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Top 5 Dead Or Alive: Jigsaw, Co-founder of AllHipHop.com 
Published Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:57 AM
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By Chuck “Jigsaw” Creekmur, co-founder of AllHipHop.com

So, my name is Chuck “Jigsaw” Creekmur and I am one of the two co-founders of this website. I’ve been looking at this Top 5 Dead Or Alive AllHipHop series like, “I want to tell the people my list...but I don’t want my favorite rappers to get crucified, by the Ill Community!” Not that anybody would care what I think, but this age-old argument goes back to my school days. We would argue every lunch about what rapper was the best, which MC had the illest lyrics and nobody would concede – EVER! We would just go back and forth like a broken record…or…messed up MP3.


Anyway, the other side of compartmentalizing your favorite rappers to a mere FIVE is almost disrespectful. I literally have no less than 15 “Top 5 Dead Or Alive.” It presents a moral dilemma not to include Krs-One, Nas, Big Pun, Scarface, Ice Cube, Tupac and Notorious B.I.G. when they are actually some of my favorite rappers.


So, in order for me to make this list, I took the top rappers that have affected me in ways that extended beyond music. Obviously, the music is the cornerstone, but this list consists my personal Top 5 rappers that have affected my LIFE. Let it be known…


CHUCK D OF PUBLIC ENEMY



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For some reason Chuck D of Public Enemy never makes these lists. I think its safe to say this is because Chuck D isn’t a typical battle rapper. He gets in battles, but its not other artists – its governments, politicians, and other nefarious forces like war mongers. Because he doesn’t disrespect other rappers doesn’t discount him for inclusion in the Top 5. Chuck D is absolutely one of the illest lyricists ever. You want hardcore, unrelenting rhymes? “Rebel Without A Pause” You want Class A story telling? “Black Steel In The Hour Of Chaos.” You want influence? “Fight The Power” Listen. Chuck D captured all of my rebellious energy and helped give me a purpose beyond my immediate life. His voice is booming and powerful. His lyrics speak truth to the power and the powerless alike. In fact, if you look at what Chuck D, you can never understate the positive impact he and PE had on people of all races and backgrounds. Chuck did this though lyrics and The Bomb Squad did it with the beats. But, don’t sleep, Carlton Douglas Ridenhour is an emcee that deemed himself the “Rhyme Animal” and he was not to be played with even when he was inspiring people. On top of it all, Chuck D and the PE crew have a stage show that is second to none with a super DJ, the best hypeman in Flavor Flav, the militaristic S1W’s and a band.


“Fight The Power”


REDMAN




Back in the 90’s there wasn’t as much emphasis on release dates, but I’ll never forget when Redman’s CD debut dropped. I listened to that CD in the middle of class I was taking. So flagrant, so disrespectful, but I couldn’t wait. I had followed Reggie Noble from the second he rapped on an EPMD record and his lyrics shined like a light on the darkest night. A lot of acts get credit for reinventing themselves, but Redman was a master. Also, up until he dropped the unfortunate Malpractice, Redman was the king of consistency. He held it down with the Hit Squad, the Def Squad and he and Method man partner up to this day. Lyrically, he can stare just about anybody in the eyes and bundles that with a rambunctious style that is practically visual. Redman also gave me some gems to live by. Even though he is now the poster man for weed smoking, he once said, “No need to puff or sniff it, because I was born with it.” Loved that, since I’m a different sort of dude that doesn’t smoke at all. I love rappers that step out on a limb and make the daring, bold moves and back it up with lyrics of fury.


“The Head Banger” EPMD Feat. K-Solo & Redman (Red dumbed out on this)



JAY-Z



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I have an admission. I was a latecomer to the Jay-Z parade. I mean, I was a fan in the 90’s, but I didn’t really start drinking the Hip-Hop Kool Aid until the Vol. 2: Hard Knock Life in 1998. The early 90’s were so competitive and you had a lot of emcees competing for the same space and attention. Also, the gods of rap (Rakim, Kool G Rap, Big Daddy Kane and others were still extremely prominent) But the time the late 90’s kicked in, Jay-Z was leading the pack and had a movement with him. Songs like “U Don’t Know” and "Dirt Off Your Shoulder" are songs to live by. Unlike some of my other favorites, Jay-Z can make people dance, nod, and spit bars that make the most critical fan make “the ugly face.” There’s really not an artist with more versatility. On top of it all, Jay-Z’s business acumen has him at the top of the revenue chain without releasing any music. Performing for President Obama? I’m done.


"Resevoir Dogs" - Jay-Z with Beanie Sigel and The Lox



DMC of RUN DMC




Some people might question this one. I would chalk it up to age, ignorance or just stupidity. Before I get into lyrics, I want to establish this: DMC is one of the most influential rappers ever as well as one of the finest. You can hear his technique in a lot of the rappers in the South (like my homey Bun B – respect due), you can hear his bars in Top 5 rappers like Biggie Smalls and Redman. He and Run also ghostwrote for the Beastie Boys on their first album, Licensed to Ill.


