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Jan 14, 2025
Philly rapper E. Ness is coming in 2025 HOT! The Beastie Boys are Culture Vultures? He gives a new perspective on the Diddy situation, as somebody signed to the Bad Boy mogul. Did he apologize to Dylan Dilinjah? He also discusses ageism in Hip-Hop and how he's made it for over 20 years. He reveals the status of his kids, who did not follow in his footsteps. Check out this exclusive with @ChuckCreekmur and @djthoronyc ... AllHipHop, baby! 🎤 Black Thought and Dave East join forces with E. NESS on his new album - "E. NESS and Friends Part 2." 👉 Support real Hip-Hop and join the conversation! Like, comment, and subscribe for more authentic hip-hop content. CHAPTERS: 00:00 - E Ness on Beastie Boys, MTV and Hip-Hop 07:32 - E Ness on Diddy, Bail Denial and even Lil Durk 12:13 - His Apology to Cassie? The Discussion 18:02 - Black Men in Entertainment: Can They Make A Clean Exit? 25:26 - Ness on "Beef" with Dylan 29:19 - Ness's Current Business Ventures 30:53 - Age Limit in Hip-Hop 35:37 - Immature Veterans in Hip Hop? 38:00 - Drake's Energy Around Suing UMG 39:41 - Kendrick Lamar's Cultural Impact 41:40 - Kendrick Lamar's Hits vs. Drake's Hits 47:05 - Should Drake Respond to Kendrick AGAIN?
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all hip hop in the building I can't even get my intro outright it's your man Chuck Greek aka jigaw jigaw withj DJ
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thorough with eness Philly finest MC but
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okay we've been talking we going right into it eess
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coming in hot in 202 talking about the Beasty Boys being culture
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vo I gotta get your explanation on this and then we can debate about it but first of all just tell wh how did
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you why did you even say this to us I don't know I just felt like they was forced on us I mean they did have some
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dope records Brass Monkey um licens to Ill dope they had they had some dope
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records it just feel like back then they was forced on us
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by who the label Russell because it was really it was real young back then
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Russell it was really just Russell and Russ Russell signed Beasty Boys but
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didn't signed his own brother he couldn't they were in a they were in a record contract a binding 10 album deal
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with profile records we know it's some way to bring them over there we know in the game RC was but he managed them he
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managed he managed him that's why you always believe in him no stop believe that's not true that's not not true
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that's not that's name they told him to Run DMC he was like that's whack son
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they told him it's whack Russell told him to Run DMC the name was whack that's
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different though no we getting off we getting off the T right now but what I'm saying is Beasty Boys they had some good music they was like the party Wild Bunch
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they was like the uh the jackasses of hip-hop I would say like that with their ant the first album definitely that it
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was drinking it was partying it was like more frat fraternity uh boy music as opposed to Urban neighborhood music
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which was dominated the culture back then and the reason why they was the wild boys of hip-hop at the time they they was a punk rock band first that's
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what I'm saying thing about punk rock that music so the whole transition of MTV um MTV not playing hip-hop until uh
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the king of rock with Run DMC and then Beasty Boys kind of was highlight highlighted when they start letting
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hip-hop acts on MTV which was the biggest platform at that time for videos right it was for sure well let's be
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clear no black person was getting played if it wasn't for Michael Jackson yeah that's a fact Michael Jackson started no
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for sure so Michel jaon Surly uh
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introduced what was going on in the urban community through his music and through his performance the pop locking
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the slot and all that was what he took from the urban community to kind of like
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introdu it subconsciously through mainstream music and and on the same
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note the label really forced MTV too they were like okay you won't play him
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take you're not playing you're not you can't any of our artists but but the BS
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you know respectfully man I hear I I don't think they were culture roers I think they were authentic New York
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artists right but they were versatile to me so they were quick to pick up hip hop
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and you know what when they tried to dress like B boys and look crazy like they shut it down be that's what I'm say
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and then they came to the table hipop but as thems and I think that that was actually dope and yeah they didn't they
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sort of moved on from boom B I don't even it wouldn't I would no I wouldn't
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even say that because if you listen to the second album PA re and five buros they continued to make authentic hip-hop
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B was where they could have just abandoned that sound if they was not authentic they were accepted by the
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urban culture but I just think they was the agenda was pushed and it was well talented artist I tell you that was
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there with them on the same waver length that could have been promoted I'll tell you who was a culture vulture in hip-hop
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y'all probably don't realize Kid Rock oh know that his first album he tried to mimic
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the BC boys and he did's terrible terrible Detroit won't even stand on
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well let me not say what Detroit will or won't do n it's it was a time for it just like it was a time for Hammer just
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like it was a time for vanilla ice man I don't know why people don't give him I like vanilla ice though I was doing my Vanilla Ice research I'm listen not as a
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rapper as a dancer and as a performer Vanilla Ice had a definitely good stage presence okay and that's not like front
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when when his song came out he was rain he had a he had a rain it was like parallel now I would say parallel
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but it mired what Hammer was kind of doing when vanilla cop what Hammer was
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doing now let me say this I'm a I'm a brother in the fraternity Alpha F Alpha
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right now his first record says Ice Ice Baby now that's a alpha term that's a
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alpha phrase that he took and used in a pop culture form and for me I wasn't I
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wasn't an alpha then but being one now if I was an ala at that time I'd be I I
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would hate him cuz it's it's literally appropriation okay literally but I will tell y'all this I interviewed flavor
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flave few weeks ago maybe a month ago month or two and said something about
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Vanilla Ice and yo flave St stood up like nah he's not a he's not a KRA VRA
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he's a great person blah blah blah so I think we might be able to get an interview with him to talk about this no
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no no with Vanilla Ice Rob Van Winkle Rob Van Winkle's been ducking me for
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years decades your mother so I'm I'mma hold off my um you
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know my judgment of Vanilla Ice for the time being but you know without those guys uh hipop would not have grown the
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way it grew period Beasty Boys I wouldn't say they craw because they they
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flourished in hip-hop at a time I would say they walk so Eminem can fly it's the
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same kind of like content almost the quirky pulling down your pants and mooning and drunk and high and just
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having fun that that just wild Untamed they call it white boy white I never forget the boys New Year's Eve on MTV oh
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yeah man oh my when was that what year was that it was somewhere in the 80s I mean probably L late late 80s I think
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yeah I was I was I I was in hip-hop by that time yeah like I was like fully you
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know some some people just like they can remember this time no but I was like fully break dancing trying to write my
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own raps maybe like towards 89 into the like 90s and early 90s good
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period definitely definitely I want to defin I want to talk about your break danc later later later I want to I want
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to get into that later in the uh in the in the chat um I lowkey forgot where I
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wanted to start this conversation they threw you off for the
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right tell th tell th dare you I got I got I would start cooking fast oh I know
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where I wanted to start where we where we ended off last last time did he did he do it did he do it do it CU you sir
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sh out to campaign I did it I did call it a Samar campaign and it's crazy where
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we at 365 another 365 um nothing really I can say about that I
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did put out a record called did he do it and it seems it seems some mixed reviews
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a lot of people thought I was trying to um capitalize off of his Misfortune but
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it it wasn't a disc record it just was uh I would say
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uh like a just conscious Recon on a tip where is um it's a pattern how they're
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attacking all our black billionaires mainly and if they could do it to him they can do it to anybody yeah that's the basically the record saying a lot of
