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Hip-Hop On Capitol Hill: Executives; Rappers Square Off With Congress 
Published Tuesday, September 25, 2007 3:40 PM
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By Nolan Strong

Rappers Master P. and David Banner appeared on Capitol Hill today (September 25) to testify before members of Congress, who conducted hearings with the top entertainment executives about lyrics in Hip-Hop music.

 

The hearings, titled "From Imus to Industry: The Business of Stereotypes and Degrading Images," kicked off at 10:00 am in the Rayburn House Office Building.

 

The hearings were called by Rep. Bobby L. Rush (D-Ill.), a former Black Panther Party member who chairs the Subcommittee on Commerce, Trade, and Consumer Protection.

 

Rep. Rush held the hearings with industry executives, the rappers, and several scholars, who discussed the impact of racist and sexist language "transmitted via interstate commerce and telecommunications modes."

 

The first panel to testify before congress included Edgar Bronfman Jr. (Warner Music Group), Doug Morris (Universal Music Group), Alfred C. Liggins III (CEO, Radio One), Philippe Dauman (CEO, Viacom) and Strauss Zelnick (CEO, Take Two Interactive).

 

"In our standards and practices, we do in fact ban those words," Philippe Dauman, CEO of Viacom testified. "When we have music videos submitted to us, if they contain those words, we will not air them across any of our platforms, unless they're edited."

 

Viacom's holdings include MTV, BET, VH1, Nickelodeon, Comedy Central and others.

 

Edgar Bronfman, CEO of Warner Music Group, said that his company did and would not censor artists.

 

"We at Warner are creators of content," Bronfman testified. "We don't feel that banning expression is an appropriate approach. No content goes out of Warner music that does not have a sticker to warn parents of explicit lyrics. Hateful language is in the eye of the beholder and it is important that it be contextualized."

 

Morris of Universal Music Group, echoed Bronfman's sentiment.

 

"I would never ban any of the words," Morris testified. "What I think bothers everyone on this committee is the feeling that standards in the companies have deteriorated. I don't think you can improve anything by banning three words [b**ch, n***a and ho] from the industry."

 

The Internet has wrestled much of the control over content from each of the record labels, testified Alfred Liggins, CEO of Radio One, a point that was noted several times by congressional members several times during the hearings.

 

"I find it ironic that my colleagues run companies that have practices and reviews, but we live in a world where people can access any content," Dauman testified. "There's no way to control all content whether we find it objectionable or not."

 

Bronfman also noted the power of the Internet, the ability to view files on new devices and pleaded with the committee to help stop the spread of piracy instead of censoring lyrics.

 

"Ninety percent of the music we release has nothing to do with rap music," said Morris, CEO of Universal Music Group, which recently released blockbuster albums by Kanye West and 50 Cent. "What I am angry about is the fact that the music business is being destroyed by criminal behavior and no one is addressing that. Our business is being destroyed by criminals. If you put on LimeWire, all of our songs are taken for free. Tower Records, hundreds of record stores, are closing down."

 

There is nothing to stop artists from going to directly to the Internet and releasing their music, each one of the executives agreed, but committee members reminded each executive that the Internet was not the subject of the hearings.

 

"The images I see here are only a slice of life in the hood. I live in the hood. Where are the working class people represented?" Rep. Rush said to applause.

 

The second panel of the day included Hip-Hop mogul Master P., rapper David Banner and Dr. Michael Eric Dyson, who offered very different points of view.

Rush thanked each of the artists for coming to the hearings voluntarily, and praised each for their participation in the hearings.

 

"I'm from Jackson Mississippi, one of the most violent cities in the world," David Banner testified. "Rap music is what kept me out of trouble. Statistics will never show the positive side of rap. Rap music has changed me and the lives of everyone around me."

 

Banner, who eloquently read from a prepared speech, cited Mark Twain's literary classic Huckleberry Finn.

 

"They use the word nigger 215 times, but the book was not banned because of its artistic value. But Hip-Hop is held to different values."

