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Mar 18, 2025
Dive into the world of Hip-Hop evolution with Gorilla Nems as he breaks down his latest album, "America's Sweetheart," and shares his journey through the culture! 🎤🔥 In this exclusive AllHipHop interview with Chuck "Jigsaw" Creekmur @ChuckCreekmur and DJ Thoro, Nems talks about his creative process, the meaning behind the album title, and how he's redefining his lane in Hip-Hop.
🔑 Highlights include:
- The rise of Gorilla Nems and the story behind "America's Sweetheart" 🦍❤️
- How his unique demographic spans all ages and backgrounds 🚀
- Insights into his creative growth and the shift from hardcore tracks to broader appeal 🎵
- His take on Hip-Hop's evolution, staying true to New York roots, and representing the culture 🌆
- Exclusive stories about his viral content, past tours, and connections with legends like Shaq and Jadakiss 🏆
- The importance of staying authentic in an ever-changing industry 🌟
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Executive Producers: “Grouchy” Greg Watkins and Chuck “Jigsaw” Creekmur
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[Music] what's going on world it's your man Chuck Creek AKA jigsaw here with my man DJ thorough AKA thorough Z Brit to the
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streets let's go we back once again with my man nsing New
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York get life man yeah how you well first wait no let's get into it your
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album America America sweetheart America sweetheart what a title yeah what a title gotta ask what does
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the title mean um I you know I switched it around so for the majority of my career probably
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from like 2015 2014 all my all once I decided I was gorilla nms all my was
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gorilla them so we got Congo Planet the Apes Gorilla Monsoon Riser the
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Silverback with this album um I felt like I was just in a new plateau and I
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love kind of you know we did all we could with the gorilla names and I was just you know one day I was posted
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something on the gram and some one of somebody commented and was like yo it's crazy how the F your life guy is
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American sweetheart oh and I was like that's a great title cuz look last year we went on tour the disrespect tour we
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did like 40 cities in like 50 days and I realized that my demographic is like
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unlike any other rapper like I got my demographic NAS from like 4 years old to
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like 90 all Races yeah it's crazy I had a little girl and Idaho Falls we had a
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little like eight-year-old girl at my show they I don't know how they let her in the club yeah she knew all my lyrics
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then you got older people then you got younger people I'm like yo this demographic is crazy like it's really
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your life really became like America sweetheart man and it just you know it just took off like that that's crazy now
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is that I guess everybody comes for different reasons right some some might be from social media some might be from
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music and so on at the end of the day I'm a rapper that's that's first and foremost that's what I came into the
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game doing um it's just I chose a different avenue yeah to get the buzz up
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right you know what I'm saying I tried with the fight club all the opportunities that that presented I up
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through drug usage or going into jail I ran that course um and then you know we
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took on the whole during the pandemic we just went crazy with the content and that took it off to the next level and
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it's like no matter how you got here you here now and this is what I do you know what I'm saying it's funny you bring
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that up because we just uh interview exhibit and he says he's kind of suffering not suffering but going through the same thing where people
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don't know he rap because they know him from Pimp My yeah yeah do you get that like I didn't know you rap 100% how
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youal Okay because um it kind of like gives me a new passion a new fire it's
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like makes me become a new artist in a sense um you know we got the core fans that
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know me that got my face tattooed on them and and crazy but then it's a whole new demographic of people that when they
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see my and be like oh he actually can rap it's not like just somebody trying
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to like blow up and trying to you know create a lane nah this is what I've been doing and then they might talk to
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somebody that knows of me from previous before the bing bong and um he like oh
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no he really does this you know what I'm saying so it's like it's cool I like when people just find like I said
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however you got here welcome now we here though you know what I'm saying talk about the album a little bit
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and the music the way you're presenting it sounds like it's showing growth and
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some different styles a little bit AB departure from the past absolutely so so
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I knew that Rise of the Silver back with scram Jones my last album shout out to
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scram my guy he was just in New Orleans um was like punch you in your face
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you know the rap that I love but it's not for everybody it's yeah exactly it's
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for us it's for guys like us but I I like to have females at my show you know
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what I'm saying that type of music not going to have females at my show so um
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with this album so really what happened is we had Rise of the Silver back we did that through the whole pandemic and
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scram was cool with Rosenberg Paul Rosenberg so he said yo let's play the album for Paul we sat with him played
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them the album he's like yo what do you guys want out of it we told him what we want he was like give me like 6 months
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so at this time the album we already was sitting on it for like a good two years
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we were adding stuff but we was the the the main meat and potatoes of it was like we were sitting on it I was like
