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GZA
"Paper Plate"

Added:07-19-2008, 6:42 PM
Played: 36091
Comments: 286

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beenz412 said:

flow was lazy but it was still hard
July 19, 2008 6:49 PM
 

bellj said:

Honeslty the only thing i feel is.... "So what?" It took him this long to come up with this? Fifty won't care about this.This is no ether. Its sad that One line from jay (ima bout a dollar what the fuck is 50 cent) is better than all of these dudes diss tracks to 50.
July 19, 2008 7:06 PM
 

John-E-Ringo said:

wow! That was anniahlation right there- should've been longer but this should get heavy, and I guess that kills the throwing 50 down the stairs rumors cuss if so son would added that jab in, or let me listen again
July 19, 2008 7:07 PM
 

TiKKet said:

goes hard but GZA canNOT put a dent in 50's career.

If 50 wanted to he can prolly buy the rights to this dude's song. LOL.
July 19, 2008 7:09 PM
 

Realestnicca said:

BOOOOOOO!  C'mon man.  50 dissed wu about 10 yrs ago (I think he dissed them on how to rob) and it took them this long to come up with this??  I guess GZA trying to go DOUBLE Copper this time so he's gonna try to diss 50.  I guess that's in style these days.  50 won't respond, you have to atleast go gold SOLO b4 he will respond.
July 19, 2008 7:16 PM
 

Realestnicca said:

Damn.  Just listened to it again.  Should be called "Wet Paper Plate" because that's how weak it is.
July 19, 2008 7:19 PM
 

Esoteric429 said:

<kay slay>DAMN!</kay slay>

what is 50 gonna do?  even if he wanted, i don't think 50 could keep it just him/gza.  the wu is thick.  they'll get at him.
July 19, 2008 7:21 PM
 

Sancheeze said:

Hot shit homie
July 19, 2008 7:37 PM
 

JRucker said:

this was garbage...
July 19, 2008 7:56 PM
 

THEILLESTTODOIT said:

FOR ANYBODY IN HERE TRYING TO SAY THIS IS WEAK OBVIOUSLY IS CAUGHT IN THE SOULJAH BOY ERA.I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU.AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED GZA DESTROYED HIM WITH THAT ONE VERSE.A SEASONED VET. FOR THOSE THAT KNOW THE HISTORY THE BEEF STARTED WITH 50'S HOW TO ROB.THEN THEY DID THE CLYDE SKIT ON GHOST'S ALBUM.AND THAT'S WHAT STARTED THE G-UNIT NAME.GHOST HAD THE THEODORE UNIT AND 50 RESPONDED TO THEM ON THE WU BEAT SPITTING G-UNIT TNIGGA THAT'S WHATS UP.THE REST IS HISTORY THE BEEF WAS CREATED.EVEN 50 GOTTA ADMIT GZA CAME HARD ON THIS ONE MUCH PROPS TO THE WU.THEY NEED TO SHOOT A ILL VIDEO FOR THIS JOINT WITH ALL THE CLAN IN IT.THIS ONE JOINT WILL BRING WU BACK TO THE FOREFRONT.GZA FUCK THAT CAPATALIZE OFF THE BEEF EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.AND NOTICE HOW HE STRUCK WHEN 50 APPEARS TO BE AT HIS LOWEST SMART MOVES.YO GZA IF YOU DO A VIDEO YOU NEED TO HAVE GAME AND BUCK IN THERE.WOW MAN DOWN IT'S A WRAP
July 19, 2008 7:56 PM
 

slimturk said:

This is garbage!!!

You cant go to beef with 50 Cent....He will wreck your career and the rest of Wu's career....Well what career does Wu have anymore? I used to listen to them back in high school and after Wu tang forever they fell off ...
July 19, 2008 7:57 PM
 

MRGODBYROAD said:

PEACE TO THE GOD GZA!!! 50 COULD NOT SEE HIM WITH BIFOCAL CONTACTS!!!!!!!! REAL TALK
1 OF THE BEST TO EVER TOUCH THE MIC!!!! DO YOUR MUTHAFUCKIN HOMEWORK!!!!!

WU TANG ALWAYS AND 4 EVER!!!!
July 19, 2008 8:02 PM
 

theillseed said:

this is about...3-5 years late....but scathing nonetheless. i guess the youtube/soulja boy stuff has kept it alive
July 19, 2008 8:09 PM
 

QueensNY said:

UMM!!!! DAM GZA WHY IT TAKE SOO LONG TO RESPOND I THINK THIS COMES AT A GOOD TIME THOUGH 50'S RAP CAREER IS ABOUT OVER IN MY OPINION, T.O.S AINT SELLING LIKE HE PROBABLY THOUGH IT WOULD, BUT ON THE SAME NOTE 50 HAS TOO MUCH MONEY TO REALLY STOP HIM FROM EATING. IT MAY SOUND LIKE A CONTRADICTION BUT 50 MONEY IS TOO LONG THATS WHY HE CAN KILL CAREERS THE WAY HE DOES! GZA SAID SOME STUFF AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE 50 RESPOND BUT I DOUBT HE WILL, GZA NEEDS THE PUBLICITY MORE THAN HIM. I WANT THIS TO CONTINUE CAUSE IN THE LONG RUN BARS FOR BARS 50 WILL LOSE THE LYRICAL ASPECT BUT LOSE WHEN IT COMES TO MONEY!

