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What's going on world? It's your man Chuck Creekman aka Jigsaw. All hip hops in the building with an actor, comedian,
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MC, a jack of all trades, it seems. Got the whole world shaking.
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Some shaking. Some some people are shaking I think. You know what I mean? Got everybody talking. Omar good. What's
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good with you? What's happening, man? Feeling good, man. How you feeling? I'm good, bro. I'm glad to uh talk to
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you, man. It's it's first of all, you know, your not from New York City, but
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your your brother used to be at all our parties back in the day and stuff, you know, hanging out,
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you know. And that's and that's and that's funny, too, because he, you know, he was hot at me, too, about a couple days ago. He was
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like, "Stop pandering to ignorance.
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all for the and I was like first of all first of all what the [ __ ] is pandering me second of all make me [ __ ] when you
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trying to preach to your little brother like knock it the [ __ ] off [ __ ] I'm doing what I do I'm what I'm doing um I
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don't think I've responded replied or written out of anger in a long time
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ironically I'mma give you something I wasn't planning on saying the only time I ever wrote a rhyme out of anger
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was when I was trying to defend my big brother when Nas put his ass in the song. I
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know. Look at your eyes. Like, wait a minute. Wait a minute. Hear me out. Nas
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wrote a song and said, "You [ __ ] sell out like Cuba Goodening Jr." And I lost
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my [ __ ] I was in Dr. Dre studio. My [ __ ] Focus was in the beats and it was
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Chino Excel piece. He was in the building and we all the funny thing is this is what happened a lot of producers
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that work under that have other producers that work under him you know um like Dr. Drake, you know what I'm
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saying? Everybody knows, ain't no secret, you know, he's just a mastermind when it comes to finishing touches and producing on every level, right? But
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he's got other work with him that's a part of his team and my good friend Focus is one of them. So, we would
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always be in, you know, people hear me spitting. They're like, "Where the [ __ ] did this come from?" Like, it's just it's been there for longer than I can
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explain, right? But anyway, so he had a beat. He would always put on a beat and he would have beats that he was going to
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submit to Drake later, but he's got MC's in the building, so he would open up the booth. We all get in there and have our
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turn. And I had just heard this song about Nas and everybody did their verse. Now I've always been the MC to go last.
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Just keep it 100. Anybody I [ __ ] with. If there's a bunch of us on the song, I'm the anchor [ __ ] I'm the last one
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to bust, right? So I got this. I'm spitting. I'm like and that [ __ ] Nas, let me tell you something about my brother. [ __ ] Nas.
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Like I went off on Nas, right? Everybody got like [ __ ] what you doing? And I was I was
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angry and and and I was emotional because that's my big brother by 10 years. anybody say anything about my
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brother. It's a problem. It's a problem. So looked at me and he said,
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"Nas ain't gonna respond, man." And he didn't say it like you, not like that. He's just like, "Stop."
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Right. And I was like, [ __ ] And I always like, damn, what if he hears it? What? But you know, and I'm
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sure he never heard it. And even if he did, he probably went, "Nigga, please." Um, but that's the only I ever wrapped
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out of anger, you know. So, for someone to be like like my brother trying to tell me like, "No, don't don't fall for
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the traps and you lowering yourself and da da da." It was some edge to it. I was
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embarrassed. I lied and laughed and said, "Nah, this [ __ ] don't bother me." Hell yeah, that [ __ ] bothered me. [ __ ]
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having to open up the news and look and my [ __ ] was blowing my phone up. I'm like, "The [ __ ]
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the problem is." And I looked and I saw it. I said, "Oh, this [ __ ] used an AI filter and put Wait a minute. Wait a
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minute. No, that's that's No, that's me, [ __ ] That's [ __ ] I was laughing like a motherfucker." And I said, "Yo." And
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then I was like, "Yo." And I was like, "Yo, wait a minute." It wasn't like I was on
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set and we were filming and a guy I pulled up my shirt and and taped up. I was in a
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private dressing room, [ __ ] You see me and [ __ ]
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like [ __ ] about how it looked but like like what are you doing laughing like I know what he was thinking but he crossed
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the line and you know I'm stuff I can't say for whatever reasons but
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you said you said something in the beginning of the record though you said you referred to his people you know,
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stepping to you and trying to squash it or trying to avoid litigation.
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That's in the song. Is that, you know, is that is
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listen it it is what it is. Uh
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I don't do anything uh hastily. I don't do anything out of anger. I don't do anything fast. Bottom line, I don't want
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that nigga's money. That's just me keeping it a buck with everybody watching. I don't want the [ __ ] money for what? I got my own [ __ ] I got my
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own path. I got my own legacy. I don't want the Oh, and then I got to
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sue this [ __ ] for say that's not what I want now. But some things are out of my hands
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because there's a lot of people involved in this situation. The dude is not very smart. He's he's a funny guy. You know
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what I mean? But it's like honestly this the thing. He had a win. He had a win right when he got there. Haha. He had a
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win and then he fumbled the running for the finish line and you tripped and fell because you was taunted. All you had to
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do is keep That's real. [ __ ] you had enough footage to say, "Oh, look at this movie." Yeah. Wasn't a real movie. Okay,
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great. Now, there's a lot of L's in there that people I I try not to say this [ __ ] because I know people want to
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laugh and have fun and it's all entertainment, but the truth of the matter is it takes a lot of money to put
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a movie together. You had a room full of people, crew of people he got to pay, my [ __ ] If you saying you paid for it, it
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was your [ __ ] Well, then you paid a lot more than any number that and every time you ask the number changes. That's what
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I keep laughing at. It was 7,500. It was 3,500. Then it was 5,000. It was 325. I tell you what the number was. Very
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simple. Anybody that calls me typically if they ask me a roundabout number, I keep it a [ __ ] thousand bucks with
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y'all. Independent low-level [ __ ] I'll be like, "Man, like 5,000 a day." That's that's basically why. But you got to fly
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me out first class, blah blah blah. And you got to keep the workload light. You know what I mean? Then you got a day for me, a couple scene, this and that, blah
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blah blah. This [ __ ] paid me $2,500 to do one scene. Do the math. $2,500 a.