 

"I'm not here to bash Hip-Hop," Master P said. "My goal is to preserve Hip-Hop. It's a part of problem in society and we are inflaming the problem. I was once part of the problem. I want to be part of the solution. The reason we have such a problem is because nobody wants to take responsibility. I been on both sides, the business side and the artist side. Even the executives are not the problem. We have to form some sort of union where we have control. We start getting with our kids and figure out how we can prepare our kids. We are preparing them to lose, that's why we have so many angry artists. They don't know about finances or taxes. I want to challenge the executives to put up facilities so we can teach these kids more than music. We are focusing on just the artists, but have to get behind the scenes."

 

When committee member Illinois committee member Jan Schakowsky turned the subject to women, Dr. Dyson described Hip-Hop's depiction of women as "lamentable" but stated that misogyny did not begin with Hip-Hop music.

 

"It didn't start with Snoop Dogg. America is built on degraded images perpetuated against black men and women who built the country," Dr. Dyson testified. "Am I offended by certain [things said] in Hip-Hop communities? Yes. But I don't begin with them. I wouldn't quarantine the crazy to Hip-Hop. The country cannot come to the aide of Banner (Mississippi) and Master P (Louisiana) after Hurricane Katrina, but now they want to indict them for the way they express themselves. The virtue of Hip-Hop is that you don't have to guess. There are ways in which polite society enforces the same values. We have a powerful manifestation of it, but we have avoided how these sentiments are expressed in society."

 

Representative Rush calmed the growing tensions in the room by reminding the artists that Hip-Hop was not under fire, nor being indicted.

 

"I am proud of the Hip-Hop genre," Representative Rush said. "I know where it began and what it has become. It has created opportunities for young African American men and women to emerge from the depths of the ghetto to become icons in the corporate world. It has created thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of jobs for people. I find that it is an art form. However, given all that, I know that there is a problem, a deep seeded, deep rooted problem that exists in our community. But a pay check is not an excuse for being a part of that problem. You have to emerge as us of do, and did."

 

Texas committee member Charles A. Gonzalez noted a difference of opinion between Master P and David Banner's body language and told them both they were avoiding the issue.

 

Both artists admitted that when they changed the focus of their lyrics, public consumption of their records dropped, resulting in a memorable chastising of Banner and Master P by Gonzalez

 

Massachusetts committee member Edward J. Markey asked Banner how he could work to have a positive message.

 

"All they hear is your music. What can you do? In your music to get out the positive message," Markey asked. "Is your music consistent with the message you send out? Every time one of your videos play. What can you do in your videos and music to help and propel this message?"

 

"I view my music as a Bible with a Playboy cover on it," Banner said. "Instead of listening to the curse words, please don't hear just that, hear that we are crying to help."

 

Master P., stated that Banner needed to separate his personal life from his public persona as the rapper "David Banner."

 

"Education and knowledge are two different things," Master P. stated, a point he noted throughout the day. "We have to glorify the positive things in Hip-Hop and the kids are going to want to change. Everyone is in panic mode. I want to take David Banner, and our kids out of panic mode. These guys are not going to sacrifice their jobs, unless we teach the some financial literacy. I am just saying take out some of the negative stuff they won't play on the TV and radio anyway. When those guys left they were on the same page, but we are at each others throats."

 

Representative Rush concluded the panel by thanking the rappers and telling them they did an excellent service for their nation.


Comments

 

ARSUN FiST said:

i'm glad debates like this are starting to take place, but if Master P's bottom line of "Finacial literacy" is achieved then major labels could be outta business quick...once artists develop a real sense of ownership and build their movements from the ground up the machine will become obsolete...next time we need to speak on the entertainment industry as a whole and not just focus on hip-hop...tv has been outta control for years....
September 25, 2007 5:12 PM
 

tupacfan35 said:

David Banner will turn into the hulk and wreak havoc on congress.
September 25, 2007 5:23 PM
 

KTULU said:

Will it be on C-SPAN or something?  Who's got video?
September 25, 2007 5:24 PM
 

draenonymous? said:

Wow. I think that this is exactly what needs to happen. Even though many people will disagree b/c they take it as an attack on the music, this actually gives the opportunity to express why the music exists as it does. I commend David Banner for being a Chuck D of our time almost, meaning he's not afraid to take a stance on social issues, regardless of what it may mean to his image. There are rappers who are much more visible who do much larger numbers and are afraid to come anywhere close to things such as this, and the Allhiphop Social Lounge type events. I think one thing we can do is educate kids on how much of an influence the pioneers of hip-hop had socially. I'm glad to see its taking place. The execs are really the ones who should catch heat b/c the people at the top make the ultimate decisions....and take home the lion's share of the earnings so they deserve to catch the heat.