F-CK GAY-UNIT, WITHOUT BUCK THIER NOTHING!
July 19, 2008 8:13 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

Whats up with all that "This is Allhiphop.com" mess in the background in some of the songs lately? Anyway, I heard it this morning. I don't know what to say about this. It's iight. not too weak but not that strong either.
July 19, 2008 8:28 PM
 

sneakerhead210 said:

he got him...i expect sum of yall to say dis is weak..i mean yall prolly thought hit em up by tupac wuz a good dis(totally overated)
July 19, 2008 8:29 PM
 

dry foot said:

Which one of those brothers had that line "I shoot a hole thru a 50 cent piece to test my aim"? Was it Gza or Deck?
July 19, 2008 8:31 PM
 

ThatOtherDude said:

THE GZA

sword sharp as ever.  lotta dudes out there really cant rock with grown man rhymes.  its a damn shame.  yo, if you say this is wack,










































































YOU WACK.
July 19, 2008 8:41 PM
 

Mr.Schultz said:

FIIRRRIEE!!! CROOKLYN!!! YALL SING SONG FAKES ASS HIP HOPPER SHUT THE FUCK UP! IF YOU GOT SOULJA BOY FLORIDA AND T PAIN IN YOUR IPOD HOW THE FUCK YOU GONNA UNDERSTAND REAL HIP HOP? NIGGAS KILL ME
July 19, 2008 8:45 PM
 

Hip Hop GM said:

Fuck these young novice ass rap critics. WU Tang Is in the building. Get at these corny ass niggas who think they can buy they way through the game. 50 use to be hard, till he started doing the same thing he accused Ja Rule of doing. Singing. That nigga is played out. Fuck Them Niggaz.
July 19, 2008 8:54 PM
 

Mr. Write said:

"You ever someone who roll with Mayweather, rhyme like Ricky Hatton?"

Good thing 50 is paid enough not to deal with this.....BUT, GZA went in on this.
July 19, 2008 8:59 PM
 

Epix said:

WAIT WAIT

IS YA'LL LISTENING TO SAME THING I AM?

"ITS HOT, ITS HOT"

W..T..F CHECK YOUR EARS. THAT WAS GARBAGE THAT GARBAGE THROWS THE F!%K AWAY.

DUDE WANTS SOME MEDIA AND PAPER.

I MAKE BETTER BEATS ON THE CURBS OF THE ROAD, FOR REAL. LOL
July 19, 2008 8:59 PM
 

BOSS TEX said:

Shit hard.  I'm still new to this east coast music.  It's not your "normal" shit out now that's easy to follow.

"I spray tha flea unit with pesticides
you can get all ya best ghost writers,
get 'em to testify"

then he ended with

"And I'll finish this, only cause I let off first,
wassup?"

He didn't come his hardest, guarantee it.  He's put this out to get 50 to respond, then he's going to take him apart, with or w/o the rest of the clan.
July 19, 2008 9:01 PM
 

weedman666 said:

im yust woundering where cypris hill,icp and necrou and ill bill at??
July 19, 2008 9:06 PM
 

hiphopjunkie3 said:

hah! GZA murdered that shit! "No matter what you still window shop for lyrics" REAL TALK. The WU vs. 50 is a no brainer. WU-TANG 4 life! \/\/
July 19, 2008 9:07 PM
 

T-ROC said:

THEILLESTTODOIT said:
"FOR ANYBODY IN HERE TRYING TO SAY THIS IS WEAK OBVIOUSLY IS CAUGHT IN THE SOULJAH BOY ERA......."

I agree how we going to forget the WU been spitting like this. WHAT we want him to do talk about jewelry and cars? THAT'S never been WU.

but, on the flip side damn he got an album...so its publicity for him. <<<now THAT makes him look weak but, lyrically it was WU track.
July 19, 2008 9:13 PM
 

Dose210east said:

yo this is fire, fuck wat ppl say. yall prolly rockin T.O.S as we speak. 50 will never be on the same level lyrically as Gza. fif got cake but so what! that doesnt make him the better. yea gza didnt respond till now but nobody aint checkin fif for not responding at all to scarface and z-ro for making a diss track at him. lol, even j prince was on the track! i even know bout when rap a lot was callin fif out at a hotel but never came out. but thats another story. maybe theres more verses to come on his album from this track? ima check it tho when it drops. hopefully this is a sign the wu is on the swarm....
July 19, 2008 9:14 PM
 

Smashit said:

First let me say I'm a BIG Wu fan from day one but his delivery is lacking what it takes to deliver a "diss track" plus this shit is out of the time zone - I mean why drop it now???

Next time ask Method to make the delivery then you'll have a hit!
July 19, 2008 9:20 PM
 

Smashit said:

He so mad at the RZA he trying to go at 50  lmao
July 19, 2008 9:21 PM
 

R!ON said:

I like GZA but this is mad weak.
July 19, 2008 9:27 PM
 

TheMotherFuckinTruth said:

I saw this shit on youtube and in the background this nigga hass the date his album coming out so theres your answer to why wait so late

Publicity Stunt

Plus this nigga just mad because last year when he dissed Soulja boy 50 said he was to old to be dissing a 16 year old
July 19, 2008 9:31 PM
 

King G said:

Mannn this shit was HOTTT....GARBAGE THAT IS. real talk, shit was whackkk as f*ck, and im tired of ya n*ggas sayin ''ohh if u think this is whackk then u prb. jammin to the t.o.s. album and this and that. nah n*gga, im not, this shit is whackk, plain and simple, i calls em like i sees em, and this is hot doo doo, i agree wit 50 when he said Gza isnt relevant, and i dont even fuck wit 50 like that, so dont get it twisted...u shmell meee
July 19, 2008 9:39 PM
 

Tha Legendary said:

It was nice, i'll jam it just cause..........but on the other hand when it comes to a 30 Cent diss nobody shut him down like Jadakiss
July 19, 2008 9:42 PM
 

anzee11 said:

All I know is 50 better not send shots at Ghostface Killah.
July 19, 2008 9:54 PM
 

$pyda said:

I like the Wu way back but this shit is garbage. Truthfully speaking if you're one of the cats in here praising this its just cause you hate 50. This wasnt anything to gloat about, just a weak diss coincidentally droppin near his album drop date. Nice one GZA.
July 19, 2008 9:56 PM
 

Duckman XL said:

TOS only did 100k the first week and its falling fast. 50 knows that his run is all but over. Who gives a fuck about G-Unit anymore? The Genius may not sell as much as him, but he is still around and he still do shows overseas (where the real $ is in) and still making music nearly 3 decades in the game. Which rapper can say that they have been rapping for 30 years and still do damn good shows overseas? 50's stans are the remaining people that 50 needs to call it quits. Even they are beginning to think that 50 needs to retire and call it a life. Nas ssold twice as much as 50 with an album that recieved little publicity.
July 19, 2008 9:57 PM
 

hiphopcritic said:

No body trying to here GZA. What happen to the Wu album!