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people oh man you why you ain't say that when he was outside I was with him when he was outside and I learned a lot of stuff from puff and you know what I mean
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lot of things that I learned from him I still use today and that's one of the reasons why I'm still around from other
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qualities and tricks that I learn from being around him the time that I did so basically what I can say man we all
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goingon to just find out what's really going on in the next six to eight months and you know nobody really knows you
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know mean they still not giving him any Bell right not giving him in a bell but they they did throw out I guess they
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were trying to you know I mean use whatever they found in his cell against him notes that he wrote down I think they threw that out they seen that on
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online somewhere but I don't know the specifics of it but I know I don't know as time goes past man it just seems like
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they don't know they really don't got they still trying to investigate him why he's locked uper y'all not y don't have
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right the feds only come when they got already locked killed and locked sealed
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and I mean so I'm thinking if they still investigating listening to his phone calls y already supposed to have the
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Nell in the coffin already coffin right I don't know if it was AI or not him did you see the video apparently him riding
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around riding the motorcyc motorcycle I said oh I'm like what the out a motorcycle scooter I didn't even post it
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cuz I was like like is this like I'm not surprised they got got wearing jewelry in jail wearing Gucci sweaters and real
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clothes and having liquid money in the jail phones iPhones so I wouldn't be surprised yeah yeah it's just his
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influence as his impact and you know what I mean in your opinion can he come
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back from this anybody can come back from anything Helen Keller was deaf and
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dumb and blind she became a millionaire she wasn't dumb though you know what I'm
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saying just saying but what I want to say is it's America I've seen people go
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from the lowest to the highest and people go from the highest to the lowest right now Dirk that's another that Dirk
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we I don't know if he's coming home I don't know if he's coming home but puff he might be it's some wiggle room in
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there it's some wiggle room some wiggle he got the money I mean at the end of the day it's going to be real
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interesting to see to me how the um trial goes right because not liking
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something and it being illegal are two different things that's true you know
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what I'm saying like having a thousand bottles of baby oil is not a crime is
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not a crime no it's not a crime but in the Public's perception and one of the fed's
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main objectives is to discredit already discredited you so before you even hit a court of law and and the people's
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perception of you is already yeah so they've they've did their damnest to do that they denying him Bell they just
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trying to make him suffer and feel like puff his money can surpass all that it can outlive all of us so I don't know he
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maybe they trying to play the long game maybe he's trying to play the long game but the more that he's in
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there when he first went in I'm like he gonna do anything to get out he might give away half his fortune to try to get out but I think now that he's it's been
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like what almost 90 days yeah he he already dug in and everybody
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is he done bended everybody in there to his will it's like he's home only thing is it's not
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here begging to make his bed up but I knew that I knew that figh who G to go
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sh because we in a climate where the little homie is the big homie if you got some money I seen 47 year old men
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calling 25 year olds big homie cuz they didn't hit a lick and got some money so that's where we at with it now a cold
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killer a call puff a run behind puff and do whatever because When am I'm come up
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on this chance right of being around somebody that influential and holding on to that much paper yeah that's crazy so
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and poor G de he came came home and puff went in yeah that's crazy that's crazy
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anyway crazy um do you feel like you should is there anyone you should
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apologize to like Cassie or anybody like that like do you feel like you wronged anyone with your
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viewpoints um probably but you know I mean it wasn't wrong when we was walking around Brooklyn for cheesecake it wasn't
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wrong we was getting exploited on TV so now that I'm the exploiter don't don't get mad that I'm
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exploiting CU when it was when we being exploited it was okay oh y'all made them
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kids walk they ain't got nothing to do with music why you making them work out why you making them read the book why
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you doing them like that right don't do it now everybody got pics and that's with the world you know what I mean that
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[ __ ] they got to get out of that man they always picking they battles and pick why you saying that why or what why
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do we say anything why does DJ academic sit in the comfort zone of
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his crib and pop his and go unscathed why does Adam 22 get to talk amongst
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real life hardened criminals and gangsters and cripping blood members and go and scathe because he has a platform
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once you have a platform you build a voice that builds security that's almost kind of certain protection right your
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public figure have you received any direct back backlash from any anybody from the Bad Boys Camp being that you were a part of bad boy no nobody said
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hey man even even a freestyle that went viral shout out to Cosmic Kev come up show freestyle went viral I dropped some
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some Hy makers in there about the whole situation Justin liked it King coms
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liked it cuz I'm not dissing them I'm just telling y'all like leave puff alone they got bigger things to worry about
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it's all misdirection they want y'all to pay attention to puff and Dirk while they doing some crazy over here then
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after that smoke clear is in is aliens and New World Order you got to get mandated and go into cont we ain't
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trying to hear that just just be woke that's all I'm saying puff is not they just that's what people do that's what
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the coliseums was built for that's was football and basketball entertainment go look at that while we we we changing the
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world right under y'all noses that's a fact yo just a week just a week ago
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there were car siiz drones flying over Philly and Jersey what where where did
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they go did you see him I think I saw him I definitely heard one I've heard
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before the pandemic when you start seeing all them big ass trucks them army trucks coming
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through the city they already got the ready they already got this they got the
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guillotin they got the mark of the beast they got the lines they got the facilities pretty soon it's going to be make a choice you want the mark of the
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beast they go The Guillotines right there they got the military on the
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outskirts of every major city wai for the Revolt toen cop cities
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everywhere it's already in it's already in place so I I will say this our people
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have been trying to fight the cop City situation in Atlanta they're bringing it to New York it's it's going to LA or
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well in in Cali somewhere it's it's a it's a thing Thug came home so it's like
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man I don't know why I'm D Melly like he about to come home so man this look
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Goofy I've I've never seen such incompetence before I seen a YSL
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trial I've lived in Philly my whole life and that's a that's a uh Commonwealth
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Judiciary System they don't play all that talking back and how he was carrying at a state level City fed level
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yeah it's no it's no wiggle room to talk like how he was talking so once I seen that I'm like what is this what is I'm
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watching a reality show like what is this I never seen you're not even allowed to speak in these type of
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structures man you unless yours being spoken to all the ab live I keep tell y'all keep telling me the same thing
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I've never seen that before so in seeing that I'm like anything can be done man anything can be anything is anything is
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possible out here yeah we sure paid attention to that till it was just made him a star he's doing 20 verse ones back
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to back he on all the popping platforms he was cold rat and he said he
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ratted and he said he ratted the lie to get him him out of situation he said he was forced on him I never seen somebody
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lied to the government Woody oh yeah when he said he lied on Thug because they kept pressing him and kept jacking
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him up and kept arresting him I've never seen no one sign a deal proper agreement to the state saying I said this and this
