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Hip-Hop Rumors: DeHaven's Revenge! He's BACK For Jay-Z! 
Published Saturday, December 01, 2007 5:40 AM
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    By illseed

    MADE MEN AIN’T SUPPOSED TO MAKE STATEMENTS!


    DeHaven is back like he never left...or back like his left something!


    I’m not even going to add 2 cents. Here is what DeHaven is saying about Jay-Z in the new New York mag.


    Random Quotes from DeHaven:


    On “Roc Boys”:


    “I have no idea what a Roc Boy is, actually. I guess that’s something new that they’re coming up with now. There was no crew back in ’88; it was just me and him, so I don’t know how he got “Roc Boys.”


    On the crowd Jay-Z kept growing up:


    “He was hanging with some “school”guys. Nerds! We didn’t get together actually until after the fifth grade, in intermediary school. We played baseball and basketball. He wasn’t tough on the court at all. He didn’t like physical ball.”


    On dealing drugs:


    “No, he ain’t do much selling drugs. I did all that work. He was just a good dude to be around. He was one of my best friends. I taught him some things, but I mainly kept him from being out on the street a lot.”


    On being more Frank Lucas than Ludacris:


    “I’m telling you he overexaggerates. He was there to see things, but doing some big-time Frank Lucas–type thing? No.”


    On why they don’t speak (it seems more than just made men making statements):


    “We never really had a falling-out, that’s the problem. This is why I’m so confused. There was no argument, there was none of that. I don’t want an apology [from him], I want a reason.”


    DeHaven is creating a book and a DVD to explain his past as well as his relationship to Jay-Z. You know, what happened here? Was it the money? Was it the fame? Did they just take different paths? Can a rich rapper stay cool with the people from his humble past? It all seems sad to me (which I said before).


    NEVERTHELESS!!!!


    Here is when we first met the man…DEHAVEN (click the link to get to the old story):




    And then there is the video for "Roc Boys," which is sooooooo ill! We in the house!




    TOMORROW, WE LOVE YOU!


    They keep us talking, but if we stop talking about them then they should worry!

    -illseed

    WHO: illseed
    WHAT: Rumors
    WHERE: AllHipHop.com, MySpace.com/TheIllseed
    HOW: Send your rumors and ill pics to illseed at ahhrumors@gmail.com.

    - allhiphop rumors


    Comments

     

    MACCAPONE said:

    THIS STORY IS OLD NOW NEXT ONE....
    December 1, 2007 5:56 AM
     

    MACCAPONE said:

    BUT JAY-Z NOT BEING A LOYAL PERSON TO HIS CHILD HOOD BUDDIE AND SHOW HIM LOVE....
    December 1, 2007 5:58 AM
     

    MACCAPONE said:

    I AM THE FIRST ONE YEAH ROCC BOYS IN THE BUILDING TONIGHT LOL
    December 1, 2007 6:02 AM
     

    Oye Bang! said:

    Damn! Thought I was gonna get some Saturday morning cartoons again!
    December 1, 2007 6:03 AM
     

    MACCAPONE said:

    CARTOONS HELL NO NOT THIS SATURDAY BUT I AM DIGGING JAY-Z SONG SAY HELLO
    December 1, 2007 6:08 AM
     

    illseed said:

    the cartoons are coming! give me a few...i got this!!!
    December 1, 2007 6:11 AM
     

    OKF Gang said:

    lol yeah i was looking for some cartoons
    December 1, 2007 6:21 AM
     

    Oye Bang! said:

    Yo DeHaven need to fall back at this point and get money on his own! No disrespect, but damn every time Jay got some shit going this nigga come poppin off about some shit from 15 years ago... Niggas don't care about that! Shit it's a lot of 15-17 year olds that bang Jay shit that don't give a damn about DeHaven or what he got to say. Nigga I'm "older" and I don't give a shit! Nigga aint gettin no cake off me from trying to xpoz some shit Jay did and putting it on DVD. We understand you did your bid and Jay hung you out... fuck you want us to do? Stop coppin the freshest shit in hip hop on the count that he fucked you over?? Nigga get real! Niggas is gonna cop Jay regardless cuz his flow is crazy and he be spittin shit niggas feel! If you put out some quality shit, niggas will cop it and you too can be caked up!

    As for the Roc Boys video... "It's a celebration bitches" That shit is ill for real!! That's how you keep it gangsta and grown up!
    December 1, 2007 6:21 AM
     

    MACCAPONE said:

    ILLLSEED NO KEEP THE CARTOON AWAY....
    December 1, 2007 6:23 AM
     

    CurtissKing said:

    lmaao. Regardless of what he has to say about Jay's past, I guarantee you what he goes home to aint Beyonce status. So no matter if Jay-Z hung with "nerds" or whatever, financially the brotha is doing good for other folks with his money.

    Dehaven loses again.

    http://www.myspace.com/dwan32
    December 1, 2007 6:33 AM
     

    CurtissKing said:

    Illseed gotta bring it this week on the cartoons, the last few weeks was too on point fam.
    December 1, 2007 6:35 AM
     

    illseed said:

    give illseed 2-3 hours hahahahaa
    December 1, 2007 6:35 AM
     

    CurtissKing said:

    Here's a head start on those memory lane cartoons AHH Family:

    Remember Pro Stars?:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px5njG8ikvo&feature=related

    What about MC Hammer's Cartoon?:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8WYh8uz3pQ

    - Curtiss King
    December 1, 2007 6:38 AM
     

    MACCAPONE said:

    NO CARTOONS THEY SUCCS ILLSEED YOU SLIPPING CUZZ....
    December 1, 2007 6:50 AM
     

    OfficialTeflon said:

    alicia keys like youll never see me again feat symon dagrapp
    http://www.zshare.net/audio/52797303ef3359/
    December 1, 2007 6:51 AM
     

    Pablo Godson said:

    If Deehating was the one putting in work why is Young Hov the one with the dukey rope around his neck? look closely
    December 1, 2007 6:58 AM
     

    liverpool said:

    deehaven desperate 4 attention .
    December 1, 2007 7:19 AM
     

    ron art said:

    yawn
    December 1, 2007 7:58 AM
     

    Jay-Z » Blog Archive » Hip-Hop Rumors: DeHaven’s Revenge! He’s BACK For Jay-Z! said:

    December 1, 2007 8:00 AM
     

    HPT_D_Nice_1 said:

    lol....no one cares is Jay shitted on you DeHaven!  You don't mean shit to the fans....stop playin yourself
    December 1, 2007 8:25 AM
     

    chocol8b0y1da said:

    Illseed u should of just came with the cartoons.
    December 1, 2007 8:37 AM
     

    Renaissance Man » Hip-Hop Rumors: DeHaven’s Revenge! He’s BACK For Jay-Z! said:

    December 1, 2007 8:41 AM
     

    j.johnson said:

    I believe him. No matter if you like the dude or not, no matter if he crying like a lil girl, dude still sound like he telling the truth. If everyone from yuur past say the exact same shit, come on you know its some truth behind it. Dude wasnt no big time drug dealing dude. Jaz-o said, calvin klein said it, dis dude, its like people dont wanna admit they like a studio gangsta...lol. Yeah he can rap, no doubt, but if you aint real then it dont matter. It seem to me this dude dehaven needs some bread, but he seem more hurt than anything. Like he really thought them niggas was family
    December 1, 2007 8:48 AM
     

    Streetweyez Sayles said:

    I think DeHaven is going about this all wrong and he is going to be the one to feel the backlash not Jay-Z. Jay-Z is in a better position than he is, Jay-Z will basically ignore him. He will not lose anything from this.

    I am not saying he is not telling the truth because I don't know, they ran together, I didn't run with those dudes. I am saying that nobody cares about the truth he is telling because of the way he is telling it.

    These days you have to create your own lane. That is what I do. Create your own lane and just keep those fake ass dudes out your space. If somebody don't like it, it's not important, so what? Don't worry about them. If Jay is a fake ass dude, don't deal with him. I know plenty of fake ass dudes I don't deal with.

