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Kanye, MTV Address Iraq War

Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:03 PM | 49 comments
By Tai Saint Louis

MTV’s “Choose or Lose ‘08” campaign has tapped Kanye West as the latest ally to aid in its efforts to bring awareness to the issues faced by young veterans of the ongoing conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

In a new special set to air Monday (Jul 28) at 10pm, West will join MTV personality Sway Calloway to bring the stories of three returning vets as they adjust to life back home.

 

“Choose or Lose & Kanye West Present: Homecoming” brings viewers along as Sway and Kanye surprise Tirann Laws, Shameeka Gray and Lorenzo Zarate by visiting their homes to thank them for their service in the war in Iraq.

 

“I know my music inspires and helps a lot of people but you can always do more,” said West. “I teamed up with MTV and took the opportunity to share the spotlight with these veterans and hear their stories. I went to their homes to listen and get their first hand experiences. I wanted to hear their stories.

 

“There are hundreds of veterans out there who are falling through the cracks,” adds the multi-platinum Grammy Award-winning rapper and producer. “They make the ultimate sacrifices for us by laying down their lives, but it seems like a lot of them just get forgotten about.”

 

During the hour-long “Homecoming” special, Sway and Kanye will present the three spotlighted vets with a very special gift on behalf of MTV and the Dr. Donda West Foundation, paying off debts and taking care of rents and tuitions.

 

Laws, Gray and Zarate were chosen to represent a diverse cross-section of the more than 1.7 million young people who have fought in Iraq and Afghanistan to date.

 

In addition to sharing their struggles, “Homecoming” aims to encourage viewers to get involved, highlighting the many resources available at Chooseorlose.com and through the Donda West Foundation.

 

The Chooseorlose.com is also a portal for viewers to interact directly with the “Homecoming” special.

 

“The stories of the veterans from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are important and worth telling.” said MTV News and Production Executive VP Dave Sirulnick. “In conversations with veterans over the last year, it became clear that Kanye’s music is used by soldiers in Iraq as a way of connecting to home. Once these veterans return home, their stories are so moving that you can't help but want to do the right thing and help them out."

 

Since 1992, the Emmy-Award winning Choose or Lose campaign has worked to not only inform young people on the political issues that matter to them most, but also to support and encourage young voters to take action.

 

In 2004, the campaign inspired nearly 22 million 18-30 year olds to register and vote.


Comments

 

The Galboy said:

anyway.shout-out from senegal
July 23, 2008 9:10 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

Thats a good look for Ye. You know he is gonna keep it real in these kinda subjects. I will check it out.
July 23, 2008 9:12 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

BUSH DON'T CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE!

DAMN I HOPE HE SAY THAT SHIT AGAIN
July 23, 2008 9:15 PM
 

International said:

propz to Kanyeezy
July 23, 2008 9:20 PM
 

Cabana da Don said:

Props and props on his photoshop he looks pale and close to death lol.
July 23, 2008 9:26 PM
 

thehustler07 said:

"Props and props on his photoshop he looks pale and close to death lol."

that's mean as hell!!!! lmao


************HipHopStan.com*******************
July 23, 2008 9:45 PM
 

ufeelme209 said:

yeezy doin some good thats awesome, i met dude in like 03 b4 he was big @ audiotistic he was coo even took a flick wit em(stanish lol) but please quit wit the autotune stuff please.
July 23, 2008 9:55 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

lol Cabana you a fool for that.
July 23, 2008 9:56 PM
 

The Trill said:

Big ups to Kanye for doing this.
July 23, 2008 10:03 PM
 

kyle403 said:

WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT THIS FAGGOT HAS TO SAY KAYNES A WHINEY SAPPY BITCH.
July 23, 2008 10:17 PM
 

edit said:

I thought Kanye was all done with MTV after not being able to open the award show or somethin last year. lol.


http://www.soundclick.com/dafurst
July 23, 2008 10:18 PM
 

Professor Knowledge said:

Kanye had Mike Meyers (Austin Powers) and Chris Tucker shook

watch the clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIUzLpO1kxI

July 23, 2008 10:26 PM
 

BLACKDOVE said:

This niggas a pussy. He try to act like the shit he says can change the world but when he said bush dont like black people he said it all scary like and shit. We need a muthafucka to speak for us but this nigga is to soft. He take that MLK route but we need the MALCOM OR HUEY P approach at this point. And even with that said the government aint changing shit no matter whos in charge mccain,obama,osama, whoever its all gonna be the same. As they say IT WAS WRITTEN. CHECK UR SCRIPTURES!!!!
July 23, 2008 10:39 PM
 

Lebanon said:

If you stupid enough to join the army and go to war with  people who ain't do nothing to you than you deserve to fall in between the cracks.