WOOD!!

Now yall trying to hate on 50, to get on. Please! Make some hot songs first.

But I guest thats the only way to get money is to hate on 50 everybody else do. Because its so many fans hate on 50 cent they will support it.

I guest 50 doing something right! The more Successful u get the more haters you get.






"Whatz happin...... all you haters.... get at me,  

  I like to say.........  What UPPPPPP"





 
July 19, 2008 10:02 PM
 

DUBZ01 said:

if u think this is wack you're a tard...
honestly....
i don't even think gza was even trying that hard...
so lets see what happens.

wu-tang is legendary.. g unit's temporary.... 4real..

stop listenin to your gucci mane and your soulja boy.. and your 50 cent.. HA
July 19, 2008 10:04 PM
 

KNiGHTS said:

Some nice jabs, but the killer is always in the truth: 50's been sabotaging the best in his crew for a goddamn minute now.  Ain't no way Banks's production should've been this ass on two consecutive albums.
July 19, 2008 10:07 PM
 

HTX2DC said:

Who would win in a street fight?

WU TANG OR G-UNIT?

Who would win a battle tournament?

WU TANG OR G-UNIT?

I say the WU all day! G-Unit cant handle the WU's Shaolin...hahaha!
July 19, 2008 10:12 PM
 

dicedabney said:

A HATERS JOB:A HATERS JOB IS TO HATE ON A PERSON INTO THAT PERSON IS AS MESSED UP AS THE HATER....THATS Y 50'S MY NIGGA WHO ELSE U NO,THAT U CAN CRY TO AND GET MORE FAMOUS THAN U WHERE BE4 THEN......IF YOUR A RAPPER AND WANT MORE FANS HATE ON 50 BECAUSE PEOPLE WILL HOP ON YOUR DICK...PEOPLE R NOW CALL YOUNG BUCK THE 2 PAC OF THE SOUTH...ALL BECAUSE HE SAID FUCK G-UNIT....HATIN ON 50 CENT CAN EASLY GET YA 500,000, MORE FANS
July 19, 2008 10:16 PM
 

hiphopcritic said:

Fuck that 50 cent did more in his career in a short period of time then they did there whole career. Lets be real.

To be honest fuck Wu Tang they haven't given me anything new. The song say "what have you done for me lately" I'm not saying they not good but fuck them. They to busy getting high and drunk to make good music, and be on there business. 50 cent is consistent ever since he came out.  

Respect to Ghost, Method, Rza, Raekwon. Consistency

July 19, 2008 10:39 PM
 

BigBoyinBroward said:

I've been ridin' with Gza since his first solo album (pre Wu-Tang)....the lyrics are tight, the delivery is not, and the beat is fuckin' terrible.......

That being said, I know and anyone who knows Gza knows that this is far from his best bullet, so maybe its just to provoke 50, hopefully it works....

And yea, this was more of a job for Ghostface. There ain't many rappers fukin' with him...
July 19, 2008 10:43 PM
 

HTX2DC said:

Who would win in a street fight?

WU TANG OR G-UNIT?

Who would win a battle tournament?

WU TANG OR G-UNIT?

I say the WU all day! G-Unit cant handle the WU's Shaolin...hahaha!
July 19, 2008 10:53 PM
 

Freezy said:

I like Wu and 50 but I am old school so I consider a Wu head and think 50 is decent but man this isnt even worth 50's time for real
July 19, 2008 10:57 PM
 

chibi said:

This is almost deceptively weak.  Almost like Gza's baiting 50 to go at him and has something ready for him on some chess shit.

If this is the best Gza can do then he's fallen off.  He'll always have a classic and a couple near classics under his belt but this wasn't all that great.  The beat sounded like it was off of Soundclick.
July 19, 2008 11:00 PM
 

WHEREDAHATERSAT said:

the same mothafuckas who are saying this is wack are the same ones who think t.i. diss on shawty lo (what up) was fire lol gtfoh
July 19, 2008 11:04 PM
 

Willie_Dynamite said:

Nobody wants to see a 50 vs GZa beef. As a matter of fact nobody wants to hear either one of them.

@dicedabney

I'm from the south and nobody has ever called buck 2pac of the south. Niggaz down south been fucking with buck before he said fuck 50. It doesn't matter to us if he fuck with 50 or not!! We stop listening to 50 after Get Rich or Die trying.
July 19, 2008 11:21 PM
 

JDens said:

good shit, but i dont think 50 will respond..

check me out... http://myspace.com/jdens
July 19, 2008 11:26 PM
 

Butta Banks said:

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post some of my shit on here to blow these niggaz away

http://myspace.com/buttabanks1
July 19, 2008 11:27 PM
 

Queens4LIFE said:

.... does anyone really care....
July 19, 2008 11:32 PM
 

G BLACK516 said:

that shit fuckin sucks he needs to go kill his self then maybe he can sell some records  

July 19, 2008 11:33 PM
 

YungTalent said:

the beats raw but thats it
July 19, 2008 11:40 PM
 

jhovito said:

lol@ Realest

yea gza tryna put sum food on tha table. heard dat plug-in at tha end. this was weak and im a wu-head 2 death. aint no need. ghostface already got at him. wu just needa do wat they been doin n makin hits 4 tha slums. fuck beef. nukkas spit pain n sufferin in they rhymes.we feel it. tha streets know wat it is.

smh @ gza tryna stoop to 50 level. already see dude got no respect. u know gunit is done.