    I'll state my piece about shit that I know or whatever if I want to and leave it at that. These days it's nothing but talk about other dudes money, you can be a huge fraud these days but as long as you got a little something to flash around a lot of people will co-sign that. I don't care about all that, I'm going to live my life and make my own money and keep these fake dudes out my lane. DeHaven should do the same he's wasting valuable time worrying about Jay.


    http://www.myspace.com/streetweyezsayles
    December 1, 2007 8:53 AM
     

    jojodove77 said:

    Will someone please tell Dehaven to go kick rocks!!! The fool is the worst...who da Fck cares if Jay played ball aggressively in the fifth grade!!!  What does that have to do with anything...I wasn't aggressive in the fifth grade either but in high school I was a beast in the post!  Jay never claimed to be as big a drug dealer as Frank Lucas...his intentions are just to say he relates more to him than Ludacris...I feel him on that...almost any hood kid who grew up in the early late 70's/early 80's in nyc would relate more to an uptown big willy than a southern rapper...what's the damn point...
    Furthermore I got plenty of homies who I grew up with and sold drugs with but we are not close now...and if I turned into a multi-million dollar superstar I wouldn't be featuring them all of a sudden either...
    December 1, 2007 9:02 AM
     

    SagNasty989 said:

    I agree with a lot of yall points..man who cares about "dehaven"..dude who is you? just a case of mo money mo problems mo jealousy.if any of yall that posted on here made it big and had millionaire status, I'm pretty sure some hatin ass dick head gone come out and superhead yall..thats all these fake ass broke ass "child hood" 5TH grade friends are doing, superheadin niggaz...damn what was funny is he said "he hung with nerds in the 5th grade"..LMAO...i know cats back in 4th n 5th grades that was soft as tissue and smart as einstein that some 15 years later turned into career thug ass criminals...dehaven man just shut ya fat mouth...i mean I don't care what you say niggas still coppin his music, just remember you are "dehaven" and he jay-z
    December 1, 2007 9:16 AM
     

    HoodProphet said:

    its funny how everybody say who cares about Dehaven, but everytime this nigga drop something people read it.

    I care, cause I like to get a better feel for the artists I call myself supportin.  I want to know who in the game really did the shit they talk and who bullshittin.  I think some of yall do to.

    Its like the big mouth nigga that always braggin about this and that.

    Niggas will have the one eyebrow up when theres any press that go against want they saying.  Dehaven a loser for goin about it this way, but at end of the day its still gone be good press and niggas gone take it with a grain of salt.  But the fact of the matter is, they gone take it!


    -HP
    December 1, 2007 9:52 AM
     

    gunot_17 said:

    Dehaven need to get off Jay's dick. Whether what he says is true or not, it dont matter, its time to move on.
    Stop tryin to make a name for yourself off of a legend, and make a name on your own.
    December 1, 2007 9:57 AM
     

    Cycl-1777 said:

    Dehaven is startin' to make himself look real stupid. What does he have to gain? I know his feelings are hurt but move on. This shit isn't workin'.

    http://www.myspace.com/817studios
    http://thehiphopchronicles.blogspot.com
    December 1, 2007 10:19 AM
     

    Cycl-1777 said:

    The Hip-Hop Chronicles

    If Your Just Half-Baked, We've Got That Musical Mary Jane.

    A Hip-Hop Heads Paradise. Come Get Your Fix.

    http://thehiphopchronicles.blogspot.com

    (shout out to all the supporters we just reached 15,000 hits in a little over a month. I'm a hip-hop head and I created this shit so all hip-hop heads can get their fix. Much love to AHH ya'll still the kings of this shit. One.)
    December 1, 2007 10:19 AM
     

    BigSlimFL said:

    Dear DeHaven,

    We get it. Really, we do. Enough is enough. We know that Jay-Z wasn't pushing Frank Lucas weight. Neither were you. We know he over exaggerates. It's his job. I don't really care who Jay-Z hung out with when he was 9 years old. You know you sound like an ex girlfriend tryin to hold on, right? Beyonce would like to suck Jay off too, and you're takin up all the slobbin time.

    Sincerely,

    BigSlimFL
    December 1, 2007 10:25 AM
     

    BigSlimFL said:

    Sean Taylor suspect story updated 10:15am


    Three of the four men accused in the home invasion robbery shooting death of Washington Redskins football player had their first court appearance in Lee County via video conference at 8:30 this morning.

    Each are charged with burglary, home invasion robbery and first-degree murder while in the commission of a serious felony, according to Fort Myers attorney Wilbur Smith, who is representing suspect Eric Rivera, 17. The other suspects are Venjah K. Hunte, 20, Jason Scott Mitchell, 19 and Charles Kendrick Lee Wardlow, 18.

    Mitchell did not appear in court, and Smith speculated it was due to the fact that he was processed later.

    Speaking to reporters outside the courthouse, Smith said he had known Rivera and his family for many years.

    "It's an indescribable tragedy for the Taylor family, and it's a tragedy for the families of these other young men because their lives are down the tube," Smith said. "It's just another tragedy out of Dunbar."

    Smith said some media reports have pegged Rivera as the person who pulled the trigger of the gun that killed Taylor, but he had not yet spoken extensively with his client to confirm whether that was true. While it's not clear whether Rivera was one of the suspects who reportedly confessed, Smith did say Rivera was questioned all day Friday and had not slept when the hearing occurred. He said his client was remorseful.

    "Yes, you could see it in his eyes," he said. "And his family has expressed remorse to the Taylor family."

    Rivera, who is a juvenile, will likely be charged as an adult by Miami-Dade police, but because of his age would face a minimum mandatory of 25 years to life in prison rather than execution.

    John Evans, another Fort Myers-based attorney, is representing suspect Wardlow. He said a probable cause affidavit indicated Wardlow was one of the suspects who confessed. He said it's likely all four suspects will be transported to Miami on Sunday. He also said there is a "big possibility" others were involved in the killing.

    Smith said he expects a "speedy resolution" to the trials of those allegedly involved.

    "Don't expect this to be a long, drawn-out thing," he said. "Because there are confessions, I believe this will be quickly resolved."

    Check news-press.com for updates on this developing story.

    9:24 a.m.

    By 5 a.m. three of the four suspects in the shooting death of Washington Redskin's football player Sean Taylor had been charged.

    Charles Wardlow, 18; Venjah Hunte, 20; and Eric Rivera Jr., 17, all of Fort Myers have each been charged with burglary, robbery and murder.

    A fourth suspect, Jason Scott Mitchell, 19, of Lehigh Acres, as of 8:50 a.m. had not been charged or booked into the Lee County jail.

    According to reports:

    The three were each charged with (all are felony counts):

    • One count burglary dwelling structure or conveyance armed

    • One count robbery - home invasion with a firearm or other deadly weapon

    • One count murder not premeditated during other felony

    No information was available on Mitchell.

    The three are expected to make first appearance at 8:30 a.m. In Lee County.
    December 1, 2007 10:36 AM
     

    SagNasty989 said:

    HOODPROPHET, shut ya bitch ass up!  Listen you dumb fuck, if something was posted about Gary Coleman having beef with Jim Jones, even though we probably don't care bout it, 9 times out of 10 we gone comment about as in case with this faggot dehaven..its just how it is..man 99% of united state citizens wouldn't know who"dehaven" was in a local walmart if they seen him, so what he says may matter to him but not to 99% of the people on earth
    December 1, 2007 11:08 AM
     

    illseed said:

    hahaah - bigslim wrote a letter to dehaven....
    December 1, 2007 11:09 AM
     

    gunot_17 said:

    @BigSlim:
    Props on the update.
    Do you think they gonna get the death sentence? Other than the one, that is.
    @the whole community:
    Do any of you got Katt's American Hustle DVD yet? Cuz I was gonna cop that @ the mall yesterday, but I wanted to hear what others said first.
    December 1, 2007 11:27 AM
     

    BigSlimFL said:

    @ g_unot

    I have heard that Rivera was the shooter. Since he's under 18, he can't get the death penalty.

    I heard that Wardlow already gave a confession and they are looking for 2 more people who were involved


    @ illseed

    you got dehaven's e-mail? You should send that letter to him. he just gotta get that sand out his vagina and he'll be straight..he got a vice grip on the past
    December 1, 2007 11:34 AM
     

    Dough huSTLe said:

    Classic case of bitter brother syndrome.
    Hey DeHaven get over it son(in my  phony NY accent)LOL
    December 1, 2007 11:44 AM
     

    gunot_17 said:

    @BigSlim:
    Oh aight, I see. But Im a bit confused. TWO of the dudes are 17, so if they cant give the shooter the death sentence, doesnt that mean the same for the other 17 year old?
    December 1, 2007 11:48 AM
     

    gunot_17 said:

    @BigSlim & everybody else:
    This whole Sean Taylor thing, mainly how everybody went and called the cops and told them what they knew, makes me think of just how many cases could be solved if people would actually say what they know.
    I guess that's a topic for debate:
    If people would call crimestoppers and say what they know about ALL cases, not just this one, how many cases could be solved?
    I understand not wanting to snitch on people for doing small things and stuff, but if a murder lived next to you, and you had a young kid, wouldn't you want somebody to say what they know?
    December 1, 2007 11:50 AM
     

    theblakeman said:

    so i bet dehaven thinks once jay is exposed, the U.S. government will say "uh uh, we can't have LIARS be millionaires off of money they made LYING to people in their music! we're gonna come in and take it all away" although theyd probly LIKE to do that shit is not going to happen. Jay will still bank no matter what. He isn't stupid. Even if people stop buying his music in the U.S. so what? He doesn't need to make music anymore. And overseas you think they care about his street cred? Unless they're some fuckin nerdy ass European dude on allhiphop.com, probably not. When I was in Japan kids didn't even know Jay was talkin about drugs and crime in his music! I was like wtf did you think it was about? So what makes anyone think this shit matters? boring
    December 1, 2007 12:11 PM
     

    da bul Reef said:

