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Hip-Hop Rumors: Two Weddings For Jay-Z & Beyonce - Next Up - FRANCE? 
Published Friday, April 04, 2008 8:00 PM
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By illseed

DISCLAIMER:


All content within this section is pure rumor and generally have no factual info outside of what the streets have whispered in our ear. Read on.


YESTERDAY’S RUMORS!


Hip-Hop Rumors Exclusive: Rick James Sex Tape On The Way?


Hip-Hop Rumors: Bey-Z To Marry? RIP Sean Levert! Bush Gets Booed!


Hip-Hop Rumors: New Video Nas! Lil' Wayne Mans Up In Philly! Who Shot Max B?


TODAY'S RUMORS!


**UPDATE** Some Pictures




Mr. Knowles and Jay-Z's mother head to the gala.






Tent on top of Jay-Z's building




Pics from the New York Post.


**UPDATE** A SECOND WEDDING IN FRANCE?


Beyoncé and Jay-Z are now rumored to be getting married two times! They are supposedly getting married in New York today (April 4) but also they are also jumping the broom in France, according to In Touch. Apparently, the pair are obssessive over the number four and HAD to have thison 4/4/04. Then there is supposedly going to be another one on MAY 4 IN FRANCE. They are throwing off the numerology right now, but fine.

THE JAY-Z / BEYONCE MARRIAGE (OR WHATEVER THIS IS) RUN DOWN!


Well, Well, Well.


Here are all the things I am hearing.


They are actually  married already!


It’s all bogus!


Ashton and his show finally found the “ONE” and hopes it will work for the best!


It ain’t a wedding, but an engagement party!


AllHipHop.com had a pair of people down there and they left. Sources close to the situation said that it is just a major hoax and that the pair would never get married in Tribecca.


Also, another person said that this is merely a diversion.


Also, tmz got a picture of Tina Knowles, Beyonce’s mom really causal at about 5:47 pm. Their source said there was a party tonight. Nothing more. Also, B’s pops Matthew was seen casual too walking into the Bloomberg building in NYC. Errrrrrr….not looking good!


Also, Jay-Z has a concert on Saturday with Mary J. Honeymoon? Nope!


According to tmz.com, Jay-Z's mama and Beyonce's mother rode into the venue in the same car, at the same time.


Thanks again tmz – they are over at the Bloomberg building all wearing white! Run over there razzis! Jay-Z’s mother is in a formal dress! Solange – WHITE!


Jay-Z just signed a $150 million deal with Live Nation. Maybe its just Jay Day and everybody’s celebrating? Its going down!


NO…


Kelly just arrived in a WHITE DRESS (I know she is looking damn good!)


8:05 - Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Martin who just arrived! COLD PLAY IN THE HIZZOUSE! Coldplay doesn't show up for BS!


(Suddenly, I wonder...Does Rihanna get an invite to this?)


8:16 pm - Mr. Knowles is there in a SILVER JACKET! Shinin'!


8:23 pm - Some of the people were spotted leaving the Bloomberg center in NYC...where are thy going!?


(Will Bleek remove his doo rag?)


What I am hearing is that there are only about 30 peope invited to this lil' affair.


9:16 pm - Perez Hilton says the United States Secret Service inside to sweep the place for danger, the media or illseed.


10:16 pm - I am going to take a nap. E-mail me when something new pops up. ahhrumors@gmail.com.


WHAT WE KNOW:


Jay-Z / Beyonce Wedding Location Revealed?


Jay-Z and Beyonce got their marriage license and now the place they will be married is starting to leak.


The entertainment powerhouse is rumored to be married in a Hudson Street condo they own in the Tribecca section of Manhattan, reports entertainment blog The Greasy Guide. Also, the nuptials will reportedly occur at 6 pm.


Click here for more.


Kelly and Michelle giggling like school girls:



(RUMORS FROM EARLIER TODAY)


NOT THE BEST DAY TO GET MARRIED! (BUT THEY ARE MAKING IT SUNNY)


It is cold and raining in the New York area so if Jay-Z and Beyonce are getting married, they may have a beef with Mother Nature. People have been looking hard at whether or not Jay-Z and B got married or not. I say no, but there are all sorts of looks like Jay-Z’s B-Day (December 4) and B’s Birthday (September 4). Don’t forget those tattoos. And, April 4th! And 4 + 4 = 08! LOL. People are totally reaching, but if it happens…we’ll all look silly. Anyway, best wishes with that!


They say that Jay-Z attended some type of private after party on April 2 (the day after applying for the marriage license) that really resembled a bachelor party with all the scantily clad women. Was Jay-Z getting his last hurrah in with the ladies? (Shout out to Gareth from T-Dot on the concert break down!)


YESTERDAY, WE LOVE YOU!


They keep us talking, but if we stop talking about them then they should worry!

-illseed

WHO: illseed
WHAT: Rumors
WHERE: AllHipHop.com, MySpace.com/TheIllseed
HOW: Send your rumors and ill pics to illseed at ahhrumors@gmail.com.

- allhiphop rumors


Comments

 

jubilee.shine said:

you cd fk mine
how in the hell can you knock that?

jes playin the cards chose to me.
April 4, 2008 8:19 PM
 

fullgalaxy1 said:

WHO CARES FUCK THEM BOTH DAMN LET DA BOY LIVE DAMN MY NUTS GOT MARRIED TO MY DICK LOL THAT'S NEWS RIGHT THERE LOL
April 4, 2008 8:19 PM
 

illseed said:

LOLOLOLOL
hahahahaahahahaha
April 4, 2008 8:23 PM
 

illseed said:

LOLOLOLOL
hahahahaahahahaha
April 4, 2008 8:23 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

classybitch miss yall 2!

dam officeworkers sneakin online....... lol

April 4, 2008 8:24 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

watch these bronx high school art students watch obama speech!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9IldaegAB0

thats whats really good!
April 4, 2008 8:27 PM
 

TOHN007 said:

Damn this is too much to follow! Good luck to them both if it went down today. I still love Popeye's chicken eating Beyonce over skinnier Hollywood Beyonce.
April 4, 2008 8:29 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

bossup here go some activists goin against gentrification in l.a.-

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Main Entry: gen·try  
Pronunciation: \ˈjen-trē\
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural gentries
Etymology: Middle English gentrie, alteration of gentrise
Date: 14th century
1 obsolete : the qualities appropriate to a person of gentle birth; especially : courtesy b: the condition or rank of a gentleman
2 a: upper or ruling class : aristocracy b: a class whose members are entitled to bear a coat of arms though not of noble rank; especially : the landed proprietors having such status
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April 4, 2008 8:39 PM
 

Chicano Kid said:

i agree wit fullgalaxy1.
April 4, 2008 8:39 PM
 

Dice_Thrower said:

This just in: Nas and Kelis are boycotting the whole event.  They are upset wih the media bias towards B and Jay, when they let everyone know when they were getting maried and still nobody cared. Do I have to look forward to more Jay and B collabos now...GREAT!
April 4, 2008 8:42 PM
 

LXA said:

"Illseed for threeeeeeeeeee....."

3 rumours pages... in one day?!?!

Now THATS gangsta
April 4, 2008 8:42 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

dr. king was assassinated exactly 1 year
to the day after this speech:
-----------------------------

Beyond Vietnam: A Time to Break Silence
By Rev. Martin Luther King
4 April 1967
http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/45a/058.html

"...The only change came from America as we increased our troop commitments in support of governments which were singularly corrupt, inept and without popular support. All the while the people read our leaflets and received regular promises of peace and democracy -- and land reform. Now they languish under our bombs and consider us -- not their fellow Vietnamese --the real enemy. They move sadly and apathetically as we herd them off the land of their fathers into concentration camps where minimal social needs are rarely met. They know they must move or be destroyed by our bombs. So they go -- primarily women and children and the aged.

They watch as we poison their water, as we kill a million acres of their crops. They must weep as the bulldozers roar through their areas preparing to destroy the precious trees. They wander into the hospitals, with at least twenty casualties from American firepower for one "Vietcong"-inflicted injury. So far we may have killed a million of them -- mostly children. They wander into the towns and see thousands of the children, homeless, without clothes, running in packs on the streets like animals. They see the children, degraded by our soldiers as they beg for food. They see the children selling their sisters to our soldiers, soliciting for their mothers.

What do the peasants think as we ally ourselves with the landlords and as we refuse to put any action into our many words concerning land reform? What do they think as we test our latest weapons on them, just as the Germans tested out new medicine and new tortures in the concentration camps of Europe? Where are the roots of the independent Vietnam we claim to be building? Is it among these voiceless ones? ...

If we continue, there will be no doubt in my mind and in the mind of the world that we have no honorable intentions in Vietnam. It will become clear that our minimal expectation is to occupy it as an American colony and men will not refrain from thinking that our maximum hope is to goad China into a war so that we may bomb her nuclear installations. If we do not stop our war against the people of Vietnam immediately the world will be left with no other alternative than to see this as some horribly clumsy and deadly game we have decided to play.

The world now demands a maturity of America that we may not be able to achieve. It demands that we admit that we have been wrong from the beginning of our adventure in Vietnam, that we have been detrimental to the life of the Vietnamese people. The situation is one in which we must be ready to turn sharply from our present ways.

In order to atone for our sins and errors in Vietnam, we should take the initiative in bringing a halt to this tragic war. I would like to suggest five concrete things that our government should do immediately to begin the long and difficult process of extricating ourselves from this nightmarish conflict:


End all bombing in North and South Vietnam.
Declare a unilateral cease-fire in the hope that such action will create the atmosphere for negotiation.
Take immediate steps to prevent other battlegrounds in Southeast Asia by curtailing our military buildup in Thailand and our interference in Laos.
Realistically accept the fact that the National Liberation Front has substantial support in South Vietnam and must thereby play a role in any meaningful negotiations and in any future Vietnam government.
Set a date that we will remove all foreign troops from Vietnam in accordance with the 1954 Geneva agreement. ...

I am convinced that if we are to get on the right side of the world revolution, we as a nation must undergo a radical revolution of values. We must rapidly begin the shift from a "thing-oriented" society to a "person-oriented" society. When machines and computers, profit motives and property rights are considered more important than people, the giant triplets of racism, materialism, and militarism are incapable of being conquered. ...
April 4, 2008 8:53 PM
 

illseed said:

I'm cocking all my weapons son!
April 4, 2008 9:04 PM
 

draenonymous? said:

yo this shit is CRAZY!!! why are we so infatuated with dumb shit like this? Who's life is this really gonna change? None of the poeple stuck on following it, that's for sure.
April 4, 2008 9:11 PM
 

QBoogieSSP said:

April 4, 2008 9:15 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:


dr king was assassinated 1 month
to the day after this fbi memo-

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


[From] Director, FBI

 COUNTERINTELLIGENCE PROGRAM
 BLACK NATIONALIST - HATE GROUPS
 INTERNAL SECURITY


[...] The purpose of this new counterintelligence endeavor is toexpose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or OTHERWISE NEUTRALIZE [emphasis added] the activities of black ...

COUNTERINTELLIGENCE PROGRAM
  BLACK NATIONALIST - HATE GROUPS
  RACIAL INTELLIGENCE                            

                3/4/68

[...]