Now you want me to care and sympathize with you, after you been used by the government to occupy other people and make their lives misreable.

What about the Iraqis falling through the cracks because of the US war or are American lives worth more.

Blame yourself for trying to make it in life by oppressing other people and being used as cannon fodder by the US gov't.
July 23, 2008 10:41 PM
 

Cabana da Don said:

NIGGAS DONE FUCKED UP HIS MAKE UP THIS NIGGA SOFT.
July 23, 2008 11:04 PM
 

Cabana da Don said:

THIS NIGGA IS THE LIVING PROOF OF THE "PALE HORSE" ok I'll stop.
July 23, 2008 11:10 PM
 

vega_diamond said:

hold on fool !!!!!! people attacked the US and we are supposed to sit by and chill?????? get the fuck out of here. thats like getting beat up iin your own house.... lame ass dudes who are opposing the war what happens when we pull out , look like we lost, and then open ourselves to attack????? then you wont even have the freedom to sit here and type. these people who attacked us are vowing to do it again!!!!!!!! then you have nerve to flip on the people who are fighting to protect your sorry asses?
July 23, 2008 11:10 PM
 

vega_diamond said:

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Youre overrate Chamilionare Diss


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http://www.myspace.com/starrscream now listen to my shit!!!!!


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http://www.myspace.com/starrscream now listen to my shit!!!!!


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http://www.myspace.com/starrscream now listen to my shit!!!!!


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http://www.myspace.com/starrscream now listen to my shit!!!!!


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July 23, 2008 11:11 PM
 

Lebanon said:

vega you don't attack people who didn't attack you.

The Iraqis didn't attack America.

If you punch me do i punch some random dude because you punched me?

July 23, 2008 11:15 PM
 

DC CA$HVILLE said:

In my opinion, i think MTV wants Kanye to have  a "George Bush doesn't care about black people" moment, but Kanye is not going to give it to them.  Anyway, it is a good look for Kanye and hip-hop.

Peace and more hair grease,

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
July 24, 2008 12:29 AM
 

willie falcone said:

Is that you George???

lol@ vega saying the Iraqi's attacked us.
July 24, 2008 12:37 AM
 

tha starr said:

lol @ Cabanda..y'all go to 5michiphopclub.com where a lot of IC posters is now @ least until the message board here comes back up
July 24, 2008 1:33 AM
 

MSTR_KRFT said:

We're not at war with Iraq, we're at war with the terrorists there. We are helping Iraqi people. They have women voting, attending schools, driving, not being afraid to leave the house. Dont any of you against the war know any of this? Sure we have had to sacrifice some people (including a great friend of mine) but overall this will help the middle east become somewhat normal compared to what it was before we went over there.

Read up before you hate on it
July 24, 2008 2:05 AM
 

The Galboy said:

before counceling about sex in relationships try to fuck ur wife right!!!dakar-senegal in the building!
July 24, 2008 2:18 AM
 

DC CA$HVILLE said:

MSTR_KRFT said:
We're not at war with Iraq, we're at war with the terrorists there. We are helping Iraqi people. They have women voting, attending schools, driving, not being afraid to leave the house. Dont any of you against the war know any of this? Sure we have had to sacrifice some people (including a great friend of mine) but overall this will help the middle east become somewhat normal compared to what it was before we went over there.

Read up before you hate on it

@McCain supporter

Shut up and go somewhere else with that spin.  Republican websites will do you much better.

Peace and more hair grease,

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
July 24, 2008 3:06 AM
 

K.Karisma said:

A little too late, enough people already died.


Why not cover how it is for the civilians livin in Iraq?


Don't worry, everybody's pullin out..once that Black Gold's gone that is..
July 24, 2008 7:25 AM
 

SneakrGeek said:

I dont support the war ...but i support our troops ....thats 1st. I dont even have anyone i know over there ...but they still get my support ...they want to serve in our armed forces then more power to them ...I think this whole war is awful. This is te only war that has not stimulated our Economy. We go over there for oil and gas prices go UP ... the poor getting poorer (and people sign up for war. check the numbers 3 out of 4 soldiers come from rough areas or not so great backrounds) and the rich get richer (Exxon, major military weapons companies ) ....so dont hand me the Bullshit sayin we over there helping people. People in America need help right now
July 24, 2008 8:05 AM
 

vega_diamond said:

every time I go to the gas station, im attacked....lol.


