Hip-Hop Rumors: Soulja Girl Returns! Def Jam's New Pres, Usher's New Son!

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Jay*Chris — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:57:14 GMT

Shout out to Charles Hamilton- That Mixtape is Dope as fuck!!

solijah boy is wack--

Berg chain on tour... lol whats new---

That Kanye track is cool-- his cd is real different but he is one of my favorite artist so i support 100%

As for joe budden--no comment"

(SIDE BAR) Shout out to Sarah Palin- lets see them tities bitch

Hip Hop What's Good'

*Chicago's one and only*

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sniff-N-wesum — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 10:58:23 GMT

ok!

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Haughville — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:04:55 GMT

whats good hip hoppas?!
just shouting out to the regular suspects....keep ya heads up.
happy FRIDAY!

if you see a hater, point'em out!
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Tommy K. — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:08:45 GMT

Top 10!

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T-ROC — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:22:42 GMT

What's good AHH folks!!!

It's Thursday, work week is almost over.

Rumors..blah blah blah Joe buddens getting besides himself.

Is Diddy sparing his audience or going broke? (which one) LOL

Shout out to Flatbush, Brooklyn

Alright y'all enjoy your day.

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Water Ur Seeds — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:26:24 GMT

Wsuuuuup

Shellz U taken Buddens words outta context, He didnt say 'Pac wasnt A good rapper' smh

Xzibit is dope as hell, I would class Him as A conscious rapper

Peace to everyone

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blackrome — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:26:45 GMT

Street Points for taking Lil Berg's Chain. 0.

How do you get points for robbing kids.

You should lose points. Fags.

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Haughville — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:32:51 GMT

say...did i make anybody check their calendars? lol

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JayWill64 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:38:01 GMT

11th

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JayWill64 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:40:07 GMT

Jasiri X is the only artists i see thats really puttin out positive vibes or at least attempting to make the hip hop community aware of the important issues that are going wrong in the world today. Yeah illseed, gon start up that label homie. This guy deserves a shot. at least an indie label.

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FRESH-SHAUN — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:41:04 GMT

That's why I always been a Bad Boy fan cuz Diddiy goes with the times. THANK YOU Diddy for not flaunting in this time of recession unlike Akon who makes songs like I'm So Paid while cats like me are walking 20 miles to the unemployment office! lol Talk about kicking a man while he's down lol

Bush pardoning Mike Vick is a good look. not a great look but a good look cuz mike vick did it and i got 3 dogs at home. but all that time mike vick doing, i don't think he deserves.

Finally Janet admits she preggers! lol I don't know why she was scary to say that 2 weeks ago-lol-paparazzi paranoia i guess

That drug smuggler with the wooden coat hangers is genius! (sarcasm) lol

Thank you for posting that crap that Joe Buddens said about Pac! I was so ticked off when he said that Pac wasn't a good rapper! I wrote a blog about it lol Here's what I said and the name of the blog is F*** Joe Buttons aka Buddens:

Yo this man joe buddens is ignorant!!!!! He said Pac wasn't the best rapper or lyricist?!?!? He obvoiusly hasn't done his REAL hip hop research before Pac got up with Digital Underground he was PHENOMENAL and he learned how to channel his lyrics into exactly what he wanted to say and that came with the more education he got from the bs world! This is why Joe buddens could never be my favorite cuz he would not say what he said about Pac if he were alive.

I feel you KC!!!

I'm so disturbed by Crow Buddens.

He lucky I don't curse no more but it's some cats out there who ain't got no problem throwing some derogatory words at his well deserved ignorant butt!!

Joe Budden just mad cuz he don't know how to get money like Pac 50 and all the other icons.....

Katt Williams will have to come back to comedy eventually! That's his home lol

HAHAH I know how Jeezy feels! I get like that when I rocked to my tracks lol

AHH!! Holla at me on myspace.com.freshshaun if you want to network

Gone

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OGKush151 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 11:49:12 GMT

yung burgs chain has showed up to more venus than most queens bridge rappers (notorious for not showing up in boston for events) !!!!!!

.....joc gon feel like an ass when that words "hater" and "swagga" are over with......goes to show whos a fuckin sheep.....

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Dugg_Funnie214 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:17:44 GMT

Dat Nigga A Brody was touchin all up on Beys Booty and feelin on her face...I Dont Kno bout dat shit HOV...

ALSO

TI EXPOSED

http://www.datpiff.com/Da_Chicken_Shack_Exposes_Ti_Rick_Ross.v682.html

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hiphopcritic — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:20:44 GMT

yea buddy chi-town stand up

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Cocaine.dreams — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:23:27 GMT

fresh-shaun why the fcuk you hating on buddens pac wasnt the best rapper lyrically listen to his interview . instead of ranting on blogs listen to what the man has to say then analyze it because your sounding real like a real SIMPLE MFER WITH THOSE KIND OF COMMENTS

no idea what janet see's in jd I swear all these divas now a days are falling for beetle juice mah fawckas

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DownDownBabie — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:24:27 GMT

CONGRATS JD!!! U DID IT!!!! NOW START BUILDIN THAT DUNGEON AND HAV FOUR MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

LMAO TI SHOWS HIS ASS!!!

http://www.datpiff.com/Da_Chicken_Shack_Exposes_Ti_Rick_Ross.v682.html

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Ludakristiger — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:29:01 GMT

What's up people? Rumors r kinda wack 2day.
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Water Ur Seeds — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:30:29 GMT

Yo I never thought Diddy rocked much bling anyway... I know He was flashy popin Cris and bein extravagant on yachts and that, but bling wise Him, Jayand Eminem and them never got stupid amounts of ice like Soulja Toy and these other dickheads

That JX tune was big

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BBall_star33 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:45:32 GMT

Um what did Joey say so wrong? The nigga said "Pac wasn't the best rapper with actually rhyming words(wordplay), but he was still able to piant a picture which made him 1 of the best that ever did it." Where did he disrespect Pac in that statement? That was real talk.

Wow, Kent St. students exposed themselves for being lame as fuck. I hope those arent the kings of the campus, lol.

Janet and JD having a baby...lets hope the baby looks like old school Janet.

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SNAPPA — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:52:45 GMT

SMH

How the hell u gonna quote Joe Breezy and show a video proving your quote to be a GOTTDAMM lie?!?!

That desperate for drama?

Buddens never once in that interview said
"Tupac was not a good rapper…." .

STEP YO GOSSIP GAME UP!!!!

Illseed u cosign that shit?

SMH.

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SNAPPA — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:53:48 GMT

Oh and Adrien Brody..........

Not a good look Hov.

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MEME_SLIM — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:55:19 GMT

Morning all

*Souja Girl having done this before need to keep her ass on meds or go to a padded cell. If she would have yelled at my grandmother........

*Xzibit has always been a real dude to me. Not jaded by the game. I wish him well.

*George Bush was a subject of mine offline. I am confused as to how the Congress can let him get through 2 terms (especially the 2nd) w/o any talk of impeachment but Clinton went down for getting his piece sucked. WTF? Clinton hurt his family. Bush illegally entered a country and killed their leader. This fool created a war that has killed thousands, but he is coasting? Boooo.

*Janet J and JD is a kid I would like to see. She is at risk age. I just hope the baby is healthy.

*Jesse Jackson Jr............I am so damn tired of Jr. and Sr. Daddy has proven to be shady, why not him.

*Katt Williams just wanted college money? College go up every year. Not like I was a huge fan but the only parts he gets are pimp part and "Wildin Out" is off the air. That leaves music and he not a great rapper nor is the market great anymore.

*WOW. Bow Wow and Weezy at a game together. Double date? They both have gay circumstances around them. Hmmm.

Okay.
Love. :)

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VAgogetta — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:56:28 GMT

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HP (philly-VA connection: A.I./76'ers, Re-Up Gang)

LT Brown

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meme slim

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knowl

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MEME_SLIM — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:58:35 GMT

That's not a coo for Adrian Brody. I know for a FACT her breath is angry.

Love.

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Focused10210 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:59:02 GMT

Yo, that vid on Joe Budden was titled WRONG!!!

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MEME_SLIM — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:59:32 GMT

Morning VA

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MEME_SLIM — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:03:50 GMT

Hmmm. I need to read my own comments before I post. Lol. I meant "date" for Bow and
Weezy.

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DrDahnDahlas — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:04:42 GMT

Jasari X needs a deal behind him ASAP...

Skillz gonna burn the tracks EVERYTIME from here on out...

Dat Lil' Wayne & Bow Wow pic looks kinda strange, don't you think ???

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO@ YUNG BERG'S CHIZZZAIN.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BIG UPS TO CARMELO'S 33 POINTS IN ONE QUARTER...

THUMBS DOWN TO LEBRON JAMES DOING THE KARL MALONE DUNK....KARL MALONE IS THE BIGGEST UNCLE TOM EVER IN SPORTS...

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basedboy08 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:04:59 GMT

Yo Illseed Im still LMAO @ that Soulja Boy Vid!! I haven't checked out Charles Hamilton yet but I think I will.
Still pissed @ XXL for not puttin DRAKE on the cover instead of Ace Hood!!!

Co-Sign Diddy/times r a lil rough..lol!

At first I wasnt wit that Pop Champagne but it grew on me.

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VAgogetta — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:09:11 GMT

mornin' meme.

it's about 65 degrees and raining here.

wassup wit u? hope verything is good.

gotta represent someone from work in court today.

holla at cha and yall later

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theaak — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:14:08 GMT

JayWill64:

I don't know about the only artist, But Jasiri X is killing that shit ... I don't if I want to hear him do a different type of song, though ... Just This week with

JOE BUDDENS .... THANK YOU:

Finally, someone, other than myself, has the balls to say it ... Tupac was no where near a great lyricist

Don't get me wrong, he had a lot of other great qualities as an artist ... and classic songs ... but when we bust it down line for line ... he wasn't able to manipulate the English language the way other great rappers could

Janet Jackson:
Janet and JD will have an UGLY baby ... lol ok lets hope not, for the sake of the kid

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MEME_SLIM — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:14:36 GMT

VAgogetta said:
mornin' meme.

it's about 65 degrees and raining here.

wassup wit u? hope verything is good.

gotta represent someone from work in court today.

holla at cha and yall later
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33 and no rain. Lol. I'm good. I'm going now to warm the Chrysler up. Burrrrrrrr. They have me bringing out the down coat. Stay warm, hon.

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BornSupreamAli — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:22:00 GMT

WHUT UP, Joey Buddens hit on the nail wit PAC, as for the rest of this stuff on here who cares. I am glad that Khalid did not get the job tho who wants to hear the same FUCKING BEAT ova every song he talks more than DJ Clue on a song........Joe Buddens, JadaKisss, Camillionaire, Joel Ortiz, and Bishop Lamont...... someone get these guys on an album together.......

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theaak — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:23:05 GMT

Ok ... last time I believe what a caption says, without listening to the shit, first ...

Fuck it, I'll say it

Tupac wasn't that great of a rapper

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MEME_SLIM — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:35:21 GMT

This is another discussion that is geating old on this site because there will always bea seperation.

What constitutes "the greatest"? Really? Some on here will talk about lyrics, some will say songs as a whole.........

Tupac was the greatest to some not just because his song was hot but because of how he connected with people through his music. People think Big is the greatest because of lyrics. true his word play was good but he never sold me on him. I didn't feel him. Jay Z..........no feeling, but his lyrically is crazy. Em have lyrics and the ability to touch you. Some artist just have that. I boils down to what YOU are looking for in a song. What YOU like. Who's the greatest is just a personal opinion.

Love.

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bigikeva — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:39:10 GMT

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Davy da prince — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:39:56 GMT

LMAO @ the Tent guys Illseed is a fool 4 that one!!!!

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dreamy j — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:42:06 GMT

isn't that banks behind wyane & bow wow?

Joe buddens needs to chill, he's talkin more than Burg.

Quest needs to chill too. He knows Jim and Ron cant do it again.

Peace to all the AHH fam.

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:44:05 GMT

Morning:

meme - don't come looking for me unless you have a plate
knowl - wha't good my brother
jiggagirl (pops from friday) cutie pie, cutie pie....bang,bang!
kapp- missed you yesterday, hope all is good
dgrudge - she can't read, i type all kinds of stuff (LH)
rude- my picks...hou,ny(g),atl,wash,indy,sd,gb,az,car,bal,
killa - i see you ike(lol)
cat - annie mae eat the cake!
hot - relax, relate, release
qb- i got you send the cd
brink - peep your joint "nasty: on youtube, u really r memphis
seanjohn - dr phil for a brother
sears - what's good professor
lioness - hey lady, do you sleep? (lol)
tupac - prayers go out
doe - what up kid
davy - put a new joint of your chuck up (lol)
518 - see you had to gring yesterday - better slacking today
va - what's good with you
sexy - come through and bless us with your presence
illseed - thanks, good look with thug....get at Z-Ro

Alright off to read the rumors

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Davy da prince — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:45:44 GMT

@ Tha Homies

Knowl
Ricky
Quisee
Jus rude
Killa
Kappa
Doe
Water ur seeds
Willy

Wat up?

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Illmatic T — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:48:07 GMT

CONGRATZ JANET

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Davy da prince — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:50:31 GMT

@ Tha Ladies

Sexy
Lioness
Meme
LT BROWN
Classy
Hiphopisluv
Hotnuknowit

Kissez and Luv.

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sevendollabeats — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:58:10 GMT

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Davy da prince — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:01:50 GMT

Yung Bergs chain more famous than Yung Berg.

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Freecode — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:05:24 GMT

Young Bergs Chain was made at http://www.traxnyc.com

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MEME_SLIM — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:11:45 GMT

Z_ro
hell, I don't even know where you are. Lol. Did you answer me on where you were?

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MEME_SLIM — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:13:51 GMT

Good morning Davy.

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Just_Rude — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:13:52 GMT

what's good ahh...

the crew
Knowl
Meme_slim
Quiseebaby
Lionesse23
Seanjohn81
AJ22
Willie_Killem
Zro_coldest
Davy da Prince
VAgogetta
Hood Prophet
LTBrown
Missdallastx214
Tommy K.
---------------------------------------------
zro... i might use your picks so thanks for putting it out there..

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rooster_cogburn — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:15:54 GMT

Shellz, u worse than Fox News. Budden didnt say Pac wasnt a good rapper you ass hat, he said "he wasnt the best rapper, as far as.....". And I agree with the nigga. Just cuz he dont feel the way ya'll feel, dont crucify dude. Get ya journalism skills up.

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Knowl — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:20:39 GMT

MEME_SLIM said:
Morning all

*George Bush was a subject of mine offline. I am confused as to how the Congress can let him get through 2 terms (especially the 2nd) w/o any talk of impeachment but Clinton went down for getting his piece sucked. WTF? Clinton hurt his family. Bush illegally entered a country and killed their leader. This fool created a war that has killed thousands, but he is coasting? Boooo.
---------------------------
True. This Devil broke International Law that states that you can't remove a head of state. W. Didn't care about that. He will go down as one of the worst presidents since Herbert Hoover

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Knowl — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:22:09 GMT

MEME_SLIM said:
This is another discussion that is geating old on this site because there will always bea seperation.

What constitutes "the greatest"? Really? Some on here will talk about lyrics, some will say songs as a whole.........

Tupac was the greatest to some not just because his song was hot but because of how he connected with people through his music. People think Big is the greatest because of lyrics. true his word play was good but he never sold me on him. I didn't feel him. Jay Z..........no feeling, but his lyrically is crazy. Em have lyrics and the ability to touch you. Some artist just have that. I boils down to what YOU are looking for in a song. What YOU like. Who's the greatest is just a personal opinion.
-----------------------------
True. I like what NaS said in 'ETHER' "Ain't no Best"

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MEME_SLIM — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:22:52 GMT

Morning Rude

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:25:52 GMT

Haughville said:
say...did i make anybody check their calendars? lol
************************************************
I don't know bout them but I was over here like "huh?" LOL

Hey fam, I am alot better today.....don't een like the way I was off my L7 but anyhoo...I'm bout to read the rumors & hit ya'll back up...

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jubilee.shine — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:26:15 GMT

2pac ambitionz az a ridah

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ea2JCIsv3iU

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theaak — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:27:01 GMT

MEME_SLIM said:

of course, one's taste in any art form is subjective, but within these times, well, at least, to me, (sorry, couldn't help myself)

People act like its blasphemy not to have believed Pac was great ... look at the "top 5" responses, people's exact words "if you don't have Pac in your top, then I can't take you seriously"

From personal experience, people try to argue my head off ... every time I mention my opinion ... Actually, to tell you the truth, I don't like Tupac period ... I never really appreciated him other than a couple songs

That's besides the point, Its almost an unwritten rule that people have to like Tupac, these days ... and if you didn't, then your crazy ... Niggas that I know for a fact didn't really check for him while he was alive ... they all of a sudden, front like they're tupac fans

No coast beef, but, you'll hear people from Cali say they think BIG was whack or overrated (for lack of a better example) ... but if A east coast dude says that He didn't listen to Pac or wasn't that impressed, its an uproar

Maybe, I'm wrong, but I think there's a secret society of people that don't like Pac (the public figure) as much as I don't and I'm the only one voicing that opinion

Remember back when Hiphop was the shit in the 90's? ... THat's all niggas did was argue WHO"S THE GREATES MC (biggie, Jay-Z, or Nas ... sorry couldn't help myself)

I think that's what's wrong with music is the fans ... They don't have healthy arguements over who had the best verse on a song or who is better lyrically overall ...

I remember every song had that arguement, no matter who was on it and the artist really tried to spit the best ... Now, niggas don't really give a fuck

DJ Khaled puts 982734159238932751897 guys on one cut and who cares? I don't even think the artist care

Anyway, I think that's the key to saving hiphop ... make real fans care again ... I deviate far from my point though

to sum up

Tupac isn't in my top 10

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cadoo boy — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:27:27 GMT

I am happy for JD and JJ! Ron Browz needs to show again that he isnt a autotune producer. He has done other things so a breakout will happen sooner than later.

Diddy Should have done that long time ago but i didnt think he was flashy with the bling anyway!

Wayne and Bow Wow at the Heat game. Wow Bow got cheese for days. Dont hate, Appreciate!

X da the Z, needs to come out again. That boy is a beast. I am still jamming his last album. I workout to it and it keeps you hype after a 3miler.

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Doe A. Fella — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:27:33 GMT

Whuts goin down AHH?

Shout Outs:

Quiseebaby (MI repper imported to WI)

BlackSean (Reppin 313)

Ricky (The blogger formely known as Z-Ro)

Davy (His girl look like a girl i use to work wit, SMH why didn't I smash)

Lionesse (Need you to screen some of these women I know, make sure they sports game is tight first)

VAgogetta (We both share a passion for somethin, that's all i'm gonna say)

Kappagem (Respect his gangster)

BFG (My Yay Area playa potna)

Killa (The cat I know will tell me the real when I ask, how do it smoke?)

Hotnuknowit (Bun B Hotnsheknowit)

BP1 (Do this cat got a PHD, cause he be schoolin cats round here)

Knowl (This dudes blood type is BX+)

MeMe (The woman I'll call when Ms. Right Now's recipe don't come out right)

Willy Kill'em (I thought I had some too drunk and high stories)

SearsTower (The boy deep in the game, he might own the land the SearsTower sittin on)

Adope (Reppin that other side of Yay)

518p (Top 5 AHH comedy blogger dead or alive)

Ken P (The David Copperfield of the post)

DGrudge (Definitely reapin the benefits of dat Maui Wowee, cause the posts have me on my back.)

And to any others I missed, I'll get u next time. This my first shout outs, can't expect greatness the first time out can you?

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Knowl — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:30:19 GMT

What it do to:
Meme_Moon,AJ22, Juanita, Kappa, True Scientist, Likarish, C_A_K, LTbrown, ms_espn,bx_nena, VAgogetta, Boss up, Cresent, hotnuknowit, ZRO_Coldest,Kalibur, adopefemalemc, jadoremoii , Hood Prophet,WEST COAST EMT, Trini Emperess, Mu$h, Chocolate1, Jrucker, Willy, Hemi, Tupacfan, MYOPINION, Black Sean, GUNOT_17, J Dungy, Msdallas214, Sofi, Blaqman99, Killa2thaB, B*braze, Just_Rude, Lady Drama, Illseed, Davy Da Prince,Lionesse23, MD-2-BX VIA I95, TaylorMade_TaylorBranded, DGRUDGE ,NYReppin716to718, HipHopIS Love, Quiseebaby, Bkrepper, Nex Gin, MaryJanesHusband & Tommy K (LAST!)

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:33:15 GMT

MEME_SLIM said:
Z_ro
hell, I don't even know where you are. Lol. Did you answer me on where you were?

--------------------------------------
Atascocita, Tx...few miles outside houston

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MEME_SLIM — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:41:36 GMT

@theaak

Dear, he doesn't have to be which was MY point. Joe buddens likes or dislikes won't change a damn thing in my head and nor will anyone elses views because only I know what I like. I just think it waste of time. that was all I said and it wasn't directed to you. Just a general comment.

@Doe

Lolololol. Noticed my love for food, did ya? I got you.

Love.

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lamarrion — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:43:25 GMT

Good morning AHH
I think more ppl are gonna be brought down by Gov Blago
Janet and JD = E.T.
@MEME_SLIM
George Bush should be brought up on war crimes.
And don't forget how he mishandled Hurricane Katrina
Be Blessed ya'll
In a min

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Knowl — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:46:39 GMT

@ Doe You might be right. I have soca in my blood and my walking pattern is my BX+ I doubt anyone reps the Bronx harder than I do.

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:47:02 GMT

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keeping it real

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longest bloggers

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Knowl — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:47:45 GMT

ZRO_Coldest said:
MEME_SLIM said:
Z_ro
hell, I don't even know where you are. Lol. Did you answer me on where you were?

--------------------------------------
Atascocita, Tx...few miles outside houston
---------------------------
You done did it now........ lol

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amBIGuous1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:51:45 GMT

x to the z is so underrated. Not many rappers can get free banging dre beats b/c dre has respect for them.

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:52:08 GMT

Refreshin

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MEME_SLIM — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:52:18 GMT

@Z_ro
I'll meet you at Golden Corral. Lol. I'm down for a buffet breakfast.

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Quiseebaby — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:54:15 GMT

Next Gin ( Whats good bro? )
Z-Ro ( What it does?)
Cresent (Grind hard shine harder)
LT Brown ( Been giving toothaches since 400BC)
Knowl ( My partner n starting a rumors crime....DUCK NIGGA!!!)
Davy ( Who dat in da Avi???)
Savy ( The Katt Williams...minus the "Apologize bitches! Im Katt Williams. Enjoy yaself")
SeanJohn81 ( aka Fuck Enyce Diddy!)
Willey Killem ( He beat another case!)
NYGA
Kappa ( The peoples jeweler)
C_A_K ( AHH Big Mama)
Mu$h ( D.J. Mu$h da Great. " IM DA GREAT!!!!" )
NYReppin ( Whats poppin on the East? )
HipHopIsLove (Lost and not found)
HotnUknowit (NAP town!)
Killa2thaB (I would get a bike too if I wasnt so damn clumsy! )
Meme Slim ( The Moon aka "Damn Im hungry!"....)
Muzikisinmyheart ( beautyisinyourapperance )
MissDallas ( Aka Shout me out or die!!!)
BlackSean ( MI reppin!)
Illseed
HoodP
Lionesse ( Chef Rey!)
Just Rude
Ken P
MAK
Doe.E.Fella ( u DAMN RIGHT!! Ima Repper baabbbby!!!!!! )
Ken MAsters

@ Joe B
I say that ALL THE TIME!! Rhyme for Rhyme I dont even think about Pac in my top rappers. I like Pac for the passion and HIS personality. He would be the rapper I would wanna talk to maybe more then any other one but he was not the best rapper by a long shot.

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MEME_SLIM — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:54:43 GMT

Knowl said:
ZRO_Coldest said:
MEME_SLIM said:
Z_ro
hell, I don't even know where you are. Lol. Did you answer me on where you were?

--------------------------------------
Atascocita, Tx...few miles outside houston
---------------------------
You done did it now........ lol
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Don't let him know I'm crazy!! Lol. Nah. Food. I'm about food.

Love.

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:55:00 GMT

Bless up, bless up AHH PEEPS!!!

@trick, trick - can someone please tell me why dude isn't arrested on robbery charges? Im saying, they rocking dudes chain on shows, come on now, classic case of "come and arrest me please" Not sure why Berg didn't go at them legally for the chain, then handle that bizness of being robbed.

@Dj Khaled not signing with Def Jam South AMEN!!!!, maybe it's just me but i cant' stand dude. WE DA BEST all darn day on everything is not a good look. :-)

@Soulja girl - Pray she stays on her meds. I never found that situation funny at all. Maybe i'm bias to mental health.

@Xibit - that's my dude, wish him continued success in 09. Everyone should reevalute their cipher. If they aren't helping or adding to your life, CUT THEM OUT!!!

@Janet/JD - when i actually see her walking with a belly i'll believe it. Those gossip mags are suspect.

@Jeezy jamming to his own song - BIG UP BRINK TV. i see you. :-)

one

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mu$h da great — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:55:39 GMT

@jiggagirl,aj22,savere,seanjohn,zro-coldest,ken p,kappagem,g-unot,blacksean, jhamal, msespn (i miss your avi lol, where you been @?) - was up wi it?

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:55:48 GMT

Wake up to yet anotha Tupac arguement. By the way, who is the fuckin editor on here? Had me ready to go on a fuck Joe Budden rampage for nuthin. Thats how shit get started nigga. Was U dat nigga in high school? The type to tell one nigga what anotha nigga said? Then the shit dont even be true! Be havin niggaz fightin and shit. Booooo! like ol' gull be sayin.

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:56:12 GMT

Shouts back at all, preciate em...

I am glad Soulja Girl is taking her meds...I have witnessed first hand how drastic a person can be without their meds....my aunt has her episodes where sometimes she will chase her self up & down the stairs, start giving away money like she's Mrs. Gates... (funny but true...) & she is a very religious person so it can happen to anybody....

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Just_Rude — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:57:56 GMT

MEME_SLIM said:
Morning Rude
-----------------------
morning Slim... what's for breakfast ....

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TRU C-WALKA — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 14:59:14 GMT

1rst JOEY BUDDENS stop hoppin up on all these youtube type videos niccaz an go make a hit, u do alot of talking but no album selling so what are u tryin 2 prove in the rap world. JANET an JD who give a shit he's another one who need 2 get bacc 2 making bangin traccz. TRICC TRICC is da big homie cuzz, but that chain shit c'mon cuzz we got the point. TUPAC talked real shit and is still selling albums, enuff said about his stats!! BOW WOW an WEEZY ha!ha! well the world wants gangsta's so there yall go!! thatz why our culture dying now out here on the WESTCOAST cuz of marcs lyke them!! WESTCOAST ALL DAY!!

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aj22 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:00:09 GMT

peace to illseed for doing his thang---------------

what up

just rude
me me /knowl

-------hood p---------------

yesterday u mention u came to cali a few months back--------------

what part of cali did you visit? and when? and why you didnt hit ya folks up?--------------------------------

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:00:26 GMT

Uhm.....First I wanna thank my mama cause without her I wouldn't have won this award, my co-winners cause this fam is full of Nice Times, uh Zro aka Nutt for 'nominatin me, I wanna thank my boo for always makin sure I'm cool, Illseed cause he's that dude....LOL j/p but right on.....

Thats a cool lil list I think I will put some noms in my next shout out....ya'll know how the end of the year "best of..." lists are about to come out.....

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theaak — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:01:02 GMT

ok MEME_SLIM

I didn't think you directed your comment at me, nor was I really arguing with you ... I was just referencing what you said as the vehicle with which to get my point across

... you never know, though ... someone else's opinion could sway you towards something that you didn't know you would like, or, by the same token, sway you away from something that you didn't know you would dislike ... As for waste of time, that's what this site is for, right? especially this page

BUT

point taken ... I digress

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Doe A. Fella — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:03:42 GMT

Yo that sayin, "curiosity killed the cat" is some true shit.

Tell me why my curious ass on the strength of today's rumors jus went and looked at dis shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czR1yxKfhUc

Man some of dat shit lookin real gay, like da booty doo. WTF
Shit look like male pussy poppin.

Who the fuck said Hip Hop/Rap songs had to come with a damn matching dance.

Oh damn, maybe this is who started that shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bo7oLHPAwY

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Davy da prince — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:04:29 GMT

MEME_SLIM said:
Good morning Davy.
---------------------------------------
Morning. How u and ur lil one doin luv?

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:06:20 GMT

Doe A. Fella said:
Lionesse (Need you to screen some of these women I know, make sure they sports game is tight first)
-----------------------------------------------I got you. I'll def tell her to keep it quiet during the game, tear you off something real quick at the half, have the huge plate of food ready BEFORE THE 1ST game starts. And the most important, if you can't sit and enjoy the game with me, GET OUT OR DON'T COME OVER!!!!! hows that?

those are my rules. lmbo.

@zro - hey hey, funny you ask, i'm an insomniac. got the pills to prove it. lol. i usually be up watching replays of games or espn, but since i seen folks actually be on here that time of night i decided to come on. You seen what happened right? lh, It's TNT thursday, ain't tryign that mess tonight.

No one wanted to talk to me. :-( I keep telling you, i gets no love. lol

and you know i'm mad at you for not picking my Pats. you are crazy if you think OAK is beating us. that's an upset pick. but not a 1st pick. I'm mad at you until 12pm. lol.

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SeanJohn81 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:06:23 GMT

Good morning fam. I have been really busy at work so I haven't been able to kick it wit yall but I'm takin it easy today like Sunday mornings. Let me get my read on...

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MEME_SLIM — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:07:25 GMT

lamarrion said:
Good morning AHH
I think more ppl are gonna be brought down by Gov Blago
Janet and JD = E.T.
@MEME_SLIM
George Bush should be brought up on war crimes.
And don't forget how he mishandled Hurricane Katrina
Be Blessed ya'll
In a min
==============================
I didn't. I am in Texas. We got a surge of victims. They need to take him down now. Right before he thinks he is going to leave scott free. First thing Obama needs to do in his new term is hold Bush accountable.

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:10:08 GMT

Mu$h tha Mickey-Fickey Great....whad up witcha?