North side Stand Up!!!
July 19, 2008 11:56 PM
 

Thakid202 said:

I had 2 say something cuz ignorance pisses me off. RZA killed 50 no if ands or buts, yall dumb niggas to show some respect considering the fact that rza might rap better than your favorite rapper does, and has been doing so since ur dumb ass was shittin in pampers, as far as this money issue goes, RZA dont need it, he dont need 50 to sell records, he's going gold regardless, without a single and without a video. yeah his flow wasnt that "Im gonna kill you nigga type shit". he was just chillen and letting his words be his weapons and riding the beat. no diss to 50 but wtf, everybody knows dis nigga cant rap 4real. yea his shit bumps but rza is a genius on the microphone, i think 50 should just leave this alone and worry about dat nigga from cashville. cuz rza will win this battle, even if eminem and dr.dre come and save his ass like they did wit Ja. 50= commecial hip hop, Liquid Swords= real hip hop. u pick ur side
July 19, 2008 11:56 PM
 

Hulk said:

OK, hardcore Wu fan, but honestly I can't really give a shit about this so called battle (I won't call it beef). But, GZA came hard w/ the lyrics. He's so seasoned you can hear the laziness in the flow, but when you LISTEN....you hear the darts. I like it, but otherwise, who gives a fuck?
July 20, 2008 12:03 AM
 

Hulk said:

OK, hardcore Wu fan, but honestly I can't really give a shit about this so called battle (I won't call it beef). But, GZA came hard w/ the lyrics. He's so seasoned you can hear the laziness in the flow, but when you LISTEN....you hear the darts. I like it, but otherwise, who gives a fuck?
July 20, 2008 12:03 AM
 

Murk_CartelLaFa said:

PAY ATTENTION!

"You cant go to beef with 50 Cent....He will wreck your career and the rest of Wu's career...."

Wow! How can someone even think for a second that 50 Cent will end the Wu's career. He only ended Ja Rule, and honestly Rules career was going down the drain. LYRICALLY...you know the words people write in the songs....(im sorry people now & days might not know what that is) 50 Cent is below average and everything about Wu is above average lyrically. In a battle its all about lyrics. So GZA scarred him lyrically but it wasn't GZA's best work. 50 can't beat GZA. Just like 50 couldnt beat Nas or Jada. Which by the way I still see Nas making records and Jadakiss, shit even Fat Joe making records (although some wish he did'nt) So what makes you think he can end 8 members of the Wu-Tang Clan. 50 couldn't see Method Man if 50 was still on Colombia and Jam Master Jay resurected and became his manager again. Real talk homie. You must not know shit about lyricism or think it doesn't matter. Honestly in soundscan world, it don't. But when you battling its a whole different world.

So if 50 Cent sat in front of GZA and they ingaged in a lyrical hip-hop battle, you telling me 50 Cent would win. Or do you think cause 50 has money that after GZA spits a 3minute long verse, when its 50's turn, he just throws down a stack of 100's and walks off the battle without rapping, and he's victorous? Shit these days that wouldnt surprise me. 50 doesnt rhyme big words, or do concept songs, except the concept he stole from Nas. So if you have a brain capacity or knowledge of what multi-syllable rhyming or words that are bigger than 3 letters are, then you know that 50 Cent is nothing more than a over rated gritty new york rapper that got rich because of Eminem and his gimmick. He is a excellent entrepreneur and has a brillant marketing approach. So he is excellent at making money, but he isn't hungry no more.

So to say the Wu's career would be destroyed is a hilarious statement. Number 1 the Wu looks to be broken up, I mean U-God has police protection against RZA, so if they get back together...it will be 7 members unless they actually add in Cappadonna. Number 2, he couldnt see any member on the Wu Tang Clan by themselves, and he couldnt fuck with Method Man if 50 hired the best ghostwriters in the world. LMAO at that statement.

Oh and just to refresh ya memory, he's dissin 50 cause 50 cracked on him, saying he's too old to rap and he made up words like "optimus popptimus microscope". So lyrically its 1-0 GZA. Shit 50 hasnt scored a point since the murder inc beef. Fuck it go grab Lloyd Banks and ask LL for some advice cause your lyrics can only win now. Fuck your money stacks, or how much Vitamin water you sold, spit lyrics, thats what you need in this battle, lyrics. So in this battle i'll end it with a quote from Joe Budden.

"Fuck how your glock pop off, how your block not soft/you going now where fast being a Lox knock off"
July 20, 2008 12:06 AM
 

Intelekt said:

This was aright. Nothing crazy. The delivery was weak, but lyrically it was iller than any dissing 50 ever did. Will 50 respond? Doubt it. Will he even care or ever hear the track? Also, I doubt it. Sorry GZA. Wu-Tang is great, no disrespect, but this seems kinda pointless to me.

Besides, 50's career is dying a slow death anyway. Curtis beat by Graduation, TOS flops like a wet noodle, ... You heard the Busta song "Legend of the Fall Offs?" If 50 keeps trying to come out with more albums, you might as well dedicate that song to him. I like 50 too, well, his music. I'm just sick of his bully attitude, and he needs to be taught a lesson.

Best 50 diss EVER goes to JADAKISS.
July 20, 2008 12:11 AM
 

Redd-i said:

"I shoot a hole in a 50 cent piece to test my aim"...
That was Masta Killah


Beat is weak and flow is lazy but he spittin.  "spray the flee unit wit pesticides"...then he threatening him and basiclly lettin him know that behind the cameras is't like thousands of Wu affiliates and followers that could follow him home, hoppin out on some black hooded timberland footed ninja shit.  

"Move like a Fed but talk like a mobster"... GZA is sayin slick shit line after line.  I feel that, it's just he need a career ovehaul and a fresh new producer that can capture the essence of Wu tang music but to a new millineum type vibe.

This is not enough to win new fans but every liquid swords holder would fill this.  I feel it cause when you cut the beat off and strip everything down to the pen and pad, in black and white GZA is much sicker than 50.  And if GZA is okay with gettin by in that lane than more power to him for doing what he wanna do in life.  As far as the music industry andbeing a well rounded artist.  He gone have to come wit harder beatz and step up his enthusiasm.  And it would hurt to hit the weight room and maybe get a shape up and leave that wack ass mark ecko gear alone.  Yea we still on Coogi and Girbauds in the D but anyway that's Xtra.  