Now, lets get down to the gully part. It is difficult to separate the group, because Run and DMC were larger than life figures in rap – they were the Super Heroes of Hip-Hop. To make the distinction between Run and D is simple. I could see myself in DMC. He read comics. He could draw. He called himself “Quiet Storm.” He was the King of Rock. I could relate. Run was more out front aggressive and cocky, equally important in rap. Lyrically, I note that DMC absolutely SET IT OFF on some of Run DMC’s biggest songs. Think” “My Adidas” and “King of Rock.” Like Chuck D, his voice was like an explosion and he ushered in a New School of Rap through pure hard rhyming. Peep:


It's highly appraised when the hell is raised

So demanding and commanding that you all stand dazed

The unbelieving receiving prophesy so true

I cut the head off the Devil and I throw it at you

My mighty mic control, already bought his soul

The rock king is so bold when he rocks and roll

A black hat is my crown, symbolizing the sound

Signifying, we won't play around


Now, I am not a fool. I know that when these raps were written in ’86 before some of you were even born. It may be hard to conceptualize why DMC is over somebody like Big Daddy Kane or Nas. The point is this; DMC was a rapper that wasted just about everything that came before him. Lyrically, he was ridiculous and his impact can be seen to this day. There is a reason Run didn’t want to be a performer without D, even at Russell’s insistence. It’s DMC.


KOOL G RAP



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One of my best friend’s favorite rapper is Big Daddy Kane. Mine is Kool G Rap. We once had an “argument” over who was better in the middle of a Big Daddy Kane concert. Classic. After that show, I walked over to Kane and said something like, “Kane, you are one of the best, but Kool G Rap is my favorite of all time.” And Kane coolly responded, “Mine too.”


Here it is with Kool G Rap. He ethers your favorite emcee hands down. With G, I can go bar for bar with any rapper on the face of the earth and prove this point. The stuff he did in the 80’s is more progressive than today’s rappers. What ever happened to evolution? Also, G Rap’s style heavily influenced the late, great Big Pun, Nas, Chino XL and other rappers like Notorious B.I.G. Far from an actor, G lived much of what he rapped about and that’s why he’s considered the “Donald Goines of Rap.” He was that second wave of “New School” writers that pushed the art forward in leaps and bounds (props to Rakim and BDK as well).


You want an epic adventure story? Check out “Thug Love Story Parts 1, 2 and 3” (from 1998’s Roots of Evil)



You want BARS? “Men at Work”



Collaboration? “The Realest” - Mobb Deep ft Kool G Rap


You want respect? Jay-Z, Jadakiss, The Game, Big Pun and many others through the years have name checked Kool G Rap as a barometer for their own greatness.


At my old job, in the 90’s, I successfully converted a Rakim fan and made him proclaim that G Rap was the best G.O.A.T. I didn’t do a lot of talking (well maybe I did). I really just played G’s rhymes and compared notes. He saw it my way. You might not, but Kool G Rap is still better than your favorite rapper.



Comments

 

Michael X said:

cool ass list right there..about time a list wasnt filled with the usual suspects...DMC has one of the best voices in hip hop...i like him on the hook for "My Downfall" by Biggie on Life After Death
February 19, 2009 11:14 AM
 

Mr.Ism said:

Honestly this is one the realest top 5's. You put up artist that had an enfluence on you or you grew up listening too. The average cat is a music hype beast.
February 19, 2009 11:19 AM
 

SAVAGE LIFE said:

sorry jigsaw but your list is basically the exact same as everybody else that had a top 5 so there is gonna be no difference in what we think.

come on ya'll. can we please get someone thats not from the new york/jersey area on this. lets go all around the country with it with people who is actually relevant to the game right now too. it would make it a lot more interesting. lets hear from wayne/juvie, tip/luda, z-ro/cham, game/whoever else from the west, etc.

lets also get some people that dn't just necessarily rap. lets try to get some athletes or actors. that might be asking too much but hey im just tryna make it interesting
February 19, 2009 11:23 AM
 

SuperGangster said:

ah respect it.. but its wack
February 19, 2009 11:24 AM
 

Water Ur Seeds said:

haha I still get goose bumps and drive like a dick head when I listen to Run DMC in the car, it just makes Me get hype lol...  G Rap is defo 1 of My greats... theres no big pun without him... Agree theres like atleast 15 top 5 MCs...
February 19, 2009 11:27 AM
 

Mr.Ism said:

I gotta homie that is 18 years old that is an MC. One day I was playing N.W.A niggaz for life. It got to about the 4th or 5th song and bro turned to me and said "That shit is dope, who is that?" whaow! Are you serious. I then put on Run Dmc's greatest hits. I got to about the 15th song; all the while I was asking who it was. He didn't know until it got to "king of Rock" and it said Run, Run, D m c. Whaow! I know this stuff was before his time but it's essential. We talking 2 of the greatest acts. With that being said that is why you will see a difference in a Rah Digga top 5 and a Cory Gunz. Young cats are gonna go with the current and obvious.  Mercy Deville where you at!?
February 19, 2009 11:28 AM
 