GOALS
~~~~~
For maximum effectiveness of the Counterintelligence Program, and to prevent wasted effort, long-range goals are being set.

1.  Prevent the COALITION of militant black nationalist groups.  In unity there is strength; a truism that is no less valid for all its  triteness.  An effective coalition of black nationalist groups might be the first step toward a real "Mau Mau" [Black revolutionary army] in America, the beginning of a true black revolution.

2.  Prevent the RISE OF A "MESSIAH" who could unify, and electrify, the militant black nationalist movement.  Malcolm X might have been such a "messiah;" he is the martyr of the movement today.  Martin Luther King, Stokely Carmichael and Elijah Muhammed all aspire to this position.  Elijah Muhammed is less of a threat because of his age.  King could be a very real contender for this position should he abandon his supposed "obedience" to "white, liberal doctrines" (nonviolence) and embrace black nationalism.  Carmichael has the necessary charisma to be a real threat in this way....
April 4, 2008 9:15 PM
 

Metropolis Gold_ahh said:

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http://www.Myspace.com/JesseJamesCorp

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April 4, 2008 9:16 PM
 

Cmacjb said:

@Illseed: Damn Ill you really concern about this wedding man, this is the 3rd rumor about them LOL.
April 4, 2008 9:21 PM
 

Tommy K. said:

lol @ Sean and Beyonce' Carter. thats if they got married...
April 4, 2008 9:22 PM
 

Dice_Thrower said:

I heard B and Jay are aliens... now that's news worthy!
April 4, 2008 9:41 PM
 

illseed said:

ok. this is boring me.

Cmacjb - i'm just doing ma job, mayne! but its not really going down like i thought it was...
April 4, 2008 10:07 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

Im confused as a mutha!
All I wanna know is this:
Did they get married or not??!!
April 4, 2008 10:08 PM
 

Beyonce » Hip-Hop Rumors: Jay-Z & Beyonce’s Wedding…NOW! said:

April 4, 2008 10:13 PM
 

Cmacjb said:

They prob already got married and been fooling people all along.
April 4, 2008 10:17 PM
 

LXA said:

I heard that Jay Z and Memphis Bleek got married
April 4, 2008 10:20 PM
 

aj22 said:

Illseed, what it do pimpin?

Ummm...... just for the record....ladies i tryed to really go all out but i guess my pics showed too much but i figured hey why not , LD did her thang   : ).......just a lil less clothes next time, and um more like the calendar i sent through LOL!!!


April 4, 2008 10:22 PM
 

KINGDONG said:

NOW JAY! NOW ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS SQUIRT IN B NOW........ALL MAN!!!!!!! I KNOW SHE TIGHT...........
April 4, 2008 10:23 PM
 

illseed said:

aj22 likes gay men hahahahaa
i'm kidding, but her pix were for gay men.
April 4, 2008 10:27 PM
 

EastSide Drumma said:

Wow.... They going through all this trouble to keep it secret and we still found them..... SMH!
April 4, 2008 10:32 PM
 

aj22 said:

illseed said:
aj22 likes gay men hahahahaa
i'm kidding, but her pix were for gay men.
April 4, 2008 10:27 PM

i like the men who showing the goods hahhahahha

hold up hold up .....why my pics got to be for the gay community though, so what women dont want to see what men work wit? You know we do, LOL (please to all the gay men on ahh looking at tyson pics please dont take offense, i'm asking a question)
April 4, 2008 10:33 PM
 

Smashit said:

They married... they not married... they married - LOOK man!

Unless they got married - invited R. Kelly & he came & fucked all the guests - this shit is boring already - CONGRATS!

Now can we get back to business as usual??
April 4, 2008 10:37 PM
 

LXA said:

aj22 said:

Illseed, what it do pimpin?

Ummm...... just for the record....ladies i tryed to really go all out but i guess my pics showed too much but i figured hey why not , LD did her thang   : ).......just a lil less clothes next time, and um more like the calendar i sent through LOL!!!
-----------------------------------------------

Huh?

What are you talking about? Do I actually have to read the rumours to understand your comment? Is it something related to them?

Anyway Im glad youre here.

Where is everyone? Just because its Friday night, doesnt mean that everyone shouldnt be at home on their computers
April 4, 2008 10:38 PM
 

Don Won said:

another exciting friday night on ahh. what's the deal everybody


fullgalaxy1 said:
WHO CARES FUCK THEM BOTH DAMN LET DA BOY LIVE DAMN MY NUTS GOT MARRIED TO MY DICK LOL THAT'S NEWS RIGHT THERE LOL


that's some funny shit.  hahahaha
April 4, 2008 10:40 PM
 

aj22 said:

tact...... there r so many ways to voice an opinion. come on in fellas LOL
April 4, 2008 10:42 PM
 

LXA said:

LXA said:

Huh?

What are you talking about? Do I actually have to read the rumours to understand your comment? Is it something related to them?
-------------------------------------------------------

Sounded kinda like I dissed you there hahaha, sorry
April 4, 2008 10:48 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

this what i'm talkin bout!
all hail the haitian freedom fighters!
-----------------------------------

Haitians riot over prices, attack U.N. peacekeepers 1 hour, 19 minutes ago


MIAMI (Reuters) - Protesters angry over rising living costs rioted in the southwestern Haitian town of Les Cayes, burning shops, shooting at peacekeepers and looting containers in a U.N. compound, the United Nations said in a statement on Friday.

Les Cayes was still tense after the riots on Thursday, and the U.N. force trying to maintain the peace in the volatile Caribbean country sent 100 peacekeepers as reinforcements, the statement said.

Food prices in Haiti, the poorest country in the Americas, have soared in recent months, stoking anger against the government of President Rene Preval.
April 4, 2008 10:48 PM
 

LXA said:

Smashit said:

Unless they got married - invited R. Kelly & he came & fucked all the guests - this shit is boring already - CONGRATS!
----------------------------------------------

Hahaha



@ Don Won:

Whats up?
April 4, 2008 10:49 PM
 

aj22 said:

lxa from the other page.........
 illseed said:
 
FREEZE NITTI - i ddint put those in there, lady drama did and aj22

they conspired man, sheeesh

rick james was the man...make sure u read that interview
April 4, 2008 6:57 PM  


my pics that i wanted up did not make it thur ,but someone  i   aint gonna say names but someone sent me a pics for the calendar(ahh's men 2008 ) one word wow! U know who u are

damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 4, 2008 10:51 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

@LXA:
Question...
Where in Spain are you? Cuz I was talking to my academic advisor yesterday, and she was sayin how, with how many credits I already have from AP classes coming into college, I can do a semester studying abroad the year after next, and one of the 4 options is Madrid. (I think the other one I would be interested in would be London, in case you wonderin.)

Damn, my homeboy's got me on lock!
Roommate and another homie gon' have about 10 girls, with just the 3 of us guys, in here soon partying!
April 4, 2008 10:52 PM
 

LXA said:

aj22 said:


my pics that i wanted up did not make it thur ,but someone  i   aint gonna say names but someone sent me a pics for the calendar(ahh's men 2008 ) one word wow! U know who u are

damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
---------------------------------------------------------

Are you serious?? Someone sent you some? Hahaha
April 4, 2008 11:03 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

From 2 pages back...

@Marty MacFly:
I learned that yesterday, no doubt. Never gon' make that mistake again.

@Classy:
I had a feelin that's why that was your quote.
And the bonus is so true, which is why I didn't answer the phone when it just rang.
Love & Respect for those quotes!

@c_a_k:
Yep, pretty much, that's what happened.
And don't worry, I'm not answerin them.
Thanks for sayin that, ma, 'preciate it.

@myopinion:
Yep, that's how I gotta look at it.
Props on that!

@college almost-dropout:
Props on that, and I aint goin back, I'm lookin forward.
She probably think she still got me wrapped around her finger, but not any more. And she gon' have to get that through her thick head.

@LXA:
lmao at that. Nah, I aint gonna diss the girl, I'm not one to go that low over somethin like this. As long as she dont go at my kinfolk, I aint gonna say anything to her. I'm done with her, in every way, for good.  And yeah its the Muppets. I know for sure cuz they have (or at least had, its been a few yrs since I been there) a Muppets 3D show @ Hollywood Studios (used to be MGM) @ Disney here.

@jrzeema:
I hear you on that. And its true, too, no doubt bout that.

@EMONEY617:
Props on all that. That aint gonna happen, cuz I know my homegirl will have me on lock, makin sure I do what it do.

@MaryJanesHusband:
haha, she wont even admit that, but I bet you right.

@Sears Tower:
That's a fukkin good idea, gettin a girl on the voicemail! I might just have to do it.


And really, if she wants me to choose between her and the fam/my kinfolk, I already made that choice.

BTW, she called right after she got off of work, at like 4:00 this afternoon, but like I said, I didnt answer.
April 4, 2008 11:05 PM
 

ILLippines said:

Bout time they get married! Damn!
April 4, 2008 11:05 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

And now she just called again.
This time instead of letting it ring, I hit reject, just sent her straight to voicemail.
April 4, 2008 11:06 PM
 

LXA said:

@ gunot_17:

Man Im in Granada, which is in Andalucía, South Syyyyyde. Its about 5 hours away from Madrid. A year studying abroad, I would seriously recommend it dude, it would be a great experience.

Hey youre having a party tonight?! Man hit the AHH team with live updates! And pictures! Haha
April 4, 2008 11:09 PM
 

LXA said:

@ gunot_17:

Hey I checked out that 'Big Dreams' remix, it didnt have the big names on it like the 'One Blood' remix, but I guess hes doing his thing for his side, with new artists, which is kinda cool... except what happened to the instrumental when the second dude came on?
April 4, 2008 11:12 PM
 

LXA said:

@ GawgaBwoy770:

aj22 told me about your pictures
April 4, 2008 11:17 PM
 

aj22 said:

Peace too AHH Ladies and Gents.......

but i am about to head for trouble tonight , i got on the guest list this morning at the club....me and my homie girl gonna be all in door.......i will holla  : )
April 4, 2008 11:20 PM
 

aj22 said:

LXA said:
@ GawgaBwoy770:

aj22 told me about your pictures
April 4, 2008 11:17 PM


i just saw that , lxa for real man u cant do that cause really it aint even him... i talk to a lot of folks on here too many for yall to narrow down ....but he is hella cool and i dont want him thinking the wrong thing for real..... no detective work tonight pimpin'. someone you would neva imagine, but yeah ole boy is packing for real wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

April 4, 2008 11:25 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

@LXA:
haha, aight, and yeah it would be like 4 months (1 semester)

Nah, you aint gonna want pics, the ladies made other plans. But I'll be takin plenty of pics with Brittany's friends tomorrow, so I'll post those!

On the Big Dreams remix, he puttin WC artists on the come up on it, thats why its not big name people.  I actually like it better than One Blood remix right now.
And IDK, I think the DJ just messed up mixin it.
April 4, 2008 11:28 PM
 

LXA said:

@ aj22:

If you dont want us guessing, then why even tell us?...
April 4, 2008 11:30 PM
 

LXA said:

aj22 said:

but yeah ole boy is packing for real wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
------------------------------------------------------

He sent a picture of his dick??!!

Damn, B*braze!

lol
April 4, 2008 11:31 PM
 

LXA said:

aj22 said:

....but he is hella cool and i dont want him thinking the wrong thing for real..
------------------------------------

Youre right, SEARS TOWER is hella cool
April 4, 2008 11:32 PM
 

LXA said:

aj22 said:

someone you would neva imagine
----------------------------------------------

Youre right, I never wouldve imagined that jjgreenis would send you pictures like that!
April 4, 2008 11:34 PM
 

LXA said:

@ gunot_17:

Ok, yeah I figured it must be like 4 months or something, a lot of Americans come through here and tell me theyve got 4 months. It would be worth it man. What were the other two locations?
April 4, 2008 11:40 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

@LXA:
I know Paris was one of them, but I'm not interested in that, really. Just not a huge fan of France, or at least of the idea of going there. Dont remember the other place.
So if I did it, it'd be between Madrid and London.
April 4, 2008 11:55 PM
 

LXA said:

Damn, its as dead as a mofo up in here (a dead mofo).

Illseed, you still there? Give me an exclusive interview
April 5, 2008 12:06 AM
 

DC CA$HVILLE said:

@Jay-Z and Beyonce

You two are a good couple and are likable artist, but i got two words for you both.

WHO CARES!!!

Peace and more hair grease,

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
April 5, 2008 12:20 AM
 

DC CA$HVILLE said:

@ILLippines avatar

Don't shoot me!!! (lol)

Peace and more hair grease,

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
April 5, 2008 12:24 AM
 

DirtyWest said:

OK!

HAVE YALL HEARD ABOUT THE NEW RAPPER DR. DRE IS ABOUT 2 SIGN. CHECK HIM OUT. HE IS DOPE ASS HELL!

LISTEN NOW @ http://myspace.com/krazedouteross
April 5, 2008 12:26 AM
 

LXA said:

DC CA$HVILLE said:

@Jay-Z and Beyonce

You two are a good couple and are likable artist, but i got two words for you both.

WHO CARES!!!
---------------------------------------

Illseed lol
April 5, 2008 12:27 AM
 

DC CA$HVILLE said:

@AHH

Good night and hope the bed bugs don't bite Illseed in the ass!!! (lol)

Just kidding.

Peace and more hair grease,

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
April 5, 2008 12:29 AM
 

B*braze said:

LXA said:
aj22 said:

but yeah ole boy is packing for real wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
------------------------------------------------------

He sent a picture of his dick??!!

Damn, B*braze!

lol
********************************************
nah. it was rick muthafuckin james...
April 5, 2008 12:39 AM
 

Grimm44 said:

I still laugh hard.
You stuck on that syrup.
April 5, 2008 1:28 AM
 

LXA said:

Last!
April 5, 2008 1:28 AM
 

LXA said:

DirtyWest said:

OK!

HAVE YALL HEARD ABOUT THE NEW RAPPER DR. DRE HAS NEVER EVEN HEARD OF? CHECK HIM OUT. HE IS WACK AS FUCK!
----------------------------------------------------

Co-sign
April 5, 2008 1:37 AM
 

Boss Up said:

illseed u high?
April 5, 2008 1:38 AM
 

Smallaxe said:

Hi im from Toronto Canada, thats north of America, its actually in northern America for those who dont know. I like ppls comments on here, sometimes i juss skip the rumours and go straight to the comments... so ahhh... ya!... all you funny comment ppl keep up the good work(thumbs up)....

oh and i have a Mypace too, juss click on my name and badda bing!  Holla.
April 5, 2008 1:51 AM
 

ShawtyCake said:

Wow all this coverage is making me sick.
April 5, 2008 2:50 AM
 

INNOCENT39 said:

FINALLY NOW LETZ GET BACK TO BIZNESS AND DROP THAT BLUEPRINT3
April 5, 2008 3:10 AM
 

LXA said:

@ Smallaxe:

Is that you on both tracks? You rap and sing?

April 5, 2008 5:07 AM
 

weedman666 said:

April 5, 2008 5:53 AM
 

International said:

damn...yall need to get of theirs already...smh, no wonder they be doin all this 007 type ceremonies an shyt, get off their dick/pussy...
April 5, 2008 8:26 AM
 

MaryJanesHusband said:

Jay and B gave one of these to the media...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTWOj0Sifxw



April 5, 2008 10:15 AM
 

WILLY KILLEM? said:

ENOUGH on the play by play JAY & BEYONCE shit!, yes these people are the music business's elite, but they sneaking around with this wedding for a reason......THEY..WANT...PRIVACY!, If they dont really want us to know, i dont wanna know.
April 5, 2008 10:17 AM
 

butrflygrl said:

whatitbeliiiiike folks?

comin to check on y'all!

hope every1's been doin good.

i missed y'all! ;)


so they really got married, huh?

congratz 2 Jay & Bey.

hope they never regret it.

(oooh, let me stop projecting. LOL)

anyway, the date makes sense considering the infamous "IV"

tats they share, 4/4/08.

they really put some deep thought into it on that 1.

wow.

famous people! SMH

just kiddin,

they do have to have their own special meaning and

importance around it.

i do truly wish them the best.

so now that said,

who wants to bet on how long it'll last????????

i got $5 that says they'll be divorced w/in 2 years.

LMAO LMAO

i'm so bad!

just talkin shit...

i'm sure they'll stay married forever just like her parents.





~BFG
April 5, 2008 10:26 AM
 

ya future father said:

what it do ahh fam?
April 5, 2008 10:31 AM
 

IManage said:

Man, WTF??????
Why do we have a rundown by the hour of yesterday's fiasco as the rumors.  
All I know is Jay-Z ass better be in G'boro tonight for this damn concert.  That is all I care about.  If I have to see Dream and Mary J.  I am going to throw a Kanye West.
April 5, 2008 10:31 AM
 

aj22 said:

DirtyWest said:
OK!

HAVE YALL HEARD ABOUT THE NEW RAPPER DR. DRE IS ABOUT 2 SIGN. CHECK HIM OUT. HE IS DOPE ASS HELL!

LISTEN NOW @ http



this is all i know.........
for my gangsta hustlas everyday, what....

bottom to the top= $

1,000 dreams

OK!

April 5, 2008 10:40 AM
 

aj22 said:

  butrflygrl ..........glad @ see u back  : )
April 5, 2008 10:41 AM
 

bigikeva said:

cap city in the house 804 all day
April 5, 2008 10:44 AM
 

college almost-dropout said:

@Gunot
yup yup... thas how u gotta treat em... i did the opposite and got into a messy situation... im still tryna clean up, but she gotta know man... and along with the voicemail... u kno what'll really fuck her up... i kno, u know some female friends that'll answer the phone for you and let em say whatever (them as the girlfriend is the worst) lol Well i got some cool ass devious females that'd do it for me lol... but dont do it for revenge or spite... thas not what its about... do it if broad cant take a hint...
April 5, 2008 11:15 AM
 

college almost-dropout said:

@BFG
Butrfly!!!!! Whas good!! Where u been @ yo :( Dont worry, u were missed too pimpin lol
April 5, 2008 11:20 AM
 

DirtyWest said:

good!

