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Gumsole Beatdowns #1: Premier 
Published Tuesday, August 28, 2007 1:20 PM
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By Aqua & Paine
    Despite what Common believes, AllHipHop.com has not found the new Premo. And we don’t want to. Few producers have introduced (and reintroduced) as many artists as credibly or as eloquently as that signature dusty, chopped and scratch-based sound coming from “The East.”

    At 41 years old, the man born Christopher Martin has only endured. The Texas native was one of the first producers to go national, locking in early ‘90s work with MC Eiht and Scarface, introducing Nas, Jay-Z, and Biggie, helping Mos Def, Common and J-Live get street acceptance, and making Christina Aguilera, Limp Bizkit and Macy Gray credible to the streets. This visionary speaks with his hands in dangerous ways, and cannot be duplicated or outdone.

    To kick off our new musical blog series “Gum Sole Beatdowns”—shout out to Bonz Malone—AllHipHop.com editors Aqua and Paine revisit 10 joints from the former Waxmaster C’s catalogue that demonstrate his evolution, his timelessness and his genius. Great MCs don’t shop at Wal-Mart, they shop at Works of Mart.


“Next Level (Premier's Nytetyme Remix)” by Show & A.G. (Payday/Polygram, 1995)

Show & A.G.’s second LP was recorded in Virginia, but the brothers from The Bronx borough-hopped to Brooklyn to get this stretched out Jazz composition, that celebrated Andre the Giant’s larger-than-life microphone persona. This remains one of the finest single joints out of the D.I.T.C. collective, “showing all you corny mothaf**kas what Hip-Hop’s supposed to sound like.”



“Credit Is Due” by Gang Starr (Chrysalis, 1991)


Step In The Arena saw Gang Starr come into their own as Hip-Hop force to be reckoned with. At first listen you might say there isn’t much to what technically didn’t make the album’s cut—it was the B-side to “Love Sick.” Cavernous drums, the slightest soul vocal swipe, thunderous rim shots and subtle keys. Put that all together, and it just bangs. Makes ya wonder what else Preme might have laying around.

 
“The Actual” by All City (Armee/MCA, 1998)


Under the mentorship of Onyx, few would argue that either J.Mega or Greg Valentine were stellar rappers. Still, with what sounds like a chopped Curtis Mayfield score (congas and all), DJ Premier gave reason for this New York duo to sound good and still be in conversation a decade later. B-list rappers today ought to keep room in their budgets for Premier instead of the textbook Akon feature move. This is “Come Clean” on steroids.


“Unbelievable” by The Notorious B.I.G. (Bad Boy, 1994)

Biggie and Premo had a chemistry that exceeds the mixmaster’s simultaneous work with Jay-Z and Nas. This is evident of just that, with lyrical delivery matching the percussion near perfectly. The pounding thumps is the result of beat manipulation that makes the sample almost unidentifiable—De La’s “Potholes,” “Ultra’s “Ego Trippin” or anything else that uses said lift sound nothing like this. The producer built in the chorus, a signature that Alchemist would later emulate.


“Supa Star” by Group Home (Payday, 1996)


The question is, does a great production inspire the lyricist or does it make you overlook his flaws? Group Home may never inspire a debate about lyrical quotables but their Premier helmed debut, Livin’ Proof, illustrates that meeting somewhere halfway can mean a masterpiece. If anyone has the “Supa Dupa Star (1994 June Demo Version)” from the “Livin’ Proof” vinyl flip, do share.  


 “The Militia” by Gang Starr featuring Big Shug & Freddie Foxxx (Virgin/Noo Trybe, 1998)

Like Lil’ Jon or D/R Period, DJ Premier can make a fight-inciting music. With samples of everything from train conductor announcements to ad-libs, this mosaic music arguably was a single catalyst for Freddie Foxxx’s Industry Shakedown album two years later, and Shug’s Who’s Hard? in 2005. Few rap songs outside of M.O.P. and Boot Camp Clik have ever celebrated the knuckle game to this extent, and with a sequel and a remix, the Militia was a voltron of Hip-Hop truth preserved by ugly force.


“Physical Stamina” by Jeru the Damaja featuring Afu-Ra (Payday, 1996)

Critics and fans praise The Sun Rises in the East for its attitude and formal Jeru introduction. However Wrath of the Math caught Jeru amidst Premier’s creative transition period. Few joints ever went this far beyond convention. With circuit-bending like sounds, DJ Premier arguably rolled out a red carpet for what would come a year later with Timbaland and The Neptunes. Organized chaos never sounded so gully.