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And the problem is he thought he was going to have to do some crazy [ __ ] That's why he went with the nipples and all this [ __ ] because he didn't have
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[ __ ] crazy. He had an actor paid to do his job, show up to do his job, and a
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grown ass man and a and a and a and a veteran that knows, [ __ ] first of all, you can't make me do [ __ ] That's a
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stupid [ __ ] either. He could have had you doing this. No, he couldn't because he tried. The original script said
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bottom of a Nike. I said the bottom of a Nike. The Nike. The original script said he
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loses a bet and then he licks. He said, "You got to lick the shoe, Poppy." And I said, "I'm not looking no [ __ ] shoot. What else you got?" And then director
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went, "Okay, here. Here's the revised script." And then I go, "What's the script?" The script says you doing jumping jacks. I was like, "Yeah, all
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right. Roll the camera." We roll the camera and he goes, "All right, now you do 10 jumping jacks and 10 push-ups." I
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said, "I'm not doing no [ __ ] jumper jacks, but I give you 20 push-ups." I'm man, I can do push-ups now. Like, all right, take your shirt off. Sure. Have
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This is the shirt I wore. I took shirt off and a tank top underneath and I did some [ __ ]
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push-ups. Five takes. I got 100 push-ups in. Thank you. Yeah. And that was it, bro. And then and like
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if you do the math, [ __ ] what was that? Like 10 $300 a push-up? Like I don't know, [ __ ] It was it it but it
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was still a good prank to say that. Now again, everyone's going to give him credit saying, "Oh." And then they're
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going to try to flip it on me and say, "You got to watch your surroundings and see that." Listen, we did a movie
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together. Percentage, the director of the movie, uh, good dude. I worked with him after
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percentage on another movie and then we even did a commercial some other [ __ ] He introduced me to another dooener.
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This is my partner. He wants to put you in some [ __ ] It's a favor favor. I'm like I can't keep doing these f. That's the problem is to tell you his note for
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you actors. Don't get caught up in the favor thing because this is how that [ __ ] happens. You get paid like yo if you can do my
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movie just and then the price lowers and then another [ __ ] here it's like here do it for him. Do it for him. So I knew
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the dude that called me in for this [ __ ] You know what I mean? It wasn't some random [ __ ] online that was just like, you know, all this booking your
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ops and all that goofy ass [ __ ] [ __ ] That was called trick.
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So, somebody you knew helped him helped him do this prank. Cameron, I put it together afterwards.
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That's why I was laughing so hard because the [ __ ] and again, you know, he keeps saying, "I didn't know. I
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didn't know." What's [ __ ] up is Camberly played that [ __ ] cuz that he just said, "Yo, man." You know what I
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mean? He called some dudes, whatever, the dudes that actually put the movie together and said, "Call this dude
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because he still [ __ ] with ho." And then booked through him. So the dude called me like, "Yo, I just need you. I just need you one scene. That's all I need
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you, man." I'm like, "One scene, [ __ ] One scene, Miami. You know, it's Miami. I fly you out first class, all that
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[ __ ] Here it's 1250 now. When you get there, I'll get you other 1250. 2500." Bam. Easy [ __ ] He I was like, "What's
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he speak Spanish?" That's how he told himself. And I was like, "What do you mean can I speak Spanish?" And she's
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like, "Uh, well, I just wondered. It don't matter." Right? Then then afterwards when the [ __ ] hit the fan, I was like, "Really, nigga?" He's like,
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"Yo, I had no idea." I was like, "You asked me about the speech." No, because the [ __ ] kept changing. D, bro, trust
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me, I've known you 10 years. I wouldn't do that to you. D. I was like, "But what's [ __ ] up? What if something happened?" Right? If
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something happened to a [ __ ] everybody knew I went with that dude, who you think they would blame? He won't be able to say, "I didn't know." No, [ __ ] If
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you invite me somewhere and then I get jumped over there, it's your fault. Like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's a good gimmick. It's
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gimmicky. It's good for his [ __ ] Da da da. He just he just slipped up with the cameras. And I don't know why. Again,
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you have to ask him why he did that. Like, why would the camera be on me in the gym room anyway? Like, what the [ __ ] bro? What were you thinking?
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That's the Hey, I I gotta say, you know, I didn't think much about it until I heard uh Fix
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Your Mouth part uh four and then and then you put it in the song context. You
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gave the context and I was like, "Oh, and you know what? else at the interview and they said, "Do
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you regret anything about it?" And I said, "Fuck no." Here's the dope [ __ ] Now, let me talk to you like an MC.
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This [ __ ] started because my name is Omar Gooding and he called me Omar Gooding Jr. A lot of people do it
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between you and me and everybody watching. I don't get bothered by this [ __ ] It happens all the time. Guess what? I got a lot of tricks in my bag.
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I'm an actor. Then I was I've done uh uh plays. I've done the you know, I've always done music. I started doing
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standup comedy. I'm now headlining getting bags for stand up comedy around and one of the bits I do is my name is
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not all my good and junior like that's that's not how juniors work and it's always black people that [ __ ] it up and white people know that they're not going
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to this whole long thing and all got so [ __ ] call me like yo Cameron I was like Cameron call me that [ __ ] we work
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together you know what I mean so was there a little bit of edge was a couple things for one as a MC when I did
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percentage every rapper that I've ever worked with Snoop Dog everybody that I've worked with motherf
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bars And then I and I sent it to Cam and he went I was shocked. Yo, that's exactly
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what his response was. I said, "Bet. I'm gonna send you a beat. Let's get busy." Send him a beat. Never heard a pee. 10
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years later or whatever years later, he's talking on his podcast 50 Cent and says, "Actors need rappers like us to
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put them in movies and Omar Good and Junior." And I was like, "Huh, all right." And again, I took my time. I
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just made a post about it. I let the people chime in. After people said, "Ah, thoughts. Leave it alone. Other people said, "I can see how you feel some kind
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of way." And I did another podcast. That podcast said, "I thought you said you were MC. You ain't write nothing." I
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said, "I wrote two songs. What you talking about, right? One disrespectful." And the other one was
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just kind of a warning shot. That's what I called it, warning shot. And then when my producer said, "Now we gonna call this Fix Your Mouth." And then we
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dropped it and it shook up the internet and and I made all of the [ __ ] blogs. I made all of the hip-hop [ __ ]
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Everybody like, "Ain't this a bitch?" I go out diss a [ __ ] now. All the [ __ ] I've done. I've done homage. I've worked with Dre's producers. I've worked with
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all these [ __ ] before and everybody's like, "Yeah, yeah, whatever. Whatever. You can rap. You're pretty nice, but so what?" Something negative.