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documented and get in court and say N I just said it to get out my because y'all kept asking me about him so I told y'all
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to go ahead and not get rearrested and recharged and detained again I've never
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seen nobody do that no I think they do that because his credibility at that point is not invoid so if you're
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admitting that you lie to lie but that's perjury you li you lied judicial system
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but he but he flipped it saying they coached him into it they uh coerced him yeah coer him into it which which is
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also I I don't think is that illegal it's officially illegal that's illegal
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but I don't know man he he's mentally incompetent so even taking something
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officials document without having a professional in the room right while he's being
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interrogated legal he's not a sound body and mind you can see clearly yeah something's wrong with him not saying
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that he's a stupid person but he has a mental imbalance yeah well shout out to
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my man Dennis Byron he uh he covers the he covered the whole thing and uh he's a
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good journalist shout out to him he kept me really dialed in cuz it just kept going on and on and on yeah man that was
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just circus of a circus of a let me ask you something um can a black men I'm
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specifically talking about black men get out of the Music Hollywood entertainment
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game clean is it possible I'm GNA thorough
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answer you like this the first time you ask somebody a question and they made me answer that's that's he deferred to you
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I mean what's your what's your definition of clean what do you mean well you know what clean is I mean first
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of all I will say that Denzel Washington so far looks good yeah okay we got put
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in bubble yeah he doesn't do compromise Steve Wonder Steve wonder and Denzel right seem to be pretty good but you
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know they went at Jay-Z crazy um Jay-Z man Brooklyn Jay-Z showed up last year
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um you know he pretty much proved his innocence I mean it's still in this pre litigation but right um yeah I mean I I
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don't know that I think I don't think I don't know if it's possible I don't think I don't know I think it might be possible for people that are
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grandfathered in like Denzel right but once you hit a billy a billy it all depends on what you like throw said what
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you what you define clean would you define clean because um if I could quote um I could Define ludicrous as clean
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it's clean right okay right never had a gel stin yeah never had no standard but
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Luda St kind of like right under that you know what I'm saying like he no he did the natural Ascension that all
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rappers do he went from music to acting right that's the ceiling for for a rapper I'm I'm thinking but I guess what
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I'm what I'm thinking more along the lines is game game changing individuals
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people who who can J puff 50 Cent yeah so when I look when I think yeah j50
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hasn't went under Fire he does the most talking he's the most intag person in the culture right now no
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nobody hasn't attacked him or tried to you know I mean get his dirty hamper and find his dirty laundry so it's like I
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would say fair though there's Nuance there's Nuance you know what I'm saying I don't want to talk about the Nuance on camera because man I'm surprised that
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Prince home if if Prince Miller can come home anybody can come yeah yeah yeah you
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know what I'm saying so like I'm saying it's like if they yeah like this weird
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out here man Alo came home was pressing back in the city yeah he was supposed to
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be in a protective custody but he moved out of the W couldn't deal with it it's crazy right
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I share a story can I can I share out story please tell us your outp story so
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um living in Harlem right so um um I I park my cars on on my on on on a street
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I say I park my cars I parked my cars on on a street right so one day I'm outside washing my car right
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right and I'm washing my car and this dude walk up on me it's night time it's just me and him out there so I'm looking
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he's like yo what's up I'm like what's up he said you know who I am I'm looking I'm like nah he said I'm po it was Alo
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yeah that's crazy he's like and then he said yo um um shout out to Troy Reed too so he did the apple story on so okay um
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Troy had put me on the phone with him like maybe three months before that cuz they wanted to use my car for something
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Alo mind you I had never actually literally seen him before in my life or whatever
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so he just he knew he I guess he was watching so when I when I was watching my car he came outside he's like you're
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on PO and he's like yo you're the one with the cars right I'm like yeah he said yeah I was talking to you with Troy
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he's like yeah he said all right and he just walked away right so I'm watching the car five minutes later he came back
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he was like you got a red one too right I was like yeah he's like all right and
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walked just like I'm like yo what the that's crazy so I can see how he was creeping up like you know I mean he was
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creeping up on like like if I would have did something to him I would have been got cuz he just walked up on me like
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yeah like it was just me and him out there yo yeah crazy it was crazy so that's my that's my ALB story you know
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what I mean the thing for me is all the so-called tough that stand on business a so-call
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right we all know puffers he one of them right he a one onone he staying on
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business you know he could get physical and all that but for all the [ __ ] like yeah P pull this and pull that and pull
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that for him to be like I'm back who is
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talking you slap over here 125th slapsies what about you did y'all had
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something to say yeah he was making dudes take pictures with him that was talking trash about him like slapping
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taking a selfie right where is that's why I the streets is a myth man like
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Troy AB said man uh a lot of Street dudes talk a lot now on on YouTube on
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YouTube yeah man it's a different era theyum to what they was against so to
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speak you know mean you see a lot of dudes doing podcasts spilling beans about stuff that we should not know yeah
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that's no they tell definitely telling you know what I mean like it's crazy Kei D is probably the worst cuz he's well
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you see what that land he's trying to get out right now I don't know the specifics behind that though but I know
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a little bit about it but I don't understand how they would give him immunity because he was making a a profit off it by talking about it in
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interviews that they would rearrest him and charge him for a murder that he already you know what I mean beat I mean
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kind of like say uh uh uh admitted that he participated in or was there at the
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time of yeah I don't know how that works I don't know how that works I don't know how he signs an agreement and talk about
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it I know what happened he said part of the agreement that he couldn't talk about it right I think it's the laws of Nevada so he's a Nevada I think that
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that agreement was made in another state so really so when you I think it's from state to state the um the laws are
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different in terms of what you can talk about now what you can't so maybe if he was in Cali because if I'm not mistaken
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vad is in Cali so a lot of those interviews were based in Cali so I don't know how that works but we all know who
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killed Tupac baby Lane killed Tupac Dre was in a car and it was it was
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key D them three case closed the shooter dead like what y'all locking me up
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I knew this way back when the first two three years after his death happened exactly who who did it and what why was
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the motive and everything y'all been had this why y'all locking me up I'm an old man with cancer that's talking about it
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trying to get some money off my life that I went through cuz I I claimed puff after I met puff everything went
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downhill he destroyed my Empire let me get my last little bit of couple dollars out of the story leave me alone him put
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him in jail does nothing to the victims to the of Tupac and anybody else M
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little closure maybe what closure he's been walking around telling the same story for over 20 years yeah including a
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book including a book including the book so it's like man they let they got their picks who they want to attack and Target
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and who they don't yeah no it's a fact I think maybe that's why he got rearrested because maybe that was part of the
