or not you rock with Southern music, you cant knock the hustle of
underground artists who manage to build their fan base with little
support from major players. Baton Rouge, Louisiana natives Lil Webbie
and Lil Boosie hold some of the strongest street appeal in their
region, and have taken their flare for new age bounce to a realm of
While theyve had success with solo projects, they ride high with their
Trill Entertainment collective. This time around, they have brought in
crew member Foxx to create the recently-released Survival of the Fittest album, with their first single Wipe Me Down firing up the ringtone circuit.
We sat down for a smoke-filled conversational adventure with the trio
during their visit to New York. Normally the quiet one of the bunch,
Boosie had a lot to say this go-round as we discussed censorship, the
vets of the Louisiana game and exactly what Trill Fam has up their
sleeve for the future.
AllHipHop.com: The last time you guys talked to AllHipHop, specifically
you Boosie, you were trying to separate yourself from Webbie
artistically. You guys have done a lot of songs together on a lot of
projects, why did you end up doing a group album so close together?
Boosie: The group album was to spread our hustle. Its just not us on the group album, we got like five other artists
Webbie: Me and Boosie are the backbone of Trill Entertainment. Were
trying to expand Trill Entertainment this year. Were trying to start
off the year with the group album. We got me, Boosie, Foxx, Big Head
and like three more other artists on the album.
Boosie: We got Mouse coming out, hes doing the tracks and hes
rapping. Mostly in-house producers, just the family on the album and we
just putting it down. Mouse and B.J. on the tracks, we just happy to be
where we at and everything is all good. Got this group album finna
come, thats whats up.
AllHipHop.com: Since the two of you are the backbone of the group, what
are you doing to help Foxx distinguish himself on this album?
Foxx: I done already proved my point, I done made a mark. Thats why its Boosie, Webbie and Foxx Presents: [Survival of the Fittest]. I done already did what I had to do.
Boosie: He gotta learn from being in the game, he a man. You could tell
a man, but he gotta learn from his mistakes in the game. You gotta
learn from yourself, all I could do is tell him [to] come on. I cant
make him come on or anything, its up to him. Plus Im not a CEO, I
cant be like, Ay you gone be here! and all that, its up to him.
Hes in a good position.
AllHipHop.com: Foxx, since these two are so closely associated together
in the public eye, what are you doing in terms of distinguishing
Foxx: Basically being myself, Im not trying to sound like him or him.
Im just doing me because its only one Boosie and one Webbie. Thats
where a lot of people mess up at, I knew that before I even started
rapping and thats probably why Im at where Im at now. Doing me and
not trying to follow the next mans footsteps, I got a different sound
so Im not sounding like them.
AllHipHop.com: How important is it for you guys to pay homage to
original Bounce music, and how much do you feel you wanted to take it
and make it your own?
Boosie: Really we dont look at it as Bounce music, we look at it as our
feel for music We dont take off of that Bounce music, we take off of
that Mouse music, I guess. [Laughs] Once he taps that beat up, anything
can be made on it. We dont look at it as Bounce music because Bounce
music started in New Orleans. Were not from New Orleans, were from
Baton Rouge. So we dont look at it as Bounce music at all - when them
beats come, we know how to make people dance, fight, women drop they
pants. We talented, we aint on no bounce s**t, dont think just
because of Wipe Me Down we got songs just like that. We got bust yo'
Webbie: We got every kind of song, its versatile. It aint no one
thing you could point out about the crew. You could get a big Bounce
hit and feature me on there, we could roll on there and go hard. We
just hear the beat and rap.
AllHipHop.com: With you guys being from Louisiana, do you feel that a
lot of newer rappers havent given [artists like] Master P and Mystikal
enough credit for what they did for the game?
Boosie: Really, I think the people who was really in their prime still
give them their credit. It just goes from generation to generation.
Webbie: I aint forget what they did. Mystikal and them not getting their credit - theres a whole lot behind that.
Boosie: People who are really Mystikal fans [are] still Mystikal fans.
They got some people who might be 16 or 17 who dont really know about
Webbie: A real fan is gonna be here tomorrow. I was a Mystikal fan, I
was a C-Murder fan. Im still here and I still wanna hear what they
gonna drop till this day.
Boosie: As generations go on, the younger generation might not know all
of Master Ps hits like us. They still legends, its just like as time
develops on people fade and thats how it is. Nobodys hot forever.
AllHipHop.com: Do you guys feel that being in that middle range you have the responsibility to educate people on the history?
Boosie: I feel bad a lot of times when people say, My child did this
because of your music. That be gettin to me because I dont want my
music to make people kill people. I feel bad about that, when they do
that I go in there and write a song about a girl.
