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Knockout Nation: De La Hoya Dominates, But Can He Beat Mayweather? 
Published Monday, May 05, 2008 4:00 PM
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Oscar De La Hoya (39-5, 30 KOs) proved too strong and busy for a game Steve Forbes (33-6, 9 KOs), as the Golden Boy outworked his smaller opponent for a lopsided but competitive unanimous decision win. With a stiff jab and trademark flurries, De La Hoya was able to keep Forbes at bay while piling up points.           

               

Through round five, Forbes’ head was repeatedly snapped back by De La Hoya’s jab. At mid range, De La Hoya varied his combinations to the head and body in hopes of wearing the former Contender star down.


Undeterred, Forbes connected with clean hooks of his own, in particular when he went inside and punched with his larger opponent. Despite Oscar’s high punch output, the more damaging and cleaner punches came early on from Forbes. A mouse under the left eye and abrasions on De La Hoya’s nose reflected these sporadic assaults.

               

Over the second half of the bout De La Hoya was able to pull away due to his work rate although the majority of his combinations were not landing clean. Forbes was forced to counter in isolated spurts which were not enough to win rounds.  But in rounds eight and eleven “Two Pound” was able to land jarring uppercuts and kept Oscar aware he was in with a tough opponent.

               

Final scorecards read 119-109 twice, and 120-108 all in favor of De La Hoya. In the post fight interview Oscar revealed that while the rematch with Mayweather is not finalized, he prides himself on “fighting the best” and that “I’m going to go after him because I know I can beat him.”


               


HBO’s team did their best shill job to convince the buying public that De La Hoya has a chance against the Pretty Boy. Emmanuel Steward spent his time gushing over Oscar’s jab while Jim Lampley and Larry Merchant took every opportunity to remind us how De La Hoya’s stamina has improved. They have to keep it up, as it’ll take more than one telecast to erase memories of a faded De La Hoya getting easily out boxed down the stretch by Mayweather at a weight the Pound for Pound king had no business being at (154 pounds).

               

Despite HBO’s efforts, the same glaring weaknesses remain that’ll sink a 35 year old De La Hoya against Money May. First, Oscar exhibited very limited head movement last Saturday. When Forbes let his hands go, he had no problem finding Oscar’s face. He was able to counter in the middle of Oscar’s combinations and also put in good work to the body.


The results were a busted up Oscar as the fight progressed. Second, De La Hoya’s balance and timing still leave a lot to be desired. Oscar many times lost his balance as Forbes slipped his punches, which will prove fatal against the faster Mayweather. Finally, De La Hoya’s stamina has not magically improved, as his punch output (particularly the jab) became sloppier down the stretch.

               

Unless Mayweather is severely affected by his layoff, expect another clear win for Mayweather come September. Don’t let the impending hype machine fool you regarding De La Hoya’s chances.

 

 

Dirrell Blasts Hanshaw in Redemption Bout

               

After turning into a track star last year against Cutis Stevens, Andre Dirrell (15-0, 10 KOs) was trashed by every boxing observer out there. Larry Merchant went as far on air to proclaim that he’d never watch Dirrell again. Well, if the old man kept true to his word he missed an impressive and dominant win this past Friday, as Dirrell crushed Anthony Hanshaw (21-2-1, 14 KOs) in five mostly one-sided rounds on Showtime.

               

Hanshaw started the fight well by crowding Dirrell against the ropes and stunning him for a missed flash knockdown. However, an angry Dirrell recovered and began bouncing sharp right and left leads off Hanshaw’s skull, showing a huge speed disparity between the two fighters. The assault continued in round three as Hanshaw was hurt by straight lefts and began holding. By round five, a visibly gun-shy Hanshaw became cannon-fodder as Direll ruined him with lightning-fast lead hooks to score an impressive stoppage.

               

With the win, the young prospect redeems his name value after destroying a durable fighter who recently went the distance with Roy Jones, Jr.  Look for the TV dates to start rolling back in for the flashy super-middleweight.


Calzaghe Tells Hopkins to Stop Crying

 

Newly crowned light-heavyweight champ Joe Calzaghe told the BBC he’s tired of Bernard Hopkins’ antics since their showdown two weeks ago. The undefeated Welshman gave his thoughts on the matter:


“He should get over it. He should watch the tape and accept that he lost. There were three American judges and he still lost. I don’t need to find 100 excuses because I won. He’s a sore loser. I won the fight. I was the aggressor. I landed more punches. End of story.