    FUCK DEHAVEN 4 CAVIN!!!!!!!!!  WE DONT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT U AND JAY'S PAST, WE LIKE DA NIGGA MUSIC, EAT A DICK NIGGA!!!!!!!!
    December 1, 2007 12:32 PM
     

    Code of Iron said:

    this dude has got to be the biggest hater in all of haterdom. if he would have said all of this. when jay started is one thing. but years and years later after jay's become the 400+ million dollar man. are you serious. de-Hater is a bitch. a disgruntled has been hustler who didnt do good in his life and is looking for a handout. 15 years later and the dumb nigga is STILL in the projects. wearing white tees. fuckin bum. the fucked up thing is that de-Hater is probably making money off this. fuck Saturday Morning Cartoons With Illseed De-hater's the real saturday morning cartoon!!
    December 1, 2007 12:37 PM
     

    tha clear said:

    Say what y'all wanna say about Dehaven, but this nigga has a point. Everybody jigga involved with get fucked over. Jaz-O, Sauce money, Dame and Biggs... I just don't think Jigga is a good dude in terms of friendship loyalty and trust. That doesn't take away from his music.
    December 1, 2007 12:46 PM
     

    dwill1 said:

    @ EVERYBODY                                                                        IF THS WAS ANOTHER RAPPER DEHAVEN WAS TALKING ABOUT, THE COMMENTS WOULD BE DIFFERENT. LET'S SAY IT WAS 50 OR SOMEBODY LIKE THAT NIGGA'S WOULD LOOSE THERE MIND WITH THE COMMENTS. BUT BECAUSE IT IS JAY AND MOST OF YALL RARELY COME UP FOR AIR WHILE GIVING HIM HEAD. NIGGA'S SAYING SHIT LIKE HE GOING ABOUT IT WRONG, SHIT IF WHAT THE NIGGA SAY IS TRUE JAY WENT ABOUT IT WRONG SO WHY NOT. IF YOU DO NOT CARE ABOUT WHAT HE IS SAYING THEN THAT IS YOU. BUT ME I WANT TO KNOW IF ALL THE TALES OF MOVING BIG WORK IS TRUE, AND FROM THE SOUND OF IT THE NIGGA BEEN LYING ALL THESE YEARS. IT DOES NOT TAKE FROM JAY MONEY OR THE FACT THAT HE MAKE GOOD MUSIC. BUT IT DOES TAKE FROM THE STREET CRED WHICH AT THIS POINT IN HIS CAREER DOES NOT MATTER OR DOES IT. CAUSE THIS 40 YEAR OLD MAN JUST MADE AN ALBUM ABOUT SELLING ALOT OF DOPE. MAYBE THE STREET CRED STILL MATTER AND IF IT DOES DEHAVEN ASKING NIGGA'S TO RETHINK THAT SHIT. IF IT DOES COME OUT AS THE TRUTH JAY IS NO DIFFERENT THEN THE FAKE NIGGA'S HE HAS DISSED IN THE PAST. ALSO IT IS A NIGGA THAT COMMENTED ON HERE, DAWG I WENT AND LISTEN TO YOUR MUSIC CAUSE YOU SO CRITICAL OF EVERYONE ELSE MUSIC AND MY DUDE, YOU SUCK FOR REAL. THE NIGGA'S YOU BE DISSING THEY ARE ALOT BETTER THEN YOU, THAT IS WHY YOU STILL ON HERE. PLEASE GIVE UP, THAT SHIT SOUND SUPER DUPER WACK. HAVE THE NERVE TO TALK SHIT AND YOUR MUSIC SOUND LIKE THAT. MAN ASK THE NIGGA'S YOU BE HATING ON FOR SOME ADVISE BROKE ASS WANNA BE RAPPER. TELL THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU TO STOP GASSING YOU UP CAUSE TO BE 100 YOU DO NOT HAVE A CHANCE REAL TALK YOU THAT BAD. 100
    December 1, 2007 12:50 PM
     

    TWON THE DON said:

    here is all the dope jay-z sold
    Reasonable Doubt (1996)
    In My Lifetime, Vol. 1 (1997)
    Vol. 2... Hard Knock Life (1998)
    it was certified 5x platinum in the United States and has to date sold over 8 million worldwide. The album went on to win a Grammy
    Vol. 3... Life and Times of S. Carter (1999)
    went platinum three times and sold over 5.6 million records worldwide
    The Dynasty: Roc La Familia (2000
    sold over 2 million units in the US alone.

    The Blueprint (2001)
    selling more than 450,000 albums in its first week.
    The Blueprint has obtained a 2x Platinum status in the US

    The Blueprint²: The Gift & the Curse (2002)
    Jay-Z's next solo album was 2002's 4 million

    The Black Album (2003)
    has sold 3 million copies in the US

    Collision Course (2004)
    The EP sold over two million copies in the US alone

    Retirement!

    Kingdom Come (2006)
    This album has already sold 2 million copies in the US
    alone.

    American Gangster (2007)600,000, something 1st week

    damn thats alot of dope

    looks like frank lucas 2me











    December 1, 2007 12:51 PM
     

    butrflygrl said:

    whatitbelike fo lks?

    so y'all already know how i feel about Sean #2, as BP 1 calls him.

    thus, i have been overlookin all of this from Dehaven.

    but i wanted to see what i might've missed...

    the funny thing is, no the ridiculous thing, is that this is even being discussed!

    like are there people out there, fans or not, who think that Jay-Z was making moves like Frank Lucas?

    i hope not.

    besides that Frank Lucas was hella country and ignorant, so what an image to aspire to!

    but are there people out there who are still denyin the fact that rappers are almost always overexaggerating in their lyrics?

    i've known enough rappers, not that they all necessarily bubbled, but that's irrelevant cause the point i'm tryna make is that they (rappers) are of a certain type.

    they are creative obviously and often, more observers than participants.

    most of the time they are cats that are what we call "in the way."

    they're faithfully on the scene, but not primarily focused on doing dirt. probably more on kickin it.

    do people not know this? or are they just tryna convince themselves otherwise?

    u can't be doing hella dirt on a deep level and be focused on making music. it just don't work like that.

    it is very rare.

    shit reminds me of Spice 1, in a way.

    there was all kinds of controversy out here about him back in the day because he overexaggerated alot in his music.

    also cause he repped the Town tho people felt/believed/argued  differently.

    that's probably why he fell off, but the point is

    "did fools really think he chopping up bodies and puttin them in plastic bags or blowin fools heads off with a 12 gauge sawed off?"

    here's an perfect example (and simultaneously, forever the knock imo):

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOWkG50WaMA

    if he was doin all that he wouldn't be rappin, huh? ya think?

    and the other side is his music is still classic, he still had a tight ass flow and i'll still slap his shit all day.

    my overall point is to the listeners and the fans of whoever, wake the fuck up and quit being so brainwashed.

    PE said it best, Don't Believe The Hype.

    besides, u can look at Jay-Z and tell he wasn't runnin shit.

    he don't even have the aura of a man running shit in the street.

    but there must be folks out there that believe in him in the literal sense.

    or else this wouldn't even be a topic of conversation, feel me?

    dude talkin bout he hung with nerds when he was a kid. i can see that.

    at the same time, what u ain't certified unless u come out the womb bangin?

    LOL

    well due to that ignorant ass belief,

    it's a whole generation of youngstas being raised just like that and tryna keep it real official.

    SMH

    anytime the only topics u focus on in ur artistic expression is matierialism, criminal activity, and fuckin,

    u just limited urself as an artist and u gon be rather dependent upon embellishing details.

    basically u gonna have to bullshit and hope the "fans" buy it.

    lucky for him/too bad for them, so many do.




    ~BFG
    December 1, 2007 12:52 PM
     

    B.O.M. said:

    Everyone pay attention Dehaven is the prime example of a Hater!!

    Mind you Jay just dropped the Hottest video EVER!!!!
    December 1, 2007 12:59 PM
     

    BigSlimFL said:

    @ g_unot

    only the one, Rivera, is 17...the others are 18, 19, and 20.

    But I would imagine that the ones who didn't actually pull the trigger will probably get their charges reduced to accessory to murder.