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ARKANSAS_HOV — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:14:35 GMT

birds of a feather lmao two niggas that been rich since they
were 13 trying to be hard

and joe budden didn't say pac can't he was giving him props

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:14:42 GMT

lionesse23 said:
Doe A. Fella said:
Lionesse (Need you to screen some of these women I know, make sure they sports game is tight first)
-----------------------------------------------I got you. I'll def tell her to keep it quiet during the game, tear you off something real quick at the half, have the huge plate of food ready BEFORE THE 1ST game starts. And the most important, if you can't sit and enjoy the game with me, GET OUT OR DON'T COME OVER!!!!! hows that?
************************************************
Hol up.....I gotta add to the list that:
She is not to text, call or even THINK about you while the game is on....
If she is caught in your rival teams jersey? Automatic awesome-jawsome on site! (hey she should have known better...)
Lastly, she must never refer to a male player as "cute"....Monkeys, kids & hearts are cute....this here is my game we talkinbout....

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imatiq5 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:15:22 GMT

trey songz remixed jazmine sullivan's song....bust ya windows.
it's on his mixtape "ladies choice 3".

-Is(Smile)-

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:16:32 GMT

@justrude - don't listen to Zro trust me on this, he's using emotion on his 1st pick lol. I like Houston myself but there's no way they're beating the Titans.

my 1st sheet picks are as follows.

CHI, WAS, MIA, ATL, SEA, NYJ, INDY, SD, GNB, TEN, ARZ, CAR, BAL, NE(PATRIOTS ALL DAY ) NYG, PHI

now i'll admit i'm torn with the sea/stl game. but i do 2 or 3 sheets so i still have a chance, i'm a switch on 2 of mine. tell me what you ended up doing. you can email if you don't want to post on here. :-)

@meme- hey hey lady, i had to go with Bal this wk, love Pit, but remember i told you about my ongoing affair with Ray Lewis. lmbo. i sent you a note.

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dwrite — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:18:33 GMT

HIP HOP, U THE LUV OF MY LIFE!!

Peace to all artists of any form and creative people. Im still tryna understand why hip hop artists have to be boxed in all the time like they shouldnt be able to express themselves however they see fit. Every person goes through a wide range of daily ups and downs so by the time its time to record who knows whats about to come out, hopefully something worth keeping. The general public seems to slay a artist for not staying in the little lines you wanna paint them in. I think thats why Big, Pac and, Nas have and always will be my favorites because you get it all with them funny moments, mad moments, love and hate. Thats reality, the good and the bad, not a whole album of preaching or a whole album of killing. Regardless of what you want them to be its still a person behind the mic

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MEME_SLIM — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:20:47 GMT

Just_Rude said:
MEME_SLIM said:
Morning Rude
-----------------------
morning Slim... what's for breakfast ....
=============================
Turkey bacon, eggs, and waffles
*************************************
Davy da prince said:
MEME_SLIM said:
Good morning Davy.
---------------------------------------
Morning. How u and ur lil one doin luv?
==========================
We're good. You and yours?
**************************************
@theaak
Yep. It's a hiphop site. Just meant with some sujects on this site it's like beating a dead horse.

@AJ
Morning, ma'am

@Z_ro
I saw what you said and meant to say thank you but was on the phone. Awwww. Thanks. I would like to tank you for acknowledging me at all and anyone who is about discussion and not arguing. Love to all.

@Killa2thaB
Diggin ya 'BOOOOOOOOO'

I'm out (unless I see to address real quick)
Love.

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Just_Rude — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:21:55 GMT

L23
my bad on not getting back to you last night ... my picks still aren't done and i know i have to give the in tonight or else i automaticly take an L for tonight game...

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:22:22 GMT

BIG UP!!!!

Just rude
Hot - congratulations on the win lady!!!! :-)
seanjohn81 - they working you heh?
killa
mush - you know i gave up right? Crennel is out of there. I feel for dude. it wasn't just him. :-(
aj22
Davy - waa gwan?

one

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Cresent City Connektor — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:22:23 GMT

Sup fam!!! Just peeking in for a sec..may bounce back thru later

I see ya Knowl and Meme_Slim

Peace to Illseed and Shelz: yall are still doin it up well, I see!!!!

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:25:52 GMT

Oh yeah Illseed, I think that was fucked up, how you left the lil' niggaz names off! If ?uestlove co-signed em and you commentin on his piece, whats the prob wit lettin the niggaz get some shine? Oh I know, its cause they from Tx. (insert sound of ol gull Boooin' here). Their name is HSIC. I havent even heard em. I just think that it was messed up, that you said everythang from the original article cept the name.(more booin here)

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MEME_SLIM — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:28:18 GMT

Awww. Hey Cres. How are you? Miss seeing your avi.
Be blessed, hon.

Love.

@Board
Lol @ my typos. Eating ang typing don't mix.

Love.

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Quiseebaby — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:28:19 GMT

dwrite said:
HIP HOP, U THE LUV OF MY LIFE!!

Peace to all artists of any form and creative people. Im still tryna understand why hip hop artists have to be boxed in all the time like they shouldnt be able to express themselves however they see fit. Every person goes through a wide range of daily ups and downs so by the time its time to record who knows whats about to come out, hopefully something worth keeping. The general public seems to slay a artist for not staying in the little lines you wanna paint them in. I think thats why Big, Pac and, Nas have and always will be my favorites because you get it all with them funny moments, mad moments, love and hate. Thats reality, the good and the bad, not a whole album of preaching or a whole album of killing. Regardless of what you want them to be its still a person behind the mic
******************

I agree.... Thats why coming to u soon will be.....ME NIGGA!!!!!!! Reality rap for yo ass (no homo of course)

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:28:35 GMT

@ dwrite : U have permission to re-post that comment 5 times.(salute: take notes)

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aj22 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:28:41 GMT

peace to lionesse23 , what up?

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Just_Rude — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:28:47 GMT

lionesse23 said:
@justrude - don't listen to Zro trust me on this, he's using emotion on his 1st pick lol. I like Houston myself but there's no way they're beating the Titans.

my 1st sheet picks are as follows.

CHI, WAS, MIA, ATL, SEA, NYJ, INDY, SD, GNB, TEN, ARZ, CAR, BAL, NE(PATRIOTS ALL DAY ) NYG, PHI
--------------------------------------------------------
You really think atl has a chance against tampa.. i mean r. barber and them been playing there a@@ off the last couple of weeks (with the exception of last week)

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Doe A. Fella — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:29:28 GMT

hotnuknowit said:
lionesse23 said:
Doe A. Fella said:
Lionesse (Need you to screen some of these women I know, make sure they sports game is tight first)
-----------------------------------------------I got you. I'll def tell her to keep it quiet during the game, tear you off something real quick at the half, have the huge plate of food ready BEFORE THE 1ST game starts. And the most important, if you can't sit and enjoy the game with me, GET OUT OR DON'T COME OVER!!!!! hows that?
************************************************
Hol up.....I gotta add to the list that:
She is not to text, call or even THINK about you while the game is on....
If she is caught in your rival teams jersey? Automatic awesome-jawsome on site! (hey she should have known better...)
Lastly, she must never refer to a male player as "cute"....Monkeys, kids & hearts are cute....this here is my game we talkinbout....
--------------------------------------------------------------
See that's what i'm talkin bout. See I need to come visit ya'll on some ol' cold case files type shit and get a DNA swab. Then go back to the lab and get my Weird Science on and create me a new breezy. I'd be in the lab like dis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiFfUnimUH4

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aj22 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:32:20 GMT

peace to mush da great---------------

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:34:19 GMT

@me-me, make it the breakfast klub an d we can do it

@lioness - i'll wait til 12 to say, i'll talk to you

@mu$h - back up, i already got the plane ticket to get at jigga, she getting a master's today (i got dibbs) lh!

@jigga - (frowing) in my jay-z voice hating, please don't like him, he one night's them! (lh)

@arkansas - cosign, i always said that about wayne, he been on since he was 11 (get it how you live)

@theeak - feel you but to me, pac top 2 imo

@board
what changes if any do you plan to beeter your life in 09
i'm not talking weight loss, stop smoking etc...i mean better your life as a person?

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:36:52 GMT

@hot said:
Hol up.....I gotta add to the list that:
She is not to text, call or even THINK about you while the game is on....
If she is caught in your rival teams jersey? Automatic awesome-jawsome on site! (hey she should have known better...)
Lastly, she must never refer to a male player as "cute"....Monkeys, kids & hearts are cute....this here is my game we talkinbout...............................................
Lmbo, see you def know what's up. Wait how about a chick who watches and doesn't know the game, so she keep interrupting with a ?. she gets a how did you say it, AUTOMATIC JAWESOME ON SITE, lol. i like that there.

I'm not going to front Hot, i'm OBSESSED with it. got the kids trained. the teen goes to church with the grandparents on sunday, the little one goes to his room and hibernates for the afternoon. I already have dinner cooked and ready by 11am. I watch the pregame, game, postgame. Basically i watch football all darn day on Sunday. DON'T BOTHER ME. lol. hence why i said to you a while back i have to take the lil one out on Sat. it's our compromise. lol.

You know Indy got it this wk. Va isn't too far off with that pick of INdy/Giant SB, but i don't think the Titans are hearing that. Either way, you know i can't be happy if it's either. The mannings annoy me.

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:38:55 GMT

@ lioness, knowl,

a mixtape of slim thug flows before he went commercial
46 songs

http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/3617/slim_thug_b4_tha_majors.html

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Just_Rude — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:39:43 GMT

aj22 said:
peace to illseed for doing his thang---------------

what up

just rude
me me /knowl
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what's good this morning?

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:44:11 GMT

justrude said: You really think atl has a chance against tampa.. i mean r. barber and them been playing there a@@ off the last couple of weeks (with the exception of last week)-----------------------------------

Your right about TB playing good ball lately. Its my upset pick of the wk. Also I like the QB, you know old BC eagle native. lol. naw but for real, I think ATL has a chance, and if i'm correct TB is going to ATL. that's a game there. only one i'm torn on is that sea/stl game, they both suck badly. lol what you thinking on that one?

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TriggerMan77 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:45:14 GMT

They'll never catch me ALIVE/I'm gettin high wit my 4-5/cocked on these SUCKAS, time to die/even as a YOUNGSTA/causin' rutkus on the back of the BUS/I was a FOOL all through high SCHOOL, kickin up DUST....... Tupac

What the fuck is that crackhead Budden talkin about Pac was the best rapper interms of putting words and rhyme schemes together. Pac was one of the best at it. The difference between Pac and a nigga like Buddens is that Pac was a PROFESSIONAL and used his talents to rap about relevant issues and substance. Not to brag about his lyrical powers and shit like these glorified street corner rappers/amateurs be doing.

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:48:13 GMT

Amazing...

Knowl & MEME had the best posts I have seen on here so far (as of 9:22:)

MEME - I really do wish you had a twin, because pretty much everything you said in all your posts I cosign.

I'm not even gonna touch the Pac discussion today...I can't see the Joe Buddens interview, so I won't even touch it. Lyrically, Buddens is a beast. Still waitin' on a rekkid (<---thx BP:) to drop tho...

Pac might not have been the best at "word play", but he was still the best RAPPER in my opinion...better than Buddens...

*George Bush is going down as THE WORST Pres....period. Too much shyt happened under his watch. His daddy was a pawn too...

I can't see pics here at work, so I'll hold off on crackin' jokes on Wow Bow or Weezy.

*@Katt Williams - I say LIVE YA LIFE...nothing wrong with that...

@ZRo - I was just knocked out early yesterday, woke up late, and couldn't go back to sleep.

@MEME - I'm pretty sure you and ZRo in the same city...that's why he said that, right?

@that Shelby article on NY Rappers - I didn't think it was that "ill"....IMO. Sounded like a jaded NY rapper fan...lol. Tired of people gettin' caught up on that regional shyt. If you good, you good...and if you suck, you suck...

@the whole Hamilton and Soulja Boy ish - I think that stuff is funny, and what Soulja Boy said on WorldStar is hilarious...don't hate on successful people because your shyt ain't poppin (and I like that Hamilton character). But don't be throwing other people's names out there because your stuff ain't poppin...Folks keep hatin on Soulja Boy, and he continues to get MORE $$$. I guess Katt Williams was right! That's why I am gonna stop talkin' bout Plies..

"Go do Super Mario or something...gobble up some mushrooms or some shyt"...classic jokes.

Soulja Boy was that kid who always got shyt started with jokes...funny dude...

@the board - GET YA WEIGHT UP, NOT YA HATE UP!

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:50:49 GMT

zro said: @board
what changes if any do you plan to beeter your life in 09
i'm not talking weight loss, stop smoking etc...i mean better your life as a person?
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I'm mad at you, but i'm still talking. (lh)

now to answer your?. this one is easy for me. It's simple. no more complaining about the way my community is going. I've always been very active and involved but now i'm going to take a chance at the youth. I've been a bit discouraged at the teens in my area and what's been transpiring. There's a few situations going on around here and i'm making the plans to get involved, long as it doesn't take me away from my own sons.

check your email, i'll enlighten you more. If it's nothing i've learned in the last 2wks, FOLKS DON'T LIKE TO READ your notes if it isn't an ebeef, ongoing tupac debate or fav artist beef, or some serious intellectual, mind boggling debate. :-)

nothing against you who do, i just like to chat about EVERYTHING not just one subject. :-)

bless up

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TriggerMan77 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:51:46 GMT

OH YEAH I PEEPED THE ARTICLE ABOUT THE "NYC RAPPER" BECOMING EXTINCT. THE REASON WHY THEM WACK ASS NEW YORK RAPPERS ARE LOSING IS BECAUSE THEY'RE CHASING MONEY NOT SKILLS. WHEN NAS, MOBB DEEP, BIGGIE, AND NIGGAS LIKE BLACK MOON CREATED THEIR EARLY CD'S THEY WERE TRYING TO MAKE HISTORY MUSICALLY AND CREATE MASTERPIECES, NOT FAKE ASS CLUB SONGS LIKE "BALLIN".

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mu$h da great — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:55:33 GMT

I see my 1st post didn't go through....... let me try again..

@knowl,va,willy, quisee, killa2thab,miss d,bfg,518,hp,rude,hot,sexy,g-unot,taylormade,a dopefemale mc, bp1, lionesse,
blacksean,jhamal,mak, g-unot,
ill,shelz,lady d,twon, jigga girl, tripple c, tommy k, adopefemalemc, ......boy 2 men, abc,bbd, the ahh family.... lol

@aj22 - you are looking stunning in your avi......

"dam it feels good to be back I am having a relapse"

I saw something that warmed my heart the other day (implied). layzie bone & ak (from do or die) have a album together called finally. 2 niggas from 2 of my favorite groups who formerly had issues with each other have put the bullshit aside & collaborated. that's waz up. I haven't heard it but the just the fact that there working with each other got me amped up to get it. I'm trying to tell yall the midwest invasion will not be televised.... we creepin in the screen door though ..lol

what is quest love talking about?
arab money, pop champagne?
east coast watered down less creative version of t-pain. I gave dude a chance but I can no longer listen to more than 10 seconds of ether of those songs . the chorus comes in I have to cut that shit off. what's funny is I like t-pain but I can't get with ron brows. I might have to hear some of his other work...(maybe without autotune) I don't know..... right now its just coming across as lame to me. jimmy is cool .... sometime. I fucked with p.o.m.e., diary of a summer & on my way to church.

& kanye says bush doesn't care about black people (sarcasm). vick damn near done with his time now aint he?

charles hamilton is that dude.... his last 4 mixtapes have all been live to me. I tried to download that pink lava lamp but the sight I was on was too busy.

how mad what it make you to see a nigga paradeing something thats yours around everywhere he went lol? fuck if he collected insurance money off of it, that shit is embarrassing.on the outside looking in its hilarious but I know that shit has to be eating berg up inside.

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 15:59:39 GMT

Im going to tell you the problem with alot of up top rappers. They put TOO much emphasis on the lyrics.

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:03:04 GMT

Alot of New York niggaz cant pick tracks.

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Just_Rude — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:03:12 GMT

lionesse23 said:
justrude said: You really think atl has a chance against tampa.. i mean r. barber and them been playing there a@@ off the last couple of weeks (with the exception of last week)-----------------------------------

Your right about TB playing good ball lately. Its my upset pick of the wk. Also I like the QB, you know old BC eagle native. lol. naw but for real, I think ATL has a chance, and if i'm correct TB is going to ATL. that's a game there. only one i'm torn on is that sea/stl game, they both suck badly. lol what you thinking on that one?
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i don't think stl has a chance... i mean they haven't done anything impressive this season .. now by no means am i saying that seattle is better than them cause they suck also .. but i think that if sea come to play (like i'm praying they are) they will win ..

As for atlanta i forgot that mat was from the BC Eagles... he really is holding his own this year so i can't even begin to hate on him so i'll ride with you on this pick .. but if barber has a good game it's your fault... lol

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:04:05 GMT

TriggerMan77 said:
They'll never catch me ALIVE/I'm gettin high wit my 4-5/cocked on these SUCKAS, time to die/even as a YOUNGSTA/causin' rutkus on the back of the BUS/I was a FOOL all through high SCHOOL, kickin up DUST....... Tupac

What the fuck is that crackhead Budden talkin about Pac was the best rapper interms of putting words and rhyme schemes together. Pac was one of the best at it. The difference between Pac and a nigga like Buddens is that Pac was a PROFESSIONAL and used his talents to rap about relevant issues and substance. Not to brag about his lyrical powers and shit like these glorified street corner rappers/amateurs be doing.

^^^^^Trigger...

Don't even entertain comments or what not from folks in regards to Tupac and how good or great he was. Folks know...

Like Jay said...

Men lie, Women lie, numbers don't...

Pac is the black Elvis....period...

*Shakur was inducted into the Hip-Hop Hall of Fame in 2002.

*In 2003, MTV's "22 Greatest MCs" countdown listed Shakur as the "number 1 MC", as voted by the viewers.

*In 2004, at the VH1 Hip Hop Honors Shakur was honored along with DJ Hollywood, Kool DJ Herc, KRS-One, Public Enemy, Run-D.M.C., Rock Steady Crew, and Sugarhill Gang.

*A Vibe magazine poll in 2004 rated Shakur "the greatest rapper of all time" as voted by fans.

*At the First Annual Turks & Caicos International Film Festival held on Tuesday, October 17, 2006, Shakur was honored for his undeniable voice and talent and as a performer who crossed racial, ethnic, cultural and medium lines; his mother accepted the award on his behalf.

*In 2008, the The National Association Of Recording Merchandisers in conjunction with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame recognized him as a very influential artist and has added him in their Definitive 200 list.

And in terms of world wide sales, there are "claims" based on sales (albums, singles, and downloads) he is one of the top 3 selling Hip Hop artists of ALL TIME, right behind Eminem (117) and Jay Z (152). Sources are record labels, newspaper articles or manual addition of figures from various official sources. It puts Tupac at 183 on a list of 200 (50-74 Million records sold).

Of course, these are just stats...could be easily off. We all know Tupac had like 1,000's of verses done before he passed, and his work has been mixed, bootlegged, and whatever else over the years...

Say what you will about Pac, but if he weren't a GREAT rapper, he wouldn't still be in people's mouths as he is now. I'm sure Pac would take "one of the greatest" over #1 any day...

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:05:48 GMT

Oh...

And I apologize for touching the Tupac convo...I'm a Gemini...we can't help but contradict ourselves:0)

Twin action...

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:07:11 GMT

Sayin a rapper is "Extra Lyrical" is like callin b-baller a excellent dribbler. Thats only one facet to the game. How many "and1" niggaz make it to the league?

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mu$h da great — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:11:44 GMT

I need to proof read my shit before I hit submit lol.....

@zro-coldest - lmao

@lionesse - smh, its a shame. I couldn't bring myself to even watch the last game......thats still my team though.we just gone have to try to get wit it next season. I try to stay optimistic.

cavs on a 10 win streak soon to be 11 come friday though .....

soulja boy might not be the most lyrical artist but I respect that niggas drive. he found his nitch & continues to do his thing.

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mu$h da great — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:12:26 GMT

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Davy da prince — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:14:43 GMT

@ Trigger man

Yeah i get where ur coming from but wat Buddens said carries some weight. Pac wasn't the greatest at Lyrics and wordplay i'd take B.I.G and Andre 3000 anyday but he had a way of using his lyrics to connect wit people and paint pictures,

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:17:27 GMT

*peeks head in door*

Quick question...is it just me or am I the only one who hates "Gospel Rap"?

and SMH and some clown up there (don't feel like scrolling up there and searchin') cryin' & wettin' his bed because Joe Budden doesn't feel the same way his favorite rapper. Don't break a nail dude.

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Chicago2London — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:18:15 GMT

We all Know Janet actually has a little baby already named Jermaine Dupree

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Davy da prince — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:18:34 GMT

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doobie-ashtray — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:22:09 GMT

whats really good?

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alleyezonme420 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:28:34 GMT

Kappagem said:
TriggerMan77 said:
They'll never catch me ALIVE/I'm gettin high wit my 4-5/cocked on these SUCKAS, time to die/even as a YOUNGSTA/causin' rutkus on the back of the BUS/I was a FOOL all through high SCHOOL, kickin up DUST....... Tupac

What the fuck is that crackhead Budden talkin about Pac was the best rapper interms of putting words and rhyme schemes together. Pac was one of the best at it. The difference between Pac and a nigga like Buddens is that Pac was a PROFESSIONAL and used his talents to rap about relevant issues and substance. Not to brag about his lyrical powers and shit like these glorified street corner rappers/amateurs be doing.

^^^^^Trigger...

Don't even entertain comments or what not from folks in regards to Tupac and how good or great he was. Folks know...

Like Jay said...

Men lie, Women lie, numbers don't...

Pac is the black Elvis....period...

*Shakur was inducted into the Hip-Hop Hall of Fame in 2002.

*In 2003, MTV's "22 Greatest MCs" countdown listed Shakur as the "number 1 MC", as voted by the viewers.

*In 2004, at the VH1 Hip Hop Honors Shakur was honored along with DJ Hollywood, Kool DJ Herc, KRS-One, Public Enemy, Run-D.M.C., Rock Steady Crew, and Sugarhill Gang.

*A Vibe magazine poll in 2004 rated Shakur "the greatest rapper of all time" as voted by fans.

*At the First Annual Turks & Caicos International Film Festival held on Tuesday, October 17, 2006, Shakur was honored for his undeniable voice and talent and as a performer who crossed racial, ethnic, cultural and medium lines; his mother accepted the award on his behalf.

*In 2008, the The National Association Of Recording Merchandisers in conjunction with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame recognized him as a very influential artist and has added him in their Definitive 200 list.

And in terms of world wide sales, there are "claims" based on sales (albums, singles, and downloads) he is one of the top 3 selling Hip Hop artists of ALL TIME, right behind Eminem (117) and Jay Z (152). Sources are record labels, newspaper articles or manual addition of figures from various official sources. It puts Tupac at 183 on a list of 200 (50-74 Million records sold).

Of course, these are just stats...could be easily off. We all know Tupac had like 1,000's of verses done before he passed, and his work has been mixed, bootlegged, and whatever else over the years...

Say what you will about Pac, but if he weren't a GREAT rapper, he wouldn't still be in people's mouths as he is now. I'm sure Pac would take "one of the greatest" over #1 any day...
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I don't think this coulda been said/typed any better! Props to Kappagem

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:32:46 GMT

Dwrite or whoever...

Please post that again...

I always talk about how Hip-Hop lacks balance right now. In general, my philosophy is that the music is in one lane WAY too much. No balance whatsoever. In the 90's you had political vs. party vs. conscious vs. etc, etc, etc...

Nowadays it's ALL club music or bangin/slangin/pimpin/mackin/flossin....but not much else.

And I don't BLAME the artists that have made it. I don't even blame the artists that try to be on some political ish and don't get shine. I blame the fans. Nas still ain't went platinum. Who's fault is that?

Nas? Maybe, but he built controversy as to the album's title, not to mention his whole Hip Hop Is Dead comments over the last few years.

The Record label? Not really, because they actually pubbed and marketed the album...

The listeners...OH, that's where it's at, because the same people who complain about the music illegally download the shyt, which is just a horrible cycle to why artists don't get promoted (75% of sales are by the urban white youth anyhow, right?)

I agree with what you said...my favorite artists have had a lil of everything in them, which makes them just a lil more REAL to me...

Pac, Big, Jay, Nas, Common, Talib, Big L, Rakim...hell, they spit ish you can feel.

Oh, and to the board...

I actually respect people who don't like Pac. For real...but I don't think that means you can say he wasn't a beast. He just wasn't a beast to YOU. I wasn't a fan of Pun...doesn't mean I don't think he was one of the coldest artists. He touched a lot of cats, but he wasn't FOR ME.

It's all a matter of opinion...

Okay, I'll stop...

But D, that was a great post

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@ Doe - Thanks for the shout out...Same to you ZRo, Mu$h, and whoever else hit me. I would go back and look, but I need to get off of here before I get fired! So, Shout outs to the whole board!!! (almost:)

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Quiseebaby — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:37:09 GMT

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VA_2_CA — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:39:38 GMT

What good today AHH?

Aight, i better watch that budden video before i comment casue i know he better not be talking bad bout pac!

X-Z do yo thang and come out wit some real music for us!

@TriggerMan77

hell yeah pac went hard on that "pain" track wit stretch

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Quiseebaby — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:39:48 GMT

@ Killa B

The problem was rappers up top aint being lyrical, its the fact niggas dont know how to make songs. Niggas can make a verse, but cant create a hook, a bridge, catchy one liners and shit like that. As far as up north go, when the south done the next artist isnt goin to come from NY he's gonna come from the Midwest WATCH! We doin it in the MID but niggas aint getting heard yet. People here covering it on all bases. Lyrics, Hooks, Track Selection, the whole 9. Holla at me if anybody need some of this midwest shit that ya ears aint hearing. I got u

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:40:02 GMT

Killa2thaB said:
Sayin a rapper is "Extra Lyrical" is like callin b-baller a excellent dribbler. Thats only one facet to the game. How many "and1" niggaz make it to the league?

^^^^^Preach.

Cosign that AND the statement you said about cats so worried about the lyrics. 50 be garbage...actually, he always has said Banks was WAY better lyrically, as well as even BUCK. But who makes the hottest rekkid? (<---I can't help it BP! That's my ish now!)

Cassidy is an example I like to use. He's a beast at battlin'...

And he always drops a HOT joint for a summer or whenever...

But albums be kinda

boo boo...

Breaks my heart...

And wtf is JOEY BUDDENS with the music! Yeah, the rekkid labels can be dirty, but DAYUM!

oh, LOX albums, but specifically KISS do this as well. A few hot joints, sick wordplay, but album be lightweight yawners...

Hurts the heart mayne!

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:40:43 GMT

@kapp - hey hey, you know i was going to call you out for getting into the Pac chat, lol. but then i seen your next post. that's how the Gems do it heh? lol. how are you AGAIN? lol. it's only been a few hours. :-)

@zro - thanks for the slim link.

@Iammclfy - why do you hate Gospel rap? just curious? it's a hiphop site, i'm always talking sports, figured let me touch on your ?. :-)

@justrude - now see you done went and jinxed it. You have to go with TB now. I'm still rolling with ATL though. Plus I can't stand Grudgen. You know that was Dungy's team that won that SB right?

@mush - i feel you, i'm the same way about my Boston teams. We had a good stretch of losses. Heck the C's just getting back right after a few boneheaded moves over the last couple of years. I still say you should keep Crennel and get rid of the GM. not the other way around. the players like Romeo.

@davy - what's the deal with you and knowl? I big up my fellow Islanders, put up some links for ya'll to check and me neva get a response? bullet, bullet. :-) j/k one love

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AJRICH — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:45:39 GMT

Whats Good AHH ?

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:45:41 GMT

Quiseebaby said:
TriggerMan77 said:
They'll never catch me ALIVE/I'm gettin high wit my 4-5/cocked on these SUCKAS, time to die/even as a YOUNGSTA/causin' rutkus on the back of the BUS/I was a FOOL all through high SCHOOL, kickin up DUST....... Tupac

What the fuck is that crackhead Budden talkin about Pac was the best rapper interms of putting words and rhyme schemes together. Pac was one of the best at it. The difference between Pac and a nigga like Buddens is that Pac was a PROFESSIONAL and used his talents to rap about relevant issues and substance. Not to brag about his lyrical powers and shit like these glorified street corner rappers/amateurs be doing.
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I see what u saying, but um Joey B aint that rapper u was referring too. Do tha research he talk about REAL SHIT ALL THE TIME! Lyrically he would run circles around Pac on every level. I aint saying he a better artist but he's by farrrrrr a better rapper.

^^^^Look at what Killa2tha said about lyrics. Refer to that...

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Doe A. Fella — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:51:35 GMT

Killa2thaB said:
Sayin a rapper is "Extra Lyrical" is like callin b-baller a excellent dribbler. Thats only one facet to the game. How many "and1" niggaz make it to the league?
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Yo that's real spit right there.

I think that's how a lot of regional biases start. Cause one region feels like their skill that their region possesses is the "key" to the game and no one can do it like them.

Maybe bein in the midwest for a good portion of my life allowed me to be able to embrace everything equally. I want an artist to be as balanced as possible, too much of jus one element does not make a complete artist in my opinion.

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:53:04 GMT

@lionesse - You gonna have people on here thinking we done did something (talkin' bout it's only been a few hours...lol).

And she did fire a few shots at ya'll knowl and davy...haha...

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Whattup folks!

Davy
MEME
AJ22Avilihish
Knowl
ZRo
Q
Doe
Lionnesse
IAM
Killa2tha
Trigga
Hotnuknowwhatitisbias
Mu$h
Va
BP
HP
Fizz (where you at?)
adope1
jiggagirl (that avi was poppin...and congrats on grad!)
bfg
SEARS
518 - "I don't speak chinese" was the best quote from yesterday!
DGRUDGE - Ya'll better brush them shitz before you leave him off ya shout out list! lol

Okay, if you aren't on there, and we usually talk, just know this...

It's 11:52 a.m. and I have to keep going back and forth with work:)

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 16:59:51 GMT

I got Buddens new mix-tape. I hate the tracks. They just sound like noise. The nigga can rap like a muthafucka but I need to like the beat to be able to stomach it.

