Hip-Hop On Capitol Hill: Executives; Rappers Square Off With Congress

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ARSUN FiST — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:12:04 GMT

i'm glad debates like this are starting to take place, but if Master P's bottom line of "Finacial literacy" is achieved then major labels could be outta business quick...once artists develop a real sense of ownership and build their movements from the ground up the machine will become obsolete...next time we need to speak on the entertainment industry as a whole and not just focus on hip-hop...tv has been outta control for years....

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tupacfan35 — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:23:39 GMT

David Banner will turn into the hulk and wreak havoc on congress.

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KTULU — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:24:37 GMT

Will it be on C-SPAN or something? Who's got video?

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draenonymous? — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:28:25 GMT

Wow. I think that this is exactly what needs to happen. Even though many people will disagree b/c they take it as an attack on the music, this actually gives the opportunity to express why the music exists as it does. I commend David Banner for being a Chuck D of our time almost, meaning he's not afraid to take a stance on social issues, regardless of what it may mean to his image. There are rappers who are much more visible who do much larger numbers and are afraid to come anywhere close to things such as this, and the Allhiphop Social Lounge type events. I think one thing we can do is educate kids on how much of an influence the pioneers of hip-hop had socially. I'm glad to see its taking place. The execs are really the ones who should catch heat b/c the people at the top make the ultimate decisions....and take home the lion's share of the earnings so they deserve to catch the heat.

Will we as a consumer base accept a social movement in the music? I think those of us who realize the impact and the true potential of the artists we will.

The kids won't but they don't like eating vegetables either.

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ShinDEE — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 21:47:35 GMT

master p on some bullshit

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disconnexions — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:26:48 GMT

Why are they still trying to link what Imus said to rap music? Don Imus hasn't listened to a rap song since "The Rappin' Duke", how the phuck did we let them blame us for his racist jokes?

This is the biggest crock of sh!t since we went to war with Iraq to fight terrorism.

I agree that we need discussion about the lyrics in rap, but damn doesn't our congress have more important things to do. How about getting us out this war that's costing us half a trillion dollars?

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shoreview — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:30:11 GMT

I think hip hop is not in danger because it doesnt start with hip hop like someone on the panel stated. I noticed something the other day when watching the wire on BET they showed marlo shooting the woman in her mouth and both breast on BET, now we rap these lyrics but how much greater damage can be caused to a mind then actually showing the image. If hip hop is in trouble Hollywood and the motion picture industry she be erased, 4 every ryhme that gets wrote theres a film being made to example it and beyond. America is built on entertaining, if we have 2 stop entertaining a hole lot of people should stop entertaining, more like the politics and goverment thats entertaining America and the World with this War stuff thats getting innocent people killed every day. Its all good in the hood though, holla at me on My Space.

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hiphop4eva1 — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:41:16 GMT

I think this is a huge step to part of the solution..they need to arrange a happy medium somewhere..there needs to be a balance..negotiations should involve egos set to the side. I think they did an incredible job just having that meeting...thats a start. gotta start somewhere. It can grow into change for the better. on both positive sides...lets look at the bigger picture.

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Streetweyez Sayles — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 22:46:13 GMT

The context definitely has to be taken into account. But at the same time as with any art form that has a mass audience, what really gets through to the mainstream is very carefully controlled. It would be a different issue if Viacom did not own the main entertainment channels and they have a great amount of influence over what aspect of Hip Hop is projected.

Instead, when we were exposed to the "ugghhh nah nah nah" Master P in the late 90s on MTV and BET all of that was carefully controlled and released. Whatever impact Hip Hop culture will have on society as a whole is represented by a lot of competing interests. The power of capitalism is that it has always been a philosophy or doctrine that corrupts and controls by co-opting its rivals so the destruction and erosion at the base of Hip Hop is subtle but the strategy is the same.

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mixonc — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:05:36 GMT

I got the links, Allhiphop.com Social Lounge Part 1-5:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1skqORueW0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmVfjjUCzxI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUPiQTW1KqM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4PkSHg8spA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZexC562r3P0

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NOSouljah — Tue, 25 Sep 2007 23:59:46 GMT

Peace,

I think the solution to this is simple. The problem has been caused by TOO much attention. $ and promotion of ONE aspect of hip hop is been pushed so-called gangsta rap. If there was balance in what is shown and played people would know they have a choice. Solution GIVE MORE AIR AND TV TIME TO THE ARTIST THAT ARE DOING AND SAYING THE POSITIVE. I believe it is wrong however to make hip hop the scapegoat for the moral decline of America, the contrary can be argued and is the truth. Those record execs and tv station heads need to be called to the carpet.