D.O.C said:

Much respect

great list
February 19, 2009 11:29 AM
 

D.O.C said:

Much respect

great list
February 19, 2009 11:29 AM
 

Mr.Ism said:

Top 5 doesn't always mean lyrical or iconic. Obviously people have different reasons for picking who they pick.
February 19, 2009 11:31 AM
 

coon66 said:

Red man lost it with me when him and meth started acting all goofy and shit but I heard that tonights da night and I had to go get some of that 93,94 redman
February 19, 2009 11:36 AM
 

DJ TEKNISION said:

GREATEST DEAD OR ALIVE MEANS ALL TIME NOT JUST WHO'S HOT RIGHT NOW.  THIS IS JUST HIS OPINION..EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN TOP 5.. IT'S JUST HARD FOR ME TO HAVE A TOP 5 BECAUSE EVERY EMCEE IS DIFFERENT, THEY SPEAK ON DIFFERENT TOPICS.  I LISTEN TO EMCEES BASED ON HOW I'M FEELING,  IF I FEEL GANSTA I WOULD LISTEN TO KOOL G, IF I WANT TO HEAR SOME WORDPLAY I WOULD LISTEN TO TALIB OR COMMON.  I WOULDN'T COMARE KOOL G WITH COMMON, THEIR TWO DIFFERENT TYPE OF EMCEES..


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February 19, 2009 11:38 AM
 

Jay322 said:

This list is one of the best.  I was born in 84 but I do remember Kool G., Run DMC, & PE.  I really do appreciate u puttin Redman on this list.  I live in Columbus and I can remember me my peeps walkin 2 school knockin that Whut Thee Album joint and Muddy Waters heavy.  I was a young'n back then.  Also Im glad 2 c u at mention ppl like Uncle Face who most ppl feel like had albums that werent up 2 par but I beg 2 differ.  It truely is hard 2 make a list of the top 5 MC's of all-time cause most ppl are bias neway so tryin 2 speak on it 2 sum ppl is just a lost cause.  My generation neway doesnt think outside the box, dont get me wrong sum cats out here do but majority of the ppl out here in my generation would put Wayne in their type 5 DOA.  It's sad because I remember how my brothers were when they listened 2 Rakim and NWA and PE and shit like that.  Ill give u another rapper 4real that I think if it wasnt for his accident would have been on of the illest 2 ever do it.  I know the West Coast knows who he is. D.O.C.  I feel his 1st joint was a classic album hands down.  I wont front I have 2 older brothers they were both born in the 70's so they are truely 80's babies. I always say 2 mom why did u wait so long 2 have me cause Im 9 yrs and 6 yrs younger than my bros.  The reason I say that is because as far as the music part goes Im a disgraced 2 say I came up wit this generation. It seems like niggas 4got what being a true mc was.  Everybody these days only care about how much bling or how many bricks a rapper say they move.  Like I had a dude tell me Gucci Mane was better than Jay-Z & T.I.  Its crazy cause it seems as though nowadays ppl cant be a fan of more than 1 rapper or if the rapper doesnt talk about movin bricks and bustin choppers then no1 is interested.  Its sad 2 say but its so true.  I just wish more ppl pay attention 2 this entry on the Top 5 saga and do their research and learn about the history of this genre of music.  Its more deeper than just talkin about bitches drugs and ur jewerly game.  I understand we have 2 accept change but all change isnt good.  I had a conversation wit my homeboy who said Gucci was better than Jay.  He said 2 me ur a fan of Jay and when u came out he was speakin on the same shit that Gucci was talkin about.  That statement is true but the difference is Jay didnt glorify being a drug dealer he glorified the money.  He also had something deep inside his rhymes so it wasnt just about the drugs.  On Beach Chair he said best.  "Ill prepare a blueprint 4 u 2 print a map 4 u 2 get back a guide 4 ur eyes so u wont lose scent I make it stink 4 u 2 think I ink these verses full of pros so u wont get conned out of 2 cent.  
February 19, 2009 11:44 AM
 

OnDeckMeno said:

Yeah love redman, love Kool G rap, and love public enemy. Love them!
February 19, 2009 11:45 AM
 

chuckcreekmur said:

SAVAGE LIFE said:
sorry jigsaw but your list is basically the exact same as everybody else that had a top 5 so there is gonna be no difference in what we think.