I still fuck wit both on different levels.  50 got some shit but he still a fuckin Prom queen to me.  After that buck shit he just let his inner girly mouth surface.  I can't respect no nigga tappin phone conversations like this the wire or something and that's suposed to be ya manz.
And niggas not goin plat off me.  I'm just not that inspired to buy anything anymore.
July 20, 2008 12:15 AM
 

Kaliq Allah said:

GZA can't be fucked with.  No one in the industry can fuck with anybody from the Wu Clan, be it north south east or west.  Yall been brainwashed with the garbage thats been put out over your radio waves and sold in the stores.  GZA wasn't even goin hard on this track, and if you really care about how the beat sounded then you really don't know shit about hip hop.  Truth is, the mainstream has never been ready for the Wu and never will be.  So for all you 85s thats not really feelin this, stop eatin that pork and get knowledge of self.  Peace    
July 20, 2008 12:18 AM
 

The Kronical said:

GZA never disappoints in any way.  People underestimate him too much, not really allowing themselves the chance to listen to his words closely and feel what he is saying.  Protools is going to be fire!!

Oh, and by the way...I know it's late, but 50 GOT BODIED HARD!!!
July 20, 2008 12:23 AM
 

Intelekt said:

LOL at thakid202. RZA, dog?? And you talkin about ignorance LMAO I hope that was just... a lot of type-o's. Show the G-Z-A some respect. GZA. GZA GZA GZA. lol

@ Murk: That's an ill Joe Budden line. What'd he spit that in?
July 20, 2008 12:23 AM
 

SeymoreCakes75 said:

this shit is garbage
July 20, 2008 12:31 AM
 

DatBoricua23 said:

This wasn't as good as he was hyping it up to be all this time. And is it just me or does 75% of Wu Tang suck anyway? Method Man, Redman, and GFK are the only good ones. Just because they've been around for a long time doesn't necessarily mean they're good. I'm just saying...
July 20, 2008 12:37 AM
 

wESt up 213 said:


THEILLESTTODOIT said:
FOR ANYBODY IN HERE TRYING TO SAY THIS IS WEAK OBVIOUSLY IS CAUGHT IN THE SOULJAH BOY ERA.I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU.AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED GZA DESTROYED HIM WITH THAT ONE VERSE.A SEASONED VET. FOR THOSE THAT KNOW THE HISTORY THE BEEF STARTED WITH 50'S HOW TO ROB.THEN THEY DID THE CLYDE SKIT ON GHOST'S ALBUM.AND THAT'S WHAT STARTED THE G-UNIT NAME.GHOST HAD THE THEODORE UNIT AND 50 RESPONDED TO THEM ON THE WU BEAT SPITTING G-UNIT TNIGGA THAT'S WHATS UP.THE REST IS HISTORY THE BEEF WAS CREATED.EVEN 50 GOTTA ADMIT GZA CAME HARD ON THIS ONE MUCH PROPS TO THE WU.THEY NEED TO SHOOT A ILL VIDEO FOR THIS JOINT WITH ALL THE CLAN IN IT.THIS ONE JOINT WILL BRING WU BACK TO THE FOREFRONT.GZA FUCK THAT CAPATALIZE OFF THE BEEF EVERYBODY ELSE DOES.AND NOTICE HOW HE STRUCK WHEN 50 APPEARS TO BE AT HIS LOWEST SMART MOVES.YO GZA IF YOU DO A VIDEO YOU NEED TO HAVE GAME AND BUCK IN THERE.WOW MAN DOWN IT'S A WRAP
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

I FEEL YOU BRUH, I CO SIGN THAT.ESPECIALLY THE LINE ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO THINK IS WEAK IS FROM THE SOULJHA BOY ERA.GZA IS THE TRUE DEFINITION OF A MC AND 50 IS JUST A RAPPER,HUGE DIFFERENCE! 50 CANT C THE GENIUS BAR FOR BAR. YEA 50 GOT MORE PAPER BUT WHAT DOES THAT MATTER WHEN YOU AINT GOT THE RESPECT OF YOUR FELLOW PEERS. THIS SONG IS HEAT. I JUST WANT TO HEAR METH GO AT DUDE..CURTAINS!
July 20, 2008 12:51 AM
 

wESt up 213 said:


Murk_CartelLaFa said:
PAY ATTENTION!

"You cant go to beef with 50 Cent....He will wreck your career and the rest of Wu's career...."

Wow! How can someone even think for a second that 50 Cent will end the Wu's career. He only ended Ja Rule, and honestly Rules career was going down the drain. LYRICALLY...you know the words people write in the songs....(im sorry people now & days might not know what that is) 50 Cent is below average and everything about Wu is above average lyrically. In a battle its all about lyrics. So GZA scarred him lyrically but it wasn't GZA's best work. 50 can't beat GZA. Just like 50 couldnt beat Nas or Jada. Which by the way I still see Nas making records and Jadakiss, shit even Fat Joe making records (although some wish he did'nt) So what makes you think he can end 8 members of the Wu-Tang Clan. 50 couldn't see Method Man if 50 was still on Colombia and Jam Master Jay resurected and became his manager again. Real talk homie. You must not know shit about lyricism or think it doesn't matter. Honestly in soundscan world, it don't. But when you battling its a whole different world.

So if 50 Cent sat in front of GZA and they ingaged in a lyrical hip-hop battle, you telling me 50 Cent would win. Or do you think cause 50 has money that after GZA spits a 3minute long verse, when its 50's turn, he just throws down a stack of 100's and walks off the battle without rapping, and he's victorous? Shit these days that wouldnt surprise me. 50 doesnt rhyme big words, or do concept songs, except the concept he stole from Nas. So if you have a brain capacity or knowledge of what multi-syllable rhyming or words that are bigger than 3 letters are, then you know that 50 Cent is nothing more than a over rated gritty new york rapper that got rich because of Eminem and his gimmick. He is a excellent entrepreneur and has a brillant marketing approach. So he is excellent at making money, but he isn't hungry no more.