HAVE YALL HEARD ABOUT THE NEW RAPPER DR. DRE IS ABOUT 2 SIGN. CHECK HIM OUT. HE IS DOPE ASS HELL!

LISTEN NOW @ http://myspace.com/krazedouteross
April 5, 2008 11:29 AM
 

doeboi5000 said:

this rumor/information/news or whatever has been going on about Jay & B being married for a few days now and i'm tired of hearing about it already...does nobody else sees what's wrong wit people being so obsessed with celebrities' lives....IF it's all true, i'm happy for them, but chill out...

why cant yall just wait for an official announcement?? and if we never get one, SO WHAT...let Jay & B do what they wanna do..
April 5, 2008 11:36 AM
 

ya future father said:

@ bfg
where u been?
April 5, 2008 11:41 AM
 

WhutTheeHail said:

If they are then they are..

I mean I just wish they would get it over with so the world can move on..

LMAO @ what someone said about Nas and Kelis -- messed up.
April 5, 2008 11:43 AM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

@ aj22

glad @ see u back  

How was the club?

r2d2 where u at HOME BOY?
April 5, 2008 11:46 AM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

  WILLY KILLEM? said:
ENOUGH on the play by play JAY & BEYONCE shit!, yes these people are the music business's elite, but they sneaking around with this wedding for a reason......THEY..WANT...PRIVACY!, If they dont really want us to know, i dont wanna know.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Just turn head yo head pimp and act like you didn't just read that. then you want know that they just got married!
April 5, 2008 11:48 AM
 

illseed said:

doeboi5000 - yo, i dont get why people criticize rumors and gossip so much. EVERYBODY participates. just being here, you participating and everybody wants to be on the inside. when you aint, you push your way in as much as possible. and on the real, im not even into gossip like that. this column has evolved dramatically. i'm into hip-hop. i want to know what really happend with 50 cent and ja rule. what really happened with jay and dame. did canibus really retire? these are the think i want to know, but how different is that than this jay / b crap? i dont nec love "gossip" but ppl like to talk about ppl. and it is what it is.

Congrats to jay and beyonce, i have intel and i know that its 100% true. not from anybody elses' media either. its official..
April 5, 2008 12:00 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

illseed said:
doeboi5000 - yo, i dont get why people criticize rumors and gossip so much. EVERYBODY participates. just being here, you participating and everybody wants to be on the inside. when you aint, you push your way in as much as possible. and on the real, im not even into gossip like that. this column has evolved dramatically. i'm into hip-hop. i want to know what really happend with 50 cent and ja rule. what really happened with jay and dame. did canibus really retire? these are the think i want to know, but how different is that than this jay / b crap? i dont nec love "gossip" but ppl like to talk about ppl. and it is what it is.

Congrats to jay and beyonce, i have intel and i know that its 100% true. not from anybody elses' media either. its official..
-------------------------------------------------------------
I 100 THAT!
SO IN OTHER WORD
SHUT YO ASS UP!
LOG ON OR LOG OFF PUNK!
April 5, 2008 12:15 PM
 

junegemini said:

HELLO!!
April 5, 2008 12:15 PM
 

Grimm44 said:

What goes on illseed.
Do ppl really have you steamed like that? Speak on.
April 5, 2008 12:25 PM
 

junegemini said:

still missing my TWON!
April 5, 2008 12:26 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

@college almost-dropout:
haha, I might have to do that if she dont stop.
But we'll see. Hopefully she gets the point soon.
April 5, 2008 12:30 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

 junegemini said:
still missing my TWON!

WHAT YOU MISS ABOUT HIM?
April 5, 2008 12:30 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

awwww shucks y'all!

thnx 4 checkin 4 me.

yeah and i'm back like i never left! lol



@aj22

thnx girl,

glad to be back.

fa real.

what y'all been up to?

i already know i missed alot...



@College

yeah i was just on a clear my mind trip...

all thru the D!

had 2 go home 4 a min. LOL j/p

how u doin tho?

i missed y'all 2.

no doubt.

and so, we finally see ur face huh?

okay, College Boy, bout time! LOL




@YFF

whatitdo?

i ain't really been nowhere...

here and there, u feel me?

i was still up in WTE,

u should know that already

readin hella old drops.

haven't seen any new work from u in there btw.

when u gon drop somethin else?



ay co-sign Illseed 2.

we are social creatures,

we need to communicate and interact

to survive and function properly.

so, of course, people talk.

it's human nature.

and it's not just women either.

men run they mouth, just as much...

my only concern about people talkin

is their intent behind it.

malice, spite, and jealousy

vs.

genuine interest/concern.

if ur complainin about rumors and people talkin

then why u goin out ur way to come to a rumors page

in the 1st place? SMH






~BFG
April 5, 2008 12:37 PM
 

junegemini said:

i just miss seeing the name TWON

:(   SEARS TOWER does nothing for me  lol

but i do miss my TWON though
April 5, 2008 12:41 PM
 

Ken_P said:

IM BACK BATCHES!!! JUST FOR A MINUTE THOUGH....

@ bfg- what it do cuzzo

@ illseed- your avi got me dyin... hahahahaha

@ "the bullshitter"- keep yo mouth shut and check yo gmail

@ lxa- youz a fool my nigga

@ june- quit swingin from the nigga nuts...hahahaha...just fuckin wit ya

SHOUT OUT TO MY MUFUCKIN NIGGA ARIES20....yall niggas betta be cool wit her or im finna roast niggas and make yall niggas sign off when i sign on....chocolaterain know what im talkin bout...hahahahaha

IM OUT BATCHES...HAVE A SAFE WEEKEND YOU PIECES OF SHIT
April 5, 2008 12:59 PM
 

ya future father said:

@ bfg
probably gonna wait until i find something out with my book, not gonna put nothing new until u do lol
April 5, 2008 1:00 PM
 

Str8 said:

They are in Jay & Bey's business 4 real

Google Str8 Business

Download my mixtape "The Ea$y Money Mixtape" 4 free

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=2SWBG0NR
April 5, 2008 1:09 PM
 

chocolaterain said:

 
illseed said:
doeboi5000 - yo, i dont get why people criticize rumors and gossip so much. EVERYBODY participates. just being here, you participating and everybody wants to be on the inside. when you aint, you push your way in as much as possible. and on the real, im not even into gossip like that. this column has evolved dramatically. i'm into hip-hop. i want to know what really happend with 50 cent and ja rule. what really happened with jay and dame. did canibus really retire? these are the think i want to know, but how different is that than this jay / b crap? i dont nec love "gossip" but ppl like to talk about ppl. and it is what it is.

Congrats to jay and beyonce, i have intel and i know that its 100% true. not from anybody elses' media either. its official..
April 5, 2008 12:00 PM
^^^
co-sign. People shoutng that they dont care but read every article and r the 1st to comment? ningguh pleez

The fact is...its hot gossip/rumour...so quit whining or just skip the article
April 5, 2008 1:20 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

 junegemini said:
i just miss seeing the name TWON

:(   SEARS TOWER does nothing for me  lol

but i do miss my TWON though

DAMN!!  I WILL SEE WHAT I CAN
April 5, 2008 1:29 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

okay, so TWON + Chef = SEARS TOWER?

hmmm. LMAO


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP1P1_WE2O8


so what the HELL else did i miss?

ha ha y'all crazy!



whaddup Ken_P & my girl junegem



@Ya Future Father

so what's up w/ the book?

u bout to make it happen?

like that?

yeah, last one i dropped was like 2 weeks ago.

Crossroads.

i still been writing tho.

u know.





~BFG
April 5, 2008 1:59 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

  butrflygrl said:
okay, so TWON + Chef = SEARS TOWER?

hmmm. LMAO

come man not you2

TWON=SEARS TOWER

I DNT KNW DUDE CHEF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdaAWFoWr2c
April 5, 2008 2:14 PM
 

LXA said:

Whats up AHH team??

butrflygrl (}i{) is back!

Whats up SEARS TOWER?

Shout out to my future father!


Ken_P said:

IM OUT BATCHES...HAVE A SAFE WEEKEND YOU PIECES OF SHIT
--------------------------

Hahaha.... Whats up Ken_P?


April 5, 2008 2:29 PM
 

LXA said:

@ aj22:

Whats up, are you ignoring me now?!
April 5, 2008 2:30 PM
 

LXA said:

SEARS TOWER said:

I DNT KNW DUDE CHEF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdaAWFoWr2c
-------------------------------------

Haha what was that shit at the end of the video? Was that real or scripted? Hmmm maybe I'll have to wait until the next episode of Jewelry Man to find out
April 5, 2008 2:37 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

LXA said:

Shout out to my future father!


LOL..
April 5, 2008 2:40 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

April 5, 2008 2:41 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

*****FLASH!!!!!!***********

JUST IN!!!!!!**********

YO FAVORITE AUSTIN POWER GIRL PREGNANT.

ILL WHERE YA AT?!?!?!?

(when does it end?) ;|
-----------------------

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thedishrag/2008/04/wedding-bells-r.html

Beyonce, Jay-Z wed! Beyonce 'bump watch' begins


Wedding bells really did ring yesterday for Beyonce and Jay-Z.

According to People.com, the small ceremony preceded Friday night's intimate reception at the groom's Tribeca loft, attended by her parents, Tina and Mathew, sis Solange, musical mates Kelly Rowlands, Michelle Williams and Beyonce's pal Gwyneth Paltrow.

Apparently, the wedding buzz began when the couple hit a Scarsdale city hall for a wedding license.

Yeah, that's usually a pretty good clue.

The marriage was certainly not a surprise. After all, the couple has been dating since 2002. But being together for 6 years in the entertainment world often means it's time for a breakup, not a marriage.

So why the secrecy? And why get hitched now?

Rumors about a possible pregnancy are starting to swirl. And,in retrospect, Beyonce has recently been dressing the way celebs do when they're trying to disguise a beginner baby bump.

First, there's the high-waisted dress, a ploy used by Jennifer Lopez early in her pregnancy. Beyonce wore a black high-waisted shirtdress (photo above, on right) to the NBA All Stars bash in New Orleans on Feb. 16.

Then there's toting a big purse like Nicole Richie did for a few weeks, and wearing a trench coat, Angelina Jolie's favorite cover-up during her first pregnancy. Beyonce did both the big bag and the trench in the photo above (on left) taken on Feb. 20 in New York.

Hey, I'm just saying ...

Maybe now is a good time to start the 'Beyonce bump watch.'
-------------------------------

jackin rumors like polow.

his next song sample simon.  




April 5, 2008 2:48 PM
 

LXA said:

SEARS TOWER said:

LXA said:

Shout out to my future father!


LOL..
--------------------------

Haha, by that I meant the dude 'ya future father'

Aye SEARS, is that you in the avi, or some Chi Town mogul/pimp?
April 5, 2008 2:52 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

alright if u say so.

TWON = SEARS TOWER

i'm still callin u TWON tho.

and that Kelly vid was hilarious!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG

he runnin drag

SMH @ u & him



@LXA

what's ur line?

whatitdolike?

foolish. LMAO

}i{



LMAO @ Jube

jackin rumors.

so she pregnant huh?

hmmm.

i gotta give up a congratz and blessings to that,

(if it's true, of course).






~BFG
April 5, 2008 3:05 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

Aye SEARS, is that you in the avi, or some Chi Town mogul/pimp?

April 5, 2008 2:52 PM

THE ONE AND ONLY
April 5, 2008 3:08 PM
 

Hoeyuno said:

Its ok B we can still chill on the lolo..haha
April 5, 2008 3:34 PM
 

LXA said:

butrflygrl said:

@LXA

what's ur line?

whatitdolike?
------------------------

Yessir, but because you havent been on for a while Im going to say "Whatitdidlike?"

Where have you been? Working on your rap album? haha
April 5, 2008 3:41 PM
 

aj22 said:

SEARS TOWER said:
@ aj22

glad @ see u back  

How was the club?

r2d2 where u at HOME BOY?


boring sacramento club like always they shut down too early, i wish they would open that club back up in marysville it used to go down live performances and they stayed open til 3 or 4 that was love........last night was a reminder why i dont go to clubs in sacramento.......men  b wack or way too agressive. thinking u going to go home wit dem , tahhhh yea right!
April 5, 2008 4:01 PM
 

aj22 said:

i dont ever ignore u LXA ....u already kno was up pimpin?
April 5, 2008 4:09 PM
 

Smallaxe said:

LXA said:
@ Smallaxe:

Is that you on both tracks? You rap and sing?...


...Ya thats me on both track homie, its all me, i rap and sing... you feelin it?
April 5, 2008 4:13 PM
 

LXA said:

aj22 said:

boring sacramento club like always they shut down too early, i wish they would open that club back up in marysville it used to go down live performances and they stayed open til 3 or 4 that was love........
-------------------------------

Stayed open until 3 or 4?.... No kidding, the clubs over here open at 3....
April 5, 2008 4:13 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

 aj22
CUM TO CHICAGO
WE'LL FIX ALL THAT
April 5, 2008 4:15 PM
 

DC CA$HVILLE said:

@AHH

I smell internet beef!!!

Peace and more hair grease,

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
April 5, 2008 4:17 PM
 

Smallaxe said:

@LXA...

Oh and rispek for checking out my page rudebwoy... thanks for your time.


.... Click on my name please ^^^^
April 5, 2008 4:19 PM
 

LXA said:

@ aj22:

Nothing much, I'll be starting work in an hour and a half. Hows your weekend going? You didnt say anything about my detective work haha, and you didnt respond to my message... I might have to add you to our 'list' lol
April 5, 2008 4:21 PM
 

LXA said:

@ Smallaxe:

Yeah man, those tracks are good! Probably one of the best myspace artists that puts their link on here! Keep up the good work dude



April 5, 2008 4:26 PM
 

aj22 said:

LXA said:
aj22 said:

boring sacramento club like always they shut down too early, i wish they would open that club back up in marysville it used to go down live performances and they stayed open til 3 or 4 that was love........
-------------------------------

Stayed open until 3 or 4?.... No kidding, the clubs over here open at 3....



yea these clubs here suck! LOL once you go to clubs other places and then come here and go, it's like wtf? why am i here again? the small towns my fam is from in Texas go harder then in sac, something wrong.......they hate on the side shows, they hate on going in n out da club, they hate on yo parkin lot pimipin', po po be in riot gear outside our clubs sometimes.......wtf lol make you think national emergency is happening.......
April 5, 2008 4:45 PM
 

aj22 said:

SEARS TOWER said:
aj22
CUM TO CHICAGO
WE'LL FIX ALL THAT
April 5, 2008 4:15 PM


i suppose to be going out there in may but it might have to be in june  though, i forgot i need to do something else in may, i dont know but i heard yall hella aggressive out that way  as far as men go, what is your take on that?
April 5, 2008 4:48 PM
 

aj22 said:

LXA said:
@ aj22:

Nothing much, I'll be starting work in an hour and a half. Hows your weekend going? You didnt say anything about my detective work haha, and you didnt respond to my message... I might have to add you to our 'list' lol


u dont have to add me to the list  : ( , certain questions i just will not answer, so i plead the 5th on all on the above hahahahaha
April 5, 2008 4:52 PM
 

TeriofLDN said:

wat up ppl?

hows ur weekend going? i been a bit M.I.A. down in MIA! lol
April 5, 2008 5:43 PM
 

LXA said:

What up TeriofLDN?

Whenever I read 'TeriofLDN' I think of those sausages, 'cherios'
April 5, 2008 6:38 PM
 

LXA said:

aj22 said:

they hate on yo parkin lot pimipin'
-----------------------------------------------

Hahaha, definitely not the place for me then
April 5, 2008 6:38 PM
 

LXA said:

"LXA for threeeeee........"
April 5, 2008 6:39 PM
 

LXA said:

LXA said:

"LXA for threeeeee........"
-----------------------------------

"Gets it!"
April 5, 2008 6:45 PM
 

LXA said:

Am I the only mudda ucker in here?
April 5, 2008 7:05 PM
 

LXA said:

I wonder how many simultaneous comments I can post
April 5, 2008 7:05 PM
 

LXA said:

LXA said:

I wonder how many simultaneous comments I can post
---------------------------------------------------------

Or 'consecutive comments', even
April 5, 2008 7:11 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

@LXA:
Today's been awesome!
Went to football practice at 10, they had a 2 hr scrimmage, so that was cool.

Party was awesome! Brittany had like 5 guys, including me and my roommate, and then 10 girls there. Afterwards we went to her place, I think 4 guys (including us 2) & 5 girls, and it was pretty fun. Actually got myself to be social for once!
And then one of Britt's friend's roommates has a sister who's a freshman, and the older sis wants to hook the sister up, so Britt's friend is gonna give her MY name! We'll have to see how that goes.

I didn't take any pics, b/c Brittany took a ton, so I'll hit you up with those when she sends 'em.

And to top it all off, ex-homegirl hasn't called yet today, so I think she finally got the message!
April 5, 2008 7:16 PM
 

LXA said:

@ LXA

Who are you talking to?
April 5, 2008 7:17 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

i suppose to be going out there in may but it might have to be in june  though, i forgot i need to do something else in may, i dont know but i heard yall hella aggressive out that way  as far as men go, what is your take on that

I aggressive! we just go get what we want.. no need to be playing games...girls don't like nice guys..
as for me
I'M A PLAYER/GO GETTER
but it's all done in a smooth way
you would love it!
lol...

@lxa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1bA1V1SCjI
April 5, 2008 7:19 PM
 

LXA said:

@ gunot_17:

Whattup?

Man sounds good!

Thats good that she hasnt called... but hey, if she calls in 3 days time, dont think "Well, Ive left her hanging for a few days, I think shes learnt her lesson, I'll answer"... No! I think shes actually the devil

haha

April 5, 2008 7:35 PM
 

LXA said:

SEARS TOWER said:

i suppose to be going out there in may but it might have to be in june  though, i forgot i need to do something else in may, i dont know but i heard yall hella aggressive out that way  as far as men go, what is your take on that

I aggressive! we just go get what we want.. no need to be playing games...girls don't like nice guys..
as for me
I'M A PLAYER/GO GETTER
but it's all done in a smooth way
you would love it!
lol...
---------------------------------------------

Hahaha of course SEARS TOWER is aggresive, look at him!! He looks like Suge Knight without the beard!

Haha kidding TWON... please dont take my lunch money
April 5, 2008 7:37 PM
 

LXA said:

@ SEARS TOWER:

Thanks for the link, shit was funny... "Man hugs...Man hugs..." lol
April 5, 2008 7:47 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

yo, i been meaning to ask y'all this since like last year:
have y'all ever seen this flick called KIDS?

classic.
classic.

-Black People

hello BFG.
April 5, 2008 8:00 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

@LXA:
haha. Nah, I aint gonna answer, no matter what.
If she had called today, I was gonna have Brit answer it, just to get the point across, so if she calls again when I got a girl there, I might have them answer it, but all I know is I am not talking to her, that's for sure.

lol, I don't think she's the devil, she just likes to mess with people, I guess. But she could be.
April 5, 2008 8:00 PM
 

doeboi5000 said:

illseed:

there's nothing wrong with wanting to know or knowing what's going on in hip-hop, but it's the speculation i dont like...i dont think people should be so thristy for information that is not willingly given to them...feel me?
April 5, 2008 8:02 PM
 

TeriofLDN said:

random comment:

i hate rap city a top ten full of crap! why do i even give these ppl a chance...........i'm out again!
April 5, 2008 8:22 PM
 

junegemini said:

@BFG

**waves** hey girl

@Teri

Yea, rap city aint been the same since big tigger left

@TWON (aka Sears Tower :(   )

that'll work

@BP1

Hey boo!! how are you
April 5, 2008 9:10 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

teriofLDN

hey lady!

how was MIA?

co-sign that random comment. LOL



@BlackPeople 1

hey there!

how r ya?

i heard of "Kids" and actually attempted to rent it once.

but it wasn't available.

a friend told me about it

and i had heard mention of it while i was in grad school 2.

so i should really be tryna catch it?

u never told me if u ever watched "What Dreams May Come"

did u?

asked u that a real long time ago.






~BFG
April 5, 2008 9:30 PM
 

LXA said:

@ butrflygrl:

Ok, cool, dont reply to me, thats cool. (Iĺl remember that).

As the anti-domestic violence commercial in New Zealand says:

"Have I got a sign on my face that says Im fucking invisible??"

Haha
April 5, 2008 9:40 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

havent heard of 'kids' caint find on youtube.

seen 'heathers?'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVGxeP-l_1g
April 5, 2008 9:46 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

LXA said:

As the anti-domestic violence commercial in New Zealand says:

"Have I got a sign on my face that says Im fucking invisible??"
-----------------------------


whoa
April 5, 2008 9:48 PM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@BFG

Wassup with you? I never saw that movie what is it about?
April 5, 2008 9:56 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

@BFG & Teri:
Whats hap'nin??!!! Hope you two are doing well.
April 5, 2008 10:04 PM
 

aj22 said:

BlackPeople 1 said:
yo, i been meaning to ask y'all this since like last year:
have y'all ever seen this flick called KIDS?

classic.
classic.

-Black People


I saw that movie when i used to be in school, and I remember seeing it and being like wtf? I don't know i think i was ignorant to how other kids got down, and now all the things that movie talked about u hear about kids doing now. that movie told the future..........
April 5, 2008 10:16 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

@LXA

(gasp) how could i 4get u?

whatitdidlike?

okay?

fa sho.

i don't want u puttin a hit out on me or nuthin,

witcha crazy ass! LOL



hey junegem!

i knew u had it in u girl!

u got BP & KHP on lock?!?!?!?!?

heard dat!

shit i can't keep up w/ 1 let alone 2! LMAO

naw, what's up with it tho?



@jube

Heathers was the shit.




~BFG
April 5, 2008 10:16 PM
 

aj22 said:

hi lxa....... i did not want u to think i was ignoring u , : )
April 5, 2008 10:17 PM
 

aj22 said:

doeboi5000 said:
illseed:

there's nothing wrong with wanting to know or knowing what's going on in hip-hop, but it's the speculation i dont like...i dont think people should be so thristy for information that is not willingly given to them...feel me


i understand , and i know that was directed to illseed but this is rumor page......and his job just like any other reporter is to report........ his is reporting the rumors...it sounds like maybe your problem is wit the ppl who want the rumors vs the ppl doing the job.
April 5, 2008 10:21 PM
 

aj22 said:

SEARS TOWER said:
i suppose to be going out there in may but it might have to be in june  though, i forgot i need to do something else in may, i dont know but i heard yall hella aggressive out that way  as far as men go, what is your take on that

I aggressive! we just go get what we want.. no need to be playing games...girls don't like nice guys..
as for me
I'M A PLAYER/GO GETTER
but it's all done in a smooth way
you would love it!
lol....

i dont know about the girls dont like nice guys part.......
i would love it huh? hmmmm........
April 5, 2008 10:24 PM
 

junegemini said:

@BFG

shhh!! girl you puttin me on blast!  lol

and im bout to reply to your PM...give me 5 minutes...u aint gone believe this


shoutouts to gunot, jube, lxa, aj22, and everybody else
April 5, 2008 10:25 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

hey Streetweyes!

how u doin?

u mean "What Dreams May Come?"

it's about life and death, i guess u could say.

and love.

heaven and hell.

and love. LOL

joy and suffering.

sanity and insanity.

but it's just real philosophical

and really beautiful aethestically.

lots of beautiful images.

u should look at it, u might like it.



@gunot

whatitdo?

i'm fine, thank u very much!

so i take it things turned a corner with ur friend.

but it actually sounds like ur good w/ it.

that's good.

happy all is going well with that.




~BFG
April 5, 2008 10:25 PM
 

LXA said:

aj22 said:

i did not want u to think i was ignoring u
-----------------------------------------------------

Hahaha dont worry, Im only kidding when I say that to ya...
April 5, 2008 10:25 PM
 

LXA said:

@ aj22:

Is 'aj' your initials? Is your name Air Jordan?
April 5, 2008 10:26 PM
 

junegemini said:

BFG

check your PM
April 5, 2008 10:34 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

jem,

i was hopin u was gon see that i pm-ed u 2nite.

cause my mind is just workin overtime right now!

i'll be checkin 4 ur reply.

in the meantime, lemme twist sumthin...



@aj22

watermelon flavor. ;)





~BFG
April 5, 2008 10:37 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

ay y'all i can't find this shit on youtube either, jube.
all i can find is little videos made by the posters
but here go the trailer. it's directed by larry clark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAMzXRiFfjk

and little video some dude made
with his own lil music.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=related&v=r2FA1hvbcyg

but yo, this movie is major y'all gotta order it and see it some kinda way. maybe it can be dowloaded. but you gots to see it.

=================
ay, june

where's that pic with the hoodie when you were smilin on the airplane?
=============
bfg, naw I still haven't seen it.
I saw like the beginnin up until the accident but I still haven't watched it all.

do you recommend it?

================

streetweyes, i member the store I was thinkin about: downtown lockerroom.

i don't know if they do online orders tho.


alright, i'll be bach (like richard. bfg did you read illusions by richard bach yet? everybody read jonathan livingston seagull)


-Black People
April 5, 2008 10:39 PM
 

LXA said:

@ Junegemini:

Whats up? How are you this fine evening of April 5th?
April 5, 2008 10:41 PM
 

LXA said:

@ junegemini:

(2008)
April 5, 2008 10:42 PM
 

aj22 said:

junegemini said:
@BFG

shhh!! girl you puttin me on blast!  lol

and im bout to reply to your PM...give me 5 minutes...u aint gone believe this


shoutouts to gunot, jube, lxa, aj22, and everybody else



hey lady, what's on next week's play list? : )




BFG............How your weekend going?
April 5, 2008 10:43 PM
 

aj22 said:

 LXA said:
@ aj22:

Is 'aj' your initials? Is your name Air Jordan

it stands for something but not my initials
April 5, 2008 10:50 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

june!

da baddest chick in da spot...
April 5, 2008 10:50 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

oh so you saw it aj?
crazy right?
=====================================
ay everbody, lemme ask y'all somethin since this shit is all up in our faces and I can at least show some respect for the forum we have.

but yo, do y'all think the jay-z beyonce thing is a symbol of black love?

or do you think it glamourizes and symbolizes trickin and opportunism?

that is what I see.
i know I'm crazy.

but I don't see that situation happening without the dough.

all the chicks say jay-z ugly but his money look real good.

and tricks don't knock no woman's hustle.

they say women wanna get paid and men wanna get laid.

that's what I see when I see them.
i don't really see black love.

i see a chick who found the ultimate meal ticket and i see a dude who "paid his way".

do chicks who look like beyonce generally wind up with guys who look like jay-z?

and then the other thing: "look like beyonce". i always complain about them cyclin the halle, beyonce, lightskin girl thing in our faces.

how does this bode for lil black girls?

"make yaself look like beyonce and you'll attract a man with lots of money like jay-z"

that's the message I see.
and that's not black love.

am I buggin out?

-Black People
April 5, 2008 10:51 PM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@BFG

It sounds interesting I'll check it out and tell you what I think.

@BP1

Peace 7
April 5, 2008 10:52 PM
 

LXA said:

butrflygrl said:

@aj22

watermelon flavor. ;)
----------------------------

Fumar puede matar
April 5, 2008 10:54 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

@junegem

i got it and replied,

u already know! LOL



@BlackPeople

i just, just sent u a message.

but also, what do u mean

u only watched up thru the accident?

and u didn't feel compelled to watch the rest?

i mos. def. recommend it.

beautiful movie, like on so many levels.

i'ma check for Kids again 2.




@aj22

hey i can't complain.

it's goin okay,

movin fairly slowly.

that's a good thing, i guess.

how bout u?





~BFG
April 5, 2008 10:56 PM
 

slj140 said:

ILLLLYYYYYYYY, miss me? Its been a long time since ive been on here! I miss you all, my new job has a sister working hard, but I cant complain, I love what I do! Boss Up, Black Peoole1 and Knowledge aka HoodProphet, Hope all is well and you are receiving GOD's blessings! Knowledge, I know about a month or so ago, tragedy hit your family in the worst way, although Im not on line to converse with you, I do keep you in my prayers! I know your a strong individual and youll get thru this!!!!!!


I miss ALL HIP HOP and the Drama and jokes in the RUMOR Section.


PS I did not 4get you GBwoy770, you are still my webhubby, lol! Everyone else, stay up and GOD bless you all!



Lena, still STRIVING FOR WEALTH!
April 5, 2008 10:58 PM
 

aj22 said:

  butrflygrl said:
jem,

i was hopin u was gon see that i pm-ed u 2nite.

cause my mind is just workin overtime right now!

i'll be checkin 4 ur reply.

in the meantime, lemme twist sumthin...



@aj22

watermelon flavor. ;)





~BFG



I kno that right : )
April 5, 2008 10:59 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

jay-z bigger than sinatra and elvis.
April 5, 2008 11:03 PM
 

LXA said:


THIS GOES OUT TO ALL THE BEAUTIFUL AHH LADIES!!!

(Well, the ones online right now anyway)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwyoH1F6RzI
April 5, 2008 11:04 PM
 

junegemini said:

@BFG

hit you right back...check EVERYTHING!!! ;)

@LXA

im good, just wished i had something (or someone) to do...boredom is a motherfucka

@aj22

LOL. I dont know yet. Any suggestions, I'm open for requests

@BP1

I still got it, is that what you wanna see, cuz you know I'll post it for you!

@jube

thanks...im da baddest chick that post thus far
ay, that has a ring to it, im really feeling that rick ross song
April 5, 2008 11:06 PM
 

junegemini said:

slj140 in the house!!

what up lady?? you've been MIA for a LONG ASS TIME! how are you?
April 5, 2008 11:10 PM
 

aj22 said:

bp1.......i dont know cant put my finger on that yet.

bfg.......chillin....not up 2 much.
April 5, 2008 11:13 PM
 

aj22 said:

 LXA said:

THIS GOES OUT TO ALL THE BEAUTIFUL AHH LADIES!!!

(Well, the ones online right now anyway)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nwyoH1F6RzI





LOL!!!! u hella stupid for real
April 5, 2008 11:14 PM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@BP1

Beyonce` could have her pick though so it may be more to it than that.
April 5, 2008 11:15 PM
 

LXA said:

@ aj22:

I PM'd you in case you dont notice. Its my picture for the calendar. lol
April 5, 2008 11:18 PM
 

LXA said:

junegemini said:

@LXA

im good, just wished i had something (or someone) to do...boredom is a motherfucka
---------------------------------

Hahaha "Or someone" haha

I think I have only been bored once in my life. Why dont you hit the town and do some damage in the clubs? Or are you really 20?
April 5, 2008 11:21 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

bp1 you see the future?!?!?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNoLHZauCZs

lol naw i'm pullin for em.




fuck bush!

April 5, 2008 11:21 PM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@BP1

Also I don't know about that light skinned thing. Some of my favorite ladies are light skinned, my mother, little sister, my god daughter. My god daughter actually catches more flack for being light skinned and smart from the little racist white girls at the private school she goes to so I don't know why people think being light skinned gets you a pass.

If anything people just assume that if you're lighter you have a I want to be white complex and that is not always true. My god daughter is like me, very knowledgeable of her history her mother and I make sure of that. She could have come from my sperm, she is militant for an eight year old. lmao
April 5, 2008 11:24 PM
 

LXA said:

junegemini said:

@aj22

LOL. I dont know yet. Any suggestions, I'm open for requests
--------------------------------------------------------

I would like to hear that song "Mysterious Vibe", by Che Fu please

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0avQZOZ_dw)
April 5, 2008 11:25 PM
 

slj140 said:

@JuneGemini-Ive been great, got rid of my deadbeat boyfriend, loving my job, painted my apartment, working out at the gym, writing more poems than usual, so I would still say, things are going GREAT for me! How are you? I see you changed your pic, for a minute I was confused, that's your shortie? When I saw my name in your comment box, I said that SLJ140 in house out loud as if I was at a show, lol! How is life treating you so far?  

I may not be on for a while again, please do me a favor and tell the peeps, I send my love. Thanx girlie!


LEna, Still Striving for Wealth!
April 5, 2008 11:26 PM
 

junegemini said:

@LXA

I'm trying to do something thats not going to cost.

Well, i was trying to do something. Its almost 12 and I just finished eating, so I got the itis and am very lazy

The only moves ima make are the ones to my bed!
April 5, 2008 11:27 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

Serena survives Jankovic rally, captures fifth Sony Ericsson title

"She was just too strong," Jankovic said. "You know how I felt, to be honest? It's like a heavyweight champion, and I'm a feather champion, you know? That's how I felt. I cannot match up against her. Just too much power for me to handle."

Williams improved to 47-5 at Key Biscayne. Her reward: $590,000 and one hot trophy.
-----------------------


uh huh thass my gurl.
April 5, 2008 11:30 PM
 

junegemini said:

@slj140

LMAO!! Girl you've been real busy.

Thats KING HIGH PIMPIN in the avi. I know you know who that is!

Everything good in da hood over here. I didnt know you were writing poetry. You going to drop some in the rumors or over in Waiting To Exhale? I've been posting raps up here lately!!

And, i'll relay the messege to all the folks! Take it easy up top!!
April 5, 2008 11:35 PM
 

SPATE Magazine All Day said:

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April 5, 2008 11:37 PM
 

junegemini said:

@aj22

I never heard that song before. Its nice. I'll see what I can do with it, not going to guarantee anything though. I usually write to more popular songs, but i'll give it a try!
April 5, 2008 11:37 PM
 

aj22 said:

junegemini........none yet , but they b cool though
April 5, 2008 11:39 PM
 

aj22 said:

junegemini........none yet , but they b cool though
April 5, 2008 11:39 PM
 

LXA said:

@ junegemini:

Sorry, I know you werent talking to me, but I asked for that song haha. No dont remake that one, yeah its funnier when you re-do a popular one. Glad you liked it though.

Making moves to your bed haha
April 5, 2008 11:41 PM
 

aj22 said:

junegemini said:
@aj22

I never heard that song before. Its nice. I'll see what I can do with it, not going to guarantee anything though. I usually write to more popular songs, but i'll give it a try!
April 5, 2008 11:37 PM




wait a min which song........das lxa put out the songs LOL! :)
April 5, 2008 11:46 PM
 

aj22 said:

LXA said:
@ aj22:

I PM'd you in case you dont notice. Its my picture for the calendar. lol
April 5, 2008 11:18 PM


u crazy! okay i will have to check that out.  
April 5, 2008 11:47 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

let me go back and check what i missed,

i was busy checkin & replyin to e-mails.


@junegem

please check urs asap! LOL


@LXA

i'm sure i'm older than u,