    News cameras have set up shop outside of Rivera's house, which makes me think he confessed to be the trigger man.


    if you go to http://www.news-press.com it's the first story that pops up and is updated every hour or so..thats our local paper
    December 1, 2007 1:30 PM
     

    biggpmm said:

    Jay-Z addressed this dude on his no hook song on American Gangster when he said "So f*** DeHaven for for cave in, thats why we dont speak
    Made men aint supposed to make statements
    End of the story i followed the code cracked the safe
    Other niggas aint in the game so they practice hate
    Leave that boy Hov alone why dont ya
    You dont have to if you dont want to but dont say i didnt warn ya"....... Well there you go!
    December 1, 2007 1:40 PM
     

    gunot_17 said:

    @BigSlim:
    Oh, okay, thanks.
    December 1, 2007 1:44 PM
     

    j.johnson said:

    Oh, what i thought was funny is that dehaven is 38 and said jay was a year ahead of him...so jay is 39. Damn he older than LL
    December 1, 2007 1:56 PM
     

    wild100vet said:

    dehaven act like a scorned hoe, take the "L" and move on my dude, you damn near 40 crying over some old shit
    December 1, 2007 2:03 PM
     

    da bul Reef said:

    @dwill1

    LIKE DEHAVEN, U 2 CAN EAT A DICK NIGGAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    December 1, 2007 2:08 PM
     

    HoodProphet said:

    Jay Z:  and the winner is, HOV...

    first of all, I like to think SagNasty. You really held me down on the internet cite.  I like the way you told hoodprophet to shut his bitch ass up.  

    You was  real gangsta with that. An American Gangster.   Keep up the good work, and Imma let you come to the 40/40, drinks on me.  its the roc!!

    Next step you can hold my bags, move over Bleek.

    Bleek:  Hov wtf?

    Sagnasty:  *speechless* and cheesin.


    Sag, my dude, you gangster.  You got real loose fingas on the keyboard.  You spoke your mind though, thats good for the soul.

    Internet Gangster of the year:  Sag Nasty.

    Sag, you prolly gone buy Dehaven dvd aint you?  Tell the truth?  Act like you watchin it just to see how he lyin right.

    You a official Roc Boy homie, keep holdin it down.  Next time put the hold post in caps, that will really show your gangster...


    -HP
    December 1, 2007 2:22 PM
     

    h_town_playa said:

    don't tell me that you people actually believe Jay Z. he even said it on american gangsta, "don't beleive everything you hear, even if it's spat by me."  c'mon now, he just selling us this shit, he didn't really do it. but i aint mad at him, because he's got good product
    December 1, 2007 3:36 PM
     

    MAK™ said:

    This shit is funny.... that is all!

    http://myspace.com/crackproductions

    -mak-

    December 1, 2007 3:36 PM
     

    MAK™ said:

    h_town is right... "don't believe everything you hear, even if it's spat by me." -jay-z-

    nuff said...

    http://myspace.com/crackproductions

    -mak-
    December 1, 2007 3:42 PM
     

    baynig4sho said:

    yo i like jay-z but damn alot of people ridin dick in here.his man helped him and then jay got his money and forgot about a nigga.sounds pretty simple to me.but it happens all the time everybody got that rich cousin who never come to the family reunion cuz they just to good for the rest of the fam.
    December 1, 2007 4:56 PM
     

    Kappagem said:

    "And with that said I'll kill niccahs dead" - -

    Come on man.  MAK said it best with Jay's verse when he said "don't believe everything you hear...even if it's spat by me"...

    We all know he wasn't moving Frank Lucas numbers.  The AVERAGE drug dealer makes less than minimum wage...real talk.

    So, if you ain't "big doggin' it", then you may as well sell drugs.  Hell, even 50 went to robbin' when he realized money wasn't hot in them drug streets (Not for the time you put in:).

    Seriously, DeHatin' is one of the worst I have seen.  At first I could see how someone would be upset when someone you were close to "turns" their back on you...

    But at the same time, there are "codes" and laws to the game.  For one, if you in the Pen, I'm not coming to see you!  I'm sorry, but at the end of the day, FEDS and LAWS are already watching, and the dumbest thing I can do is be visitin' yo azz and exposin' myself to some BS!

    Outside of that, he needed to speak with Jay as a MAN, rather than go through all this BS on Youtube.  Made men really don't speak, but neither do educated dudes.  He's obviously neither..

    And who cares that Jay "hung around nerds" in the 5th grade?  How DUMB does that sound?  "Jay wasn't slangin' back in the day like I was...etc, etc....

    That don't make his music any less effective...or credible.

    He's still SO GANGSTA!  And that album is a banger!

    December 1, 2007 4:58 PM
     

    TWON THE DON said:

    FOR REAL WHO DO Y'ALL THINK WON THAT BATTLE
    BETWEEN CAMRON AND 50? I'M GOING WIHT CAMON
    NOT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE 50. ITS JUST CAUSE CAM OUT RAP HIS ASS AND HE DIS THE SHIT OUT OF HIM.
    CHECK IT OUT
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Njej3NKTKU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbJS_xtrBIk

    NOW CHECK OUT 50
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tH7Fw2tg6Wg
    December 1, 2007 4:59 PM
     

    TWON THE DON said:

    December 1, 2007 5:11 PM
     

    baynig4sho said:

    but on the other hand i dont really care about they personal issues.i just wanna hear good music.its just that if i came up with you you mos def eatin with me.jay got a half a bil while ya people got to write books and make dvds about how foul you is, yo maybe you is foul son.hey but thanks for the good music.
    December 1, 2007 5:17 PM
     

    dwill1 said:

    @da bul Reef                                                                                 LMAO!!! DO YOU DO MUSIC OR YOU ONE OF THEM NIGGA'S THAT DON'T COME UP FOR AIR. FUCK YOU AND FOUR MUTHAFUCKAS THAT LOOK LIKE YOU. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA BIIIIIAAATTTCCCHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!                                        
    December 1, 2007 5:50 PM
     

    dwill1 said:

    @   TWON THE DON                                                                                  SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP I LISTENED WHEN IT 1ST DROP AND I LISTENED JUST NOW AND CURRTISS WON THAT BATTLE. STOP TRIPPING NIGGA, YOU DO NOT BELEIVE THAT SHIT DO YOU? EVEN NIGGA'S THAT DON'T LIKE FIF KNOW HE WON THAT BATTLE EASY MY DUDE.
    December 1, 2007 5:58 PM
     

    infamous118 said:

    Dehaven need to stop bitchin and move on. Get money jealous mothafucka lmfao
    December 1, 2007 6:27 PM
     

    TWON THE DON said:

    DWILL
    DOG YOU CAN'T B 4REAL
    CAM WENT IN ON DUDE PULL HIS CARD AND EVERYTHING. THE ONLY THING FIF HAD ON HIM WAS THE END WHEN WAS TALKING ABOUT DIPSET. BUT THE REST OF THAT SHIT BOOO...

    WHAT ABOUT FIF AND JA?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vylrHwdgu8U

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrtAZmfDDx4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbYAUwHEx4g





    December 1, 2007 7:06 PM
     

    MAK™ said:

    TO ALL AHH HEADS...

    "men lie, women lie, numbers don't" -JAY AGAIN...

    -MAK-
    December 1, 2007 7:26 PM
     

    Da Realeast nigga Out said:

    I Notice Errbody Who Hate On J Broke! Dat's First! 2nd J Killed Him On "No Hook" Dat Took Care Of That! 3rd This About Money He Broke & Mad Why Not Get On With Your Life Stop Waisting Time Dis Nigga Could Have Did Alot Of Shit If All His Energy Wasn't Put N2 Making Dvd's About 'Rappers" Especially Like He Bout To Follow Up Wit An Album De Havin Is A Bad Romodel 4 Kids Reading This Shit,This Nigga Practice Hate On Youtube & Allhiphop.com @ Da Age of Thirty-Nine (39)U A Grown As Man Dog,U Can Be Somebody's Grandfather And U Doing This Shit,What A Sorry As Nigga U Be!
    December 1, 2007 7:31 PM
     

    UnDefyned said:

    I gotta question for all yall niggas sayin that Jay is a fake ass nigga and all that other bullshit. How do yall know this nigga De-Haven aint a reckless nigga? Why would a legit millionaire want a muthafucka like that in his circle? Yall dont know what the situation is and who's being real or fake or who's hatin or any of that.

    Number two. Why should Jay (or anyone for that matter) be responsible for the well being of everybody he comes across? If you read that shit closely that nigga De-Haven said he had a chance to go to a school with a good basketball program. HE CHOSE NOT TO GO. Nobody forced him to do that. He came from the same place Jay came from. He had opportunities too. This nigga coulda went pro or sum shit like that, we'll never know.