So to say the Wu's career would be destroyed is a hilarious statement. Number 1 the Wu looks to be broken up, I mean U-God has police protection against RZA, so if they get back together...it will be 7 members unless they actually add in Cappadonna. Number 2, he couldnt see any member on the Wu Tang Clan by themselves, and he couldnt fuck with Method Man if 50 hired the best ghostwriters in the world. LMAO at that statement.

Oh and just to refresh ya memory, he's dissin 50 cause 50 cracked on him, saying he's too old to rap and he made up words like "optimus popptimus microscope". So lyrically its 1-0 GZA. Shit 50 hasnt scored a point since the murder inc beef. Fuck it go grab Lloyd Banks and ask LL for some advice cause your lyrics can only win now. Fuck your money stacks, or how much Vitamin water you sold, spit lyrics, thats what you need in this battle, lyrics. So in this battle i'll end it with a quote from Joe Budden.

"Fuck how your glock pop off, how your block not soft/you going now where fast being a Lox knock off"
----------------------------------------------------------------------

OMG!!! my dude just took this kid to school!!
preach on my brotha!!!

co sign 100%
July 20, 2008 12:57 AM
 

Ill Duce said:

ummm redman isnt wu...  just like a distant cousin lmao...  anyway... gza is that dude but i couldnt even pay attention to this shit... the chef would have killed this shit...  Raekwon come out and play ma nigga!
July 20, 2008 1:03 AM
 

Spokensound said:

Let's be real about this track.  

The Beat:
Typical Wu beat.  Simple if you're a Wu you can appreciate it.  It not hot by any means.  

The Lyrics:
The delivery is traditional GZA.  He has some lines here, but nothing to drop your jaw at.

The Intent:
To sell his record.  The obvious plug at the end and the All-Hip-Hop drop in the middle.  

Bottom Line:
I have CD's from both these dudes.  I tried to get into 50"s tracks but they didn't move me.  GZA hasn't made anything I wanted to buy in like 10 or 11 years. (whenever Liquid Swords dropped.)  I seriously hope GZA is putting is shark fin above the water on this joint b/c I really think he can do better that this.  I'm also curious to see if 50 will respond too.  
July 20, 2008 1:14 AM
 

MC_such_and_such said:

co sign
THEILLESTTODOIT & west up

not saying this is Ether, but its on point...Wu all day...those cats who said this was weak were probably the same ones who thought canibus 2nd Round KO was weak...

Gza doesnt just have a rap career, he has a legacy. Thats what he's proving here.
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July 20, 2008 1:19 AM
 

Cmacjb said:

Pretty good diss record any body in here saying its wack needs to stop listening to Soulja Boy and open their ears to real Hip Hop.
July 20, 2008 1:38 AM
 

FonzoEscobar said:

u crazy if u think dis was weak
July 20, 2008 1:47 AM
 

Mikeone33 said:

Sure 50 may be falling off but that doesn't mean this isn't pure garbage. You could not take out Spider Loc with these weak ass punch lines.

Wu - Tang fell off 10 years ago, there is a reason why they are not hot. Most of them never changed up their style. This is the same GZA style that he spit 15 years ago on Words from the Genius inluding the same bland beats.

Bring your style up. Hell Ghostface did it, that's why he is still hot.
July 20, 2008 2:09 AM
 

UnDefyned said:

"You still window shop for lyrics..."

GZA is still the deadliest killa bee in the Clan
July 20, 2008 2:14 AM
 

Mikeone33 said:

That's a weak ass punchline. How to rob all those years ago destroyed this song

hit the studios take shit and leave
Catch Rae Ghost and RZA for them funny ass rings
Tell Sticky gimme the cash before I empty three
Ill beat your ass like that white boy on MTV

Now those punchlines hurt cause they are true. Stupid RZA spike rings he wore and then when Sticky got beat up on MTV on that boxing match by that skateboarder
July 20, 2008 2:22 AM
 

Mikeone33 said:

"Pretty good diss record any body in here saying its wack needs to stop listening to Soulja Boy and open their ears to real Hip Hop."

I really dislike you stuck up "true hip hop" heads. You're the ones destroying hip hop, Not Soulja Boy.
July 20, 2008 2:29 AM
 

MC_such_and_such said:

@mikeone

talking about the rings? thats it? that was funny at best...thats all 50 is...funny...if Im looking for a laugh..I'll throw some dave chapelle...if I want to see pussy..I'll wake my girl up...If i want to listen to some hiphop...I'll listen to Wu...

Wu, jada, fat joe, jada, game, buck, lil kim, scarface..rapalot, nas, some shots from jay, kurupt, etc...has had better disses...than 50's...piggy bank..ur serious? I kinda hope 50 come back with something so GZA, and wu can really get at him...

just take this joint as a warning shot..

peace...
July 20, 2008 2:48 AM
 

v4vendetta said:

This just in: BREAKING NEWS!
50 cent just purchased the exclusive rights to GZA's soul!!
The deal is said to include all of his physical as well.

We out!
July 20, 2008 3:07 AM
 

MacDaKnive said:

yea 50 betta b careful, these is real mcs comin after him. u come at gza u might hav 2 c da whole clan, n dem niggas is bigger than jus da 7 or 8 mcs on cds w/ him. plus gza is chipped up. he aint broke like young buck.

but i dont if raekwon or ghostface get involved them niggas will make 50 look a foo in 4 bars each.
July 20, 2008 3:13 AM
 

gimisumo said:

attention jock riders 50 and g=unit's ish don't sell anymore you can now safely remove their c*cks from your mouths.


and oh yeah the shit was hot.
July 20, 2008 3:20 AM
 

Mikeone33 said:

"yea 50 betta b careful, these is real mcs comin after him. u come at gza u might hav 2 c da whole clan, n dem niggas is bigger than jus da 7 or 8 mcs on cds w/ him. plus gza is chipped up. he aint broke like young buck.

but i dont if raekwon or ghostface get involved them niggas will make 50 look a foo in 4 bars each."

This is stupid, how is Wu Tang going to join together to battle 50 cent when they can't even get along?