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agreement you can't talk about it and maybe he couldn't hold yeah I heard that somewhere that he couldn't talk about it and he chose to do so and that's what
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happened so that's his dumb ass I don't know why we would do that let me ask you something um you and Dion went at it my
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aquarium brother did y'all get to talk did we really go at it well something
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online he kind of was like yo I told you not to talk about this and there you go lying
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again know on don't act like it didn't go viral come on man I mean we just got two
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different totally um variations of the story he was told that he wasn't when it comes to the Dave Chappelle thing he was
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told that we had off and I was told that he just didn't show up so it's just my
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word against his he feels as though they told him not to show up for whatever reason maybe didn't want him to be a
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part of the filming or that was his punishment that day or whatever but the way I was referred to that he just
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didn't he wasn't coming or being incompetent and not showing up like he always did so maybe I mean but he did
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say that but I don't think he was that mad we talked since then oh okay we talked since then oh okay El it was a
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time that I was trying to put a show together and he went under one of my posters on IG was said stop promoting us
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stop promoting the band don't keep using our likeness to promote your whack ass party and I'm like bro you got my number
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why you ain't just call me why you get up under a post and say something but that's been like two three years ago everybody and the K by since my
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resurrection into the hip-hop game everybody like n just do your thing man we supporting you so yeah man Tom Hills
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all wounds and the band we left a lot of money on the table we didn't tore all the other bands T from Day 26 to uh
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Danny Kan and I just thought that you know I mean in a way I love y'all Y up
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money situations for me yeah it's not too late though it was it was you think it's too late it was it
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was we was deband it at a time where we was going into our second album which so
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there we was getting another budget we was getting another Advance like we was getting more money they was crying about
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this that PB everybody want to I didn't want to pup deal because I'm a pure writer so at that time I didn't want to get away my rights to my writing at that
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time I'm glad I didn't because I ended up being a ghost writer for puff and others so in the end I made the right
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decision but at that time they just wanted the money maybe they didn't see them going for as a career and being an
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artist and they just maybe wanted to cash out and I didn't want to do it that time and at the time we all had to sign
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a deal for the deal to go through so it was all six members so to get the pub deal we all had to sign so when I didn't
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sign they blame me oh we a't get the money but man that's a tough I love Dion
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I love Sarah I love Babs I love Chopper Fred they my brothers yeah we was
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christened through the fire of hip-hop and back when we was on TV hip-hop just
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wasn't ready to see the artist development process the Hazen was a little bit extra but it was a lot of
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things done for for general purpose for the viewers to come back every Thursday to watch the show yeah everybody holds
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their over my head to walk of a cheesecake to fight and we was put in a lot of situations where they they took our fam's phones and outside influence
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away from us and just stuck Us in the double Brownstone in in SoHo yeah
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and told us to make an album yeah and by that time reality TV had realized what
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it was yeah it was just like coming into itself yeah now all these shows they just fight and throw drinks and nobody
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wins nothing at the end of the season they just come back for for a reunion and do more fighting and throwing drinks
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least we was one of the last shows where you actually won something yeah and you know I mean I made a whole 20 cored
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whether it was bad good or indifferent people might like NES people may hate NES people love NES people may be on the
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fence about NES but that one thing turned into 20 years of me being able to provide my family and you know provide
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for myself yeah you haven't done well that's your primary source of uh income for
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sure you know I've de other things you got the cheesecake business popping we got the studio we entered to the podcast
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World got five full of podcast me and Twine nest and Twine talk shop where we
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do different variations of artists and different topics and definitely got the cheesecake pop and they they want with
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that before they want to hear my RS yeah did you bring the cheesecake I'm like hi hello what's going on so it's like you
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know I mean I just turned everything that was used against me I try to propel it for a positive thing make
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it make it you lost a fight I battle rap and I tell D all the time uh you walk with cheesecake I'm selling it now uh
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you this I'm rapping I'm rapping circles around all everybody that ever rapped it was for for years on in I was only W
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maybe two three raps per year where I write raps all the time where I can't stop rapping it's just a tormenting
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process to come up with raps and similes and different ways to say you said a
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million times is a torturous process but here I am 2025 yeah 47 years of age living off rap
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and I love it that's dope that's dope I got clap for that yeah yeah yeah we got to definitely clap for that yeah [ __ ]
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for all the naysayers that put agism and why is he still rapping cuz you know as humans we we we we we skip over the 30
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good comments and go right to that one ill comment it's just a human it's just human nature no that's a fact and no
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matter how this person could be on their page you'll still tap into that same energy
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why why can someone ask this why is hip hop the only genre music where is a age
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limit on it why ks1 said hip means young
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and that that that's true go ahead I'm let I'm elaborate a little bit on yeah and the Hop what is the
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Hop jumping you can't jump when you get old jump I forget the Hip Hop thing I
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just seen somebody online breaking that hip-hop down it was like a caller response thing it into act but boom but
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I want to say about that where was you at about that n hip means cool though if we dictate to cool we always had a lot
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of coaches has came in and and kind of benefited off our Blood Sweat and Tears it started because we was bored we
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didn't have nothing to do yeah and then that started into something and that's how smart and creative and beautiful as
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a people we are but the age limit is only in Black Culture because I would
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say and I've I've learned this in the past five years
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that I've been doing my thing again it's a young man's game and it's not because of the talent it's because the energy a
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young man has yeah that's a fact can stay up all hours of the day producing recording promoting as you get older
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metabolism slow down got to take naps got to preserve yourself a little bit more right it's a young man's game
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because of the energy a young man possesses to promote and to produce at a high level and your brain also connects
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differently creatively you know what I'm saying like your first time writing you might not get it right you going to work
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harder to perfect it there you go you know what I mean and let me add to that I think it's also we're overlooking the
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fact that everybody that's 40 plus rapping you're doing something you in Uncharted Territory so it hasn't been
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done before so people are instilling what they can't do cuz they're that age and they can't do it and you're still
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doing it so they're saying you can't you shouldn't be doing this people put their burdens on you they're doing it with LeBron right now they going how long can
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he play he's still productive he he say Bri is in still good shape in he definitely doesn't perform right he did
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as a decade ago but it's still some good still high level still some good stuff in yeah still good stuff who you going
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who if you remove BR who's going to be that Marquee that's why he's got St exactly he's the try to do what KD just
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have he doesn't have the personality doesn't have the personality but but I just want to give a shout out to like
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all the OG's and all that that did their thing last year cuz 2024 was a great
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year LL MC light Mike m to Killer Mike I never seen that one I
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busted up with Killer Mike territory me and Killer Mike had a good talk down Atlanta and Clark before Clark shut down
