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RAPMAN TALKS AFROFUTURISM
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Sep 24, 2024
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What's going on world
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It's your man, Chuck Kreekmer, aka Jigsaw, here at the BET Awards 2024
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and we are here with none other than Rap Man, the fame director
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who is also the only director signed to Jay-Z's Rock Nation. What's up
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It's good, ma. How you doing? I appreciate you. Thank you for ever, me, ma'am. We've talked to each other virtually before, and this is the first time we've caught up in person
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so it's good to meet you in person. Same likewise. Definitely. So first things first, what are you
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excited about with this BET Awards? Well, I just heard that Walt Smith
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performing. Yeah, that is crazy. That to me, where the last time we saw Wolf Smith
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getting jiggy with it, man? So, yeah, that's the story. I'm looking forward to seeing Walt Smith
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Yeah, definitely, definitely. So let's talk about your new series, Supercell. Super Cell
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We just had an off-camera conversation about superheroes and this culture that has been really growing through the years
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So talk to me about the series. So a supercellar is about five regular people from South London
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who unexpectedly come into superpowers. And that might sound like your typical storyline
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for a superhero show. But none of these guys don't wear spandex
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They don't wear masks. No capes. These are people in poverty. Some in gang wars
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Some going through relationship problems. Some broke on their face. So you can only imagine what they do when they get their powers
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Right. And it's a journey, man. It's on Netflix now. It's causing a big buzz
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I just think it's one of the illies shows to come out for a long term. And I was talking to my homie just yesterday
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He texted me and he was like, yo, I think this is something. He calls me the hokster because my favorite superhero is the Incredible Hall
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Yeah, yeah, same with me. Same with me as well. Okay. Until, no, until Phanos smacked him in so much, you didn't come out
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Oh, okay. You know what? We're going to talk about that in one second because that's my biggest gripe
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But what prompted you to do this series? Like, what? We don't see
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I love the genre. I'm a superhero I used to love all the
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I used to collect the comics I used to have the X-Men cards but I never understood
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the reasoning of the master cape and I never saw us you know so I wanted to put black people in that space Right Black people in sci If you look take away Marvel in D what all black car sci do you have
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Take away Marvel in D.C. So that's no black light, no black panther. Oh, absolutely nothing
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Until now? Yeah. Now you got Super Cell. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? No, I will say
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There's a few others. Like, back in the day, there was a comic called Brotherman. But live action film that you can visually watch
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None. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Mr. T. T, maybe, if you remember. Mr. T? You remember Mr. T
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Yeah, I pity the fool. Well, that's not a comment, but, though. That's the 80s. This is powers
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Like, our people got super strength, super speed. In real life, too, by the way. Telekinesis, exactly
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Like, our people are flying. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a whole different thing. Yeah, now, if you go far back enough
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some people will say that, like, Superman is derivative of Egyptian culture and they have borrowed
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I think I've heard things like that before. Yeah, yeah, definitely. So, let's get back to the Hulk
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So I'm just, going to tell you that they did the Hulk dirty. I'm upset about it to this day
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Yeah, I can't, I can't rock with the Hulk no more. Right. I can because I know. I don't mind losing the fight, but at least go through the
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fact, man. They did them dirty because he should have, he should have came, he should have
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in the last one end game, he should have been able to get. Yeah, he should have redeemed
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himself. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So how is it being signed to Jay Z's Rock Nation? And how did that
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even happen? It's great being with them. I've been with them since
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2018 so they're like family now I was putting that short YouTube videos like
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musically narrated shorts on YouTube I've done one called Shiro's story and he went viral throughout the whole of the UK
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a guy called James Samuel who's a filmmaker as well good friends of Jay Z
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he's the bullets yeah there you go the bullets that's the there you go there he saw it
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loved it saying to Jay Z and Tai Tai literally three four weeks later I'm in Jay Z's