July 24, 2008 8:27 AM
 

NightFall914 said:

WOW @ some of these comments.....

I have enough debates on this war without taking it to allhiphop but I'll say this.The middle east has been at war with itself for a few thousands years in one form or another.If anyone thinks that peace is coming thru democracy anytime soon your delusional.
July 24, 2008 8:56 AM
 

Tyger0 said:

I can't believe the stuff Im reading on here right now. Forget whether you agree with the war or not. This is about helping people in need here in the US. The same thing most of those complainers were crying about in the past. Big up to Kanye. I don't agree with everything he does or says but this is a good look.
Its said cause I know what it means to be out there fighting this war. There are ppl out there who's lives are so jacked their hoping their homes upgrade to the ghettos some of you keyboard thugs claim to be from. And for all you kids against the military, fuck you. Straight up. My boys laid down their lives for their families and yours. You should be complain about those so-called gansters slinging crack and dying over a block that aint thiers. Instead your half educated and slinging mud in the face of the only real ganstas out there. Anybody willing to risk their lives for some people regardless of the fact that it wont be appreciated.... NOW THATS GANSTA!

Whatever tho. Go back to your hatin' Im sure it makes you sound so cool and gets you that blog-respect your aimin' for.
July 24, 2008 9:32 AM
 

mostconceited said:

LMAO at the audacity of some of yall comments who most likely get there global news from their favorite rappers..then i'm laughin at lebanon who's obviously in love with the romantics of bein a revolutionary and goin against the grain when he should focus his energy and ignorance on Lebanon instead of Iraq.....yea, it's widely believed that we went over there becuz of WMD's..which were never found..but didn't yall know Saddam violated a treaty he signed about the range of his missiles which may not have been WMD's but were way outta regs according to the treaty he signed...then everybody acts like iraq was stable before we invaded, which would be true if you count saddam sorta playin favorites over one group of iraq's, but executing, raping, and plunderthe other groups..that country was fucked and has been fucked since saddam took power up til now..the only difference, more iraqi's have a say so in wut goes on in their politics(believe it or not), more money is being put into their economy(believe it or not), due to multi million dollar contracts that go to such things as fixing drainage systems, infrastructure, and maintaining their miltary and police force(get real people...complain all you want, these things are necessary inorder to maintain peace)..yall seem to think that if we pull out, iraq is gonna be fine and all it's inhabitants are live happily ever after(lol, yea rite)....the hate crimes commited by iraqi's against iraqi's here make the worst hate crime in america seem like a joke...and that ain't includin foreign influence who yall think is fighting for iraq's freedom from us but in reality just want the same thing our own country thinks we want from iraq-a threshold in that area of the world....and why shouldn't we?....i would look out for my interests..wut about you?...yall act like people don't hate you becuz of your nationality and alleged beliefs...i mean, think about it, 9/11 did happen....hey mr lebanon, i guess we had that comin and deserved it rite?...all those people should have been slain because they were stupid enough to get on a plane or go to work that day rite?...before you antagonize and straight disrespect a service member, do a lil studying or better yet go over there and see wuts really goin on.....not wut ya favorite rapper or some conspiracy theorist believes wuts goin on....
July 24, 2008 9:33 AM
 

BumpHipHop: The Hip Hop News Source » Kanye West Addresses Iraq War Issues said:

July 24, 2008 9:53 AM
 

Savy_Da_Boss said:

SEARS TOWER said:
BUSH DON'T CARE ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE!

DAMN I HOPE HE SAY THAT SHIT AGAIN
-------------------------------------------------------------

LMAO...I would have tears in my eyes laughing if he did that shit again!!
July 24, 2008 10:02 AM
 

Sovietnam said:

sorry guys but i dont care about anything Kanye West. im sure he means well but if kids look up to him, then alot of our youth will grow up to be soft, faggy and bitchy.

Just sayin.
July 24, 2008 10:18 AM
 

NewWest-310 said:

Thats Real:

PLEASE CHOOSE OR WE ALL LOSE!!!!
(and please dont choose McCain :-)
July 24, 2008 11:13 AM
 

risky $mith said:

Some Ignorant fuckn comments get me heated from you bitchmade papa john nobodies.
Is the war justified, nope. But this ongoing saga s already immersed itself into an infinite chaos. Them soldiers that enlisted are brave and as we sit an argue music these people are dogging bullets and dealing with the death of their homies.