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man I you know I I want I'm GNA wait but I don't want to go another six months without putting out music yeah so I just
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started recording joints and was going to put out an album be in that six
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months yeah and what winded up happening is we winded up I winded up doing like
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the joint like my side uh there was a couple other joints that I did like to live and die in New York and I was like
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hold up this music is coming out very good yeah I don't want to rush this
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process because I don't want to rush past these bunch of songs that I got and I just was like I guess let me just keep
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recording while this whole process is going on and and not put something out and just keep adding on and building and
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building and building and what winded up happening is we put out rides of the silver back and I was was already recording for this album I didn't know
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what I was going to call it but I winded up doing like 30 40 songs for this album I just kep I just recorded and I was
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just like you know when it when it comes time we'll just pick the best Bunch um
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and then I really just sat with it cuz you know each song I'm not a guy that goes to the studio and just records and
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it's like whatever comes out no like I get a beat I might sit with it for a month or two then I'll stay I I'll write
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it at my house one by the time I get to the studio like I could record five songs in two hours cuz everything's
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already written everything all I need is the studio just to record it yeah uh so
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I was like uh every song was like my baby man so I was like man I love all of these
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songs but it was like yo what's what could I not live without being on this album and I really just sat through a
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process for like a year of taking stuff out like a chemist like yo this is going to go here then putting the track list
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together that you know that's that's important yeah like how I how I listen to albums is I try to listen to it
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straight through how the artists would intend me to yeah um I'm not I don't really do that playlist I listen when
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music comes out I listen to it the whole way um like old school like when you bought a CD from the CD store from from
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the you know whatever so um it's really fine tuned so I took the best 12 joint
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out of the intro and uh I feel like it's probably my best work to date this American sweetheart man so you know
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different producers with send me now ask you that who did the majority of production nobody did the majority I got
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static uh uh we got some new listen the my side joint is like some kids that
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they found the beat on beat Stars you know like yeah it's whatever like I think whatever yeah we got um Ron brow
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did a joint uh he did it's on the the deluxe that we're about to put out the wrong joint Ron brows joint Vinnie Idol
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I love Lincoln with Vinnie Idol man he's you know he's just punch you in your face real um static got this kid Deli
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Deli got beats he's from Seattle I believe okay always always sends me fire
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um so just a whole bunch of different producers okay you talk about uh on I forget the record but you talk about not
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wanting as many features and the last one had like a lot of mad features yeah
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this one not that many like none no rappers though right yeah n so what happened uh originally so the last album
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was scram it was easy cuz I could just make scram go ask and make scram go out
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and it was just like and it was also my major label debut so I was feeling myself you know I at the first time in
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my life I could reach out to any rap I wanted to and they was like yeah yeah so
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we had the joints with Dave East uncle murder Chic luch pey crack Fat Joe you
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know what I'm saying so I had a bunch of um people on this this one um like I
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said I was just recording joints yeah I didn't have any specific thing but we did have a joint with logic I did have a
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joint with ASAP Ferg and uh jiss was supposed to be one by the time the album
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came out uh Ferg I didn't like the song yeah now listen for to keep it real to
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have an album you want the number to go up so you would put Ferg on it you would put Logic on it you would put J kiss but
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the song with fer I wasn't feeling it he did the adbs on go fat boy cuz we was
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just in the studio we did the song and I was playing him some of the album and he was like this joint is f i was like yo
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go put adbs on it and he put it on it's kind of like you know uh Kanye with Jeezy on you know can't tell me nothing
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you know it's I like this is Art to me man I really appreciate the art I'm really from the culture I'm graffiti and
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I'm all I'm doing all of that from the culture um so the little things matter to me um so he put the ads the logic
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song I had he gave me the verse like two years ago he wanted to change the verse
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and then I was just like whatever you know what I'm saying well we'll get to that later we'll get to it another time I ain't worried about
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it and then kiss uh kiss was like yo I got you he's a busy man yeah you know what I'm saying he didn't get to it yeah
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but I'm not going to I ask you once I'm not going to beg you for but I'm not going to keep that g for [ __ ] it
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happens it happens if it don't we'll get to it another time so you know um I was
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like this music is good enough that we don't need nobody on it man I'm not gonna go go around running around behind
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other rappers man right it is what it is I like that I like that CU that's a teachable moment most people think once