“Words I Manifest (Remix)” by Gang Starr (Wild Pitch, 1989)


Note to would be contenders, makes sure your crates are deep. New to the Gang Starr fold, on this No More Mr. Nice Guy standout Premier bring the Jazz aesthetic with a Donald Byrd sax solo that he has converse with a James Brown break, which becomes a stunning amalgamation of swing and boom bap. “Hope to be, dope as me,” said Guru of his technique, or was he talking about Premo?


“Speak Ya Clout” by Gang Starr featuring Jeru The Damaja & Lil Dap (Chrysalis, 1994)
Most producers struggle to put together one head-nodder, on “Speak Ya Clout” from the underrated Hard To Earn, he drops a three for one special. Jeru sets it off over rambunctious drums, Lil Dap assaults moody rimshots and Guru gets a funky assembly of staccato guitar licks. Premier simultaneously demonstrates his charity with the bounce to his Gang Starr Foundation members and his deft tailoring their groove’s moods.


“The 6th Sense” by Common (MCA, 2000)

“If revolution had a movie I’d be theme music,” raps Common. So be it, just make Premier the conductor responsible for creating that score. No disrespect to Kanye West, but Lonnie Rashid Lynn, Jr. already had a classic, or two, under his belt, Like Water for Chocolate, which included this bit of assistance from a trusty contributor. New Premo? Nah, we’ll take the old and current one, thank you very much.



Oh sh*t, we didn’t include an MOP joint…







Comments

 

Hoodgrown said:

Primo has always put it down..
for every Primo song that's up here ...I can think of 10 more that need to be...

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August 28, 2007 2:40 PM
 

Jaybëëzle said:

Premo been doin it since forever...I didn't even know dude was that old though, I thought he was older. He got way more bangers than posted on here.....
August 28, 2007 2:46 PM
 

Boss Up said:

the most underrated producer next to Quik in the rap game...he's a Hip Hop legend
August 28, 2007 2:51 PM
 

Shtaylor said:

Yeah Primo is one of the top 5 hip hop producers out there he doesn't get the recognition that he should.

Primo
Dr. Dre
Timbaland
Beats by the pound(no limit days)
N.O. Joe and Bido(Rap-A-Lot)
Neptunes
Eric sermon
Pete rock
Jermaine Dupri
Daz
August 28, 2007 2:54 PM
 

SPATE Magazine All Day said:

I had the pleasure to meet Preemo and he a really good dude. What up Preem.
August 28, 2007 2:56 PM
 

King Prophet62 said:

He is actually my fav producer period. I hav so much instrumentals from this dude...it's sik. Peace & Love!!!
August 28, 2007 2:57 PM
 

SouthEnd Jamal! said:

Primo for me is top three behind Dre and Rick Ruben, I love this dudes work cause its so damn real and you cant help but feel it
August 28, 2007 3:13 PM
 

Dj Carl Larado said:

Primo is killin' most with just his technicality alone.  The only person that comes close is Al.  But to take fractions of a second of a record to flip...come on now?!?!  Plus he's a real digger and you can hear that in the music.  Definitely part of a dying breed...(in the U.S. at least)
August 28, 2007 3:13 PM
 

stayhumble said:

SUCH A FUCKING LEGEND!!!!!!!!  Kanye, Just, Timbo, Polow, Al, Dre and whoever else-this is definitely the G.O.A.T. (and all you fucks that dont know hip hop history-GURU is from Boston and Premier is from Houston)
August 28, 2007 3:24 PM
 

StripeKing said:

Forever Primo...forever you fools!
August 28, 2007 3:34 PM
 

Dj Carl Larado said:

I almost forgot....DILLA!!!!!! (chopping samples)
August 28, 2007 3:40 PM
 

StripeKing said:

Before you go halfway teaching "stay humble", allow me to clear up your falsifications. Guru is indeed from Boston--ROXBURY to be exact.
August 28, 2007 3:41 PM
 

Souman72 said:

THE G.O.A.T
NUFF SAID

WWW.SOULINK.NET
August 28, 2007 3:44 PM
 

MAK™ said:

LONG LIVE LEGENDARY PREMO!!!!

peep who is in my influences on here..

http://myspace.com/crackproductions

go figure...