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Just_Rude — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:02:02 GMT

lionesse23 said:

@justrude - now see you done went and jinxed it. You have to go with TB now. I'm still rolling with ATL though. Plus I can't stand Grudgen. You know that was Dungy's team that won that SB right?
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yeah that was dungy's team that won that's why tampa really hasn't been doing anything since then.. dungy is a very underrated coach i'm glad he was able to do what he did in INDY.

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Quiseebaby — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:02:11 GMT

@ Kappa

Check my post that I sent at Killa B.

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:03:12 GMT

Doe A. Fella said:
Killa2thaB said:
Sayin a rapper is "Extra Lyrical" is like callin b-baller a excellent dribbler. Thats only one facet to the game. How many "and1" niggaz make it to the league?
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Yo that's real spit right there.

I think that's how a lot of regional biases start. Cause one region feels like their skill that their region possesses is the "key" to the game and no one can do it like them.

Maybe bein in the midwest for a good portion of my life allowed me to be able to embrace everything equally. I want an artist to be as balanced as possible, too much of jus one element does not make a complete artist in my opinion.

^^^^^Doe...

Maybe that is a Midwest thing, because I have always felt that way. I remember when folks thought I was crazy, because I could bump Jay's Reasonable Doubt and follow it up with Master P's Ghetto D. Finish the day off with some Snoop or Pac and what not, and even have a mix with mad Outkast on it.

Folks at IU thought I was "lost", because I listened to EVERYTHING...WU Tang, Trick Daddy, and E-40 got burn.

And don't let me get on my Bone Thugs, Do Or Die, Twista, and Crucial Conflict. Be sitting there rewinding the TAPE, trying to figure out what they just said.

I rocks music from ERRRRRRRRRYYYYYWHERE....

My favorite ARTIST happen to be from the West (by way of NY:), but I mostly rock East Coast and South Music. But I don't discriminate...not at all

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:06:02 GMT

Quiseebaby said:
@ Killa B

The problem was rappers up top aint being lyrical, its the fact niggas dont know how to make songs. Niggas can make a verse, but cant create a hook, a bridge, catchy one liners and shit like that. As far as up north go, when the south done the next artist isnt goin to come from NY he's gonna come from the Midwest WATCH! We doin it in the MID but niggas aint getting heard yet. People here covering it on all bases. Lyrics, Hooks, Track Selection, the whole 9. Holla at me if anybody need some of this midwest shit that ya ears aint hearing. I got u

^^^^^Yeah, I agree with that...

They don't know how to put a SONG together....

50 actually talks about that alot. Cats might hate 50 (lately, he's been a lil off), but he usually knows how to put MUSIC together...

I'm still surprised he hasn't been able to get more out of Banks...because that dude goes HARD on his early mixtapes and what not...I guess they come out of that "element", and they don't know how to create good songs or something...

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Quiseebaby — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:06:16 GMT

Killa2thaB said:
I got Buddens new mix-tape. I hate the tracks. They just sound like noise. The nigga can rap like a muthafucka but I need to like the beat to be able to stomach
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Yea thats what Im saying. Rapping wise, Joey stupid nice, but his hooks be weak and beat selection is not all that hot either so his words gets ignored by most people. Thats a prime example on why nigs in the East have problems. I agree wit u,., u gotta be nice all around the board. Dont bs wit yo rhymes for a dope hook or beat (thats what the Soulja Boys do..), dont be so worry about your verse that your hooks and beats weak ( Thats what Joe Budden do...) and dont be so concerned with your beats that everything else is garbage ( thats what ALOT of niggas down south do...) and try to keep it balanced like the T.I.'s, UGK's, Scarface and Hov's do

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:06:43 GMT

@ Lionesse23- Well besides the fact that they suck musically, I personally don't wanna hear a Christian nigga (LMAO, excuse my lingo, I type the way I talk) talk about how he USED to do drive-bys, sell cocaine to my mother and kick niggas asses and start rhyming bible verses together. They corny as hell in ALL aspects...for example, I heard a bar so terrible, I honestly, no lie, instantly fell asleep...this nigga said "But your soul was cold like a wet toliet tissue roll!" They have names like Gospel Gangstas. They blurt out shit like "Get crunk for Jesus", "Buss' it open/Make it rain for the Lord."

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:08:37 GMT

@ Killa2thaB- Are you talkin' about that one...Halfway House? If so, I got that shit too, I too concur...i'll continue bangin' my Mood Muzik joints

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KillaRell — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:08:43 GMT

it shouldn't really matter where an artist is from. who gives a shit? why is it so much focus on that? the real problem is dumb fans. Dumb fans like dumb music. Lyrical artists are too much for them. They just want a beat and silly catchphrases. No thank you. There is a limited amount of mainstream rappers I can listen to, but for the most part, I rock underground.

Music is opinion-based, if Buddens doesn't think Pac was good...then okay. That's how he feels. You can't make someone like certain music. AC/DC may be someone's favorite music group...but that is just their opinion. Let it be.

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Texas_Playa — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:08:58 GMT

IF IT DON'T BUMP IN THE TRUNK AND THE AVERAGE PERSON GOTTA GET A DICTIONARY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUCK YOU SAYING, SHIT AIN'T SELLING...POINT BLANK!!!!

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:09:09 GMT

Whewwwwww! Outta another meeting...I don't know why they INSIST that I am present....

@Lionesse...honeyyyyy let me tell you it is a family affair on Sundays with the football! 10yr old gets up with me, runs sweeper while I clean....6yr decides what the deal iaa for dinner...by 12:30ish, we ALL gettin our fam pick sheets out & game time? NOBODY better not call, text, knock on the door!('nlessin they got the Coors Light with Cold Activated Bottles...)

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:10:46 GMT

Chirps up in this bia! dayum!!!

random comment/fact - Illinoisian is a wod!?

I just read that ish on CNN...

Oh, one other thing from CNN...

Get your H2O on...

Folks don't realize it, but this oil crisis ain't SHYT compared to where we are headed when it comes to WATER of all things...

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/12/11/drought.problem/index.html

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:11:06 GMT

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:13:03 GMT

2 pac mixtape

http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/2803/2pac_americas_favorite_rapper_2.html

nas & az

http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/850/nas_az_executive_decisions.html

Jay

http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/3176/jayz_goat.html

Face

http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/15/lyricist_businessma.html

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Knowl — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:14:59 GMT

aj22 said:
peace to illseed for doing his thang---------------

what up

just rude
me me /knowl
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AJ What up hon? Cresent, Mu$h, Kappa, Lionesse23, what's good??? The God in the building
@Killa (Like we knew I wasn't gonna say something about this) Ya DAMN RIGHT we put emphasis on our lyrics!!!!!!! I take that as a complement. I write my lyrics like if I had to do them without music live at a show, would they still be hot??? Would people look at me like I broke down quantum physics in a 16 bar format. I want that "Oh SHIT DID YOU HEAR WHAT THE F--- HE SAID???" Look That's what ANY Good MC wants to get. The last person who made me feel like that was Kweli. He is so nasty. My bad actually it was Pos from De La Soul off their Grind Date CD (Pick it up if you want to hear real hip hop) On the subject of tracks, Canibus said some 'Igniant shit" about it. He was quoted as saying "I'm a lyricist, what the fuck I know about beats?" That's why his career is in the shitter. Before you started rhyming, your a fan. I'm a Huge hip hop fan. I know hot tracks, I know wack ones. I pick only hot tracks. One time my producer gave me a CD of tracks (about 6 or so) I sent them ALL back, because I wasn't with them. He gave me some hot shit n I made it happen. I wouldn't say that just NY MC's have a problem picking wack tracks. I heard some 3 6 stuff that made me throw up in my mouth.

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djcbz — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:17:07 GMT

EVERYMAN ENTITLED TO HIS OR HER OPINION ON WHO IS THE GREATEST. FOR ME AIN'T NO GREATEST!
BUT THERE ARE SOME WEAK ASSES GETTING A LOT OF MONEY!
THAT IS LIFE! WHAT YA GOING TO DO LIVE YOUR LIFE GET MONEY!!!!!!!!!

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:24:02 GMT

@IAmMcFly: Yeah, thats the one. I been pullin fa dude since "jump off". You know anotha nigga up top who snap is Cappadonna.

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NYCityREP — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:24:17 GMT

WTF. I cannot believe there are still people defending Joe Buddens after he already said "Fuck N.Y." & now he saying "Fuck 2Pac".

FUCK JOE BUDDENS. THIS BITCH ASS NIGGA IS JUST HATING B/C HE DIDN'T BLOW UP.

@ Joe Buddens: Kill Yourself.

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mu$h da great — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:26:20 GMT

I'm tryin to tell yall mid 09 & 2010 we "creepin on a come up" (what you know about that lol?)

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:28:12 GMT

mu$h da great said:
I'm tryin to tell yall mid 09 & 2010 we "creepin on a come up" (what you know about that lol?)

************************************************
.......East-99? Huh....for Lil Wally? LOL

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Five18p — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:28:58 GMT

Ayo wud up AHH?

what y'all doing out here today?

lemme see...

Doe A. Fella said:
Yo that sayin, "curiosity killed the cat" is some true shit.

Tell me why my curious ass on the strength of today's rumors jus went and looked at dis shit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czR1yxKfhUc

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ayo I mean no dis-respect for you people living in the south

But that video "stanky leg" is one of the reason why people look at the south like y'alls some fools.

That's y'all shit...ain't nobody's else...

You can say

"awww them just the party rekkids"

well that's all we see...

Y'all look like jigga boo sellouts doing shit like that, all the rage the past 6 years or so is bullshit like this...

yeah you got ya Jeezy's, UGK, 8ball and dem, Outkast, T.I, but why most of the sit that come from the south is ghetto trash bullshit ass, disrespectful lack of talent dumbo music?

That shit is foul....

I'm throwing the flag...

And why y'all never say shit about it till us "yankees" or some west coast head say sumin?

Y'all shouldn't let em get away wit that...

And y'all wonder why people talk down on south music? (rap)

The worst the WestCoast had in terms of shitty dance rekkids was
"Humpty Dance" and that was kinda cool actually

The worst N.Y had was that "chicken noodle soup" bullshit....and y'all see what N.Y. did to him.

Cut that shit out.....

Mr. Shapiro(that's hiphop?)
518p-

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:31:18 GMT

Well to put all this in perspective about the MC'in...

It's a known fact that NIGGAS DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!!!

For example, I don't understand homosexuality so I don't like it.
I don't understand eating escargots (snails, a delicacy to some) so I don't like it. So when niggas say (and believe me they do) Boosie is better than Jay-Z or Nas just goes to show that that individual is not capable of understanding or willing to learn the English language.

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:35:51 GMT

@ Killa2thaB- You know what, man even though I think Cappadonna is actually wack but "The Pillage" gets mad play in my Ipod. Maybe it's the RZA production but that shit jams to me

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:36:13 GMT

@Knowl: Nigga you done had me sittin here for 20 minutes waitin on u to defend yo set.lol U know I gotta go cigarello shoppin wit dem sand niggaz up da street.Damn. Im sayin a buncha chopped up samples aint it. Most shit up there aint organic enough. Alot of niggaz up there just use keyboards to blend in those samples that they stealin. As far as the 3/6 mafia shit goes, unless you talkin bout their latest flop, them niggaz done had a ton of hard ass tracks. I wish I had a 3/6 mafia instrumental cd to ride to.And them niggaz make they on shit...Im sayin, I could listen to alot more New York shit, if it wasnt for those noisey tracks.

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:37:44 GMT

@midwest - yo when i was in it, i was checking for ray cash

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Five18p — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:39:29 GMT

@Kappy
@Doe
@KillaB

Yo Pac wasn't a good rapper, hands down point blank....

Ima put it like this....

Maybe since music has gotten so mainstream y'all forgot what an emcee was and does....

In it's essence an emcee is to be able to "battle" another emcee wit pure words....

No stage, props or nuffin...

So if you had some one like Pun or Big or Buddens or Andre 3000 or Crooked and they wanted to battle line for line?

You gon call Pac?

If Pac, Nas and Cannibus was sitting behind you and you had to pick one of them to battle them dudes I mentioned who would you pick last?

Be honest wit ya selves...

Y'all got the art fucked up, in it's essence an emcees is to be able to battle and spit out some hot ass fiya if he want's to be considered and dope emcee.

Now when you take in account being an "artist" then Tupac is tha shit...

Cuz he can touch you through his music and got a good presence.

But don't fool y'all selves...

If Tupac was ya man and you was around a bunch of hiphop heads and Joe Budden was like, that's ya mans?

he cat flow lemme battle that nigga?

You think Tupac could fuck wit that nigga line for line?

nawwww....

In case you don't know Battle raps don't include story telling...

Or saying "I live thug life baby"

Nigga's like Redman would battle you wit the topic being an Ice cream truck!

Mr. Shapiro(E.M.C.E.E. a smooth operator, operating correctly)
518p-

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:39:53 GMT

518: Im'a be right back! My habit is stronger than my need to defend my hood. But dont u go no where nigga.lol

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:41:31 GMT

@board - southern artist you can rock to (screwed)

http://www.livemixtapes.com/mixtapes/129/southern_smoke_16_c.html

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:43:30 GMT

@ 518p- As a South nigga and one of the few smart ones, i'll be the 1st to say...the niggas round here act as if they were slaves who didn't know they was freed or something. Nigga we stupid!!!!! I was just talkin bout that shit the other day...we put out all these dance records about dancing and shit...FOR WHAT!!!? We ain't got shit to dance about, niggas is broke, ain't gettin' shit for Xmas, it's 32 degrees outside and ain't accomplished shit in life but we stay dancing. I wanna know what they hell they excited for

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Quiseebaby — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:43:44 GMT

@ knowl

I share ur view as well. As a hiphop fan and artist I know its two different things. See as a fan I know what I like to hear. I know whats REAL music and whats gimmick and whats made with hopes of selling. As a artist I take pride in EVERY verse and u right I LOVE the did u hear what Quis said? Me personally the respect is more then making a club record or something, but at the same time I make a SONG! I make the shit catchy and I pick good tracks and everything a ARTIST is suppose to do. As a lyricist ALOT of the things I want people to catch they never do. I do double meaning rhymes alot and most people dont catch it so that shows that the average person to support u isnt going to listen THAT hard to yo shit so u gotta make shit to catch they EAR. Alot of dudes over east dont put pride into the WHOLE craft.

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mu$h da great — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:46:48 GMT

@518 -"okay stop what ya doin cause about to ruin the image & the style that you used too" that's a classic though lol... what about the "aunt jackie" , those was some eastcoast niggas. I guess chicken noodle soup with a soda on the side was worse.

what yall know about the "ricky bobby" though lmao?

"milk this cow" was my shit way back when......

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:49:36 GMT

Mor'ting AHH ...

DJ KHALED NOT THE PREZ? ... Well thats just great nobody wants to hear him screaming WE THE BEST thru the halls every five minutes ... I swear he has a syndrome

YAAAAYYYYY for JD and Janet ... they are going to have a cute LIL baby

Kat Williams ... Don't Do IT !!!! I need you ... Where else can I get words like Niggadom ??

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Knowl — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:49:39 GMT

Cresent City Connektor said:
Sup fam!!! Just peeking in for a sec..may bounce back thru later

I see ya Knowl and Meme_Slim
---------------------------------
what it do yo.

Let's take it across the country. what I rock

Ghostface Killah http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdYWjkznikA

The Roots http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6caDCTNx28

Dre (of OutKast) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9l4-LihZmy8

Big Boi (also Kast) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2_tbDQvKtE

Goodie MOB (Peace to the Moon) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWb7yiKCwEo

Bone Thugs (what up Kappa) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GVbeTdDRs4

Ice Cube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t41oSMD6vc

Tha Dogg Pound http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca5PZ8ispMY

Talib Kweli http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUPCBmcpNzk

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:50:28 GMT

Damn AHH Ladies....why do I always get left in the sausage fest? Please tell me ya'll ain't workin.....we only give 20% on Thursdays, ya'll ain't get the memo?

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SeanJohn81 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:53:11 GMT

@Killa2tha
I feel you. Some artist are missing the talent of beat selection. Joey needs some guidance but as far as me as a listener, I miss the beat because I focus on what he spits. I listen to lyrics and would like to see Joey and more artist just start spittin acapella. I think most of the New York artist refuse to sell out and pick southern beats. They kill em on mixtapes but steer clear during album time.

@Knowl
What's poppin big brother? Can you shoot me a few links to check out some of your tracks. I want to see how your personality meets the artist side of you???

@hotnuknowit
Are your Colts gonna show up this weekend????

@Quiseebaby
Let me get a link to some of your tracks as well. I wanna put some newness up in the whip so I could put others on to ya movement as well. How's the weather out there?

@AJ22
What's good smiley???

@Zro
Since you gave up your hiphop what are you listening 2? I am so uninspired by the direction of hiphop, I may follow suit soon. I hope this art form that I love so much gets some originality and back on track or I will ban it from my life. I was just trying to listen to the radio this morning while in traffic and heard 4 songs on 3 stations in a 1 hour time frame. It nearlly drove me to crash my damn whip because the masses listen to what someone else says is hot and in all reality it is hot trash. I wound up listening to Steve Harvey's morning show and it really had me mellow. I think that was a sign. If I hear 1 more rhyme an=bout how big my rims are, how much ice I got on, or how many dudes I kiiled, I'm gonna go crazy.........

@MEME
Hey sis??? What is for lunch, I'm starving

@Lionesse23
What's up with ya boy big baby breakin down and livin up to his name?????

@Just_Rude
I smell another SuperBowl, last weeks lost served as our wake up call and we really needed it. We gotta smash Dallas and keep them out of the playoffs now, it's hard 2 beat a team 3 times in a year....

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:55:19 GMT

Now don't get me wrong NY niggas got some poo poo up there too! *pulls out the New York no-no list*

Ya'll got some dope producers but ya'll got some TRASHOLA niggas though....you can't just throw some gunshots over a Sam Cooke "A Change Gon' Come" loop and call it a beat. WTF?

Papoose. I'm sorry, he sucks. He said, get this, he said..."I'm about to Free Willy like the dolphin"

Saigon. Not the worse i've heard but he damn sure ain't the savior of NY. This nigga record s'posed to came out 5 years ago and I ain't heard a peep, not that i'm checkin' for it or nuthin.

Jim Jones. Ya'll let a nigga who names himself after a gay minister who started a cult and made people drink cyanide Kool-Aid get in the rap game and ya'll respect him? Do your research. It's there. Come on NY, gots to do better.

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:56:15 GMT

IAmMcFly said:
@ 518p- As a South nigga and one of the few smart ones, i'll be the 1st to say...the niggas round here act as if they were slaves who didn't know they was freed or something. Nigga we stupid!!!!! I was just talkin bout that shit the other day...we put out all these dance records about dancing and shit...FOR WHAT!!!? We ain't got shit to dance about, niggas is broke, ain't gettin' shit for Xmas, it's 32 degrees outside and ain't accomplished shit in life but we stay dancing. I wanna know what they hell they excited for

^^^^^^^It's called POSITIVE MENTAL ATTITUDE...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Five18p said:
@Kappy
@Doe
@KillaB

Yo Pac wasn't a good rapper, hands down point blank....

Ima put it like this....

Maybe since music has gotten so mainstream y'all forgot what an emcee was and does....

In it's essence an emcee is to be able to "battle" another emcee wit pure words....

No stage, props or nuffin...

So if you had some one like Pun or Big or Buddens or Andre 3000 or Crooked and they wanted to battle line for line?

You gon call Pac?

If Pac, Nas and Cannibus was sitting behind you and you had to pick one of them to battle them dudes I mentioned who would you pick last?

Be honest wit ya selves...

Y'all got the art fucked up, in it's essence an emcees is to be able to battle and spit out some hot ass fiya if he want's to be considered and dope emcee.

Now when you take in account being an "artist" then Tupac is tha shit...

Cuz he can touch you through his music and got a good presence.

But don't fool y'all selves...

If Tupac was ya man and you was around a bunch of hiphop heads and Joe Budden was like, that's ya mans?

he cat flow lemme battle that nigga?

You think Tupac could fuck wit that nigga line for line?

nawwww....

In case you don't know Battle raps don't include story telling...

Or saying "I live thug life baby"

Nigga's like Redman would battle you wit the topic being an Ice cream truck!

Mr. Shapiro(E.M.C.E.E. a smooth operator, operating correctly)
518p-

^^^^^^^But what I'm saying is they wouldn't want it with Pac on record. Yeah, they slick with the wordplay and all that. Half these niccahs say they don't write shyt down anymore...AND THAT's THEY'RE PROBLEM!

Niccahs need to pull out a pen and pad and have a reason why they trying to say the slick shyt they do. That's my thing...

Besides...I said Pac was the greatest rapper alive, not necessarily the greatest Emcee...oh, but before I forget...

Isn't an Emcees responsibility to move the crowd? Tell me this...

Who moved the crowd better? Pac or Buddens? Go ahead, I'll wait:)

That's like sitting here and saying Cassidy could murder Soulja Boy if they battled in front of people.

HELL YEAH HE WOULD...

But that crowd ain't there when I'm listening to that new hot track you took the time to create...that artistic piece you might call Dear Mama or Ambitionz Az a Ridah.

I got respect for cats who can get lyrical and "battle" other dudes, but it don't mean I'm buying their album. Case in point...

I need to hear a sample from Jada, Cass, Fabolous, LOX (yeah, I put Jada and them as a whole separate on purpose), AND this cat Cory Gunz that everybody is clamoring for before I buy one of their albums. And I mean hear the WHOLE ALBUM before I buy it.

I never had to do that with Pac...

You're right...he wasn't a good rapper. He was a GREAT one.

Music had substance, and like Dwrite said...he touched on a number of subjects.

But I digress...

Buddens is like Youtube fame right now...Pac's a legend:)

I'll take Budden beating me in a battle rhyme (if it were possible) and I touching MILLIONS of fans WORLDWIDE any day.

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:57:00 GMT

@ 518p- cmon mane...cut the bullshit...pac was a great rapper...battle rapper...no...but just "rapper"...he was great...like you said he could touch everyone with his words...really touch a nigga soul

who else could do that??? how can he be the best at that but not be a good rapper???

i think when yall talk about being a good rapper yall talkin about battle rapper...niggas...there is more to hip hop then fuckin battling

it mighta started out that way but shit is different now...it has transformed into a structured process...i know niggas that can battle they ass off but cant make a solid song for shit

was pac the best rapper??? i kinda doubt that...but was he a great rapper...hell yeah

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:57:28 GMT

518 said
No stage, props or nuffin...

So if you had some one like Pun or Big or Buddens or Andre 3000 or Crooked and they wanted to battle line for line?

_________________
em

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:57:41 GMT

SMH @ SeanJohn listening to the "Radio" in 2008. I'mma let you make it today, sounds like you been in enough trouble today

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:58:08 GMT

hotnuknowit said:
Damn AHH Ladies....why do I always get left in the sausage fest? Please tell me ya'll ain't workin.....we only give 20% on Thursdays, ya'll ain't get the memo

*****************************************
Like you cant go for a link right now ....
What it is, what it aint ???

You know they got that 2fer crackign off right now

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Quiseebaby — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:58:16 GMT

IAmMcFly said:
Well to put all this in perspective about the MC'in...

It's a known fact that NIGGAS DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!!!

For example, I don't understand homosexuality so I don't like it.
I don't understand eating escargots (snails, a delicacy to some) so I don't like it. So when niggas say (and believe me they do) Boosie is better than Jay-Z or Nas just goes to show that that individual is not capable of understanding or willing to learn the English language
********************

REAL SHIT!!!! U A 10000000% right!!! A while back me and a nig i grew up was discussing this shit cause nigs ALWAYS think all i fucks with is East Coast shit, when thats ffaaaarrrr from the truth. 2 of my top 5 aint from the East but we was going back and fourth about how Gucci is better then Jay-Z right now and he was saying Webbie CD better then Nas latest shit. Im like nigga is u smoking???....he was high tho, but he meant what he was saying. Im a lil more worldly i guess. THERE's NO WAY people can say certain people is better unless u dont get what u hearing and I like Shawty Lo and Gucci and some of them type of rappers, but I KNOW they aint lyrical killers or nothing. I know they aint artist or nothing. I know they AINT MC's. They are niggas who I find entertaining and thats a difference. U a never hear me say "oowwww did u hear what Gucci just said???"

" My flesh, no nigga could test, my soul is posessed by the Evils,
in the form of diamonds and lexus's,
the exorcist, got me doing sticks, like
homie u dont know me but the whole world owe me strip!,
Was taught to be a pleasant guy all my fuckin life,
but now Im down for whatever aint nothing nice,
through out my junior high days it was all friendly,
but now the higher learning got the remy in me,
liquors.. envading my kidneys,
got me ready to lick off father forgive me,
I cant be held accountable, the evils beating me down boo,
got me running wit guys, making G's, telling lies that sound true,
come test me, I never cowar,
for the love of money son Im giving led showers,
close your eyes u know the demons says its best to die,
and even if Jahova witnessed, but he'll never testify.."

THATS THAT SHIT! Did u hear what he said?? Do u see all the double meanings?? Did u see how he put that together?? Thats a MC and a nigga like Gucci, Lo, Bootsie or even 2Pac could NEVER do that.

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Quiseebaby — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:00:15 GMT

@SeanJohn

Send me a email and I got u...

Weather shit ....nigga its cold enough to freeze cold!

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:00:49 GMT

@ Kappa- Naw, my brotha...if by positive attitude you mean they just robbed somebody and got away or just purchased a newly bagged sack of weed these niggas ain't positive down here

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spiderman718 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:00:59 GMT

ok some people on here are straight up ignorant....do u even listen to the budden interview before talkin nonsense? I mean, just listen to his tone of voice when the question came at him...he was REPPIN pac big time, callin him one of the greatest ever, which of course is true....also true is the fact that he wasnt the "greatest rapper" when it came to rhyme schemes and lyrical arrangement....all thats saying is that, its not saying he cant make a song or he cant rap....people need to put a leash on their hate for like 5 seconds....

and illseed, look what u started by titling that joe budden interview with a MISQUOTE. He never said that "Pac wasnt a good rapper..." he said "Pac wasnt the greatest rapper when it came to rhyme schemes" etc. I mean really man, havent u been doin this long enough? Pretty poor man step ya game up...i guess this is the reason why other ppl on here dont listen to the interview before commenting, they follow your lead....ur better than that arent u?

QUEENS stand up!!

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Knowl — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:01:40 GMT

@quisee. I agree with everything you said. Fresh! You have to be able to rock the crowd with lyrics, not force the crowd to like you n get mad when they don't. I see a lot of BORING ass rappers (not MC's) get onstage with the vocal track and rock. 9 times outta 10 they are wack! Rock the mic, n get people into it. make them want to buy your music.
@518P your right when it comes to battling a lot of cats wouldn't call pac. Remember Cani an em had a nice battle back in the day. Red is sick with his and doesn't get the props that he should. if Hip Hop was a level playing field, Red would be the man.

Some more stuff that I rock:

Common http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBa55sDTIiA

Kayne (pre vocorder) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NV7Rxu0YZs

O.K (SHOUT TO 518) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUn1u9SYdCQ

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:01:49 GMT

Texas_Playa said:
IF IT DON'T BUMP IN THE TRUNK AND THE AVERAGE PERSON GOTTA GET A DICTIONARY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUCK YOU SAYING, SHIT AIN'T SELLING...POINT BLANK!!!!
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this nigga said it right...do i agree...hell no...but this is what the consumer look for...bangin ass beats and simplicity with wordplay

why you think the south runnin rap now...

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:03:11 GMT

IAmMcFly said:
Now don't get me wrong NY niggas got some poo poo up there too! *pulls out the New York no-no list*

Ya'll got some dope producers but ya'll got some TRASHOLA niggas though....you can't just throw some gunshots over a Sam Cooke "A Change Gon' Come" loop and call it a beat. WTF?

Papoose. I'm sorry, he sucks. He said, get this, he said..."I'm about to Free Willy like the dolphin"

Saigon. Not the worse i've heard but he damn sure ain't the savior of NY. This nigga record s'posed to came out 5 years ago and I ain't heard a peep, not that i'm checkin' for it or nuthin.

Jim Jones. Ya'll let a nigga who names himself after a gay minister who started a cult and made people drink cyanide Kool-Aid get in the rap game and ya'll respect him? Do your research. It's there. Come on NY, gots to do better.

^^^^LMAO!!! That was just funny, cold-blooded, and brutally honest. But that's EVERYWHERE...don't be so cold folks...:)

Oh, hold up...I gotta say this...

ON that "what happened to the NY artist" thread, this girl was going HARD against the South. Talking about how cookie cutter and bland it was, and how NY does have issues with lyricists...

But then, get this...she follows it up with, and I quote...

At least we got Maino *dead*

don't believe me, read below! hilarious in my opinion...
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DubP said:
I love everything about this entry! I feel like I have encountered, dealt with, been related to or dated more than my fair share of NYC/East Coast rappers. Most of them are struggling financially while holding fast to their dream, a couple have found a great plan B behind the scenesof music that is paying off and others have abandoned their dreams of working in entertainment. Either way the struggle is real. I used to think the problem was that NYers hath forsaken their backyard rappers and jumped on the Midwest and Southern bandwagon. Now, I just don’t know what the hell the problem is, but we definitely need to unite.

I agree with the lack of originality in NY. On a side note, I think it’s quite ironic that rappers will attribute their addiction to herbal relaxation to the effect it has on their creativity. Really? It makes yall MORE creative? I truly haven’t seen much proof-, but I digress. On the flip side, as you said …..Southern rappers are cookie cutter like a mugggg!!!! I mean WTF? I think the fans and buyers of the music are getting younger and younger therefore eliminating the great need for substance in the music. Shyt youngins just wanna shake their arse! You can’t really be mad….and a lot of these rappers just want to make dollars so they are all too willing to ….get sillyyyyy—get silly!

I love Maino. I downloaded his joints a few weeks ago and he has amazing swag…lyrics and a rawness. He has been through some real ish! I also give him props for being in his mid 30s and emerging from obscurity to the spotlight. Kudos! He can definitely get people looking East, but he definitely cannot carry us in the long run.

This is the time for NY artists to get smart really quick. The coonery of the South has been hot like fiyah for a minute now (no disrespect b/c there are a few “true” artists). You need to truly get creative and not just listen to the “yes” men in your life who are NOT challenging you to be better…sound better…promote better…perform better.