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I don't think my list is the same as every other list. I've looked at the other lists. Mine definitely has some people. Nobody has put DMC, Chuck D or Redman on their top 5 that I remember. And.The fact is, this is my personal list. I'm not going to put the D.O.C. on there just to make somebody happy. And I say D.O.C., because he's one my favorites of all times off one album basically. the same applies to cats from down south. Bun B, Scarface, Killer Mike. In fact, i was just on the phone with killer mike and he gave me his top 5. that list will be different that anything you ever saw. Anyway, i stressed this list is based on the rappers that affected my personal life...that's just what it is.

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SAVAGE LIFE said:

lets also get some people that dn't just necessarily rap. lets try to get some athletes or actors. that might be asking too much but hey im just tryna make it interesting

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This might actually be something we do. thanks for the suggestion.
February 19, 2009 11:45 AM
 

djvondada said:

Being that I'm 36 years young, I've seen the birth,the golden age, the BIGs, the PACs, Jays, Waynes, everything in between, and I still enjoy, DJ, produce, and support HIPHOP.  I have to say this is the best list I've seen thus far. You know what?  We've come a long way.  We shouldn't even have a "TOP 5" list anymore.  It should be more like 10-15.  I wanna see a Top 5 HIPHOP DJ list...... really test some of the younger dudes.  
February 19, 2009 11:49 AM
 

NightFall914 said:

Why do people cry about where a person's "5" comes from?And lets be real the EARLY rap scene was much more East coast/North east based anyway.

Agree, disagree and if you're not happy state ya own 5.Since when are these list put out to please people?Is that what Hip Hop is about?Doing things to make others happy?Do ya own thing and represent whatever MC's you want.

Much Respect for this list.
Kool G Raps lyrical inspirations get overlooked a lot.
February 19, 2009 11:50 AM
 

chuckcreekmur said:

i will say, i could have swapped a cpl ppl out with a couple others. like Big Pun for example. Biggie. Cube and Scarface. KRS-One. I could have easily put them right there. On the low, i think Crooked I is creeping way high on the list. He's just missing an album, but his lyrics are incredible.
February 19, 2009 11:50 AM
 

Asher "Black Bomb" Sommer said:

This list is great. A different approach to the
whole building. Chuck D is the number one when
it comes to Lyrics that make sense.
He is our Malcolm X in rap.A brother who never
wasted time on the mic by polluting our airwaves
with trash and adverts. But also basically after
PE everything has already been said and done
leaving no space for others to top what PE did.
PE are just perfect, so they are out of competition.

Redman is a lyrical animal. I enjoyed anything this
guy did. Every freestyle was a killer. Every record
worth the money spent. We don't get something
like this anymore.

Jay is overrated. He was great, but when he
talked retirement, he should have just retired.
Everything that came out past his retirement
in my eyes was trash compared to stuff he did
before. The first 4 Albums were killers.
But he by far doesn't reaches biggies level or
the one of a young and hungry Wu-Tang Clan.
or even early Nas. Also the biggest difference
him and Rap's greatest BIG was that BIG
never had a bad song. There was no single track
Biggie did, that disappointed. Jay is far from that
plus he doesn't have the magic that other rappers
have, once the make the stage.
February 19, 2009 11:57 AM
 

firehawk17 said:

Dog i cant much disagree with that...I was late to the Jay Z party also for me i would add Pac.. Cliche' right? well he has what every one of those rappers you just named on your list and an original style that cant readily be traced to anyone in particular.. LIke you said you can hear Big and Pun and see where they got their rhyme schemes or style from..But i say great list overall... and its very hard to just pluck 5 and say fuck the rest..
February 19, 2009 12:02 PM
 

The Mexican said:

Here's mine

1. 2pac
2. Nas or Scarface (I really can't choose)
3. Woodie
4. Mac Dre
5. Lupe Fiasco
February 19, 2009 12:06 PM
 

The Mexican said:

But I agree, top 5 is too damn hard. I feel guilty not putting some people in there.
February 19, 2009 12:08 PM
 

The Mexican said:

Oh shit I forgot Crooked I.  Sorry Lupe but it is what it is.
February 19, 2009 12:22 PM
 

poe said:

I respect that but where is Pac?
February 19, 2009 12:26 PM
 

EL TIGERASO said:

I WOULD NEVER PUT DMC IN MINE...BUT I CAN AGREE WIT DA REST
February 19, 2009 12:31 PM
 

The Mexican said:

AHH should do a list of their favorite hip hop group members.  Pick one out of the group and put them in a list.  That would be tough.
February 19, 2009 12:32 PM
 

delvec001 said:

its obvious he was a Pac hater !!!
February 19, 2009 12:35 PM
 

The Mexican said:

If he was a Pac hater he would have put Biggie up there.
February 19, 2009 12:38 PM
 

chuckcreekmur said:

yeah, favorite groups is something we need to do. I cant really even say that. sometimes my fav is run dmc, sometimes outkast, sometimes the geto boys, MOP, empd...i can never stick with one. If you don't like run dmc, you weren't there and just can't relate. that's ok too.
February 19, 2009 12:40 PM
 

chuckcreekmur said:

yeah, you don't know me to say I'm a pac hater. I'm not a pac hater...my friends know my connection to pac. we'll leave that at that.
February 19, 2009 12:43 PM
 