so ur not allowed to lecture me, youngin.

it's a lot of shit can kill us all.


@Streetweyes

yeah u should.

it's got Robin Williams, Annabella Sciorra, Cuba Gooding, Jr.

i loved that movie.



@BP

nah i haven't read Illusions yet.

i actually 4got til u said something 2day.

i'ma get it tho.

but right now,

i'm actually tryna juggle

readin 2 books at the same time right now.

never did that b4.

so thought i'd try cause i feel like neither one can wait.


as far as Jay and Bey go,

i hear exactly what ur sayin.

and i have analyzed it similarly myself from time to time.

more than a money thing tho,

i think it is an overall status thing.

feel me?

ur right, she wants security and stability,

(as all females do,

i feel like that is almost biological and innate)

but in this case,

comin from the cat w/ the most status in the game.

because i could imagine that she feels that she doesn't

deserve anything less.

he wants the same but in terms of beauty, sexuality,

(which is also biological and innate for men, i think)

and not to mention she got star quality.

he wants it from the chick with the most status in that arena.

i know he doesn't feel he deserves anything less than that.

it might just be a reflection of that male-female dynamic,

and not truly a symbol of black love.

not too sure.

nobody really knows that but them.

either way, at present, it seems complimentary for them,

at the very least.

now let's see how well that works long term....




~BFG
April 5, 2008 11:48 PM
 

junegemini said:

oh dayum, my fault aj22

i saw your name first and thought that was you

and lxa, i dont think i was going to remake that song anyway, i couldnt think of anything to write to it

but be on the lookout for something in the next week or so

i got a ghostwrite i need to start/finish before next weekend and this shit is mad hard cuz i usually dont write like this
April 5, 2008 11:53 PM
 

LXA said:

@ butrflygrl:

Haha I wasnt lecturing you! Basically, I was showing off that I knew what you were talking about when you said "Watermelon flavour". Anyway, you cant be older than me, youre in the past, and Im in the future! (wait... or does that mean that you must be older... whoa, dude)
April 6, 2008 12:02 AM
 

junegemini said:

@BFG

its a done deal ma!! i already hit you back, and sent him an email!!
April 6, 2008 12:02 AM
 

aj22 said:

junegemini said:
oh dayum, my fault aj22

i saw your name first and thought that was you

and lxa, i dont think i was going to remake that song anyway, i couldnt think of anything to write to it

but be on the lookout for something in the next week or so

i got a ghostwrite i need to start/finish before next weekend and this shit is mad hard cuz i usually dont write like this
April 5, 2008 11:53 PM




it is all good, yea that song is different......  
April 6, 2008 12:05 AM
 

aj22 said:

hey any on here watch the iron ring on bet?
April 6, 2008 12:06 AM
 

butrflygrl said:

LXA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

u crazy as hell!

that fool said:

ur so beautiful,

u could be:

a waitress

a part-time model (but keep ur other job tho)

a tree

a high class prostitute


but u hella dumb, LXA.

i really was laughin my ass off tho.

where did that come from?


@aj22

yeah i never had watermelon b4.

not bad.




~BFG
April 6, 2008 12:10 AM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@BFG

Kool I'll check it out.
April 6, 2008 12:16 AM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@BFG

You never had watermelon before? Shiiieet.

April 6, 2008 12:17 AM
 

aj22 said:

butrflygrl said:

@aj22

yeah i never had watermelon b4.

not bad.


watermelon is good and i like blueberry too
April 6, 2008 12:22 AM
 

LXA said:

@ butrflygrl:

Hahaha Im glad you watched that! Its a New Zealand 'Folk Comedy Duo Band'... they have a TV show, which is recorded in NY and is about them going from New Zealand to America to try and make it big.. haha its funny

"A...tree" haha
April 6, 2008 12:23 AM
 

LXA said:

aj22 said:

hey any on here watch the iron ring on bet?
-------------------------------------------------------

No sorry
April 6, 2008 12:24 AM
 

aj22 said:

alrighty then peace to every1 on AHH........

i will check yall out later.
April 6, 2008 12:25 AM
 

junegemini said:

Alright yall, I'm out for the night!!


Good night to all my AHH Fam. I'll touchback tomorrow!
April 6, 2008 12:26 AM
 

butrflygrl said:

@LXA

okay, well if u weren't lecturing,

then u shoulda said puff, puff, pass or sumthin! LMAO

yeah, duuuuude.

me being in the past would make me older than u!

damn u craaaazy!

boy, i tell u. SMH




@junegem

i gotcha.

i replied again too.




~BFG
April 6, 2008 12:26 AM
 

gunot_17 said:

@junegemini:
Wassup?!!! I'm doing great right now.

@BFG:
Yes it did change, no doubt bout that, and yep I have moved on. After the day I've had today, I'm beyond over it.
And as an added plus, she hasn't called today, so maybe she got the pt! If not though, I'm still not answerin, like LXA said.

@   Streetweyez:
What up mayne?

@aj22:
What's goin on, gorgeous?



Well I'm out, need to get me some sleep for once. Hope my Sunday is as great as Sat has been! Definitely one of the best days I've had in awhile.
April 6, 2008 12:30 AM
 

gunot_17 said:

Check that, I dont feel like goin to bed yet. Still gotta recover from my day. lol.

@LXA:
Oh I gotta warn you, you gonna like the pics, once I get them. When I say she got a couple fine friends, I'm not kiddin!
April 6, 2008 12:32 AM
 

LXA said:

@ aj22:

Youre shit for changing your avatar. And no, I dont mean that in a good way.


haha
April 6, 2008 12:35 AM
 

butrflygrl said:

@Streetweyes

yeah i been mainly on blueberry.

i tried a lot of them tho.

watermelon is pretty good.

if u do watch it, i mos def want to hear ur take on it.

u always got interesting perspectives on any given subject,

& lots of game/knowledge.

guess that's why they call u streetweyes, huh?



@LXA

yeah that was funny.

i could see myself laughin at them on tv.



@aj22

alright then girl,

ay i guess we was vibin on that blueberry. ;)






~BFG
April 6, 2008 12:37 AM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@GUnot

Chillin. :-)

@BFG

I'm a fruit fiend. I'm on juices hard though. I have a personal juice fridge. lol

April 6, 2008 12:43 AM
 

gunot_17 said:

@Streetweyez:
I hear you on that, same here.


I'll tell you what, I'm burnt as a muthafukka after today, but it was worth!
April 6, 2008 12:53 AM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@BP1

Right, okay yeah the Downtown Locker Room. Damn you so far away from home. lol. What you trying to get the 998 or 992s? They don't have them where you at?
April 6, 2008 12:55 AM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@GUnot

What happened today?
April 6, 2008 1:04 AM
 

LXA said:

gunot_17 said:

@LXA:
Oh I gotta warn you, you gonna like the pics, once I get them. When I say she got a couple fine friends, I'm not kiddin!
--------------------------------------------------------------

Ok, hurry
April 6, 2008 1:09 AM
 

gunot_17 said:

@Streetweyez:
Not a whole lot, just a pool party some friends threw, and then after that we went over to the apartment one of them has and it was pretty funny cuz they were drinkin and all that. But after the week I've had, something like that meant a whole lot.

@LXA:
haha, I cant do nothin bout it, its all up to when Britt puts up the pics. Probably sometime in the next few days though.
April 6, 2008 1:16 AM
 

gunot_17 said:

Aight now I'm really out. Catch y'all later.
April 6, 2008 1:28 AM
 

butrflygrl said:

@gunot

well good 4 u, man.

that's how it should be 4 u:

best days, right now.

and onward.

yup.


@Streetweyes

i was readin ur comments to BP.

i hear u 2.

i think that argument gets underestimated a lot.

that light skinned folks don't just get a pass from white folks.

it's like two sides to the issue,

cause on the one hand,

white people might feel less threatened

or even value light skin more than dark skin in society,

which would appear to put light skinned folks in a more

favorable position.

but it doesn't make them any less Black,

in the White perspective.

so they still endure the same racism and injustice.

then light skinned folks have to contend with

being criticized for being too light = not black enuff

within the Black community.

and of course, there is definitely the racism associated with

being dark skinned.

it's a no win situation really.

that's all i'm sayin with regards to that.

and basically i think it's all rooted in internalized racism on an

individual and community -----> societal level.

it's damaging to everyone involved.

even the oppressors.

i was watching some speeches on MLK, Jr 2day.

The Mountain Top

I Have A Dream, in it's entirety.

and it's a trip how much more he said in that speech

than just the portion of what our society has been fed

whenever Martin Luther King, Jr's name comes up:

I HAVE A DREAM! etc.

it got my mind to workin about just how much his image has

been stolen and reshaped to be put on display.

this was one of the most

despicable and wicked conspiracies ever.

i mean just from past to present

and still being played out before the masses.

what made me think that was by watching the entire thing,

i sat there and was able to realize what he really meant

behind wanting integration.

he said something to the effect of the White condition

and the Black condition of man

are inextricably intertwined in the U.S.

that there is no getting away from that fact.

and i realized i had never been able to understand his

perspective fully because of how it had been presented to me.

it had been manipulated.

anyway, this brought upon all kinds of thoughts about

Malcolm X,

drawing parallels and contrasting and the likes.

anyway, i meant to share that thought today

and it just revisited me again right now.


btw, idk, if we were talkin bout the same thing re: watermelon.

i meant wraps.

u meant juice?

me gusto la sandia.

i'm confused.





~BFG
April 6, 2008 1:32 AM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@GUnot

Kool, yeah some r&r is good sometimes.
April 6, 2008 1:33 AM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@BFG

There definitely is a parallel in regards to how Black people have internalized racism and the way it was imposed on us due to the racist system in America. Do you recall the concepts of Octoroon and Quadroon? They have no basis in scientific fact but they are the basis of where the racist concepts that many blacks and whites harbor in America. The octoroon was supposedly mixed or one-eighth black. The quadroon was half black.

There was definitely more to MLK than what the mainstream media portrays about him. Even down to his infidelities, they have done a good job of keeping his vices hidden. They basically created a myth and symbolized MLK. By symbolizing MLK they were able to get people to place a greater emphasis on his ideals rather than the realities of what his ideals meant in the context of the social relations that birthed them. MLK also had less of a practical impact than Marcus Garvey or W.E.B. DuBois for that matter in terms of dissecting the social dynamics of oppression and racism in American society.  
April 6, 2008 2:14 AM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@BFG

In terms of the fruit I was referring to fresh fruit and fresh fruit juices. I was saying I like fresh fruit, but I am a juice fiend. 100% fresh fruit juice. Homemade in the juicer, or 100% juice like Dole. No corn syrup and all that stuff. :-)
April 6, 2008 2:16 AM
 

Sha_Spinatra said:

I bet they just somewhere in the cut eating this shit up

Shouts to my nigga Ken_P and everybody else!!!
April 6, 2008 2:30 AM
 

butrflygrl said:

well, i've never had my ass on here this early b4.

but so here i am.

not awake by choice,

nevertheless, wide awake now tho.



@Streetweyes

gotcha on the fruit juice.

i hear u on the all natural.

i feel the same way.

that's interesting that u brought up the terms

octoroon & quadroon.

i'm very familiar w/ them, i referenced them in my thesis

last yr.

they were borrowed from the Spanish language

when the U.S. could no longer deny the fact that a mixed

(white & black) race of "Black" people

not only existed but were increasing in numbers,

during slavery.

on the census back then, the terms were sub-categories

under Black.


as far as MLK,

yeah soooooo much more to him.

i think i 1st realized that back in like '98

when i read "The Letter from Birmingham Jail."

he was deeper than i had ever even imagined.

the perfect writer, a true scholar.

i think ur exactly right in regards to

how they've symbolized him.

and it's crazy how pervasive it's been and continues to be.

even to the point that some people may identify w/ him less

due to the diluted message they've been receiving.

at the same time, i also know that this happens,

in some way or another,

with every American symbol that poses a threat.

sad commentary.

good talk.




now maybe i can try to rest my eyes again.

it's too damn early.





~BFG
April 6, 2008 7:19 AM
 

Hemi said:

BFG u might be the hottest chick in the comment game which you were wearin my chain
April 6, 2008 7:35 AM
 

HoodProphet said:

what up to the fam

Butrflygrl, Streetweyes

good convo on MLK.  I was watching a special yesterday where they were touching on his fall out with the powers that be.

It seems to be inevitable for a black man in this country who is once celebrated to eventually "fall from grace".

it's so tough being a leader these days, no wonder we don't have too many.

I've been thinking a lot lately on this new concept of leading.  More conducive to the new individualist train of thought thats rampant these days.

instead of grouping people for a movement (seemingly impossible in todays society), it might be more feasible to group there mindsets.

Dont formulate an actual tangible (easily targeted) group, but moreso like minded individuals who behave in like fashions.

No name, no title, no central office, just similar ideals:

Growth, self-awareness, compassion for others, interdependance, open mindedness, etc

Im still building this concept as I make sense of things.

What yall think?  make sense?


-HP

"everything in life makes sense, it's just up to us to make sense of it"  -me
April 6, 2008 9:26 AM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@BFG

Every social problem in America has a root cause. The public education system and the media is designed to perpetuate those problems because a truly educated and enlightened population cannot easily be controlled. This country is elitist and accessible at the same time. We have some of the best libraries in the free world, but the proper instruction as to why these institutions of knowledge are important is not emphasized enough.

I use the Library of Congress frequently, and I can normally count on my hand the number of people in there that are not professional scholars of some sort. Very few everyday citizens frequent the largest library in the world in this area. It doesn't matter if they are black, white, etc. Now the smaller libraries are faster to access and that is true, but the LOC is the holy grail of libraries. If a book exists it is there. Old rare manuscripts have been preserved in microfilm form as well.

The hatred in America is real. The animosity is real, and I actually think most black people are docile. That is why I took issue with the media criticizing Barack Obama for his speech on race as if he should just "play politics" and not focus on those "divisive issues" even though they felt like it was necessary to run that clip of Reverend Wright over and over again. If we taught our children the real history of America they would probably be angrier than they already are today. Any half-way intelligent white person knows the history of their forefathers and mothers but they want to deny it when it is convenient. Especially when you look at images like these:
http://www. withoutsanctuary.org/main.html

That is why I never hesitate to speak on what I know. What they fuck they going to do to me that they haven't already done to me (metaphorically speaking).
April 6, 2008 11:06 AM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@HP

I understand what you are saying. Are familiar with the concept of the Hive mind?
April 6, 2008 11:10 AM
 

Hemi said:

Hood Prophet thats real. the media is more twisted than ever and rest assured any leader that comes along that is trying to open the eyes of the people will be discredited very strongly.

You have a picture of Malcolm X which is a good example they tried to destroy his legacy while teaching us that the MLK method of non-violence was better. He never embraced violence but the use of it for those that use it against you(self defense).

He also was attempting to (when he was killed) take the Unisted States before the United Nations and have them tried for genocide for their mistreatment of black in America similar to what other countries were doing during that time. We don't even get that knowledge unless you search fo it. They don't teach you that.

I love MLK who was one of the most powerful leaders ever but he gets twice as much respect as Malcolm X who was equally as brilliant but much more feared ny not just white America but the black Muslims as well because he was about to divide their whole religion with truth.
April 6, 2008 11:31 AM
 

junegemini said:

Hey!!
April 6, 2008 11:32 AM
 

butrflygrl said:

@Hemi

LMAO

nice play on words w/ the Jay & Bey page and all.

and thnx.



@HoodProphet

seeing Malcolm's face reminds me of another point

i was analyzing in my mind.

as i was watchin MLK's speeches,

especially "Mountain Top,"

when u can see that the militancy that has developed,

from still a very Christian perspective tho.

u can also see that he knew that his end was approaching.

it made me realize 2 things:

1) just how much the generations after the Civil Right's

Movement really have taken for granted,

not only the struggles fought for these rights,

but also what it was like to live life prior to

and even during that time period.

we take for granted just how revolutionary MLK actions and

statements were,

i think that has to do w/ the fact that the constant

comparison between MLK & Malcolm X is always being made.

like Good vs. Evil or something, u know the two extremes.

maybe MLK's message came from a totally different context

than that of Malcolm X,