I will always support - Word!

www.myspace.com/dubpee

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LMAO again, because she actually said MAINO!

M A I N O!!!

WWWOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWW!

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:03:14 GMT

@ 518p- who you think the greatest rapper is???

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:04:10 GMT

@ Quisee- So you mean to tell me when Shawty Lo said " Call me DunDun cause I done done it all" or "He say he from the WestSide, well it must be 2 sides" ain't make you hit the rewind button? Nigga you crazy!!!! Phenomenal lyricism at it finest

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SeanJohn81 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:04:34 GMT

@IAmMcFly
I got tired of the ipod and wanted to see what was on. You how that DMV traffic be when it rain, took me 1 1/2 for my normal 20 minute commute this morning. Donnie Simpson and Russ Parr morning shows are just lame now......

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:04:39 GMT

DaCatsMeow said:
hotnuknowit said:
Damn AHH Ladies....why do I always get left in the sausage fest? Please tell me ya'll ain't workin.....we only give 20% on Thursdays, ya'll ain't get the memo

*****************************************
Like you cant go for a link right now ....
What it is, what it aint ???

You know they got that 2fer crackign off right now
************************************************
2fer???? Amazon or Borders?!?!
I gots my card ready! Oh yeah......now when have you known me to pass up on MY link????

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Texas_Playa — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:04:51 GMT

ok imma take the approach of the AVERAGE listener

FUCK YO LYRICS NIGGA!!!!!!

LYRICS DON'T MAKE ME DANCE
LRICS DON'T BUMP IN THE TRUNK
LYRICS AIN'T POPPIN IN THE CLUB

plus the average female listener don't wanna hear that bullshit

the whole world ain't hip hop heads, some people, MOST people, just want to hear MUSIC they can feel

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:05:32 GMT

@518: Battle rapper? Come on pimp. Thats like sayin "you aint no real dope boy if you aint standin on tha corner". We elevated from that to being able to make a real song. Battle rap? How bout battle songs? How bout tha nigga Biggie droppin "get money" and this nigga droppin "hit em Up" the next week? NO NIGGA WANTED WIT PAC! The nigga gave the whole genre the "Hush mouf". I aint forgot shit. I remember most niggaz being afraid to address him by name in songs. I remember him dissin everybody by name, from LL, B.I.G, Nas, Jay Z, Mobb Deep whoever he thought might want some. How u gone battle rap wit a nigga when u scared ta say his name?

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SeanJohn81 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:05:58 GMT

@quisee
sean_johnson81@hotmail.com

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Knowl — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:06:20 GMT

ZRO_Coldest said:
518 said
No stage, props or nuffin...

So if you had some one like Pun or Big or Buddens or Andre 3000 or Crooked and they wanted to battle line for line?

_________________
em
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Sorry kids, I'm getting Pun (And not cause he's from the Bronx)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAB6MkJ1src

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:07:51 GMT

...Rumor has it, George Bush will pardon Micheal Vick. I also heard he’s going to pre-pardon himself and Dick Cheney. SMH.

****************************
WOW ... A Pre-Pardon ! And thats pimping

I wonder if he's going to get X and OJ off too ... I mean, I mean

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:09:59 GMT

shawty lo>>>>>>>>>>>>cory gunz

gucci mane>>>>>>>>>>cory gunz

memphis bleek>>>>>>>>cory gunz

plies>>>>>>>>>>cory gunz

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:10:21 GMT

@Kappagem - LMBO, i did that just to see if you said that. Don't worry, it was a joke. :-) i told you i stink @ comedy.

And i'm just messing around with Knowl and Davy. I'm not signing up for this wk's beef!!! :-) (attempt @ humor yet again) lol.
Big up again fellas.

@IamMcfly - i feel you. Makes sense. I happen to have some that isn't like that. But you're right, the're out there. Kind of double standard. peace for answering.

@hot - that's what's up, family affair. I'd hook you up with those cold activated joints but you said a while back we can't ever watch a game, lol. Pat's all day, i feel you though. Indy is sneaking up for real, and you hear me always saying if they make the playoffs i'm going to be aggravated. How about i don't answer the phones or bell?

I actually like some joints on that Joe Budden's mix. boo to me heh? lol.

THERE IS NO GREATEST. THEY WERE AND ALL WILL CONTINUE TO BE GREAT. COSIGN THE WHOLE BOARD. :-)

one

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Just_Rude — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:10:25 GMT

SeanJohn81 said:
@Just_Rude
I smell another SuperBowl, last weeks lost served as our wake up call and we really needed it. We gotta smash Dallas and keep them out of the playoffs now, it's hard 2 beat a team 3 times in a year....
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we don't have to worry about dallas this year.. cause just like the last couple of years IF they make it to the playoffs there going home in the first round.. but they have to get past atlanta to even get in to the playoffs ...

as for anything else..we needed a week off .. so we gave them eagles the game ...(Lioness DO NOT READ THIS PART) don't want to do like new england did last year smash out the whole season to lose in the big game..

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:11:01 GMT

@ hotnuknowit ... Borders, so leave ya good purse in the car in case it jumps off ... I'm trying to get Finding Forever and some other stuff. (:-)

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:12:01 GMT

Quiseebaby said:
IAmMcFly said:
Well to put all this in perspective about the MC'in...

It's a known fact that NIGGAS DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!!!

For example, I don't understand homosexuality so I don't like it.
I don't understand eating escargots (snails, a delicacy to some) so I don't like it. So when niggas say (and believe me they do) Boosie is better than Jay-Z or Nas just goes to show that that individual is not capable of understanding or willing to learn the English language
********************

REAL SHIT!!!! U A 10000000% right!!! A while back me and a nig i grew up was discussing this shit cause nigs ALWAYS think all i fucks with is East Coast shit, when thats ffaaaarrrr from the truth. 2 of my top 5 aint from the East but we was going back and fourth about how Gucci is better then Jay-Z right now and he was saying Webbie CD better then Nas latest shit. Im like nigga is u smoking???....he was high tho, but he meant what he was saying. Im a lil more worldly i guess. THERE's NO WAY people can say certain people is better unless u dont get what u hearing and I like Shawty Lo and Gucci and some of them type of rappers, but I KNOW they aint lyrical killers or nothing. I know they aint artist or nothing. I know they AINT MC's. They are niggas who I find entertaining and thats a difference. U a never hear me say "oowwww did u hear what Gucci just said???"

" My flesh, no nigga could test, my soul is posessed by the Evils,
in the form of diamonds and lexus's,
the exorcist, got me doing sticks, like
homie u dont know me but the whole world owe me strip!,
Was taught to be a pleasant guy all my fuckin life,
but now Im down for whatever aint nothing nice,
through out my junior high days it was all friendly,
but now the higher learning got the remy in me,
liquors.. envading my kidneys,
got me ready to lick off father forgive me,
I cant be held accountable, the evils beating me down boo,
got me running wit guys, making G's, telling lies that sound true,
come test me, I never cowar,
for the love of money son Im giving led showers,
close your eyes u know the demons says its best to die,
and even if Jahova witnessed, but he'll never testify.."

THATS THAT SHIT! Did u hear what he said?? Do u see all the double meanings?? Did u see how he put that together?? Thats a MC and a nigga like Gucci, Lo, Bootsie or even 2Pac could NEVER do that.
December 11, 2008 12:58 PM

^^^^^^^^^The fact you put Pac in the same sentence with Gucci, Lo, and Boosie actually makes this whole "argument" a mute point...

Another line Jay-Z, S. Carter once said...

"And y'all buy the shit, caught up in the hype
Cause the nigga wear a coofie, it don't mean that he bright
Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice
It just means you don't understand all the bullshit that he write"

yeah, he was obviously beefin' with Nas when he wrote that, BUT STILL, it doesn't de-edify a point he was making...

Just because some cat has super duper double meanings and hidden agendas with his word play DON'T MEAN HE NICE.

I'm not saying what you threw up above wasn't slick (it was:), and Jay was a beast on that entire album (Jay's one of the greatest, IMO).

But Jay had MORE than just being slick with the wordplay is my point. He's an ARTIST...PERIOD. Like PAC. It's funny, because even the JAY's of the world had/have more respect for Pac than folks on here...

Oh, and your boy needs to quit smoking that ish comparing Gucci or Webbie or whomever to Jay. had to say that:)

wwwwwwwooooooowwwwwwwwww

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Haughville — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:15:32 GMT

hotnuknowit said:
Haughville said:
say...did i make anybody check their calendars? lol
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I don't know bout them but I was over here like "huh?" LOL
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lol, what it is homey? that was my reflex test....remember them? think fast! i hear y'all freezin' up top?

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:16:59 GMT

@ Kappa- Damn I completely forgot about Maino....(which in case proves a point that he's not shit to even remember) but damn glad you brought him up.

Maino. A nigga who tries to ride the 50 Cent train a little to late and quite as well. 50 got shot 9 times, Maino gets a buck 50 across the face.
50 actually engages in fisticuffs with top rapper at the time Ja Rule, Maino smacks up Lil' Cease & top rapper right now Yung Berg (LOL) see the similarities? I could go on and on...

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:17:09 GMT

Lemme clarify something real quick...

BUDDEN IS A BEAST!

he just needs to make a good album...period.

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Knowl said:
ZRO_Coldest said:
518 said
No stage, props or nuffin...

So if you had some one like Pun or Big or Buddens or Andre 3000 or Crooked and they wanted to battle line for line?

_________________
em
-----------------------
Sorry kids, I'm getting Pun (And not cause he's from the Bronx)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAB6MkJ1src

^^^^^^^Battle, like face to face, some of those cats are beasts! I'm not gonna "front" on that.

Don't mean they all make dope albums (Pun, I give him his, only out of respect for his wordplay and ability to be both street and smooth, kinda like BIG). But I wasn't on Pun like that...

Pun, Buddens, 3000, Crooked I - They wouldn't want to battle Pac with SONGS. hell, even BIG avoided it, and he had a good right NOT too.

And quietly, as much as I like BIG, I felt a little pissed with the subliminal shots at a dead man.

But I digress...

I'm arguing a mute point because in ya'lls hearts ya'll all know Pac is in your Top 10 minimal...whether you admit it or not (lol)

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:17:38 GMT

@kapp- you have me crying over here, "followed up with "maino" (wiping eyes out).

@ the board, i know all of these guys ya'll going back and forth about, seeing i'm @ a cross, tell me whose the hottest UNDERGROUND MC/GROUP?

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clittle23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:18:29 GMT

DANG. JEEZY got me crunk. I gotta get to the studio ASAP. Katt Williams just spit some real ISH about the Brat......JD you need to go see her. That is way wrong.

FREE MIKE VICK

www.myspace.com/bluecstacy

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:18:29 GMT

@518: Think bout how a flash light works. It sheds light on whatever u aimin it at. Everythingelse is still gone be in darkness. I say that to say this, the light is on the South right now. This exposes both, our greatest and worst. But my nigga just cause the rest of the map is in the dark dont mean that the same kinda fuckery aint goin on where you live.Just aint no light be shined on yall for the world to see.

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:18:51 GMT

Ken_P said:
shawty lo>>>>>>>>>>>>cory gunz

gucci mane>>>>>>>>>>cory gunz

memphis bleek>>>>>>>>cory gunz

plies>>>>>>>>>>cory gunz

^^^^^^Don't get Saluate started...please don't!

Even tho he do put up similar ridiculous >>>>>>>>>>> as this one!!!

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Knowl — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:18:57 GMT

SeanJohn81 said:
@Knowl
What's poppin big brother? Can you shoot me a few links to check out some of your tracks. I want to see how your personality meets the artist side of you???
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Dun, just click on my name. it'll take you right to my myspace page and you can hear my joints

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Quiseebaby — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:20:09 GMT

@ Kappa
Thats all im saying. If somebody says Pac is one of the best ARTIST? I have no issues.. Rapper?? na.... Artist he there with all of em

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:21:30 GMT

Books belong in Borders... They wont fit in my cd player.

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:22:11 GMT

Killa2thaB said:
@518: Battle rapper? Come on pimp. Thats like sayin "you aint no real dope boy if you aint standin on tha corner". We elevated from that to being able to make a real song. Battle rap? How bout battle songs? How bout tha nigga Biggie droppin "get money" and this nigga droppin "hit em Up" the next week? NO NIGGA WANTED WIT PAC! The nigga gave the whole genre the "Hush mouf". I aint forgot shit. I remember most niggaz being afraid to address him by name in songs. I remember him dissin everybody by name, from LL, B.I.G, Nas, Jay Z, Mobb Deep whoever he thought might want some. How u gone battle rap wit a nigga when u scared ta say his name?

^^^^^^Thank you:)

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Texas_Playa said:
ok imma take the approach of the AVERAGE listener

FUCK YO LYRICS NIGGA!!!!!!

LYRICS DON'T MAKE ME DANCE
LRICS DON'T BUMP IN THE TRUNK
LYRICS AIN'T POPPIN IN THE CLUB

plus the average female listener don't wanna hear that bullshit

the whole world ain't hip hop heads, some people, MOST people, just want to hear MUSIC they can feel

^^^^^I won't go this far, but I actually know where you coming from Texas Playa.

Pac said it best...

Make the music for the b*tches (wrong word, but he did say it), and the niccahs will jock you too. It's entertainment folks.

NOT knocking the lyrics, because I actually like some purpose to the music, but reference what Killa said earlier...

and I quote in it's entirety:

"Sayin a rapper is "Extra Lyrical" is like callin b-baller a excellent dribbler. Thats only one facet to the game. How many "and1" niggaz make it to the league?"

End quote:)

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:23:18 GMT

If if I couldnt ride round listenin to your beat by itself, what make u think U jumpin on it is gone change sumthin?

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:24:15 GMT

Dacatsmeow - how goes it today? I see you and hot talking about books again. :-) Just to respond to yesterday about Zane, I have OCD, unfortunately, sometimes it works against me. If i've bought or read 1 book by someone, i end up ordering or finding the book somehow. :-) Obsessive isn't even a correct discription.

@justrude - I humbly take that shot!! It hurt real bad, and i fell out cause that's like a part of sports history. We ain't living that down. :-( real talk.

Dallas is done, i repeat, they've left the bldg. You hear Tony Ohoh, giving excuses as to why he's making those errant throws?

that hurt for real rude, lol

bless up

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mu$h da great — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:25:25 GMT

I don't care what nobody says webbie - savage life..... that 1st one .....that shit goes hard.....

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:26:25 GMT

Quiseebaby said:
@ Kappa
Thats all im saying. If somebody says Pac is one of the best ARTIST? I have no issues.. Rapper?? na.... Artist he there with all of em

^^^^I say one of the greatest rappers too. Not battle rapper, not lyricist, but RAPPER. The goal is to get your point across artistically, right? Pac put poetry to paper, and poetry doesn't have to have every word in the sentence match up to every word in the next sentence with double and quadruple meanings:).

I almost think cats feel smarter because they were able to figure out what someone meant when that lyric was spit, so they put 40 different meanings behind what they mans said...

But if you get the point across and it sounds dope, it's dope. Besides, that time spent trying to "study" what the dude said could have been spent better picking up a book (like The Art of War) or what not...Put knowledge to purpose..

IMO...

And I like slick word play...I just don't confuse it for being a good artist.

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Five18p — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:28:22 GMT

Killa2thaB said:
518: Im'a be right back! My habit is stronger than my need to defend my hood. But dont u go no where nigga.lol
====================

hahaha

I'll be right here nigga, ole fuckin fiend you!...stay off that shit! lol

@McFly
man I'm glad to see someone from the souf say that shit dude.

Shit is ridiculous, and it ain't just about making dance music or goodtime music, cuz wit all the trouble it's good to chill and have fun.

But the shit they doing is on some foul shit....

Got Soulja Girl spazzin out on ole earth's and shit.

Oh and McFly, you damn right, Papoose is trash, I knew that the first time I heard him do a song about the alphabet...garbage.

@Mu$h
ayo son, I could do the humpty dance backwards...shit was live...I used to kill em in the 8ight grade wit dat lol, then break into the running man?...word?...killin em!

@Kappy
@Ken P

wuts wrong wit y'all?

Well Ken P is a flaming homosexual thug ho dresses up in Eddie Bauer so I guess that answers him...haha *shotz fired*

but Kappy and Ken

"But what I'm saying is they wouldn't want it with Pac on record. Yeah, they slick with the wordplay and all that. Half these niccahs say they don't write shyt down anymore...AND THAT's THEY'RE PROBLEM! "

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Look here y'all cant change the subject title

Buddens (ole youtube ass) said was talking about Pac as an emcee.

Like I said in the essence of emceeing is the ability to battle line for line...

You cant then go say, well Pac could kill them on an album or on stage.

you said Pac moved a crowd better? you right...

But what if it was a small group of hiphop heads Budden would get way more love than someone story telling about how the hood is fucked up.

Yeah Pac was one of the best rappers out, but it wasn't because of his lyrical skillz.

Y'all stop fronting

again I ask you

Redman
Black Thought
Pun
Big
Crooked
Pharohe
Andre 3000
Nas
Luda
Slum Village
Phonte
Snoop

all these dudes plus some would body Pac word for word and y'all knows that.

If they battled like back in the day when "emcees" existed in it's purest form with out, ring tones and mtv just 2 turntables and a mic?....

Pac would get his ass whooped and y'all know it.

Stop fronting

I know he ya man but damn, he wasn't the greatest spitta

Period

who else got another angle they wanna throw at me?

I'll wait......

518p-

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:30:11 GMT

DaCatsMeow said:
@ hotnuknowit ... Borders, so leave ya good purse in the car in case it jumps off ... I'm trying to get Finding Forever and some other stuff. (:-)
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Did we say we were reading Finding Forever? I thought that was a novella....might go to the library on that one. I need my pages...
Borders? If I can do it online I will.....I don't feel like explaining to them that "LaShonda's Corner" is mine again....thats that bull that LaShonda got a corner! I'm the best buyer for they asses....plus I always tell them what to order, fuck it I'm goin to the store for my check cause they owe!

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:30:26 GMT

lionesse23 said:
THERE IS NO GREATEST. THEY WERE AND ALL WILL CONTINUE TO BE GREAT.

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What it dew dew ???

And co sign to above ... Anyone can get it in a battle, any day of the week and it does not make you less great, it just means you took a L .... The GREATS of today are not GREATER than the ones that came before them.

BUT Jigga is ONE OF THE GREATEST. And Pac is in a undebateable catagory (JMO) it's like asking whos better Jodeci or the Isleys (yeah I said it)

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:32:34 GMT

Haughville said:
hotnuknowit said:
Haughville said:
say...did i make anybody check their calendars? lol
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I don't know bout them but I was over here like "huh?" LOL
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lol, what it is homey? that was my reflex test....remember them? think fast! i hear y'all freezin' up top?
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Freezin it is....had to pull the fur out & let PETA come my way if they want....I'mma be wearin they ass! Shiiiit ya'll know I got Indian in my family....

@Lionesse.....I said no Colts vs Pats....any other game is safe! LOL

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Just_Rude — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:32:53 GMT

IAmMcFly said:
@ Quisee- So you mean to tell me when Shawty Lo said " Call me DunDun cause I done done it all" or "He say he from the WestSide, well it must be 2 sides" ain't make you hit the rewind button? Nigga you crazy!!!! Phenomenal lyricism at it finest
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Are you serious ..SHAWTY LO ?????? that dude is TRASH!!!!!!!!!!!

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:33:42 GMT

mu$h da great said:
I don't care what nobody says webbie - savage life..... that 1st one .....that shit goes hard.....
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Yeah it do....

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Knowl — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:33:57 GMT

@Kappa I thought you wasn't gonna do a pAC ARGUMENT?? LOL Oh well. what's good?
@Sean you click on there yet? if not here it is again www.myspace.com/knowledge

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Five18p — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:34:10 GMT

damn that flood gates?

say Pac cant rap and you niggas got tons of stuff to say...

haha, give me a minute to digest all these post hold up....

"I soon come"

518p-

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:35:23 GMT

@Mu$h - I actually liked that 1st one by Webbie. I still got that. Like I said...I listen to ALL areas...

I think folks were just saying comparing Webbie to Jay ain't fare....to Webbie:0)

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:36:22 GMT

@dacatsmeow- THE ISLEYS no doubt. :-) (JMO)figured that one out easily. (bfg would be proud, lol) i'm still getting my chat lingo on, lol.

but i don't want to digress from what the board is talking about, just had to answer that , :-)

what it do 518P?

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:37:30 GMT

@518: I been back. Im just twistin up breakfast right now.(I swear, I wanna stop.) Anyway, I left you a couple comments already. Catch up nigga (insert tire squealin sound here)

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MR.100STACKZ — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:38:05 GMT

SKILLZ KILLED DA BUST YA WINDOWS REMIX

YO SKILLZ WHERE DA 08 WRAP-UP AT????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

FREE OJ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:39:42 GMT

silkk the shocker>>>>>>>>>joe budden

crunchy black>>>>>>>>>>joe budden

mike jones>>>>>>>>>>>>joe budden

souljah boy>>>>>>>>>>>joe budden

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:39:47 GMT

...wait, did U say Snoop?

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Nex Gin — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:40:48 GMT

Killa2thaB said:
Sayin a rapper is "Extra Lyrical" is like callin b-baller a excellent dribbler. Thats only one facet to the game. How many "and1" niggaz make it to the league?

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Real Talk.....this and what you said about alotta East coast rappers and the tracks they pick. Not only the tracks, but the lyrical content is at the point where, if I was blindfolded, I couldn't tell 1 artist from the next. A lot of 'em are saying the same shit everybody else saying (gunz, drugs, kill kill, etc, etc)....or they duping the south ...just but w/ that East Coast flavor. Lyrical content and beats are big on my list. I can't even dig supa lyrical cats if they aren't saying shit worthwhile.....ie...Corey Gunz. He nice lyrically, but what the fuck is he really saying?

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:41:21 GMT

Chino XL said his name to no avail (I swear to God, i dont be tryna make this rhyme).

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:43:23 GMT

Hot - that's what's up, and i never come empty handed so we good. :-)

Knowl said:
@Kappa I thought you wasn't gonna do a pAC ARGUMENT?? LOL Oh well. what's good?
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and i quote Kapp:

"Oh...

And I apologize for touching the Tupac convo...I'm a Gemini...we can't help but contradict ourselves:0)

Twin action "

he atoned for it beforehand. lol

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:43:22 GMT

@ 518p gay ass- i dont even think pac concentrated on trying to be a great emcee...i think he put his focus on touching the world...

in some old interviews wit the outlawz they said the nigga pac used to do shit in one take...if he fucked up he would keep going and wouldnt rerecord...that tell me right there he was more interested on getting his point out there more so than a clean delivery...

@ hotnuknowiwannaservekenp- i see you like webbie...he aight though...what city you from???

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:43:40 GMT

lionesse23 said:
Dacatsmeow - how goes it today? I see you and hot talking about books again. :-) Just to respond to yesterday about Zane, I have OCD, unfortunately, sometimes it works against me. If i've bought or read 1 book by someone, i end up ordering or finding the book somehow. :-) Obsessive isn't even a correct discription.
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Lionesse....back to the Zane thang....have you ever tried any of her "missions"? & did you agree that women with Zane books are more likely to "give it on up"?

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:43:46 GMT

@ JustRude- Stop fronting, so you wasn't feeling Lil' Boosie when he said "Famous like the Ninja Turtles, smokin' on da purple"? LMAO, lemme stop before niggas actually think I believe this shit

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:44:44 GMT

@Knowl: I aint talkin bout you dred. Im talkin bout yo next door neighbor and the nigga who live cross tha street. Tell em if they just benchin & doin curls that they gone get mis-proportioned.

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:45:09 GMT

Five18p said:
damn that flood gates?

say Pac cant rap and you niggas got tons of stuff to say...

haha, give me a minute to digest this dick im currently munching on hold up....

"he will soon come"
______________
what the fuck???

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Just_Rude — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:46:29 GMT

lionesse23 said:
@justrude - I humbly take that shot!! It hurt real bad, and i fell out cause that's like a part of sports history. We ain't living that down. :-( real talk.

Dallas is done, i repeat, they've left the bldg. You hear Tony Ohoh, giving excuses as to why he's making those errant throws?

that hurt for real rude, lol

bless up
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i told you not to read it ... lol... i know how you feel about your pats..

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:47:42 GMT

lionesse23 said:
@dacatsmeow- THE ISLEYS no doubt. :-) (JMO)figured that one out easily. (bfg would be proud, lol) i'm still getting my chat lingo on, lol.

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@ Loinesse ... that was on the hypothetical.... cant even compare them .... to me thats puttin J and Webbie in the same conversation .... with out the ONE there could be no second to come.

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:48:21 GMT

good morning ladies.

fellas.

lioness do you remember what you asked me yesterday?
if so, i'll answer you now.

doe a fella what's hannin good bruhva.

keelab,

i was this close to obliteratin that shit you said about a master of ceremonie's words -- his lyrics -- being equivalent to dribbling.

but then i saw some backwoods dudes talking about if they gotta pull out a dictionary they don't want the music.

or something like that.

so to that i say
"don't nobody, nobody fuck wif ma kitchen"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCil-kLGkvc

i'll let you zombies wander.
go head and rock.

what else can be said at this point?

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:49:17 GMT

Texas_Playa said:
ok imma take the approach of the AVERAGE listener

FUCK YO LYRICS NIGGA!!!!!!

LYRICS DON'T MAKE ME DANCE
LRICS DON'T BUMP IN THE TRUNK
LYRICS AIN'T POPPIN IN THE CLUB

plus the average female listener don't wanna hear that bullshit

the whole world ain't hip hop heads, some people, MOST people, just want to hear MUSIC they can feel

___________________________

age?

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:49:37 GMT

@518 - we'll agree to disagree...

You and Ken P crack me up with ya'lls homo jokes! Ya'll wild...

But we'll agree to disagree...

In fact, it's actually not even cool to be comparing and saying Pac wouldn't want it with them, because you really don't know...

I have YET to see half the cats you threw up there in a CYPHER my dayum self. that's an assumption, not FACT:)

Oh, and an emcee is SUPPOSED to move the crowd. Now we gettin' super technical - Pac in a group of people doing a cypher vs. Pac on stage moving the crowd. Come on man...

Ya'll like to go to places online and find reasons or examples...here you go:
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Emcee Webster definition - Master of Ceromonies

Emcee urban definition - 1. emcee noun; Ehm-Cee.

Derived from the original abbreviation "MC," now used as the generic term for anyone who speaks over a beat, or performs songs that could be termed "hip-hop." Afrika Bambaataa and his contemporaries at the Universal Zulu Nation were the first to exemplify this term.
Originated as a term for the only individual at a party who could speak on the microphone while the DJ (Disk Jockey) was looping the hook or the beat. Various individuals claim that MC stands for the following:

1: Master of Ceremonies, generally the speaker presiding over a formal gathering, or the host of a Jamaican gameshow.

2: Move the Crowd. Originally proclaimed by the legendary emcee Rakim (of the group Eric B. and Rakim) on his 1986 urban hit "Eric B. Is President;" to Rakim, an MC was any rapper who was able to control the crowd that he was presiding over.

3: Microphone Controller.

4: Mic Checka

Et cetera.
1b: "The term, MC, stand for Master of Ceremonies" - A Tribe Called Quest, Midnight Marauders

2: "To me, M.C. means Move the Crowd" - Rakim, Eric B. Is President

2. MC (Master of Ceremonies), a lyricist, Rapper. Considered by most to be more than just an ordinary rapper. A step above just a rapper an emcee not only writes great lyrics, but also rocks the stage equally well. one who raps with skill.

I don't get where he wasn't a great MC, EMCEE, or whatever you want to call it:)
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@Killa - There is MAD KNOWLEDGE in books. I hope your "books don't fit in my cd player" was some sarcasm. Would hate to think brothas and sistas on here aren't gettin that good knowledge that is attained in books. Like they said...

"How do you keep something from a ni**er? Put it in a book"

That's an OLD, but TRUE form of how they have dumbed us down in society. Powers that be know that.

White kids are APPLAUDED for being smart, while OUR kids are called squares, L7's, and made fun of. I was the smart kid who hung out with nerds, jocks, and street niggas. I didn't want street niggas to even know I was pullin a 3.8/4.0 in high school. Real talk....was like ashamed of that sh*t.

Now all my homeys that were street niggas are either dead, in jail, or strung out on crack. Only fellas who did anything with sports or education are doing okay, and dayum near all the nerds are six figure plus earners.
We gotta do better by our people by reading and spreading knowledge.

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:50:19 GMT

@Nex: The nigga Lord Tariq (Lord Tariq & Peter Gunz), used to have the lil nigga Corey doin drills. He would make him memorize otha niggaz raps, then gradually speed em up. It taught the lil muthafucka some ridiculous breath control. Imagine being able to spit otha niggaz verses word for word with the record being sped up. You right though subject matter is essential.

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Just_Rude — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:51:36 GMT

IAmMcFly said:
@ JustRude- Stop fronting, so you wasn't feeling Lil' Boosie when he said "Famous like the Ninja Turtles, smokin' on da purple"? LMAO, lemme stop before niggas actually think I believe this shit
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LMAO.. i thought you was serious for a second there ...bout to have me like you off your rocker ...

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:52:35 GMT

Texas_Playa said:
ok imma take the approach of the AVERAGE listener

FUCK YO LYRICS NIGGA!!!!!!

LYRICS DON'T MAKE ME DANCE
LRICS DON'T BUMP IN THE TRUNK
LYRICS AIN'T POPPIN IN THE CLUB

plus the average female listener don't wanna hear that bullshit
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In all honesty, why even listen to rap in the 1st place if you don't want no lyrics. Shit, you might as ride just blast those old ass bullshit ass Mannie Fresh instrumentals all your life. Secondly, the average female listener listens to songs about suckin' dick, getting nuts busted in the throat & face and bussin' it open. I'm sorry, but I can't respekanize that shit. Why would I wanna listen to that shit? Ain't nobody finna do that shit to me so it doesn't move me!

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:53:08 GMT

@Ken_P.....I like alot of artists from everywhere, never been a "coast rider" but I'm in Indianapolis...

