NYOil: Slick Talker


truth in both context and lyrical poise is Staten Island wordsmith NYOIL. Not a

mainstream rapper by any means, his truth to ear lyrical approach spurns

unworthy MCs that fluster the mainstream Hip-Hop scene. The rapper’s candor,

and lyrical skills, has warranted him the label of a man not to be reckoned


With more buzz

escalating about him, Babygrande Records is re-releasing NYOil's highly

acclaimed indie album Hood Treason on

July 8th. We got some time to build with the NY rap vet and to pick

his brain on a few topics [read : Nas and that album “title”]. Take note of the


AllHipHop.com: So for

those who don’t know, what is NYOIL and what does it represent?

NYOIL: Well you know, "NY" represents the

great state of New York and showing in the way I represent that to me -

represents the foundation core of Hip-Hop, and "OIL"... it has a

couple of meanings. One aspect is... one time a brother said to me that the

entertainment business is to Blacks what oil is to Arabs. I was like, “Wow

that’s heavy man,” and so that spoke volumes to the name but this was after I

had began going by NYOIL.

All of us know oil is

black gold. It is considered black gold, but I consider the Black man, the

Black woman and the Black child my black gold. So in the process for getting

oil you gotta dig deep, it’s an intrusive process to extract fossil fuel. Well

NYOIL is an intrusive process. I’m rough on them, I’m hard shining lyrically on

dudes in terms of what I’m saying. I’m digging deep and I’m going deep. My

lyrical content is deep and I’m trying to do work. I’m reaching that fossil

fuel that was the foundation that was laid by the ancestors and the elders.

It’s transcendent in this Hip-Hop, it’s a Black thing.

AllHipHop.com: You’re

pushing a movement, but were held up for a moment when YouTube shut you down

for a minute because of your controversial video for “Y’all Should All Get

Lynched.” What where you trying to accomplish or say through that record in


NYOIL: Well you know the

thing is man, that’s a question that I’m often asked, "What were you

trying to accomplish?" It’s a natural question, when you look at it from

an industry perspective. But for the sake of answering it adequately, it will

require you to have to change your paradigm and not just look at it from an

industry perspective, but to look at it as just a man. Look at it as a father

and as a Black man that’s living in this world and experiencing this world.

I’m not a thug, I’m not no

drug dealer, I’m not a crook, I’m not no trick, this is not the lifestyle that

I live. I’m a man, I’m a father, I’m a community person. When I came home from

Maryland fam, and I seen the conditions of the neighborhood… I was outraged and

I’m looking at it saying what’s influencing these kids? And the first thing I

see is Hip-Hop because I’m an MC. Hip-Hop is the freaking soundtrack of my

life. I’m sure Hip-Hop is the soundtrack to yours, especially if you’re a

writer. So you see how and you know a lot of people try to fake like they don’t

know, but you know and I know how much of this music influences people.

I spoke as an artist in

that song... that was an artist expressing himself in “Yall Should All Get

Lynched” It wasn’t purposed, it's just… it was what is was. It wasn’t a plot

and I understand the way it comes across and I ain’t taking no outrage to it at

all. I understand it perfectly, but it just really wasn’t that fam. I was just

pissed the f**k off. I can’t take it no more, so I gotta say something and I

can only speak from where I exist. I exist in Hip-Hop, so I can speak to that.

I can speak to this issue there. I couldn’t speak to it as a teacher because

I’m not an educator. I couldn’t speak to it as a politician, I’m not a

politician. I’m an MC.

AllHipHop.com: How did you

derive your style?

NYOIL: Like the way I

rhyme? I had a hard time with your question just now. I was trying to vibe on

it, but it’s not my style, as much as my person. This is the quality of man

that I am and that doesn’t necessarily say that’s it’s a good or bad thing

because depending on the scenario, that could be a great thing depending on

where in converse it could be terrible. For example, you know… we trying to go

to the party and you too deep and you might be a big ol' wet towel like… come

on man, you too deep - I’m trying to have a good time. But you know when it’s

time to get deep, and people need somebody that can build on an issue, then you

right on point.