The Mexican said:

In no order

1. Proof- D-12
2. Scarface- Geto Boys
3. Billy Danze- M.O.P.
4. E-40- The Click
5. Daz- Tha Dogg Pound
6. Pimp C- U.G.K.
7. MJG- 8Ball and MJG
8. Kemo- Delinquent Habits
9. Mitchy Slick- Strong Arm Steady
10. Kadafi- Outlawz

I can't pick with Outkast or Wu-Tang
February 19, 2009 12:54 PM
 

amBIGuous1 said:

Awesome list!!!   ANd just awesome coverage on why.  So great to see G Rap and Chuck D (my personal fave...or maybe KRS lol) but just a breath of fresh air.

People sleep on Redman waaaayyyy too much and write him off but he is the embodiment of an Emcee.  Off the top, written, story telling, battle, punchlines...and a great live show!

Much respect Jigsaw and the best list i've read so far...so in line with my top 5.

Also, not sure if anyone else felt this but when i was reading thost DMC bars...i couldnt help but hear Jay's 99 problems in there

DMC:
My mighty mic control, already bought his soul
The rock king is so bold when he rocks and roll

Jay:
I got rap patrol, on the gat patrol
Foes wanna make sure my caskets closed

Might be reaching but cadence structure...IDK
February 19, 2009 1:04 PM
 

amBIGuous1 said:

Awesome list!!!   ANd just awesome coverage on why.  So great to see G Rap and Chuck D (my personal fave...or maybe KRS lol) but just a breath of fresh air.

People sleep on Redman waaaayyyy too much and write him off but he is the embodiment of an Emcee.  Off the top, written, story telling, battle, punchlines...and a great live show!

Much respect Jigsaw and the best list i've read so far...so in line with my top 5.

Also, not sure if anyone else felt this but when i was reading thost DMC bars...i couldnt help but hear Jay's 99 problems in there

DMC:
My mighty mic control, already bought his soul
The rock king is so bold when he rocks and roll

Jay:
I got rap patrol, on the gat patrol
Foes wanna make sure my caskets closed

Might be reaching but cadence structure...IDK
February 19, 2009 1:04 PM
 

ChevyGyrl09 said:

I like this list. You were not afraid to stray from the mainstream. You mixed the old with the new. Again this is an individual opinion and its good to see lists where people are not picking Jay, Biggie, and Pac b/c thats what everyone else is doing. Also I forget what show you were on recently speaking about hip hop influencing violence. I appreciate you standing up for the hip hop community.
February 19, 2009 1:21 PM
 

djvondada said:

A lot of young dudes would say these dudes are irrelevent.  But you gotta know ya roots in order to move forward. Like without a Chuck D, you might not have, say a Talib or Common.  Rakim to Nas, Big Daddy Kane to Jigga, Ice Cube to Game, ... man, without Kool G Rap, you wouldnt have a lot of dudes.  For real.
February 19, 2009 1:21 PM
 

daz156 said:

thank fruck no Pac (most over rated of all time) and no Biggie (over rated aswell- but still had skills)
Good choices especially for older heads that grew up with Run DMC and moved on to Public Enemy, certainly helped me become political (thanks Chuck) and Redmans Whut ? Thee Album is a killer from start to finish even now 17-18 years on (WOW HOW LONG ??)
I aint feelin Jay like that and I would have many others before him from Wu members to KRS to Rakim to Pun to Cube even Ice T for laying the Blueprint of what most rappers only dream of these days.

February 19, 2009 1:23 PM
 

daz156 said:

thank fruck no Pac (most over rated of all time) and no Biggie (over rated aswell- but still had skills)
Good choices especially for older heads that grew up with Run DMC and moved on to Public Enemy, certainly helped me become political (thanks Chuck) and Redmans Whut ? Thee Album is a killer from start to finish even now 17-18 years on (WOW HOW LONG ??)
I aint feelin Jay like that and I would have many others before him from Wu members to KRS to Rakim to Pun to Cube even Ice T for laying the Blueprint of what most rappers only dream of these days.

February 19, 2009 1:24 PM
 

Kappagem said:

Man...

Ya'll be seriously trippin' on here...

If someone from the West gets on here (they've already done that, haven't they?), I'll bet 3-4 of their fav's will probably be from the East too.  It's not a knock on other locations...it's just people's preferences.  They say TOP 5 based on mostly lyrical dexterity, I promise you.

If you said greatest producers, or greatest songs, or whatever, you might get some different perspectives.  Long story short, it's not an "accident" that you keep seeing the same "usual suspects" per se....what do you expect???

Greatness is obvious...

I wasn't mad at these at all....they actually are different...
February 19, 2009 1:25 PM
 

Speculative said:

Refreshing to see a list with good justification.

