S.U.C. Legends:
    DJ Screw, Big Moe, Pimp C

    Big Steve, Fat Pat, Big Hawk, Big Mello
    April 2, 2008 11:28 PM
     

    ya future father said:

    thats the truth
    April 3, 2008 12:28 AM
     

    mo.city_don said:

    if you never heard of boys pourin up in a&w cream soda you aint from h-town my nigga. everybody talking negative about the drug but every city or state has there drug of choice. people in atlanta be on powder like regular people smoke weed. niggas in cali smoke pcp.................. niggas in texas sip drank. if you tried it youll know why. it taste good and it get you full. im not saying that it is a good habit but shit what can i say everybody make they own decisions. no drug is a good drug. to much of most drugs can make you overdose so why niggas only pointing out drank
    April 3, 2008 2:16 AM
     

    mo.city_don said:

    boys are paying $40 for a liquid oz drank where i stay and a oz aint shit. i feel you gotta at least have a 4 which a run bout $160. i dont know a kid that could afford that unless he saving alot of lunch money. its expensive taste aint no kids on that, so i wouldnt say that they favorite rapper is influencing him. most cities still aint on it, its really like a southern thing
    April 3, 2008 2:22 AM
     

    mo.city_don said:

    hah $160, you think that kid gone want some drank or some jordans. but even more importantly why dont they talk about some things that matter more than this........... like why A-Rod is getting 28 million this year to hit a ball, or why thousands of soldiers are dying to no prevail. what about gas prices not going down anytime soon, or how our black community is at an all time high for stds and hiv. i wonder how many people would be talking about that type of shit that matters more in the world. a young dude just got killed down the street from my house in cold blood 15 years old. lets talk about black on black crime and how niggas thats old as fuck still trying to gang bang and would kill a nigga wearing a different color than he or she.
    April 3, 2008 2:50 AM
     

    Tha Legendary said:

    Dude don't tell me where I'm from nigga. Southwest Houston 24/7. Mo City nigga jus like u claim 2 be..... Don't no damn soda dictate where u from.........and they do talk about all the shit u said...We call it the Houston chronicle.....the reason u see this here is because this is All Hip Hop....do the math
    April 3, 2008 3:11 AM
     

    Stophatinpresident said:

    Dr. Rani Whitfield....this guy knows what hes talkin about...i used to see him in high school....hes more of a sports doctor that is so well known around this city(BR) we just call him hip hop cause the nigga like 30 and he used to be at all the parties and shit around town like a normal nigga....he even saved my football career...but I aint gone lie doc drank is the best tastin shit in the world(no wonder y its so dangerous) its so good its bad for u like pre-marital sex!!! But im glad hes gettin national exposure proud of u doc...but i still po up!!!
    April 3, 2008 9:07 AM
     

    PIFFNIFICENT said:

    First of all PHILLY is the home of syrup, let's take it back to 1980 when we were eating pancakes(Doradens) AND drinking syrup(Brumenol&Tussinex)we called it having pancakes and syrup. I was a young boy and noone at least in the south was talking about it in their music or anything, you could recognize PHILLY if someone did talk about it which kind of happened before Lil Wayne was HOT!! As a matter of fact if I can remember Lil Wayne did spend a lot of time around Major Figures(Figgas) when his rap style changed (remember him wearing the MF chain?) well they are from PHILLY and that might have been the time when he really started getting on, (SHOUT OUT TO GILLY) but anyway this has ben going on forever where I am from and I know many soldiers that fell, I myself am blessed to have come this far, but I must admit I am still a Philly dude to the fullest, I have also lived in Houston, and PHILLY is the home of such an old street high. Be safe to all young people and live well, experience is a good teacher and WE ALL HAVE OUR VICES, mine might not be yours and yours might not be illegal but judge not until you judge yourself. BE HEALTHY AND SMOKE THAT PIFF... HEY HEY HEY HEY SMOKE PIFF EVERYDAY.    
    April 3, 2008 1:13 PM
     