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has starting to Ruttonation That's dope. Bullets is my dude, man. He's so cool
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Yeah, big up James, man. That's my dog. Yeah, yeah, no doubt. So let's, you know, you have, you call yourself rap, man
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Yeah. Can you I know why but tell people why you have that name I used to rap a lot you know and I used to rap stories So my biggest thing was you know like it was all good just a week ago
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Today was a good day. I was a proper storytelling rapper. So all my songs, that was my forte, you know
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And I realized what I was doing that because I was going from where I was from
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could have made films or TV. So I was doing what I could do, turning these little short films and putting them on YouTube
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So because of that, I just ended up getting a nickname, rap man. Because in the UK, rap wasn't a popular culture at the time
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It was a different point when I started doing it. So that's a stock of the name. So they call me rapts now for short
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But the storytelling still to say, we are still doing it on the bigger platform now. Okay. Who are your favorite rappers, period
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But if we want to send home in on the UK, who are your favorites now
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So favorites all time, you've got to go. I'm going with two-pat, Biggie, Naz, Jay-Z
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Yeah. If you're talking about in the UK, gigs, Dave, scraps, nines, gets
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Those are probably like my favorites in the UK, yeah. Now, the UK, I mean, not to get political or anything
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but the UK has been kind of intentional about not letting drill prosper over there
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Is it, is it? The politicians feel like it, you know, it causes more gang violence
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you know but music's always going to be there i don't i feel like they're a bit harsh in that but
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joel they couldn't stop it though joel still pops in the uk yeah right so you know
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do you have any plans to maybe do a comic book book version of the supercell or or uh you know
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super action figure you know as i was saying i want to i want the costumes to become like
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costumes for comicon costumes for halloween see our squid games yeah that's the that's the
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Halloween outfit now. Right. I'm hoping that if the show does what it's meant to do, you know, we can have SuperSel, you know, questions coming
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Yeah. That's the plan, man. Definitely. I can't wait to see it. No, don't. So let me get your top five superheroes of all time
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Now, you can't have your own in there. Okay. Okay Take out Supercell I say Superman Okay Superman Hi man Batman Okay Spider
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Okay. For Hulk. Okay. And, um, Black Panther. Black Panther. How did you feel about the, the not recast, I should say, with Black Panther
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Did you, were you team recast or did you feel like they did it proper? By making it, well, the Titian Rite who played
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and the Black Pound for number two she's a good friend of mine so big up Letitia man
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Yeah yeah yeah big at Letitia So I'm happy that she got her chance to shine man
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And I think it's smart Like I wouldn't I wouldn't be against a recast
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If they decided to do a recast For another movie But I suppose only they know what type of pact
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They had like Chadwick would have said If I'd go someone else
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I don't know I don't know I think if they had his wishes to do it
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Go for it Yeah Yeah. What are your wishes for sort of the future of the genre of sci-fi, black people, Afro-Futurism
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I think we need more shows like this. I'm over here promoting a show of All Black Car Sci-Fi, and you take away DC and Marvel
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There's no others. There needs to be a plethora of them. I'm hoping that this starts to a little side effect of more and more to come
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We've got black people in space. We've got black people with powers. We've got, I don't know, black people
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people ripping, I don't know, running on the moon. Whatever it is, man. I just want, I want there to be more black people in Saifa
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Yeah, well, I appreciate the UK's voice in all of this. I remember John Boyega was in a movie a long time ago
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I can't remember. The Star Wars movie? No, no, no, before Star Wars. Oh, attacked the Block. Attack the Block
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then he was in Star Wars. And then, forget Dan Kalu
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Daniel Kaluah. Kalu, he just dropped a dystopian. Yep. Kitchen. Yeah. And that was, that was, I like that too
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Yeah, Big up Daniel. Yeah. So we're seeing some progress. Yeah, we're getting there, man
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We're definitely getting there. And I'll spend the more than area, ma'am. Yeah, absolutely. Well, I appreciate your time
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Thank you for your time, bro. Yeah, definitely. Can we get a shout-up for all hip-hop? Yo, Donno
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This is right, man. Super Cell creator. Big up all hip-hop every day
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Yes, sir
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