How about I just read an article that said McCauly Caulkin's sister (29) was hit by a car out in LA? Let me just say that them LA drivers do NOT play! They are the only place where I have saw signs that say "pedestians watch for cars".....I never saw those signs anywhere else!

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:53:45 GMT

........Now Im at ease. whatelse yall wanna talk bout?

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Knowl — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:54:10 GMT

DaCatsMeow said:
lionesse23 said:
THERE IS NO GREATEST. THEY WERE AND ALL WILL CONTINUE TO BE GREAT.

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What it dew dew ???

And co sign to above ... Anyone can get it in a battle, any day of the week and it does not make you less great, it just means you took a L .... The GREATS of today are not GREATER than the ones that came before them.

BUT Jigga is ONE OF THE GREATEST. And Pac is in a undebateable catagory (JMO) it's like asking whos better Jodeci or the Isleys (yeah I said it)
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Isleys hands down. Jodeci are Good, the Isleys are Great!!!!!!!

lionesse23 said:
Hot - that's what's up, and i never come empty handed so we good. :-)

Knowl said:
@Kappa I thought you wasn't gonna do a pAC ARGUMENT?? LOL Oh well. what's good?
-----------------------------------------------
and i quote Kapp:

"Oh...

And I apologize for touching the Tupac convo...I'm a Gemini...we can't help but contradict ourselves:0)

Twin action "

he atoned for it beforehand. lol
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That's true. Ok Kappa ya off the Hook

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mr.201973 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:54:46 GMT

I-IGHT!

http://www.amalgamdigital.com/artist-details.aspx?id=2119

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:55:22 GMT

How bout put these in order for me. Coolest rappers EVER! Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick & Snoop.

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Knowl — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:55:49 GMT

Killa2thaB said:
@Knowl: I aint talkin bout you dred. Im talkin bout yo next door neighbor and the nigga who live cross tha street. Tell em if they just benchin & doin curls that they gone get mis-proportioned
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LOL OK

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:56:55 GMT

Haystak>>>>>>>>>2Pac

B-Rich>>>>>>>>>>2Pac

Coo Coo Cal>>>>>>>>>>>2Pac

Koopsta Knicca>>>>>>>>>>2Pac

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:57:03 GMT

hotnuknowit said:
lionesse23 said:
Dacatsmeow - how goes it today? I see you and hot talking about books again. :-) Just to respond to yesterday about Zane, I have OCD, unfortunately, sometimes it works against me. If i've bought or read 1 book by someone, i end up ordering or finding the book somehow. :-) Obsessive isn't even a correct discription.
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Lionesse....back to the Zane thang....have you ever tried any of her "missions"? & did you agree that women with Zane books are more likely to "give it on up"?

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Good question Alex !!!! HMMMMMMM "Missions" ? HUH

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:57:24 GMT

@Anna Mae: You just gone walk right past me like it aint shit huh?

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Five18p — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:58:35 GMT

Ayo

y'all awright?

weather gettin to summa y'all?

you nigga's is certifiable really

can you see how many fingers I got up?

it's only one and it ain't the index....

Ayo why y'all making up ya own rules....

Again it's simple like 2+2 (which equals 4 by the way lol)

Could Pac battle?

HUH?

FUCKING ...................HUH?

Hells naw............c'mon son!

STOP........FUCKIN..........PLAYIN.....

You mufucka's keep talking bout,

"well his albums are dope"
"well his songs are better"
"well I mean...I love the nigga dawg"

I ain't disputing that....who can?

Pac will go down as one of if not the greatest rapper that ever existed.

But to "HIPHOP HEADS"

you remember them/us?

the ones who made Hiphop and emceeing...

The true fans who would huddle around a cipher to hear nigga's spit fiya accapella ....

The dudes that rewind songs cuz we heard some stupid nasty 4 bars that was like whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?

The ones who pack into small local venues and not the big concerts, just to hear they favorite emcee spit.

The ones who paved the way for you dudes to forget what emceeing is really about?

yeah us

PAC AIN'T A GREAT EMCEE.................HANDS FUCKING DOWN.

Like I said....

and I'm waiting for you as Ken P would say "Goat mouf" mufuckas to dispute me.....

If Em, Crooked, Nas or Pun wanted to battle ya group...

and in ya group you had

Pac, Jigga, or Black Thought

who da fuck would you pick?

stop playin

And KillaB

to answer your quesion about "Battle rap" y'all forgettin what emceeing is....

I'm 32 where y'all at?

Emceeing is battling....who forgot that?

When did Emcee's exist with out battling?

And then nigga's did it wit 2 turntables and a mic on stage face to face, or in a park wit a circle of heads, or in a room wit some nigga hittin a beat on a table....

Fuck wrong wit y'all?

we ain't talking rekkids or songs, we talking face to face spitting...

Mr. Shapiro(Pun prolly the illest spitta of all time)
518p-

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 18:59:47 GMT

hotnuknowit said:
@Ken_P.....I like alot of artists from everywhere, never been a "coast rider" but I'm in Indianapolis...

How about I just read an article that said McCauly Caulkin's sister (29) was hit by a car out in LA? Let me just say that them LA drivers do NOT play! They are the only place where I have saw signs that say "pedestians watch for cars".....I never saw those signs anywhere else

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Do you hear ME !!!

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:04:00 GMT

@Knowl - Well, actually, Lionnesse already touched on it (I'm a Gemini, and we do shyt like that:). Plus, I didn't PROMISE. If I said I PROMISE not to go into it, then I don't. I didn't promise.

But, more importantly, I wasn't touching the "best artist of all time" arguments. I was speaking more so on GREAT RAPPERS...and to say Pac WASN'T a great rapper, to ME, is just crazy. Just because YOU don't like someone don't mean he's not good...he's just not good TO YOU. For example...

I'm not a PUN fan. I have his album too...bought it, and was lightweight pissy I paid the $2 I paid for it (I worked at Columbia House at the time, and you could go to their store and buy CD's for like $2 mayne...in the 90's!).

But I was mad I bought it, because I just didn't feel the Latino Biggie. Maybe because I liked BIG already, and Pun just didn't appeal to me.

Doesn't mean he didn't have some hot tracks (I'm not a playa but I crush a lot), or some slick deliveries (packin' the mac in the back of AC).

Didn't mean he wasn't great...just means I personally didn't care for him.

But you've never heard me be on some "Pun wasn't a good rapper...Pun wasn't a great Emcee" type stuff...

Never...

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:06:25 GMT

@ Kapp: My nigga, I was in the gifted program growin up. What ignorant nigga do you know who could make compelling posts like mine? lol The point was, I got a book shelf for my books. I put music in my cd player. To me its a difference. Some of these niggaz need to be releasin those audible books (not cd's).

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Cresent City Connektor — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:06:48 GMT

@Kappagem

From one Gemini to the next...discussin another fellow Gemini (Pac)...I feel ya brother!!!

What up tho...

I need to get the homie JDub (Anotha Nupe) over here on this convo!!!

Sup Mush, Quiseebaby, Killa2thaB and AJ22

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:06:48 GMT

@ Kappa. Don't be afraid. I didn't care for him either. Didn't like hearing him inhale in my ear as he was spittin. That shit was grody to me

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poe — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:07:16 GMT

I just gained a new respect for Diddy.

Michael Vick pardon? I actually hope he gets it & returns to the league. there is no way the commissioner can NOT let him return back. look at Adam Jones & this is coming from a Dallas fan.

http://www.myspace.com/musiqjunkyproductions

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:08:49 GMT

@518 - You funny...

We in the same "era" pimpin, although you got me by a few years...

Don't change the fact emceeing AIN'T JUST BATTLING...

And I'm done with it...

Pun...that's arguable, but I'm done with this for today:) It's almost like talking religion on here...Hip Hop religion, and it's a mute point, because you're just talking about BATTLING.

I'm talking about EMCEEING AKA Move the Crowd. Come on man...The GOD MC HIMSELF SAID IT...and I quote, AGAIN,

"To me, M.C. means Move the Crowd" - Rakim, Eric B. Is President

Done...

Oh, and in that group, I would still take Pac. It ain't like YOU have seen the dude "battle" somebody anyhow...

He ain't have too...niccahs already feared him:)

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:09:01 GMT

Lionesse....back to the Zane thang....have you ever tried any of her "missions"? & did you agree that women with Zane books are more likely to "give it on up.
-----------------------------------------------Now i got my secrets, but i ain't never got my toe stuck in the light socket!! i was crying off you 2 yesterday. No but seriously, i like everthing, i read Grisham, James Patterson, Mary Monroe,Tim Green, Iris Johansen, Sandra Brown, Tami Hoag, Francis Ray, Brenda Jackson, Kay Hooper, VC Andrews, Dean Koontz, Christine Feehan, Daniel Silva, Weber, Dickey, all those other authors that be in black expression's and the list goes on, and on. I'm a mess with it. I NEED HELP!!!

and i know you and dacats gonna have jokes, but i even read those harlequin joints, i get 4 ea a month. I admit, i'm a romance, vampire, suspense/thriller, autobiography, & Erotica addict reader. I even read historical romances. so not ashamed. lol.

And no i don't think if you've read a Zane book, you give it up any faster than if you didn't. You might try some dominatrix mess like i did, (I kid, i kid )

But as women know from the 1st 15 if he has potential for the blessings. :-)

arent I right?

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:11:08 GMT

holla at these dudes, fever.

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Quiseebaby — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:13:25 GMT

@ kappa

Yea I dont over do it..lol. Since I spit I catch it real quick when its done. Like Hov I didnt catch that whole " School talk" on that song for years. He started it off like dont TEST my flesh then went to his Junior High days...then to his Higher Learning meaning college based off the movie and then used the Remy character in how he became angry and crazy but then made it seem like it was the liquor making him like that. That was some thoughtful ART right there. I heard that shit 100's of times before I ever caught that. Even on American Gangster he says slick shit like that Im just now catching

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:13:30 GMT

Lionesse....you was not kidding, I know you wasn't! LOL
I read alot of genres as well...actually started off reading Harlequins at age 9......yeah, too advanced for these clowns cause back then it was graphic! But the only erotica I could vibe with so far are those that Risque has wrote because she actually has storylines. Not jus some ol bang-bang-bang! If some of these men actually read a Zane book......ya'll chicks would be in TROUBLE! LOL

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:14:34 GMT

this is the future for y'all slow pokes who don't even understand your cultures own art.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04o2V2ah5dI

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mu$h da great — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:15:50 GMT

@bp1 - I take your not trying to aquire that new gucci man mixtape...lol....

yall remember no limit soldiers 2, off the compilation? the one where the beat breaks down on mia x & silkks verses.... that shit takes me back to them middle school house party days when you would damn near be fucking dancing with people. lights out, all kinda no limit songs playing back 2 back, everybody amped up, girls sweating there perms out, house damn near like a saugna (spellcheck). 5 niggas tryin to hit one mild or one burner lol. a fight or the police damn near always cuttin shit short ...lol

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fwMdKpDfj80&client=mv-google&gl=US&hl=en&warned=True

@kappagem - lo,l naaw I was just saying....

@ the zane conversation..... I don't me to intrude .... I'm not hip to the books but I have seen that shit on cinemax lol, they lightweight get it in for softcore porn......

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:16:11 GMT

@518: Yeah nigga, I remember that shit. I remember ridin bikes to go get pussy to, I got a car now. Niggaz beat on tables cause they didnt have drum machines at the lunch. Niggaz stood outside in a circle rappin cause they didnt have a stage. Alright, we got all that now. Da fuck is a nigga still beatin on a table for? If you can battle rap, record the shit. So more people than just yo block can hear it.You can still smash a nigga ego wit it. Just more people will hear it. "HIT em UP"

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:17:08 GMT

Killa2thaB said:
@Anna Mae: You just gone walk right past me like it aint shit huh?

************************************
LMAO .... You wasn't putting xtras on that pimp hand I see.

Good Mor'ting Mister... I already know how you doing being that you already had BREAKFAST (I'm Jelly with toast)

NOW go read a book with the hurry up

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:17:20 GMT

@ bp1- you got me dyin mane...but that is the state of hip hop...people dont wanna hear no thought provokin shit...they just want something that slap in they trunk...nice and slow lyrics that they can easily process...and a catchy ass singy songy hook...if you have all that then (in your word)

boom!

you have a hit record these days

@518- like i said earlier...i doubt that pac was the best rapper...but he did have alot of influence...look at all these wannabe pacs runnin around...niggas tryna say they words like him...niggas tryna still his character...his look

but in a lyrical sense nobody really tryna copy him...like say a rakim...pac didnt bring too much to the game in terms of a lyrical standpoint...he aint make niggas up they lyrics

he just brought realness to the entertainment business...nothing more nothing less...ay and im a 80s baby but i know about the essence of true emceeing...was pac a great emcee??? no...but was he a great motivational/inspirational/revolutionary speaker??? yes...great entertainer??? he was aight...great rapper??? yes

@ hotnuknowithinkthatniggakenpistheshit- naptown??? whats the rap scene like there...i dont think i ever heard of any underground rap from outta there

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mu$h da great — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:17:34 GMT

@bp1 - I take your not trying to aquire that new gucci man mixtape...lol....

yall remember no limit soldiers 2, off the compilation? the one where the beat breaks down on mia x & silkks verses.... that shit takes me back to them middle school house party days when you would damn near be fucking dancing with people. lights out, all kinda no limit songs playing back 2 back, everybody amped up, girls sweating there perms out, house damn near like a saugna (spellcheck). 5 niggas tryin to hit one mild or one burner lol. a fight or the police damn near always cuttin shit short ...lol

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fwMdKpDfj80&client=mv-google&gl=US&hl=en&warned=True

@kappagem - lo,l naaw I was just saying....

@ the zane conversation..... I don't me to intrude .... I'm not hip to the books but I have seen that shit a couple times on cinemax lol, they lightweight get it in for softcore porn...... I felt like I needed to share that

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Texas_Playa — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:17:41 GMT

@Zro

older than you playboy, i'm a 70s baby...and like i said, i'm speaking from the average listeners point of view, not mine...i been listening to rap since before most of these dudes were born

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Five18p — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:18:58 GMT

Killa2thaB said:
Sayin a rapper is "Extra Lyrical" is like callin b-baller a excellent dribbler. Thats only one facet to the game. How many "and1" niggaz make it to the league?
=============================

That was a dumb statement KillaB

well in my humble/arrogant opinion it was....

How many facets is to being a quaterback?

many right?....Which one matter the most?...I'll let you answer that.

Yeah it's many facets to emceeing

but again'....

if you face to face wit a nigga, what can you do about it?

Say, awwww got check my album I got some hot shit on it?

nope I don't think you can get away wit that....

It don't matter how tight ya album is or how many rekkids you sold....

If a local nigga snuff you lyrically you are sauce....it's just that simple.

y'all stop fucking around....

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Ken_P said:
@ 518p gay ass- i dont even think pac concentrated on trying to be a great emcee...i think he put his focus on touching the world...
=======================

Ken P you answer the debate right there...besides the "518p gay" part lol

Pac didn't concertate on trying to be a great emcee?

So why y'all expect me to say he was?

huh?

@Kappy
agree to disagree

but on that dictionary shit you put up?

again y'all missing the point...

You just showed the definition of an emcee....

no dispute

but y'all wanna know if Pac was a great emcee?

okay...

example

Ken Dorsey is a quaterback

and

Peyton Manning is a quaterback

They both do the "fundamentals" as required for being a quaterback...

One goes above and beyond!...you tell me which?

Yeah moving the crowd is part of it....

But again, if you want to be considered a great emcee...

You gotta be able to take on any challengers line for line with out a studio behind you.

Jigga and Nas could battle for hours wit just a beat playing in the background.

Pac would lose everyones interest after awhile...

When you got a real emcee lighting yo ass up wit skillz?

c'mon duke...

LIke I said....

It don't matter how many good songs you got, or how many fans or big shows you've done....

If a local nigga from Philly catch you and you battle him and he snuff you, you ain't shit.

@Ken P(enis)
Flattery will get you no where, stop sending me text messages of smiley faces wit hearts on them.

Mr. Shapiro
518p-

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Macgarvin — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:19:04 GMT

Peace to the Gods and Queens of AHH:

@ the Pac convo:

Funny how illseed can spark a debate with one line . . . . . . "Tupac was not a good rapper" . . . . . Joe Budden.

Here's the thing: Tupac is in a class by himself. By far the greatest artist. You can't compare him to anyone in the game . . . . . past, present, or future.

There's a lot of regional bias up in here. Just listen to the music. If you like it cool, if not that's cool too. The same things are being said over and over. Eastcoast (we respect lyrics, that's real hip-hop). The South ( we get the party started). Midwest (we the best of both coasts, we're on the come up). Westcoast (we got that gangsta shit locked - don't need to be super lyrical).

Peep it. Good music is everywhere, you just got to listen for it. Everybody's taste aren't gonna be the same.

@Knowl:

What's good brother? What's your interpretation of "real hip-hop?"

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:21:10 GMT

lionesse23 said:
But as women know from the 1st 15 if he has potential for the blessings. :-)

arent I right?

*******************************
Preach ...Church .. Tabernacle !!!

Whispering "Yeah he can get it" .... thats provided he dont TALK in the 1st 15 minutes ... LMAO

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:21:20 GMT

@lioness - underground ?

_________________

Zro

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:23:24 GMT

@Killa - I'm with you on the audible books too...

My bad...

oh, to answer your question...
In this order...

Big Daddy Kane, Slick Rick & Snoop.

Kane was too smooth. See how he would dance AND rhyme, not get out of breath, and then go snatch up the baddest chick in the vid. Kane was smooth as f*ck.

Slick Rick - The Storyteller..nuff said. I mean, for real, he's like a Godfather to makin' you think about what you listening too...and make it relate....GOOD NIGHT, GOOD NIGHT!

Snoop - Gangsta and a Gentleman. This nigga beat a murder rap (only he, God, and that kid who lost his life know, huh?), got off Tha Row (outside of Dre, who's really a producer, he's the only one who salvaged a true career in hip hop), coach's lil league football, AND smoke's weed on youtube while airing out young crips and lettin' 'em know "I AM THE WEST...NIGGA"...lol

I'd put 'em in that order...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

IAmMcFly said:
Haystak>>>>>>>>>2Pac

B-Rich>>>>>>>>>>2Pac

Coo Coo Cal>>>>>>>>>>>2Pac

Koopsta Knicca>>>>>>>>>>2Pac

^^^^^Aw dayum....I quit! lol....

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Ken_P said:
silkk the shocker>>>>>>>>>joe budden

crunchy black>>>>>>>>>>joe budden

mike jones>>>>>>>>>>>>joe budden

souljah boy>>>>>>>>>>>joe budden

^^^^Stop, ya'll killin' me over here with these!!!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Whattup Cres! yeah, I remember JDub...he disappeared on us.

IAM - Yeah, that breathing shyt used to piss me off too. Like, I mean, maybe people felt that. I always felt like that nigga was spitting on the back of my neck while listening to his album (no homo)

For real...have you seen his live performances? I saw a few where he couldn't really finish the verse because he started breathing hard. No shit! I was like WHAT!? But, I guess that's a true EMCEE (according to 518:)...

DMX has those troubles (due to his asthma and amazing weed/drug habit) as well.

Oh, and Biggie had that happen a few times too...interesting...

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WhoIsPaulPierce — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:23:32 GMT

Hey i'm not even touchin the pac argument

Xzibit is that dude though

Haha Wayne and Bow Wow, Bow Wow looks high, but he's trying to pull it off like he's not..shoulda just rocked the shades like the drug addict Lil Young FUck Weezy

Alright now for this dickheads opinion

Texas_Playa said:
ok imma take the approach of the AVERAGE listener

FUCK YO LYRICS NIGGA!!!!!!

LYRICS DON'T MAKE ME DANCE
LRICS DON'T BUMP IN THE TRUNK
LYRICS AIN'T POPPIN IN THE CLUB

plus the average female listener don't wanna hear that bullshit

the whole world ain't hip hop heads, some people, MOST people, just want to hear MUSIC they can feel
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Of course you are from the south you dick...no disrespect to anyone else from the south on here!! unless you think like this dickhead...Are you a female? While you are shakin your ass in the club bitch nigga. i'm bumpin some canibus, or some immortal technique or some styles p. SOMETHING WITH SUBSTANCE. God damn its a free world but heads like you are what's wrong with the hippity hop. FUCKIN ROBOT PUT ON SOME LYRICS!!!!!

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Just_Rude — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:24:25 GMT

poe said:
I just gained a new respect for Diddy.

Michael Vick pardon? I actually hope he gets it & returns to the league. there is no way the commissioner can NOT let him return back. look at Adam Jones & this is coming from a Dallas fan.
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wow you actually admit your a dallas fan on here...... i'm sorry to hear that...

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:29:15 GMT

DaCatsMeow said:
lionesse23 said:
But as women know from the 1st 15 if he has potential for the blessings. :-)

arent I right?

*******************************
Preach ...Church .. Tabernacle !!!

Whispering "Yeah he can get it" .... thats provided he dont TALK in the 1st 15 minutes ... LMAO
***********************************************
....let's raise tha offerin!

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:29:28 GMT

mush, naw good brother.
i can't listen to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5v-GVhLRME

go to 1:25.

and listen to this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Yh97DpmMt0&feature=related

and then go listen to any of that gucci man product.
i leave that to the others.

ken what up.
i ain't lyin, man.

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Five18p — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:30:26 GMT

I'm trying Blidack

I don't think they see the point...

it's many angles to emceeing, but it you call someone a great emcee expect them to break down the key fundamentals of being great and call you on it.

Dont tell me a Point Guard is great if the nigga cant shoot the 3!

be like

"but look at how he dribble and distribute the rock"

fuck dat, he cant do the single most important thing at his position.

Nigga's like who was scared of Pac?

Biggie wasn't....

Redman would've battle dat nigga

Mobb Deep dissed his ass back

C'mon, y'all nigga's didn't even love Pac till around 93'

I got a new word

"respekanize"

Shouts out to McFly

Ima used that shit for now on if you don't mind homie.

518p-

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:31:08 GMT

@518: Easy greasy. U been makin dumb ass statements all day but I aint came outta pocket @ U. Soak it up nigga. If a quarter back only concerned bout one aspect of his game, then the only place he gone be playin is on Thanksgivin in the back yard @ his grandmama house. You think these muthafuckas is rappin cause they wanna be famous on their block?

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:31:22 GMT

@ Hot and Loiness Re:Zane .... thats my problem with her too she is just too far fetched ... AND there is no story .. you meet, fuck and bounce ... The encounters she writes about would never happen in real life ... And she heavy on that domanatix tip too ... suspect to saythe least.

Risque is what it is for now and Noire (G-Spot was the shit) really had up until Thug-a-liscious, she almost bounced back with Thong on Fire, but is she has one more dog (4 legged) in a scene I'm have the Humane Society at her door to see whats really good.

@ mush ... LMAO @ "lightweight get it in"

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:32:13 GMT

@ Kappa- LMAO at Pun spittin' on your neck. I felt kinda gay for listening to him...like he was whispering disgusting nothings in my ear.

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M. Burmy — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:32:24 GMT

What I wanna know is why hasn't Trick Trick or anybody in his camp been arrested yet.

That is ROBBERY WITH THREAT OF FORCE-in my state, he'd be doing 7 in the pokey...but he's still going out on tour with it.

My new sig is:

FREE BELO! LOCK UP TRICK TRICK!

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:33:08 GMT

@518, and I'll end mines...

Nobody "snuffed" Pac, so you are talking in "what ifs" now...

But there's no denying his talent...