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SnappyPop — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:02:00 GMT

and to think all this started with a racist rant from a racist krakkka who got all the house niggas riled up to protest the rappers. They arent the problem, the labels are the problem, they are blancing shit on the radio stations they control, all you hear is bitches, hoes, nigga, I'm a major figga and all that bullshit but not once has the radio station played anything positive except for styles p I'm black but that nigga shouldve been outspoke like that years ago instead of talking the same ole hood shit that got these impressionable minds to think they can be gangsta or dopeboy and act bulletproof. Niggas aint protesting the war, niggas aint rapping much about police brutality or any injustice going on, where the hell is a jena 6 song that bumps in the ride, these rap niggas are some fuckin cowards and I aint all of them because some actually showed their support but these niggas making it rain in the club couldnt be found at the jena 6 rally or even donating some of that rain money, fake ass rap niggas wanna be hard and gangsta but not gangsta like the BP naw rap niggas rap about poppin caps in each other and not the enemy, now look one krakkka say something fucked up and blame it on hiphop like he even listens to it and now all of these house niggas like jackson and sharpton wanna lead crusades against a voice that has turned violent simply because it has been manipulated and forced down our throats by the same stations they control. They can talk all day about positivity in music but it wont mean shit because the industry is what is controlling whats being played, you may get a common or kanye but most likely you get bling, bitches and big rims sitting then videos that kids see and thats what they wanna emulate especially with bitch niggas like young jeezy still talking bout being a dope pusher and rick ross wanting to be the new freeway rick using the scarface soundtrack as his album and niggas ate it up because they have been dumbed so much that now they embrace stupidity. We are so fucked up in the head right now and guess what do we even care about ourselves and gaining true freedom? Fuck no as long as them slave chain is blinging niggas is good with being boss mans bitch again.

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vega_diamond — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:03:36 GMT

I think that since this is some crazy bs. there have been a crazy amount of things other than hip hop that have molded the way people think. I won't deny that hip hop is one of the more powerful forms of influence right now, but come on!!!! mtv has people going on a "gay spree" but that's freedom of expression, the news has constant killing; but that's freedom of press. rock music and country music all have messages that alot of people do not agree with. from vandalizing people's personal property to cheating on their wives; that's freedom of speech.

it is becoming increasingly clear that it's not just an argument about hip hop music. this is now becoming a power struggle! everywhere you look from corperate america, to the inner city; from rap, rock, jazz, poetry, movies, books, schools, advertisements, and various other avenues. hip hop has the most influence. it was ok when hip hop was making everbody money or when people were able to tap into hip hop and make money from it. but now that the people who are considered hip hop are becoming smarter and are understanding their true power, it is becoming an issue.

History repeats itself just as slaves were forbidden to sing about their oppression, those who are burdened slaves of our time are now being censored. I say slaves of our time referring to whites, blacks, hispanics, asians.... and every other race out there.

This is America!!!! in case people forgot we have a thing called free speech. its one thing to state that oyu have a dis-liking for something, but just as we have to put up with pro-homo stuff damn near everywhere you look, just as we have to respect all of the other people out there who preach hate, and just as we have to tolerate idiotic remarks from anybody else, respect that rappers and lyricists are exercising free speech and freedom of expression.

Master p claiming that he was a part of the problem now he wants to be a part of the solution????? what kind of solution is it to cover up the voices of an entire people? If nobody ever opens their mouth to inform the rest of the world that there is something going on that needs to be focused on, then it will continue to get worse. He of all people should know that. all he is doing is trying to stand out and get publicity. but in his effort to get that 15 minutes of fame again, he's muzzeling his people. he probably has a cd or a movie coming soon or something.

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canipost? — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 01:59:17 GMT

BAN A WORD? HOW BOUT BANNING POVERTY AND OPPRESION

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Kennyredd — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 05:50:41 GMT

these muphukas took time to get artist to come talk about words???? and black folk could possibly lose the rgt to vote on day? 170,000 troops or so fightig a bullshit war against a ton of niggas who feel they SHOULD die fighting? when the porch of the white house got 2000 homeless people sleep outside...fuck them clowns....if they apply the same energy into the shit that counts, we would be hell!!!!

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jaeda — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:01:04 GMT

I have faith in David banner!!!!
I think Master P is going to sell out Hip-Hop to Congress.