    Freeway Pinky Ross said:

    I dont even know why ya'll posted this story, niggaz dont care until its too late.....
    April 4, 2008 2:04 AM
     

    RAW MF said:

    Down here in south Alabama.... you can find that shit like a Bud Light, you always got somebody that can get large quantities=they gunna make loot off anything down here...Damn they even sellin Cialis around this bitch- young dudes buying that shit claimin its better than viagra. That Oxy and Chrystal Meth the next drug of choice if you aint heard yet. Damn they still sniffin polyeurathane! LOL Wayne needs some inpatient




    April 4, 2008 3:25 AM
     

    RedDeezo said:

    only them southern niggas do that shit. To let ya'll know them Philly niggas started that shit.....But that shit is ignerant...Anybody defending that shit is crazy and probably on lean.
    April 4, 2008 4:09 AM
     

    Quis4sho said:

    Mannnn... I'm from da south, GA all day & everybody need 2 jus stop... wit dat NORTH & SOUTH shit be'cuz I wuz bumpin' Wu-Tang & everythang else that wuz cummin' out of NewYork b4 all them niggas fell the fuck off & as I recall all them niggas wuz very high on sum type shit back then while recording them albums.  Look at ODB (RIP) & DMX right now... so don't give me dat shit like all of a sudden Lil Wayne & niggas from da south are jus takin it too far these days... I don't sip & dat nigga probably does need help but he iz a GROWN ASS MAN & can't nobody make him do nuthin'.  Drugs are everywhere & people do wut they want...  Da consequences are sometimes unfortunate...  NewYork niggas pleeze drop da fuckin' EGO when it comes 2 da south weather it be music or drugs DAMN...
    April 4, 2008 4:54 AM
     

    WhoRyde said:

    Well said Quis4sho! That has nothing to do with where your from drugs are drugs and everybody is using some type of drug in way or another. Bottom line drug aren't good for your body unless they are helping heal it.

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    April 4, 2008 9:07 AM
     

    SENSUAL SEDUCTION said:

    To be honest it doesnt matter who or where it started. The point is that Wayne and anybody that is on that shit needs help!!!!! It's really sad to hear that an 18 year old has been clean off heroin for almost 2 years. I love Waynes music but dude has a problem point blank. I mean for real is life so hard that you want to get fucked up off of some shit that will eventually kill you???
    April 4, 2008 9:18 AM
     

    AHH 4:20 said:

    they be lettin' lil' wayne floss that white cup of lean on t.v. & shit like shit is sweet.  in my section of queens (nyc), it's a big addiction to perscription pills like percoset, vicodin, xanex; anything a nigga could get his hands on that puts u in slo-mo, so i understand the problem.  it's a generation thing - like lsd was to the hippies, lean & perscripted medicine is to the current generation.  we just gotta make kids aware that, just b/c a doctor can perscribe it, doesn't mean it wont' kill u if u do it for fun.  i took 3 700mg tabs of vicodin within the same hour, thinkin' i was super-addict & i wound up in the hospital b/c the shit surpressed my cough... and air to where i couldn't even breathe anymore.  any kids that's readin' this... i ain't sayin' to be boring & have no fun but don't be doin' drugs b/c u hear lil' wayne doin' it - i mean, listen to "lollipop"... do u really want that for yourself?

    on another note, i feel lil' wayne is doing this drug abuse gimmick now to seem like a great artist.  u kno jimi hendrix, curt cobain, & all these cats were considered the greatest of all time despite their drug-related issues/deaths.  i think lil' wayne is trying to be considered in that light, thus his self-publicized drug abuse.  i like lil' wayne (rarely) but i can't respect somebody who is force-feeding the fact that he does drugs, to seem like it brings more of a uniqueness to his music... and with dreads in 2008; not hot.
    April 4, 2008 10:21 AM
     

    mo.city_don said:

    @Tha Legendary

    i understand that dude, but honestly how many young black people you know read the news paper? few if any. if they put stuff like that on here people will read it. thats all im saying. dont get get hot under your collar my nigga im just speaking words
    April 4, 2008 10:47 AM
     

    SUPER_MARIO™ said:

    IT SAD TO SEE WAT WE ARE DOIN TO ARE SELVES DESE DAYS.

