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First of all, man, you know, we have the anniversary of trap music, 20 years
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Yes. Trap music. Let's talk about it because you're the one that coined the phrase that made, you know, this form into a genre
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Right. Yeah. What was your thoughts behind? When this first popped off
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Well, I mean, to be honest with you, you know, going into making that album, it was really just we wanted to memorialize and commemorate the time we spent and the experiences we gained, the lessons we learned from our activity as teenagers
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And a lot of people, you know, they played sports. or, you know, they have, like, memories of locker rooms and traveling and playing
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AAU ball and we just happen to do something different. And just like there's a lot of people who play ball as a teenager, just as many people
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who engage in certain activities as a teenager. And still a lot of people who are going through it right now that just need to
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hear that there's a way out just need to have an example and understanding that you know it's still
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potential to to prosper on the other side of these so i mean so going into it man i just wanted to
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represent me my partners my city and people who lived the way we did um and just you know make a mark And I think you know it did that so much that we found it you know
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there were other people like, hey, man, I got similar experiences. I want to represent for my people
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I want to represent for my, you know, where I stay, my region as well. And I think those stories were so honest and genuine
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And the warm drugs made it to. where everyone in some way, shape, form of fashion
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has been impacted by the drug trade. So these stories are going to be relatable to so many people
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Whether you sold them yourself, whether you had parents that were on them
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whether you had uncles and aunts that went to prison for them
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some way, shape, form of fashion, everybody in this country has been impacted by the drug trade
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As refugees of the war on drugs, we, you know, I think we have a right and an obligation to share these testimonies
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And I think, you know, trap music would just kind of the catalyst
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And after trap music, so many others have made phenomenal contributions. and just allowed it or enabled it to evolve
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you know, into such a worldwide phenomenon. Where did the term come from
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Trap or Trap music? The Trap? The Trap, I have no idea
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I mean, it was just something that, it was just slain, for real, you know
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sort of like, you know, just like other things. no cap Like you know just you know you was in the community whether you in school or you know moving around and you just start hearing people say certain things and it just becomes entered into the lexicon
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And it was no, I mean, I think this was no different
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Around late 80s, early 90s, you know what I mean? I think that people just start saying, yeah, man, over there in the trap
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That place is a trap. You know, and I think it was kind of like a way to say, I believe, the first time I heard, it was kind of like a way to say, like, you know, a rundown, hole in the wall kind of, you know what I mean, it's a trap, you know
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But then it became synonymous with, you know, where felonious activity. In Gizzi's book, he says, the trap is anywhere you get
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getting money. Is that, is that, you know, is that fair? I think, I think that it has evolved into that. Yeah. I think
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it has evolved into that, definitely. Um, wherever, yeah, wherever drug dealers, the drug dealers office
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Yeah. Gotcha. You know what I'm saying? Where they conduct their business and have their
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they meetings. You know what I mean? Um, it's their place of business. Right. It's, it's
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interesting when we speak about origins of words in hip-hop because we use a lot of words
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cap a lot of people use we all use words but we don't necessarily know where they come from
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even the word ice how we refer to diamonds as ice that comes from raycona ghost face okay you know
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so a lot a lot of people don't know that um bling bling right yeah exactly cash money exactly
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bling you know cream you know yeah that's that's the woo you know money but you know so
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we all we use a lot of terms that we don know necessarily knowing that that what hip hop is we take something and make it out make it ours sure I think that you know the great thing about hip hop as you know and I just like
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think about it so we all know that we were well some of us were taken from our homes and
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habitats in Africa and were our ancestors were at least and you know
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and we're forced to come over here and stripped of our cultures, our languages, our religions, our traditions, you know what I mean
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And we became a people that lacked identity. You know what I mean
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And we lacked so much identity. It went to a place where, you know, a lot of us adopted the identities and the cultures of our capital
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and us not knowing a lot about our ancestry, us not knowing a lot about our historical background
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us not knowing a lot about the traditions and the cultures of
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you know, the villages and the place where we truly come from
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We created our own culture. We created our own language. We created, you know what I mean
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And now, you know, once you push forward, 50, 100 years from now
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hip hop will become the culture that identifies and distinguishes our people
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The people that were without culture and without traditions and without their own language
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You know what I'm saying? I think, and that's the beauty of it. You know, it gave so many people an identity
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and the way out. Thank you