who as we all know advocated for Black Nationalism and Islam.

but still, MLK was directly confronting White America

in a REAL way,

that hadn't been done on such a large scale b4 in the U.S.

and i think that gets down played and diluted,

thru use of that symbolism technique that Streetweyes

mentioned.

2) i find it very interesting that like i said before these two

leaders represent two extremes on the pendulum.

u got MLK on the so-called "non-threatening," Christian, U.S.

integration end

and X on the apparently extremely threatening, Muslim,

Black Nationalist end.

two different belief systems but ultimately with the same goal,

the betterment of the condition of Black people in the U.S.:

equality, justice, self-sufficiency, etc.

now what tripped me out was how each one of these leaders

seemed to learn the other's message

(not necessarily from one another, idk. maybe it was.)

but they each seemed to internalize the other's message

prior to their deaths.

MLK seemed to grow more militant,

while X appeared to grow more tolerant.

it's like they always represented the ying yang imo,

but eventually began to shift to mirror their opposite.

why?

i think it's the same answer to everything:

there has to be a medium, a middle ground.

u need a combo of it all to be completely effective.

okay, so that's the conclusion i've come to.

wonder what y'all think?

and how threatening would that be, if allowed to fully develop?

i might argue more threatening

than all the militancy in the world,

because in that way so many more people would be reached.


what ur saying about leadership makes a lot of sense to me.

and i like the sound of it.

because it does appear that people could adapt to that

much easier, considering how individualistic this society is.

but i feel like that individualism contributes so greatly to the

detriment to our society tho.

like people need unity and interdependence and the ability to

identify it in the world.

and so, i wonder just how necessary and beneficial

it is to have a true leader that can symbolize (positively) an

image that the people need and want to see.

i feel like hopelessness and apathy are at

an all time high today.

people need something tangible to believe in, hold on to,

be proud of.

so how can it be both ways w/ ur theory?

i just gave u a challenge to incorporate into ur building.

keep me updated.






~BFG
April 6, 2008 12:13 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

@HoodProphet, Streetweyez, & BFG:
Lovin the convo about MLK.

@BFG:
Thanks. That's def how I'm lookin at it.
April 6, 2008 12:21 PM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@BFG

I think you have a good point in regards to how Malcolm and Martin seemed to be two sides of the same coin. I also read where Martin Luther King met with Elijah Muhammad and the FBI had Elijah's house wiretapped and in that meeting MLK basically agreed with Malcolm and the stance of the militants in private.

He just didn't think it was wise to directly confront the mainstream white America with that message. If the FBI knew what MLK secretly thought in private since they tapped him all the time they knew he had to go and they also knew he was not the docile non-violent preacher he pretended to be. That is another reason why they always promote the "I Have A Dream" MLK and not the real MLK in his totality as a man with vices like everyone else.
April 6, 2008 12:29 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

whaddup junegem!

did u ever get my reply from last night?



@Hemi

i see u got plenty to add to the convo urself.

u made some great points with ur contribution 2.

it's a trip cause that was something else

i was thinkin about w/ Malcolm X.

he is my favorite leader of all time fa sho.

and i think that's why i am doing all this thinkin on MLK,

right now.

cause at this point i can see how they painted MLK as

non-threatening, when he actually really was because they

thought they could control his image.

and today it feels that they have.

i think they portray Malcolm X as dangerous and threatening,

(despite the fact that i never heard of him actually using

any violence)

because that was a good way to once again keep the divide

and conquer tactics going,

to keep the Black community from being completely unified.

i think the facade of X being so dangerous was in some ways

unfounded.

sure he challenged the status quo,

but Black Americans tended to be

conservative Christian people back then especially,

so they were only so many people

that he was actually going to attract.

that's the same today w/ the N.O.I.

that ain't changed 2 much.

they can be perceived as threatening as a sub-culture but the

government knows they are not going to become totally

dominant in the Black community.

so even w/ that i feel like his image was just manipulated.




@Streetweyes

wow!

if i had everyday access to the Library of Congress,

i might never be seen again! LOL

but fa real tho.

and i was just goin to say in my reply to Hemi,

is that the bottom line is that we all need to be

1st hand knowledge seekers.

to learn our history(ies) because the truth is out there,

u just gotta go find it urself

and nobody is tryna just give it to you.

that's for sure.

but even if they were, the most important part is

discovering truth for one's self.

not simply being told some information,

but finding the answers to ur own questions.

i see ur doing that.

u r so on-point re: the realities of the wickedness of America.

maybe that's why they want to keep people

misinformed and ignorant.

because they are afraid of the anger that they be faced with.

but u know,

as a part of racial identity development for Black people,

according to William Cross, Jr.'s Theory of Nigrescence (1971),

that anger is a necessary part of stage 3-Immersion,

which basically refers to total immersion

into one's Black culture w/ a total and complete focus there,

while rejecting all else.

the key is to pass thru this phase and to continue developing

racially.

so anyway, i've rambled on enuff.

but u should check for my movie and tell me what u think.

and u should check for his theory next time ur at LOC

and then tell me what u think,

if u remember.

good convo.






~BFG
April 6, 2008 12:43 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

@gunot

that's what it is.

no problem.

u deserve it.



ay y'all check this vid that was dropped in WTE,

a political jawn.

hella real and funny 2!


http://allhiphop.com/forums/thread/19602272.aspx





~BFG
April 6, 2008 1:09 PM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@BFG

Good deal. I'm about to watch Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon, I recorded it on the DVR so I guess now is a better time than ever. I'll check back and see if someone picks up where we left off. Have you ever read Dr. Amos N. Wilson books? If not you should check them out.
April 6, 2008 1:26 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

junegemini
Hey!!

see i'm not so bad
April 6, 2008 1:58 PM
 

junegemini said:

@BFG

yea and I hit you back immediately. last night and today. all emails get sent to my phone, so i can answer them right away!

@TWON

YAY!!  
**cabbage patches**
April 6, 2008 2:25 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

  BlackPeople 1 said:
r.i.p. to rick and mlk.

what was the full flavor on dr. martin luther king?

i know white people liked him and they select him as their favourite black leader for us.

but i wonder why they had to kill him? did he surpass the plans they had for him and us?

or was just another way to puppeteer and pull black people's emotional strings?

turn us on.
turn us off.

raise her hopes.
crush our dreams.

lift us up.
let us down.

etc. etc.

i wonder...

-Black People
April 4, 2008 1:55 PM  
April 6, 2008 2:57 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

whaddup TWON!


@junegem

u on the go 2day?

out & about?

i just hit u back myself.



@Streetweyes

no doubt.

Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon?

that was good, haven't seen it in a loooong time.

i feel like watchin Gladiator,

meant to a couple weeks ago and got sidetracked.

maybe i will today.

and i'm mos def gon check on the books from

Dr. Amos N. Wilson.

not sure if i've read him b4.

probably not, i got a good memory.






~BFG
April 6, 2008 3:03 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

they try to dilute malcolm too.  put him on a stamp.  let spike do a major film where malcolm come back from africa all soft only show him praying in mecca & not visiting all the revolutionary african heads of state.  when he return no mention of his plans to build the non-religious oaau based on the oau...

they always revise what they cant crush.  why the vatican in rome when the italian empire murdered christ?

hp- everything can be known with the correct science/ideology.

yr idea of de-centralized, mobile, self-sustaining activity is the basis of guerilla warfare against a superior opponent.  look into mao tsetung.  he wrote the science.  look how the soviet union was able to break hitler's back in russia, even tho they lost 25 million people but never surrendered like all the 'advanced' european powers who got turned out in weeks.

its all about ideology, outlook...
April 6, 2008 3:07 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

well, hello BlackPeople. check it out, i'm goin hard on u! i got this. LOL so anyway, ur a deep man. so i see i did miss some good nuggets while i was gone. with that installment u said it all actually. and rather concisely, too, i might add. i think it's both, personally, to answer u question with my opinion. i think he did surpass their plans completely. and i also feel like it is a way to pull Black people's emotional strings, and once again manipulate their interpretation of reality. or were u just lettin me know u been there done that last week? and not really looking for an answer? LMAO well, excuuuuuuse me. cause my brain has been really focused on this subject for the last 2-3 days. had to express myself, as u so strongly advocate for.



~BFG
April 6, 2008 3:18 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

  butrflygrl said:
whaddup TWON!

you got it young PIMP
April 6, 2008 3:20 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

junegemini said:
@TWON

YAY!!  
**cabbage patches**

lol..
April 6, 2008 3:21 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

bp1 sd: but i wonder why they had to kill mlk? did he surpass the plans they had for him and us?
-----------------

yeh he did & they had too.  but not only him, the whole anti-white supremacy/anti-imperialist international movement was becoming galvanized.  

in asia, latin america, africa, even europe was upheaval.

the panthers were in force, the anti-war & student movement were changing the native view of post-ww2 usa.  the women's movement was in effect, the music & cultural rebellions.

the usa establishment was being rocked.  amiri say they was a few dance steps from revolution.

and king by '68 had been forced to return to the 'base' by the militants.  he was doing less lobbying & more direct action, focused on 'poor peoples marches', attacking the entire pretense of u.s. fake democracy.  he was in memphis to lead a garbage workers march.  he was starting to draw poor whites into the struggle.  danger!

but when he spoke on vietnam & u.s. interational affairs it was a wrap, same as malcolm.  the establishment can withstand militant attacks as long as they 'narrow' or particular.  but when they become universal & cohesive, the foundations of power erode.  
April 6, 2008 3:26 PM
 

bsneed23 said:

I say congrats to them. I know everyone thought it would never happen but, it did.
April 6, 2008 3:52 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

check amiri baraka speaking on his discussion with malcolm & king on building the united front:

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/ccbh/mxp/mlk.html
April 6, 2008 3:58 PM
 

Stuart Hallick said:

Whats the point of two weddings?? Should be one special day.
April 6, 2008 4:03 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

All About Jazz
Interview with Amiri Baraka
November 1999
http://www.allaboutjazz.com/iviews/abaraka.htm

By Lazaro Vega

GRAND RAPIDS - Saturday, November 13, 8 p.m. at Wealthy Theater, 1130 Wealthy SE, Grand Rapids, poet/dramatist/activist Amiri Baraka with Chicago trumpeter Malachi Thompson in an evening of jazz and poetry. Featuring pianist Kirk Brown, bassist Harrison Bankhead and drummer Avreeayl Ra. Presented by the Urban Institute for Contemporary Arts. Tickets are available now for $10 by calling the UICA, 616-454-7000. A workshop with Thompson and Baraka is scheduled for 4 p.m. the day of the show at the UICA, 41 Sheldon Blvd. SE, Grand Rapids. E-mail: uica@iserv.net.

Amiri Baraka is on the phone from his home in Newark, N.J. conversing with Lazaro Vega of Blue Lake Public Radio.

Lazaro Vega: I'm just really happy to see that in the last year or so you've become a much more public figure outside of academia through the recording with Hugh Ragin, 'Afternoon in Harlem' on Justin-time, that 'When Sun Ra Gets Blue,' and the recording with Malachi Thompson, ('Freebop Now,' Delmark), as well as the concert this past summer with Sonic Youth and the New York Art Quartet, and your appearance in the movie 'Bulworth.' All of these things are fantastic. It's good to have you back out again.

Amiri Baraka: Well, thank you very much. Thank you. Well, I've been teaching school for 20 years while these kids, you know my children, got through school. And that's over with, most of it, anyway. I do have more time to do other things now rather than just -- Because they had me in exile. I had to drive two hours each way to get to work. It was like an exile situation, not just a job.

LV: Where was that?

AB: I taught at The State University of New York at Stonybrook, which is in Long Island and I live in Newark, New Jersey, so that's two hours each way. That seemed to be the only job I could get for whatever reason, so, piff.

LV: Did you listen to WBGO on your commute?

AB: Yeah sure, oh yeah, absolutely: I listen to 'BGO all the time (chuckling) even though I harass them all the time. If they're playing corny music I call them up and ask them about it, certainly. They can tell you how I'd send them postcards. I used to carry postcards in my briefcase so if some stuff went down that was really corny I could stop and write a post card and send it at that moment (laughs). I wouldn't have to worry about it.

LV: Where you happy with that role in 'Bulworth'?

AB: Well, yeah, I was happy with it. I mean, obviously, being a writer I asked Warren (Beatty) when he first asked me to do that could I write my own dialogue, but you know the man with the scissors is always in charge ultimately. I got to say one thing or two things, something like that. It was o.k. It was Warren's picture, and he did what he wanted to with it and I thought it turned out pretty well given the circumstances of working in Hollywood with somebody like (Rupert) Murdoch. Although I don't think Murdoch knew about it at the beginning. (Laughs).

I thought Warren did a good job given the straightened kind of circumstances of not being absolutely free, you know what I mean? As a matter of fact that movie probably will have a great deal of influence because of the elections coming up and all that. I figure Warren must have counted on all that.

LV: What would you think of him running for political office?

AB: Warren had a press conference. I don't know. I think Warren. What he 's done so far is pretty positive. I think what Warren did, and what I was trying to do by coming out and endorsing (Bill) Bradley so early, was trying to drive the thing to the left. And I guess the powers that be got the message, because now they've got (Pat) Bucannon to opt for running for the Reform Party. So what they're trying to do is keep it from going too far to the left by putting the Nazi in it and running it back to the right a little bit.

LV: It seems like he bailed on the Republicans because he didn't think they were going the way he wanted to, either. He left the Republicans as much as the Reform Party gained him, right?

AB: See, I think that Bucannon, he's got all this disingenuous claptrap about Hitler and stuff, and the Nazis. I think that he probably believes that there's kind of righty ground swell out there, you know what I mean? Because it's true, there are more of these skinheads and Church of the Creator and Arian Nation stuff. The Republicans were always kind of an extension of them, at least the right wing Republicans were. So this is in a way a kind of continuation of all that. I think they know it, and they're trying to make use of it. (For) the same reason David Duke would come out and run, you know?

Of course there's a lot of kind of populace disaffection with the main parties for obvious reasons. So somebody like Bucannon can come out and talk some populist garbage and get a lot of people who are leaning in that kind of completely irresponsible direction. There're sections of the population of all nationalities that have that putschist, disaffected, irresponsible kind of mentality. Its just there's so many more white folks it makes it more dangerous when they go there.

LV: Things have certainly changed a lot in American politics since the 1960's when you had Martin Luther King and Malcolm X representing a completely different voice of the people.

AB: Well I think that they, the powers that be -- you have to remember that the people that have the most money finally have the most responsibility for where the body politic is, because they're the ones that have the thousands of people writing, and making movies, T.V. and radio.

If you study American history you'll see that they do that. Each time there' s a gain, that's what (E.B.) Dubois said: he called it 'The Sisyphus Syndrome.' That every time we rolled the rock up the mountain, like the Civil War thing. By the 1870's they had gotten rid of Reconstruction. By the 1890's 'separate but equal' was the law of the land. So the same thing in the '20's we rolled back up the mountain again: people like Garvey and Dubois, even the Communist Party, African Blood Brotherhood. But by the '30' s it was rolling back down. Same thing in the '50's with Martin and Malcolm.