    AS BLACK PPL, WE TALK SHT AN PROTEST DAT WHITE PPL AINT

    DOIN SHT FOR US BUT WEN U LOOK CLOSELY, <b>WE</b>

    REALLY AINT DOIN SHT FOR OURSELVES.


    -THIS SIZZURP SHIT AINT DOIN NUTHIN FOR US BUT PROVIN

    OUR "IGNORANCE" AS SOME WOULD CALL IT AND

    INCREASING DA DEATH RATE FOR BLACKS....
    April 4, 2008 11:06 AM
     

    Optimo said:

    Maybe its me, but i dont kno anyone in the city fukin with this stuff... we just stick to da piff up here.
    April 4, 2008 11:41 AM
     

    Cee_Killa23 said:

    I aint Fuckin wit dat shit..!!..Give me some of dat stuff that grows frm da Earth..ha..!
    April 4, 2008 12:22 PM
     

    Esq. of LastLeveL said:

    @ AHH 4:20

    About the kids, hell, they shouldn't need drugs or alcohol to be cool no way...if you NEED that to have fun, then you're probably a lame and boring person.

    About Weezy...DUDE, I promise you I was JUST thinking the same thing. It's like, Lil' Wayne got a HELL of alot of attention, but maybe he wants a different kind. Maybe it's like Dwayne's not getting enough attention, you know what I'm sayin? So he wants people to care more about Dwayne than Weezy F....I don't know, but I agree with you on that...superstardom is a bitch on wheels!
    April 4, 2008 12:35 PM
     

    SouthernRep said:

    I'm pretty sure somebody around Wayne has advised him to stop case in point his dj has tried. But if he don't want to listen you can't stop him. He needs help cause I don't wish death on anyone and its been enough celebrity casualties to this situation. But it's not just about him, it's plenty of people of gettin high off this and if you take it away they will find another way of gettin' high. Thats why you teach these people as young folks to stay away from any kind of addicting illegal drugs. It's sad to see Wayne slowly slipping into a deeper addiction but he is just the poster child for others that are in his situation or even worse off than him. I hope he can clean himself up and maybe it will inspire others addicted to any illegal drugs to do the same.
    April 4, 2008 12:58 PM
     

    BLUNTBLAZER said:

    KINDA LIKE PILLS PILLS BE CUT WIT HELL DIFF DRUGS
    ITZ COO MAYBE TWICE A WEEK BUT ERYDAY N U GONNA FEEL THA PAIN SYRUP IS KINDA LIKE PILLS DONT DO IT ERY DAY N ULL BE STRAIT.
    I GUESS WEED N DRANK IS OUTA STYLE NOW.

    WWW.MYSPACE.COM/THAGRINDAHOLIC
    PEEP THA NEW KNOCK
    "GRIMEY"
    April 4, 2008 1:08 PM
     

    Gboy314 said:

    Say nope to dope!!!

    Check out this dude...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyK3rqQobN0

    Gboy
    April 4, 2008 1:15 PM
     

    mrmarcus619 said:

    no one can really say where syrup started...all of our elders used to sip it...it was called their "medicine."  it was a cheap high, and fairly easy to get back in the day. i been sippin since abt 93 or 94...i'm not addicted or anything....i just like it...i like the feeling of leaning...some like a weed high...i don't. i got half a PT left cause i slowed down a lot since Pimp C, cause i got sleep apnea too. not eve sure if im gonna finish the PT. cats trying to buy it from me, but i'm not gonna be the cause of anyone elses death. thats a weight i'd neva want on my shoulders. any cat who talks down on sippin, but either drinks or smokes has NO room to talk...they all can kill you...
    April 4, 2008 1:20 PM
     