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Polar Bear Grizz — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 15:58:29 GMT

This is all just smoke and mirrors. There is no way congress will change the 1st amendment over gangster rap no matter how vulgar and crass the lyrics are. In the end the CDs are clearly labeled for their exlicit content and you have a choice wether to listen to it or not. I think Master P says a lot of dumb shyt but he's right about the fact old heads are attacking one style of Hip Hop instead of rallying behind the brothers making positive music. Hip Hop on Capital Hill...aint that some shyt.

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shani — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 19:05:57 GMT

niggas bitches and hoes is a smokescreen

they're words that people argue about, forever protected by the constitution

the real new purpose of Hip Hop is to influence Black people to deal drugs

but people don't really want to go there

so they talk about curse words forever

brothers arn't locked in the system over words

see, there's this underground economy what's going on
you can't compare corn, wheat or beef to that

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Hennessy2069 — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 20:47:13 GMT

I feel that the gov. is focusing on the wrong thing. Instead of trying to bann and monitor Hip-Hop, they need to focusing on what most of these rappers are rapping about. Rapper don't make brothers go out and sell drugs. The lack of opportunity and no faith in the system is what causes brothers to turn to drugs. It is the poor school system that has brothers turning to selling drugs. Are they going to attack the porn industry on how they portray black women in porn as compared to white women. Master P, or should I say Sell out P is only saying what he is saying about hip-hop, because his son is on Nick. I am sure you all seen the picture of him Oprah and Obama. That says it all. B. Rush, I find it hard that he was Panther. I am from Ill and I know him. He is really about himself and has never done nothing for the black community. He is just on THERE side. I find it strange that there are more blacks going aginst Hip-Hop then whites. I feel that they are just puppets.

What ever happen to FREEDOM OF SPEECH. If they are attacking Hip-Hop soon Poetry will be next, soon how we dress will be next. In counties they are banning sagging giving out fines and jail time for sagging. This is just step one this country is slowly becoming a Communistic state.

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HEAT ADVISORY RECORDS — Wed, 26 Sep 2007 22:21:09 GMT

i think they shouldve interview the real OG's of the game

TOO SHORT, UGK, E-40, WU-TANG, LL COOL J, NAS, JAY-Z, DR DRE, AND ICE CUBE

THOSE ARE THE MEN WHO SHAPED THE HEART AND MINDS OF 20-35 YEAR OLD AFRICAN AMERICANS

EVERYONE AFTER THAT LEARNED FROM THEM

BUT THAT DONT MEAN PIMP HOES, RIDE DIRTY, GET DRUNK, GET CREAM, GET GIRLS,BE ILL, HUSTLE ,SMOKE CHRONIC, OR BE A GORILLA IN THE MIST DOES IT....................................

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IronHorse — Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:34:28 GMT

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There is no 1 solution forseable because we are trained to be stupid and nieve to reality.
The Federal reserve bank runs the universe. They run the government. They are the secret society that runs america.
Our government has lied to us for ages, about religion, world events, taxes, terrorism, society in general, everything. Its built on lies and bloodshed. America itself is a lie.
The entire entertainment industry in america itself and media outlets are nothing more than a distraction from finding out the truth about the greatest lie ever told and of whats in store for us, the american people.

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manayard — Fri, 28 Sep 2007 16:03:01 GMT

I think this is a step in the right direction, shout out to Banner, he takes alot of flack and not many people stand up to protect him but he jumps to the aid of anyone in trouble, the issue I have is with Master P. I don't hate on P or any of that but would he have this message if he was still pushing the same units as he use to? When he had the whole world saying "UHHHHHHH" he had a totally different message, just something to think about.

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Boss Up — Sat, 29 Sep 2007 19:43:08 GMT

This meeting shouldn't even be happening....meanwhile they can do wutever they want to try and stop wut they see as 'negative' in Hip Hop. Be smart enuff on your own to kno the difference

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gambitg99 — Sun, 30 Sep 2007 22:24:35 GMT

Niggas don't listen to P...if u listened to him @ the height of NL's success, you would know he always said, "hustle until you get enough & get out". The shelf life of a gansta rapper is short. Especially if you make $400 million. People not gon' believe the hustle rap anymore. P reached that phase, J & 50 are at that stage now.

Go back to what to P told 50 on rap city, "I'm not saying stop rapping your content, instead of cussing put the radio version on the album". That's all he's advocating...who can argue with that? he's not saying quit rapping about dope, but instead of b!tch, say trick or instead of hoe, say pro. But people would rather react than listen.

Just like his point to Banner about Al Sharpton...if a old head says something you don't agree with INSTEAD of arguing & calling him names, respect his opinion and keep doing what you doing. COOLER HEADS PREVAIL. You don't have to agree, but you don't have to take the difference in opinion personal & let it derail you. At some point we have to grow up.

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