next:)

~~~~~~~~~~~

@dacatsmeow - I feel so bad for saying this...

but...

Purrrrrrrrrrr, just a lil bit. I feel like you throwing the Pinky up while you sip on that drank...

i'm just saying....

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I see BP1 slid thru...I already know how he feels on these debates.

I'ma peep that youtube on the phone real quick (blocked at work).

I still find it funny tho that the same people who on here talking about what kind of a rapper Pac was, and yet, he's YA'LLS FAVORITE RAPPER'S FAVORITE RAPPER HALF THE TIME!

LMAO!!!

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Quiseebaby — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:33:11 GMT

@ Lionesse23

Underground...

Me and my niggas!!!...... Thats not being cocky just my honest opinion..

Other then us, Royce, Bump J (now in jail like a motha tho..) and a nig on the West Coast named CROOKED I

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:33:58 GMT

i bet you dudes can't even name the albums in paul pierce's avi.

i'll help you.

nas illmatic
gza - liquid swords
rae - cuban linx
tribe - low end theory
pete rock and c.l. smooth - mecca and the soul brother
mobb - the infamous

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Nex Gin — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:34:24 GMT

@Lyrical Discussion
The problem w/ a lot of lyrically talented artists is that they can't make a song for shit. The ability to translate that talent into a cohesive, meaningful piece of work is an art in itself. There is a time and a place for showing off raw metaphorical, lyrical ability, but it can get boring over the course of an entire album. Give me a song or two. If you can't incorporate that lyrical ability into telling a story, explaining a concept, analyzing life, making a club joint, etc, etc....how good are you really? You're nothing more than a bunch of punch lines and metaphors. That's good for battling or being braggadocious, but it alienates the listeners who look to music for a FEELING outside of "woooah did you hear what that dude said". Maybe I'm getting old. Maybe I've been spoiled by artists who are multi-dimensional w/ their shit. Good artists can incorporate meaning with their talent. Please don't get me wrong.....I grew up on a lot of that shit and I still bump it....still love it. Its just not my #1 preference anymore. Just my opinion though.

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:35:54 GMT

Five18p said:

@Lioness-
Flattery will get you no where, stop sending me text messages of smiley faces wit hearts on them. You know I'm gay. Please don't ruin my situation with B Braze.

Mr. Shapiro
518p-
________________
what the fuck???

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:36:15 GMT

Dre did say it best...

If you don't catch an good ear with your music in the first 30 seconds, more than likely, they are going to skip over your track.

How many times have ya'll heard some lyrics on a mixtape spit over a hot beat, and then been like "dayum, I don't think I've heard that before", but then found out it was from an album you used to bump and just skip the track on.

Bullshyt you not...happens all the time to people. BET YOU...

I love lyrics. But if your song sucks, it sucks....PERIOD.

Production should be on point, lyrics should be on point, hooks, chorus, all that...

And you better be able to spit that ish live too:) W/out passing out:)

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:36:50 GMT

@ 518p- *In James Earl Jones voice* Use it with great authority my friend. May this work guide you in your ability to bring down and insult your fellow man with astronimcal lengths.

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:36:58 GMT

@518: Da fuk is U sayin? Sauced by a local nigga? U talkin bout the one that work at the Chevron? If he so good why he aint gettin paid for it? Da fuk a nigga who makin a livin doin sumthin care bout some word flippin kid?

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:39:19 GMT

Kappagem said:

@dacatsmeow - I feel so bad for saying this...

but...

Purrrrrrrrrrr, just a lil bit. I feel like you throwing the Pinky up while you sip on that drank...

i'm just saying....

*************************
Hey Kappa-dappa-don

Don't feel bad ... MMMMEEEEOOOOOOWWWWWW ... I'm just saying (now I feel bad (:-)

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:40:12 GMT

@ Da Cats Meow...excuse me for interjecting but what the hell ya'll talkin about? I knew ya'll was having some ol secret society ass convo so I ain't pay it no mind but as I was scrollin' down all I saw was "Thong On Fire" and my mind went racing!

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Five18p — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:40:21 GMT

Ken_P said:
@ bp1- you got me dyin mane...but that is the state of hip hop...people dont wanna hear no thought provokin shit...they just want something that slap in they trunk...nice and slow lyrics that they can easily process...and a catchy ass singy songy hook...if you have all that then (in your word)

boom!

you have a hit record these days

@518- like i said earlier...i doubt that pac was the best rapper...but he did have alot of influence...look at all these wannabe pacs runnin around...niggas tryna say they words like him...niggas tryna still his character...his look

but in a lyrical sense nobody really tryna copy him...like say a rakim...pac didnt bring too much to the game in terms of a lyrical standpoint...he aint make niggas up they lyrics

he just brought realness to the entertainment business...nothing more nothing less...ay and im a 80s baby but i know about the essence of true emceeing...was pac a great emcee??? no...but was he a great motivational/inspirational/revolutionary speaker??? yes...great entertainer??? he was aight...great rapper??? yes
========================

What's wrong people?

was I too harsh?

maybe it's the Jamaican in me?

I'm to harsh for y'all

Ken P said exactly what I've been trying to say all morning and nobody saying shit bout his jockey ass.

That's what I'm saying Ken P....just what you said...word for word.....

But nigga's fling rocks at me when I say it, like I'm foul or sumin?

Maybe because your so sensitive you can explain it better, like a womans touch huh?

I should be more in tune wit mans feminine nature like you huh?

I bet Ken P smell like cocoa butter and lip gloss haha

nah fa real doe, Ken P you on point...

Mr. Shapiro(Ken P still got a "My Buddy" doll)
518p-

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:40:22 GMT

@518:Oh I get it, U was talkin bout lil kids. Cause U talkin bout face to face wit a nigga. Da fuk 2 grown men wit light bills & mortgages doin standin face to face rappin?! Betta get a muthafuckin job. If you cant pay no bills wit yo craft, then it aint no craft. Its a hobby.

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dwrite — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:41:31 GMT

www.myspace.com/dwritemusic

If Bush can pardon John Forte he should definitely pardon Mike Vick. GWB gotta understand killing dogs he orders the murders of innocent Iraqis for years and his buddy Cheney goes to shoot animals all the time. Im still wondering when he started liking Black people.......

And for more on what I said I above , I know some people touched on it but heres more.......In that era you had to show some versatility. Albums were constructed with a lil bit of everybody in mind with joints for the club and street cuts with a little for the ladies and thugs and it was ok. Now it seems with everybodies opinions being daily read and typed that that is wrong. I hope that with the end of 08 we leave the HATE and SWAG in the past and shoot for 2010 with honest criticsm and lil more open mindeness than just drawing lines between whats great and whats garbage. Gimmicks and beef used to be looked at as smoke screens for lack of talent. I dont know whats going on today in the biz because its way out of our control of course.

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KillaRell — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:42:19 GMT

it really ain't that the south doesn't have talented artists. It's just the same problem for lyrical southern artists as it is for lyrical northern artists. Ignorant fans want that ignorant shit. It's sad. These dumb rappers were once just dumb people. Apparently there is a lot of people from their flock who support them. Not to insult anyone's taste, but Gucci Mane is a prime example.

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:42:54 GMT

mu$h da great said:
@ the zane conversation..... I don't me to intrude .... I'm not hip to the books but I have seen that shit on cinemax lol, they lightweight get it in for softcore porn.. .......

I've peeped it and must admit i watch it. lol. Not for the softcore crap, It's like a soap opera to me. The one chick whose man take care of her 3xs a day and dude still walked in on her getting it!!! I need to know what's her issue? lmbo.

@518p- trying to not get in the debate but i'm rolling with you. Killa you and Kapp make good arguments. But i think everyone is missing ea other's point.

Yes you should be able to record your joint if that's the new technology, BUT, you still ALWAYS must be able to SLAY ea and everyone.

BOO YA KA, man me a try real hard to ignore da augument but it's hard. lol.

seriously, just reread ea others posts. It's right there!!!!! No matter how advanced we get, we must always remember how to survive without!!! Apply this to the debate.

(me a run out de door now)

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:43:43 GMT

Quiseebaby said:
@ Lionesse23

Underground...

....and a nig on the West Coast named CROOKED I

**************************************
Co-sign Crocked I and even though I'm not diggin his last one Suga Free

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:43:45 GMT

ay twon, did you see this old school chicago jawn?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dyk7AQfsxI&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div

fever,
after a couple more exchanges you gon realize that you talking about two entirely different things.

you talking about music.
and these other dudes really talkin about where they from.

watch, you'll notice it.

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:46:38 GMT

IAmMcFly said:
@ Da Cats Meow...excuse me for interjecting but what the hell ya'll talkin about? I knew ya'll was having some ol secret society ass convo so I ain't pay it no mind but as I was scrollin' down all I saw was "Thong On Fire" and my mind went racing!

**************************
No excusig necessary ... its a book (semi erotica) by Noire.

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:47:22 GMT

Quiseebaby said:
@ Lionesse23

Underground...

Me and my niggas!!!...... Thats not being cocky just my honest opinion..

Other then us, Royce, Bump J (now in jail like a motha tho..) and a nig on the West Coast named CROOKED I
-----------------------------------------------

Thanks Q-baby!! i'm like "HELLO, DID ANYONE SEE MY ????? TO THE BOARD" that's what's up, keep letting me know what's up. I sent you the reply to your email. Im digging that joint, the hook (aww so, so, but i explained why) and of course my young un gave it the stamp so thats a golden for me.

If me and the seed can jam to it together then i want inside the house.

bless up.

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:48:51 GMT

@BP - Guilty...didn't remember the Pete Rock and CL Smooth album cover...but I had the rest.

But the pic is mad small, so I'm surprised I could even read that...

Interestingly...sounds mad East Coastish to me...(I'm just sayin:)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Killa2thaB said:
@518: Easy greasy. U been makin dumb ass statements all day but I aint came outta pocket @ U. Soak it up nigga. If a quarter back only concerned bout one aspect of his game, then the only place he gone be playin is on Thanksgivin in the back yard @ his grandmama house. You think these muthafuckas is rappin cause they wanna be famous on their block?

^^^^Come on now Killa...

You already know that's how the BEST lyricists get down nowadays. If you can move the crowd (I mean, the cypher where you battle), then that makes you a pretty dayum good rapper.

I mean, already, you got niggas trying to be the King of Philly and the King of NY....

But the only niggas going platinum is Kanye and Wayne...

But them niggas ain't shyt. They don't have any work ethic or drive. They dayum sho ain't lyrical AT ALL.

Meanwhile, niggas like Buddens who have the love of the streets and illegal downloads don't get any play nationally...because he's that nigga out East playboy!!!

I'ma stop, because I don't wanna perpetuate REGIONAL type BS...

But folks gotta dream bigger...

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

@518 - Mobb Deep failed...

Biggie spit a verse on Jay's shit, and then some shit after the nigga Died. BIG gets no respect for that move, and I LIKE BIG.

Redman WOULDA...but who DID? And was successful.

Niccahs was scared of Pac...no matter how you wanna twist it up. Come on now...

Biggie was trying to RECRUIT NIGGAS TO GO AT PAC! Nas said it! Jay said it!

Pac took some no name niggas and murdered BIG on his OWN REKKID!!!

NNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

But I digress...

That isn't even speaking to the whole emcee thing. Like I said...

More than likely, he's your favorite rapper's favorite rapper.

I PROMISE, I'M DONE WITH IT FOR THE DAY:)

PROMISE
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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:48:53 GMT

@ 518- you a funny nigga...how long you gonna keep this up??? lookin like a gay ass biker

but nah...you came out like you was dissin the nigga pac...like "pac aint a great rapper"

you gotta break shit down for people in order for them to understand what you are getting at before you tell them straight up...

niggas close they ears when they hear somethin they dont like, understand, or wanna hear...then niggas automatically get defensive

break down all the shit for a nigga to see that shit for themselves...but when you just say somethin like..."aww fuck that nigga" and name off like 10 rappers that you feel are better...niggas gonna come for your head

@ iammcfly- you a funny nigga

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Texas_Playa — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:49:32 GMT

Once again for PP

read the WHOLE comment bruh before you respond

I TOOK THE APPROACH OF THE AVERAGE LISTENER

U dudes are funny!!!!! HOLLA

youngins think they know

before he RZA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDT8OOkS_dc

before he was GZA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDT8OOkS_dc

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:49:45 GMT

Another quick interjection...Bow Wow reminds me of a slightly miniscular cooler version (only because of the money) of Richie from Berry Gordy's The Last Dragon. (Bruce Leroy's little brother)

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:50:15 GMT

@fellas
i been reading the board allday, while you cats or having a piss test the chicks or getting it in.....

@ladies
15 min? what determines?

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:51:51 GMT

@bp1 - did you peep the link paulpierce left last on the yesterday's board? Priemier is my #1.

hey, you gonna answer my ? about EPMD and the other older artists trying a comeback?

I'm a 70's baby also. Feel like some don't just don't understand. :-)

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:51:54 GMT

DaCatsMeow said:
Risque is what it is for now and Noire (G-Spot was the shit) really had up until Thug-a-liscious, she almost bounced back with Thong on Fire, but is she has one more dog (4 legged) in a scene I'm have the Humane Society at her door to see whats really good.
************************************************
I even stay away from Noire....cold with the pen-game but uhhhh-no! Fool had me scared to even ACT like I was gonna get outta line wit my man....
The dogs? Shhhhheeeeeeiiiiit! I can't do it....

@Mu$h...Zane = hard core spit on each other type of porn. There is nothing soft about that!

@McFlyy...LMAO@ Secret Society....DCM & Lionesse, that book gets 4 thumbs down!

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WhoIsPaulPierce — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:52:33 GMT

Amen Blackpeople1!!!! Sad thing is half these cats don't even know about the good stuff. And i'm only 21 years old, but I respect the craft. I've done my homework....Like all these "gangsta" rappers nowadays, and the fools that listen to them. They don't even know Kool G Rap is one of the architects. I'm young but I pay homage to the old school. Kurtis Blow the breaks!! Sometimes I wish I grew up in the 80's fuck it though.

Yo Nex gin that's somewhat of a fair argument. But from a marketing standpoint that's basically what you are talking about. The masses wanna be in the club shakin their shaggin wagons to some candy ass D4l Laffy Taffy Boy I think they Like me UUUUUUUUUUUUU bullshit, hey man I'm not knockin the hustle do what you gotta do you broke ass rappers. But Me PERSONALLY LYRICS is what I look for. In the words of immortal technique "If you sold a million albums, it don't mean you got luck...It just means a million people are stupid as fuck!!!!" real talk

On the flipside you are right. Canibus is the most intelligent/intricate lyricist of all time in my opinion, but he has never received as much notoriety as he could have, because he isn't that popular amongst the masses, he doesn't dumb his music down.

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:53:06 GMT

that's my point, kappa.

that's why a lotta of my conversations have ceilings with y'all.

mecca and the soulbrother was probably the best example in hip hop production of all time.

and people on this page don't even know what it is.
you see what i mean?

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dwrite — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:54:53 GMT

For those sayin illseed shoudlnt have labeled the Budden video that way if he hadnt labled it like that maybe 2000 people woulda watched the others like whatever who cares but with that title it will be watched like 2000000 times and ur all talkin about it ...............................genius

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:56:10 GMT

One of my many and stupid quiffs with Pac was he said "that ass" way too much...

West Coast on that ass...
We bout to ride on that ass...
Get in that ass...

I got more but I just don't feel like d.i.t.c.

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:56:11 GMT

@BP1: I told u before you cant school me on this. I know hip hop. ______________________________________________________ @Anna Mae: So whats up wit some ceilin fan action? ______________________________________________________ @518: U talkin bout 2 grown ass men standin face to face rappin at each other? Im still capable...But Im'a have to pass ______________________________________________________ @Lionesse: Slay who? Why? Its Apples & Oranges. This niggaz story aint mine. We drawin on different life experiences to express ourselves. How can we even be compared? All we can do is try to get our points across as clearly as possible. If somebody likes it, they buy it. If they buy it I eat. Da fuk I care that its a lil fool round da corner who think he nicer? Prove it to the world nigga.

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Texas_Playa — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:56:13 GMT

Dont tell me a Point Guard is great if the nigga cant shoot the 3!

be like

"but look at how he dribble and distribute the rock"

fuck dat, he cant do the single most important thing at his position.

-------------------------------------------------------

huh?

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:56:38 GMT

theres only so much a nigga can talk about pac...

i gotta question for yall...

i know some of yall gonna get ya thongs in a bunch wit this one...

why it seem like there are more niggas on the east coast or from the east coast that are more in tune wit self than any other coast???

i have been everywhere in the states and thats just my observation

even on here...read niggas posts...there are more niggas from the east coast that drop knowledge than anywhere else...

my question is why???

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 19:57:39 GMT

ZRO_Coldest said:
@fellas
i been reading the board allday, while you cats or having a piss test the chicks or getting it in.....

@ladies
15 min? what determines?
************************************************
Nutt...2 questions, 3 answers...
re: the statement to the men....they can keep pissin we chillin on the sidelines :D

15mins? YES
What determines is if he just STFU during the first 15....after that (don't know about them but me?) he can pull the hair, fold a chick up, stand up & lean in it.....I mean at that point it don't matter....

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:00:35 GMT

BlackPeople 1 said:
ay twon, did you see this old school chicago jawn?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Dyk7AQfsxI&feature=rec-HM-fresh+div

fever,
after a couple more exchanges you gon realize that you talking about two entirely different things.

you talking about music.
and these other dudes really talkin about where they from.

watch, you'll notice it.

^^^^^Don't know what two you talking about BP, (ken P; Killa maybe?)...

But I was talking music. But I can't even speak on THAT anymore....because I PROMISED I wouldn't....

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

@board - I've listened to Crooked I....I'm gonna be nice and wait until more material drops, but I don't feel like he's the hottest thing out the west since Snoop or Game or whatever...

But I'ma wait....that sounds a lil biased...where ya'll Crooked I fans from? Cali pretty much?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

how did ya'll feel about that "issue with NY RAPPERS" post...

I'm interested in that too...

Mostly because I don't know why they chose to just single out NY anyhow? That regional bullshyt kills me on this site. If it weren't for ya'll, the board, I prolly wouldn't even mess with AHH. Starting to sellout in a way. These "focuses" on one city shyts are lame...

It's So Cold in the D Pt 33.267

NY - What's wrong with NY rappers? Why do people think we suck?

I mean, what's next?

The South - Why Does Soulja Boy Tellem?

For real...

Write an article and profile people from all over the country...that's more productive...IMO

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B*braze — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:01:01 GMT

Killa2thaB said:
...wait, did U say Snoop?
****************************

dont get it twisted... snoop can flow when he want to
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMVP5GdWhKI

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:03:16 GMT

hotnuknowit said:
ZRO_Coldest said:
@fellas
i been reading the board allday, while you cats or having a piss test the chicks or getting it in.....

@ladies
15 min? what determines?
************************************************
Nutt...2 questions, 3 answers...
re: the statement to the men....they can keep pissin we chillin on the sidelines :D

15mins? YES
What determines is if he just STFU during the first 15....after that (don't know about them but me?) he can pull the hair, fold a chick up, stand up & lean in it.....I mean at that point it don't matter....
December 11, 2008 2:57 PM

^^^^^Prolly because we talkin' hip hop...

And the ladies are talking about positions the men on this board will never put them in....

I mean, really, come on. I get it live, and hotnuknowshelikeitfromtheback ain't saying anything I don't know:) lol....freaky, freaky, freaky:)

I peeped their convos...I LISTEN...or READ...don't mean I gotta comment on it...

What ya'll ladies know about the dump truck:)

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Five18p — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:03:17 GMT

Killa2thaB said:
@518: Easy greasy. U been makin dumb ass statements all day but I aint came outta pocket @ U. Soak it up nigga. If a quarter back only concerned bout one aspect of his game, then the only place he gone be playin is on Thanksgivin in the back yard @ his grandmama house. You think these muthafuckas is rappin cause they wanna be famous on their block?

Killa2thaB said:
@518: Da fuk is U sayin? Sauced by a local nigga? U talkin bout the one that work at the Chevron? If he so good why he aint gettin paid for it? Da fuk a nigga who makin a livin doin sumthin care bout some word flippin kid?

========================
Ayo first off

I didn't mean any disrespect saying what you said was dumb, that's just how I talk...

But if you see sumin I say dumb, don't wait till I say yo shit is dumb to say so.

I can take talk, just don't step on my sneakers.

But based on your statements above I can see you talking about "Surf boards" and I'm talking about "Hovercrafts"

I Never said a QB should only be concerned about one aspect of his game.

but when you analyzing someone who is good and great, you look at the key factors of that position.

Whether it be emcee's or athletes...

If you cant battle a dude line for line you are not a great emcee...

it's really that simple....

And yeah, guess what.....

If you a Pac or whateva and you saying you the greatest and some dude at the Chevron son you while you thinking you sweet you gon look stupid.

If I beat Lebron in a pick up game they gon say he got clowned all over the nigganet.

A dude like Eminem would destroy Pac line for line....it don't mean Pac wasn't a great rapper, but it wasn't for his lyrical content.

Read what Ken P said and you'll get what I'm trying to say.

@Ken P(enis)
to answer your question; yes gettin head from a Brasilian transvestite is still considered gay...stop trying to justify the nasty shit you do rump ranger. And please stop fillin up my inbox wit these questions.

@McFly
yessir, I will use it proudly lol

Mr. Shapiro(my era is fading I guess)
518p-

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:03:35 GMT

Ken_P.....wasn't iggin you, just tryin to figure out myself why we don't have too many UG acts that are known to others outside of Nap.

We had a group when I was comin up called NAP....they used to kill it. Kapp, remember "NAP is just a ballin...got you dopefiends callin....." LOL

Now, I try to support our locals but some of em be on dumb stuff but hit my MySpace if you want to hear a few of my favorite locals (my lil bro n nem..lol) ....

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:05:11 GMT

hotnuknowit said:

he can pull the hair, fold a chick up, stand up & lean in it.....I mean at that point it don't matter....
______________
damn...like dat???

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:05:36 GMT

kapp said: Interestingly...sounds mad East Coastish to me...(I'm just sayin:)
-----------------------------------------------THAT'S CAUSE HE'S EAST COAST BABY!!!! lmbo. no i had to do it Kapp. I had your back earlier when Knowl was asking ?'s. PaulPeezy i gots his also, we from the same spot!!!!

Now i feel what your point. so tell me if you made an avi like that, who'd you put up? just wondering.

Ya'll going to notice i'm trying to steer away from that debate. also i do wonder :-)

@WhoisPaulPierce : what it do sir? good look on that shug link. Anything that has Preimere on it, must send to me. lionesse23@yahoo.com. as i keep saying my #1. who you listening to on our side of town?

Right now, i'm just shopping, trying to see what's out here in these other states. We be sleeping on ea other's regions, and thier undergrounds. I'm trying to get the plugs but it look like my son is getting all these younger cats online to hook him up easier than i am. I got a few peeps to check out.

Oh yeah dacats and Q, i'm schooled on Crooked I, good look though. :-)

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:06:42 GMT

@BP1: I dont know who Pete Rock & CL are? Da fuk outta here wit dat "Im hip hop holyier than thou shit". I told you, I know bout this shit! And I aint I aint talikn bout where Im from nigga. Im talkin bout Tupac. Da nigga aint from Atlanta. Yall niggaz politicians.Spin masters! Try to make it seem like, I dont appreciate shit from other places, when its you.

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Just_Rude — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:08:23 GMT

ZRO_Coldest said:
@fellas
i been reading the board allday, while you cats or having a piss test the chicks or getting it in.....
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i thought i was the only one to peep that ... they had me over here bugging ...

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:09:35 GMT

Kappagem said:

What ya'll ladies know about the dump truck:)
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I hate to question with a question.....but how about you explain the dump truck...then we hit you wit a yay or nay?

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:10:13 GMT

Okay Okay .... Too funny ...

ZRO_Coldest said:
@fellas
i been reading the board allday, while you cats or having a piss test the chicks or getting it in.....

@ladies
15 min? what determines?
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What up ZRO ... and no I'm not eating no damn cake !!!! I like PIE !! NEXT to answer the ?'s

15 min to let me know WHERE YOU AT WITH IT AND WHERE WE GOING WITH IT .... Not that you get in in the next 15 ... but if you get it at all. AND within those 15 YOU can fuck yo self off by not STFU.

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hotnuknowit said:
@McFlyy...LMAO@ Secret Society....DCM & Lionesse, that book gets 4 thumbs down!

Was he talking about that hot slop on a page? Oh helltothenaw !

she also said...

"he can pull the hair, fold a chick up, stand up & lean in it.....I mean at that point it don't matter...."

MY ADLIB ... stop for a sip of Henn, figure four leg locks and hand stands (I know thats what you were thinking ... somebodys gotta say it)

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:10:25 GMT

Ken_P said:
hotnuknowit said:

he can pull the hair, fold a chick up, stand up & lean in it.....I mean at that point it don't matter....
______________
damn...like dat???
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...shhhhh! LOL

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B*braze — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:10:54 GMT

Five18p said:

Nigga's like who was scared of Pac?

Biggie wasn't....

Redman would've battle dat nigga

Mobb Deep dissed his ass back

C'mon, y'all nigga's didn't even love Pac till around 93'
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yo i was ten in 93 so i was right on time

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Just_Rude — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:11:29 GMT

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:12:15 GMT

And one more gem of knowledge before I leave...All these rappers we discussed, the Shawty Los, the D4Ls, the Yung Jocs of the world...3 years down the line they ain't gonna be shit. They gonna be right here on AHH with us postin' and shit. I swear Murphy Lee & Cadillac Tah was on here fightin' the other day but I digress from my point. The point is it's a reason why Illmatic, Reasonable Doubt, Life After Death & Me Against The World is STILL constantly going platinum. Because it's quality music. Shit like that gets sampled, played in soundtracks and all types of shit because it's lifely music. 10 years later my daughter is gonna be able to relate to that shit. Next year i'm not gonna remember "Lookin' Boy" or "Ricky Bobby". Nobody is gonna sample "My Dougie". I guarantee that. And that's why niggas put emphasis on lyrics, it's fucking worldwide. I can't relate to a damn beat.

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:12:33 GMT

paul pierce, damn bruhva.
and you a young cannon too.

yo man i'm a happy as shit to hear that from you.

maybe we ain't all swirlin the drain...

lioness sis, hey now.

ay i'm redt to answer you.

okay.

do you know what i think?

oh wait. i didn't see the premier thing.
can you show it to me??

but boom this is what i think:

yo, i don't know if EPMD or any other vets should continue to drop albums if they haven't raised and nurtured teenage proteges.

this is kinda funny.
but in philly. a busta or a hurb or a punk we call them "nuts".
or "in the way ass niggas".

like you in the way.
get out the way.

now i ain't sayin the vets is clowns by no means, so that's why i had to lay that preface.
but sometimes they be in the way.

cloggin up the marketplace.

or maybe there's room.
who knows?

naw.
it's not.

for instance, LL shouldn't be on his 15th album.
that's selfish.

that's an extreme stance, i know.
but still.

so that means when LL's career is over his thunder is gone too?

naw, man. that's wrong.
he should have like 4 or 5 lil 16-17 year old cannons on deck ready to lyrically slay anybody that got something to say about farmers blvd.

mama said knock you out is a sneaky lil classic album, too btw.

but seriously that's the way i see it.

but the problem is just like the dudes on this board.

they are blinded, validated and dazzled by commercial success.

so the vets keep droppin albums.
goin with the pop sound and tryna sound trendy.

that's why the dipset and mims sound like country artists.

tryna be trendy.

i say EPMD and AZ and Rakim and Big Daddy Kane and Premier and Marley Marl and Pete Rock and Q-tip.

these dudes and so many other need to take up young hungry apprentices. and feed them every single thing that they know.

you know why?

cause that's how you ensure the longevity.
by pumping life into the youth.

like the master killer in the kung fu movies.
gordon liu.
he comes from liu chia liang
liu chia liang got it from his father
his father got it from magnificent butcher lam sai wing
butcher lam sai wing got it from the one and only master
WONG FEI HUNG.

see how the artform survives because it is passed down?

this is what i wish EPMD and all the vets would do.

otherwise the art dies when they do.

and if the masters of the art don't raise the youth then white people's money will.

that's why you hear these dudes on here talking about talent or skills is when you make money off it.
or when commercial success and the numbers really tell how good you are.

this is what happens when you ain't got proper guidance.

see?

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:12:59 GMT

Ken_P said:
theres only so much a nigga can talk about pac...

i gotta question for yall...

i know some of yall gonna get ya thongs in a bunch wit this one...

why it seem like there are more niggas on the east coast or from the east coast that are more in tune wit self than any other coast???

i have been everywhere in the states and thats just my observation

even on here...read niggas posts...there are more niggas from the east coast that drop knowledge than anywhere else...

my question is why???
December 11, 2008 2:56 PM

^^^^^Might need you to explain that a lil further Ken...

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:14:40 GMT

ken p.

i can answer that east coast knowledge niggas thing for you.
but i'll wait.

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:14:45 GMT

@518: No my nigga, Im talkin bout takin yo talent to a higher plataeu. Im speakin on graduatin from a hobby to full time. Im talkin bout we usta just fuck around wit it but now lets take this shit world wide. So, u talkin bout surfboards and Im talkin bout hovercrafts.

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:16:07 GMT

lionesse23 said:

@Ken_P : what it do sexy? good look on that porn link. Anything that has you naked on it, must send to me. lionesse23@yahoo.com.
________________
will do...

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:16:44 GMT

@kapp - hip hop talk?

man, it's time we retire the pac, region, who's best convo.....we will never agree.

@board
to everyone who has listened to the rappers on the board on their respective pages who is the best rapper, lyricist, mc?

@sexy
i can dig it!

.

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:16:49 GMT

lionesse23 said:
Oh yeah dacats and Q, i'm schooled on Crooked I, good look though. :-)

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But get ya feet wet with SugaFree (not the last one, Smell my Finger) ... he always has the best WEST COAST beats.

"If I tell you a flea can pull a tree you get a rope and hook his lil ass up"...

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WhoIsPaulPierce — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:18:13 GMT

You provin my point Texas Playa...THE AVERAGE LISTENER is ignorant!!!!! This is all my opinion, but I firmly believe in what Immortal Technique says, there is a reason he is my favorite rapper amongst the new age....because he speaks the truth man. I don't care how young I am i got my mind right homie. The masses are blind sheep, it is so easy to accept what is, instead of questioning what isn't.

i'll quote my man Tech off Industrial Revolution -

"I want fifty three million dollars for my collar stand
like the Bush administration gave to the Taliban
and fuck packing grams nigga, learn to speak and behave
you wanna spend twenty years as a government slave
two million people in prison keep the government paid
stuck in a six block eight cell alive in the grave
i was made by revolution to speak to the masses
DEEP IN THE CLUB TOAST THE TRUTH, reach for the classes

If yall never heard From now till then by Jadakiss check it out. There's a mix with DJ Premier and one of the samples he uses is from Canibus off Get Retarted "ALL I REALLY WANT IS YOU NIGGAS 2 BE ORIGINAL AND START SPITTIN SOME LYRICAL SHIT THAT I COULD LISTEN 2!!!!!!!!!"

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IAmMcFly — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:18:30 GMT

@ Hotnuknowugotsomanynamesorhereidontknowwhatswhat- Fold you up, stand up & lean in it...I mean, well damn. Who is yo' nigga, The Hulk?

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Doe A. Fella — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:18:36 GMT

Five18p said:
@Kappy
@Doe
@KillaB

Yo Pac wasn't a good rapper, hands down point blank....

Ima put it like this....

Maybe since music has gotten so mainstream y'all forgot what an emcee was and does....

In it's essence an emcee is to be able to "battle" another emcee wit pure words....

No stage, props or nuffin...

So if you had some one like Pun or Big or Buddens or Andre 3000 or Crooked and they wanted to battle line for line?

You gon call Pac?

If Pac, Nas and Cannibus was sitting behind you and you had to pick one of them to battle them dudes I mentioned who would you pick last?

Be honest wit ya selves...

Y'all got the art fucked up, in it's essence an emcees is to be able to battle and spit out some hot ass fiya if he want's to be considered and dope emcee.

Now when you take in account being an "artist" then Tupac is tha shit...

Cuz he can touch you through his music and got a good presence.

But don't fool y'all selves...

If Tupac was ya man and you was around a bunch of hiphop heads and Joe Budden was like, that's ya mans?

he cat flow lemme battle that nigga?

You think Tupac could fuck wit that nigga line for line?

nawwww....

In case you don't know Battle raps don't include story telling...

Or saying "I live thug life baby"

Nigga's like Redman would battle you wit the topic being an Ice cream truck!

Mr. Shapiro(E.M.C.E.E. a smooth operator, operating correctly)
518p-
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(Uncle Dope Voice) Berrrrt da Balllll

Since I'm late wit the reply alot shit already been said, so I'mma try and keep it brief and sweet.

As far as a battle rapper off the dome I think that even some of the most hardcore Pac fans would agree that he wasn't.

But as stated before u have to be able to possess more than one particular quality to be a total MC.

So with that being said if you possess if you can spit heart felt lyrics, move the crowd, have good track selection, but can't battle rap does that disqualify u as bein a good MC?

If so, does that mean that as long as I can battle rap (the essecne of MC'in), but i ain't sayin shit that my audience can relate too and its evident in their reactions, and it sound like Lou Ferigno been pickin my tracks does that make me God MC?

I'll take the first scenario whoeva that rapper might be.

But now i'm bout to speak from experience, from a live show stand point.

Back in 93' Pac came to MSU and did a show, mind u he had jus dropped Strictly For My N.I.G.G.A.Z. around this time. Now before he ended up shuttin the show down on some halfway ignant shit, the boy showcased all the tools you would want an MC to possess. Most of all he moved the crowd, and like I said this was 2 albums deep pre Deathrow Pac.

Then in 94' B.I.G. came and rocked at MSU. Now I think most would agree that B.I.G. was superior lyricist of the 2 MC's that i'm comparin. And in fairness B.I.G.'s concert was on a Tuesday night compared to Pac's being on a Sunday night, but Pac gave a better show even tho he ended the show wit some shit that landed him in jail.

All that to say Hip-Hop is like a living organism, that grows and adapts. The pioneers who started left a blueprint to follow, but not to necessarily be recopied for the end of time.

Artists have to make their additions to the blueprint. If you started off wit a family a family of 3, then all of a sudden have quadruplets, you gonna have to build some more rooms in yo house or move into anotha house. But whateva yo choice is, u still livin in a house.

It's prolly more I could say, but i'mma let that digest cause I'm behind readin the other posts anyway.

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Nex Gin — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:19:16 GMT

@WhoIsPaulPierce
I'm not really concerned w/ the marketing or mainstream. I'm talking about the overall quality of the product. The feeling you get when you listen to it. The timeless quality. The relevance. You know what I'm saying.....like the feeling you get when you listen to the Supafly soundtrack, some old Al Green or Mowtown........that timeless, artistic, relevance that quality music has. You won't catch me fuckin' w/ the Shawty Los, D4Ls, Soulja Boys and bullshit like that. Some people dig that but to each his own.....shit is garbage to me. I hear a club song and I turn the radio off or switch the channel. I do look for lyrical ability, but I want those lyrics to have meaning outside of a bunch of meaningless punchlines and metaphors. That shit was cool 10 years ago, but I've been there done that. "Impress me" is all I'm saying to these new cats. I grew up listening to Rakim, Kool G Rap, Slick Rick, Kane, Special Ed, Public Enemy, KRS, Wu, Redman, Nas....etc...etc...etc. I'm 31 years old so I grew up during that time where lyrics and substance meant something. Its almost 2009.....I would still cop a new Redman album, but it isn't going to give me that same feeling that Dare iz a Darkside or Muddy waters gave me. I'm a different person than I was 10-15 years ago. My mindstate is somewhere else. The only artist to impress me recently is Lupe and that's because I feel he has that GIFT that makes great, "well rounded" artists. Its like...I think Joell Ortiz is a dope lyricist, but I couldn't get into his album because it felt 1-dimensional. At the end of the day, everybody has there preference of what floats their boat.

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Nex Gin — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:19:16 GMT

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:19:24 GMT

brizinizm,

yo! you know I watched that revenge for harold clip yesterday.

that fuckin movie is superior on so many levels.
damn.

but yo, the flyest (and a good example of the accents) is when awax - mc eight- be like

"ay homie. you need some haylp".

that shit is flavor.

yo i snuck and watched this ice cube and snoop jawn called "go to church" i think.

snoop does his thing.
people sleep.

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Five18p — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:20:32 GMT

Texas_Playa said:
Dont tell me a Point Guard is great if the nigga cant shoot the 3!

be like

"but look at how he dribble and distribute the rock"

fuck dat, he cant do the single most important thing at his position.

-------------------------------------------------------

huh?

========================

Context my friend....all in context, you gotta read my whole post

dont be Fox News'n me homeboy.

Ken_P said:
theres only so much a nigga can talk about pac...

i gotta question for yall...

i know some of yall gonna get ya thongs in a bunch wit this one...

why it seem like there are more niggas on the east coast or from the east coast that are more in tune wit self than any other coast???

i have been everywhere in the states and thats just my observation

even on here...read niggas posts...there are more niggas from the east coast that drop knowledge than anywhere else...

my question is why???
======================

Of course you are generalizing but you have to ask what age are these people you are describing?

It's in the culture out there more so and the music was about building back in the day.

But I lived in New York, Connecticut, Florida, L.A and Vegas so I can speak about all them places.

And especially in L.A. you got nigga's on they shit out there.....you may gotta dig through the pimps and the fake gangsta's but it's out there.

Oh and Braze
this is from yesterday but I didn't comment on it...

People in Cali do have accents, they sound a lil country, but people from the south migrated every area so it's expected.

Just listen to Ice Cube hahaha he sound funny to me wit da accent.

I been on the West so long I sound like a confuse nigga, East/West accent.

@Blidack
I figured that out too, I'm just hard headed lol

518p-

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:21:04 GMT

@hot:)

Amazingly, they don't have a good enough "definition" online. Contrary to the nasty ish I found when I hit "google", it's when a woman is lying off a bed or couch on her shoulders/neck, while her partner is towering over her "dumping" the D in and out. The trick is he is facing the opposite way, so you would really be looking at his azz as he is "dumping" per se, or hitting it.

Would love to find a better way to give a visual, but it's the best I can do for now...

He could literally sit down in it per se.

A woman has to have a strong neck and back, not to mention tolerance for "THE D" for this position...

Or so I've heard:0

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:22:07 GMT

DCM....see now, they supposed to hit the Yac on they own. You can't tell him he get a Yac break in advance. Might get to slippin...

McFlyy didn't mention that book but when he said Secret Society it made me think about it...

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:24:05 GMT

I was trying to be nice with it Hot but i'm with you. keep it quiet and we good lmbo.

@zro - basically, dont' start the intro with some seriously corny line.

@DCM - yeah she is a bit farfetched, but i have my moments when i like to read that crazy mess. I mean that book "Shame on it all" where the sisters went and jacked up the professor for messing with the younger one, funny as ever. now i know it's not real and won't happen in life, i just got a chuckle off of it. I read everything.

@killa - i get you, i'm just saying imo even though you all think it's Apples and oranges, it's not. with the times, you SLAY and show to the world that you are nicer. that was the point i was making.

Forget i commented, I THROW IN THE TOWEL. this is def like religion talk.

i'm for the hottest producer/crew, questionare. I want debates about productions, not just the emcees. it's been 2 or more months i've been around and i swear you all keep the same one going. That's fine, i'm just saying, i can't BUILD on this discussion.

And before anyone goes with the sarcastic remark, just scroll by, I do. I'm just trying to build also, so i'm trying to build off of the whole board.

bless up and all you guys be easy.

@ the fellas - tell me, hots, and DCM if you would let the wiz or s/o tie you up, string you up to the ceiling and do whatever?

hey anything to get you off topic!!! lol.

i'd even take jube right about now!!!! (no disrespect intended jube) and yes i always talk sports and if that's ya'll obsession (talking greatests emcees) then IGNORE THIS POST

one

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:24:37 GMT

So, u sayin that when all the old school rappers who was wearin big ropes and shit, was doin it they wasnt lookin to get paid for it? That really, they was content NOT to be makin big money off of records?

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:26:18 GMT

@ the ladies- say you datin someone....you feelin him real tuff like...yall been dating for some time and you feel like you ready to let him beat...we'll just call him ken p...

so yall go out on a date...yall all dressed up...thing is you just got your hair done...but at the end of the night...you wanna give ken p the business...

do you let ken p do what he do best and sweat that shit out???

or better yet...you just got a pony tail...can ken p rip that shit out in the moment of passion while he smackin your ass???

keep in mind you just spent $150 on your hair

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Blaqman99 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:29:40 GMT

What up Folk.....What up AHH!! Quick shout to my usual suspects......
fVAgogetta
junegemini
LT Brown
Boss Up
sears tower
meme slim
knowl
tommy k.
hotnuknowit
kappagem
adopefemalemc
miss dallasTX
willy kill’em
Bhudda Flii
blaqman99(gotta shout myself out)
HoodP
JDUNGEY

Anyone else i forgot then you know how the game go!! Get ya next time!!!

KEEP HIP HOP ALIVE!!!

ONE AND DONE!!!!

SC.....WE HERE!!

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:30:47 GMT

@Doe - I gotta read the last two paragraphs again...

Dayum!

But I do think it came across quite nice...in regards to speaking about a true emcee and all...

but like I said, personally, I PROMISED not to speak on it...so I'm just sayin good ish:)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Those terms I saw for dump truck in the urban dictionary are ALL BAD. Ladies...

Do refer to what definition I put on here for you. The other ones on line will have you walking around with Bey breath (that's wrong, but I have heard that from some VERY RELIABLE sources....I just hope it ain't true:)

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:32:04 GMT

Hmmm.....where to start?
@McFlyy....I don't make the moves or the names up! I mean thats just how it is ;D

@Kappa....I just did a copy & paste gotta get back with ya...

Whad up Brink?

Lionesse....<side-eye stare...> lets not talk about that tyin folk up mess....<still side eyin>

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Texas_Playa — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:32:40 GMT

@ PP

What makes the average listener ignorant...cause they don't like what YOU like...c'mon bruh

Everybody ain't living the same lifestyle...dudes making music to represent where they from...that everbody can relate to...not just the people in their circle or region.