Nas and Pun are too hard to leave out but none-the-less, top list.
February 19, 2009 1:28 PM
 

Speculative said:

Refreshing to see a list with good justification.

Nas and Pun are too hard to leave out but none-the-less, top list.
February 19, 2009 1:32 PM
 

BKLYNMANN77 said:

Good list
February 19, 2009 2:16 PM
 

chuckcreekmur said:

  The Mexican said:
In no order

1. Proof- D-12
2. Scarface- Geto Boys
3. Billy Danze- M.O.P.
4. E-40- The Click
5. Daz- Tha Dogg Pound
6. Pimp C- U.G.K.
7. MJG- 8Ball and MJG
8. Kemo- Delinquent Habits
9. Mitchy Slick- Strong Arm Steady
10. Kadafi- Outlawz

------------------------------
Now thats a LIST. A lot of people don't know Mitchy, but Tiggeration Station is one of my favorite Cds ever.
February 19, 2009 2:18 PM
 

SEVERE SWAGGA said:

FINALLY SUM 1 PUT G-RAP ON THERE LIST ..DASS WUSS UP..PRETTY GOOD LIST REDMAN WAS 1 OF MY FAVORITES BAC IN DA DAYZ 2....
February 19, 2009 2:49 PM
 

T-ROC said:

That's what's up I respect that list. Jigsaw added Redman got to respect that. I think people tend to forget what Redman adds to the game. He makes it cool to just be yourself. Rhyme how you feel. It ain't always about guns, rhyme about having fun sometimes.
February 19, 2009 2:50 PM
 

SEVERE SWAGGA said:

FINALLY SUM 1 PUT G-RAP ON THERE LIST ..DASS WUSS UP..PRETTY GOOD LIST REDMAN WAS 1 OF MY FAVORITES BAC IN DA DAYZ 2....
February 19, 2009 2:56 PM
 

SouthernFried said:

I feel like we sell ourselves short trying to narrow down greatness we are apart of one of the greatest art forms if not the greatest and we belittle the music by saying a top 5. We can argue atleast 25 MC's or groups that can be mentioned in the same sentence with GREAT.

Its about ones opinion and I respect his opinion but I do find it funny that  some eastcoast niggaz always complain about the same 5 then when someone goes outside the norm from ya area you hate his list and want to put the same niggaz in everybody top 5.

I dont hear yall argue GURU's case, or LL's case, or Kane's case, or black thought. How can yall be from that region and over look their work. (Im not saying that in an agressive way I just find it funny)
February 19, 2009 2:59 PM
 

mr.201973 said:

February 19, 2009 3:30 PM
 

theillseed said:

this confirms that  i will do illseed's top 5 dead or alive.
February 19, 2009 3:46 PM
 

thecampaign said:

My top five no particular order

PAC          CUBE
FACE         RAKIM/KANE
DRE 3000
February 19, 2009 3:53 PM
 

SMALLZSPACE said:

February 19, 2009 3:58 PM
 

chuckcreekmur said:

I have to admit, Three Stacks could have made it, but I need that solo CD of him rappin'
February 19, 2009 4:01 PM
 

chuckcreekmur said:

I have to admit, Three Stacks could have made it, but I need that solo CD of him rappin'....i loved The Love Below tho
February 19, 2009 4:04 PM
 

Who Better said:

Im glad Redman made someones list.
February 19, 2009 4:29 PM
 

chuckcreekmur said:

i could easily have an alternate list that said 1) ice cube 2) nas 3) big daddy kane 4)scarface 5)Nas and been dead up serious as this list
February 19, 2009 4:54 PM
 

Samson09 said:

February 19, 2009 5:19 PM
 

myspace.com/lord wrecka said:

peace

Good list..Let me add my two cents

LORD WRECKA TOP FIVE LYRACIST...

RAKIM
KRS ONE
NAS
SCARFACE
AZ

 
February 19, 2009 5:41 PM
 

therealist209 said:

I saw a reader post this on Rah Digga's list  Illseed you should holla at some rappers from other regions and get some diversity in these list.
February 19, 2009 5:52 PM
 

smackabitch said:

HERE WEV GO AGAIN SOME MO JAYZ DICK RIDING
February 19, 2009 5:55 PM
 

WolfgangWashington said:

WOOOOWW!! Its about time someone put Kool G. Rap (your favorite rappers favorite rapper) on this list. The dude had the most consistant couplets ever. He created a style like no other before him. He soldified his spot when he bodied Kane(with all due respect) on The Symphony (MY VOICE IS TWICE AS HORRIFYING AS VINCENT PRICE!!!). It was so bad that he had to anchor The Symphony Part 2. Look it up. Classics  like The Streets of NY, Truly Yours, Road to Riches and Ill Street Blues.  Dudes albums can't match that one song!

