You read Part One of Dame Dashs exclusive interview with AllHipHop.com, heres the fiery Part Two
AllHipHop.com: You said earlier that once you reach a certain point that you have to change, evolve and expand. A lot of the criticism that Ive heard in relation to you is that it seems like in the past youve presented success to mean, Ive expanded to where White people accept me now, thats how Im on a new level. But today, in speaking on your expansion, youve spoken a lot about African-Americans.
Dame Dash: My take on that is I never asked anybody to give me anything, I earned. When I went into a room, its not for somebody to cut me a check, its for me to employ somebody. I didnt want anyone to give me a sneaker deal; I wanted the whole company. When I do that, I dont have to be accepted by anybody. The only thing people accept is red ink and black ink. If youre in the red, youre losing. If youre in the black, youre winning. Thats it for me, I went and hired a president I didnt go and look for a president to hire me. I go through with the hat tilted to the side and Im Dame Dash. I dont wanna have to kiss nobodys ass to do nothing, ever.
AllHipHop.com: Whats your and Biggs connection?
Dame Dash: Thats my best friend. He and I do Block Savvy and Armandale together. Overall, every boss needs a consigliore, and Im not saying Biggs is my consigliore, but were each others. Were both bosses, and thats the reason why at Roc-A-Fella, I think everything worked. Hes the only guy thats from where Im from that can actually tell me, Yo Dame, youre buggin, and if hes buggin, I can tell him, Yo Biggs youre buggin. Were partners on a lot of things, and were both each others consigliore on a lot of things as well.
AllHipHop.com: Speaking of friends, you appeared on a song with Jim Jones called Kingdom Done, going at Jay, which sparked the whole situation which had been bubbling for quite a while anyway between him and Diplomats.
Dame Dash: I dont think that sparked it, but just so you know, I didnt make the record. Im not an artist, I would never do that.
AllHipHop.com: So you werent dissing Jay?
Dame Dash: Did it sound like I was dissing Jay?
AllHipHop.com: No, but it seemed like a co-sign
Dame Dash: All I spoke about was Jimmy and Jimmys album, and again, Im telling you now that skit got made months ago. I think Jimmy even said so. Again, Jimmy just took that and edited it. Those are like my little brothers. He called me after to see if I was mad about it or whatever, and I just dont even care, ’cause Im not involved. I’m 35; I’ve chosen not to be in rap no more. I hear about things and I see records that are being made about and stuff, and I’m disappointed, ’cause I would never do that, you know what I’m sayin’? I will never have a beef with anybody on vinyl. Im not a rapper, and for me to try to would be corny, ’cause I’m compromising my brand. But on another level, what am I gonna do, have a beef with Jay-Z? Look at everything we did, that would be dumb. That would be the stupidest thing on the planet for me to have a war with Jay-Z. Actually, for me to have a war with any rapper would be dumb, but for me to do that would be retarded. Now, I could look and see what’s going on, and it’s entertaining. I could see what moves are made, and the next move, entertainment-wise, but keep me out of it. I’m hearing my name in a lot of little things, and I’m very surprised at it, ’cause that’s not the cloth we’re cut from.
AllHipHop.com: You werent upset at all? In essence, Jim threw you into the fire
Dame Dash: If Jay had a problem with me because of our relationship and the dynamics and the men that were supposed to be, men talk about things. We dont go and do things on records. I seen Jay after Cams thing, and I heard he thought I had Cam do that. I said Yo, you wanna talk about it? He said, No, Aight, keep it moving, we aint got nothing to talk about.
AllHipHop.com: He did on the record.
Dame Dash: Thats not how men holler at each other; Im not a rapper. They always do that, Jimmy and Cam I love them to death, but theyre doing what women do. Im definitely not gonna get angry at them about that. Im not starting a beef with them, but Im not starting a beef with anybody.
AllHipHop.com: Did you hear the Lost Ones record?