    Jay322 said:

    Styles P said "Thirsty 2 Live All Yall Niggas Eager 2 Die."  I mean I want to live as long as possible.  I mean I smoke hella green on the daily, but Ive never once took a pill sip on some drank and aint nothin never went up my nose.  Shit I dont even like to take over the counter pills for headaches.  I mean I suppose to get my wisdom teeth pulled but I wont because Im not tryna to take any pills or anything for that matter because I just dont get down.  I think all these rappers who are unable to pull away from these drugs need to go back and listen to 50's The Massacre and listen to "A Balitmore Love Thing"
    April 4, 2008 1:21 PM
     

    BlackSean said:

    That's one that I never understood......  I got chronic bronchitis & I don't like taking that shit (promethazine) when its perscribed.  How cats sip on it recreationally.....  That shit will literally have you on "stuck"...  

    Question:
    Is that why sum folk dig the Screwed & Chopped version of songs~ your brain gotta be on "strobelight" to enjoy music w/15 bpm ?  No diss becuz I gotta couple S & C cds from my fam in Texas  & I always say "you gotta be seriously fucked up to listen start to finish"
    April 4, 2008 1:29 PM
     

    nohomo19 said:

    that shit aint no joke, sizzurp makes you feel good but after a while, you feel like lazy as fuck
    April 4, 2008 3:02 PM
     

    WTF happened 2 U said:

    Smoke sumthin BITCH...... co sign on the "what ever happened to smokin a blunt"...but leave that deadly shit alone.
    April 4, 2008 4:45 PM
     

    BULLCITY FELLA said:

    i gotta admit, i never knew it was THIS serious....i guess cause i don't mess with the stuff.....also didn't know you could stretch it like that on the streetz.....watch out ya'll....sounds like the new street-slave.....
    these days u could concoct damn-near anything and if somebody says they got high off of it, then u'd have a line of dumb-ni**as stretching a city block to buy the stuff......SMH..!!!
    April 4, 2008 4:53 PM
     

    michael50 said:

    Who cares? As long as the only people they hurt are THEMSELVES, so be it.
    April 4, 2008 5:22 PM
     

    Dove said:

    @ michael50

    That's a pretty wack thing to say or even think - kind of like something the KKK might say about any young Black person hurting themselves.
    April 4, 2008 5:27 PM
     

    feelitall said:

    I will stick to my Crown and swishas

    www.myspace.com/feelitallproductions
    April 4, 2008 6:19 PM
     

    charliestons said:

    isn't this the most fucked up drink ever...

    April 4, 2008 6:46 PM
     

    Cishma said:

    haha at all the jokes, but this mess is not funny. I lived in Houston for awhile and i seen people gooone off lean, i mean gooone. it is very addictive (i guess, cuz i dont know personally) and it will rape your pockets. im not one for anything being in my pockets... guess ill just keep getting high on life
    April 4, 2008 7:22 PM
     

    Shabock said:

    When did weed stop becoming enough?
    April 4, 2008 10:34 PM
     

    Malcolm X jr. said:

    allhiphop, good looks with this article... yo, it cracks me up seeing some people justifying, if not condoning this stuff, and then saying r.i.p and showing sympathy for the guys who have died from it.  Its ok to be empathetic, but at the end of the day you make your own bed and at some point you have to sleep in it.  I've been blessed, i've stayed away from drugs and alcohol, plan on going the college route, but its a shame to see my people out there dying off this.  Seeing this stuff is really sad...  
    April 5, 2008 2:14 AM
     

    Malcolm X jr. said:

    and another thing.. i'm laughing at the guys promoting their drug of choice.  Just cause its not as bad for you doesn't mean its good or has no ill effects in the long term.  BLACK AMERICA.. LETS GET IT TOGETHER
    April 5, 2008 2:19 AM
     