Webbie: Coming from nobody wanting to lend you nothing to nothing, I
never had a nine-to-five [job]. Either you gonna go get a job, you
gonna beg or you gonna steal. Coming from that, my only responsibility
is taking care of my kids and paying my bills. Mothers that wanna come
talk about, You made my kids do this Thats your responsibility. All
my responsibility is, like I just told you, to pay these bills and get
Boosie: If you dont want your kids to listen to the music, dont
listen to it. Dont come at us with it because that be a burden on my
shoulder, I dont like that. If you dont want your kids listening to
rap music, turn it off.
Foxx: I feel like if your child willing to do something he heard on a song, thats your fault.
Webbie: Im talking about being creative and making this money. Saying
what we want on any beat, not like these dudes watching Usher versus
Jay-Z the playoffs. Thats what its about, getting this money. They
said what they wanted to say and got that money.
AllHipHop.com: Were talking about saying what we want to say we have
the big topic of discussion right now with Don Imus, Kramer and Oprah,
etc. Do you feel you have any responsibility for cursing or censorship?
Webbie: More than a million girls you know go and look it up on the
Internet and they love it. I feel like this, I bet my house, chain and
cars you dont have to listen. You dont have to sit there and listen.
You dont have to sit there and say, Listen to what he said, listen to
what hes calling her. You dont have to do that, all you gotta do is
turn it off or walk away. Oprah, you too rich for that.
Boosie: Thats part of the reason why Wipe Me Down aint aired on BET right now to this moment.
Webbie: Me personally, I dont listen to Country music. Not saying I
dont like Country music, Country music makes too much money, so it
might be a day I collaborate with a Country person and maybe do that.
But I dont listen to Country music, so when Im flipping through the
radio and Im pushing seek and I hear a Country song I push seek again.
I keep going, I aint sitting there listening for nothing bad for him
to say to go start a big riot about. I keep going I just dont listen
to that music. When you push seek, you hear one of us and you look
outside your window and they jumping in their car listening to the same
station as you. If you dont wanna listen to it push seek again.
Boosie: You made your money doing your thing, let us make our money doing our thing.
AllHipHop.com: You guys definitely deal with a lot of sharp racism
living in the South. How do you feel about white people using the N
word and then using the excuse, Well the rappers say it?
Webbie: I got pulled over the other day, White man was like, Yeah boy,
you in redneck city now. Its still out there, but I got White
friends, so when I say Whats happenin, n***a they say Man you
called [that White boy] I dont be trying to do it, so if you feel
offended, my bad, but if it slips He probably be done told me back,
Whats happenin, n***a, if were chilling like that. A n***a is
different from a n****r.
It probably sounds funny, but for instance the other day Im in Houston
behind a 18-wheeler with a White boy and his old lady, a young Black
dude is near the car he hops out in the middle of traffic acting like
he finna punch him because he thought the White boy was scared. The
White girl is grabbing her boyfriend like No, just leave it alone but
he hopped out like, What, what, then he hurried off and turned him
off with the 18-wheeler. He gets something from off the back of his
truck and gets to ramming the car like Get back out, b***h. Im
respecting the White boy, Im like Yeah he thought he was finna punk
you. But the only thing that f**ked me up, what he do at the end? [He
said], You f***ing n*****r.
Aw man, you just changed the whole [thing], you did it wrong. Any Black
person would have punched you because you did it wrong.
Boosie: Its just how you say it, you could be White person and if you
say, What up, n***a, Im a give you a hug. But if you say, You
n****r...Its how you say it, the way you say it to a person.
Webbie: [Don Imus] tried to prove a point, you cant prove no point.
N***a is a part of language to me, so I dont even pay attention until
its like, You n****r, like slavery. Just like me, my names Webster
Gradney, Jr. The day I was born, instead of naming me Junior they named
me Webbie, it got all over the state. My names Webster for real, they
think about the little short dude or whatever theyre thinking about;
when you just say, Whats happenin Webster? on some real life
because thats my name its different from saying Hey Webster because
thats when I show up. Just like a n***a and a n****r, dont get it
twisted into thinking Im a Webster, Im Webbie thats what Ive been since I was born.
AllHipHop.com: What do you want everyone to know about the evolution of the Trill family with this album?
Webbie: Man, we f**kin making noise this year, we got 2007-2008 in the
trunk. Everybody gonna be like Man where everybody at? All these
rappers gonna be like, Man what the f**k happened in 2007-2008? We
got that s**t in the trunk and we finna ride out.
Webbie: Its a big coming out for Mouse, he the one doing most of the
tracks and hes rapping on there. Its a big coming out, especially for
Boosie: We was in the drought, but we already put 2007-2008 in the
trunk then Foxx came out the house like, Let me roll. I was just
finna pull off then he jumped his ass in the drop and now we finna ride
off real fast for 2007-2008.
Foxx: We finna come with album after album after album, like that old No Limit.