Dame Dash: Of course I heard it. Again, honestly, I was just surprised, like, “Damn.” On two levels I was surprised: on one tier I was like Damn, this n***a killed The Dynasty because he felt I wanted to be famous? Number two, if thats the case, why he aint never pull me aside and say that? “Dame, you buggin.” Number two: makin’ records about your man like that? So you gonna assassinate my character to sell a record? I was disappointed on a lot of levels.
AllHipHop.com: I believe it’s the next single.
Dame Dash: I know it is. Again, I’m not gonna get into that. We just kinda laugh at it. But I definitely was surprised and disappointed. Think about this: did you ever think that five or 10 years ago Jay and Nas would be making records about Dame Dash? Im not gonna be a part of that, because thats the ultimate level of corniness. I will never compromise the history I made by doing something that corny.
AllHipHop.com: What are your thoughts on Jays album?
Dame Dash:What are your thoughts?
AllHipHop.com: My thoughts are the thoughts of the people.
Dame Dash:Well, you’re the people. What are your thoughts?
AllHipHop.com: My thoughts are it could’ve been better. My expectations were way up here and it didn’t really meet my expectations.
Dame Dash: I cant even objectively speak on it. I would be a fool to come back and make a record unless its as good as or better than anything Ive done. Unless I make history, Im not coming back, thats my thing. Im gonna go and make history with other things, I already made history here. How many times can you make history at the same place? Thats like thinking lightnings gonna strike twice. Oh. it hit here, so Im gonna stay here. Nah, Im gonna go somewhere else to find lightning. Thats what Im tryna do, but again, I look at things differently. I have confidence in myself; I believe I can make it big anywhere. I dont think Im just a big fish in a little pond; Im a big fish in anybodys pond, urban and non-urban.
AllHipHop.com: Whats the problem with our culture and whats the way to fix it?
Dame Dash: The problem is that we glorify people outside of the culture and we consider that aspiration as opposed to saying were the ones that people keep exploiting and making money from. Were the ones that are the strong ones and know how to make the money. I think thats the thing that theres always been a problem with. I dont respect certain people because they pretend theyre bigger than they are.
AllHipHop.com: Is that your problem with Steve Stoute?
Dame Dash: My problem with Steve Stoute is he went and testified against somebody; I dont like that. [In] the cloth that Im cut from, thats considered a rat bastard. I dont do business with rat bastards. I dont care if he gets me billions, the fact of the matter is if youre getting money with a snitch, youre a snitch. Just because it aint drugs, you testify and try to put another man in jail. You sue a n***a because he hit you, thats a snitch to me. The reason why Im gonna publicly say that against another Black man is because I dont want people to think its alright to publicly get money with a snitch. Im gonna make people really understand what that means. Sometimes I ask people, Yo, you understand what a snitch is? Testifying. If a n***a hit somebody in the head with a bottle and tries to hit him in the head saying, Unless you pay me some money, Im putting you in jail, or you try to get the n***a who dont got no money put in jail which was Puffs bodyguard and all them. It aint for me to be talking all that mans business really, but thats a rat.
AllHipHop.com: So are you happy now that you arent in the music business?
Dame Dash: You dont even understand. The thing is, again, I dont have to worry anymore. What I used to be yelling about was I used to be like, Yo, I need to get this done. Next day, did it [get] done? No. Next day, did it get done? No. Next day, Im calling, and no one is calling me back, now my ego is f**ked with cause Im like, Yo Im Damon Dash, you aint called me back yet. Did you get it done? No. Yo! You messin with my money! Another thing I used to get mad about was people trying to take the credit. People remember in Backstage when I got so mad at Kevin Liles. I was mad because he was compromising my brand. He was trying to get branding on something that I built, I was building my brand. Roc-A-Fella does this, not Def Jam. Ive always protected my brand, so if you do something to compromise my brand, which in turn is gonna take care of my kids, I get upset. Again, you know how long it takes to build a brand thats consistent at something? If Im known for being the best, unless Im the best, I aint doing it.
(Chuck “Jigsaw” Creekmur contributed to this story.)