    A-Town Vet said:

    Who started that lean, Philly or Houston?
    April 5, 2008 5:14 AM
     

    mrmarcus619 said:


      A-Town Vet said:
    Who started that lean, Philly or Houston?


    there's no way to know where lean started...
    April 5, 2008 12:12 PM
     

    WILLY KILLEM? said:

    That shit done made its way to atlanta, this nigga on the westside tried to sell me a small baby bottle fulla that shit for 50 dollars.
    i like to get loaded & all but THAT shit is too expensive AND dangerous.
    April 5, 2008 1:34 PM
     

    LastDragon55 said:

    I did it once about six years ago and will never do it again.  I'll stick to weed.  That Syrup shit is way too dangerous.
    April 5, 2008 3:03 PM
     

    BankRoll510 said:

     
    disconnexions said:
    I don't know what's worse.. niccas drinkin cough syrup to get high or cats actually making money selling it on the street.

    What's next? Shooting up Listerine? Snorting Flintstones vitamins? Smoking toothpaste?

    Get your stupid azzes out the bathroom cabinet and read a goddam book!!!

    Amen to that..lol..
    April 5, 2008 3:27 PM
     

    Katalyst said:

    just think mufuckas use to sniff glue too! lol

    April 5, 2008 10:45 PM
     

    dOLOSTIMULUS said:

    yall niggas need to lay off that dumbshit! fucc all that, wit that yak and that kush, what more do i need?

    thats suicide dummy! you'll never hear  me rhymin about that shit........ weed come from the earth fucc any man made shit!
    April 6, 2008 12:51 AM
     

    ShelNYC said:

    Syrup?  Really dumb shit.  Lil Wayne?  Ridiculous!  He has some hits but would anyone want to look like him?  Absolutely not!  Take care of your bodies and your mind.  I'm not trying to preach but hit the gym, eat right and look good.  Stop eating all that bullshit.  If you insist on getting twisted.............. dont do that shit everyday.  DJ Screw and Pimp C, RIP.  Doesnt that say enough?
    April 6, 2008 10:04 AM
     

    TrilogyofTerror said:

    More self destructive behavior that we seem to glorify in hip hop culture. We complain about being attacked by the media, yet we continue to feed it with stupidity like this. people know what PC does to the body yet they still dip in it then want some kind of sympathy. As far as I am concerned weezy gets none from me because he made the choice to put it into his bloodstream.
    April 6, 2008 10:28 AM
     

    Kutekappa1911 said:

    @     dOLOSTIMULUS said:
    "yall niggas need to lay off that dumbshit! fucc all that, wit that yak and that kush, what more do i need?

    thats suicide dummy! you'll never hear  me rhymin about that shit........ weed come from the earth fucc any man made shit!


    Didn't you read the article?  It says Codeine comes from the opium poppy, (which is a plant FROM THE EARTH) and is related to morphine and heroin.  The point is that, just because something is "FROM THE EARTH" doesn't make it good to put into your body.  Examples: Mistletoe, Daffodils, Rhododendrons.  All of those are FROM THE EARTH and all of them CAN CAUSE DEATH if you ingest enough of them.  

    Educate yourselves people!  

    April 6, 2008 2:53 PM
     

    SneakyRussian said:

    Also, LOL @ all these people thinkin that they're straight by smokin "kush" cause they doin "natural" stuff. Hydro weed is as far from natural as codeine is from the opium poppy - it's grown using tons of chemical fertilizer and additives in the soil and sprayed with loads of pesticides not to mention the strains are genetically crossed.