But remember the people who run this they talk a lot about America this, America that, but remember all four of those people, Kennedy/Kennedy/King and Malcolm, were murdered. That's to show you, first of all, the kind of hypocrisy about people talking about America the great democracy; and number two that there's a body of folks in this country since the Civil War who are determined that it's not going to be a Democracy. Those people didn't die with lightening bolts from God, you know. And I defy anybody to tell me that they know the whole story of either Malcolm or John Kennedy or Robert Kennedy or King's assassinations.

LV: Right. It's never been clear. When I came to this interview I knew we would be talking about many, many different things because your life is so multi-dimensional, but one aspect of your life that deeply affected me as a young man -- I'm 39 now and I'm on the radio 30 hours a week playing jazz - was when I was growing up in Grand Rapids I had heard about East Lansing and what was going on at Michigan State with Anthony Braxton and Roscoe Mitchell living in Bath, the AACM. And I really didn't have much to go on in terms of trying to find out about the music of the Civil Rights era that preceded them, except for your book 'Black Music' and 'Blues People.' Eventually I read both of those, as well as the book by A.B. Spellman, 'Four Lives in the Bebop Business,' and it really shaped my understanding of the music of John Coltrane and Archie Shepp and even Albert Ayler.

AB: Yeah well that's good. Do you get a chance to play that now?

LV: All the time.

AB: Yeah! Well good Where are you, what state? Grand Rapids, Michigan. I see. That's great because they're taking the music on the same trip that they're taking politics (laughing) Kenny G for President!

LV: Well, trying to put the music of the AACM in perspective, and I wasn't a music major, so hearing what Roscoe was doing was a mystery to me. But understanding it as a reaction to the energy music that John Coltrane and Albert Ayler exemplified put it in context. That really helped me out to understand this advanced form of musical expression. I just owe you that.

AB: Well thank you very much. That's the writer's gig, whether he fulfills it or not, that's certainly what it is: letting people know what's going on. I think that this is an era where that work has (laughing) to be done again.

LV: Yes it is. I heard George Lewis the trombonist is writing a book on Anthony Braxton. Roscoe told me that. It's going to knock this entire current neo-conservative thing down and put Braxton up where he belongs as the Beethoven of our time.

AB: Well, I'd like to see it. George is an enormously skilled player. Yeah, I'd like to hear that. I don't always agree with the results of their musical concerns, but certainly George is one of the most skilled trombonists around.

My problem is now I think that people have to not throw away the grand sort of profundities of the tradition in search for things. I just got through talking to a musician about this. There's a treasure chest that we have rarely taken advantage of. I mean, like for instance what's his name? Wynton (Marsalis) is doing the music of Duke and the music of Bud Powell and the music of Monk. I think that's very positive. But there are a lot of people who are putting that down who are confusing what is obviously a conservative kind of approach with the idea of, you know, (whiney) 'we need a place to play, we gotta have venues, we can't have this old shit.'

Well, I don't know. The point is that you've got to make your own place to play in rugged, individualist America, apparently. I'm just happy that, you know, we can hear the music of Duke Ellington, the music of Bud Powell, the music of Charlie Mingus and so forth, done as a regular repertory staple, because that's the way it's supposed to be done.

They do in these opera houses. They're still doing Europeans in the main. You might hear every once in awhile Aaron Copeland or someone like that, Morty Feldman, rarely. But in terms of a repertory of American music, you see? And that's the same thing with all the culture. We're still laboring under a kind of colonial restriction; do you know what I'm saying?

You go to Broadway. They've changed now a little bit because we've been harassing them for the last decade, but when you go to Broadway you see most of those are English plays. Where are the great American authors? Where are the Tennessee Williams and Arthur Millers? Where are the Langston Hughes's? Where are the Lorraine Hasburys, you know what I'm saying?

But see I think the problem is those really profound works say some things about this country that, you know, the people with the money don't necessarily want to hear. They want to know why the kids in Columbine start killing people; why there are gangs in the inner cities. Those plays will tell them a lot more than those committees that they get.

LV: Yes, they will. Artists have always been social critics in America and that has been one of the troubles with it, I mean, in terms of support and visibility. It's like struggling against the same organizations that are going to fund them, or otherwise have the bread.

AB: Yeah.

LV: The two percent who have the concentration of wealth is often the group that is being criticized in, for instance, plays by Eugene O'Neil.

AB: Yeah, well, see what they'll do, they'll do O'Neil's works, to my way of thinking, after his expressionist and social realism. They start doing his works when he starts moon worshipping. They might do 'The Iceman Cometh.' But some of O'Neil's earlier plays are really profound and much more revolutionary. Something like 'The Hairy Ape.' He did a lot of plays about the sea, seamen, and those kinds of family/social situations. They don 't want to see those things anymore.

Like Tennessee, the great Tennessee Williams: there's something to be said for Tennessee being one of the most profound American playwrights. They don' t want to tackle Tennessee too tough. They just put a new play of his that was not done before, but.

The Americans, we need a repertory of music, a repertory of drama; I mean a regular American repertory that has a permanent place and also travels. We need to be able to hear the great American composers, and we need to be able to see great American theatre and film. There needs to be a regular repertory, like we're looking at the (Italian) commedia dell' arte, you know what I mean, or Comedie Francais, you know what I'm saying?

But they still think art is another form of money making rather than a form of revelation and education.

LV: Listen, I was wondering if we could talk a little bit about your discography with jazz musicians? I know there's 'The X is Black' on Mercury.

AB: 'The X is Black.' That was done in, oh, what was the name of that thing? A poetry thing that was put together and had, I think, about 50 or 60 poets in it?

LV: Wasn't it 'The U.S. of Poetry'?

AB: Yes, that's what it is.

LV: So you're just in an anthology there. Well, I have the original New York Art Quartet vinyl ESP record. I've got a copy of 'Black Dada Nilismus.'

AB: Oh, way back when, yeah. We have another record out, I guess it will be out in January called 'Reunion' of the New York Art Quintet with Reggie Workman, Milford Graves, John Tchicai and Roswell Rudd. It's a very fine record. I've just heard the tapes. Even though a guy in Jazz Times wrote he said that he hated, you know he saw the live thing we did, he said that I had managed to drown out the band. No if you can drown out Milford Graves alone (laughs). I mean that's just bizarre, man.

LV: When I heard that I remembered that Sonic Youth opened the show, right? So you were dealing with a sound system oriented towards vocalists. I mean, you probably weren't on stage in a jazz setting, wasn't it a big concert?

AB: Yes, it's a big concert hall, but I think he heard words he didn't, I'm not talking about profanity, but I think he had such ideological (pause) trauma that he thought he couldn't hear it. I mean, unless there was something actually wrong with the sound system. But there's no way in the world I can drown out musicians, that's just bizarre.

LV: I didn't pay that any mind. Because the UICA had already booked this concert you're going to do in Grand Rapids when that review came out, and I just didn't pay it any mind at all.

AB: I started to write an answer, but then I looked at the answer and the answer was so unforgiving and relentlessly, I said well, really, maybe I ought to just let him slide, you know?

LV: That's right, because the record will speak for you.

AB: Yeah, that's what I thought. That's essentially what I was saying. I don't know why he couldn't hear it, but it's probably because he didn't appreciate what I was saying. These people are very sly. He says, 'He comes on like Chuck D.' Now what is it? Is that because people finally accused Chuck D. of having some anti-social, even anti-Semitic kind of ideas? Is that why you're going to try to infer that somehow? That's to me so low. If you don't like this stuff tell us why you don't like it, don't say, (mocking) 'He came on like Chuck D.' What does that mean? That's an association in somebody's mind.

LV: That allusion escapes me.

AB: Chuck D. was with Public Enemy. There was a big flap about him doing some anti-Semitic stuff. So I thought this guy by saying 'Like Chuck D.' was trying to imply some stuff without actually coming out so somebody can see that he's just lying.

LV: The thing is if he's going to come out and say critically what he really means, he has to get his writing chops together if he's going to talk to you.

AB: Yeah.

LV: Because it's going to be Ali and Forman, I mean you guys are going to go at it, and you better be ready for that. You really have to sharpen your thoughts to the point you really want to make, because if it's at all vague, you're just going to eat him alive.

AB: (Laughs). I just, yeah (piff) the guy's got nothing else to do. It was that bad lead, I mean (laughs).

But the whole question of words and music, 'word music' I call it, it's I think going to come into it's own in the mainstream and like anything that comes into the mainstream some of it will be co-opted as soon as it appears. That's what happens.

There's a big gathering this weekend in Newark, down at the New Jersey Performing Arts Center, and then our own group, Kimako's Blues People. So there's going to be hundreds of poets in Newark this weekend, and hundreds of musicians. So it should be pretty valuable.

I think I'm working with David Murray on Sunday with that group called Fo Deux. We made a record about three years ago called 'Revue' where he uses a lot of the African musicians and stuff.

LV: That's on Justin-time. I know you also did a record with Murray in the 1980's on India Navigation, right?

AB: Right, way back, right. But the thing called Fo Deux is a great record, by the way. Even though I'm on it. But I would say that's one of David's great achievements to mix African American and African genres of music together like that and still make it come out a whole. I thought it was a wondrous accomplishment. I'm just sorry that it didn't get as big in the U.S.

I have to say it's probably my fault it didn't get as big in the U.S. as it got in Europe. In Europe the record was a number one seller for months. But here, you know, because I was talking about slavery in the stuff that I did. And everybody knows there is no such thing in America as slavery, so they get a little fragile when you talk about it (laughs).

LV: Was there profanity on it?

AB: No, there's nothing. It's just a question of slavery. It's just a question of slavery. See, the once you find out that, you know, its like Jesse Jackson running. Although he's since sort of defected from reality. But when he was running and people said well they're just doing that because he was black. Well that might have something to do with it, but mainly it was because of the political lines that he was taking. Do you know what I'm saying? That they were left of the establishment; therefore he could have been a white Anglo Saxon Protestant, as we will soon see with Bill Bradley. But if you take certain positions, aye, that's - Or you could be Bruce Springsteen talking about born in the U.S.A. There are certain positions that the establishment is not comfortable with.

LV: I'm looking forward to hearing that. I also know you cut a record for Enja that's only available in Europe that's coming my way, too.

AB: Well I wish you'd get me one, hu-huh. 'Real Song' you're talking about. But you see those records like that they put them out, the distribution is somewhat limited and a minute later they're gone. So it's very frustrating here. But the New York Art Quintet record is coming out.

The Hugh Ragin record ('An Afternoon In Harlem') I liked a great deal.

LV: Your poem to Sun Ra is interesting. When you're going on saying Sun Ra 's name over and over it's as if you're trying to evoke everything about Sun Ra by just saying his name.

AB: That's right, right. Well that's the Ancients. The ancient Africans thought that you say the name and the spirit will appear. That's what I was doing; I was trying to call his spirit up. And, well, I'm not going to speak on that any further because if I start saying I did then they want to lock me up.

LV: Well, I loved Ra. I saw Ra in Detroit, East Lansing, Chicago and Ypsilanti, probably six or seven times in all.

AB: Sun Ra was a great to me. Really, all these people leaving out the world suddenly and together is very disconcerting.

LV: Sun Ra was the epitome of big band tradition.

AB: Yes, absolutely, absolutely. He was just in tune with the space age, that's all. He definitely was a traditionalist. I think in his last years he played a lot more of traditional big band music, in his own inimitable way. But still.

LV: I heard him play 'Queer Notions' by Fletcher Henderson.

AB: Oh yeah, well he used to be Fletcher Henderson's back-up pianist. That's how old Sun Ra is. Sun Ra's older than dirt, man. So when he says he played with Fletcher Henderson then you know how old he was. He was an old guy.

That book that just came out by John Szwed is a very enlightening book if you're interested. 'Space is the Place: The Lives and Times of Sun Ra' it's called. It's a very informing book.

I think there are two books out on Sun Ra now. One from a guy in Germany, Art LeBrechts I think his name is, and then the one by Szwed who's at, where is he, Harvard or Yale, one of those places?

But it is good to see that there is some kind of more incisive and analytical criticism and analysis of the work.

Rather than, 'I like it, I don't like it.' Or the 'gee-wiz' brand of criticism, you know.

LV: Sun Ra, Cecil Taylor and Ornette Coleman came on the scene at a time when music reached a point where anything was possible.

AB: Well you see the problem with American music is that the most inventive and creative aspect of it is always the most oppressed, and so it never gets to be as ubiquitous, say, as Kenny G. It's never heard as much.

In the real world Duke Ellington has set the tone for American music for a long, long time, 50 years, anyway. Too often our young players don't have the benefit of understanding that, or knowing that. Many do. But if you'll check somebody like Sun Ra, you'll hear a lot of his solos come directly out of Duke (especially) a lot of those band pieces.

People as thought as way-out as Monk, for instance, a lot of these people are coming straight out of Duke Ellington.

To the extent we can appreciate Duke Ellington we can certainly appreciate all of the kind of vectors from his gigantic body of works.

LV: Sure, Cecil Taylor as a pianist originally was in some ways out of stride.

AB: Sure, oh, absolutely.

LV: He did a song called 'Wallering' for Fats Waller.

AB: Yeah. No, no, no, no: it's impossible. See, that's the point. When I say great people in anything, it means there're some people that it's impossible for you to ignore. In other words, it's impossible for you to ignore Duke Ellington and really be in the 20th Century. You might be walking around talking about, 'Oh, I like Monk! I like Monk!' But if you dig Monk, you'll find Monk is Duke Ellington.

So it's a question of how do we absorb the resources of our culture? In America it's funny because a lot of people don't even understand that their culture is African, European and Native. You know what I mean? It's broader than the establishment would have it be, obviously. To really absorb it you have to understand that you are all of it. And a lot of people don't because of racism, or people are not well educated, don't know much about the world. This is defiantly a culture that's deep and rich, and richer and deeper than people even understand.

If you have Africa and Latin America and Europe to draw on, I mean effortlessly, as your psychological and historical kind of cultural development and you don't know that, well, then you'll settle for Kenny G. (Laughs). You'll settle for something you don't have to, I'll tell you.

LV: Or you just won't do the work to find out what's underneath that.

AB: That's right because it's deep; it's very deep. But look here I'm going to have to run, I'm sorry, but I've got to get out of here right now.

LV: Oh, that's too bad. I was hoping we could talk a little bit about some of the poems you'll be doing with Malachi Thompson.

AB: Oh, o.k. go ahead. I've just got a box load of stuff to do that I'm not doing and I need to be doing it. Go ahead.

LV: I understand. Malachi mentioned that when you're performing, and I guess you've been performing together since 1983 or so, that you have a repertoire of poems about certain jazz musicians, Billie Holiday, --

AB: Oh yeah. As a matter of fact I want to bring out a book on each one of them called 'The Book of Monk,' 'The Book of Duke,' 'The Book of 'Trane,' who else? I've got 'The Book of Miles.' And then I've written individual poems, a suite of poems to Charlie Parker, and Bud Powell. I've written a whole reconstruction of Willie 'The Lion' Smith's life. I've done something for Sarah Vaughn. And then I've done a theatre piece for Bessie Smith, Ethel Waters, Billie Holiday, Ella Fitzgerald, Sarah Vaughn and Abby Lincoln together, a theatre piece for those singers.

So I've been working on stuff, a lot of stuff on the musical. We just put together a new band. I've been working with bands for a long, long time, but we have a new band now. It's all part of what I do. The music is an organic part of my whole approach to literature and art.