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you get signed people tell you still have to face adversities absolutely you know mean but a lot of people believe
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that like oh anybody they should be jumping into a song with you because you're pop or whatever but still and
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there no disrespect to the artist it's just it's adversities that's people get busy I don't like asking nobody for
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nothing I'm the same way I'm saying and if I ask you if I do come you know and ask you for it and you don't make it
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happen kind of gives me a resentment with you you know what I'm saying ain't no beef or nothing but it's just like
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all right your life you know what I'm saying right hold on um speaking of life
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um you ever thought about doing um so you ever heard of The Jerky Boys obviously absolutely so I don't know if
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you thought about this but you should do turn that um don't ever disrespect me into an album or even a movie like
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absolutely you should you should record that and put it out as an album or visually as a movie like what you about
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that it's like JY boys was different CU they could just call people know what I'm saying my [ __ ] is I'm catching
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people on the street I would have to think about how it would work but I'm definitely down that jery boys I used to
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buy their cassette tap funny I used to listen to that with my mom's die
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laughing that's hilarious that's hilarious so absolutely I immediately thought about them them should piggy
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back off this so to speak and put an album out you know I mean don't ever disrespect me people buy that like I'm
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from the culture like everything that was coming out I was consuming it I was the only child I had a big family and a
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lot of cousins that I treat like my brothers and sisters but at the end of the day I was the only child so it was a
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lot of alone time and my alone time was spent with music with the television my
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mom's just at work I'm home alone you know what I'm saying I wasn't I was a kid so I wasn't really outside outside
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so I'm home with every Tuesday I was coping CDs whatever or tapes started
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with tapes went to CDs right that was a great feeling to open it up Tuesdays yeah know I had a spot that I would go
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to Infinity records they they would let they would release the on Friday Friday
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Friday Friday you was like you had the whole week yo this ain't out yet you don't got this was crazy I think that's
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missing I used to go to Philly for that from music like nothing is tangible anymore you just you release music and it's like that's why
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such it's such a um quick game now the time the the the the the mind the spans
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of their memory is go cuz you know it's a app now you go on the App you listen to it next week is a whole more you
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don't have to go and damn I only got $20 am I gon to get wuang or am I going to
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get n right which one which one you know what I'm saying cuz I can't get both and then when you get it you open it up oh
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it was recorded here this is who record Lear this is who produced it all these extra pictures of fire piur it was a
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whole experience it's like it's not it's not it's non-existent that's what takes away from the music 100 takes away from
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so that's what I did with like with the vinyl so with the vinyl that we're dropping um with the deluxe I took my
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time with it I wrote where everything was recorded additional vocals you know some songs like uh got got my man P or
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my Man Live Action just in the background talk but you won't know that so I wrote additional vocals produced by
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I wrote thank yous you know what I'm saying like I wanted to give it that same experience to the most part that I
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could right talk about the uh videos the uh visuals you're you're putting together yeah man so
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uh I just figured now everything is social media even with videos now you
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could drop a video like I did the go fat booy video and um I spent like a whole
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day like acting and doing and the video came out really good M we put it on
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YouTube and then I came to the realization like nobody really even go to YouTube to
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watch videos no more nobody watches MTV or bet for videos it might have it on and passing but it's not like back in
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the days everything is social media so what I got from that is I flew in this
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kid new High films I'm a big fan of his work he works with my man TF and and a lot of um Cali artists La based artists
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I I just like and when I was on tour TF was on the tour with me and he had him with him I saw that nobody had to tell
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him what to do he just was on his job yeah I like that so I flew him in for a
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week um and for those five days we just filmed a video for every song on the
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album and the deluxe right so we did like 18 songs in five days they're not
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the most extravagant they're not hype Williams right but this kid got a good
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eye and we got quality that every week I'm going to drop a new song on the gram
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so it prolongs the span of the album and it creates like singles you know when I
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do a song I don't do it y know this is going to be an album cut I expect I treat every song like it's the main song
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so every song song could stand individually right so you're committed to releasing I don't say only strictly
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to but releasing music only on Instagram as opposed YouTube it's going to come out first on Instagram first on