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Now they like, "Oh shit." Right. But as an MC, what do I have to go on? Just me
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spitting. So the first one was just me just cruise control, warning shot, no big deal. Do some little things in
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there. Boom. Boom. Bam. He sees it. Sees how much notoriety he gets and comments,
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"I don't want no smoke killer." Haha. laugh out loud all my comments and I went, "Oh." I went back in the booth and
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wrote a third one. Like I said, I wrote now that third one I said, "Now I got to give him something." And I got,
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you know what I mean? First beat was strategic. It was a beat that I picked by a producer that I had just met named
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Lilo. He sent me this beat and I was like, "Oh, this kind of sound like a Cameron beat." So, I'mma go that kind of
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and I was using Cameron cadence and I'm a writer, [ __ ] That's it. I'd love Let me look dead in the camera without
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blinking. I write every single [ __ ] bar I've ever spit in my entire life on
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my boss. You understand me? And when I wrote the first one, it was a lot of
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innuendos and metaphors, [ __ ] like that. Boom. Right. Second one got a little raw. Boom. Thought it was done. Thought
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I was done. He's not going to respond. I made my point. I got an album to promote. Moving on. And out the blue, he
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mentions me in this freestyle [ __ ] He does a whole segment and he dropped. This was his best comeback that he ever
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did. He said, uh, he tried to ap mentality of Cameron. This is what [ __ ] laugh makes me laugh so much
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about. He was on his show going, "Look, man. Let me just tell y'all this is what happened. I'm sorry, Omar. It's Omar
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Gooden. That's his name." Blah, blah, blah. And I was like, he fixed his mouth, right? I'm seeing all this irony, right? He almost facing to the interview
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without tripping at the finish line. He almost facing right in the end. He goes, someone goes, "Yeah, so he's performing
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in Bakingsville, California." And right away his quick wit, I give him that kicked in and he goes, "Yeah, that's what he does now. He performs in bowling
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alleys, barber shops." Right. And I fell over laughing because I was hysterical. That was a good bow. Good. But you
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apologizing for the whole segment. Then you got to the end and jumped in with your little CR. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what he does. So I booked you. Boom.
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Boom. Boom. So I jumped online and laughed. I said, "Nigga, that was funny. I didn't know you was that funny. Good
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luck though with your [ __ ] Black man to black man. Keep pushing them dick pills if that's what you want." D I made my
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little jab and I thought that was it. Couldn't let it go and he responds
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again. But this is the thing. All of the responses he's doing, he's doing on his platform. So if the world non be the
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world listen well at least the world of hip hop. If they're not watching this podcast, I've seen his responses. So how's it look? It looks like I'm just
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constantly doing songs at this [ __ ] They don't know. I'm responding to everything he says, but they're still
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not feeling it. through three songs. Most people are going, "Yeah, all right." But he's not even doing so what?
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This ain't even a real beef, right? Then he shows the prank.
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Uhoh. Humiliation, embarrassment, and I got you. I got more
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money than you. How all those bars you spit in part one about you going to climb my net worth? I am, [ __ ] I
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booked you for a whole movie for 7500. That's not true. Why? Where does the 7500 come from? You and Queen Latif went
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half and half on percentage. I'll give you the best case scenario was that they paid me 15,000 for you gota
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look at the movie and see how many scenes was in it. It was probably seven days of work spread out through a couple of weeks. If you work on a movie for
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three weeks, you're not going to work every single [ __ ] day unless you're the lead and all this other [ __ ] I was the co-lead and so forth and so on, right? But anyway, so already a liar,
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but you're probably telling the truth. You put in 7,500 and then Queen of Ta people put in 7500 and then I got the
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15. So whatever. You can flip that narrative out of the [ __ ] way, right? But we get to this point where now
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um I'm excited as an MC because now I can respond in real time. I took 48
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hours. No, no, he dropped it on Tuesday. I dropped my [ __ ] on Friday, right? It came out. I dealt with all the [ __ ]
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going on. Everybody calling me J New York. Yeah, I'm all right. I'm all right.
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relax. I had to pour it off. Hose my [ __ ] down. Calm down. No, we got Let's
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do this. I got what? Calm the Do you trust me as an MC? Yeah, [ __ ] Yeah. Yeah. Do you trust me as a [ __ ] MC?
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Whatever, [ __ ] We'll be at the studio. Let's go. And I went to record part four. And if you listen to the last bar
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I did and you hear them [ __ ] laughing, that ain't no inserts. My [ __ ] is in the booth with me. It's a big We had
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this big, you know, sofas and [ __ ] with the thing. So most of the [ __ ] I'm spitting, I'm like, "Sh, calm down." And
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then when I got to that last [ __ ] bar, I laugh. We all laugh. We had to mute the most of the [ __ ] in there because but it was my [ __ ] going,
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"Okay, all right." I said, "You trust me now, nigga?" So, the best thing about part four for me was you got to see me
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respond in real time. I didn't take two weeks. I didn't I ain't no [ __ ] ghost writers. I ain't got this. I ain't got
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that. You know, I'm very particular about my lyrics. So, I'll have to edit and shot. Like, I had so much [ __ ] Part
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four was about 10 minutes long. I had to defend and I had to remind my producer. He's like, "Nigga, this is too long." I
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said, "We gonna stop it right here then. How about at this line where we all start laughing? We'll stop it. That's like four minutes." And he's like,
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"Yeah, but that's too long." I said, "Do you not remember recent rap beef? Think about Kendrick Lamar and Drake. Them
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songs was like six long, not like us long." Like, knock it off. I don't want to hear that too long [ __ ]
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We left it at four. And the crazy part is I have two uh producers that I really rock with right now. Well, three of my
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[ __ ] focus. We gota we got to get back on. We ain't getting really locking in. But anyway, uh Keys to Mobile Ellis
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DJM80. So Keys to Mobile sent me the first beat and then DJM80 was mixing
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everything sent me the second beat and he was like, "Damn, you only use mine for about a minute." And the crazy [ __ ] is everybody love cuz it's we won't say
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which beat is better, but it's something about you rocking and you kill. And he do that switch up. You know what I mean?
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I love reaction. I got to give props to reaction video MC's Matt Hoffer, my
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[ __ ] That [ __ ] made my day because he was very New York and he was very serious. He started off his reaction. He
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was like, "I don't like this. I got to tell you right now, I don't like this [ __ ] just coming at a [ __ ] and it's New York, [ __ ] [ __ ] out of here." But I'mma listen. I'mma not be biased. I'm
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looking at the screen like, "Go ahead, listen, nigga." And every time I said something, I saw his eyes going. He wasn't like every line, but he was just
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like, "Okay." But he kept saying, "What are we doing here? What are we doing?" Like, you know what I mean? But it's good to see that. That's that's that's
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my hip-hop, my [ __ ] That's the [ __ ] that I grew up on. You want to p you want to press play and you want to rewind it and listen again. You want to
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catch it. I love Eminem. I don't think he's the goat, but I love him. I think he does too much sometimes. Not a diss on him. He's such a genius that it's too
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much stuff sometimes. So people, it goes over people's heads. You got to rewind it. D. Uh Kendrick Lamar is great, too.