@Lebanon ~GO FUCK YOURSELF

This is a hot topic and it seems Kayne is stepping up to voice concern, so let him do him. Its not no publicity stunt and yes hes an egomaniac, but honestly who else that has his fame are saying anything regarding these issues. Chris Tucker just went with the teleprompter after Kayne spoke the truth. So fuck all you lame bitches that dont support our troops, fuck the war but these men and women are trapped. Slap you MOTHERFUCKERS!!!!! GET REAL
July 24, 2008 11:30 AM
 

Cabana da Don said:

PAY ATTENTION TO HOLYWOOD."IRONMAN" COUCH COUCH.WHO GAVE SADDAM MISSLES???COUCH COUCH.SLOW MUTHERFUCKERS.
July 24, 2008 11:52 AM
 

Asher "Black Bomb" Sommer said:

What kind of broads are in here today?

Please make notes.

Bush and Bin Laden did 9/11

Both sell oil and like the price to
be higher
(7x higher than 20 USD before Bush)

Irak never attacked the US

So pls all republicans posting here

your candidate will not win. Period

The only ones that attacked America
are the president and his lobbyists.

Smarten up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 24, 2008 12:13 PM
 

Asher "Black Bomb" Sommer said:

@ Cabana.

Ant weapons Saddam had, were Russian or US made.
July 24, 2008 12:18 PM
 

SneakrGeek said:

George W. Bush does not care about poor people
July 24, 2008 1:46 PM
 

Eddie Owens said:

Real good look Ye
July 24, 2008 2:12 PM
 

VAgogetta said:

definately gonna check this out when it comes on.
July 24, 2008 3:32 PM
 

hiphopjumpman58 said:

That's good that hip-hop is getting more and more involved in our society and politcs.
July 24, 2008 3:56 PM
 

hiphopjumpman58 said:

That's good that hip-hop is getting more and more involved in our society and politcs.
July 24, 2008 3:56 PM
 

Lebanon said:

Most conceited first of all use paragraphs, it is very easy, just press ENTER.

Second of all, you ask me did the US have 9/11 coming, hey if you can support occupying and invading Iraq which has caused more deaths of Iraqi civilians than 100 9/11's.  

American lives are not worth more than Iraqis.

The way the US gov't and it's army is acting in Iraq today, we have another 9/11 coming.  Why should the Iraqis only face the brunt of the war, shouldn't Americans feel what it is like to be at war and die daily like Iraqis?  Maybe if Americans were actually at war they would know the reality and speak out against it.  

If Russian soldiers would be killing you in America, you wouldn't be like i am against the Russian gov'ts war but i support their soldiers.  You would be like fuck their soldiers, i hope they die for what they did to my people and country.

To all those saying we gave Iraqi democracy, there is no point in debating with you, you are on another level of being brainwashed.  Women can go outside now?  Do you know what you are talking about, Women were 100x better off during Saddam than now where the religious groups (some supported by America) roam the streets and have the law in their hands.  You know nothing about Iraq and the condition of the women there, they are truly the biggest victim of this US war on Iraq.

We will suffer the reprucussions of this war for years to come, even  years after we fully pull-out.  Our kids will face the reprucussions for what we did to those people.

If an American wants to excel in life than get a fucking job that doesn't involve murder, torture, oppression and occupation.  Don't cry to me when you come back and the gov't doesn't know who you are anymore because you have been used and no longer needed, you have been discarded.  Don't even ask me for change on the street when you turn into a homeless veteran bum.  I'd rather donate my money to some Iraqi charity that helps them.
July 24, 2008 5:25 PM
 

mostconceited said:

@lebanon

lol..smh....u know the difference between my post and your post...you use "there"..and i use "here"..have you been to iraq mr lebanon?....instead of go tit for tat...i'm goin to bring closure to wuteva point you're tryna make mr lebanon..paragraph by paragragh just to make you happy

so your sayin becuase we invaded iraq after 9/11...then the
WTC was justified..hhhmmmm..if that's how you feel...ok..can't change that...just as long as you stand by your words and realized wut you just typed..ok with me..i won't loose any sleep

the fact that you are kinda implyin that there should be fair way to fight a war....i don't know..you kinda sound like a dumbass standing from over here..you should stand over here and look at wut you're typin..then maybe you'd see it....and in case you haven't noticed, there are americans over here fighting a war....and i'm pretty sure they know the reality of it....the big question is wut war you've been thru or experienced since you kinda come across as if you're an expert at it....