    I mean I don't hate on smokin weed but at least be realistic about it goddamn
    April 6, 2008 10:08 PM
     

    TheBossHimself973 said:

    Ive had it before and wasnt really feelin it like that. It got me fucked up but shit I rather sip some bacardi and smoke some Piff instead of that lean.
    April 6, 2008 10:38 PM
     

    silencer782 said:

     
    Kutekappa1911 said:

    Didn't you read the article?  It says Codeine comes from the opium poppy, (which is a plant FROM THE EARTH) and is related to morphine and heroin.  The point is that, just because something is "FROM THE EARTH" doesn't make it good to put into your body.  Examples: Mistletoe, Daffodils, Rhododendrons.  All of those are FROM THE EARTH and all of them CAN CAUSE DEATH if you ingest enough of them.  

    Educate yourselves people!

    SneakyRussian said:
    Also, LOL @ all these people thinkin that they're straight by smokin "kush" cause they doin "natural" stuff. Hydro weed is as far from natural as codeine is from the opium poppy - it's grown using tons of chemical fertilizer and additives in the soil and sprayed with loads of pesticides not to mention the strains are genetically crossed.

    I mean I don't hate on smokin weed but at least be realistic about it goddamn


    LMAO...I was goin thru reading these comments thinking the exact same thing!...cats are postin on here talkin bout:  "Well just give me that natural weed that comes from the earth and Im str8."  

    NEWSFLASH...opiates come from the earth also...all drugs come from the earth...alcohol is a natural drug made from fermented fruits/vegetables but that doesnt mean its healthy or good for you.  

    P.S.  I dont really even think Wayne sips as much as he would lead people to believe...Just because he has a cup doesnt always mean he is "leanin"....My guess is that 6-7 times out of 10 when he is seen on camera with a cup, theres's probably not even a mind altering substance the cup.  But it fux with peoples' psyche to make people assume he is sippin lean all the time.
    April 7, 2008 11:00 AM
     

    Sinistah aka Sin Piffcaso said:

    i stopped messin wit it, because it didn't do anything for me, da same way i felt when trying extasy da few times i did.......

    lean only made me drowsy, sorta like cough medicine, but nothing to write home about as far as the feeling and we had about three 2 liter sodas worth(not for recreation, but to see my peeps off well for his skid bid)......

    and yeah i'll take Piff over any other drug, over the counter or prescribed.... and yeah i know it has chmeicals in it too, but i can honestly say i havent had a cold or medical illness in 2yrs never had the harshness of a hang-over because of it and it's damn sure safer to drive while "Kush'd' up" than while being drunk/drinking or leanin......
    April 7, 2008 2:26 PM
     

    Tone_Dubbz said:

    Man when I had brochittis, they gave me that cough syrup with the codeine in it.  

    After I got over the cough, I took a shot of the syrup and drank a beer and followed that with a bong hit of kush and that shit had my head extra tight!  
    April 7, 2008 2:40 PM
     

    MadeMan3000 said:

    Some of the comments on here really cracks me up, ni99az calling Wayne a dumbass and all sorts of shit for sippin syrup! In reality why the hell people talking down on that man,shit that's his drug of choice. I don't do drugs and I don't condon drug abuse or use,but I ain't gonna knock no ni99a for living his/her life how they please. To be honest to me a drug is a drug wheater it be weed,syrup,coke,ex,crack or cocaine,so ni99az need to stop that shit talking like the next ni99a habits any worst than his own. It's all about ur drug of choice all that shit will eventually kill you,some just does it quicker than the other I di<MOTHERFUGKING>gress!
    June 17, 2008 1:55 PM
     

    MadeMan3000 said:

    @  Jay322 said:

    I think all these rappers who are unable to pull away from these drugs need to go back and listen to 50's The Massacre and listen to "A Balitmore Love Thing"

    I think just listen to 50's The Massacre is far worst than any drug that shit was GARBAGE!
    June 17, 2008 2:07 PM
     

    MadeMan3000 said:

     Malcolm X jr. said:
    and another thing.. i'm laughing at the guys promoting their drug of choice.  Just cause its not as bad for you doesn't mean its good or has no ill effects in the long term.  BLACK AMERICA.. LETS GET IT TOGETHER

    Co-sign!
    June 17, 2008 2:08 PM
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