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And he does the entrance and stuff. So you just be like, "What did he say? What did he mean?" And let people figure it out type of [ __ ] But that's the
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hip-hop. So nothing I do. And it's kind of funny that some bars if you don't quite get
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it, it didn't make sense. I think I said something like all your all your uh I said your [ __ ] is scary like boo. And
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they was like it's corny as hell. No, that's how scary it was to me. Like it's like that's the point of the bar. Some
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people got it, some people like lame. You know what I mean? The only thing that me about this, the last I'm gonna say about this, the only thing that
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really bothers me about this is that the only people that are upset with me, the people that aren't saying it was dope,
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are from New York. That [ __ ] bothers me because it's never ever ever going to be an East West thing. I live in the
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West Coast. Most of the rappers that I [ __ ] with are from the West. My mother was born in Harlem. My father was born
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in Harlem. So, that [ __ ] kind of hurts. You know what I mean? I did a comedy show in the middle of all this at the
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Comedy Club in Harlem called Comedy in Harlem. Shout out to Comedy in Harlem. going back in November and my father's
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buried right across the street at the mausoleum. So I went saw to him then I walked on stage I did comedy and I was
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like a lot going on. I said you know I got a little rap beef going so I got some [ __ ] with me in case he got some [ __ ] in here. We all laughed and
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laughed and [ __ ] then I got out for like 35 minutes and just flex my [ __ ] I love I love [ __ ] around. They're real
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respectful out there. It's funny too because I remember I went into a bar right before I went in and I had a
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driver and [ __ ] because there's no parking in Harlem.
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Uhoh, I lost them. I lost them. I think
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this is your emergency broadcast system announcing the commencement of the annual purge sanctioned by the US
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government. Sorry y'all, my purge button.
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Omar will be back. I'm sure he's got a little bit more to say.
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Stay tuned. Stay tuned. I got to let them know though cuz um the New Yorkers
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that I talked to rock with it. In fact, the ones that I talked to
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told me to tell him to keep the pressure up because
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they don't think Cameron wants the smoke. And that's the interesting part
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that I don't think he understands that the comment section does not represent everything. You know what I mean? Hold
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on. Let's see where you at with it.
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You there? You there? Yeah. Hold on. Come on.
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Come on, camera. You must got some crazy Yo, I I was just saying this because we still recording.
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the New Yorkers that I talked to. In fact, right before I got on, uh, somebody told me to tell you to keep the
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pressure up because Cam don't want no smoke. So, uh, I can't speak for all New
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Yorkers, but I can tell you that most real New Yorkers and people from the
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East Coast respect the pen over everything. And me, me personally, I listen to that.
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Uh, part part four is the is the one. That is the one. I've heard them all, but part four is the one. I've listened
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to that. I can't tell you how I mean,
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crazy. I'll respect the [ __ ] I'm I want to let you get it in for something happening and we get cut off, but it's it's got replay value. Even I've played
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it over and over again. And I and I ain't gonna lie to you. Like I said, that was my biggest test as an MC
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because as soon as I stepped into the spotlight, I got hit with a Oh [ __ ] I predicted the [ __ ] in part one.
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I said, "Probably going to clown my net worth. You're probably gonna hit me and I'mma have to take a knee, but not the
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type of knee to make my neck hurt." Like, yeah, it it made me. I said, "Oh, shit." Chest all out the stomach. Damn.
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Now, how you gonna respond, [ __ ] How are you gonna respond? So, part four was respond. And I get to respond to every
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[ __ ] thing. It was it was fun to do and it was a lot and it was a labor of love because it's me and DJ and going
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back and forth and we like, "Nah, we need to drop right there. That needs to hit. You got to put that there." Boom. He's like, "Yeah, but I think it would
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hit more." He said, "You know what?" Then I had the intro was the outro. Then the part where I started the Spanish was
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actually at the beginning, but he he he put that [ __ ] together. I gotta give my props to DJ and M. He kept saying, "You did a good job on this, man. You shook
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up the internet." I said, "We, [ __ ] because your ass that's the only help I get. You didn't write nothing for me, but your ass mixing and hitting them
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drops, [ __ ] And how you brought that beat in like that, [ __ ] And how you arranged the [ __ ] at the end. Like, good [ __ ] my [ __ ] And um and and and
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respect, man. Respect. At the end of the day, I'm gonna thank Cameron for this because it's it's it's perfectly timing. I I wouldn't say, "Damn, I wish he
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didn't do that." No, because then I wouldn't have [ __ ] to respond to. I might have been cooked. If he didn't put the camera on me, I'd have been cooked
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for real. Camera was perfect. And then I put it in the bars. I have most [ __ ] but I don't,
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you know what I mean? Like your past is your past type [ __ ] And um and it's
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weird because of uh I'll touch on this a little bit because I don't have much time. But it's like in this day and age
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where we live with the with the robots and the bots and all that [ __ ] He's got this me this all this [ __ ] It's so
24:54
[ __ ] ironic because it's like everybody keeps hitting me in the DMs going, "I commented on this post and I got blocked." I'm like, "Really? Who's
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sitting there blocking every single comment?" I mean I there list of it. And he's got people I shouldn't say that cuz
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I don't know if it's facts or not. People are commenting and saying crazy [ __ ] in my DMs and then I'll go to their
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[ __ ] and they have zero post and zero this. I'm like Cam isn't you? That's are you at home doing this? And and then
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there's all type of stuff. There's a lot of offers and a lot of bookings and a lot of [ __ ] coming in. There's usually
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there was like it's probably increased by about 30 40% of the normal amount of just constant hey how much blah blah
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blah oh 25 I get 25 I was like [ __ ] that was for a scene
25:38
yesterday's price but if you think about it again on a practical level okay let's say I'm
25:45
doing 2500 right them [ __ ] add up what I'm supposed to wait around for 100 you
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might wait forever for that [ __ ] you don't see me on power and all this other [ __ ] not out of lack of trying though because that's some [ __ ] I bring up with
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my agency later. But it's funny how the phone is ringing now for me exposure alone. They want us to do a versus want
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us to do this and I don't know who the days are. So I'm let my people bet it. But I'm like first of all a versus isn't
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fair to me. I got no [ __ ] hits. That start singing his hits. It's over.
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I got this record. No, [ __ ] You know. No. That's that's a fact. That's a fact. We We want to hear battle bars. We want
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to hear battle bars from K. He told and but I mean I don't know I want to sound
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ignorant but I'm not like I I know he went up against Jay-Z and he went up against a couple dudes but I don't I
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never regarded him as a battle rapper. I just regarded him as a dude that's a lyricist. I regarded him as a lyricist.
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So I figured this was going to be fun on a lyrical level. You know he's still rapping on his thing. I see what he
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does. How I know smoking mirrors and I know cameras and [ __ ] So I know what he does for his freestyle [ __ ] But I do
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What do you mean? Wait wait wait wait. What do you mean? cuz cuz he goes in on the freestyle. You saying what are you saying? I mean I do I got to follow up.