Aren't they too busy stalking U-God or trashing RZA's name?
July 20, 2008 3:23 AM
 

Dose210east said:

Mikeone33 said: You could not take out Spider Loc with these weak ass punch lines.

im LMAO on a unapologetic slut waiting for seconds...hahaha


July 20, 2008 3:29 AM
 

KING NIP 415 said:

50 SPITS WEAK SHIT AND TALKS ON TRACKS GOING ON AND ON LIKE A BITCH. WU-TANG KEEPS IT PRETTY GUTTER. 50 WILL BE BREAKING UP THE UNIT WITHIN 6 MONTHS. HIM AND YAYO WILL CONTINUE BEING HOMO TOGETHER THOUGH. ALL THAT DOUGH AND SECURITY DOESN'T MEAN 50 CAN'T BE TOUCHED SOONER OR LATER HE GONNA GET CAUGHT SLIPPIN. HE NEED TO JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP. AND WHOEVER THE FUCK SAID HIT EM UP WAS A WEAK DIS TRACK IS A REAL PRICK. MUST BE SOME EASTCOAST BIASED FUCK CUZ PAC MURDERED BIG ON THAT SHIT.
July 20, 2008 3:38 AM
 

Get@PRO!!! said:

This shit was toilet juice... straight up flop n splash.. what line can u even say was effective??

Liquid swords!

..that shit was classick... paper plates was gawd awfull in ways music shouldnt even be.. i battle.. an im pretty sure alotta ppl. that do.. will tell you.. GZA drop sum garbage truck juice..

July 20, 2008 4:10 AM
 

Mikeone33 said:

@  
MC_such_and_such said:

I didn't even quote "Piggy Bank", I quoted "How to rob". Which a few years ago everyone on this site would have said was real hip hop.

I swear these days anyone will consider someone true hip hop if they fell off, or have a lack of sales.

How long will "Keeping it gutter" pay the bills?

This isn't warning shots, this is attempt at a long lost MC trying to get some shine back.

GZA is the "Ice T" flavor of the week.

All those "better" disses you quoted are also better than this garbage.

Since you are Mr. Hip Hop, listen to a real "Hip Hop" diss : Linda Tripp by El - P and you will see a career ender.
July 20, 2008 4:17 AM
 

Mikeone33 said:

Don't get me wrong, I like Wu- Tang

I owned every single Wu CD from Words from the Genius and that corny Rza prince rakeem record all the way to Wu- Renegades and Wu tang killa bees.

But man GZA this song sucked bad.
July 20, 2008 4:20 AM
 

HTOWNMEX said:

DAMN FUCK G-UNIT
July 20, 2008 4:41 AM
 

Khdafi said:

i dont care what anyone say,  50 is garbage.    all it takes for a NY  nigga to go platinum is for the population of Manhattan to buy your cd,  thats not saying anything.  although i think his chick wronged him and the bitch can sleep in a box, his music is still crap. the fact is this....   Scarface dropped on him... No response,  Wu dropped on him... he wont say shit.    He'll pick on a little dude (ja) or he pick on fatboy (joe)  but anyone who can smoke him, we aint got shit to say to.  Dude is just a joke.  his 1st cd was hot but then he started to think he was the shit and not respect his elders...  and thats when he became a bitch  in my eyes.   it be intresting if for one release all the people who just buy his record to see what hes going to say, didnt buy it... and left just the "fans" to buy it...  we see how many he sell... IMO     Tech N9ne > 50 cent  anyday

July 20, 2008 6:16 AM
 

Mikeone33 said:

Um.. He already dissed Gza, and Wu-Tang. Scarface didn't diss 50 cent he was talking about Lil Troy.
July 20, 2008 6:32 AM
 

BeanTown71 said:

beat is fire, he slowed his flow down so you pay attention to every word he is spitting
July 20, 2008 7:14 AM
 

johny brubacker said:

this is weak and i been a wu fan since 36 chambers. its definately not a careeer ending diss.
July 20, 2008 8:10 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

put this shit on another beat, and its fire

beat dont go.

everybody that sayin he comin at 50 late.

think about the random beefs your boy 50 starts with everybody when its convenient for him.

lot of people drinkin that 50 kool aid.


i mean vitamin water...
July 20, 2008 8:13 AM
 

Icewater Jones said:

Damn, I see it's plenty of you niggas still plugged in to the Matrix... Not only is that shit far from wack, but it's far from GZA's legendary potent capabilities. In other words, this is just a bee sting, and no matter how pissed off you get after being stung, nobody is stupid enough to go after the hive. I don't think 50 knows this, and therefore is not prepared for the impending swarm to follow.

Don't any of you niggas understand that if 50 persists not only will he lose
***************YES, HE WILL LOSE!!!****************
...but he will actually sell records for the WU!!! Part of the reason Kanye outsold his ass is because (A): People that were new to Kanye wanted to see what 50 was so worried about, and thus bought Graduation to compare, and (B): Those don't like 50 probably weren't gonna by Kanye in the first place, bought it anyway, just to slight Curtis. SMH.

Besides all this, I have trouble understanding the following for a well-known snitch in a sports bra. What is so fucking gangsta about a shooting victim? Or maybe I should be shook as well??? I should probably watch what I say about 50 or he'll tap my phone too! OOOOHHHHH... chilling, isn't it? 50's real beef should be with Lil' Wayne, seeing as how he is muscling in on the homosexual market that 50 has been running the past couple of years. No more 'Candy Shop', its all about 'Lollipop' now Curtis!
July 20, 2008 8:18 AM
 

Mikeone33 said:

How many times do I have to tell you.
You don't have to be a fan of 50 cent to know this diss song sucks.