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Instagram then Tik Tok Twitter all at the same you know I post it on then it goes you know YouTube shorts now so we
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filmed it in the reals format instead of the long format pause you know what I'm saying whatever applicable um but yeah
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that that's what how people consume it now that's how they consume it now right simple we we simplify the product right all right cuz people are
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idiots a song people are idiots that's a song right there that's a song but listen Switching gears I want to cuz you
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did some incredible you just came back from Super Bowl weekend and you did what I would call a pod Clash where you were
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with Shaq all these different podcast you want to speak on and talk about that whole event what exactly what was that
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cuz I saw you with everybody us out this company called playmaker okay they do like a lot of sports podcasting okay so
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they had an event during Super Bowl weekend that was shaqs podcast uh M sea Lynch podcast and Angel
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Reese's pod Clash M MH so they just went back and forth and just did their podcast it was a whole big event in New
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Orleans and I performed at it okay uh and it was just dope just to be out there connecting with people and like
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that right um you know I didn't have the greatest time in New Orleans it was just like so packed and uh and and and
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everything like hotel rooms are hard they tried to put me in the Airbnb I wasn't with that man I hate
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airbnbs um but it was a dope experience I've been in New Orleans before but it was dope cuz it was me scram it was my
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peoples we we just had a good time and that was dope right and I I I finally got to meet Shaq Shaq shows me mad love
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Shaq is hip-hop super hold up I'm going to do you one even better this is a fun hip-hop fact you saw the movie Beat
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Street right absolutely all right so there's a section where they're auditioning for the Roxy and there's
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these two kids that are pop locking yeah one of them is Shaq one of them is Shaq what yeah that's Shaq no you lying dead
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serious I can show you yeah I yeah I can show you yeah it's sh I should have brought that up
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to it's crazy how of him and Kevin Hart is it's uh
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viral right now Super Bowl yeah yeah it was so yo Kevin Hart is so short bro
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crazy the he was in it was called fantastic Duo two kids seen that a million yeah that's Shaq the tall one
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Shaq is super hip-hop man when I a freestyle he'll DM me like yo this is hard and I don't really like to post
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people's DMS but he said he don't send like he don't write it he'll send a video of himself saying so I'll be like
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yo Shaq I'm going to post this bro like go ahead he's hip hop like he
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break album from the video he said like yo gorillas got to stick together but
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that [ __ ] on the album man that's a different level being in Beach Street he's in Beach Street pop locking that's
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crazy CH that's crazy yeah crazy you heard it here first you heard it first man you know what I mean hiop for a
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reason to that's what we do yeah yeah um you you you know I try not to dwell on this too much right because I think it's
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a dead horse right now but I will say this you holding it down for New York you know when Kendrick was
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on his Killing Spree you know what I'm I felt I a part of me was like oh the West
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Coast I love I love every bit of it yeah every single part I was he's killing it
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he's doing his job as he should but at the same time I was like man
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and then you sent me the new song and I oh thank you thank you go fat boy I was
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like thank you right um do you feel away about that now or I you still represent
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does it matter is it a thing nah I love that you know everybody and this hip-hop
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listen it's just like in real life in real life you know daro might be a
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[ __ ] today you know what I'm saying yeah today is his day to be the [ __ ] tomorrow might be my day yeah Thursday
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might be your day to be an [ __ ] you know what I'm saying everybody gets their day right now we in the midst of
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the West Coast New York had this on lock for a minute Forever at one point so much that we got mad when it went away
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right right but now it's like there's no question where it started everybody
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knows you know what I'm saying and our time will come back around you know what I'm saying there no problem you get to
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see other pieces of the culture the South had it on locked right for the most of the 2000s right and now the West
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Coast got it say this is very this is a teachable moment I'm glad you're speaking on this and a lot of people
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don't realize you know how you get stuff back by being yourself 100% that's why Kendrick is winning he's he went back
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leaned in he's West there no doubt about where he's from not like us is a is a
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California record it's not for nobody else facts he leaned in and everybody else you got to come into that
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world and eventually eventually people will get used to that and everything comes full
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circle right everything from clothing to music we going to get it back you know
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what I'm saying all the main thing with me is I pay attention but to a certain
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extent I don't pay attention where it takes me out of my element I'm I'm going to be me
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regardless I'm a product of New York City and that shows throughout everything I do right and uh I love what
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the west coast is doing man when I go out to Cali I enjoy that even but I'm here I enjoy that but like you know it's