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Texas_Playa — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:32:40 GMT

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:33:02 GMT

@ kappa- what do you need for me to clear up??? out of all the places i have been to it seem like its more niggas on the east coast that have knowledge of self

@ 518- you right...there are some niggas in LA that be on that shit...even out here too in the bay...but it seem like the most are from the east

@ hot- whats the myspace link???

@ lioness- i aint lettin no one tie me up...fuck outta here...i will tie her up though

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:33:15 GMT

Oh...when I said "lying off the bed or chair", they are actually on the floor, but using the bed or chair as a means to prop their back against it. Meanwhile, dude is standing over her beating it down, staring at the booty and slapping it, or even holding the ankles...but he can only see her azz and goods, while she can see his azz and goods:)

Enough of that....

Ya'll quit talking about them nasty erotic books now:)

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:34:48 GMT

bp1- what you waitin on???

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:37:55 GMT

@Braze: I wasnt clowin Snoop my nigga. I was just sayin in comparison. ______________________________________________________ @Lionesse: All Im sayin is, if you never make it off yo block, then the world cant hear you. If you cant make good songs, then who is going to invest in your career?

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:38:02 GMT

ken p.

i'm waitin on dudes from other regions to prove your question wrong.

i'm a wishful thinker.

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:39:36 GMT

cosigning Hot, and Kapp we were not talking about the positions men won't put us in. lmbo.

We are actually talking about authors, semi erotic to crazy and we wouldn't do it. so i guess you weren't really paying attention.

i kid, i kid. forget the other ? who'd you put as your avi,.like just hit me with any top 5 producers.
or how about this, who are you rocking this wk in the system? don't care if it's rap or not.

one sec bp1 i'm a post the link

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:39:39 GMT

Killa2thaB said: __________________________________________________ @Anna Mae: So whats up wit some ceilin fan action?

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LMAO ... Why you hot honey?

Me walking past you (on your words) "like it aint shit" ... Not now Ike !!!

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WhoIsPaulPierce — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:39:50 GMT

That is very true Nex Gin, especially hip hop in comparison to other avenues of music, but you are right we all have our preferences, why do you think my avi is all mid nineties? and yes most of these hip hoppers today are 1 dimensional, most of them I can't stomach. One could argue that Immortal Technique is 1-dimensional, but the subject matter is what is important there. He speaks his beliefs that happen to fall in line with mine, me personally that's why you will catch me at a technique show before a Lil Wayne sold out arena

I hear you tho most of these cats with the simple punchlines. Im in the old school

518p said "dont be Fox News'n me homeboy."

HAHA FAIR AND BALANCED!!! WELCOME TO THE NO SPIN ZONE

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Five18p — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:40:45 GMT

@Just Rude
you right I named off the wrong position, my bad, but you get my point...of what I was saying.

And again

At this Pac convo

we talking different shit, so we could do this all day

Again like I said....Read Ken P's post and y'all get what I'm talking about....issue is gettin stale.

At KillaB

I agree wit you on some, "step ya game up" type shit, emcee need to do that.

But keep in mind in that game if you say you flow, it's some real wolves out there that will be like "well nigga lets see"

80% of the nigga's I grew up wit still trying to rap, I gave up my dreams of that shit in my early 20's.

But when ever I see them cats they wanna battle lol

They show me they lil youtube joints of dudes battling and shit...

What you think they have Crooked I do when he go to the radio station?

they have him spit....

Real heads like spitta's and they know Pac wasn't one.

Yeah he may be able to rock a show at MSU like Doe said and will go down as the one of the greatest artist.

But again it wasn't for his lyrical ability....Pac wasn't on that shit no way.

518p-

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:42:10 GMT

Ken_P said:
@ the ladies- say you datin someone....you feelin him real tuff like...yall been dating for some time and you feel like you ready to let him beat...we'll just call him ken p...

so yall go out on a date...yall all dressed up...thing is you just got your hair done...but at the end of the night...you wanna give ken p the business...

do you let ken p do what he do best and sweat that shit out???

or better yet...you just got a pony tail...can ken p rip that shit out in the moment of passion while he smackin your ass???

keep in mind you just spent $150 on your hair
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STOP!
Did this nigga just say a ponytail? Cause if I'm payin 150.00 for a ponytail, hell yeah you can pull that bitch out! Hand it to me too so I can beat the cowboy-shit outta my stylist too....

Serious answer....seeing as though you have already assumed the role of "main ding-a-ling"....it don't matter if you mess the 'do up.....I mean it's an unspoke rule that you pay for it right?

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:42:18 GMT

Ken_P said:
@ the ladies- say you datin someone....you feelin him real tuff like...yall been dating for some time and you feel like you ready to let him beat...we'll just call him ken p...

so yall go out on a date...yall all dressed up...thing is you just got your hair done...but at the end of the night...you wanna give ken p the business...

do you let ken p do what he do best and sweat that shit out???

or better yet...you just got a pony tail...can ken p rip that shit out in the moment of passion while he smackin your ass???

keep in mind you just spent $150 on your hair

^^^^^LMAO

I'm just waiting for 518's incredible reply to this about something super homo

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Where's VA? The sex convos (even the good, tamed down lady ones about erotic books) are just up his alley:0

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:44:30 GMT

Hey Blaqman.....

Ken_P...http://www.myspace.com/chell_shock

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:47:24 GMT

@ Kapp ... that Dump truck sounds like the Wheel Barrel. I cant call it .... Moving along

@ Ken P ..... I say let _________________ gone a sweat that shit out ... dont fuck with ponytails so I cant call that one> But if I just spent $150 to get fresh to def, after I let __________ sweat it out he'll have no prob getttin it re-done and some xtre to get me someting NICE (:-) ya Under-Dig

@ Loinesse ... In the words of Janet J ... TIE ME UP TIE ME UP !!! LMAO

On the production topic ... first that comes to mind is Neptunes (Diversity), Timbo and Dre .. not in that order

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dwrite — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:48:00 GMT

Black I feel you about the older artists have proteges but you really wanna tell them to put the mic down? Some of these artists still have huge fan bases that these younger artists can never reach and dont want to.Maybe they feel like their best work is still ahead of them. I guess its like Jordan we all wanted him to come back from retirement regardless of the outcome we still wanted to see for ourselves if he still had it. If Jay had retired at Fade 2 Black you would have never got to hear him and Nas together. Did you believe he could still do it before he made the American Gangster album ? You want Meth and Red to retire so we will never get that How High 2? Even though Detox is a urban myth you're not gonna listen to it ? You can lead by example without retiring and coaching at least in musisc I believe. White fans dont treat their favorite artists this way they support them through thick and thin from youth to old age. We wouldnt know about that because hip hop is still a youngin, but these days it doesnt have to be a teen game. We are old enough to know this system is set up so that whoever is getting the most financial support will be seen as on top of the game but refuse to support those we talk about are the greatest. This is art to me if you're nice you're nice period. As you get older does that mean you have to listen to the youngest mcs because their young or because the music is good? Are older mcs incapable of new fresh ideas? What are you saying ? Like J Hood was sposed to be the new young Lox protege do u think ever will or could ever spit like the Styles, Kiss, or Sheek? The Wu tried to bring many young proteges through and none had the skills of the worst of the group to me . The vets passing the torch to the young guns sound good in principle but it just doesnt work that way..

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dwrite — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:48:00 GMT

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:49:51 GMT

@Ken P - Do you feel you have knowledge of self?

I asked what you meant by it because it sounds like a personal observation based on people you have met, or circle you run in.

I've seen that if you run with like-minded individuals, you'll end up learning they have the same thought process as youd do. Or even want to learn more as you do.

But if you run around with NIGGAS who really only care about smokin' blunts, drankin', and smashin' chicks, then that's what you'll get...regardless of where you go.

Case in point...

I be on this board, and I feel like I've read pretty good posts from people all over the spectrum...

And even dumber ones...

FROM all over the spectrum...

I dunno...I guess I was trying to see how you came up with that conclusion or observation.

I'm careful with the company I keep...no matter where I've met them

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Killuminati 187 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:50:47 GMT

Soulja Girt just need some good dick..she'll be a'ight.

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Killuminati 187 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:51:07 GMT

Soulja Girl*

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SNAPPA — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:51:09 GMT

Wow this shit ignited a fire storm and y'all are letting Shellz O'Reilly get away with starting this bullshit. And Illseed Murdoch for co-signing that fake ass headline.

If ya actually peeped the interview then all this drama would be moot. But some of ya didnt. Ya just got ya blood boiled and took it out on your keyboard.

Shellz ya a damm shame. Y'all are getting lazy with yo shit for real.

REPORT THE RUMORS. DONT CREATE THEM.

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:51:09 GMT

@ hot- lol...i dont know if im the "main"...you know how you ladies do it...you always keep a extra nigga in yo back pocket...

we are not in no relationship though...we just cool...go out from time to time...you know...i make you laugh and all that...talk on the phone every now and then...that is the basis of our relationship...

but me being ken p and the fly ass nigga i am..you start feelin me hard...i turn you on...so you wanna give me the business...i have never spent a dime on you so would you really think i would pay to fix your hair??? i am just sayin...

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The Seventh Seal — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:52:05 GMT

Ken_P said:
theres only so much a nigga can talk about pac...

i gotta question for yall...

i know some of yall gonna get ya thongs in a bunch wit this one...

why it seem like there are more niggas on the east coast or from the east coast that are more in tune wit self than any other coast???

i have been everywhere in the states and thats just my observation

even on here...read niggas posts...there are more niggas from the east coast that drop knowledge than anywhere else...

my question is why???
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what niggas from east is dropping all this knowledge you speak of?

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:52:17 GMT

@hot - remember i said i kid about the dominatrix, and you called me on it, there it go!! lol. as for the tie up ? to the fellas, girl i'm trying to get them to digress.

call me antsy it's TNT thursday just wtng to get out of here to get home, get my sons settled and chill. reading those posts make me feel like the time is rewinding over and over, and over. im going to get it now. lol.
oh yeah wait till you read what "dump truck" is.

@kapp - i'm a need to be in Roxy mode for that type of situation. i'm crying over here.
thanks for the laughs.

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WhoIsPaulPierce — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:53:11 GMT

Texas Playa:

What makes the average listener ignorant...cause they don't like what YOU like...c'mon bruh

Everybody ain't living the same lifestyle...dudes making music to represent where they from...that everbody can relate to...not just the people in their circle or region.

Listen homie, I understand people make music to represent where they are from...you are kind of proving my point here. These rappers..scratch that...these people are institutionalized in their own minds. The section 8 life is all they know so I can't blame a young man with a little money goin out and splurgin, dont you realize we are a product of this nation? You talk about you want something to shake your ass in the club 2....come on homie can't you see the facade? This society is motivated by material objects...NOTHING good will come out of this. You wanna talk about people making music to relate 2? PICK UP A FUCKIN IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE CD. STOP BEING A MINDLESS DRONE. Cats will read this shit and call me a conspiracy theory...like yea aight this niggas buggin NA IT AINT AIGHT....YOUR PEOPLE GETTIN SHOT DEAD IN THE STREETS IS AIGHT....YOUR MOMS PUSSY IS AIGHT....haha sorry had 2 quote technique there yall are gettin me fired up

You wanna talk about people making music to relate 2? DOG I CANT RELATE 2 SOME MINDLESS TUNE ABOUT SLAPPIN A HO AND POURIN 500 DOLLAR BOTTLES OF CHAMPAGE ON THE GROUND, WHEN NIGGAS IN YOUR HOOD CANT GET AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE

Man I like real shit, that speaks the truth so I guess I aint the average listener so be it, I refuse to be a fuckin sheep with my eyes closed

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Five18p — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:53:30 GMT

@Kappy

naw I'll stall him out

when I saw that post I was like, damn I should snuff money right now!

haha

Ken P awright

for the record he started that gay shit wit me, maybe he can tell I got a deep voice and want me to invite him to my secret garden like I'm Barry White or some shit...

but I wont say shit about that post he made although that was like playing "B.B. Britches" wit ya hands tied behind your back.

518p-

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The Seventh Seal — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:53:36 GMT

what up BRINK

I see Illseed been reading my post.

Brink TV is going nationwide mane.

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:55:00 GMT

@BP1: I know u talkin bout me nigga. The simple answer is: Niggaz up top had the opps to expand their knowledge in that area. What I mean is, when they would congregate to discuss/expound/educate one another on the topic, the klan didnt ride up and start hangin niggaz. Even though that era has passed and niggaz could organize and educate each other now, they dont cause they are content. It just takes 2 generations to become docile. If a child watches his grandfather & father comply till they die what are the odds of him goin against the grain?

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:56:26 GMT

hotnuknowit said:
Ken_P said:
@ the ladies- say you datin someone....you feelin him real tuff like...yall been dating for some time and you feel like you ready to let him beat...we'll just call him ken p...

so yall go out on a date...yall all dressed up...thing is you just got your hair done...but at the end of the night...you wanna give ken p the business...

do you let ken p do what he do best and sweat that shit out???

or better yet...you just got a pony tail...can ken p rip that shit out in the moment of passion while he smackin your ass???

keep in mind you just spent $150 on your hair
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STOP!
Did this nigga just say a ponytail? Cause if I'm payin 150.00 for a ponytail, hell yeah you can pull that bitch out! Hand it to me too so I can beat the cowboy-shit outta my stylist too....

Serious answer....seeing as though you have already assumed the role of "main ding-a-ling"....it don't matter if you mess the 'do up.....I mean it's an unspoke rule that you pay for it right?
December 11, 2008 3:42 PM

^^^^That is the part where you politely walk away...

You now live in a society where a woman has all the same rights a man does (I N D E P E N D E N T, do you know what that mean mayne!)...lmao

Seriously, if I take care of all that stuff (bills, hair, etc...), then my WIFE (yeah, she better be my wife first and foremost) better be keeping me a clean home, hot meals, and good sex...faithfully. With no complaining...

YOU paying for the hair? mayne...

That deserves a discussion...

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B*braze — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:57:19 GMT

Killa2thaB said:
@Braze: I wasnt clowin Snoop my nigga. I was just sayin in comparison.
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i know. just throwin my lil 2 cents in... its cool

Five18p said:
Oh and Braze
this is from yesterday but I didn't comment on it...

People in Cali do have accents, they sound a lil country, but people from the south migrated every area so it's expected.

Just listen to Ice Cube hahaha he sound funny to me wit da accent.
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so wait... cube got a accent too? man this shit got me dyin...

who else sound funny to ya'll?

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WhoIsPaulPierce — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:57:35 GMT

That's real talk Kappa, Most of these heads are so concerned with the next mans doing that when they get home they don't even know what the fuck they want for themselves. 2 many followers nowadays not enough leaders...Stand on your own 2 feet and fight for something YOU believe in

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:59:03 GMT

Who is this dwrite nigga? He on point.

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Quiseebaby — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:59:08 GMT

@ Lionesse
Yea I tell him all the time. Nigga this shit nice, but UNDERSTAND with the type of shit u doing u only gone hit certain people and u have to be content with that. A person that wanna REALLY hear some music music gone get tired after about 3 fresh tracks, but in all HONESTY thats who he is. He that SUPERFLY nigga. Its not fake. He is really as arrogant as he spit it tho. lol. That "Check My Fresh" I think is ready because of the climate the game in right now. We trying to get it out here now before its too late cause in a minute people gone wanna hear more REAL life shit because its bad out here and aint nobody having fun or worrying about clothes right now

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:00:05 GMT

@bp1 - I figured you may not like the actual song but the production is fire imo.

WhoIsPaulPierce said:
Lionesse what is crackin in the 617?? You ever heard that song by Big Suge Called My Boston? good shit figured you'd appreciate it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlhuNm7dDBs

let me know what you think,

and i got it about the EPMD and others comeback. real talk that's somethign to build on.

bless up

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Ken_P — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:01:40 GMT

ima get back wit yall in a minute...kappa i see your post...ima answer it in a second

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:01:42 GMT

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Quiseebaby — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:02:09 GMT

@ D WRITE

CO SIGN 1999999999%!!!! IT aint up to great artist to retire to make a way for new artist, its up to new artist to be great and create a lane for they own talent. Say what u want, but Soulja Boy did just that!!

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:02:26 GMT

@Lionesse - You are NASTY!!!

What you know about Roxy!?

Bwahahahaha...just bad!!!

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SNAPPA said:
Wow this shit ignited a fire storm and y'all are letting Shellz O'Reilly get away with starting this bullshit. And Illseed Murdoch for co-signing that fake ass headline.

If ya actually peeped the interview then all this drama would be moot. But some of ya didnt. Ya just got ya blood boiled and took it out on your keyboard.

Shellz ya a damm shame. Y'all are getting lazy with yo shit for real.

REPORT THE RUMORS. DONT CREATE THEM.

^^^^^I hope folks didn't get they blood boiled over that?

I know the conversations I was having with 518, ON MY PART, were cool. Keep in mind...I can't see the video here at work, so the convo's really had nothing to do with Buddens speaking on Pac, and everything to do with Pac and people's opinions of his rapping on THIS BOARD.

I can't go at SHelz or whomever for that...

Now, in regards to that NY article...that's a whole other subject...

I think that article was FOUL...

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:02:51 GMT

Ken_P said:
@ hot- lol...i dont know if im the "main"...you know how you ladies do it...you always keep a extra nigga in yo back pocket...

we are not in no relationship though...we just cool...go out from time to time...you know...i make you laugh and all that...talk on the phone every now and then...that is the basis of our relationship...

but me being ken p and the fly ass nigga i am..you start feelin me hard...i turn you on...so you wanna give me the business...i have never spent a dime on you so would you really think i would pay to fix your hair??? i am just sayin...
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Don't take this response as me bein funny cause I don't know about the others ladies..only DCM but leave her outta my response...

First....it don't matter how fly you are you ain't just bout to be gettin my goodness on gp....hell with that thinkin, you just might be the back pocket nigga til you get on my level of understanding.....<in my best Chinese voice> you break, you buy nigga! You will NOT be fuckin my hair up for the hell of it.....

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:03:39 GMT

@kenp - i'm a natty by nature so you can pull my locs anytime and not lose the grip. :-) the most i spend for a style is $60.00 (they don't reach long yet) so if i sweat out my new retwist you got to take in account i have to resit for more than an hour and get it redone. Of course he's paying for that. My rules, never say no, and no worries, my King got me. :-)

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:03:43 GMT

@Braze: "Tha Shiznit" is still the tightest freestyle I ever heard on a album.

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B*braze — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:04:02 GMT

this shit is amusing to me kuz i got fam all over and i always heard what nex gin was sayin that we sound like some 'proper thugs' and gettin on us about how we got dope ass weather and all...

i tell em like xzibit said on 'u know'

"most you niggas get it confused, right. they think its all chronic and palm trees out this muthafucka... bitches in bikinis."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWnFm_wn2LI

but this country shit is new to me.

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Bertofab — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:05:15 GMT

As for the rumors, ?uestlove gets a big-ass ? for cosigning Ron Browz. I can't stand that nigga.

And Joe Budden and Lloyd Banks together on a track would be fire. I'll be waiting for that one.

@Knowl
I rep the BX pretty hard too, I'm just not in NYC to do it. People always think I'm from either Manhattan or BK. I gotta set them str8!

Shout out to:
Knowl, lionesse23, BlackPeople 1, adopefemalemc, ZRO_Coldest, Seanjohn81 and Jiggagirl007. And shouts out to anyone reppin' the BX, Philly and LA. I've been messing around in the IC lately, but I still keep tabs on this rumors s**t.

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B*braze — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:07:05 GMT

Five18p said:

but I wont say shit about that post he made although that was like playing "B.B. Britches" wit ya hands tied behind your back.
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speakin of 'bb britches' who used to play 'chin-check'. my big brother loosened up one of my teeth playin that

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:09:57 GMT

I see some of these lil swimmers in here gettin dangerously close to stickin that big toe off in the water. DONT DO IT. Any dialog between me, 518, BP, Knowl or one of these other respected members is different. We got clearence wit each other. I got some respect for these cats, so I keep it fairly clean. But if a new nigga jump in an say some disrepectul shit...

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:12:07 GMT

Kapp said alot but this here:
^^^^That is the part where you politely walk away...

You now live in a society where a woman has all the same rights a man does (I N D E P E N D E N T, do you know what that mean mayne!)...lmao

Seriously, if I take care of all that stuff (bills, hair, etc...), then my WIFE (yeah, she better be my wife first and foremost) better be keeping me a clean home, hot meals, and good sex...faithfully. With no complaining...

YOU paying for the hair? mayne...
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See I don't know how to take this one.....
Cause clean house, hot meals & sex? What's life without em? Now complainin? Who doesn't complain? Now if it is some petty shit I can understand BUT complainin for real? You better get started on that robot chick now.....
As far as the hair.... let's not even get started...

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:15:58 GMT

Five18p said:
@Kappy

naw I'll stall him out

when I saw that post I was like, damn I should snuff money right now!

haha

Ken P awright

for the record he started that gay shit wit me, maybe he can tell I got a deep voice and want me to invite him to my secret garden like I'm Barry White or some shit...

but I wont say shit about that post he made although that was like playing "B.B. Britches" wit ya hands tied behind your back.

518p-
December 11, 2008 3:53 PM

^^^^^YA'LL GOTTA STOP! Ya'll gonna get me fired mayne! I'm over laughing loud as heyell!!!

"for the record he started that gay shit wit me, maybe he can tell I got a deep voice and want me to invite him to my secret garden like I'm Barry White or some shit... "

Aw dayum!!!

lmao!

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@DaCatsMeow - They call it Dump Truck round my way, but the fact you know what I'm talkin' bout makes your man a very lucky individual! Man...

Bet you know about Roxy too, huh?

Dacats, you're married if I'm not mistaken...

You gotta twin???

lol
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Damn, Dwrite writes well:) I have to agree with Killa2tha on that...

Oh, except for one thing...

I didn't want Jordan to come out of retirement that SECOND time yo...just didn't want to see it:)

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@ladies on the board...I'ma go look up The Wheel Barrel, but for the record, the goal wasn't to piss any of you off...

I was just checkin' to see if ya'll let ya'lls men get PORNTASTIC with ya'll:)

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:17:37 GMT

Killa2thaB said:
I see some of these lil swimmers in here gettin dangerously close to stickin that big toe off in the water. DONT DO IT. Any dialog between me, 518, BP, Knowl or one of these other respected members is different. We got clearence wit each other. I got some respect for these cats, so I keep it fairly clean. But if a new nigga jump in an say some disrepectul shit...
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Imma finish it for him....<Brenie Mack voice>TROUBLE-TROUBLE.....

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:18:24 GMT

I meant *Bernie Mack*

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:19:03 GMT

@Dacat - It's not the wheel barrel, I don't believe. Check this out and tell me if this is the wheel barrel (i'm pretty sure it is, but I wanted to verify)

1. Wheel Barrel
when having intercourse with a girl in the "doggy style" position, the female's legs are lifted in the air, as if you are engaged in a wheel barrel race, and and her body is thrust forward into a wall or other hard object.

That's fun too, but not the same position I was talking about

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:20:31 GMT

Ms.Hot : Im'a just let you know that I strongly disapprove of you givin ya myspace all out, like it aint shit. Now, I know I kinda been pushin up on ya homegirl lately but that is no excuse. So if I come to ya page and spot one of these bucket head Ahh niggaz on there, Im wilin' off top!

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:25:02 GMT

hotnuknowit said:
Killa2thaB said:
I see some of these lil swimmers in here gettin dangerously close to stickin that big toe off in the water. DONT DO IT. Any dialog between me, 518, BP, Knowl or one of these other respected members is different. We got clearence wit each other. I got some respect for these cats, so I keep it fairly clean. But if a new nigga jump in an say some disrepectul shit...

_____________________________

dully noted (lol)...that's why i neen in read mode today..i don't want to jumo in that water (lh)

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:25:37 GMT

@Hot: Its too late, the info is all over the web by now. Damn it! Im'a need U to just start a new myspace page. _ "Why U gotta have a myspace fo anyway?"

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Texas_Playa — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:27:31 GMT

@ PP

Man please, yall dudes taking this rap shit too seriously...ITS ENTERTAINMENT!!!!!

Why so much disdain for other regions is my question though?

If you doing it for the love, then why does it matter what the next man is doing and why he's doing it. DO YOU!!!

If you doing it for the money, then make music that the masses can enjoy, not just your region.

But we can go on and on for days about this rap shit, you can't really tell me anything i haven't heard or experienced.

One thing for sure though, THE SOUTH HATES ON NO ONE, THE EAST HATES ON EVERYBODY!!!!!

Its cool to like who you like, but don't be one track minded. If you think all south music is about slappin hos and poppin bottles, then thats exactly what you are.

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Nex Gin — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:28:04 GMT

@WhoIsPaulPierce
Good points up above. I look at music like life. Life isn't all about partying, shaking ya ass in the club, the ghetto, money, etc, etc, etc. Those are all parts of life but that is not what life is only about. When I check for music nowadays, I'm looking for artists that understand that the world is bigger than your hood. I'm checking for artists that understand that life goes on after the club closes at 3. Life is bigger than the block or city you live in. The beautiful thing about music is that it trandscends EVERYTHING. It cannot be contained or limited. It is not one idea...although a person on the outside looking in would never get that impression based on the radio and t.v. It makes me wonder.....are niggaz really that one dimensional, shallow and territorial? This discussion would be the exact same if we were talking politics or something else. People take their sides...they're either on the black side or the white side. They completely ignore all of the grey area in the middle. Imagination is dead. People are afraid to be different or take chances. Niggaz are too macho to dig deep within and pull out that real shit......the shit that makes everyone as unique as a fingerprint. I dunno? Maybe I'm 'reading' niggaz wrong?

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dwrite — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:29:12 GMT

Peace 2 Killa2 and Quisee for payin attention and allow me to dig a lil deeper. If an artist make his own movement he or she will never be seen as much more than a wannabe shoefiller. Alot of artists are like Andre said, Cant afford not to record. We all gotta eat and some of the older rappers never reached the level of success they feel like they deserved. Taking a back burner to focus on another artist can kill your buzz and take you straight to the poorhouse especially giving good music away. Lets hope that doesnt happen to Talib. Without having your own label its hard to make decisions regarding others or yourself. Having your own label doesnt garauntee success or support either. As far as the NY artists are concerned I say never count them or anyone out for that matter you never know.......................theres a Black president who would have ever ever thought that before this year ?

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:29:34 GMT

killab, what's goin down?

i'll be right back.

dwrite.
now you offer me something.

what you said was on point, plus it give me a chance to go even deeper.

because the flip to what i'm sayin is this.
mic crowns ain't really given.

they are taken.

so if a lil youngin got next he should take that crown from LL.

i'm with that.

if you really want the slot jay-z got, knock him out that box.
i'm wit that all day.

ain't nuntin truer.

but by the same respects you would be better suited to go up against legends if you groomed by one.

"the older gods put me on on how to rock this.
maintain 360 long live prosperous."

i wouldn't be shit if plenty older gods ain't put me on all sorts of game.

plus everybody knees go bad.

in fact, jay and nas lost if their skills go with them.

if they don't create and inspire a cannon that's throrough enough to take that crown from them and they gotta go out still on top then all of us lose.

(plus my earlier post i was sayin i still want those albums IN ADDITION TO them groomin the next generation)

there's no way in the world.
i'm dying with everything i know.

that's foul.

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:31:05 GMT

@hot - i got tied up for a moment but did i read Kenp said, he's just a friend????

oh heck no, Kenp, that's not going down over here. I'm 34, the young and restless days are so over. He's my man, we are committed, 50/50 relationship. if that's the scenario,like hot said, "pull, it, lean in it, whatever, it's his" lol.

@kapp - i'm not nasy, lmbo. Roxy is my alter ego i'll break it down one day. Tell em Brink, you know right? lol.

What up Brink, i'm rolling with 7th, fyi Youngbrink, been posting you on my other spot i frequent. :-) got love for the young who appreciate the arts.

PaulPierce - get at me about those producers.

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:31:47 GMT

Killa2thaB said:
Ms.Hot : Im'a just let you know that I strongly disapprove of you givin ya myspace all out, like it aint shit. Now, I know I kinda been pushin up on ya homegirl lately but that is no excuse. So if I come to ya page and spot one of these bucket head Ahh niggaz on there, Im wilin' off top!
************************************************
You crazy....get ta wilin, SEARS been on it...

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:33:09 GMT

so bfg you gon sit right there and not say "hi dog. kiss my foot" or nuntin?

boy, i tell ya...

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:37:35 GMT

lionesse23 said:
@hot - i got tied up for a moment but did i read Kenp said, he's just a friend????

oh heck no, Kenp, that's not going down over here. I'm 34, the young and restless days are so over. He's my man, we are committed, 50/50 relationship. if that's the scenario,like hot said, "pull, it, lean in it, whatever, it's his" lol.
************************************************
DO U HEAR ME?!?!? Just friends shit went out wit Jodeci boots....

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:38:37 GMT

lmbo off @ zro, i noticed, but i figured it was the topic. I'd like to think your a respected memeber. heck if you aren't then i know i'm not. we both started jabbing on here @ the same time. lol.

hows the afternoon? almost done for the day. if you've been reading, then you see i'm patiently waiting for TNT tonight. :-)

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WhoIsPaulPierce — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:39:19 GMT

Yo nex gin that is real talk

Yo Texas Playa talkin to you is like talkin to a wall homie...at the end of the day you have your beliefs and I have mine

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:39:25 GMT

Killa2thaB said:
@Hot: Its too late, the info is all over the web by now. Damn it! Im'a need U to just start a new myspace page. _ "Why U gotta have a myspace fo anyway?"
************************************************
Uh...just to keep up wit friends? LOL
I really don't een be on tha 'Space like that nomore....

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:39:45 GMT

Kapp said:
Seriously, if I take care of all that stuff (bills, hair, etc...), then my WIFE (yeah, she better be my wife first and foremost) better be keeping me a clean home, hot meals, and good sex...faithfully. With no complaining...

*******************************
I puts a check next to all that on the list .... I burns in all the rooms in my house (Rachel Ray and Paula Dean cant hold me in the kitchen) ... In the words of of Martin ..."fuck the shit outta ya and make a nucka a sandwich" LMAO
& Who's complaing if the sex is GOOD ???

@ the wheel Barrel ... yes YOU GOT THE RIGHT ONE BABBBBYYYY .... yeah Dump Truck does not have a name out here ... pure beastin !!!! But the TRUCK with one leg up on the chair or bed .... NIIIICCCCEEEEE

Yes ... I'sa married too. Twin .... LMAO ... that would be HOT (Chelle E Bean) .... she my cyber twin

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:40:18 GMT

@Hot.........Now, I know you didnt just type anotha nigga name in all caps?! Im havin a fucked up day.

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:41:23 GMT

hey hey berto, how goes it? i'm still feeling out the ic. cheapseats is my spot.

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Chicago2London — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:41:23 GMT

BlackPeople 1 said:
that's my point, kappa.

that's why a lotta of my conversations have ceilings with y'all.

mecca and the soulbrother was probably the best example in hip hop production of all time.

and people on this page don't even know what it is.
you see what i mean?

CO SIGN CO SIGN CO SIGN CLASSIC CLASSIC CLASSIC

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Five18p — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:42:40 GMT

Aye Braze

I never played "Chin check"

I'm kindof sensitive about people touching my face, that's the kind of game that make a nigga start crying cuz he so mad!

I don't have the fortitude lol

nigga touch my chin to hard I'll be huffin up my shoulders and crying and shit "I ain't playin wit y'all no more" haha

@KillaB
tell em, new niggas tred lightly round here lol, especially when Fizz is on the loose.

@Kappy
don't get fired dude, but in case you need a bitch to take care of you if you do get fired, I'm sure Ken P would co-sign a Camry for you.

Some HipHop for y'all, some early 90's shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvWW3TCnoe0&playnext=1&playnext_from=QL

518p-

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:43:56 GMT

B*braze said:
Five18p said:

but I wont say shit about that post he made although that was like playing "B.B. Britches" wit ya hands tied behind your back.
***************************************

speakin of 'bb britches' who used to play 'chin-check'. my big brother loosened up one of my teeth playin that

*********************************************
LMAO @ 'Chin-Check' ... It would start as a game, but nuckas wouls get serious when they got to leaking !

What about Slap-Down? When you come out the lunch line with a fresh pizza a nucka just walk up adn tell SLAP DOWN YOU DONT WANT THAT and slaps ya shit to the ground !!!

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Nex Gin — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:44:40 GMT

@Texas_Playa
Sup fam. You asked a good question. "If you doing it for the love, then why does it matter what the next man is doing and why he's doing it. DO YOU!!!". My take on it is like this.... You have somebody in your life that you love right? Whether that be a parent, sibling, s/o or whoever. If somebody tried to harm that person, you'd be ready to do something life altering to protect them. Love....Real True Love is a strong force. It don't matter if its a person or music. If you love something, you do everything in your power to preserve its livelyhood. To those of us that Love this art for what it is, we can take that shit to heart when niggaz pimp it on some "I don't give a fuck shit...lets get rich shit". My thinking is....if you just wanna get rich...got get a 9 to 5, start a business, invest some money.....do anything else but dont' fuck w/ this thing that I love dearly. Don't rape, murder and destroy this thing that I care so much about. I don't wanna speak for everybody,, but that's how I feel about it. I don't like a majority of the shit that comes out the south, but I'm not going to shit on a whole coast just because Shawty Lo gets more spins than <insert favorite rapper here> on the radio. Truth be told, I don't like the majority of this rap shit period anymore..regardless of origin. The soul of the art was sold a long time ago to the highest bidder.

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:47:26 GMT

what up bert?

keelab, (and Ken P) i wasn't gon say that about the klan.

what i was gon say was about the Nation of Islam.

in detroit chicago and harlem is where these movements and offshoots of these movements gained prominece.

it's here that ideas such as
"who is the original man?"
"the asiatic black man. the maker owner cream of the planet earth. father of all civilization. god of the universe."

seeped into brothers conciousness.
even as second nature.

to the point that you might refer to your peers as god or sun.

now ken, member how we always talk about the direction of the colonization of this country?

the same thing kinda applies to other shit as well.
culturally speaking.

an artsy fartsy "smart movie" is usually a east coast new york film while the big productions with 'splosions and FX are typically "hollywood" fare.

the funny thing would be if the nation had started in phoenix.
but still it was the turn of the century and blacks weren't in the sw like that.

they were in the north northeast and south.

and the nation started in the northeast.

do you know gangs used to be heavy back in the day on the east coast?
and the nation came and brothers grew out that shit.

now.
maybe tomorrow we can talk about how the city and country mice view themselves.

because that plays a huge part.

for instance personally?

to keep it real?
me?

i'm real concerned about how i present myself.

and i'm a east coaster.

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:48:51 GMT

DaCatsMeow said:
Kapp said:
Seriously, if I take care of all that stuff (bills, hair, etc...), then my WIFE (yeah, she better be my wife first and foremost) better be keeping me a clean home, hot meals, and good sex...faithfully. With no complaining...

*******************************
I puts a check next to all that on the list .... I burns in all the rooms in my house (Rachel Ray and Paula Dean cant hold me in the kitchen) ... In the words of of Martin ..."fuck the shit outta ya and make a nucka a sandwich" LMAO
& Who's complaing if the sex is GOOD ???

@ the wheel Barrel ... yes YOU GOT THE RIGHT ONE BABBBBYYYY .... yeah Dump Truck does not have a name out here ... pure beastin !!!! But the TRUCK with one leg up on the chair or bed .... NIIIICCCCEEEEE

Yes ... I'sa married too. Twin .... LMAO ... that would be HOT (Chelle E Bean) .... she my cyber twin
************************************************
Say that shit.....all exceptin I'm ya Twinn! Now Killa know why he on the both of us....SMH

Killa....ya eyes are just messin witcha...go get anotha cigarillo ;D

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:50:23 GMT

Texas_Playa said:
One thing for sure though, THE SOUTH HATES ON NO ONE, THE EAST HATES ON EVERYBODY!!!!!

Its cool to like who you like, but don't be one track minded.
.............................................................the rest got cut off and i didn't feel like going back to correct my cut and paste. What i wanted to say is, i'm from the EAST, i need for all South, North, West, all the darn regions, get it CLEAR, that's a stereotype and i strongly disagree.

Like we had "chicken noodle soup" you had "walk it out" etc. it's what's being exposed on the tv is why SOME CERTIAN folks from the East think like that. Now as for Paul Peezy, he's 21, you got to take in what he's being exposed to on BET, MTV and all that nowadays. that's all they showing for the south. well mostly.

Killa feels the same way and i respect ya'lls opinion, i just want it known though it's not like that. WELL FOR ME IT ISN'T. I have everyone's album. like i said, once i get something my Ocd makes me continue to add to the collection.

off topic here, and my only beef with Soulja boy is my 15yr old was feeling his jams and that's okay, but where's the balance? where's the other teen artist out whose rapping abou some more positive things. Just as i had all types of music to chose from, i want the same for my seed.

Just wanted to add my 2cents whether it's wanted or not.

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:51:00 GMT

chicago2london,
i just don't like to get on here lying you dig what i'm sayin, good bruhva?

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Killa2thaB — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:51:55 GMT

@Lionesse & Z-Ro: Yall cool. Both got a peacful vibe. Niggaz aint misconstruin nuthin yall say. Anyway, I aint no e-gangsta. I aint makin physical threats to internet niggaz. However, if a nigga self esteem aint on point, I can REALLY fuck that up for ya. If you aint got a hell of a way wit words, betta stand down. lol

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dwrite — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:52:23 GMT

BlackPeople said everybody knees go bad , hilarious. Thankz for clarifying what you said. We agree somewhat, Nas and Jay have tried a few different proteges I think. Like Quan and Memph Bleak and others. Alot of mcs have tried that route of going at the top to get smacked back down to their level. A few made some noise, 50 always found a way to keep people talking about him one way or another. Lil Wayne grew his buzz to infinite levels BEFORE he put the album out. It seems new artists try to go the route of those before and never make it happen. Like 50 before he really did his thing his buzz was crazy with the mixtape game and the G unit movement before Get Rich. It hasnt happened like that since, but everybody got into the mixtape game after that. Wayne killed it if off nothing but sheer quanitity of work alone with mixtape and features before the album now watch alot of artists try to put out 300 mixtapes before the summer and not do his numbers. You are definitely right tho Black , mic crowns arent given but they get took. And on that battle subject from before , battles are usually fun but I dont think they are a measure of skill. The best can do it though I will admit. I think hip hop has lost alot of that art of storytelling , not saying its not being done but being done well I think we need more before its gone.........

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shelz — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:52:41 GMT

gracious me....

that was the whole point of giving the lil blub "out of context" because other folks have been removing that fragment from buddens interview without the rest of the sentence. thats why i posted the vid to let you know it was not a shot at pac even tho some folks were tryting to make it that........

some folks round here likes to frown i think

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Kappagem — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:54:01 GMT

hotnuknowit said:
Kapp said alot but this here:
^^^^That is the part where you politely walk away...

You now live in a society where a woman has all the same rights a man does (I N D E P E N D E N T, do you know what that mean mayne!)...lmao

Seriously, if I take care of all that stuff (bills, hair, etc...), then my WIFE (yeah, she better be my wife first and foremost) better be keeping me a clean home, hot meals, and good sex...faithfully. With no complaining...

YOU paying for the hair? mayne...
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See I don't know how to take this one.....
Cause clean house, hot meals & sex? What's life without em? Now complainin? Who doesn't complain? Now if it is some petty shit I can understand BUT complainin for real? You better get started on that robot chick now.....
As far as the hair.... let's not even get started...

^^^^^^This works two fold...

If I'm the breadwinner, and I'm taking care of all this extra miscellaneous stuff, like getting the hair, nails, and toes did, covering all the expenses, etc, etc....

Yeah, I expect my woman to keep everything super tight. I don't think there is anything wrong with that expectation, because I'll be crazy to bust my azz and come home to a hot pocket:)

That goes ditto if you a stay at home niccah, while yo girl is putting in work...

It's not being funny...it's just truth...you get out what you put in....

I'm an attentive man when it comes to a woman, but I've learned you can't be no punk about being real when it comes to gettin' back what you put into something. That's what I'm on Hotnuknowwhatimtalkinbout:)

But I digress...

I'm not paying for your hair and you ain't my girl...(in the Ken P sense as far as we talk here and there and all that).

She don't want me to pull on the hair, then I won't:) She don't want to sweat her hair out, then we can handle business with the AC on, or hanging out the window. It's whateva...

I like freaky women anyways...the ones that WANT you to pull on they hair and shyt.

How many women like to have a man put they hand around the throat as he's taking care of business?