AND you even put my all time favorite! CHUCK D!!! PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER 1!!! I said he was the best in '88...and dudes said I was buggin then. Chuck D had the voice...the lyrics, the energy...the dude is a monster. It Takes A Nation of Millions To Holds Us Back is probably the best hip hop album ever recorded. Chuck was the epitome of hardcore Rebel without a pause BUT with a cause. Say no more just listen to that album then listen to SHUT EM DOWN!!! SHUT 'EM SHUT 'EM DOWN!!!

MEAN LIST JIG WORD. AND WE ALL KNOW HOV IS THE BEST OUT WITHOUT QUESTION.   THIS WAS A FIRE TOP 5.
February 19, 2009 6:00 PM
 

WolfgangWashington said:

WOOOOWW!! Its about time someone put Kool G. Rap (your favorite rappers favorite rapper) on this list. The dude had the most consistant couplets ever. He created a style like no other before him. He soldified his spot when he bodied Kane(with all due respect) on The Symphony (MY VOICE IS TWICE AS HORRIFYING AS VINCENT PRICE!!!). It was so bad that he had to anchor The Symphony Part 2. Look it up. Classics  like The Streets of NY, Truly Yours, Road to Riches and Ill Street Blues.  Dudes albums can't match that one song!

AND you even put my all time favorite! CHUCK D!!! PUBLIC ENEMY NUMBER 1!!! I said he was the best in '88...and dudes said I was buggin then. Chuck D had the voice...the lyrics, the energy...the dude is a monster. It Takes A Nation of Millions To Holds Us Back is probably the best hip hop album ever recorded. Chuck was the epitome of hardcore Rebel without a pause BUT with a cause. Say no more just listen to that album then listen to SHUT EM DOWN!!! SHUT 'EM SHUT 'EM DOWN!!!

MEAN LIST JIG WORD. AND WE ALL KNOW HOV IS THE BEST OUT WITHOUT QUESTION.   THIS WAS A FIRE TOP 5.
February 19, 2009 6:00 PM
 

WolfgangWashington said:

@delvec001...

i don't understand how ppl can say you're a hater if don't mention someone or may dis like a song or an album of a particular artist or if you mention one of their so called "rivals".  It doesn't make any sense. Perfect example...when Jay-Z came back out of retirement with Kingdome Come i told my friend the album is just OK...its not his best work and its not a classic. My friend automatically says I'm a hater! How?!?!?  I have every Jay album and can recite every song word for word..bottom line he's one of my favorites. And b/c I don't really care for 1 album I'm a HATER?!?!? C'mon fam that Sh*T is lame. Now your a hater because something is not of your taste or they don't get a mention in your top 5....STOP USING THAT WORD SO LOOSELY YA'LL...You got mad at ya moms for whipping that ass that time, for coming in after the street light came on right? Does make you a hater becasue you didn't like what she did?..NO!!! You still love her right....So cut HATE Nonsense out. We have the right to dis-like something...WORD
February 19, 2009 6:21 PM
 

slimbeezy86 said:

where missdallas214 she sexy as hell
February 19, 2009 7:02 PM
 

Southcidal said:

I take it you from NY.  Now, stop being bias and give me your REAL top 5 list please!!!  Or did you ever listen to any other rappers from other places???
February 19, 2009 7:45 PM
 

Southcidal said:

Your list would be like me saying this as my top 5:

1. Mystikal 2. Juvenile 3. B.G. 4. Lil Wayne 5. Master P

Just because i'm from the N.O.  Yall niggaz out there in NY better get off that punk shit man!!!
February 19, 2009 7:52 PM
 

Southcidal said:

@The Mexican

If you don't understand that Anre 3000 is a better rapper than Big Boi and Ghostface and Raekwon are the best out of Wu, then you don't understand rap!!!
February 19, 2009 8:01 PM
 

Travisty4real said:

My top five, are the ones that inspired me.

1. Kool G Rap

2. Scarface

3. Rakim

4. Jt Money
February 19, 2009 8:01 PM
 

Travisty4real said:

5. Last but not least me, Travisty

http://www.myspace.com/travistydope
February 19, 2009 8:04 PM
 

chuckcreekmur said:

Southcidal said:
I take it you from NY.  Now, stop being bias and give me your REAL top 5 list please!!!  Or did you ever listen to any other rappers from other places???

