AHHA: Its almost like between Avon and Cutty, theres this really deep level of respect that you dont see between a lot of the other characters.
Chad: Exactly, and it speaks to I think on a lot of levels Avon feels trapped. Every time when [Cutty] said I cant be in the game anymore - If you notice what [Avon] said, his response to that was: He a man today. I was trying to explain to people thats very telling about something internally in him. He feels a certain level of probable doom, a lack of hope. This is the way it is, Ive got to live this out - so to see someone else making an attempt to do something other than that, he wanted to be supportive to that.
AHHA: Well it takes big balls to step out of that game, because youre giving up a lot of things. Not only are you giving up your street cred and all that and your money and things like that, but youre also giving up your protection in a lot of ways.
Chad: Right, and he could have flipped it and killed [Cutty] anyway.
AHHA: Theres a certain code of honor.
Chad: In him as a human being, so when it resonates in that someones trying to deal with their own code, he deals with it. Whereas Stringer, thats why these things really happened to Stringer, he was totally out for self. He lacked any kind of allegiance to anybody but himself.
AHHA: Stringer had a lot of things in his past and I think that he didnt really have the same respect for the same codes of ethics between the different crews. Like when they were saying no more killings on Sundays and things like that.
Chad: But where does that come from? Something happened to him a long time ago where hes detached from people period on a certain level, hes just detached. So whatever level of abandonment or something that he experienced early in his life, he said its all about self and self-preservation, and, Its about playing anybody around me to get what I want. Its all about opportunity to me with him, so thats why I thought it would have been interesting. I wish he was there when [Cutty] said I cant do it anymore. I thought that would have been really really interesting to see his reaction to that. I think he would have been smart enough to plan, it would have been interesting to see him play into Barksdales mentality, to play as if he saw it the same way. Like let Slim Charles say what he said and then play into it. Hes constantly trying to read Barksdale.
AHHA: Yeah he is, I think he was also always trying to put stuff in Barksdales head too and I think he would have been the dude that wouldve said, Aw man, you just gonna let him walk out like that? No loyalty, whats up? I think Stringer wouldve questioned that.
Chad: Yeah, but thats what I was saying, the subversive nature of him though is to read those around him, and at that point say what Barksdale wants to hear and then you see it come down the road where he really stands, like [he s] a phony. You cant really live like that. Not to stray off
AHHA: Its all good. Going into the next season, Avons going in, but hes the only boss now because theres no more Stringer. The streets gotta be [chaotic]
Chad: Well, I mean not really though if you think about whos already holding it down.
AHHA: Whos at the helm though without those two there? Prop Joe, it gives him more of a chance to step in.
Chad: Yeah but they already have a rival, theres already [Marlo] thats a young gun thats there.
AHHA: Exactly and that guys crazy. [laughs]
Chad: I dont know that hes crazy, I think the young man is aggressive, hes smart, hes aggressive, hes hungry and he wants to wear the crown.
AHHA: Mmhm, well he seems to have a really cold its almost like he doesnt even see people as people at all. Hes got this super criminal mentality.
Chad: Right, hes no different [than Stringer], hes like Stringer without a suit on, thats something they always talk about, that its a young mans game. If you go to Baltimore right now the dudes that are slinging and running stuff are really young. Thats whats going on.
AHHA: That makes sense. Lets get off The Wire for a little bit. Any other acting jobs that you have on deck?
Chad: Well, I was able to do a little work in Carlitos Way: The Beginning. Its going back before Pacinos character went to prison, the prequel.
AHHA: Im gonna speak on all of the comments that women make about you. How does it feel to be pretty much considered a sex symbol at this point? The women really love you.
Chad: Well I mean thats great [laughs] - that feels great. I dont see myself as that, when I hear people speak that way. My wife tells me that all the time, so to have that level of acknowledgement thats cool. I think thats what women identify in me. Its like a real man, its not a pretty boy man, its just a handsome rock man.
AHHA: Its almost like they made Cutty and a couple of other characters almost asexual, like you guys are never gonna have a girlfriend on that show.
Chad: Well I dont know, Im not gonna say that because you know, [Cutty] did try to get [his] ex-girl back.
AHHA: We want the characters on HBO The Wire to have sex sometimes because it looks like Stringer was pretty much the only one getting any.
Chad: Well, no, Lieutenant Daniels.
AHHA: Oh yeah, but theyre all doing each other in the police precinct.
Chad: Which is what happens, you work in a certain radius, you end up mating and having sex with the people you work with. [laughs] Thats the thing about them, they hit the bulls eye on all of it, because none of it is random. Its all been highly researched, theyve done books on it. One [writer for The Wire] is 20 years a reporter in Baltimore, one is 20 plus years as a detective. Thats Ed Burns and David Simon - you put those two together, and then the guys that they have as producers and writers all write crime novels and things of that nature. Theyre all like in there.
AHHA: Yeah, Its definitely one of the most amazing shows as far as writing. Between that and The Sopranos, I think just the character development for me are the best shows on TV.
Chad: Yeah which is why it baffles me a little bit that we dont know that theres gonna be a fourth season.
AHHA: Are you serious?
Chad: There hasnt been any official announcement at all.
AHHA: Theres gonna have to be.
Chad: I dont know how they compute these things because theres a need.
AHHA: I think its gonna come down to exactly what happened with The Sopranos, when they were trying to say, This is going to be the last season the fans just went berserk. Like How can you just leave it like this? So they had to go back and make new episodes, and I think thats whatll happen with The Wire, its got a strong following.
Chad: Thats what I said on [Wendy Williams show on WBLS], I said, Look, you guys gotta let the people know that this is what you want, make yourself heard that you want this and then see where they go from there. I dont know the way they compute the numbers, right now Desperate Housewives [on ABC] is cleaning up on Sunday nights. But people also know they have the option to watch The Wire later in the week.
AHHA: Yep, youre [on HBO] In Demand.
Chad: So, its hard - I dont know why they would look at the numbers just from the standpoint of that night.
AHHA: Exactly, what they should be doing is going to the cable company and checking those In Demand numbers.
Chad: Absolutely, well see. I definitely hope theres another season.
AHHA: Me too, I really do.