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one time he gave me some encouraging words some of the words that still what did he tell sit with me today just man n
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you ain't like you hot don't let nobody dictate how you how yet story ended mhm
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MH like that's beautiful don't let puff don't let this and he was telling me um and uh most de told me that too the same
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had the same talk with me he like man don't listen to them he was like you are just like how we saying about you're
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young and your hip hop yeah there's no right or wrong answer for you you just are what it is yeah yeah you're the
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energy so whatever you say Puff can't tell you was whack he can't tell you was not whack cuz he don't dictate the cool
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right you are hip-hop you're a young black male right that does music you dictate the cool yeah I I don't
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understand it either because hip-hop deals with mental not physical true Sports deals with physical so at some point you're not going to be able to
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play after 60 70 let's say 70 LeBron probably won't be dunking a basketball at 70 80 years old but the older you get
34:46
the wiser you go the wiser you are the more knowledge you have the more you can offer somebody musically storytelling wise or whatever so to me the older you
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get the more knowledge and more material you can possess that's what I said musically so I don't understand his
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agism on music three stack say he don't have nothing left to talk about that's because he feels people don't want to
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hear grownup [ __ ] that is a proven and he said exactly what people want to hear
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he like well I'm going talk about prostate and and and and this type yes
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exactly to hear that typ and the crazy thing is he he would make it cool he would make it
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cool talk about real life [ __ ] that people are dealing with definitely abely in your age and by the way he was way of
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his time talking about grown man stuff in the 9s Sorry Miss Jackson like what do yall
35:35
what what are we talking about all right do you believe in the term immature veterans meaning you have people 40 plus
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trying to make music for 19 year olds now that is a crazy thing we and this literally goes on but
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this is our job as being writers and performers to
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tap into all genres but when you get a certain age your content becomes removed
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from a certain demographic so um like I said it's just the biggest challenge is trying to you I
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mean because the money lies in the the younger fans they grow with you so they spend money with you for a longer period
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of time than somebody that your age you know what I'm saying yeah your age got
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the money to go to the events and support you but somehow it doesn't
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compare to the young energy when that that energy is around your name when all the young people are
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especially on social media you know and and online you know what I mean cuz look at it young none of the young guys
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people have money to go to got to ask somebody or ask the parents or ask somebody it's only the people that's in
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our age group the people that live life took some losses got it together figured it out got some stability oh I want to
36:48
go to the wuang John I want to go to the example I want to go to the NWA reun I
36:53
want to go to the Hot Boys reunion we got the money we got the time let's go to Essence fast let's go the
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young kids just want to jump around and be disruptive but they don't have the finances yeah so it's a it's like a give
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and take the our age group got the money to participate and Keep Us Alive the young
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gonna keep you alive through the name and through the spirit through the energy right yeah um did you everyone saw the clip I'm sure where Eric Sherman
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was breaking that down with how artist for sure that that are young now they're not making any music that's going to
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transcend them to be able to do shows when they're 30 40 because nobody's going to want to hear that me nobody's
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going to have nobody's going to be 40 years old with with the mentality we had the last little bit of that glimpse of that was the early 2000s music right
37:38
yeah and with the and with the Ascension of Drake maybe that was like kind of like the last bit era of music that are
37:45
Trent over time over time right everything else is just fast food everything else is just Moment music it was for that moment and even Drake's new
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music feels more and more like that fast food music right uh again disrespect I'm
37:58
not shading him at all no for sure what y'all feel about that though the energy around that right now the whole Sue and
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umg thing I think it's whack was UN hiop right I think it's corny I think you
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should take your losses like a man and keep it moving nobody shoes in battles you ever shoot somebody because you lost the battle I just think people when you
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get to a certain level of success everybody around you will scared you to I like that Dame Dash stays well
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grounded with the the OG from the hood No Matter What level of success
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he always Taps into that advice whether he use it or doesn't I think people like
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puff and Drake they don't have people at that level success it's going so good that nobody wants to be disruptive right
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it's nobody I don't about none of that money none of them none of that you on
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some nut right now yeah right basically they don't have them they don't have they don't have them people and that's
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the problem this is why where they are right now currently I'll say that they don't have nobody that respect that
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doesn't have bless the fact that that that lawsuit went through like how many people had to go yeah like yo bro get
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the out here with you lost my that's it yeah but like that's what I'm saying let's move on and you know for a fact
39:10
the same play that they ran on you is the same play they help run on you help run on people right right did he did he
39:16
did did me Pro right and I brought up this point right here when Meek took the L he was loving that right was loving it
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loving it me took a hell of a l loving it with back to back it's your time it's your time he wasn't complaining and by
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the way there's nothing wrong with taking a l taking L it's okay Jay is
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proof of that and me I'm the biggest denier of Jay's L there may be he took L
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but but taking a l is not wrong they shun Way Wayne they shun Wayne what do you
39:46
mean what do you mean I mean it's just like man what do you mean about the Super Bowl that CL and that just how
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they just got like they don't celebrate him as much as I think they should no I just don't think he should have
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uh he's entitled to perform at the Super Bowl just because he's from New Orleans no I don't think that I don't think that but I think they should have I think as
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a courtesy they should have let as a courtesy I think we pass courtesy man
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that's the case Masterpiece should perform then it should be a medley then dang you know what I'm saying got point
40:16
there it should definitely be a medley if anything yeah it should be a medle I but I don't think it's a gimme not not
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when having a ban and not like us it just and and is it reunites it reignites
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the whole the whole culture got reignited yo that's thinkal Anthem now
40:35
it just reignites it and I think what they trying to do is just prevent him from doing it because it's just like it's a downtime for them right now and I
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don't think five years from ago Dr W be seeing himself in this light of anything but I said that on another platform that
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it had to be some type of deal worked out for for that song to be that celebrated with all those accusations on
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it without no real a lot of accusations on that but I really thought that they had
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ran a play that everybody was taking well well compensated for this so I'm thinking that all right Drake we we
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gonna do it like this we gonna play with it you gonna drop your records and then kri is gonna go disappear then he gonna
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bust out with this and then he gonna come out with not like us it's goingon to reunite the West Coast here's the
41:19
money for that because this you about to sit down for a little while oh yeah listen you're going to be unpop unpop
41:25
for a little while to start money Super Bowl's doing going to reite it it's
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about to do it again he going have little kids actually when he sued when he put the lawsuit it it spiked the
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plays the song and Drake by the way is the still the number one most streamed
41:42
rapper in 2024 like he oxymoron it's like what comes first the egg or that
41:49
it's like without wouldn't it be a big that record if it wasn't aimed targeted at Drake you gotta think about let's
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take Drake out of the record would it be a Co is it all fits together cuz it all
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came together it work in a way Drake is kind of right I'm the reason you got your your first number one for real for
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real first number one that's not his first number one yes it is it we G have to look that up
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production look that up please is that didn't Dam what was it um um what's the
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[ __ ] um I don't know be humble be humble I number one I never heard that we going