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I I mean in my opinion he's not freestyling but I know what freestyling means to different people. When I grew
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up I used freestyle meant like literally I'm serious. I'm the guy that's been on television since Nickelodeon. They see
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my face but I don't hang around with Hollywood people. I didn't do all that go that route. That's why it it is what
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it is with me. Period. But I go to a club or whatever it is. Blah blah blah. Yeah, I heard you spit. You ain't
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spitting cornball. Let's go. [ __ ] start busting, busting. I'm busting. And it's what? And we busting. I'm not like the
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first that I remember. No, I'm busting about your shoes and your forehead. Two more [ __ ] Mo did father. I'm just
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going out and that's how I I grew up. I went on Power 106 in the 90s and I and I
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remember they invited me one time and Big Boy, this is when Big Boy is at Power 106, not where he's at 92.3. And
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we did it a couple times. The first time I did it just to promote, I don't know, maybe it was smart guy or something. He's like, "Yeah, I hear you rap." I was like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah." But I'm one of
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those [ __ ] like, "Yes, let's go." If I'm in a zone or I'm smoking, drink, whatever. I'm in my pocket. Let's go. We
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freestyling, we cipher, whatever the case, let's go. But if I'm in like actor mode and I got to remember all these story point, okay, we got to talk about
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I'm promoting this and I'm promoting this. Like, oh, you rap, too? Yeah, I rap. He's like, "Give us a couple bars." I'm like, "No, no, wait, wait. I wasn't
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ready for that shit." Right? So, I was I felt bad about that. The next time I had to go do his show, 6:00 in the morning,
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me and my [ __ ] drove there. We were freestyling from 5:00 a.m. to 5:58. When we walk through the door, we just bust.
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We walking in. Uh, there go big boy. What's happening, Big Boy? I'm ready. The destroy need the decoy. And Big Boy
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was like, "Oh [ __ ] what's going on here? Let me put a beat on. Let me put a beat on." We just start rapping. And we were rapping for like five. Well, sounds
28:34
like it felt like it was forever, but we were just rapping rapping rapping. I was like, "You got some music? You coming like that? I thought you was promoting
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your show." I said, "No, man. You caught me off guard last time. I'm spitting today. Play a song." And I played a song
28:45
on the radio and I was on the I was actually the first verse. It's funny. I'm always like I'm always the anchor. I'm either the first verse or the last
28:51
verse. This one I kicked off and I'll never forget the feeling of him playing my song. Got after my verse cut off, he
28:58
went way bring that back. Bring that back. We got to start that over. And they played the song again. And then we
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sat down. We had an interview and it was it was the best [ __ ] feeling in the world. But that was it. You know what I mean? And and there's many opportunities
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and situations that happen like that where I would show But I don't push it.
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I haven't really started pushing my music until after my father passed away in 2017, right? So when he passed away
29:21
was the same year that my son was born. And then I start checking off accomplishments in my head. I'm like, "Damn, you got a son. What if your son
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is like, "Dad, you talk about rap. You you never rap. Where's your album?" And I put out my first solo album that same
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year, you know? And then I I felt a heaviness about my father that I could feel the like, "Okay, bro. This this is
29:41
you. Go ahead. No one else, none of my my oldest uh brother plays bass, you know, that's it. My older brother, Cuba
29:47
Jr., he can sing. He was doing Broadway, blah, blah, blah, but that's not He's not gonna put out no singing albums. You know what I mean? I can sing, but
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hip-hop is my thing. So, I feel the heaviness of like, come on, man. You got to pick up the rings and go. We did a
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song called Legacy. My brother's like, "This is the best thing I ever heard in my life." Yeah, because I was rapping about you in a couple bars, [ __ ] That's why he typist.
30:06
That's That's I mean, I'm glad you mentioned your dad. you know, Main Ingredient is one of the one of the, you know, iconic groups.
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Um, and and and you know, before you pops past, you know, he you know, he
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would be out and about. You would you would it was a great It was a tough loss. Uh
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me and him were really close of all his kids. I think I can honestly say we were the closest without even like it's funny
30:30
after my brother did an interview talking about him and he kind of revealed to all of us that how they always buted heads, how they really
30:36
weren't that close. He said, "I got close my dad after death." And we all went, "Seriously?" You know, and that's
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a tough thing. You know, my sister, they had their issues, you know, the daddy's girl and him always being gone. And my
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oldest brother, he was a half brother who he didn't meet till. He was in his 20s. Everybody had an issue. Me and him straight shooters. We fought and we we
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got out. He was like, "You cold. I had something." He said, "Nigga, that favorite song of yours ever did was called [ __ ] what they talk about."
31:00
That's my favorite. That's what his favorite song was. No one ever heard the song. But the hook was [ __ ] What They Talk About. He was like, "That's my
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favorite [ __ ] there, nigga." you know, and that was my dude, man. And uh
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and uh so so so you know, that's another thing, you know, when I go to Harlem, when I get to go and I'm just like, this
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is my father grew up at the Apollo. He used to sneak into the Apollo. He sang for some of the greats at like
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12 years old. His father died at 12 and he sang at his funeral. His music is so deeply rooted. And we sang all the time
31:30
growing up. That's all we did. We were all music. Acting was just the job. But we lived and breathed music. My mother
31:36
was a is a Christian. We were born in a Christian household. But funny, my brother and sister really weren't. When
31:43
I was born, my mom got saved right before I was born. So, she would pray all the time and so forth. You know what I mean? And they're all looking at her
31:49
like, "You was just beating our asses smoking cigarettes. Now you saved, you know, so it was a weird type of thing." But even my grandmother went from
31:55
Christian to Muslim. It was our story's very deep, man. And my grandfather was a merchant marine who spoke nine different
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languages. Had a heart attack as a taxi driver in New York. His nickname was Cuba. Drove himself to the hospital and
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died. Cuba and then he named his son Cuba Jr. And then my brother Cuba Jr. named his
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son Spencer and Mason. Now, let me leave him alone. Um, but uh, but you know, so it's it's it's
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really crazy. The one thing I I was talking to my producer about too and he was like, you know, you like to say West
32:25
Coast, like the part three was a problem because at the beginning I'm like, West Coast and I say at the end I'm like,
32:31
West Coast. So like East Coast [ __ ] just on me. Oh, oh, you trying to start that [ __ ] up. What's wrong with you? I'm like, no, [ __ ] I'm just, you know,
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that's what I say. You know, I I'd like to big up the West Coast. My partner said, man, you got bars. You holding the
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West Coast back. And I was like, all right, purposely, [ __ ] Like, it just is what it is. The rap community isn't
32:50
they don't they don't I can't bite my tongue in this interview. I don't know why, but it's,
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you know, I got to be more careful now. It's a lot more people are watching and paying attention. But it's true, man.