    Number three. I'm havin a hard time believin Jay didnt make any cake off his hustlin. Cuz I remember readin a interview somebody did wit Quan ("Just A Moment") and he even acknowledged seein Jay down in Virginia back when he was hustlin. He said that Jay was doin his thing down there.
    December 1, 2007 8:26 PM
     

    Chubbeemane said:

    I'd rather eat lunch with Bill Gates too than hear this fuck complaining. Who really knows what happened?? If he's shiesty enough to make a whole fucking CAREER on this shit, than whatever happened was probably his fault. He doesn't come off as too intelligent. I'd be shocked if Jay-Z had any skin left on his scrotumn with how many faggots are swinging from his nutsack. Jim Jones being the worst. He is Stan.
    December 1, 2007 8:37 PM
     

    dwill1 said:

    @TWON THE DON                                                                                  MAN THAT IS WATCH TOWER JA, YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS LET ME HIT THAT SHIT. MUST BE STRAIGHT FROM THE GRAND DADDY PLANT. YOU TRIPPING DAWG STOP THAT SHIT.
    December 1, 2007 8:41 PM
     

    baynig4sho said:

    hes SOOOOO GANGSTA now that just sounds gay homey
    December 1, 2007 8:55 PM
     

    TWON THE DON said:

    ONE OF THE LATE GREAT 2PAC SONGS I AINT HEARD SHIT YET FUCKING WITH THIS. THIS IS SOME OF HIS BEST WORK

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIN4FSmsa_c
    December 1, 2007 10:00 PM
     

    TWON THE DON said:

    Seriously, Weezy. What drug are you on?

    I love Lil Wayne’s swagger, but I beginning to wonder if what we’re calling quirky star quality, is actually some early stage dementia.

    The good folks at Complex (thank you) sent me some outtakes from the new issue’s Weezy F. BabyPleaseSayTheBaby cover story…..and…um….wow.

    Wow, as in, I actually felt a lil’ woozy reading it. I thought maybe it was because I hadn’t drank enough coffee, but no….it was hardcore mathematics like this:

    “You are your pain, nigga. You can cut yourself right now. That don’t hurt because you are your pain. If it hurts you, then you done that, it’s a mind thing. You ever notice when you have a very stuffy nose or you have a cold and you eat something, you don’t taste nothing, you be like, “I can’t eat nothing, I can’t taste it, I’m hungry,” that’s because you don’t actually taste nothing, you know what I mean? You are you, you make everything around you. You make water, you make the sky, because it’s you, if you don’t want that to be water then it ain’t water, fuck. It’s you, so…ya dig?”

    That’s high. Really really really (x 100) high.

    I would summarize the rest of the outtakes if I knew what the hell he was talking about.

    I know there’s some explanation of how he and the Hot Boys reunited. And I’m managed to figure out that Weezy vows to never wear bathing ape again, because of The Clipse, saying “I was the hottest nigga to ever have Bapes on…quote that. (So what will the weezy wannabe’s wear now? This could cripple the bootleg Bape market in Dade County. Luckily Soulja Boy is still reppin’.)

    Oh, and Weezy even talks about proposing to a woman onstage at the BET Awards. Obviously he didn’t end up doing that, instead he fumbled some of the words to “Duffle Bag Boy” and debuted “Gossip,”….(but rumor has it that the lucky girl Weezy wants to pass Toya Nivea Trina Solange Farrah Karrine’s old toothbrush and empty dresser drawer to is Lauren London. I dunno…)

    Well, I can’t wait to read the real thing when it drops, but for now, there’s headcrack like this…. (click more…)

    Lil Wayne names some of his current role models…

    “[Oscar De La Hoya], Tom from MySpace and Bill Gates, I just wanna smoke three blunts with them, just three, just three blunts, I bet you I’ll come back high, whoo, them niggas are beast…..

    I saw [Mark Cuban] coming out of my condos one day with an iPod on him and two big niggas with him, ain’t no security. They were just rocking, three together. I ain’t got no racist issues, but when you see a cracker with two niggas, you know that cracker got all that money, he don’t even need to see a nigga, no black people ever need to come in his eyesight he’s so rich-and these your homeboys? I respect the fuck out of him for that, …, so I fuck with Mark Cuban heavy. I love a nigga who do what the fuck he want, just like I told you, Martin Luther King said we can do what the fuck we want, he do what the fuck he want, him and Bam Margera. What will Bam do next? Whatever the fuck they want…that’s one of my favorite shows.”

    Oh, but I do like that Lil Wayne is man enough to admit when he’s bested on a song, like he was on “Barry Bonds” by Kanye. Weezy says:

    ” ‘Ye killed me on that song. I was tight because I was like it could be way hotter than this. So when I heard his verse I was like “oh, we doing this again.” I done it twice, they got two different versions. I done one and I ain’t hear his verse and I done the other one after I heard his verse and even when I finished I said why don’t you let him be the man of song. Meaning that it was needed and what I’ve done nobody else can do it.”


    December 1, 2007 10:17 PM
     

    SagNasty989 said:

    DWILL man shut yo bitch ass up fuck boy.fuck dehaven bitch ass. street cred shit you talkin and bein a fuckin groupie about, man we don't give a muthafuck! i don't give a fuck if jay or any other successful nigga in the game rapped about 17.5 and aint sold a glass of lemonaide..nigga soooo what..some be out there and some don't bitch as mufucka..."i wanna see if its true if he did that"..why? so you can jack off ya dick pussy mufucka..while yo dumb ass busy waistin yo time trying to get the latest gossip on "if this rap guy really sold large amounts of crack cocaine", ya black ass could be reading a book, looking for a job, teaching inner city kids about the importance of school, or shit maybe prioritizing things with ya family..bitch ass nigga and so what you listened to a nigga music and you didn't like it! like dude give a flyin fuck that you aint like it..i mean who the fuck is "dwill"?  how many artist you signed? how many millions you or your label sold? how long you been a successful a&r or ceo? fag ass nigga. you'se a bitch that's what you is. bitch ass nigga. you a punk. and hoodprophet mane take ya nerd ass to sleep. bet you live in and was raised in the burbs you punk ass muthafucka. and nan one of yall niggas bet not talk slick bitch. i put it on errthing pussy ass niggas.
    December 1, 2007 10:28 PM
     

    Oye Bang! said:

    First of all I seen a nigga dick ridin on this post yet. The point everybody tryin to make is they don't give a fuck about what DeHaven got to say! I don't give a fuck about how much weight Jay, 50, Frank Lucas, or any of them niggas moved 15-30 years ago! All I give a fuck about is when they put that dope on the track that it come out hard!

    I aint sayin I don't want to know niggas history, but this nigga already said this shit last fucking year! We know A LOT of niggas say Jay aint move the weight he claim, we know Nas aint live the life he claim, we know every fucking "rapper"/hip hop artist has lied in a song before! Is that a big fucking shock? Niggas still gonna cop the shit regardless whether a nigga say they fake or whatever! Mad niggas get on records talking about they killin... who?? niggas would be locked up quick if everything they say they do or did on records is true! It's a lot of lies on records you just gotta figure out what's real and whats not!
    December 1, 2007 10:43 PM
     

    gunot_17 said:

    to all my fellow college football fans, F&^$ the BCS! What they gonna do now? Georgia in the championship game even though they didnt win their own division, let alone the conference? TIME for a playoff!!!
    December 1, 2007 11:11 PM
     

    KingOfEngland said:

    wateva man.
    December 1, 2007 11:24 PM
     

    TWON THE DON said:

    OYE BANG!
    WHAT CAPE DID NAS PUT ON? I THINK HE WAS JUST A REG STREET NIGGA! I DON'T THINK HE STEP OUTSIDE HIS SELF. IF HE DID KICK IT TO ME? CAUSE I LIKE DUDE (NO HOMO) BUT REAL TALK I NEVER HEARD HIM SAY NO SUPER MAN SHIT  I ALWASYS TRYED TO SHOW NIGGAS A WAY OUT OF THIS BULLSHIT THAT THESE OTHER RAPPER BE SO HAPPY TO WASTE OUR TIME TALKING ABOUT. WHO YOU THINK REALLY GIVE A FUCK ABOUT HOW MUCH YO WATCH COST? WHO GIVES A FUCK HOW MUCH DOPE YOU SOLD.?  TELL ME WHAT YOU TOLD THE JUDGE,WHEN YOU WENT TO COURT, WHATS YOU LAWYERS # HOW DO WE GET OUT THE GAME WHEN WE GET THE MONEY, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THE MONEY. ITS TO SIDE 2 THIS SHIT.
    REAL TALK! THE OTHER SHIT AINT SHIT THEM RAPPER TALKING ABOUT ON THAT MIC AINT SHIT BUT POISON!
    December 1, 2007 11:27 PM
     

    dwill1 said:

    @SagNasty989                                                                   ANOTHER NIGGA THAT DON'T COME UP FOR AIR. LMAO!!! YOU REALLY UPSET WITH ME. TAKE A DEAP BREATH DUMB ASS, IT IS JUST MY OPINION. FOR THE RECORD I AM NOT A RAPPER I AM A FAN OF GANGSTA HOP. BUT I LIKE REAL GANGSTA HOP, LIKE I SAID DUM DUM IF (WHICH IS THE KEY WORD) THE SHIT IS TRUE. JAY-Z IS KNOW DIFFERENT THEN THE PEOPLE HE HAS DISSED AND SAID WAS NOT REAL. FUCK YOU AND YOUR MOMA IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THAT. WHAT WE GONE DO FIGHT OVER THE KEYBOARD. TALKING SHIT LIKE WE CAN REACH OUT TOUCH EACH OTHER FUCKING PUSSY NIGGA. YOU REALLY MAD TYPED A WHOLE PARAGRAPH FOR ME, THANK YOU BITCH. YOU ANOTHER BLACK INTERNET ACTIVIST WITH THE POWER TO THE PEOPLE TALK. TELL ME WHAT ARE YOU DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY. ARE YOU HELPING YOUNG BLACK YOUTH? I DOUBT IT THE WAY YOU WERE TALKING TO ME. SO PLEASE REMOVE YOUR LIPS FROM JAY-Z DICK REGION. MAYBE AT THAT POINT YOU WILL BE ABLE TO GO MAKE SOME MONEY INSTEAD OF BEING JAY-Z INTERNET BODYGUARD. BY THE WAY I AM FROM THE LONE STAR STATE BITCH ALL WE DO IS HUSTLE AND STACK PAPER.
    December 1, 2007 11:53 PM
     

    dwill1 said:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!   BBBBIIIITTTTCCCCHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!                                          THIS PUSSY NIGGA OR TEENAGE WHITE BOY MAD AT ME AHH. LMAO REAL HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    December 1, 2007 11:59 PM
     

    GawgaBwoy770 said:

    Lmao, y'all niggaz been wildin out since I left..Y'all niggaz are crazy for even arguing about that dumb shit..If you got money in your pocket tonight and you high or drunk or both and ain't in the middle of no bullshit be thankful of that and fuck them other niggaz lives..Just do you and know all them niggaz fake to some degree but it really don't matter if you ain't getting 6 figures yourself a year..I ain't right now but i'm working towards it and that's what y'all niggaz should be talking about..Motivating each other the way true brothers should to reach them goals..Fuck all that dumb shit get on here and network pimps..Use this shit as a tool not as a weapon to argue about bullshit..See this is exacly why them boyz always visiting are front steps because we are letting our aggression and frustration get the best of us and killing each other or trying to take each other down about stupid ass bullshit..Niggaz get money, high, drunk or whatever you like to do with some money in your pocket and go wherever in a fly ass whip to get and try doing it on some positive shit and see where it get you..I ain't on here to preach but i am going to give my opinion on some dumb shit like this..We got niggaz out here in the streets killing family members over 5 dollars..If that's the kind of crowds y'all niggaz run with y'all need go get your muthufuckin priorities in order..I'm feeling good and get like me and strive to get some of this money and stop all this bickering like bitches..Now my real niggaz know what i'm talking about and ain't going to get offended but if you do nigga fuck you and what you wanna do about it..
    December 2, 2007 12:09 AM
     

    DC CA$HVILLE said:

    @JAY-Z

    CAN Y'ALL GUYS MEET BECAUSE I'M TIRED OF THIS.

    PEACE AND MORE HAIR GREASE,

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    December 2, 2007 12:13 AM
     

    paradyme said:

    Another ambulance chasing reply...from D.Haven. JAY has exceeded this guys expectations and he can't see why JAY has moved on. This guy looks to shit on the whole ROC legacy publicly. Yeah, he was the brains back then?...Like Dame was touted to be the brains of the ROC. This is some more nigga barbarism, cave man shit. Again we respect violence as people and believe that the tough guy has all the answers. When will we learn as people. The black man operating from a tough guy persona gets nothing but jail time or a dirt nap. We are America's prison poster children....prison food. We keep the prison packed with black males looking to reinvent the crime wheel. We as black men don't respect intelegence. JAY made a smart move parting from Dame & Biggs, they where stagnant and if they where the brains of the ROC, why haven't they successfully promoted a single entertainer rapper or otherwise since JAY-Z? They were in it for the money and when JAY decided to lay his last golden egg, "game over". If JAY had stayed in my opinion, JAY-Z would be dead, yep Dame & Biggs would have had him knocked off. JAY's long term goals where far more grand than Dame, Biggs, or D. Haven could see.
    December 2, 2007 12:42 AM
     

    Oye Bang! said:

    @ Twon

    The point I'm making is a lot of niggas tell stories in the songs, some real, some not, some they been through personally some they seen, some of the shit made up... but I'll give you an example...

    One 44 two 45's
    3 loaded clips 4 niggas roll one nigga drives
    500 Benz 6 reasons why
    This kid should die
    We shootin every motherfucker outside
    Pulled on his block jumped out the car guns in our hand
    At the same time everybody ran
    There that nigga go hiding in the crowd
    Let the trigger blow 7 shots now he lying on the ground
    Blood on the floor
    Then we shot some more
    Niggas he was with
    2 niggas hit, one nigga fell
    One tryed to run, go get him son
    Make sure he's done before we bail, I aint trying to goto jail
    Must handle beef, code of the street
    Load up the heat, if these nigga think they could fuck around
    Real niggas do real things
    By all means, niggas knowin how we get down.. It goes......

    [Nas]
    Driving through roads, Suburban Chevrolet
    6 tinted windows, and I'm on my way
    To get up with my hoes, I pull up to they house
    Not a freak to be heard, nobody came out
    Ringin the bell, where in the hell
    Could they be at, I'm about to leave
    Steppin' slow, where my truck was at
    Who the fuck is that?
    Could it be a jack?
    Now pull my strap, it's my man
    And we have the same plan
    There them bitches go
    Civic '94, looking funny though
    Open up the car door, funny smile
    Fuck 2 already, 3rd ass was heavy
    "Nas this is Sherri, Sherri this is Nas, and his man. Ready?"
    Walked in the house, snatched off they clothes
    Ran through them hoes
    Plenty ice, that they all seemed to like
    Can't find my man, heard a blam blam
    Now I'm wonderin, "In this scam, do I even stand a chance?"
    He killed the hoes, took all they doe
    Fire in his eyes, higher than the sky
    Comin down the stairs
    Now he wantin mine, reachin for my nine
    Aiming with our guns at each others face, at the same time
    My nine on his lips, his fifth on my chin, I start whispering
    "Put your gun down, we can skip town"
    Rocked him to sleep, pushed back his meat
    Lift off his chain
    Took his shit, emptied out close range...

    It's a good story, but the shit aint real... It could happen, but do you think Nas personally was there? Also check out It Was Written, The Message.

    A case of demi-sec to chase the henny
    Wet any clique with the semi-tech who want it

    I peeped you frontin, I was in the jeep
    Sunk in the seat tinted with heat beats bumpin
    Across the streat you was wildin
    Talkin bout how you ran the island in eighty-nine
    Laying up playing the yard with crazy shine
    I cocked a baby 9 that nigga gravy mine clanked 'em

    In the words of Jeezy, "Nas bust his guns?"

    I aint hatin, the nigga Nas is nice on the mic and I aint tryin to understate the obvious, but everything these niggas say does not pertain to their own personal life, but it's real street shit though! And niggas is gonna cop it on the strength of that. I don't think Nas ever pulled off a heist, or was on the scene when some bitches got killed... I don't know if the nigga ever been shot either, but he makes reference to it.