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good to see other parts of the culture too man but it's also you know we home and we ride for the home team as well
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right I totally exhibit the same thing don't ever cuz he doesn't don't ever abandon your identity 100% you could do
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songs elsewhere but bring them into your world when you do that you know I mean don't try to conform to something you're
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not that's what L job rule Drake man worse worse oh he yeah's still
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prospering I mean Drake's still prospering too but yo kind of not not kind of 50 kill musically he killed jaru
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musically he killed jaru I think and right now the climate is like people don't want to hear Drake man it's crazy
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they don't I I think that Drake has a real problem like a real problem right now anytime Saturday Night Live or will
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farell right will farell or you or you see Max they did they trolled like all these
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corporations it's different he took it to the next he did at the Super Bowl Super Bowl Super the whole super going a
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minor yo he had the whole state that was crazy yo I never seen nothing like he
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just got to take his medicine like a man and keep it I think he got to sit down he has undeniable hits he can you know
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it's not is incredible artist man batt and [ __ ] is something he got to just chill out for a minute got to chill
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out see he could have did this love song This Love album yeah and just make a love album right but you had to throw
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shots well look he been throwing shots at pusher after that battle the
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whole uh scorpion album was shots at Pusher that's what he does he throw
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subliminals man it was all good when it was shoes on other foot when he when he killed Meek with kind of is himself now
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of the new Meek Mill the crazy
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himself at the camera that came out yesterday oh saw how you threw that man
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was that stage some people say that stage 100% that was stage I'm like the way he threw that slipper yeah that was
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true it was mad stage who throws like that I I think I somebody called him in his like condo in Australia that was
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real it was a drone though yeah yeah yeah I saw that figur it
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was like he had a weird zesty throw like like why is he throwing like that this
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this going to be interesting it was crazy you from Staten Island no I'm not from St Island why is itano cuz I'm the
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bridge to the streets oh you like that like that and you be DJing from M yeah rayco
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DJ from Ray everybody thinks so from Staten is but not with that name and all that but n Shout to Staten Island me
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right there stat let me hold something hey yo yo you
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acting we uh you you you you uh doing any more acting um I'm trying to yeah that's
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where that's where the money's at man yeah we got so right now I'm working on a couple things man I don't want to talk
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um about what I'm doing before it comes to fruition okay um but I'm working on a
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couple things that could be in in that space TV World TV lame but yeah I just
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told mexit the other day I was like you know what we got the deal we focused on rap now but let's start shifting a
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little bit to focus to let's get into some movies Life movie I'm telling you you know what I'm saying documentaries
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all of that man to you know I want some TV money that's the real now even the merch everything about you
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is streams corny Island like Wonder whe come on I get it I see it I see it that's dope a ill hat that [ __ ] is I
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need a hat B come on I mean I'm not from but I rep you know mean I need I need the hat I got you man like and I and
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I'll exchange you BBS boys jump Lex I got you BBS boys merch is popping shout
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to Puerto Rico Rob Puerto Ric with the um the white ghost call it the ghost the 88 88 Beamer y 325 all white small
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though I was like stuck like this I used my man Puerto Rico Rob's
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call for a video to Live and Die in New York bro I liter it was mad hard getting in and out bro I was like this p no
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power steering crazy but the looks like it's
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it came off the floor y yep BBS boys really do their thing man appreciate
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that thank you brother yeah man he that's dope what's what's your um what's
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your favorite song You've WR you've you've done your what's your favorite song You Know The Vibes produced by
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Vinnie Idol Vinnie Idol um that song just never gets old to me I don't know
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why uh it also took me out of dark place like when my C my two cousins passed away like when they got killed I didn't
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rap for a minute for like six months man I was just going through it right and
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I've been wanting to work with any Idol never was able to and he was like yo come through and that kind of going
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there got me out the slump he played me like a 100 beats I didn't like none of them I wasn't feeling not that I didn't
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like it I just wasn't feeling it I like and I said yo I like this you just
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did on Styles P's album and he was like oh you want that type of tempo all right he put the sample on like it's like a
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Nintendo and he just put the drums he made it right in front of me like some Hustle and Flow type okay and I was like
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God damn and I I started to write and I just was like yo Vi I'mma keep it real I wanted to write here but let me just get
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this let me sit with it for a couple weeks and let me really let let me let the pain out on the page and this just
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flowed naturally and it's my favorite song the video was dope and all of that now I'm going to tell you my favorite