April 6, 2008 4:04 PM
 

fizzroy said:

@ blackpeople 1

did you know that martin luther king told harry belafonte...he feared that he was intergrating his people into a burning house...peep it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiEKS5iPtDs&feature=related

this is one of the reasons i say...let these niggas burn...you wasting your time explaining and tryin to guide grown people....
focus on the young...give that knowledge to a child that aint been exposed to this shit fully...they can still be molded...these niggas are wicked...

ill say...9 out of 10 grown people are weak and wicked...these niggas are cursed...like tupac said they breeding envy...and hate...they dont know who or what they are...so confusion sets in..

you now how many prophets came and tried to save these people...and where did it get them...if they couldnt save them what make you think anyone of us can...let em burn...

but keep building and focusing on you and yourz...ayo check out dick gregory giving it up....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgSymvZLpOw&feature=related
April 6, 2008 4:06 PM
 

jubilee.shine said:

ha dick gregory the man.  saw him speak at a south central church a few years back..

tell you what he know alot about stayin healthy.
April 6, 2008 5:22 PM
 

ya future father said:

@ everybody
what up ahh fam?
April 6, 2008 5:31 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

@YFF:
What up mayne?
Nothin much here, just enjoyin what has been an awesome weekend.
April 6, 2008 5:51 PM
 

LXA said:

What it do what it is?
April 6, 2008 6:19 PM
 

LXA said:

@ g-g-g-g-gunot_17:

How was your Sunday? Did you continue the good-times streak?

@ my future father:

Whats going on out there?
April 6, 2008 6:20 PM
 

ya future father said:

@ gunot
what makes it an awesome weekend? got some booty? lol

@ LXA
what up homie ?
April 6, 2008 6:24 PM
 

SEARS TOWER said:

April 6, 2008 6:37 PM
 

LXA said:

@ ya future father:

Nothing much going on over here... just logged into AHH, I was scrolling up to read everyones comments from today, but I got halfway  through scrolling up on jubilee.shines monster comment and I got too tired
April 6, 2008 6:41 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

@LXA:
lol, nah, had to do homework today, but watched some basketball and stuff, it was fun.
Britt put the pics up, so I'll email some of em to you soon.
Anybody else that wants to see em, hit up the email:
gunot_17@yahoo.com

@YFF:
haha, not quite, but I'm workin on it.
And I may have finally broken out of that proverbial shell of shyness after the party yesterday.
April 6, 2008 6:43 PM
 

ya future father said:

@ LXA
i do that sometimes 2 but after the fist 50 or so i scroll straight down

@ gunot
proverbial shell of shyness huh lol don't be scurred haha
April 6, 2008 6:54 PM
 

LXA said:

@ SEARS TOWER:

That was horrible... I couldnt stop watching though


@ gunot_17:

Yeah man, cool, my email account is ready when you are. I see that the Mavs managed to come back and beat the Suns... I wanted those mofos to lose. My nuggas, the Denver Nuggets, must make it to the playoffs!
April 6, 2008 6:55 PM
 

junegemini said:

@BFG

Yea was on the go today! Think i'm done now though. I'll be up here for a while. And I do mean a while!  lol
April 6, 2008 7:23 PM
 

FREEZE NITTI said:

DAM IS THIS ALL HIPHOP OR TMZ LAY OFF THA E CHANNEL RUMORS!!!! ON A SIDE NOTE GUESS JIGGA WAS LYEING WHEN HE SAY I DONT WIFE EM I ONE NIGHTS EM LOL FUCKIN LAME!!
April 6, 2008 7:50 PM
 

LXA said:

LOL @ FREEZE NITTI...

"LAY OFF THA E CHANNEL RUMORS!!!!"

....this is the rumours section, my dude
April 6, 2008 7:54 PM
 

junegemini said:

@TWON

If you don't mind me asking, why did you change your name anyway? Did the mods delete your account or something?
April 6, 2008 8:02 PM
 

Hemi said:

whats up folks see some usuals in the house
April 6, 2008 8:25 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

@YFF:
haha, I know mayne, I know.

@LXA:
Your nuggas, huh? Dont worry bout that, right now it looks like it's gonna be the Warriors wont make it.
And there's like 15 pics, so I got a better idea....
Go to my myspace, and click on the profile pic. All my pics are public now, so go to the Pool party album, and they're all there.
April 6, 2008 8:28 PM
 

jjgreenis said:

what up AHH peeps....
April 6, 2008 8:35 PM
 

junegemini said:

hey jj with the green eyes!
April 6, 2008 8:48 PM
 

LXA said:

JJGREENIS IN THE HOUSE
April 6, 2008 8:53 PM
 

jjgreenis said:

wassup June... I gotta change the avatar first thing in the morning...lol... That's the Ice pack I'm I'm holding up to the nogin.. damn that hurt..
April 6, 2008 9:02 PM
 

jjgreenis said:

WhatitdoLike LXA?
April 6, 2008 9:06 PM
 

LXA said:

@ jjgreenis:

Nothing much over here man, just working.

Damn you really cut your head on a shelf? With blood?

Hey what are you doing online? Is your wife out? Haha kidding

How was your weekend?
April 6, 2008 9:10 PM
 

LXA said:

@ jjgreenis:

Nothing much over here man, just working.

Damn you really cut your head on a shelf? With blood?

Hey what are you doing online? Is your wife out? Haha kidding

How was your weekend?
April 6, 2008 9:11 PM
 

LXA said:

@ gunot_17:

Man, I cant seem to see your shit, it keeps saying that your profile is private. I even requested my password and everything, and still cant get in! Im about to throw a Kanye up in this little mother
April 6, 2008 9:13 PM
 

junegemini said:

@jjgreenis

What happened? Somebody hit you upside your head?
April 6, 2008 9:18 PM
 

jjgreenis said:

@ June
Nah I busted my head friday @ work... Blood and everything... It was a really small cut but it hurt like hell cutting my forehead like that.... I'm allright.. It'll probably leave a lil scar though...

@ LXA
She's Braiding her hair.. So I have free time.. lmao.. Nah I can get on whenever i Want.. But I usually choose to spend time with the Kids... I have 3 of them..
April 6, 2008 9:28 PM
 

ya future father said:

do u see the pics for the biggie movie those actors(no offense to them) lokk wack to play the parts, if we can have the brady bunch remade with almost perfect similiar people then y can't we do it for biggie?
April 6, 2008 9:32 PM
 

ya future father said:

@ june
what up cuz?
April 6, 2008 9:33 PM
 

jjgreenis said:

What up future??

Aye who's the Avi??
April 6, 2008 9:40 PM
 

LXA said:

@ jjgreenis:

You have 3? I thought it was 2... must be 2 daughters and a son right? How old are they?
April 6, 2008 9:43 PM
 

ya future father said:

@ jj
what it do yo, i'm just chillin at work getting paid to talk to u diffrent toilet same shit

my avi is someone i respect in the rap game:Ghostface Killa, Pretty Tone, whatever he calls himself lol
April 6, 2008 9:44 PM
 

LXA said:

my future father said:

do u see the pics for the biggie movie those actors(no offense to them) lokk wack to play the parts, if we can have the brady bunch remade with almost perfect similiar people then y can't we do it for biggie?
--------------------------------

Yeah man, I had to google those mofos, and they dont look shit all like the real characters... Couldnt Puffy play himself?... And couldnt GawgaBwoy770 from here play 2pac? haha
April 6, 2008 9:45 PM
 

jjgreenis said:

@ LXA yeah I have 3 my oldest is 12(step son) then my Daughter is 4 and lil Jay is 1...

@ future

I figuered it was either Ghostface or Rome... Remember him???
April 6, 2008 9:53 PM
 

Hemi said:

@LXA

GawgaBwoy770 could surely play Pac all the way LOL
April 6, 2008 9:55 PM
 

junegemini said:

@jj with the green eyes

Sorry to hear that pimpin.

@ya future baby daddy

what up!! everything good in my hood
April 6, 2008 10:15 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

ay yall.

jube, you a funny muvafucka. i see you threw ya pic up so the chicks won't sleep.

that shit funny.

but on the real i hear you about the universal message thing. that shit is dangerous. especially the incorporation of disenfranchised, poor white folks.

=============
streetweyes, i'm tryna get the 996s and the reflective 1700s.

yo i'm a long way from home like a muvafucka. I live at the beach. the pacific. so the next stop from here is china.

i'm bout as far away as I can get without gettin in the ocean. but yo, buss it out:

out here they were chucks.
but they also rock these jawns called Vans.
all flavors of them. laces no laces.
no bullshit.

i be like yo, y'all jokin right?
then some of the latino bruva rock the cortez nikes.
you ever seen them?

the fucked up thing is they got some fly tennis shoe stores out here on the boutique tip like at fred segal or over in the larchmont or fairfax section.

but the rich white people be on them shits. and the lil pharrell type dudes. so they don't be rockin em right.

i swear to god, i ain't seen nobody wit no nike boots on the whole time i been here.
that's cool though. it's hotter here.

maybe the vans and slippers shit is something that's comfortable. i ont know.
=======================
fizz, lemme peep the links. good lookin. you know what they used to say, right?

"target the young and the old will come outta shame." member that?

i dunno. but that shit is right.

but sometimes i feel compelled to speak to my peers about certain shit.

but it's funny, cuz friday, I was like I'm thinkin of a masterplan like yz, and I came up with something  that I was gon reveal startin tomorrow aimed at all the younger gods.

you'll see.
================

ay, if I ont be back in like 3 hours, i'll catch y'all tomorrow.

pitneace.

-Blitnack Pitneople
April 6, 2008 10:17 PM
 

LXA said:

@ Hemi:

Whats up? Haha yeah all he needs is the 'Thug Life' tattoo
April 6, 2008 10:17 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

bfg, you know the battle is on...
you got me by one.
April 6, 2008 10:18 PM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

this is hardcore man. i had to re-read it.

i can't even respond. yet.

this shit is hardcore.
lemme think...
"weak and wicked", grafted.

damn. i gotta think.

naw cuz then that means I'm just missin the point.

i ont know but look...
================================
ill say...9 out of 10 grown people are weak and wicked...these niggas are cursed...like tupac said they breeding envy...and hate...they dont know who or what they are...so confusion sets in..

you now how many prophets came and tried to save these people...and where did it get them...if they couldnt save them what make you think anyone of us can...let em burn...

April 6, 2008 10:25 PM
 

butrflygrl said:

whaddup folks?



jjgreenis makes an appearance outside of work hours!

that's somethin new! LOL

what's up?



junegem,

i'm bout to get back at u,

in a min.




~BFG
April 6, 2008 10:27 PM
 

LXA said:

butrflygrl said:

jjgreenis makes an appearance outside of work hours!

that's somethin new! LOL

what's up?
-----------------------------------

Yes but he has gone again.... his wife must have caught him using the computer.... Im not entirely sure that he did bump his head "on a shelf"....
April 6, 2008 10:32 PM
 

workn4betterday said:

what up, just taking a second to check in...

BFG how was the weekend
April 6, 2008 10:54 PM
 

LXA said:

Wheres my main woman aj2-squared?
April 6, 2008 10:57 PM
 

gunot_17 said:

@LXA:
lol, I'll set the shit to public for you.
And I was wonderin the same about aj22 aka your better half. lol
April 6, 2008 11:10 PM
 

ya future father said:

@ LXA
u a fool for saying Gawga could play Pac put a rag on that nig and watch out haha

@ jj
who the hell is Rome ?

@ june
nothing just doin me u know u should probably do body slam in the wte since u write a lot

@ bfg
what it is ?
April 6, 2008 11:23 PM
 

junegemini said:

@BFG

I'za waiting!!  lol

@ya future baby daddy

I dont know about all that fam. We'll see. I'm really not much of a writer, this just has been something fun for me to do.
April 6, 2008 11:46 PM
 

LXA said:

Daaaamn Nuggets, in high school you was the man, Nuggets
April 7, 2008 12:10 AM
 

butrflygrl said:

DAMMIT!

i just lost my whole comment!

so to summarize:

whaddup YFF,

LXA (u still crazy as ever),

Workn (u wouldn't believe it!! how was urs?)



@junegem

i just got u back.



@jube

that amiri baraka interview was good,

i ain't gon lie and said i read the whole thing tho.



@BP

yeah, i got a head start! LOL

i feel u on those clips fizzroy (good look'n out) threw up.

i watched 'em earlier and was like, "oooooh!"

had to watch 'em again w/ a friend.

good shit.




alright y'all.


~BFG
April 7, 2008 12:25 AM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@BP1

I see. You on the left west coast. Yeah that's culture shock right there. Totally different styling from the East. I saw them Vans, that's the skateboard look. Not really into all that but to each is own. You know real DC cats from the New Balance. The youngins nowadays though are coming back into our shit. I had to check some youngins in the tight jeans and rainbow color Nike's and shit. Fuck that fruity shit, walking around looking like a pack of starburst on skittles. I don't know where they getting that colorful fruity shit from. I keep my little brother out of all that rainbow shit he aint with all that.
April 7, 2008 12:54 AM
 

LXA said:

'Vans' is new to you?... Ive been wearing those shoes since about 1999
April 7, 2008 1:25 AM
 

LXA said:

LOL @ people hating on other peoples style... you want everyone to wear the same clothes?...
April 7, 2008 1:28 AM
 

MaryJanesHusband said:

waddup LXA?

Check this lil dude out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMhsbnt1Wc4

April 7, 2008 1:32 AM
 

aj22 said:

hey anyone seen the news talking about hilary clinton and how she fabricated yet another story about a pregnant lady dying? she has now decided not to tell that story any more in her speeches
April 7, 2008 1:37 AM
 

LXA said:

@ MaryJanesHusband:

Yeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh I love that little guy!!!! (homo)
April 7, 2008 1:47 AM
 

LXA said:

@ aj22:

Where have you been!? I was looking everywhere for you! I just noticed that you "got back to me" (wink wink, nudge nudge), so I'll get on it
April 7, 2008 1:49 AM
 

aj22 said:

 LXA said:
@ aj22:

Where have you been!? I was looking everywhere for you! I just noticed that you "got back to me" (wink wink, nudge nudge), so I'll get on it
April 7, 2008 1:49 AM  


wow did i forget to check in? lol
April 7, 2008 2:00 AM
 

LXA said:

@ aj2-squared:

Yes! I added you to the elbow list, and then took you off again
April 7, 2008 2:06 AM
 

aj22 said:

LXA said:
@ aj2-squared:

Yes! I added you to the elbow list, and then took you off again
April 7, 2008 2:06 AM


I am sorry, i will check in next time lol , what up to?
April 7, 2008 2:24 AM
 

LXA said:

@ aj2-squared:

I just finished work. Are you still there? Or are you sleeping? Well I guess if youre sleeping you wont reply, so if you dont reply then I know youre sleeping
April 7, 2008 3:11 AM
 

jnard_01 said:

who cares if they got married. What I wanna know is if he is gonna straight disrespect his good artists like he did a Def Jam. Bringing good music my arse!!
April 7, 2008 3:12 AM
 

BlackPeople 1 said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBzudcB3iDw&feature=related

another classic movie, yall.
definitely a classic scene.

-Black People
April 7, 2008 3:39 AM
 

LXA said:

April 7, 2008 3:48 AM
 

MaryJanesHusband said:

I'm warming up over here........FIRST!!! 1st, furst, 1st BIATCH, fizzurst, fungalow, figgalirst, PAYYYAOW!!!
April 7, 2008 4:48 AM
 

MoneyMonstersInc said:

congrats to Jay and B, black love that's whats up.

Marc Dollarz
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April 7, 2008 6:21 AM
 

MoneyMonstersInc said:

congrats to Jay and B, black love that's whats up.

Marc Dollarz
GET YOUR MONEY RIGHT, JOIN THE LEGAL HUSTLER"S CLUB
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April 7, 2008 6:21 AM
 

MaryJanesHusband said:



Hedgehog used in non-lethal Attack

   
WELLINGTON, New Zealand (AP) -- A New Zealand man has been accused of assault with a prickly weapon -- a hedgehog.

Police allege that William Singalargh, 27, picked up the hedgehog and threw it at a 15-year-old boy in the North Island east coast town of Whakatane on February 9.

"It hit the victim in the leg, causing a large, red welt and several puncture marks," police Senior Sgt. Bruce Jenkins said Monday. The teen did not need medical treatment, he added.

Police arrested Singalargh shortly after the incident, and charged him with assault with a weapon -- "namely the hedgehog," Jenkins said.

At a hearing in Whakatane District Court on February 14, Singalargh's lawyer said he intended to plead innocent, The Herald on Sunday newspaper reported. The case is due to resume on April 17. If convicted, he faces up to five years in prison, Jenkins said.

"People often get charged with assault for throwing things at other people," Jenkins said, although he admitted the use of a hedgehog as a weapon was "uncommon."

It was unclear if he also would face animal cruelty charges. The Herald said the hedgehog was dead when it was collected as evidence, but did not know if it was dead or alive at the time of the alleged attack.

The Herald reported Singalargh's arrest under the headline "Raise your hands and step away from the hedgehog." E-mail to a friend

April 7, 2008 6:44 AM
 

MaryJanesHusband said:

Did anyone notice on that pic of Aretha, Mariah and Ashanti that Mariah's nipple is playin peek-a-boo? I C U
April 7, 2008 7:33 AM
 

Streetweyez Sayles said:

@LXA

Nah aint nobody hating on anyone's style, I was talking about distinction in style. I said I don't like the tight jeans rainbow color shit. I also was talking about distinct DC shit, if you aint from here then you won't know what I'm talking about in regards to the New Balance. As far as the gay ass youngins running around yeah I check their little asses since they want lto act like they hustlers, but they stand on the block looking like a bag of skittles. Now the object is to AVOID detection not stand out like you been jogging in the gay parade all day.
April 7, 2008 7:50 AM
 

gunot_17 said:

@aj22:
haha, Hillary got it again! Damn, that's funny!
April 7, 2008 9:01 AM
 

QBoogieSSP said:

April 7, 2008 9:27 PM
 

jaruletheinc said:

yo be is a beatiful chick. damn that she didnt make up with irv gotti hehe

http://www.murderinc-online.com
April 9, 2008 5:55 AM
 

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