Will we as a consumer base accept a social movement in the music? I think those of us who realize the impact and the true potential of the artists we will.

The kids won't but they don't like eating vegetables either.
September 25, 2007 5:28 PM
 

ShinDEE said:

master p on some bullshit
September 25, 2007 5:47 PM
 

disconnexions said:

Why are they still trying to link what Imus said to rap music? Don Imus hasn't listened to a rap song since "The Rappin' Duke", how the phuck did we let them blame us for his racist jokes?

This is the biggest crock of sh!t since we went to war with Iraq to fight terrorism.

I agree that we need discussion about the lyrics in rap, but damn doesn't our congress have more important things to do. How about getting us out this war that's costing us half a trillion dollars?
September 25, 2007 6:26 PM
 

shoreview said:

I think hip hop is not in danger because it doesnt start with hip hop like someone on the panel stated. I noticed something the other day when watching the wire on BET they showed marlo shooting the woman in her mouth and both breast on BET, now we rap these lyrics but how much greater damage can be caused to a mind then actually showing the image. If hip hop is in trouble Hollywood and the motion picture industry she be erased, 4 every ryhme that gets wrote theres a film being made to example it and beyond. America is built on entertaining, if we have 2 stop entertaining a hole lot of people should stop entertaining, more like the politics and goverment thats entertaining America and the World with this War stuff thats getting innocent people killed every day. Its all good in the hood though, holla at me on My Space.

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September 25, 2007 6:30 PM
 

hiphop4eva1 said:

I think this is a huge step to part of the solution..they need to arrange a happy medium somewhere..there needs to be a balance..negotiations should involve egos set to the side. I think they did an incredible job just having that meeting...thats a start. gotta start somewhere. It can grow into change for the better. on both positive sides...lets look at the bigger picture.
September 25, 2007 6:41 PM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

The context definitely has to be taken into account. But at the same time as with any art form that has a mass audience, what really gets through to the mainstream is very carefully controlled. It would be a different issue if Viacom did not own the main entertainment channels and they have a great amount of influence over what aspect of Hip Hop is projected.

Instead, when we were exposed to the "ugghhh nah nah nah" Master P in the late 90s on MTV and BET all of that was carefully controlled and released. Whatever impact Hip Hop culture will have on society as a whole is represented by a lot of competing interests. The power of capitalism is that it has always been a philosophy or doctrine that corrupts and controls by co-opting its rivals so the destruction and erosion at the base of Hip Hop is subtle but the strategy is the same.

"Drastic Measures"
http://www.myspace.com/streetweyezsayles
September 25, 2007 6:46 PM
 

mixonc said:

September 25, 2007 7:05 PM
 

NOSouljah said:

Peace,

I think the solution to this is simple. The problem has been caused by TOO much attention. $ and promotion of ONE aspect of hip hop is been pushed so-called gangsta rap. If there was balance in what is shown and played people would know they have a choice. Solution GIVE MORE AIR AND TV TIME TO THE ARTIST THAT ARE DOING AND SAYING THE POSITIVE. I believe it is wrong however to make hip hop the scapegoat for the moral decline of America, the contrary can be argued and is the truth. Those record execs and tv station heads need to be called to the carpet.
September 25, 2007 7:59 PM
 

SnappyPop said:

and to think all this started with a racist rant from a racist krakkka who got all the house niggas riled up to protest the rappers. They arent the problem, the labels are the problem, they are blancing shit on the radio stations they control, all you hear is bitches, hoes, nigga, I'm a major figga and all that bullshit but not once has the radio station played anything positive except for styles p I'm black but that nigga shouldve been outspoke like that years ago instead of talking the same ole hood shit that got these impressionable minds to think they can be gangsta or dopeboy and act bulletproof. Niggas aint protesting the war, niggas aint rapping much about police brutality or any injustice going on, where the hell is a jena 6 song that bumps in the ride, these rap niggas are some fuckin cowards and I aint all of them because some actually showed their support but these niggas making it rain in the club couldnt be found at the jena 6 rally or even donating some of that rain money, fake ass rap niggas wanna be hard and gangsta but not gangsta like the BP naw rap niggas rap about poppin caps in each other and not the enemy, now look one krakkka say something fucked up and blame it on hiphop like he even listens to it and now all of these house niggas like jackson and sharpton wanna lead crusades against a voice that has turned violent simply because it has been manipulated and forced down our throats by the same stations they control. They can talk all day about positivity in music but it wont mean shit because the industry is what is controlling whats being played, you may get a common or kanye but most likely you get bling, bitches and big rims sitting then videos that kids see and thats what they wanna emulate especially with bitch niggas like young jeezy still talking bout being a dope pusher and rick ross wanting to be the new freeway rick using the scarface soundtrack as his album and niggas ate it up because they have been dumbed so much that now they embrace stupidity. We are so fucked up in the head right now and guess what do we even care about ourselves and gaining true freedom? Fuck no as long as them slave chain is blinging niggas is good with being boss mans bitch again.
September 25, 2007 9:02 PM
 

vega_diamond said:

I think that since this is some crazy bs. there have been a crazy amount of things other than hip hop that have molded the way people think. I won't deny that hip hop is one of the more  powerful forms of influence right now, but come on!!!! mtv has people going on a "gay spree" but that's freedom of expression, the news has constant killing; but that's freedom of press. rock music and country music all have messages that alot of people do not agree with. from vandalizing people's personal property to cheating on their wives; that's freedom of speech.

it is becoming increasingly clear that it's not just an argument about hip hop music. this is now becoming a power struggle! everywhere you look from corperate america, to the inner city; from rap, rock, jazz, poetry, movies, books, schools, advertisements, and various other avenues. hip hop has the most influence. it was ok when hip hop was making everbody money or when people were able to tap into hip hop and make money from it. but now that the people who are considered hip hop are becoming smarter and are understanding their true power, it is becoming an issue.

History repeats itself just as slaves were forbidden to sing about their oppression, those who are burdened slaves of our time are now being censored. I say slaves of our time referring to whites, blacks, hispanics, asians.... and every other race out there.

This is America!!!! in case people forgot we have a thing called free speech. its one thing to state that oyu have a dis-liking for something, but just as we have to put up with pro-homo stuff damn near everywhere you look, just as we have to respect all of the other people out there who preach hate, and just as we have to tolerate idiotic remarks from anybody else, respect that rappers and lyricists are exercising free speech and freedom of expression.

Master p claiming that he was a part of the problem now he wants to be a part of the solution????? what kind of solution is it to cover up the voices of an entire people? If nobody ever opens their mouth to inform the rest of the world that there is something going on that needs to be focused on, then it will continue to get worse. He of all people should know that. all he is doing is trying to stand out and get publicity. but in his effort to get that 15 minutes of fame again, he's muzzeling  his people. he probably has a cd or a movie coming soon or something.

September 25, 2007 9:03 PM
 

canipost? said:

BAN A WORD? HOW BOUT BANNING POVERTY AND OPPRESION
September 25, 2007 9:59 PM
 

Kennyredd said:

these muphukas took time to get artist to come talk about words???? and black folk could possibly lose the rgt to vote on day? 170,000 troops or so fightig a bullshit war against a ton of niggas who feel they SHOULD die fighting? when the porch of the white house got 2000 homeless people sleep outside...fuck them clowns....if they apply the same energy into the shit that counts, we would be hell!!!!
September 26, 2007 1:50 AM
 

US Congress Begins Hip Hop Decency Debate said:

September 26, 2007 2:52 AM
 

jaeda said:

I have faith in David banner!!!!
I think Master P is going to sell out Hip-Hop to Congress.
September 26, 2007 11:01 AM
 

Polar Bear Grizz said:

This is all just smoke and mirrors. There is no way congress will change the 1st amendment over gangster rap no matter how vulgar and crass the lyrics are. In the end the CDs are clearly labeled for their exlicit content and you have a choice wether to listen to it or not. I think Master P says a lot of dumb shyt but he's right about the fact old heads are attacking one style of Hip Hop instead of rallying behind the brothers making positive music. Hip Hop on Capital Hill...aint that some shyt.
September 26, 2007 11:58 AM
 

shani said:

niggas bitches and hoes is a smokescreen

they're words that people argue about, forever protected by the constitution

the real new purpose of Hip Hop is to influence Black people to deal drugs

but people don't really want to go there

so they talk about curse words forever

brothers arn't locked in the system over words

see, there's this underground economy what's going on
you can't compare corn,  wheat or beef to that
September 26, 2007 3:05 PM
 