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song from you okay garbage garbage I think you told us that before you killed
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that cuz you had the whole sanitation thing going on like that's my favorite record for I got when I was working
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sanitation and that's what I'm saying it was a real video 30 days for that yeah talk about that really working sanitation 30-day
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suspension and I thought they was going to fire me everybody throughout sanitation was like yo using City
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equipment in your video you in the garage they was like yo you can get fired for this and uh the people the you
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know the the higher up since s was like yo we we with it but we you know we can't have this right right um so they
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gave me a 30-day suspension man that was like the first of like many 30 I think that was necessary for your success that
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had to be done % that had to be done and we kind of edited it because the original version I had my man drive the
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street sweeper and I was hanging off of it while it was driving and the director drove in a car next to it and I was
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rapping on the street sweeper while it was going and they was like yo like you already got the equipment in it but if
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you driving through the streets with the equipment they going to really fire you so we had to edit that but some of that
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maybe I should re-release that video you should man that's my favorite that's my favorite that's my favorite I got a few
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favorites but one one record in particular gets me hyped when I'm in the gym gorilla twins it's it's actually
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just the intro yeah yoell yeah I like that was that was
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album with Bill so I get on kind of like my rockar you know like Vibes cuz you
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know Ill Bill is an ill rapper but also he got like the element of like hardore
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and metal like that's what they was into him necro so I was like kind of tapped into that vein and um it it [ __ ] came
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out dope yeah yeah it's a it's a that's a dope joint um what's next for you um I
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I got I got you you got so like what let me ask you this how is business
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excellent excellent excellent that's always my my top priority yeah it's handling business first cuz uh you got
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to take care of your financials and and stay on top of that or because nobody else is going to do that for you yeah
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you don't want to be uh unfortunately in this game there's no pension there's no
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there's no Union which we need um but unfortunately you got to stack while you
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can and uh and set yourself up for later on in life yeah so I'm on top of that
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like I you know I listened to for a while I was listening to hip-hop podcast and like that and I realized that it
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took up a lot of my time and I started being like this is
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whatever y'all choose to fill my time with is what I'm going to get out of life so I started being like let me
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listen to Money podcast like how to be financially cool you know to work in the sanitation job that taught me you know
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how to how to get credit and do this X Y and Z but up now so one of the things
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the main things I learned was like yo from 35 to 55 is the time in life where
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you on the grind yeah and you set yourself up for the future yeah um so right now that's just where I'm at every
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day we got to be doing something like if I'm not doing something I feel like um I'm
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missing out or I'm not taking care business so I say care business but what's next
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um the the the Goliath uh deal is for three albums they have the option to not
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pick up the third but I don't see why they wouldn't so okay I have uh I got probably a half an album done already
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with static selector okay the music is came out is is coming out incredible I
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also have a half album with o see the real man we have like eight to 10 songs done I don't think I'm going to do use
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that one on the deal but um you know I got little things pieces here pieces here I don't the album just came out
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like four days ago so I'm just like really rest strategizing figuring out what I'm going to do musically but definitely moving towards the TV side
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and working on movies and you know another tour okay that was I we look back I'll be telling Mex all the time
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like yo Mex like let's get this another toour Po and you know we spent two months on the road
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last winter and we saw the whole country bro we drove that's dop from New York
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all the way to Seattle all the way down through down South Midwest and then back
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to New York then down to Florida it was crazy you know while you're going through it this if it seems like a lot
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but when you look back at it pause when you look back at what you did you like
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that was dope yeah on the road for two months with your closest friends my
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cousin just had come off come out of jail um he never saw no like that and
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you got this hand in hand move merch hand in hand connect with fans that you've been seeing their names like and
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comment for years and you never met them and you got to that experience was super
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dope and I saw parts of the country that I was like all right I never want to come back here or n this place is dope
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or like this place is like Idaho they don't got good potato
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the I would expect to have the best french fry I ever had in my life it wasn't whack but it just was not the
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best it was like all right this is like regular yeah you know what I'm saying what would you say throughout that tour your biggest support show was uh