i think you've just been nominated for worst analogy of the century..why the fuck would americans cheer for russians if russians are in america killing americans...wut comparison were you tryna make...i'm not makin the connection....so..i'm gonna correct your analogy and make it sound like you meant it to...then i'm gonna debunk it...

i'm guessin russians were supposed to represent the US and their gov't represents ours..which would mean the US represents Iraq...????...hhhmmmm....i'm just gonna leave you with this...i never shot at anyone who wasn't shootin at me...u figure it out mr Lebanon...you do realize iraq has an army do you mr lebanon, you do realize they are also policing there own neighborhoods and communities mr lebanon..you do realize that in sum areas that iraqi police and army have to cover up their face when in uniform in fear of retribution for their families if ever discovered they were tryna clean up their own communities...you do realize that iraqi's are gettin executed by other iraqi's becuz they let Iraqi army and police know that iraqi's were forcin them to hide cache's of bombs and weapons used to kill americans(aren't you happy)and Iraqi miltary and police. But don't forget about the collateral damage; you know, the women and children around when that shit goes off...who has to deal with the aftermath of that shit..surely not those fighting for the freedom of "tyranny" from the american occupiers...i've heard first hand accounts from the horses mouth about a a few men who were abducted and then publicly executed becuz they allegedly were helpin iraqi police clean up their own neighborhoods..surely this isn't the world iraq was built for and that of which you know so well and is ok to you for these people to live..and i can go on all day with stories of iraqi's killin iraqi's with the help of its next door neighbor by way of training and funding

Now this is where you took the cake....how do you know the plight of the Iraqi women..give me a concrete example that you know without a doubt that iraqi women were better off with saddam then they were without him...everybody knows for a fact that the only people who were well off with saddam were the sunni's..and last time i checked every woman in iraq wasn't sunni..aannnddd last time i checked iraq wasn't exactly a unified front of religion when saddam was in, i don't know if you knew this or not..and they have the same religion retard..their difference is of a political one, not religion based, it's pretty obvious you know nuthin about iraq and its political situation and atmosphere, or the plight of it's women either for that matter...so tell me please Mr Lebanon..u are provin to be quite the expert on everything that deals with iraq and it's surrounding areas...cuz i'm dyin to know...

See there's no point argueing with you Mr lebanon, becuz u know nuthin of wut you speak..infact i don't think your world expands beyond your computer screen and the four walls that surrounds it..it's almost the same as a victim of torture telling an audience about wut happened to him in a torture chamber, and then the audience hearing about the same incident from another guy only except this guy only knows wut he heard from the room next door...you don't know...and you'll never know...

you know wut i don't get mr lebanon....u bitch and complain about alleged injustices done to iraqi's over "there" as you like to say..but judging from your name, i'm guessing you came from lebanon to live here....and if you work, i'm guessin you pay taxes, so how do you feel about knowingly funding the alleged "source' of iraq's sorry, pain, hardships, and strife?..why are you still here?.......

July 25, 2008 9:06 AM
 

mostconceited said:

@lebanon

lol..smh....u know the difference between my post and your post...you use "there"..and i use "here"..have you been to iraq mr lebanon?....instead of go tit for tat...i'm goin to bring closure to wuteva point you're tryna make mr lebanon..paragraph by paragragh just to make you happy

so your sayin becuase we invaded iraq after 9/11...then the
WTC was justified..hhhmmmm..if that's how you feel...ok..can't change that...just as long as you stand by your words and realized wut you just typed..ok with me..i won't loose any sleep

the fact that you are kinda implyin that there should be fair way to fight a war....i don't know..you kinda sound like a dumbass standing from over here..you should stand over here and look at wut you're typin..then maybe you'd see it....and in case you haven't noticed, there are americans over here fighting a war....and i'm pretty sure they know the reality of it....the big question is wut war you've been thru or experienced since you kinda come across as if you're an expert at it....

i think you've just been nominated for worst analogy of the century..why the fuck would americans cheer for russians if russians are in america killing americans...wut comparison were you tryna make...i'm not makin the connection....so..i'm gonna correct your analogy and make it sound like you meant it to...then i'm gonna debunk it...