-mak-
August 28, 2007 3:56 PM
 

MAK™ said:

AHH FORGOT...

NAS - NAS IS LIKE

JAY-Z - SO GHETTO

ROYCE DA 5'9 - BOOM

http://myspace.com/crackproductions

-mak-
August 28, 2007 4:02 PM
 

Fawn said:

Nice.
August 28, 2007 4:07 PM
 

BrennanTheBrown said:

Primo Has And Always Will Produced The Most Epic Beats In The Game. Real Talk.
August 28, 2007 4:24 PM
 

Sinistah aka Sin Piffcaso said:

thank you Primo, thank you AHH for bringin back the memories i had of all these songs when they first dropped....i'm a Primo junkie, fuck it.....
August 28, 2007 4:41 PM
 

SHWELL said:

Great article.. Very well deserved.. This has the potential to be a great series. This could have gone on forever with his library of releases... And he is still doing the damn thing.... No one Producer is the G.O.A.T. they all contribute to the game that is Hip Hop.... But we should def appreciate all of them for their contributions... I would def label Primo the God Father of Hip Hop fundamentals... He is an Ill DJ and a better Producer.. It gets no better....
August 28, 2007 4:53 PM
 

Tha Illness859 said:

There will never be a new Preemo, he's in a class by himself...a hip-hop legend no doubt
August 28, 2007 5:02 PM
 

illseeds knowledge said:

how you gunna be a fan of a producer and not know how to spell that niggas name its PREMO not Primo
August 28, 2007 5:03 PM
 

Antmanwonder said:

The reason I do what I do... Cotdamn that M.O.P... sheesh, not to mention the sixth sense, one of my favorite of all time. Werd to Premo.
August 28, 2007 6:05 PM
 

IceDrippinz said:

How U gonna list Premo joints and don't add Nas' "I Gave U Power" or "Nas Is Like?"
August 28, 2007 6:38 PM
 

Mornin Man said:

I can listen to the "Royalty" & "It's All Real" instrumentals all day. Props to Waxmaster C!!
August 28, 2007 6:43 PM
 

Darnell004 said:

Yo Premo the best producer. The man has been doing it for years and still maintaining. With so many good beats that he produced it's hard to pick the best one.
August 28, 2007 7:03 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

Yo, I gotta whole primo section in my record collection.

My favourite beat that he ever did is the jawn for Freddy Foxx call a part of my life.

I wish we could battle instrumentals.

is there anyway to post them on here?

Yo, I met primo one time in Fat Beats in NYC. I was standin next to him on the side where the got the classics.

Not the side where they have the new stuff and I noticed it was him and screamed like a chick.

I snatched up an Afura rekkid I already had and I asked him to sign it.

He did and told me Tommy Boy was all fucked up for the handling of the DITC album.

-Black People
August 28, 2007 7:05 PM
 

bvill-e said:

Salute !!!!!!!!!

"PREMO" the best that ever DUN IT!!!!!

IF HIPHOP AINT DEAD IT'S DAMN SURE IN A COMA !!!!!!
August 28, 2007 7:50 PM
 

Qwan said:

August 28, 2007 8:01 PM
 

westbankmarrero said:

premo is one of the best but when it comes to creativity, aint none of them seeing timbo period
August 28, 2007 8:58 PM
 

InvisibleManAkaBIgHOmie said:

                         TOP TEN PRODUCERS


1. THE RZA
2. Premiere
3. Dr. Dre
4. Al Chemist
5. Havoc
6. Beatnuts
7. Timbaland
8. Neptunes
9. Mannie Fresh
10. That dude that produced Jayz's Reasonable Doubt, something Ski  (under rated PRoducer)



   
August 28, 2007 9:17 PM
 

InvisibleManAkaBIgHOmie said:

                         TOP TEN PRODUCERS


1. THE RZA
2. Premiere
3. Dr. Dre
4. Al Chemist
5. Havoc
6. Beatnuts
7. Timbaland
8. Neptunes
9. Mannie Fresh
10. That dude that produced Jayz's Reasonable Doubt, something Ski  (under rated PRoducer)



   
August 28, 2007 9:17 PM
 

Qwan said:

August 28, 2007 9:45 PM
 

Ol_Skool_K said:

Hottest 80s Hip Hop producers: (no particular order)

1. 45 King
2. Davy D
3. Herbie The Love Bug
4. Teddy Riley
5. Rick Rubin & Russell Rush
6. Hit Man Howie T
7. Mantronix
8. E and PMD
9. Bomb Squad
10. Marley Marl
11. Eric B
12. Scott La Rock (RIP)
13. Jazzy Jeff
14. Q Tip / Ali Shaheed
15. Premo

Who did I forget ???
August 28, 2007 9:58 PM
 

gullyjuice_ahh said:

Real talk....homie made me like Biggie. I was not checking for dude like that.  One evening while doing some homework, I was listening to Hot97 when I heard the beat for Unbelievable drop.  I looked away from my algebra and looked at the radio as if to say "What the F*ck is that?".  I swear to you, every radio on my block, even the cars that passed, was blasting that song.  See, Premier makes emcees better.  His beats bring out the best in the best.  Check the catalogue.  Best producer in hip hop.  Hands down...
August 28, 2007 10:24 PM
 

Ol_Skool_K said:

Oh, forgot

Bobcat
Afika Bamabaataa
Eddie F
Dr Dre - He been puttin' it in for a long time, definiely gets my most consistent award.
August 28, 2007 10:25 PM
 

Real Hip Hop Since 1977 said:

Premos is the eastcoast King of DJ-ing .......Premo influenced a lot of cats to become DJ's...... Premos production is so nice his songs are often called classics even if wack MC rhymes to his beats....

Group Home's Livin Proof album/instrumentals should have been Nas entire second (It Was Written) album...

That would have outdone Nas's illmatic cd.....The only song I would have kept the same on Nas's second album was If I Ruled The World with Lauren Hill......

Nas and Premo...a whole entire album together.... They need to make that happen for the sake of hip-hop....RealTalk
August 28, 2007 10:32 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

Yo, Realhiphop I been tryin to start that rumour up about the nas and preem album

but yo
here we go

next I'll do the dopest beats of all time but first, the best hip hop producers ever...

1  Pete Rock
2  Dr Dre
3  Beatnuts
4  Primo
5  Marley Marl
6  Large Professor
7  Diamond D
8  The Ummah (A Tribe Called Quest plus Jay-Dee)
9  RZA
10 DJ Muggs/Easy Moe Bee
 
The official list, cousin. Of all time.
Honorable mentions, urban pop dudes, and suckas who don't know what the fuck the Ultimate Breaks and Beats are have been omitted.

I ain't know it was beatheads here.

But yo, y'all keep this shit goin so we can rap some more tomorrow.

out.
I'll catch y'all tomorrow.

-Black People
August 29, 2007 12:40 AM
 

KINGDONG said:

YA'LL KATS FORGETTIN ABOUT PETE ROCK, D.I.T.C AKA DIGGIN IN THE CRATES CREW,SHOCKLEY BROTHERS,DJ KENNY PARKER(BDP),PRINCE PAUL, NO ID(COMMON SENSE),LARGE PROFESSOR, KG(NAUGHTY BY NATURE)MR MIXX (2 LIVE CREW) AMOS LARKINS (STARTED THAT MIAMI BASS MUSIC)DJ QUIK,DJ POOH,JOHNNY J,BATTLECAT,TONE & POKE ,EASY MOE BEE,HI TEK, SKI BEATS,JAZ O,BEATMINERZ,...........JUST A FEW KATZ THAT PEOPLE SEEM TO FORGET ABOUT.........
August 29, 2007 1:22 AM
 

lightningrodbob said:

Top 10 Producers

1.  Premier
2.  RZA
3.  Dr. Dre
4.  Timbaland
5.  Pete Rock
6.  Havoc
7.  DJ Quik
8.  The Neptunes
9.  Eric Sermon
10.  Organized Noize
August 29, 2007 2:37 AM
 

Ital said:

"My daughter found Nemo, I found the new Premo.  'Ye you know how we do."

If you found the new Premo, why did Kanye mimic Premier's exact production style on "The Game" (which by the way was the best track on Finding Forever and one of the few tracks deserving replay)?

Premier is a living legend.  He's up there with the greats in music in any genre.