I don’t mind if I don’t see the guy again. To be honest, I’ve never been a Bernard Hopkins fan and never will be. You ask me about Roy Jones Jr and I’ll say I like him and love his style. I’ve got a lot of respect for him and he is a legend but Hopkins isn’t.”


 

Talks are expected to begin for a proposed Calzaghe-Jones bout later this year.







Vazquez-Marquez IV in Talks

               

In a truly sadistic turn of events, talks have begun for a proposed fourth installment between warriors Israel Vazquez and Rafael Marquez. Marquez won the first bout after breaking Vazquez’s nose. Vazquez bounced back to TKO Marquez in the rematch and squeak out a 1 point decision win in the classic rubber match.

               

All three fights were thrilling but debilitating and brutal. They’ve fought nearly 30 grueling rounds in the span of year and deserve a break. But money talks and these two men won’t be able to generate the kind of money elsewhere that they can by beating the primes out of each other. After a fourth fight, I don’t think there will be much left for anyone else to face.


First Fight






Rematch





Rubber Match



 



Throwback Fighter of the Week-Thomas “Hitman” Hearns

These days welterweight talks are dominated by names like Floyd Mayweather, Miguel Cotto, and Antonio Margarito. Here’s a fighter who would’ve had his way with all of them. Watch and learn.



 



Comments

 

chuckwaters said:

Good write up as usual.

Forbes actually looked good, if he moves to 140 I think he can capture a title and cause problems for D.Hop, Urango, Hatton, and Torres.
May 5, 2008 4:04 PM
 

JRucker said:

De La Hoya is looking for revenge against Mayweather. It was clear their first fight that De La Hoya couldnt mess wit Mayweather. The only point in these two fighting again is Money! I don't know about ya'll but.. i would much rather see Mayweather fight the winner of Cotto v Margarito. A fight between Mayweather and De La Hoya will probably be the same. Or they are setting us up for a trilogy. De La Hoya only wants to fight two more times. so maybe Mayweather takes a dive in September and they fight again in December. That will be huge as far as money is concerned. However, i cant see Mayweather lettin his O go for any amount of money.
May 5, 2008 4:13 PM
 

bman said:

Floyd will smash this dude if he fights like he did with Forbes...
I doubt Floyd would take a fall, his ego is waaaay too big for that, plus, hat man already rich as hell.. but still... don't nothin move but the money, so we'll see... good point JRucker
May 5, 2008 4:25 PM
 

doobie ashtray said:

NO... SOUNDS LIKE A PAYDAY FOR ALL INVOLVED
May 5, 2008 5:09 PM
 

Way2Kool said:

I'm not suprised Oscar De La Hoya won, neither am I suprised that Steve Forbes went the distance with him.  Steve reppin' that "Insulated Black Tribe" from the 503; we get down with Boxing, MMA, Greco Roman/Freestyle wrestling, Judo, Karate, Kickboxing etc up here.  I know cats that's nice with the hands & feet.  Shout out to my peoples from the NW.  
May 5, 2008 5:14 PM
 

Shifty_UK said:

de la hoya has a point to prove, just like hatton.

mayweather has a record to keep clean.

its gonna be interesting.

anyone hear anything on hatton/mayweather part 2?
May 5, 2008 5:21 PM
 

ToneofTERRAZONA~BWS said:

Yo the Golden Boy is gettin old but dude got a couple K-Os left to give, I cant wait to see more..........
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May 5, 2008 5:57 PM
 

kolorbl9d said:

Man, forget De La Hoya and Hatton. Mayweather is only fighting De La Hoya for the money. And I aint mad at him [he made about 20 million, Oscar made between 30 and 50 million], but nobody wants to see that fight again. They bout to hype this thing up; just all about the money.

Mayweather need to fight Cotto!

Whatever happen to fighting the best to be the best. Ali had to fight Frazier and Foreman, Sugar Ray had to fight Hearns and Hagler.

De La Hoya is passed his prime.

Mayweather vs' Cotto [The only fight that really matters]
May 5, 2008 5:58 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

Not this again
May 5, 2008 6:03 PM
 

Akaneon1 said:

If De La Hoya really ramps up, I actually think he could beat Mayweather... Mayweather is hyped up too, he's not that great
May 5, 2008 6:38 PM
 

ToneofTERRAZONA~BWS said:

hey yo yall gotta check out those Vazquez-Marquez fights for real!!! you gotta watch all 3 fights tho.
May 5, 2008 6:40 PM
 

Mr100Proof said:

May 5, 2008 7:02 PM
 

LTBROWN said:

HE'S NOT BEATING MAYWEATHER. GO HEAD ON AND RUN THAT. LOL HE'S GOLDEN. FLOYD'S PLAT! HAHA
May 5, 2008 7:05 PM
 

pimpharder said:

@ JRucker.... i feel you my nigga, i want to see Floyd and Cotto fight! I think Cotto has the best chance of beating Mayweather and i think Floyd know that shit....
May 5, 2008 7:08 PM
 

WhoRyde said:

That fight was ridiculous Oscar clearly beat a sparing partner. I mean man this whole fight was a fake fight to help promote Oscar.