July 20, 2008 8:53 AM
 

Realestnicca said:

Why would fif even respond.  This old head waited 10yrs to diss.  Why all these cats that he dissed years ago just now responding (Nas, GZA, ect)  And how is he at his lowest when, even though TOS didn't sell as expected, Ghostface (of WU TANG)  only sold like 35000 the first week.  Face it.  Wu is not relevant anymore.  This is their last desparate attempt to sell units.  50  won't respond so noody will even pay attention.  Cube said it, "when 50 talks, people listen" he won't talk about Wu so who will listen?
July 20, 2008 9:04 AM
 

Realestnicca said:

@Icewater Jones

I keep hearing people call 50 a snitch, usually it's the same people that co sign TI and Rick Ross.  Tell me, who did he snitch on?  And yes, the HATERS love to see him loose since he been winning so long so they went and bought that wack ass Graduation CD (Don't worry, I fell for it too.  I bought that wack shit) That's why Kanye outsold him (only in the states, not WORLDWIDE)  Don't get me wrong, I like Kanye but Graduation was some wack shit.  Late registration was way better.
July 20, 2008 9:10 AM
 

nercity07 said:

I don't know why people are compairing money and record sales to a diss record. It's the same reason why a lot of people didn't hear Common's "The Bitch in You" or Mobb Deep's "La La". disses towards heavy weights back in the day.

Now don't get me wrong this song by Gza isn't "The Bitch in You" caliber song but it's not that bad.

G-Unit is through. Their reign is over and the worse thing they could have ever done is let Buck & Game go. We won't hear about G-Unit 8-10 years from now, but the Wu has been around for like 15 years, good and bad they still can rock a show, still have legendary members and people still check for the new songs.

G-Unit will never be considered a super group like the Wu. Just a group that caked up on one great record Get Rich or Die Trying. After that....The Game's first album & Maybe the First G-Unit Album (Plus also maybe the Soundtrack) is all the G-Unit has that was quality. The rest TRASH. Now compair that to the Wu's discography...TKO.

Wu > G Unit
July 20, 2008 9:19 AM
 

anandalewis said:

First I want to say something to Thakid202. Do you even know what you are talking about you need to read the story you sitting here talking about RZA when RZA wasnt the one dissing it is GZA stupid. I be thinking sometimes that people are on here saying stuff just to be saying it. Thakid202 probably trying to fit in with everyone else talking about RZA when its GZA that is the subject. Get yo facts straight before you start talking about who got money. And on that note, I really don't think 50 would respond to do because it is weak and 50 only focus on rapper and diss rappers who actually make hits. I mean come on when was the last time GZA mad an album. Why you think 50 don't diss da Game no more. Da Game havent made a hit since the last time he did an album with 50. The game career is over, Buck career is over, Ja Rule career is over, Fat Joe career is over. Especially Fat Joe, is album only sold about $70000 copies its first week. Now that's weak. Everybody trying to dog 50 but 50 is doing big things. Movies, water, commercials now, you name it. He is a business man and 50 know is rap career is over thats why he is moving on to movies. I really don't think 50 have time to diss a nobody like GZA
July 20, 2008 9:22 AM
 

hater hurter said:

this is not what a diss should sound like. get the hell outta here with this weak shit. get some better beats or sit down and step them lines up cuz wasnt none of them good enough to get his attention. wu is fallin off with them corny beats they use. I use to love them now im bored with them.
July 20, 2008 9:49 AM
 

BigBoyinBroward said:

LMAO @  
anandalewis

Why you think 50 don't diss da Game no more. Da Game havent made a hit since the last time he did an album with 50. The game career is over



hahaha.......i guess u ain't heard the Doctor's Advocate.......that shit's only like the best West Coast album in the last 15 years.......haha
July 20, 2008 10:22 AM
 

T.M.F said:

IT AINT ALL ABOUT HITS AND MONEY...AND TO ALL WHO SAID THIS WAS WACK ERASE YA ACCOUNT! @ HATER HURTER WHAT  U MEAN STEP YA LINES UP..MAYBE U SHOULD LISTEN AGAIN
July 20, 2008 11:12 AM
 

HESAVEDME said:

This is madd late and worst of all its clearly a stunt.  He shouts out his new record and label at the end?? Come on B that's corny.  The diss is aite he should done this immediately not 15yrs later and he coulda def come harder but its cool.
July 20, 2008 11:33 AM
 

will rap 4 food said:

the lyrics were raw,gave 50 something to think about..but the only problem i have is his delivery sounded like he just woke up and shpit this,like he didnt give a fuck,then again why should gza give a fuck about 50....overall i think this could be better if his delivery was different...and im a huge wu-tang fan so yeah
July 20, 2008 11:34 AM
 

bknewstash said:

Shyne-For the record
Best 50 cent diss
The best diss record of all-time
50 never mentioned shyne's name after that
July 20, 2008 11:35 AM
 

paradyme said:

BOOOO? & GARBAGE?......GZA's flow is straight cyanide. Dude raps his verses like it's nothing over a simple WU laced track. Hey and that's the GENIUS of it. GZA's just throwing his hat in the ring to let dude know...he's lettin off a warning shot. Hey I'm proud of 50 Cent and his financial success but dude is truly a paper tiger who lyrically can't fuck with GZA if he came with G-UNIT and few ghost writers. Money allows 50 Cent to ignore the bait we all just heard but that does not damper or dismiss the truth you heard from GZA. And to those hecklers who post senseless babble, know who's who in HIP-HOP. Before all this Jingle Jangle shit you hear today there was and still is a culture at the root of HIP-HOP and their lies the MC who's above the rapper at all times. Go bust a dance move Yoooouuu....suckers. Yall young cats are being robbed of the essence of HIP-HOP culture. Where's the poetic talent? Nothing but weak ass jingle tracks to synthesized voices along with bull shit fashion. This is all done to make white America comfortable and accepting of the HIP-HOP culture (A-none threat). Wake the fuck up!!!!!!!
July 20, 2008 11:35 AM
 

bknewstash said:

pure cracc u deaf niggas
July 20, 2008 11:40 AM
 

HESAVEDME said:

This is madd late and worst of all its clearly a stunt.  He shouts out his new record and label at the end?? Come on B that's corny.  The diss is aite he should done this immediately not 15yrs later and he coulda def come harder but its cool.
July 20, 2008 11:41 AM
 

HESAVEDME said:

This is madd late and worst of all its clearly a stunt.  He shouts out his new record and label at the end?? Come on B that's corny.  The diss is aite he should done this immediately not 15yrs later and he coulda def come harder but its cool.
July 20, 2008 11:42 AM