Much appreciated.
August 29, 2007 7:23 AM
 

revsincere said:

definitely a very highly under rated producer
August 29, 2007 8:14 AM
 

k33 said:

primo is tha best...thas fo sho.
August 29, 2007 8:15 AM
 

kinglopo said:

Premo is the BEST HIP HOP producer. J Dilla is the best all round producer, cause dilla shit is the definition of good music, but premo shit is the definition of hip hop.

Check these cats out

http://www.myspace.com/acmatic

and if u did, theres more than 2 songs now
August 29, 2007 8:46 AM
 

Metropolis Gold_ahh said:

SupaStar by Group Home is one of my favorite beats.
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August 29, 2007 8:46 AM
 

Flushill401 said:

Damn homie, good looking on this can't even explain how I feel right now after listening to these songs. Shit brought me back like crazy. Premo is definitely the G.O.A.T.  
August 29, 2007 9:01 AM
 

Curry Media said:

Why are these young kids saying that Premo is underrated?   He's the Miles Davis of hip hop...Just beacuse he's not on the radio doesnt mean he has an extensive fan base...He might not be making T.I. money, but on the real worldwide, he gets more respect...plus he took sampling to another level with his chopping techniques and sampling obscure sounds...
August 29, 2007 9:11 AM
 

boston3brown said:

this sentence says it ALL..
See, Premier makes emcees better.  His beats bring out the best in the best.  Check the catalogue.  Best producer in hip hop.  Hands down...
There really is no debating the issue.
August 29, 2007 9:29 AM
 

BKLYNMANN77 said:

One of,  or if not the best producer in the game hands down. His beats it what New York hip hop sound is all about. Very underrated producer. Deserves way more credit. Some of my personal favorite Premo beats:

Come clean-Jeru the damaja
Full clip-Gangstarr
Take it personal-Gangstarr
Ex girl to next girl-Gangstarr
Gotta get over-Gangstarr
Mass appeal-Gangstarr
Code of the streets-Gangstarr
Ny state of mind-Nas
Represent-Nas
10 crack commandments-biggie
Livin proof-group home

Too many more. Dude is a legend





August 29, 2007 9:50 AM
 

blastchoas said:

those areny even the classic ones...what half a hip hop fan made that list....but yeah preemo is undeniable the essence of hip hop when it comes to producers
August 29, 2007 9:50 AM
 

BKLYNMANN77 said:

Wow blast... you must be half a hip hop fan i see, if you don't think these were just a few classic Premo beats. You obviously don't know a good beat. It don't gotta sound commercial, or played over the radio a million times to be dope.
August 29, 2007 11:19 AM
 

SeanPapi said:

The greatest to ever do it, in my opinion... & I'm from Detroit (J-DILLA country), but that's the gospel.

When you have "a sound" & can instantly recognize who's beat after 4-8bars, you're in that class.  Don't shout his own name out in songs/don't try to rhyme/not on the radio every other song..... just does his job better than most.  Respect, Preem.

My DJ Priemere Fave 5:
1. *Come Clean- Jeru
2.  Kick in the Door- Biggie
3.  Nas is Like....- Nas
4.  Take it Personal/DWYCK- Gangstarr
5.  BOOM- Royce Nickel-Nine (5'9)
August 29, 2007 1:43 PM
 

shankswinger said:

About time this man gets the proper respect! That Verbal Threat track "Reality Check" was the sickest banger for 07! What all star producer serves the street mc's, major artists, and still has time to rock a radio show and tours! Bow down and pay your spects to the one and only BEST PRODUCER TO EVER DO IT! quote me on that
Group Home in 08!
August 29, 2007 1:45 PM
 

jcasado1 said:

IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER

DJ PREMIER
RZA
PETE ROCK
DR DRE
LARGE PROFESSOR
THE ALCHEMIST
HAVOC
DIAMOND D

TO NAME A FEW
August 29, 2007 1:49 PM
 

blastchoas said:

come clean
dwyck
friend or foe
kick in the door
mass appeal
code of the streets
ex girl
jewelz
up against the wall both versions
shit is real
yeah but half hip hop fan
August 29, 2007 2:58 PM
 

B-STYLE said:

The best producer in my opinion. Always get overlooked because he doesn't do commercial joints.  But his joints are what make albums classics.  Niggas betta take notice and pay that nigga homage to save this east coast shit.  His beats are New York City. real talk!