--------------------------
I wasnt born or raised in NY...again...people seem to think that listing your personal top 5 means...you dont like anybody...or some reason...i know and love Hip-Hop from all over the world. I was listening to Derek B and the Wee Papa Girl in the 80s - google that. I the geto boys, NWA and Too Short...in the 80s. Hmmm...i also love philly hip-hop tuff crew, 3XDope, steady b, fresh prince, jazzy jeff, cool c, schoolly D, MC mechanism...Lady B. The point is...you cant really talk slick to an oil can, brah! i got willie dee's controversy on cassette tape.
February 19, 2009 8:39 PM
 

bkchillz said:

i'll go on record and say ....G.Rap was not better than Rakim..im sorry jigsaw....nope!
February 19, 2009 8:44 PM
 

chuckcreekmur said:

bkchillz said:
i'll go on record and say ....G.Rap was not better than Rakim..im sorry jigsaw....nope!
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well, i will say this...when you get to that level...rakim, g rap, cube, face, kane, there is no better or whatever. its a personal preference thing hahhaa...but, i could debate you on that.
February 19, 2009 8:47 PM
 

Southcidal said:

@chuckcreekmur

You listen to all that and thats your top 5, damn!!!  But I can't knock it though.
February 19, 2009 8:55 PM
 

Max Most said:

Guess you gotta be of a certain age and disposition to recognize Chuck D's impact on the game. I say it religiously- he is, bar none, the single greatest MC in history. I realize, nevertheless, that the majority of this site's visitors were either just being born, or weren't born yet when D is for Dangerous was doing his thang. Few youngsters care about history. The world is as old as they are in their eyes.
Can't see how you left off Cube and Rakim, but hey... it's your list.
Peace.  
February 19, 2009 9:19 PM
 

DC.dmv said:

Brotha's b sensitive wit tis top 5 dead or live list. Again, everyone has there own opinion. We can debate for months about who the best.

Brothas b hating on Jay. Versatility 4 days.
No respect for Face- all albums solid and you check out track 12 or 13 on his new cd and get some insight. Your favorite rapper grew up on him.
Nas-lyrically outstanding
Ice Cube that brotha you love to hate. One of the most vicious diss records of all times(2) after hit em up.
KRS 1 - freestyles, battles, stories, etc.

By the way good list. nuff respect
February 19, 2009 9:38 PM
 

Savoy East said:

THAT WAS THE WEAKEST TOP 5 I EVER SEEN IN MY FUCKING LIFE, I MEAN I FUX WITH WHOEVER STARTED OR HELP START THE ALL HIP HOP MOVEMENT BUT, DMC OVER RA OR KANE FOR THAT MATTER, AND CHUCK OVER KRS, OR SLICK RICK, GTFOH, YOU EITHER WAS GONE OFF YOUR FAVORITE DRUG, OR YOU WAS JUST TRYING TO BE DIFFERENT, DMC OVER NAS, PAC, BIG, BIG L, 3 STACKS, CUBE, FACE, LL, COMMON, EPMD, MOBB DEEP, GHOSTFACE, RAEKWON, DECK, METH, GZA, KISS, STYLES, BLACK THOUGHT, LUPE, I COULD KEEP GOING BUT I WON'T, NOT ONLY DO I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU COMING FROM, CAUSE I KNOW A HUGE DMC FAN MYSELF, BUT YOU AND MY HOMIE IS OLD AND STUPID TO BELIEVE THAT BULLSHIT, NO DISRESPECT INTENDED......................

                         (BODYMORE MURDALAND)
                                    HARM CITY
February 19, 2009 11:28 PM
 

chuckcreekmur said:

Savoy East said:
THAT WAS THE WEAKEST TOP 5 I EVER SEEN IN MY FUCKING LIFE,

------------------
you must be buggin- i'm not even gonna argue with you b/c you sound like a nut
February 20, 2009 3:39 AM
 

mntlyfcsd said:

It's tough to come up with a list of the top 5.  I can appreciate the fact Chuck and DMC got some love.  Red is mad underappreciated as well.  G Rap is a legend nuff said.  As far as Jay, i'm not a fan.  I just don't see how he's considered a top 5 "Lyricist".  I will give him his just due for being a major figure in the game for such a long time, but top 5 Lyricist I just don't see it.  I could name at least 20 MC's that are "Lyrically" better than Jay
February 20, 2009 9:39 AM
 

worksmart said:

good list.. people take this too serious.. it's only an opinion and people are arguing like kids... Bout time Redman is someone's list.. Lyrically, he is retarded and top 15 all time easily, just based off emceeing!!!
February 20, 2009 9:30 PM
 

Psycho_Truth said:

u know wat they say though.
for the future!
chuck d-is past and bright future also
redman-g rap also
dmc big respect ,but out the game.
mobb depp?jay z?why?they repping ny?
they dont have future of self ,plus (especially z)
are going for the super stardom and
i hate to say it to you its the love for people
the main thing not the love for money.
the game iz not over yet!
the list iz not good !
u need work baby!
February 22, 2009 9:46 PM
 

Psycho_Truth said:

so...u do the math
1.LLCOOL J.he wants the last meal
2.The Rza-WU TANG HEAD, nuff said.
3.Dr.Dre-detox just to name a few...
4.2Pac-Long live the king!
5.chuck-d/immortal technique :from the old to tha new.
February 23, 2009 12:08 AM
 

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February 23, 2009 2:16 AM
 

nercity07 said:

damn..this dude put "DMC" on his list!!!

You are the shit!
March 9, 2009 7:37 PM
 

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