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to be all right none of we going to be all right number one to me number one to me is number one
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everywhere not just in certain markets number one is I've never heard a Kendrick song number one in Philly radio
42:38
ever wonder in my life was I've never heard a Kendrick Lamar record what you heard one in my
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life hey man I never heard a drake record in my you know what I mean orbit
42:52
like that you tripping not never obviously but I'm saying my point is is in this day and age what you trying to
42:58
say you don't get car trying hear from production hold on production they not they not pumping Drake I get what you
43:04
saying they not pumping Drake you get in everybody car when 50 Cent came in 2003 pause you can fill it every car was
43:10
pumping it every it was everywhere this when I went to the when I went to the damn I'm good be humble boom was it
43:17
number one number one I'm good but here's the thing here's the thing here's the thing be humble here's the thing
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though hip hop is based around Drake has 78 no Drake is the man they both the man
43:27
it's emotions though it's emotions though it's a call not like us was a call to action it was a movement it
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wasn't just a song you know what I'm saying so let's keep it real it was a song that everybody could criw walk to
43:39
again it's cultur it was a cultur song that Dr can't do and and and a bars was menacing and it just all it just was a
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perfect yeah but but it it was it was an Anthem and it if you take if you take
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the lyrics out of it it felt like you could you know you got white people
43:58
cultural that's not that's not taking anything away from the record but
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without the beef stirring it up yeah I don't think Kendrick drops that record
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just in the middle of nothing and it does what it does that was dope but that was the the that was the the the the the
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broadsword chopping the head off cuz remember not like us does not like us it
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become a cultural Anthem Coastal anthem
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before first person shooter but listen the reason why that record is so big is because it it brings to attention that
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Drake has no culture he can't do a song like what's a Canada car he's Canadian
44:41
exactly he has a culture no he no musically hip-hop Canada has no I'm not saying against enough Canadians they
44:47
don't have that they don't have a culture American right there there's no culture so that record Canadian culture
44:53
that record brought to the attention that that's what not like us the definition are not like us means we have a culture here we [ __ ] Walk we got low
45:00
riders we got Mexicans we got this we that they saw the video that showed everything Dr can't do a video like that
45:07
he can't he can't show that because there's no culture there he has no identity I I rebuke you saying that Canada has no culture though they they
45:14
have culture what's the Canada car what's the Canada car what's the classic Canada car oh car I I couldn't tell you
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I can tell you this I can tell you this they go you know what I mean you yeah act
45:27
like you ain't heard that bu is Canadian he's from South Africa stop it yo cut it
45:32
out what what what what sneakers what's what's his West Coast sneaker I'mma tell I have no answer that you know the an
45:37
Chuck Taylor Chuck Chuck Taylor oh Chuck Taylor Chuck Taylor what's what's a what's a Canada sneaker they wear we
45:44
don't stud there no cult you that's not so that yo bro it could be it could be
45:50
dark sides we don't know what it is cuz Black America is the most studied
45:55
culture you're not like us you're not like us that's that's fair and right that is
46:03
fair and correct not like us that's exactly correct not like us but they could do not like us and they could have
46:09
do sides on or they could have an ass cot in I mean we just don't know what it is can't do it shout out to cardal
46:16
ficial shout out to all the different take the Drake versus out
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of it but you have you have to have Anthem
46:26
without the Drake infused lyrics no no no no you're right you're you're correct
46:32
because you know so you need an OP you need an enemy you need a a a thing you
46:38
know what I'm saying it can't be it can't be Nike or it can't be you know what I'm saying it has to be Drake as a
46:46
representation of appropriation know I mean like it just say in the middle of nowhere that mustard and Kendrick did a
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yeah is a masterpiece without without without the ant fueling and he just drops his record
46:59
like he dropped his past records let me add the energy it wouldn't be the same
47:04
energy yo but shouldn't shouldn't Drake had just ignored it like when he said mother The Big Three is just big me
47:11
shouldn't he he's a competitor he shouldn't have ignored that he's feel competive all a play from you don't ignore that you go you get to it okay
47:18
let's talk about that induct to induct or introduce Kendrick's
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Reign I think Drake had the longest in history raining hip hop I'm glad you brought
47:29
that up I think that his time is done thank you see see the young kids still
47:34
love Drake but it's kind of being cringed right this he's detached from a demographic right I agree with that his
47:42
time people people fail to realize as an artist R you're not going to stay on top forever you can substain but you're not
47:49
going to be no one in the history of any sport any activity you're not going to
47:55
remain number one for corny bro you won too much come on just it becomes a thing like bro when you go
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on did what Wayne did and Wayne did it at a point where his was shaky but he
48:06
knew what to do right he knew when to step down just let Drake and Nikki take the Reigns yeah Drake hasn't entered in
48:13
his his Drake or Nicki for this new era that's a fact yo bro that's the
48:21
problem with hip-hop too by he stayed at the top for too long and didn't didn't bring bring no more
48:27
like how did with Rockefeller and dips and he he didn't
48:33
build that's why say you're not like us I want to switch the combo slightly okay is this the problem with hip-hop we
48:39
don't bring in enough artists we don't gift the culture a new version of them
48:45
or a better version of them give you a perfect example Kendrick Lamar I'm not
48:50
going to say he was gifted by Dr Dre but top and and all the TDE cats they were
48:56
doing their thing before Dre you know what I'm saying they were moving with force and then Dre came in and signed
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them right and then even beyond that you know they had that little moment on
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stage where corrupt the game um I know uh who else was on the stage what um the
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concert yeah the concert who else was on Paro the new people he put He had
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everybody up there I'm talking no no I'm talking about when Kendrick was anointed
49:28
on stage remember that yeah I remember that okay I thought and he was crying on stage and they passed him the torch
49:33
basically and they gave him the torch right and then like us that's the whole boy he's that's the but but but the
49:39
thing I'm trying to say is hip hop does not do that enough New York will never do that you'll never get a five 10
49:47
rappers getting around one person and saying yo you next the guy you're the guy and that brought the whole the whole
49:55
Coast up the whole Co who's the last person to do that to do that Jay did it obviously Jay did it
50:02
Jay's done it J Co he gave us jcole and others obviously you know all the other cats from back in the day so who right
50:08
now that's on top if you will that's introducing I feel like Drake should be the one doing that but he's not he's not
50:15
there's only a few Kings or Queens in that regard Nikki hasn't really done that Nikki hasn't see I never thought
50:21
about that Drake hasn't really brought anybody is a Nikki hasn't done it only person that did it
50:28
French who French who French oh um um God bless dead um she CHS CHS CHS and he
50:36
was he was influential he was and Dirk and Dirk and Dirk he was very influential in Dirk yeah and right yeah
50:43
I didn't know that Ross did it that's why Rick Ros is still be able to thing right that's a fact
50:50
right being on top becomes an addiction it becomes a drug boom becomes a drug
50:56
comes a drug with like I don't want to share a spotlight with an underling S I can just right dominate it's like sh
51:03
going to go get Dwight Howard like let me teach you how to be dominant no not I'm just going to be dominant until just
51:08
burn out and that's why it ends when you you and that's why when you end it ends right you know what I mean exactly
51:15
that's why it ends when you end it's over now there's nobody carry the torch for Drake right now kid but like kids
51:20
you need somebody to carry your legacy you know what I'm saying I mean Dr Dre will never he'll like his family got him
51:27
he he just not activating him who he got party he got he got some got got him he
51:34
do got him yeah that's facts n Nicki could go out and start a label and be
51:39
yeah see to to me Nikki to me and this is my honest assessment of it Nikki could really the same way Babs runs the
51:47
the female Premier League for battle rappers Nikki could have owned all them girls man they could have been under her
51:54
and she could have been like I am totally the god when it comes to female
51:59
artists I have the label where all female artists come to and go through the moon but it doesn't happen it
52:06
doesn't happen like that man she could have dominated bro she could have everybody looked up to her yeah so where
52:13
now is so much influx of female artists you got something imposing yeah her
52:19
position yeah like lot and this one and that one when they could all fill up under her everybody's for self like you
52:25
said it easy work too easy yeah anyway it's still time though still time see
52:31
and this is why I respect Kendrick because this new album is full of nothing but up and cominging La dudes
52:36
and the pop out nothing but yeah he you see what I'm saying look where he's at
52:42
who's like look he look where he's at and he's bringing up je parico and all these people East Coast for nobody's
52:48
doing on that level so we like all packed in together as far as the Eastern seab board and California to be one big
52:55
ass yeah and you go there you liable to get killed the first day you go there and
53:02
then all the underground artists rally behind each other I just left there bro that's all I heard it felt it felt like
53:08
when I was coming up as we kill each other but if we would say three [ __ ] and get together and say one [ __ ] is the next [ __ ] right that's a fact I'm
53:16
say fact Hometown hero out there man imagine imagine this if Diddy Jay and
53:22
and and 50 and Nas I think 50 together
53:28
he should do a Making the Band where he go find the next Talent try to put a group together or something I think that would that would that would do him
53:34
because he's trying to see do something he's trying to get back in the game he said I seen him on uh the um cam Jo and
53:43
they ask him what about the gunit what is that now and he's like I'm trying to redirect it and you know I mean put some
53:49
life back into it so I think that you know he never missed a step he still got it yeah he's definitely he's I call him
53:56
the king of uh hooks like he he's the king of hooks man he's dope with them