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I've been with rapper. They know I know I get down. I just dropped a song. By the time y'all see this probably y'all
33:06
probably be taking this to called for the culture. And this song I literally when I wrote this [ __ ] I went damn. And
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I sent it to like all my MC's and my partners and they said oh so you rapping
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rapping now. And we laughed and I was like [ __ ] I wanted like I felt so good about this [ __ ] And right when the [ __ ]
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popped off and a dude hit me one of my favorite MC's glasses Malone. Bumped into him. I talked to him a lot and he
33:30
hit me. He's like, "Tag me in, [ __ ] Tag me in. I see you getting after that, [ __ ] Tag me in." I was like, "No, [ __ ] I'm not tagging nobody in cuz I'm
33:37
not starting. I know what you own record that I said, "What you think of this one? It's called For the Culture."
33:44
And he heard it. He said, "Boss, good shit." I said, "You want to jump on it?" He said, "Shit, [ __ ] say less." So, I
33:50
sent him the [ __ ] He blazed the end of that [ __ ] and that [ __ ] drops tomorrow and I'm excited about it.
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Everybody heard it. Like, yo. And I think it'll be a good switch up from uh, you
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know, just hearing me dissing camera. You know what I mean? Yeah. The recent [ __ ]
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I'm looking at this camera again. No sir. No sir. I see y'all taking y'all
34:12
little shots. You little podcasters. Most most people is on some legit [ __ ] but the people that's trying are like,
34:18
"Yeah, say something about me so we get my ratings up." Cameron Cameron, help me. Anybody want
34:24
to do a podcast? I come on your podcast. will talk, especially if it's about music, because I need to bring awareness
34:29
to mind by before I drop my album, which was the point of all this, honestly. Um, I if I was doing it for financial gain,
34:37
then I probably would invest more into it. You see ads and blah blah blah blah blah, but this [ __ ] is really for the
34:42
culture. That's really my and and you know, people that know, it's funny, a
34:47
lot of people going, "Damn, you didn't know. I knew." It's like, "Yeah, but you didn't tell nobody either, did you? I knew you had cars, but you didn't say
34:53
[ __ ] about it. Did you share that [ __ ] I dropped a song called Homage when I off of my first album I did with um
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Focus back in 2019. Did a whole video to it. Started with Jason Weaver. The video's dope. I'm rapping to myself in
35:06
the mirror. Everything's dope. I put a little every time I put the clip on Instagram, it goes crazy. And everybody's like, "Oh my god, YouTube
35:13
hit that [ __ ] for about five years and then dropped it to everybody like a year ago and said, "You should watch this."
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and it was suggested and it went from I don't know 400 views to like 30 40,000
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100,000 views like in four days and people like I get I'm seeing this I'm like yeah me too but
35:32
you know and then look at this you know what I mean it it I would say it sucks that it started a
35:37
negativity but it's not man like calm down like [ __ ] snap on each other that's what the [ __ ] we do our close
35:42
friend what we do look at this [ __ ] you go tell us about your [ __ ] forehead like what happened to your face [ __ ] like we'll snap on each other and they
35:49
go out and have drinks. You know, it's just now it's a larger stage and he had
35:54
to push his revoke TV junk. He had to do what he had to do. And he got lucky. He got lucky that I knew that guy and I was
36:02
Yeah. Come on, man. And it's all It's so funny, too. I know he keep going back to it, but hey, it's elephant in the room. We're gonna talk about it. The [ __ ] I
36:08
was wondering why the [ __ ] was with me everywhere in there. He wasn't the director. I was like, "Oh, this is the director." But he was just wait. He was
36:14
just by me everywhere I went except for the dress. You know what I mean? Outside. You good? I'm going pick you
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up. I'mma drop you off. I'm with you. No, they had like security. It was big dude. It was funny.
36:25
But I ain't going to lie, like I said in that line about to call me when I jumped down and I kept doing them push-ups and I hopped up everything. I can see
36:31
everybody. The room kind of chang. So, you know, I use a lot of metaphors. Some
36:38
[ __ ] is exact to the point. A lot of it is metaphoric. You know what I'm saying? So, I have to again I'm slowing down how
36:44
I talk because I said some words in another interview and they used it as a sound bite and the [ __ ] sounded
36:49
terrible. So, I'm not going to use those words again. Okay. But I knew what I was doing um every time I
36:58
get behind the mic. That's all I'm going to say. And you know, and as a man, no, if you could book me or hire me and make
37:04
me do some derogatory [ __ ] then my career would be entirely different. It's impossible. There's amount of money or I'd have been sold myself by now. Yeah.
37:12
Well, somebody said it and I I'mma say it again. It definitely was the biggest
37:17
uno reverse to to happen in hip-hop because you you you he had you on the
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ropes and and you flipped it. I ain't gonna lie. That was crazy.
37:29
Bro, I did a uh what's my man's name? Uh Tyson Fury. When Tyson Fury got knocked down and we
37:35
was like, "Oh, it's over." Pulling the kiss and shaking his head in like it's over. [ __ ] was at the eight
37:41
count dead then hopped up said what I thought I turned around I said damn I
37:46
can't believe it was a proud moment for me as an MC and as a lyricist for real because you
37:51
know I even was unsure I am not gonna lie I'm you know you you when your brain works like that and you think it so much
37:57
and I had so many different bars on maybe I should say this I probably I should have kept going because I trust
38:03
me that some [ __ ] I was like I should have got to that he's like this enough stop right there let's put it out
38:09
right before it was coming out. I mean, it took forever to upload. Like, every little thing that could go wrong was going wrong. And like we were trying, we
38:15
put a countdown like it's dropping at 9:00 a.m., but it didn't drop till like 10 because the [ __ ] wasn't uploading on this computer. Some [ __ ] happened.
38:21
And I was trying I was like, people started listening. I said, "Okay." And I was mad at the mix for a
38:28
while. I'm like, "You can't hear that part where I said he's like, "Brother, let this [ __ ] come out." So, it was it
38:34
was fun, man. and it raised my awareness.