The type of person that I

am, I’m introspective and I’m thoughtful. I’m not necessarily always right. I

don’t purport the beef, and I’m not even trying to be always right. I’m just

trying to be sincere. I just want to be 100. I want to be able to say that, you

could write about me or he could listen to my music and you might not agree

with my politics but you could say, “Yo… I f**k’s with NYOIL. Man that dude B,

he mean that s**t. This s**t is not an

act, he’s not acting like he loves his people, he not acting like he loves this

music, he not acting like he wants a better world. This is how this muthaf**ker

gets down.”

I know dudes that’s good

dudes, but they focus be the chicks. I know dudes that they focus be that weed.

They got the smokes, they life is revolved around certain things. They a full

human being, but they life revolve around a certain thing and I think that I’m

a full human being who’s life revolves around a particular thing; making music.

I come from MC’ing and not from rapping, and I hate making the distinction

because it’s going to sound like backpackers but whatever. I can rhyme anyway.

I can do any style of rhyme. I come from where you have to rhyme, you gotta

have a sixteen of any type… you got the sex rhymes. You got the, I’ll kill

you dead rhymes, the punch lines rhymes, the funny rhymes and the rhyme for

your girl. You gotta have all of this. I come from that age of rapping you feel

me? MC’ing. So to answer the question to what's my influence… my influence is

really just a lot of stuff.

AllHipHop.com: How much

value do you place on being original?

NYOIL: Well in this world

it almost don’t have any value.

AllHipHop.com: How did you

link up with Babygrande?

NYOIL: Son sent me an

email…like, “You want to put out an album commercially?” I was [like] “OK,”,

and that was the end of that. I figured it would be a great opportunity for me

to expand a brand and make more people aware of what I’m doing because I been

on lockdown with my team. We had plans that transcend before Babygrande ever

came into the picture, but we had maxed out a lot of things. For me personally,

I’m responsible for a lot of things that I’ve done, but a lot of things I’ve

done would not have been possible without the team that I have. But from what

I’ve done, I kinda maxed out.

I was thankful to God that

I had my dude YZ on board and my man NES to get on board because their energy

helped to take it further, but when the Babygrande thing came through… I was

like, Wow man thank God. You can’t front on me now, I’m not a dude that just

puts out his music on the internet. My stock reach has more value, if I say

something now people gotta listen more because I’m not just some scam saying

something. I’m a bonafide artist that a company felt strong enough about to

invest they money in to some extent. But it’s a good look and we’ll see how it

pans out.

AllHipHop.com: On your Hood Treason, you got a track called “Soldier” with Chuck D. That’s a

big look—are there any other rappers that you respect enough to wanna

work with?

NYOIL: For him to do that

was like a big look for me because we talking luck because Chuck had like 13

other songs that he was supposed to do that day and he like bumped me all the

way to the front. It was incredible and I can not thank him enough for that

opportunity to do that aside from the fact that he is another big influence on

the fact that as in all that I represent…what I’m representing as graciously

and as focused as he represented in P.E.

[Chuck D] and Professor

Griff are excellent examples of what revolutionary, pro-Black, socially minded

brothers can be in Hip-Hop. That being said, I would love to do songs with YZ

even though he’s my manager, you know, we got to settle some things on a track.

I want to do tracks with a lot of people that are conscious. I want to do a lot

of tracks with people that’s nice...real MC dudes. I would like to do something

with Immortal Technique and Talib Kweli. I really dig Mos Def, I think son is

ridiculous. I would like to do something with Little Brother. I want to be able

to do things with dudes were I can be creative and have fun.

AllHipHop.com: Speaking of

Chuck D, how do you feel about Flavor Flav?

NYOIL: Flavor Flav is like

the brother that you used to look up to that got locked up on some bulls**t,

and you're mad at him. You're mad because you love him. Flavor Flav represents the

institution just as Chuck D and Professor Griff and Brand Nubian does. So when

Chuck is saying deep s**t, Flav gave it the swag. He was the fly dude, the fun

guy. He was the one that made it illy. So when you see him today allowing

himself to be used as he’s being used, and I’m sure he’s making his bread, I

just wish that it didn't come down to this. But I’d be a real a**hole if I

continued to speak negatively against someone that meant so much to me without

understanding his plight. I’m learning not to have an expectation of people

when they have already fulfilled something. Flav did his job for me already.