54:01
hooks like the the yeah game is crazy got to get 50 in so let's talk about
54:08
your new music man you got some new music coming out uh you got some Heavy Hitters on there too heavy hits now now
54:14
before before you tell us about it m you last told us you were a a content
54:20
creator that raps something like that yeah I just put it in like a nice little
54:26
slick way to say it basically rappers are content creators that where we are now like even though it's a freestyle or
54:34
being us go meet another artist being in the studio with artist every little piece of your day is content yeah right
54:39
so even though I rap I'm a Content yeah my that's exhausting cuz I I looked at
54:47
your post today I was like yo five minutes ago an hour ago I was like y I can't cuz
54:54
we in a we is get a lot of things don't have shelf life like like back when we was coming
55:00
up thr Chuck n album used to last for six months yeah longer than that maybe a
55:06
year maybe a whole year right put year you lucky if you get six weeks right you
55:11
lucky the way comes out the way it's consumed now it was tangible too actually had it was tangible I could
55:17
touch Nas album I could look at the artwork I could read the credits now everything is online 2003 it was like
55:23
that too when came out with Rich D triy it's not tangible kind still like that that that the end of that era almost
55:29
yeah you can't touch it no more it's like it's [ __ ] up the game cuz people can manipulate everything so everything
55:35
can look like you doing well but you know what I mean yeah so your new project tell us about it and who's on it
55:41
eness and friends part two I didn't drop a project all year last year just going
55:47
through some health issues and family issues you good now right I'm great good
55:52
my son end up graduating congrats oh congrats see we let's celebrate first year in
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college come on let's celebrate celebrate that mean he start gradua
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black fathers graduate he's the first of my media family to go into a Higher Learning institution where gradate full
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scholarship got graduated from West kathle which is a private school and where's he going to school going to wner
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University in Chester PA oh that's where I met Obama yeah for sure he wants he
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wants to um major in business law he wants to be a lawyer okay sh what his
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dad do no you need lawyers like Michael in the first movie we need that I don't
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want to nothing the part of the family business is cool we need that no no he can help you more as a law that's what I
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told him that's what I told him black lawyers black doctors black Engineers black scientists we need it all straight
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up so I I applaud you on that I like to harp on that type of Stu man I do it all day I tell you we don't need no more
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rappers it's crazy that you can't really pop it like that you know I mean it's like yo my son is like no we making it
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cool this [ __ ] is cool [ __ ] that no but if I told him my son caught a drill and
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see he caught a body and we beat it [ __ ] be like I get it man more more more parties happen after somebody come
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home then after you graduate Nar we got change the narrative got change the narrative we celebrating this we going
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to harop on this that's a fact I'm I'm we change the narrative listen shout out to kashid man Sal young yes absolutely
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so yeah eness and friends too man the least singles uh featuring black Thor produced by black key called black home
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it's a dope record you're about to see a lot lot of that about to shoot the visual for it in the upcoming weeks uh
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stay produced by black do black key okay I'm like okay featuring black thought oh featuring Black Thought featuring black
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good enough was a dope record man I can't wait till y'all hear it um got Dave Dave East on it shout out to Harlem
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USA got kid kid shout out to gunit um um good to hear kid kid still out there
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moving I got bab's bunny shout out to Bab bunny first lady representing the band got some upcoming artist Bumblebee
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from the city Tinker Bella that's on bades right now practic somebody he's preaching I got a song right before she
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got on the show uh D Jones signed to so RP's uh imprint which is J kiss's label
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okay him and MSY um who else else we got on there Twan Twan spedo for major figures
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which is upcoming rapper making major waves in the city right now Diamond Street King which is s to Dream Chasers
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so we got a lot of people young that's why I try to give the young my era and
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right and friends part two y what's shout to State prop Chain Gang
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family and all that see you know I pay homage to the old the graduating class 0304
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get a young young and some motion on my let them know I'm not just a bitter veteran artist that hates on the younger
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MC's because as you gets older they're like oh you know a lot of MC oh that mumble
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jumble not all of it is good but some of it is good yeah and some of it good is
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celebrate the parts I don't like I don't right my thing is a lot of people get on the gram and write paragraphs about how
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how they dislike something but as a grown man and if you really like that you really out in the streets you're not
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wasting your time comment on something you don't like you just keep it moving
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yes but that's not how the internet works that's not how engagement works that's crazy I look I look I look at
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people like us on internet and all they do is complain all they do is yell at
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other people they but you never ever ever see them yo this rapper here though
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you got to hear this one yeah wish should comparison right if I'm trash and I'm I'm past the age that I still should
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be rapping what's your who's your avatar for for what I should what should be
1:00:04
right what it should look like right and they don't have uh n you s the same with every beak so does Jus so does Benny so
1:00:11
does Snoop Dogg so this Fat Joe so this Lil Wayne yeah that's you sound the same
1:00:17
everybody sound it's called the style right I was thinking about nipy hustle in that same regard love love love love
1:00:23
nipy Hustle but his style is his style style yeah I rather you tap right into
1:00:30
who it is on the record like who's this Snoop who that yeah you know soon as you hear your identity yeah it's your
1:00:35
identity in the story so basically what I'm saying the same thing they love for the same thing they hate you for let me
1:00:41
ask you about Philly a little bit man back in the day day Philly was you know
1:00:47
numbered to New York on the East Coast at least sure New York was always you know was number one relatively speaking
1:00:53
but at that time it was a fierce competition um you know far as that
1:00:59
Crown true I mean and that's for people that know hip-hop not for for the average everyday person
1:01:07
um and then it just seemed like you know then Jay has state property and so on
1:01:12
and so forth for sure but after that we had Meek but we we I want to I want to
1:01:19
know from your perspective I think Jay shunned a lot of light on Philly as far what it could be it just didn't have
1:01:26
that story book ending yeah and I I respect J for a lot because Philly is
1:01:31
like I said is a hard town we boo Santa Claus and do a lot of crazy but like I
1:01:36
said on another platform Philly has always been hindered by New York politics yeah Philly had never had no
1:01:42
real strong labels there yeah so all Philly artists really had to make that that trip to Mecca New York to try to
1:01:49
get a situation yeah yeah and um over the years we just never stepped up to the executive position we never really
1:01:56
steep into that light of a Rick Ross or a respected executive yeah we've kind of did what Drake just did for the last 15
1:02:01
years ride the Artistry wave out and never really appoint nobody or really steep in stepp in those shoes in a
1:02:07
zigzac yeah and that's has hindered us but it's always been a rivalry against these main cities right New York Detroit
1:02:15
Chicago Philly Jersey yeah yeah there always been a Ral and everything and
1:02:20
it's not a bad rivalry it's friendly competition but being that New York
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always hold all the cards they don't now but they still hold a lot of them but
1:02:31
you said it right they don't now not the same way not the same way for what I'm saying is they don't dictate the music
1:02:38
it was a time where all hip-hop was New York hip-hop on every station it was New York hip-hop it wasn't no damn South hip
1:02:44
hop wasn't no West Coast hip hop everywhere you went you heard Buckshot shorty the fla flyless flow Sky you
1:02:50
heard New York hip hop yeah then other regions start you know having their
1:02:56
impact but New York has always held the cards yeah yeah yeah to get on to be
1:03:02
exposure everything the crazy thing one I mean um thorough is that back in the day a lot of New York artists would go
1:03:08
to Philly to get get put on like pop remember pop art records law on there Lawrence Goodman
1:03:15
Steady B the youngsters Lawrence Goodman pop so they did have some exacts early
1:03:21
on right but Philly used should get a lot of play in New York too like EST times dope York has made play New York
1:03:30
Aura you don't make it here right make it anywhere yeah no that's a fact so
1:03:36
it's like we always lived in that shadow yeah Philly is a dope town and we prod some good artists but we never got a
1:03:43
chance to take the Rings for whatever reason yeah yeah whether it be being getting in legal trouble whether it be
1:03:50
meek just not doing business with the with the people that he was been doing business with in the past yeah whether
1:03:56
Uzi with the whatever they try to pass on him and his name and whatever he doing whatever people he's catering to
1:04:04
just never been a we never had a alpha male step up right to that position
1:04:09
would you say Will Smith is the biggest team that came out of hip hop in Philly for sure yeah because of his
1:04:15
transcension in the movies and film it's just oh by the way he's still rapping he's spitting right now he came out with
1:04:21
a drill joint of like he that come drill will son kind had a drill fi spitting
1:04:29
but I can say shout out to DJ Jazz Jeff and Will Smith they are the Pioneers they the first Grammy nominated if not
1:04:35
Grammy Award winners for Urban Music and then and boycotted that year and boycotted that year shout out to them
1:04:40
we're in the Philly jerseys and all that so they Philly down home and their