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definitely La New York La the big Denver was a good turnout uh Chicago was a good
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turnout El Paso Texas was a great turnout right on The Bard like yo we we
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literally was on the border like our hotel you could see into Mexico we drove along the border just in the daytime
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when we woke up we were about to leave like you literally see people walking to the Border like trying to get over it's
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crazy like you hear about that but to see it is another thing it's crazy even
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uh Minneapolis we went there and we got to see the George Floyd
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Memorial that was probably the most powerful thing I've seen
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definitely on tore but probably in my life one of the most's it like um it's very eerie mhm everything on that
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block has uh become a memorial to that like so you go on the Block there's a
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store there there's a gas station across the street and a couple business all the gas station is out of business it's just
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a big Memorial the spot where he passed away is a big Memorial so we spent a
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good part of the the pandemic hearing about this and
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seeing the repercussions the the the riots the the you know the whole um so
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when I was there it was very powerful yeah very
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very powerful cuz it you could easily watch something on TV and not
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internalize it but when it's in your face and you see the like yo a man died
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here cop stood on his neck imagine you you telling somebody I can't breathe
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you know I don't want to get back into that but but but it's super powerful to the point where it was just like like my
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man P had to go back to New York he had to fly back and he came to met meet us you know on like the last day when we
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were about to leave Minneapolis before we left I was like yo we got to go back here P you got to see this you know what
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I'm saying like this is something like even if we're going to be late for the next show like we have to go by here for an hour and you got to see this like we
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experienced it because it was just something like crazy and uh it really you know you get to see
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and get a more understand understanding of where we're from America know what I'm say it's easy from New York it's a
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total different experience than everywhere else in in the country there's really parts of the country that are like they they they're broke and
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it's like really very poor and very you know just a different culture than New
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York it's crazy what do you think about what's going on in the world right now like well the country right now uh
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overall it's been a few years since the pandemic and and that situation with George Floyd feels like it turned upside
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down to me at least what do you think how do you feel about it so I try not to
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get into stuff like my thing is no matter what's happening in the
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world I'm going to keep going forward so like I don't give a who the president is
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cuz it ain't affecting my money it ain't affecting what I'm doing I'm still going to be out there grinding until it's like
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really you know I have people in my life that like oh this is crazy or they pay attention did you see this happen did
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you see mhm I don't give a mhm I'm on my grind I got a vision for what I want out
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of my life that is not affecting yeah it might affect Health Care is like just like
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with my mortgage man I don't look into the PMI I don't look I just pay it yeah you know what I'm saying I got to pay it
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regardless right so to worry about all this X Y and Z who gives a it can be a
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distraction yeah right unless I can find a way to lower it or something then we'll do that but other than that I got
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to pay this regardless yeah so what what am I going to worry about it for right you know what I'm saying just get it
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done get it done all right that's a song that's a song get it done everything's a song Everything a song with you you the
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idea Master he the king of giving ideas away facts yeah yeah well man appreciate you
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coming through thank you um you know we have some some things we're going to tap in with you that's a little more
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interactive too like so if you if you cool with it we'll uh we'll check in with you absolutely little bit 100% yeah
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we still here all hip hop is still here yeah man that's a that's a establish that's a a real establishment that y'all should
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be support on a regular basis more than a lot of these boos out there that don't give a about the culture they care about
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themselves all hip hop is a platform that has proven itself for many years gives a about the culture and the people
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in it should be the numbers of all hip hop should be up just like just like the cor
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you know what I mean we're actually participants of Hip Hop we don't just talk about we active is outside heavily
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with all his DJ chunk is outside all the time everywhere you know what I'm saying and these are people that actually give
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a about what's going on in the culture so support them thorough was in a little known uh movie what movie is that what
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movie is this rapping too what movie I'm kidding rapping too where was I at Mario Van
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people the second one stop itot about that no I appreciate you
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thank you thank thank you yes sir yes sir gorilla nms your life still gorilla nms still gorilla nms yes yeah
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