Hennessy2069 said:

I feel that the gov. is focusing on the wrong thing. Instead of trying to bann and monitor Hip-Hop, they need to focusing on what most of these rappers are rapping about. Rapper don't make brothers go out and sell drugs. The lack of opportunity and no faith in the system is what causes brothers to turn to drugs. It is the poor school system that has brothers turning to selling drugs. Are they going to attack the porn industry on how they portray black women in porn as compared to white women. Master P, or should I say Sell out P is only saying what he is saying about hip-hop, because his son is on Nick. I am sure you all seen the picture of him Oprah and Obama. That says it all. B. Rush, I find it hard that he was Panther. I am from Ill and I know him. He is really about himself and has never done nothing for the black community. He is just on THERE side. I find it strange that there are more blacks going aginst Hip-Hop then whites. I feel that they are just puppets.

What ever happen to FREEDOM OF SPEECH. If they are attacking Hip-Hop soon Poetry will be next, soon how we dress will be next. In counties they are banning sagging giving out fines and jail time for sagging. This is just step one this country is slowly becoming a Communistic state.  
September 26, 2007 4:47 PM
 

HEAT ADVISORY RECORDS said:

i think they shouldve interview the real OG's of the game

TOO SHORT, UGK, E-40, WU-TANG, LL COOL J, NAS, JAY-Z, DR DRE, AND ICE CUBE

THOSE ARE THE MEN WHO SHAPED THE HEART AND MINDS OF 20-35 YEAR OLD AFRICAN AMERICANS

EVERYONE AFTER THAT LEARNED FROM THEM

BUT THAT DONT MEAN PIMP HOES, RIDE DIRTY, GET DRUNK, GET CREAM, GET GIRLS,BE ILL, HUSTLE ,SMOKE CHRONIC, OR BE A GORILLA IN THE MIST DOES IT....................................
September 26, 2007 6:21 PM
 

IronHorse said:

The state that america is in right now, is horrible.
There is no 1 solution forseable because we are trained to be stupid and nieve to reality.
The Federal reserve bank runs the universe. They run the government. They are the secret society that runs america.
Our government has lied to us for ages, about religion, world events, taxes, terrorism, society in general, everything. Its built on lies and bloodshed. America itself is a lie.
The entire entertainment industry in america itself and media outlets are nothing more than a distraction from finding out the truth about the greatest lie ever told and of whats in store for us, the american people.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
September 27, 2007 10:34 AM
 

manayard said:

I think this is a step in the right direction, shout out to Banner, he takes alot of flack and not many people stand up to protect him but he jumps to the aid of anyone in trouble, the issue I have is with Master P.  I don't hate on P or any of that but would he have this message if he was still pushing the same units as he use to? When he had the whole world saying "UHHHHHHH" he had a totally different message, just something to think about.
September 28, 2007 12:03 PM
 

Boss Up said:

This meeting shouldn't even be happening....meanwhile they can do wutever they want to try and stop wut they see as 'negative' in Hip Hop. Be smart enuff on your own to kno the difference
September 29, 2007 3:43 PM
 

gambitg99 said:

Niggas don't listen to P...if u listened to him @ the height of NL's success, you would know he always said, "hustle until you get enough & get out". The shelf life of a gansta rapper is short. Especially if you make $400 million. People not gon' believe the hustle rap anymore. P reached that phase, J & 50 are at that stage now.

Go back to what to P told 50 on rap city, "I'm not saying stop rapping your content, instead of cussing put the radio version on the album". That's all he's advocating...who can argue with that? he's not saying quit rapping about dope, but instead of b!tch, say trick or instead of hoe, say pro. But people would rather react than listen.

Just like his point to Banner about Al Sharpton...if a old head says something you don't agree with INSTEAD of arguing & calling him names, respect his opinion and keep doing what you doing. COOLER HEADS PREVAIL. You don't have to agree, but you don't have to take the difference in opinion personal & let it derail you. At some point we have to grow up.  
September 30, 2007 6:24 PM
 

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