i'm guessin russians were supposed to represent the US and their gov't represents ours..which would mean the US represents Iraq...????...hhhmmmm....i'm just gonna leave you with this...i never shot at anyone who wasn't shootin at me...u figure it out mr Lebanon...you do realize iraq has an army do you mr lebanon, you do realize they are also policing there own neighborhoods and communities mr lebanon..you do realize that in sum areas that iraqi police and army have to cover up their face when in uniform in fear of retribution for their families if ever discovered they were tryna clean up their own communities...you do realize that iraqi's are gettin executed by other iraqi's becuz they let Iraqi army and police know that iraqi's were forcin them to hide cache's of bombs and weapons used to kill americans(aren't you happy)and Iraqi miltary and police. But don't forget about the collateral damage; you know, the women and children around when that shit goes off...who has to deal with the aftermath of that shit..surely not those fighting for the freedom of "tyranny" from the american occupiers...i've heard first hand accounts from the horses mouth about a a few men who were abducted and then publicly executed becuz they allegedly were helpin iraqi police clean up their own neighborhoods..surely this isn't the world iraq was built for and that of which you know so well and is ok to you for these people to live..and i can go on all day with stories of iraqi's killin iraqi's with the help of its next door neighbor by way of training and funding

Now this is where you took the cake....how do you know the plight of the Iraqi women..give me a concrete example that you know without a doubt that iraqi women were better off with saddam then they were without him...everybody knows for a fact that the only people who were well off with saddam were the sunni's..and last time i checked every woman in iraq wasn't sunni..aannnddd last time i checked iraq wasn't exactly a unified front of religion when saddam was in, i don't know if you knew this or not..and they have the same religion retard..their difference is of a political one, not religion based, it's pretty obvious you know nuthin about iraq and its political situation and atmosphere, or the plight of it's women either for that matter...so tell me please Mr Lebanon..u are provin to be quite the expert on everything that deals with iraq and it's surrounding areas...cuz i'm dyin to know...

See there's no point argueing with you Mr lebanon, becuz u know nuthin of wut you speak..infact i don't think your world expands beyond your computer screen and the four walls that surrounds it..it's almost the same as a victim of torture telling an audience about wut happened to him in a torture chamber, and then the audience hearing about the same incident from another guy only except this guy only knows wut he heard from the room next door...you don't know...and you'll never know...

you know wut i don't get mr lebanon....u bitch and complain about alleged injustices done to iraqi's over "there" as you like to say..but judging from your name, i'm guessing you came from lebanon to live here....and if you work, i'm guessin you pay taxes, so how do you feel about knowingly funding the alleged "source' of iraq's sorry, pain, hardships, and strife?..why are you still here?.......

July 25, 2008 9:07 AM
 

Lebanon said:

mostconceited you are one incoherent person.

Yes i have been to Iraq before the US totally destroyed that country and created this mess we have today.

Women today have no rights or protection, the religious nuts control the streets, the only reason these religious fanatics are in power is becuase the US totally destroyed the gov't, army, institutions in that country and now these guys feel strong enough to roam the streets with guns and to force people there to live by their standards and their interpretation of the Koran.

When i went to Iraq, i did not feel any fear, i walked the streets on my own, i went to Baghdah University and met a lot of students, male and female, the majority of the college were females and did not have their heads covered (nothing wrong with having your head covered, the majority of the women in my family are veiled but i am pointing out the reality that i saw in Iraq).

Today in Iraq, women are being kidnapped, killed for not covering up, they are disappearing if they don't follow what a militia tells them to follow.

Saddam was a murdering bastard but a secular one at least.

You talk about the Iraqi gov't, what a joke, how did this gov't come into power?  Who put them there?  Would they be there if the US didn't invade?  The Iraqi gov't is a joke and you said it  yourself by saying that police have to cover their faces in their own country, if this was a legitamite gov't supported by the majority of Iraqis than why would a police man have to cover his face up in his own country?

The only reason this gov't is in power in Iraq is because the US soldiers are there, if they leave that gov't will most likely collapse, sooner or later.

You are mad because you are too stupid to get a real job that doesn't involve murder, occupation and harming people.

Go to school, learn how to read and write and get a real job with dignity, not a job that goes around the world fighting for the interests of corporations.

July 25, 2008 5:45 PM
 

Akaneon1 said:

Kanye West doesn't care about white people.
July 26, 2008 7:35 AM
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