1:04:45
hip-hop I can't say Will Smith DJ JZ Jeff or Roots those are two people that
1:04:52
is like in in this type of C that can't be touched your mother's china cabinet you
1:05:00
can't you can't go in there that's the plastic on the seats right can't go with
1:05:05
TQ blacks and Quest love just unhip hop it's unethical to say anything right you
1:05:11
know what I'm say shout out to them ll's up there too I would put ll in there too yeah yeah for sure for
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sure so let's go back to the to the to the break dancing what was your
1:05:22
signature break dance movie no hold on before we do that what was your name what was I didn't have no name I just was a young kid that was like um like
1:05:30
kind of you know just took and box through about the hipop culture and you know being energetic and being from nner
1:05:37
City that's what we did Dancing was a big culture even before break dancing came and really took the mold we just
1:05:44
had a dance culture in Philly we go back with House Parties the house music Baltimore has that sign kind of a fill
1:05:51
DC with the go go we always had that house party Dan culture in
1:05:57
Philly and then of time ganger rat was ushered in and then remember it was a whole exan wave when people wearing
1:06:03
entric MCD I live all those things teachers Philly went through all these phases too
1:06:10
the wuang where everybody was dirty and had the remember yeah it was the era
1:06:16
everybody to up Tims that was was dirty that's a fact word here pled half was platted
1:06:24
then the half was out right remember Philly Philly Philly endur the net too man that's Philly endur theet too I
1:06:31
remember this SC T era the Army everybody was trying to get the the the uh the real army real remember they was
1:06:39
going to the Army and they we went to the surus the real army surplus like oh
1:06:44
you don't got the real certified Army John you like bro it's camouflag right
1:06:49
no but I got the Jo from the actual military n di to World War II this is World War II
1:06:57
see the bullet hole right carart has came back made a 360 man I just seen a
1:07:03
hood Olympics with Albi J kiss nothing but carart that's dope do so it's like
1:07:09
everything repeats US History repeats us so man at a minute you couldn't wear v- shirts now everybody wearing crew neck
1:07:15
then you couldn't wear crew neck now you can wear v-neck skinny jeans was in now everybody is the baggy culture the
1:07:21
Balenciaga shirts is this big now it's like if F hat we could wear f oh you got the big fitted hat that was
1:07:28
synonymous with New York and Philly the big fitted hats to fit over your ears and all that now it's back in right
1:07:34
sometime before you couldn't wear dad hats now dad hats is revered a lot of
1:07:39
man just come back around bro Pumas spot builts right ponies yeah look at all
1:07:46
leoser te they all coming back coming back all this [ __ ] coming back Hans
1:07:52
British Knights yeah all that I just bought a just bought love H
1:07:59
yo Mecca man talking all that [ __ ] now Carl
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can yeah cross color I seen people rocking cross CR col again I seen somebody Rock heard those brands are
1:08:11
Champion y Champion they made it come back like a man discus remember discus
1:08:17
discus y one thing I can't get into is that Under Armor other armor people love that's too new for me that don't work
1:08:23
out that love work out here exactly Under Armour I don't really love
1:08:28
the logo respectfully you know I mean Curry got something invested it's okay
1:08:33
for the shirts but the sne when they went once they went to the sneakers they look like Orthopedic shoo right I was
1:08:40
like yeah God Bless but I can't rock eness and Friends Volume 2 man dropping
1:08:45
bro that hot we got the two singles warming up the Dave East record Fallen Sur already um garnered like 3 million
1:08:51
views on World Star any videos out videos up the Dave e it's on war right now okay Dave East
1:08:58
that's featuring Dave East Fallen solders how did you link up with Dave East him from Harlem you from Philly how did that happen D Jones D Jones D Jones
1:09:05
and Dave East got a good relationship they came up in kind of like Philly
1:09:12
together when before I guess Dave migrated to Harlem you know he would
1:09:18
spent a lot of time in Philly and then D Jones D Jones was from that head shot
1:09:23
versus Top Class air okay and that's the kennel that you that brought Meek Joey
1:09:29
Jad Reed Dallas raw vodka so that was like the DVD era right so Meek and Joey
1:09:37
Jad and all them is from that era D Jones is from that era also got you wow
1:09:42
and D Jones and Dave East is real cool so that was a natural Ascension for me okay kid kid he's another guy always
1:09:50
admired from afar by the way of Instagram we Linked UP gave me a record
1:09:55
shot it back right I had Benny on my first drawn trying to get some [ __ ] from spe G spe is heavy heavy out here I met
1:10:05
Conway before he got shot in his face so all those guys I was already locked in with those guys Benny gave me a record on my first album so it's just like a
1:10:12
lot of these moves I've been making just been veteran love people showing me veteran love they respect the Ping game
1:10:17
they respect I'm back outside moving around I got some motion freestyles been going viral and we got 1.7 million views
1:10:24
I'm out here selling cheese kicking I'm just selling personality man this podcast man trying to get it popping give somebody five tips on how
1:10:31
to sustain a a career in hip-hop um one is you gonna be a
1:10:37
writer be the type of writer that hasn't been forced to write if if if if I'm
1:10:43
helping you develop your Artistry or your ping game I shouldn't have to force you to write you should write every day
1:10:49
that's one okay two is you got to be see you got to wear all hack
1:10:56
until you can get the people that can wear some of the hats to help you share some of the load of the work meaning you
1:11:03
got to be the producer The Stylist the security guard the protection the stage crew got you got to
1:11:10
be everything because if don't nobody see your vision who's going to support that and and and come on and help
1:11:17
you three you got to look like something man you can't even if you not physically
1:11:22
have the attributes the traditional look that hip hop is looking for you still
1:11:27
can't come in with a stain on your T-shirt like you just woke up you are your biggest commodity so when people
1:11:33
see you they have to see something yeah they're like wow it's not where it could be but it's not all also like where it
1:11:41
shouldn't be you have to look like something yeah your body should be your temple your parents should be your temple four don't be scared to invest
1:11:48
your own money spend little 20 $30 on these ads and this little out here man
1:11:55
advertise yeah got pay for these little advertisers it be like a me my manager T
1:12:01
argue all the time I'll be wanting to get that little 30 but when I see the the comeback from it it encourages me to
1:12:06
do more okay us as black people we don't like spending unnecessary money yeah but unless we chose to we'll SP unnecessary
1:12:13
money on this but not necessary money on this Gucci store right we'll buy we'll buy 50k in Gucci guci but not $300 in
1:12:22
promo ad right that's crazy yo that's the crazy mentality facts and five is just man you can't be deterred by anyone
1:12:28
friends family enemies Ops you got to keep going the minute you stop you
1:12:35
lost eness I got one more question okay all right is Philly going to the Super Bowl but the Eagles going to go it's
1:12:42
looking good it's looking good I want to jinx it because we've we've won a championship in the last decade 2016
1:12:49
shout to the you know the Foley guy and you know M we need one with hurts though
1:12:56
J with jayen right definitely need one with Jay had a Frankenstein of a team back when we wenton a bowl back in 2016
1:13:02
and I think that mirors this season with the exception of Herz and saquan we got
1:13:07
some really good pieces and it's looking good but I don't want to jinx it I be looking back because I'm a Gambling Man
1:13:12
and since I've been back being active again I haven't stepped one foot in the casinos or the the sports betting places
1:13:21
but every time the Philip W team has a good season I don't bet even compared to
1:13:26
our record WE 12 and three or I I would have won 12 times if I bet $1,000 right
1:13:33
but I don't look at it like that I just and when I bet we lose terribly when I just let them fly and let it let it
1:13:39
float the season float we do good yeah so I just don't even indulge in it no more but I think we definitely have a
1:13:46
good solid chance for Super Bowl parents this year okay see I agree I agree hey I
1:13:52
can't talk my team sucks V SE is the worst bus in NBA
1:13:58
history but we still got MB yeah which was the MVP last year yeah so we still
1:14:04
got some good guys yeah shout out to Philly doing it yes sir any any tours coming up any shows how can people catch
1:14:09
you on the road you got anything coming up yeah we doing some shows got some some some battles coming up uh a lot of
1:14:16
people uh view my old solo battle actually having a rematch February 28th okay on on my man Pat from RMR uh battle
1:14:24
League okay um and then got some talks with uh me battling Tay Roc which is one
1:14:31
of Battle Raps rever high profile artist and uh the a
1:14:37
battle which I've been chasing for years now finally got it so I was supposed be battling him somewhere this year in
1:14:43
March in Harrisburg on top of the music putting out another mixtape with DJ Alamo uh my mixtape series let me bro
1:14:51
his beat which is a direct reflection of the freestyles that I dro on Instagram over other people's Shacks me and DJ
1:14:58
Alam about to drop that and you know just gonna be a good year for eness and friends and that's friends that's what's
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up yes shouts out to Twin shouts out to Chuck shouts out to uh Philly Frieza a
1:15:10
big supporters and part of the team Hennessy Kev as well as beanie seagull
1:15:15
and whole state property family shout out oino shouts out to um everybody
1:15:20
that's just been tapping in shouts out to Cosmic Kev and DJ Big Love big Support over this
1:15:28
last spawn of five years yeah yeah man free also shout out to allhiphop.com was
1:15:35
one of the first spots I hit to show nothing but love shout out to shout out to for coming through man shout out to your son again
1:15:42
man shout out to kashid man first year in college got a full scholarship I'm proud of you man keep going man yeah all
1:15:49
right you did your job you did your job congrats you did your job man sometimes I think I could have did more but you
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know God got where he want us to right right where he did his job CU we all know that could have went and my
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daughter is 21 and she's Muslim she took us Sheed no kids graduated no babies come on you did your job brother you
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know I mean so all I got this one last 12 year old but she's she goes to good schools
1:16:14
she talks proper so we look at as whitewash no I want my baby to be as
1:16:20
white as she possibly get to remove herself from the urban pitfalls that I had to go through feel talk White live
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white credit White live white cuz she talks proper because she
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goes to school live White live white I don't want to live black what's living white white is auto pay bills on auto
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pay that's living white do you agree I live white I live white like a like rice
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auto pay that's living wow Auto
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woo yo Auto all right Auto happy New Year happy New Year man oh man all hip
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hop some friends make sure y'all go get that download that let me BR this beat
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