38:40
Hey man, I ain't even gonna lie. I went back and I listened to all the the records I didn't hear before and not,
38:46
you know, realize that you've got a good body of work based on what I could see. You know what I'm saying? Um, I knew you
38:54
wpped, but again, I didn't know you wrapped, you know what I mean? Like I knew it was seemed like it was like a
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hobby or something, you know, for fun. And I' I've never, you know, it's like
39:05
it's like doing push-ups and sparring and taking the boxing classes and and
39:10
and and martial arts, all of which I've [ __ ] done, ironically, but waiting to
39:16
get into an actual street fight to see what you're [ __ ] made out of. And that's exactly what happened. And you
39:22
know, and I got caught with one. I was like, "Oh [ __ ] they wasn't even rapping. How is that fair? This [ __ ]
39:29
shot me while we was rapping, [ __ ] And I hopped up. Hey, one more
39:34
round. I'm not done, [ __ ] And then it made me a little harder. Like, so I was
39:40
kind of get sidetracked. You got to cut me off sometime. But the for the song I believe was one of the best songs I've
39:46
written as an MC up until that point. And then when the [ __ ] hit me with that one and I said, "We're not releasing
39:51
that one. I got to go back to the lab. I got to write and I'mma write and we gonna release this." I was supposed to release it last week. Instead, I dropped
39:58
part four because Tuesday happened and I was like, "Oh, no, no, no, no." And then it was, "Let's see what you got
40:04
now. If that's your hardest song, let's see what you can do with this." And I wrote tons of [ __ ] [ __ ] But I I
40:10
pieced it. I made it work. And shout out again to DJ for putting it through. And uh I just hope that people can can see
40:17
it all. It's not me chasing anything and looking for something. I honestly I'm just respond. I didn't plan none of this
40:23
[ __ ] Only thing is the fact that for me personally, if I talk about being actor
40:29
for a minute, um I've been a part of a lot of shows. Only one show was Oh, two shows I was the lead on. One was
40:36
Barbershop the series and it went one season. It was on Showtime and I believe the problem was we lost the core
40:43
audience of the fan base of Barbershop. Barberhop is a PG-13 franchise. We went
40:49
to Showtime. This [ __ ] was rated like NC17. We talking about number [ __ ] the [ __ ] and laughing. It was hilarious
40:55
but it was the wrong audience for them and I believe that's why it didn't go for more than a year. Then I did a show called Family Time which went on Bounce
41:02
Network and all of us know Family Time because it's been on Bounce TV which is an overtheair broadcast network which
41:08
means it's free television which means they show it in prison
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life on the show and sisters on the show everybody like and but anyway but other than those two I've never been like the
41:20
Omar Gooden show like the Jamie Fox like Bill Cosby like the Cosby you know what I mean? So I thought the one thing I
41:25
need to check off on my box is standup comedy. So, I'm like, if I can show Hollywood that I can pack out places,
41:32
and hold my own, write my own material, get better, blah, blah, blah. Now, it's funny, too. Comedy is the only thing I'm
41:39
taking a sis with, which is really dope. Like, I wrote a joke about I said, uh, people get heavy, they get fat. You
41:45
know, you get big, you just own it when you big. I hate when [ __ ] say, "I don't know how I got this big." You know how you got that big? First of all,
41:51
you ordered it. Let me get a number one, a number two, blah blah, right? I did that joke on stage and then and uh I
41:57
almost said an MC and a comic pulled me to the side afterwards. He said, "Yo, I was taking notes while you were up there." I was like, "Take a note, steal
42:02
it." He's like, "No, [ __ ] for you." Like, when you did that joke and you said you ordered it, you can go even further. Not just say, "Give me a one
42:09
and number two." You can say, "Give me blood, high blood, high cholesterol. Let me get some stretch marks, two love
42:15
handles, some out of breath." And I I said, "That's funny." And I saw how jokes evolve and get better and better.
42:21
But every time I do stand up, it's great, man. the the the the the community of standard comedians,
42:26
especially black, are very embracing to me and they're just like, "Yo, come on my show. Yo, I can I can rocket at you.
42:31
I'm doing a tour. I'm going on tour with Mark Curry, too. I got to watch him. Bro, that man ain't the unsung hero.
42:38
That man is so funny. I couldn't understand how funny he was." He had two opening acts. That was it. He was like, "Get the [ __ ] out." And he he called me
42:44
to get there. He said, "I'll let you go to get five minutes." Ah, I raced to get there. I got there too late. That's how quick he got. He had six shows at the
42:50
Ontario Improv. sold all the [ __ ] out and the last one was packed and I just got I was like I was
42:56
like this [ __ ] So anyway, so I'm learning so much but that the the the
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hip-hop beef thing again someone called me and said, "Yo, look at this." And I was like, "Ah." And I just kind of
43:06
played it by ear and it led to everything it led to. You know, they like, "Be careful. He's cooking up
43:12
something now. Be careful. Oh, he's got something. He take this.
43:17
All them [ __ ] don't lay down. He's coming. Be careful. I'm curious to see how I respond if he
43:23
comes up with whatever he comes up with. Okay. Uh let me I don't I ain't gonna hold you, but uh can can I get your top
43:30
five dead or alive? Do you have a top five? Ah, it changes so much. Uh
43:37
off top of my head, what I used to what I I nothing has changed from my my 1A and 1B, which is Big and Pac. I mean,
43:43
that's that's my 1A. I've had a a debate with a friend of mine last night, man. He's from Watts and he was like, "I ain't gonna lie to you. you ain't going
43:49
to like this, but I think Biggie was better than Pop. And I said, "Better is a hard word. I get what you mean because
43:55
he's Biggie was an MC MC, but two delivery and everything about it, but
44:01
most guys I know from New York say pot one." So anyway, so they're my one A1B.
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Um my next up uh puts Kendrick and um Buster Rimes in
44:14
in this in this part two and three. And the reason why I love Buster Rhymes is I
44:19
think he's one of the best entertainers that I've ever seen. I watched him live and I watched him rock a room before.
44:26
Ain't nothing better than Bust the Rhymes with as many people as you need in front of him going so and the whole
44:34
place is like oh [ __ ] Like it's one of he's one of the best performing MC's and he's never not had bars. He's never not
44:42
had bars. I've never heard a song when I skip next. He's always said [ __ ] So I love those two. Kendrick is is
44:49
phenomenal to me, you know, because he he comes from the you come from the same call. Battle rap this that. Think about
44:54
it. You unconscious. You want to preach a little. You want to say something. Um and then I got to shout out the new
45:00
guys, man. And I think and this my my my I love Joiner [ __ ] Lucas. I've always
45:05
been a fan of his word play and how he gets down. And um
45:13
I was so mad at J.Cole, Cole, man, cuz he duck out. I think, you know, he would be
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in everybody's top five. And he's got he's had to like It hurt me because I
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had him in my playlist and every time his song came on, it would be like, "Yeah, [ __ ] That's where your bars
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got. That's where that's that's what's up right there." And then after he ducked out, when I listened to the
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playlist, his song would come on and I I literally felt a some kind of way. I was like, "Nah, man." I don't know why. It
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was weird. That's how perception works on this. [ __ ] it bothers me that that's the fact. Uh
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you were disappointed though. I mean that's pretty You were disappointed. You were
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I was like damn I can't believe it made me stop kind of listen, you know. And uh but him and his boy Jid I love them. Oh
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them I think Jid is dope as [ __ ] The word play and just you know I like
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having to think when I'm listening be like what the [ __ ] did he say? Rewind that [ __ ] Da da. But there's a there's a middle ground. I just came from
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Memphis. My god, them [ __ ] music. The the support that they do for one another is what's really sad. And I'm listening
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in this in the in the club and I'm leaning in like a old head going, "What song is this? What is this?" Bottle
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girls like, "Nigga, this is devil. You didn't know this was from Memphis." I'm like, "Oh, that's why they know cuz it's me." They knew every every lyric to
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every Memphis song. I'm like, "Are they friends, nigga?" Like, "No, they're from Memphis." [ __ ] That's the only city
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I've been to like that. And I've been every [ __ ] every city I go, somebody playing. maybe they'll like this or they like [ __ ] the entire club knew every
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single lyric, every Memphis artist that came on and I was like, "Wow." And I be like, "Damn, this nigga's from Memphis.