That dude didn't even win on the contender so how was he going to be Oscar?

And Floyd father isn't shit for trying to help another man defeat his son!

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May 5, 2008 8:22 PM
 

nawfsidin_htx said:

JRucker...I co-sign...man everyone always disagrees that I've told that too. But come on, De la Hoya is out to make some cash and Floyd isn't about to pass up on it...as you can tell by him showing up on fucking wrestling. De la Hoya is most likely going to win this one...which will then setup a third fight to end the saga. Personally, I think the winner of Cotto vs Margarito can really put a pounding on Floyd's ass....Why? These are two of the hardest hitting boxers in their weight right now...Each of their fights have proven that...Margarito kind of got too cocky against Paul Williams and wasn't as agressive but he sure did prove that he isn't about to make that mistake again. I'm looking forward to Cotto vs Margarito more than De la Hoya and Mayweather. I wouldn't mind seeing another Marquez/Pacquiao
May 5, 2008 8:23 PM
 

WhoRyde said:

Yeah man your right! They just trying to get everybody to watch a De La Hoya- Floyd 2 and then 3!

You notice how Oscar did all of this around Cinco de Mayo? And how he was trying to get the Mexican Americans support. He even had them play the Mexican national anthem. Oscar from East LA! Come on Oscar!

He using some Don King tactics to build up a rematch.


I don't want to see Oscar/Floyd 2 IT'S GOING TO BE A FIX!

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May 5, 2008 8:38 PM
 

nawfsidin_htx said:

I'm telling ya, it's all money now with them niggas. All they trying to do is hype the shit up to make more fucking money. Get Cotto or Margarito on that ass...game over for Mayweather flaunting ass. You know he scared of Cotto...he ain't ready for them body shots cause Cotto isn't that much slower then him. If you ask me, Mayweather's a sissy fighter...too much running around. I'm used to seeing fighters actually fight....
May 5, 2008 9:15 PM
 

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May 5, 2008 9:32 PM
 

DUBZ01 said:

i think de la hoya can beat mayweather. nobody is unbeatable.
May 5, 2008 9:51 PM
 

VISION VANSON BX said:

I agree with yall comments for the most part. The fight everybody does wanna see is Cotto vs. Mayweather. And although I'm a Cotto fan I gotta say Mayweather ain't no walk in the park for him or anybody. Mayweather is the fighter to beat these days and Cotto is the rising star. Cotto has really impressed me his last 2 fights and I also think he has the best chance of beating Mayweather. However both fighters have yet to call out one another which shows the amount of respect they must have for eachother. I also think if Cotto beats Margarito in July he should fight De La Hoya in December even if De La Hoya loses to Mayweather in September. Why? bc De La Hoya is a worthy opponent and it's a good preparation fight before Cotto would meet with Mayweather sometime in 2009. If not I would love to see De La Hoya and Trinidad both end their career with a rematch bc even tho Trinidad lost his last fight against Roy Jones he still looked pretty good and a rematch between him and De La Hoya been needed to happen.
May 5, 2008 9:56 PM
 

kc21_lpd said:

I use to think Cotto posed the biggest threat against Mayweather, but after Cotto fought Sugar Shane man, I dont know... JRucker, I know you saw that shit.. Shane was bringin it to Cotto, and honestly that fight could have went either way. Cotto is a great young fighter, but I think like many of Mayweather's opponents he will be overwhelmed by Mayweather's speed.. Floyd Mayweather is a cocky ass nigga, and sometimes he gets on my nerves, but the dude is truly one of the greats. I always thought Paul Williams would be the one that would give Mayweather the most trouble because of length and speed/power combination...but he recently got exposed himself... The welterweight division is very exciting though...
May 6, 2008 1:02 AM
 

illseed said:

to answer the question....no. floyd seems to be ducking cotto.
May 6, 2008 1:31 AM
 

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May 6, 2008 1:45 AM
 

BROLE 13 said:

De La Hoya is old in boxing terms. But some thing tells me De La Hoya is going to knock him out the 2nd fight. Now I wish the young De La Hoya that one that was hungry straight out of East Los shows up for the 2nd fight. That fighter was a beast!!! But this will never happen I give De La Hoya alot of credit dude is a straight up a business man he never ducked nobody. How come floyd does not call out Cotto? I want to see Mayweather at 35 fight the pound for pound best boxer and tell me who wins?
May 6, 2008 2:05 AM
 

Da Creapa said:

In my opinion, I have always been a fan of De La Hoya. I will admit for his age, he can still do it.  In the first fight against Mayweather, he did good....but he let his jab go for some stupid reason. Say what you want, but he could have beaten Mayweather. I think Mayweather is over-rated as a boxer. He really hasn't proved much to me. He's fast, but that's about it. I really don't think he can take a really good solid punch. If De La Hoya goes in there and catches him with good solid jabs, flurries, and that lethal left hook...he got him!
May 6, 2008 4:49 AM
 

Water Ur Seeds said:

Oscar needed them 12rounds under His belt, I think He defo wanted to go the distance, or KO Him in the 11/12th round. Forbes impressed Me, Im suprized He haz such A poor KO percentage, coz He really tried to bang. He earned himself some big paydays to come. In some of the rounds I noticd De La Hoya went abit easy wen He had A few combos, He sort of backed off, like He wanted to get A lot of rounds under Him.
  I dont fink He will beat Mayweather, but Hes gonna have A totally different game plan.



Floyd will NEVER fight Cotto, Hes to scuuuured. If Mayweather wonts to Be known as A real warrior and one of the GOAT He needs to be oldskool and fight every1 outhere or whoever calls Him out, the young bucks pick and choose and only fight the fights that suit dem, it pisses Me off
May 6, 2008 7:18 AM
 

anzee11 said:

Great article. I guess we'll see the glorified sparring match between Mayweather and De La Hoya.

Mayweather need to fight Margarito or Cotto.

I understand all boxers want to be well off and rich, but for Goodness Sakes, takes chances Gayweather!
May 6, 2008 7:32 AM
 

JRucker said:

 kc21_lpd said:
I use to think Cotto posed the biggest threat against Mayweather, but after Cotto fought Sugar Shane man, I dont know... JRucker, I know you saw that shit.. Shane was bringin it to Cotto, and honestly that fight could have went either way. Cotto is a great young fighter, but I think like many of Mayweather's opponents he will be overwhelmed by Mayweather's speed.. Floyd Mayweather is a cocky ass nigga, and sometimes he gets on my nerves, but the dude is truly one of the greats. I always thought Paul Williams would be the one that would give Mayweather the most trouble because of length and speed/power combination...but he recently got exposed himself... The welterweight division is very exciting though...
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Sup man,

Yeah... I saw that Mosley Cotto fight. Mosley brought it to Cotto. Mosley was actually backing Cotto down. That is a big indication that Cotto is vulnerable cuz he never backs down. I wish Shane would have had a lil more stamina. He could have beat him.

I am going to throw this out there... ya'll are going to jump down my throat... I think Zab coulda knocked Cotto out if he wouldnt have caught those two vicious shots to the balls. After that 2nd blow to the Balls... Zab was out of it. His whole focus was gone. His legs were shot. He just got knocked in the nuts by one of, if not the hardest punching welterweight in the business. That was a major factor. Any way. I know i am going to get the business for that... Zab v Mosely on May 31 should be good. the winner will probably get a shot at something big.

And you are right kc21, the welterweight division is off the chain right now. It's the center piece of the sport.
May 6, 2008 7:57 AM
 

JRucker said:

@kc21...

I forgot... you are also right about Mayweather bringin it to Cotto. He will no doubt win that.
May 6, 2008 7:58 AM
 

JRucker said:

illseed said:
to answer the question....no. floyd seems to be ducking cotto.
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seems to be ducking Cotto? Mayweather is after them dollars. De La Hoya poses more of a threat than Cotto. Cotto is a hard hittin MF and his Jab is developing into something great. De La Hoya is bigger, hard hitting, and also has an outstanding Jab. the difference is, Money. De La Hoya will bring 10 x's more dollars than Cotto. I think Mayweather will eventually fight Cotto, for the right price. But first lets see how Cotto handles that pressure from Margarito. That cat looks hungry as hell right about now. This year will be real interesting for the welterweight division.
May 6, 2008 8:03 AM
 

kolorbl9d said:

I'm a floyd fan,

"it use to be roy, til he got knocked out by ol' boy"

but i think Cotto will win, unless Floyd hit and run all night.

May 7, 2008 4:47 AM
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