Now it’s my turn to do my job and so I can’t be wanting and needing that

expectation any longer.

AllHipHop.com: What did

you think about Nas campaigning to name his new album "N****r?"

NYOIL: I would like to say

the same thing about Nas that I said about Flav, but I think in Nas’ case I

feel a little differently. I think that from his interviews, there was a real

tone of disingenuousness, if that’s a proper way of putting the vibe that I get

from him. I don’t believe him and when I listen to the lyrics, I don’t hear the

insightfulness and the introspection that I would expect to hear from Nas

considering the stature that he has as in some people’s case. In some people’s

book he’s the greatest MC, greatest lyricist, but I don’t hear it.

I don’t believe that he is

going to adequately handle this issue. This is an issue, when you get to

talking about certain things…for example, if I start talking thug s**t right,

the expectation is that I better be prepared to live that thug s**t because

when you talk that thug s**t and you go to different towns muthaf**ers is gonna test your mettle. If I was talking

that pimping hoe s**t, I better be prepared to do what a pimping hoe do. So if

you’re trying to be this conscious dude, you gone speak on conscious issues not

just lyrically but orally and be able to articulate your position. If you can’t

articulate that position, you don’t got no business building on that s**t.

Leave it alone, it ain’t for you.

AllHipHop.com: Do you

think continuing to use n****a in music is taking us back?

NYOIL: I think the fact we

continue to perpetuate the uses of that word is taking steps back as a race. I

mean when do we stop looking at ourselves a n****s and coons and shines,

spades, hambones and s**t like that and start seeing ourselves as freemen,

International Black men and women or the father and mother of civilization?

When will the Black man decide to be civilized and stop blaming the White man

on the s**t that’s happening to us - when we’re perpetuating the greatest evils

upon ourselves?

So when you name an album that

type of thing, it’s bulls**t in the highest order. This dudes name is Nasir...that

name has meaning in Islam. This dude could have named his album Black Man. He’s

such a lyricist, he could have changed trends. You can’t diffuse no word by

perpetuating its use. You diffuse a word by saying f**k that word. I reach out to

you, I say what’s up brother, how you? Have you ever walked into a room where

brothers don’t call each other n****s and call each other Black man… "What

up brotha how you?" That s**t feel warm, it feels good. "Like

youalright"… yeah I feel comfortable, I feel dignified.

This brother could have

perpetuated that knowledge and raised the consciousness of the people. But

that’s not what he brought to the table. He ain’t building no discussion. Some

shorty listening to his s**t ain’t discussing this matter. The only thing he

did was co-sign Eminem and cats like that to call us n****s. He just cosigned

for White people to call us n***a. He had some chick to walk on the red carpet

with a "N****r" shirt on. Him and his wife and not only did [they]

have three other chicks wearing it he had a White girl, an Asian girl and I

think like a Puerto Rican girl. They was around all these famous personalities

wearing these "N****r" shirts you understand. This dude gave no clear

bill, a bunch of mumble mouth s**t. It’s f**ked up, but it just shows you how

major corporations can dress up an artist just to make him appear to be

something that he really ain’t. He ain’t that dude to take on that issue…

that’s why I don’t like talking about dude because I get pissed off because

it’s just f**ked up man. It’s f**ked up that a dude like this could be in a

position like this to be speaking on these matters and sound ill equipped to do


But they listen to this

dude because somebody else told him that he’s one of the illest, so automatically

they just d**k riding the dude. It’s the "Stan Fan"… Stanley

and them that’s on his nuts hard, but you already know that this dude is on his

way out. He doing these flashy things…it's timing. All these dudes like that...

that perpetuate that wickedness, they falling out of favor. The fact that a

dude like me is coming out with a song “Y’all Should All Get Lynched” talking

about these type of mutherf**kers and people loving the song and this s**t

rocked for two years now, and I ain’t doing nothing but elevating [and] showing

they time is up.