P.S. the return of the Crooklyn Dodgers is the best
August 29, 2007 3:09 PM
 

Never Satisfied said:

It is funny because everybody was laughing at me when I was pumping Gangstarr back in the day. DJ Premier creates beats that make you feel good. He produced to many classics to name. He is my favorite producer of all time.
August 29, 2007 3:36 PM
 

Xross said:

BIG UP PRIMO!


and I gotchu with the "Supa Dupa Star" (June 1994 Demo Version)  http://www.zshare.net/audio/33765206a3f89f/
August 29, 2007 3:42 PM
 

GT[Godtactics] said:

Primo and J Dilla are both the most Underrated!! I don't know who to put ahead of who in a rating but these two could produce a full album for me anyday!! R.I.P. Dilla Dog!!
August 29, 2007 4:18 PM
 

BLAK4DMD said:

this dude is a legend nobody can debate that!!
he is eastcoast hip hop in the flesh



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August 29, 2007 6:44 PM
 

odeisel said:

great piece man i didnt even see it coming!  
August 29, 2007 8:30 PM
 

tha clear said:

we all from the ghetto only difference we go back
back in D&D on this primo track
August 29, 2007 10:38 PM
 

Metal Lungies » Blog Archive » “Credit Is Due,” you say? said:

August 30, 2007 1:23 AM
 

Big Nate said:

1. Unless I hear it from "PREMO" (lmao at all these dummies sayin Primo smh) I just don't beleeve dude's from Houston, Texas. That dude is just too East Coast (or that dude mean he from Houston St. in NY?)
2. That dude is the G.O.A.T. for producers. His beats are so crazy they make rappers step they game up just to compare. He is the ONLY producer to where I only heard about 1/2 of his track library and EVERY SINGLE ONE either goes hard/CLASSIC.
August 30, 2007 1:44 AM
 

tha starr said:

If he ain't the best, then he's top 3 without a doubt. I think his chemistry with certain rappers is ill. Like 2nd Childhood on Stillmatic, it's not his best beat, but when you hear it you just know it's perfect for Nas' flow. That's synergy for y'all.
August 30, 2007 3:18 AM
 

Thenewcomer said:

I Will Never Forgot (1.Come Clean By Jeru the Damage, )
(2.The Actually) And (3.Words that I manifest) were sweet tracks Too.

Come Clean Is A Outer Wordly Track
I Was Able Too Find It On Youtube by Seraching For Jeru The Damage

The Thing I Like About Preimer, Is He consitently Continues To Hit The Us WIth Bangers


August 30, 2007 6:47 AM
 

Conman said:

Premo is a beast & the next rapper co-signed is Royce 5 9 .just did a mixtape killin Primo beats"The Bar Exam".His next album Executive producer is gonna be Primo"Street-Hop".I got no doubt its gonna murder everything out now.The best producer in the game wit probably the nastiest emcee in the game.I cant wait
August 30, 2007 12:06 PM
 

A.Mann said:

Question fior the author:
Why these tracks?

Great tracks all but seriously I can name about 20 other bangers that would be a better intro to Works Of Mart for the uninitiated
August 30, 2007 1:52 PM
 

Thenewcomer said:

A Few OF Premiere's Tracks Are Like Crack Rocks They Keep You Hooked

See That's What alot People Don't UnderStand .Now Days People Seem To Just choose any Old Track, And Most Of It's Crundified OR Pop Sounding ,Most of it dosen't have soul.

I Will not listen Too alot Mc's Or RB Singers Unless They Can Catch Me With A Hot Track Or At least half Way Decent Beats(All Though All Tracks On album Can't Be Fire), But About Half of the album should have Great Tracks, Alot Mc's and consumers Don't Seem too understand That

Production  Is What Hiphop Was Build On.
August 30, 2007 2:55 PM
 

Coma said:

duh.
(4 da sleepers1)
August 30, 2007 3:50 PM
 

Thee_Apocalyptic_One said:

Why do people always mention Dre, when he is constantly accused of the same thing Puffy does, signing his name to beats that are concocted by other producers.  So if you list Dre as top 10 then Puff should be there too.  I ain't never heard anyone say that Primo, Pete Rock, Large Professor, etc took credit for a beat that they didn't make. But you heard thr Hitmen (Puff), and Above The Law, Daz, Warren G and a few lesser knowns claim that Dre rode their beats to fame
September 1, 2007 6:07 PM
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