~~~~~~~

@Ken P - Tha Shiznit is amazing....

And I think dayum near the whole second half of his CD felt like a freestyle

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Just curious now...

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 21:57:24 GMT

hotnuknowit said:
DaCatsMeow said:
************************************************ Say that shit.....all exceptin I'm ya Twinn! Now Killa know why he on the both of us....SMH

Killa....ya eyes are just messin witcha...go get anotha cigarillo ;D

***********************************
@ Killa .... and when you do go get 'Rillo, pass it to the left, to the left !!

(AND Check that ass bout that myspace ... she so disrespectful this evening!!!

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Tommy K. — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:02:52 GMT

BP, Kapp, Killa2, Hotnu, Nex... and everyone up in here what's good?

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WhoIsPaulPierce — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:05:52 GMT

Lionesse I appreciate the love, people talkin about hatin when they hate on my opinion, a vicious cycle of hypocrisy, it's all good though people are gonna believe what they wanna believe...if i hated everyone else would I currently be bumpin Everything by Murs? off the Murs for president album, LOS ANGELES LOVE!!! LAKers aint doin shit but much love regardless haha That nigga is slept on though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcGVuT8btqw

Yea u are right tho lionesse i'm trying hard not to be a product of my times, like i said before thats why I pay homage to the old school. I don't even bother watchin MTV or any of that bullshit. Talkin about my sweet 16, look at me i'm rich daddy got me a porsche for my birthday, I'll never know the values of hard work and ethics, but hey at least i'll never have to wipe my own ass

Yo lionesse as far producers go...Premier is all my time I don't care what anyone says hands down the best producer...Next up, the RZA, Pete Rock, And Large Professor....Large professor is one of the biggest reasons Premier is where he is today...Breaking Atoms...A CLASSIC.. Some slept on underground producers Check out DJ Eclipse, he was with the group non-phixion....Ill bill, Sabac, Goretex, they split up but listen to the GREEN CD....that dood is no joke with the beats....Also much love for Statik Selektah on the hometown tip!!!! Q-Tip of course, DJ Gi Joe....he down with Technique, just a snippet of the best from yours truly

Non-Phixion - Food

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqduVN9kv3Q

YALL NIGGAS GOTTA LISTEN THOUGH....LISTEN TO THE WORDS

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:08:30 GMT

Kappagem said:
I like freaky women anyways...the ones that WANT you to pull on they hair and shyt. ---- Is that part of your "crossing over" (sorry if thats the wrong term) to be a Kappa ? HMMMMM

How many women like to have a man put they hand around the throat as he's taking care of business? ------- Throat ... is that considered the same as the back of the neck ???

Kappa-dappa-don, Where do you get this stuff from ... I never heard of such (:-)

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Texas_Playa — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:08:33 GMT

@ PP

Thats the whole point I was trying to make. Don't shit on the next man cause his beliefs or interests are different from yours.

@ Nex Gin

what up bruh...thats exactly what this game is about...PIMPIN
some gonna treat the game like a wife and love her, respect her, and treat her like a queen.....but then the next nigga gone pimp her, treat her like a bitch, and try to make as much money off her as he can...then he gone

my point is this, if the east was still poppin and gettin money in hip hop, then this wouldn't even be a discsussion...don't blame the south for your downfalls....support each other and stop the hate

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The Seventh Seal — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:12:18 GMT

what up Blackpeople1

What's your definition of Hip Hop & where did the word (HIP HOP) derive from?

i'm going somewhere with this, ill be here to go deeper.

anybody else fell free to respond.

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:12:47 GMT

Killa2thaB said:
@Lionesse & Z-Ro: Yall cool. Both got a peacful vibe. Niggaz aint misconstruin nuthin yall say. Anyway, I aint no e-gangsta. I aint makin physical threats to internet niggaz. However, if a nigga self esteem aint on point, I can REALLY fuck that up for ya. If you aint got a hell of a way wit words, betta stand down. lol

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well thank you dear sir.....i know if you,kapp,518 and bp1 outside playing...i'm peeking out the window, cause i know ken p gone be rushing out soon and lord knows i don't want no trouble with the ahh mobsters (lol)

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lioness i hit you back on the e-mail

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hot and cat...you all have please my reading pleasures (wink)
headed home on a few to see what wifey know about what you all discussed (lmbo)

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:16:01 GMT

@hot and dcm i'm too through with ya'll today. and i'm the one thnking i am undercover. i kid, i kid, that's whats up when you married though. It's the rules. :-)

@DCM - i'm feeling the Neptunes.

my #1 is Dj. Preemo (Priemier)
Eric Sermon,
like some of Kanye works,
Large Prof,
Dre of course ( detox is expired lol)
Salaam Remi
The Alchemist
Just Blaze
Diamond D
Hi-Tek
J Dilla
DJ Quik
Havoc
Prince Paul
I could go on, just got started lol.

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:23:28 GMT

Kapp....thats what I meant when I said I didn't know how to take what you said.
Cause a real woman already know that cookin, cleanin, good sex & keepin herself up is part of being a woman....plus like Twin said, if you laying the pipe correctly then what are complaints?? I think we here (unno-nuno) but then you confused me :~O when you said:
"I'm not paying for your hair and you ain't my girl...(in the Ken P sense as far as we talk here and there and all that). "

Now see, with my grown woman I been on since a youngin....if we do it 2 times? Nigga we go together!!!! LOL

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WhoIsPaulPierce — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:26:31 GMT

Texas Pete I shit on the next man/woman because he is my brother and my sister...not to sound like a hippie all corny. WE the people hold the power, we set everything in motion...yet the 10 percenters are the real dictators. For real though homie you have a superiority complex about your "south" dog nobody is hatin on your region. I said i don't like that shake your booty shit PERIOD doesn't matter what fuckin region. I don't like that dumbass Mims aint he from NY? i'm not hatin a region man stop turnin into a north vs south thing...you know who my enemy is? my enemy is terrible music with no substance.

I'm a quote my man Guru for ya Texas Pete

"The mind is a terrible thing to waste

I show love cause it's a terrible thing to hate

Of course I want money, but I won't compromise

Y'all don't realize, think I won't bomb you guys?

With the truth nigga, stop misleadin the youth nigga

Too many wakes and funerals, that's the proof nigga

Our hood's in danger, kids need guidance

You keep lyin, still the young keep dyin"

"A lot of niggaz get cash, and collect Mercedes

But neglect their ladies, and forget their babies

Then the chicks turn and act like dudes

Cause they reflect our light, so yo act right fool

And this is just a piece of my mind, a thesis of mine"

That's music to me homie, and the shit on the radio nowadays is exactly what these lyrics are talking about....the shit you like "2steppin" in the club 2 ITS ALL GARBAGE IT DONT MATTER WHERE ITS FROM"

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:28:08 GMT

Tommy K. what up witcha?
ZRO.....enjoy ya self :D
Shelz....you know tha sayin "opinions are like assholes" ma, everybody gonna have SOMETHING or another to say...
Lionesse....& here you thought you were inna league of ya own? HA!

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mathematics1975 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:33:58 GMT

Whats up Family?
How are the Gods and Earths doing today?

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:34:29 GMT

PaulPeezy i want to kiss you, just joking but for real you from the Bean? man all the cats i run into @ your age are so darn brainwashed. I was getting a little frustrated for a minute there. Peep my lists i posted. that's why i wanted to give you the smacker, you mentioned my fav, Preemo. Large P, that's what's up.

so besides being knowledgeable with the productions and hip hop what's up with you? you in school, working, what's your story?

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Texas_Playa — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:38:30 GMT

@ Lionesse

maybe not for you personally, but generally speaking its the truth...i see it on the boards every day

dudes acting like if it ain't ny hip hop, it ain't shit...everybody entitled to their opinion though

i'm not one to try to shove it down ya throat...if you like it, cool...if you don't, don't listen

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:39:21 GMT

It's too HOT in here today....people leavin talmbout they'll be back, leavin to go try stuff out, then Lionesse kissin folk? Yep...soon as my car is warmed up, I'm out too! Catch ya'll in tha mornin... if I don't see anything that renders a response while I'm waiting

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Nex Gin — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:39:51 GMT

@Texas_Playa
Just because you love and respect what you do doesn't mean that it can't be profitable. I still don't understand where you're going w/ that. The internet and "pimping" of the game is the reason why this shit is in the sewer now. Let me ask you this. You from Texas right? So how do you feel about Scarface leaving the game because of catz who choose to pimp and disrespect it? Scarface is one of my favs...not because of where he's from but because he puts his heart and soul into this shit that he loves...loved...and he isn't 1 dimensional....although he does his gangsta thang well. That's what separates him from your favorite artist that won't be around next year. Take it a step further......it seems like we're always trying to pimp something. There may be riches in pimpin....but there is wealth in longevity. Think about how that pimp mentality affects every aspect of everything black people put there hands on.

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ZRO_Coldest — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:40:32 GMT

Texas_Playa said:
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judging from your avi....you have a deep passiona bout east coast hating the south? what part of texas you reside?

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DaCatsMeow — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:42:42 GMT

@ Zro ... Be easy (:-)

LMAO @ Hot ... school em playa patna On the in's and outs of this woman-hood shiiiittttt.

@ Lionesse ... Undercover ??? Let ya freak flag fly boo boo lmao .... reapeat with me " My name is __________, and I own clear heels and know how to use them"

Back to the beat ....

how could I let you name Quick before me ... THE COLDEST !!!
Guru (he's a bad man)
Kanye --- he's a genuis (yeah I said it) ... ear for music
Roscoe (West cost shit right there, he kills it on the new E-40 )
Clue (he's cold ... just stop yelling over the track)
Mannie Fresh (I got the Wonderful Mind in the car RAGHT now .... <singing> "just me and my beautiful biiioootttccchhh"
and whats TI's dudes name Tupe ??? I think ... gotta look it up ... but hes the business too
Cool and Dre ... when I first heard that "this is this is this is"

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:44:19 GMT

Just thought about something.....NEX GIN? Is that u playa? I mean....you just walkin in rooms & not speakin now? You done came up in the spot....fixed a plate, drank ALL the red Koolaid, got yo foot on the coffee table, smoked 2 sacks & reachin for a beer & you ain't speakin????

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:44:38 GMT

@hot - you def okay in my book. who is ken dealing with? see i'm not married but i def feel what you saying. Heck if you a mother, over 21, you should know the rules. :-)

ken you're killing me with the remixes of the posts lol.

@whoispaulpierce - i cosign, MURS is fire. i'm feeling him.

@kapp- now you know that's a bit much right??? j/k, it's all good, long as no one is getting hurt, I say do you. :-) we all know the saying "lady outside, seductress in the room" aka Roxy, holla. lmbo.

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mu$h da great — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:46:36 GMT

hotnuknowit said:

Now see, with my grown woman I been on since a youngin....if we do it 2 times? Nigga we go together!!!! LOL

lol

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:49:20 GMT

lionesse23 said:
@hot - you def okay in my book. who is ken dealing with? see i'm not married but i def feel what you saying. Heck if you a mother, over 21, you should know the rules. :-)
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Ken_P was just puttin a convo out there (I hope he don't do stuff like that...) but the buck fiddy ponytail still got me throwed!

DCM....the collection? <side-eye...>

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WhoIsPaulPierce — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:54:12 GMT

I almost forgot about Hi-Tek!!! That Reflection Eternal with Talib is one of my favorite CD's of all time.

I"m from taunton right down the road, not sure if u know where that is but it aint 2 far away. dont know if u say my posts the other day but I was in the bean on saturday night Dorchester to Cambridge!!!

Lionesse:PaulPeezy i want to kiss

Haha dont be shy!!!

And my story, boy I dunno if this board has enough room for that...I'm workin right now....pretty much a paycheck thats about it until I get back to schoool...cuz that aint cheap!!!

What about you? What part of Dorchester u in

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BlackPeople 1 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:02:31 GMT

lioness and paul pierce

yo y'all talking my language now about the beats and producers.
yo, paul pierce i can't believe you brought up large pro.

i should give you some of the mixes i threw together and shared with lioness..

what the both of y'all know about the beat conducta madlib?

hotuknowit you crazy talkin about somebody drinkin up all the red koolaid.
y'all got me rollin.

"how do" to miss how you derring too.
she know who she is.

what up, tommy singh and math.

ay yo y'all to the whole crew.

do y'all be buggin off of the dude Spirit of Truth?

that's my shit right there.

one of y'all on this page put us down with it.
but yo.

he be havin me rollin.

he can cuss you out for nuntin.

"say spirit. that's a nice suit you got on."

Spirit: "give a fuck!"

oh lioness.

one time for ya mind.

1. pete rock
2. dr. dre
3. beatnuts
4. diamond d.
5. large professor
6. rza
7. the ummah (includes jay dee and a tribe called quest)
8. havoc
9. erick sermon
10. easy mo bee

from 4-9 the order is off.
but you get the idea.

dwrite. yo it's even more to the passing the torch thing.
but to be continued.

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Five18p — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:03:13 GMT

Damn why we gotta work?

serious?

cant I just own a farm and work the land?

actually that's prolly more work lol

what' y'all talking about?

Aye am I wrong for wanting this back again?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfmUZ1wR69s&playnext=5&playnext_from=QL

Ayo I used to watch them vids back then for the new dance moves, so I could buss em on nigga's at the dances haha

518p-

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lionesse23 — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:04:30 GMT

texas p, i listen cause i have to clarify that it's not like that. you going by the boards, come to our area and you'll notice it's not like that. I felt the need to add my comment, it's an online blog correct? Nothing to like about stereotypes and that's what that is. But i feel you, i'm a peaceful chick so with that said, I shall address you no more, cool.

bless up

@hot- he's 21, from Boston, you have no idea how many of the youth in my area be on that b/s that's on mtv jams and bet. I try to school them, get them to listen to some of the producers i listed (by the way it wasn't any type of order, i was working with my cheech and memory there) :-) Hence why i said i could kiss him. Like how Bp1 felt there's possible still hope? that's how i felt when i read his post. copied and pasted for the teen to peep. I'm debating daily with mine (seed) to see that's not what's out in the south. You can't tell mines, it's nothing but "laffy taffy" out there. that's all he's being exposed to by the massive.

@whoispaulpierce - I must forewarn you, on ahh it's always about a region, shouldn't be but it is. Its a never ending story. I get what you saying though. You put mims out there, lol. one hitter right there.

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hotnuknowit — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:05:54 GMT

BP....I'm JUST tyna live! LOL

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Five18p — Thu, 11 Dec 2008 23:09:31 GMT

oh aye y'all noticed sumin strange about that Special Ed video?

That rap video?

what was weird was the women?

did you see it? lol

They had clothes on

haha, who old enuf to remember videos when women actually wore clothes?

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