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I didn't know that." You know what I mean? And um that,
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you know, they don't do over complicated [ __ ] but it's just a [ __ ] vibe and it's a culture and it's [ __ ] real. So, I love hip-hop, man. I'm I'm
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excited. Every time I go out of town too and I hear a different kind of flavor that I don't want, I'll just start
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rapping to their [ __ ] and be like, "Oh, I can get on one of these beats. My [ __ ] will sound crazy over one of their [ __ ]
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you know?" But then when I meet a producer and they hear one of my old songs, they be like, "Here, I'll send you some beats. This should be the beats
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that you can rap to." And it's like, it's like when I start as an actor and then I tell people I rap or I go meet a
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record exam, they like, "Oh, you you rap, you should rap Christian rap or rap
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about doing your TV." And I just like ah so I'd hide Flex and Smooth and Magnus and oh this I
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went like when I first put my album I put it out under Big O but no one could find it and then when you put Big O in the search engine there was five big O's
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that pop up some Simone cat a Mexican dude I was like something said [ __ ] why are you hiding your brand so then I re
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album as Omar good so uh people can find me but it's still like a little tui type of thing um and shout out to little
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[ __ ] Wayne too I think he's also phenomenal there It's so hard to pick a top five, man. You know, I think music
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is so dope that you just depends on what mood you in. Depends on what you want to get into, what you riding with, you
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know? I just I and I and and I love the baby. I love I love this new era that's getting back
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to lyricism. I love the Kendrick Lamar and Drake beef and that Kendrick
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came out on top. I'll put it that way. Um with lyricism, you know what I mean?
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He wasn't just haha, but it was too, you know, like I don't know if that's the
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truth or not, but it sounds good. We're not guy does behind closed doors,
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but damn it, that that's not some funny [ __ ] Let's rock with it. I've never seen nobody get destroyed in the sense
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of so many people piling on in my life and every [ __ ] Oh my god. You go to LA,
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it's still on. I don't even listen to the radio no more. I love the album, but now I don't. It's like, damn. Every
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other song is a Kendrick song and it's like I've never Tupac era. I don't remember them playing Tupac. Well,
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close. Tupac era was you hear Pac on every station. But this [ __ ] is phenomenal. I don't like I don't know.
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You used all your money just for record spins, [ __ ] because you everywhere. Five Grammys and he's still not stopping. But shout out, man. There's a
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lot of um a lot of underrated rappers. I do it for them. It's a lot of uh hidden gems and MC's that don't get heard on a
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on a on a larger scale. I do it for them, you know. I'm not I'm not chasing that. I'm chasing for the culture.
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That's it. Before I let you go, what about um you know, Tyrese is my guy, man. Like, you
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know, we go way back. Did you guys ever, you know, get together on a song? Baby
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Boy was so iconic. Well, we was funking during Baby Boy because
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we had two different ideas of how to achieve our our our common goal
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because he was new at at acting. He needed a big brother to help him and just like be there and this, you know,
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blah blah blah. And I was just like I was really selfish. I'm I'm really like, "No, [ __ ] I gotta I got to nail this
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part. I ain't got time to make friends, homie. I'm out here that my role is in a friendly role. I need to stay locked in
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and I'mma do my job and I'll see you on set." And it it rubbed him the wrong way. John Singleton too. We just didn't get along. We didn't we weren't beefing.
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It just was one of those times. But if you listen to the song and every time somebody books me for something or says, "Yo, can you go do this or can we put
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your picture on the flyer?" They put, "He's just a baby boy." And every time I hear that song, I go,
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"Why?" Because the [ __ ] shot the whole video without me. My girlfriend called me up and said, "Uh, you know they shoot
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a video, right?" I was like, "What video?" [ __ ] Baby Boy. And I pulled up a scene out of a movie. All my [ __ ]
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drove up and pulled up on the park. busted up in there and [ __ ] and everybody was like, "Oh, there goes Omar
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and T. What's up, nigga?" I was like, "Yeah, all right, nigga." I went and smoked some blunt with with Snoop and then I left and they were like, "Yo,
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jump in here and then throw this." I was like, "No, no, [ __ ] No, no." Because if I jump in
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and then you cut me out the video, that'll be even more of a [ __ ] problem. But uh but we buried the
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hatches. We grown ass [ __ ] man. I see him. I love him. We talked about uh he has a brilliant [ __ ] idea for Baby
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Boy part. I'm going say this right now, man, because we every time we talk, we don't get to discuss how we get to talk. Hopefully, Ree, you listening to me. You
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have a brilliant [ __ ] idea for the sequel. Your roadblock is I think you're
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trying to involve too many people that aren't going to get along on the larger scale like the the the record uh not
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record um uh uh the production companies. You think about Paramount, the different uh movie houses that all
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come, you're trying to combine something, just use the actors and change some names. That's what I think you should do. and you'll pull off what
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you're trying to pull off because it's a brilliant [ __ ] idea. I read the script and I was like this, am I in it, [ __ ] But it was great. He had me like
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it was great. I was like, "Nigga, you need to get this off." I think all he needs to do is change the names and it
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it'll rock. Um, and more recently, you know, I hit him. I said, "Nigga, I'm doing an album. I'm putting out a
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monster album, my nigga." And he hit me back. What's up? And we sw we swap beats and, you know, we'll see how that pans
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out. So hopefully I can get together and do something with him. I said something, you know, he's real opinionated, strong opinionated, dude. you know said we
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outfits that's why we bump head you know I said something I spit something that was bars he was just like damn [ __ ] you sound like you battle rapping on the
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corner [ __ ] we trying to make this and I was like [ __ ] I am that's why
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Big O. Hopefully it comes back.
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We clock in one hour.
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It's your man Jigsaw. Everybody here with Omar Gooden giving us the scoop.
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So, I think I know what's going on. Exclamation point. We did a an interview
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that resonated with people to the point where YouTube took that interview and
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referred it. Period. So in the algorithm,
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people are getting the interview uh referred to them. Period.
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We're going to have to start thinking about these things when we do these interviews. period.
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Really figuring out how to rig the algorithm. Exclamation point.
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Hey man, appreciate you, bro. I um know you had some technical dish issues or
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Appreciate your time. exclamation point. I'm going to hit up Tyrese right now and see what he's talking about. Period.