    December 2, 2007 1:06 AM
     

    dwill1 said:

    @GawgaBwoy770                                                                ALREADY MY NIGGA I AM ON THAT LEVEL TOO. PRECIATE YOU COMING THRU SPITTING SOME REAL. 100 MY NIGGA
    December 2, 2007 1:49 AM
     

    TWON THE DON said:

    OYE BANG
    DOG THATS A RAW ASS SONG! WHEN YOU HEARD THAT YOU WAS DAMN!! CAUSE ME READING IT I'M LIKE DAMN!
    MY POINT WITH NAS IS YOU WORK AWAY WITH SOMETHING. HIM , PAC, SCARFACE, JAY, AND BIG, TELL REAL LIFE SHIT. YOU CAN SEE WHAT THEY SAYING. AND WHAT LIKE ABOUT NAS HE DON'T TAKE OVER THE TOP. WHERE YOU BE LIKE GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.. MOST OF THESE NEW RAPPERS LIKE YO RICK ROSS, YO YOUNG JEZZY, YOU BE LIKE GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE. JAY-Z NEVER TO BUT HIMSELF AS KING OF THE HILL HE JUST TOLD SOME REAL LIVE SHIT. IT WAS NEVER 10 A KEY, HE NEVER HAD ALL THE DOPE, HE DIDN'T SHOOT EVERY MOTHE FUCKIN BODY STANDING OUTSIDE LIKE 50. THATS WHAT I'M SAYING WHAT CAN I GET FROM THIS STORY, THE NIGGAS IN YO TOP 5 OUR THE BEST STORY TELLERS  CAUSE WITHOUT OTHER PEOPLE YO LIFE IS BORING
    December 2, 2007 3:00 AM
     

    Oye Bang! said:

    Twon
    I feel you my nig. Nas is one of the coldest doin it! His shit is crazy and the way he tell stories is like listening to a movie and seeing the shit in your head... same thing with Jay, Pac, Scarface, B.I.G. and a few others, but like niggas like DeHaven seem to think that cuz it's on a record or in a song it's gotta all be real. My thing is some of it IS real and you take what you want from it, but dont go thinking everybody is keeping it 100 all the time.

    Also somebody was talking about Jay and the shit he was spittin on AG... I think niggas be forgetting that, while that is a Jay Z record it's his interpretation of the movie and how he RELATES to it, not that he necessarily went through it or did it. I don't want to sound like I'm defending niggas position or whatever, but the shit IS ENTERTAINMENT! Stay focused and lets enjoy the music for what it is.

    It's almost like niggas gotta start putting a disclaimer on they shit like "Yo this shit right here is what I went through! It's all real!" Or, "Yo this shit is made up, I aint live it, I aint do it, it's just some shit I was thinking and it's tight how it came out, so I'm releasing it for your entertainment!"

    I love this Hip Hop shit!
    December 2, 2007 5:25 AM
     

    Grumpy said:

    Dehaven kinda de-stupid if he can't recognize 'poetic license'...

    Him and Klein and Jaz should form the BitterBitchezClub...oh wait, there already is a BBC

    How old are you niggas again? Get a job...

    December 2, 2007 7:50 AM
     

    KeepinItDougie19 said:

    Damn man, this nigga sound like a scorned ex-girlfriend...Get a job or something and stop tryna make bread off this niggas' name...I can see why Jay don't fuck wit the bul, he stayed getting locked up...If you blowin up to be a legit artist and you in the public eye all the time, you can't have a dumbass nigga around you...30+ years old and you still selling drugs and running from the cops...SMH, get a life cuz, this beef wit Hov is old.
    December 2, 2007 9:11 AM
     

    NAPTOWN$OULJA74 said:

    why does this dehaven guy quit cryin like a bitch and get his own shit,Jealousy is a FEMALES TRAIT
    December 2, 2007 9:53 AM
     

    ya future father said:

    ayo bfg whats ur email i want u to finish a poem i started
    December 2, 2007 10:14 AM
     

    HoodProphet said:

    @Sagnasty

    Listen homie, this the last time Imma address you on this situation.  Any more back and forth about these niggas Jay an Dehaven gone be gay cause it really aint that serious.  

    The one thing that stood out to me about you homie is your lack of vocabulary so you use a lot of profanity as fillers.  You need to read some more books, thats brotha to brotha.

    And the other thing is you came at me on some nerd must be from the suburbs type shit because I speak on here with intelligence.  Dont get it twisted my nigga.  Im far from a suburban black dude, the hood where Im from and a small part of it gone ride with me to the end.  But thats neither here nor there.

    Whats funny is that you think its a diss to call a nigga smart.  Is being stupid still whats "in" ?  I dont know, you tell me, cause I aint been it.  But you seem like you got personal knowledge on the subject.   Thats a serious cancerous problem in our community.  That I hate you cause you smart mentality.  And on the real, I feel sorry for you more than anything.  Hopefully you just young and immature and you gone get out of that phase.  Im hopin you not no dude in your thirties on here typing with one of your fingers, taking an hour to get a sentence out.  Because on that note, its prolly gettin too late for you.  If not, and you young, then get to readin my nigga  before its too later.

    Masta lets us read now, its cool you wont get in trouble.  You aint got to use stupidity as your sanctuary no more.  

    At the end of the day, its all love and I wish you the best.

    -HP

    "I know where Im from, but Im still going.  Close minded get you no where, so I stay open"   -Me
    December 2, 2007 10:24 AM
     

    bknewstash said:

    yall need to get off Jay's dick.Jay did that nigga dirty.plain and simple.Yall would feel the same way if u were in his shoes.Jay his is daughters godfather.that says it right there.He's supposed to be in that girls life forever.Thats what a godfather does.Jay is fake.He look like a soft nigga too.And im a brooklyn nigga who AINT biased.yall niggas hatin on dehaven are stupid.How can u discredit that man.He used to live next door to Jay.all yall do is cop Jay albums and get attached.lame niggas.catchin feelings like yall really know Jay.He aint ya mans.He only respond to rappers cuz he an industry nigga.why dont he respond to dehaven.cuz he know he aint welcome in marcy.he's a Tae-bo hoe.
    December 2, 2007 10:59 AM
     

    William the III said:

    Who cares.. get over it..
    December 2, 2007 11:03 AM
     

    j.johnson said:

    so yall supporting a studio gangsta then right? so dont comment on another page about another rapper being fake, if you basically saying its ok to be fake and lie as long as you do it sweet. if all the niggas you ran with while you were "peddling roc" say you wasnt then you a fraud. I applaud the man rhyming skill but i can separate the two. If bow wow drop and album on some gangsta shit, and it sound sweet, yall should give him his props right? naw, no one will, yall would say dude fake and he aint living what he talking about...
    December 2, 2007 12:29 PM
     

    j.johnson said:

    and please dont tell me how lost,dumb, or stupid i must be...its just my opinion you either agree or diagree
    December 2, 2007 12:30 PM
     

    butrflygrl said:

    @Ya Future Father

    whatitdo folks?

    hit me @ butrflygrl1@comcast.net


    ~BFG
    December 2, 2007 1:31 PM
     

    xphaqtor said:

    “He was hanging with some “school”guys." <- That mentality right there is why we stay losing.  Oh, and apparently DeHaven doesn't understand the the definition of a "concept" album.  J. Johnson...I Disagree.
    December 2, 2007 6:27 PM
     

    baynig4sho said:

    @ jjohnson well said
    December 2, 2007 7:01 PM
     

    paradyme said:

    "GAME OVER" The game is over as it once was. The black man no longer has to push drugs to make it. And that's what the young bloods don't get. There was a time in our history and for a long time this was all we had to do because of how we were raise in drug infested neighborhoods. I came up (grew up) during the last hoo-rah...The crack era. Today we roll with popular opinion and what's fashionable. It's forever fashionable to be hood/ghetto for black folks...the current trends are to be a boss, but it's just fashion. We still look to don and justify our success through useless trinkets cars, jewlery, etc,....when do we wake up? JAY says it's gangsta to get ahead. He's not the only one though ICE CUBE, DRE, SCARFACE, all said and did it before JAY-Z. We think it's gangsta to die. More nigga shit. JAY points out the parallels to now and then....where he is and where he could have been. Yall young cats just don't get it. In a word JAY like few of our kind has escaped the circumstances, & consequences, of street life and turned his life into something prosperous. Listen to JAY pre-American Gangster soundtrack and peep his point of views. The movie just compliments where he has arrived. Ok, for the ignorant for which I am no match for, It ain't gangsta to come from the street's become a major rap figure move on to own many businesses?, promote the success of your friends and peers in the business, It's not gangsta to be approaching billion dollar status and still be a young black man. See yall give way too much respect to braun instead of brains. This is because as a people we respect confrontation. We change or contemplate corrections only in a state of fear. So it's cool to be stupid as long as your not the only dumb ass? Power in negative numbers? JAY is blessed to have survived this corporate game that many black men at any level only dream of attaining. I see where we black people live in nice better than average neighborhoods and we look to establish our selves as problems tough guys, while your mamma's and daddy's work and send you to descent schools. Nothing mean about where we live. No drugs and chance to really live a good life. We watch a couple of videos and now we tough. We want to re-live the past. The drug era has all but dried up. White folks realize that their addictive natures allows for white kids, more so than any other in America to become addicted. You think America could have come down on the cigarette trade in America if we had a real drug problem besides cigarette addiction? Crystal meth posed a threat along with exstacy but as soon as the goverment realized that these drugs could be mass produced domesticly and within the ghetto both white and black ghettos. They immediately crushed the momentum. Truthfully none of these so-called trappers  aint movin shit. Back in the days the inner city was barron, you could sell and do anything in the hood. Now we live in very nice areas. We plot on bringing back yesteryear by taking a clean graffitiless housing complex, not the projects and deliberately turn them into hustle havens? So we playin...with ourselves (That's masterbating). The worst times for black folks in America is really over. If we would wake up and respect one another and stop dragging each other down. There will be more JAY-Z's, this time with a high school diplomas and college degrees. Our aggression is misguided. Use our strengths to protect our own and what we gain....not destroy it.
    December 2, 2007 8:52 PM
     

    paradyme said:

    "GAME OVER" The game is over as it once was. The black man no longer has to push drugs to make it. And that's what the young bloods don't get. There was a time in our history and for a long time this was all we had to do because of how we were raise in drug infested neighborhoods. I came up (grew up) during the last hoo-rah...The crack era. Today we roll with popular opinion and what's fashionable. It's forever fashionable to be hood/ghetto for black folks...the current trends are to be a boss, but it's just fashion. We still look to don and justify our success through useless trinkets cars, jewlery, etc,....when do we wake up? JAY says it's gangsta to get ahead. He's not the only one though ICE CUBE, DRE, SCARFACE, all said and did it before JAY-Z. We think it's gangsta to die. More nigga shit. JAY points out the parallels to now and then....where he is and where he could have been. Yall young cats just don't get it. In a word JAY like few of our kind has escaped the circumstances, & consequences, of street life and turned his life into something prosperous. Listen to JAY pre-American Gangster soundtrack and peep his point of views. The movie just compliments where he has arrived. Ok, for the ignorant for which I am no match for, It ain't gangsta to come from the street's become a major rap figure move on to own many businesses?, promote the success of your friends and peers in the business, It's not gangsta to be approaching billion dollar status and still be a young black man. See yall give way too much respect to braun instead of brains. This is because as a people we respect confrontation. We change or contemplate corrections only in a state of fear. So it's cool to be stupid as long as your not the only dumb ass? Power in negative numbers? JAY is blessed to have survived this corporate game that many black men at any level only dream of attaining. I see where we black people live in nice better than average neighborhoods and we look to establish our selves as problems tough guys, while your mamma's and daddy's work and send you to descent schools. Nothing mean about where we live. No drugs and chance to really live a good life. We watch a couple of videos and now we tough. We want to re-live the past. The drug era has all but dried up. White folks realize that their addictive natures allows for white kids, more so than any other in America to become addicted. You think America could have come down on the cigarette trade in America if we had a real drug problem besides cigarette addiction? Crystal meth posed a threat along with exstacy but as soon as the goverment realized that these drugs could be mass produced domesticly and within the ghetto both white and black ghettos. They immediately crushed the momentum. Truthfully none of these so-called trappers  aint movin shit. Back in the days the inner city was barron, you could sell and do anything in the hood. Now we live in very nice areas. We plot on bringing back yesteryear by taking a clean graffitiless housing complex, not the projects and deliberately turn them into hustle havens? So we playin...with ourselves (That's masterbating). The worst times for black folks in America is really over. If we would wake up and respect one another and stop dragging each other down. There will be more JAY-Z's, this time with a high school diplomas and college degrees. Our aggression is misguided. Use our strengths to protect our own and what we gain....not destroy it.
    December 2, 2007 8:52 PM
     

    fifthwardtx said:

    @ GawgaBoy... - wise wordz from a street prophet! real talk...

    my $.02... - anytime you as successful as Jay, you gone have a gang of detractors, especially if you black from the hood; Willie Lynch taught us real well to hate the success we see in ourselves so it's only natural unfortunately...

    of course Jay got some hyperbole in his rhymes... i have always wondered why we as black people only consider ourselves/others real if we have murked 100 ni**as, sold 1 million kilos, and knocked down 1000 broads... truth be told as a culture we are the flyest combination of brains, brawn and creativity on God's green earth but we only deal with that aggressive side of us that was honed on the streets so that we could survive!

    There is more to our existence and realness than how much dope we sold; regardless of his past exploits, I can't help but respect Jigg's swag and how he manuevering the hip hop game and now the corporate game, you gotta love it! So dudes like DeHaven, Dame & Biggs and the others (IMO) are mad that dude ain't got them in his back pocket while doing it... real talk
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    December 3, 2007 1:49 AM
     

    MAK™ said:

    "this is what success is all about? a buncha niggas actin like bitches with big mouths?"

    "tough guy disappears then the bitch come out"

    http://myspace.com/crackproductions

    -MAK-
    December 3, 2007 7:39 AM
     

    Layne90043 said:

    i just wonder what is it he wants...okay jayz wasw a fraud...so im mean im not sure what dude expects like...is jig to give him some money? then they supposed to be cool...i dont understand what he wants/expects from this
    December 3, 2007 10:28 AM
     

    Quiseebaby said:

    Man Dude just needs a hug. He talkin about how soft niggaz was in 5th grade??? Man I from Saginaw, Mi and I know niggaz dat was push overs  in elementary now doing life. That was a irrelevant azz comment. He just mad Jay guap'd up wit a bad bitch and he still in jects. Dude just need a job and broad. I understand Jay might have shitted on him, but at the end of day niggaz get shitted on all the time. Either do something or move on but quit crying about it.
    December 3, 2007 11:10 AM
     

    DSheezy said:

    WHY IS IT WHENEVER A BLACK MAN MAKES A TON OF MONEY OR BECOMES SUCCESSFUL THAT THEY AUTOMATICALLY BECOME RESPONSIBLE FOR THE FINANCIAL SITUATION OF EVERY PERSON THEY HAVE EVER KNOWN, WENT TO SCHOOL WITH OR DID ANY KIND OF DIRT WITH? YOU NEVER HERE ABOUT WEALTHY WHITE PEOPLE BEIN PUT ON BLAST BY THERE OLD CHILDHOOD FRIENDS AND YOU KNOW THAT DUDES LIKE TRUMP AND GATES AINT DROPPIN DOE ON EVERYBODY THEY USED TO KNOW

    SO WHAT JAY AND DEHAVEN LIVED TOGETHER AND GOT THE CLAP FROM DIPPIN IN THE SAME BROADS. THAT DOES NOT ENTITLE DEHAVEN, JAZ-O OR KLEIN TO ANYTHING. NOW THERE IS ALWAYS 2 SIDES 2 EVERY STORY, BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT ANY MAN EXPECTING ANOTHER MAN TO TAKE CARE OF YOU FINANCIALLY, YOU GOT PROBLEMS.

    LET JAY DO JAY, AND THE REST OF THEM DUDES NEED TO HANDLE THEY OWN.
    December 3, 2007 1:02 PM
     

    coop1974a said:

    You all need to look at this guys web site there are guys on there that have known both them and he even talks back and forth with on the chat room part and these guys even point out that he is going about this the wrong way and they even co-sign his and Jay’s background. Dehaven even had a guy on there point how he knew that Dehaven had raped young guys in prison and he came back and said that just the prison life. In his own Youtube video he says that they hustled together. Calvin Klein even co-signed it on the radio when he was dissing him by saying that Jay was a solider that worked for him but never saw his type of money. Well the feds say klein had around 25 million. So a solider that work him may have been able to get the scraps which would still be a nice amount. Like the line that Jay said in the song on The Blueprint called “U Don’t Know” “I came into this m*therf*cker a hundred grand strong Nine to be exact, from grindin G-packs”. So maybe he didn’t make millions in the streets but $900,000 is nice guys make that crazy money go to jail for big numbers but sometimes those mid level guys can turn thier money legit.

    “U Don’t Know”

    I came into this m*therf*cker a hundred grand strong
    Nine to be exact, from grindin G-packs
    Put this sh*t in motion ain’t no rewindin me back
    Could make 40 off a brick but one rhyme could beat that
    And if somebody woulda told ‘em that Hov’ would sell clothin
    Heh, not in this lifetime, wasn’t in my right mind
    That’s another difference that’s between me and them
    Heh, I’m smarten up, open the market up
    December 3, 2007 3:05 PM
     

    EST said:

    Cosign Streetweyez Sayles

    DeHaven is really wasting time dwelling on Jay instead of focusing on self. If his hustle game was anywhere near as strong as he's claiming (1) he should have already been set up lovely when he came home and (2) he would have other ways of making money without even mentioning Jay. Dude stop crying, handle your own and maybe you might become relevant in the hip hop culture in like 5 years, right now he just sounds like some cornball on the outside desperately trying and dying to get in.
    December 3, 2007 3:47 PM
     

    toldu said:

    Jayz not showing hime no luv then fuck it then move on. Move on if he's a hustler hell get that money. jay cant hold everyones hand. If haven is a boss then he needs to be about his own shit and keep jays name out his mouth.
    December 3, 2007 8:36 PM
     

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