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Yandy Smith & Karlie Redd Talk The TV Hustle, Domestic Violence, Family & Their Top 5 Rappers
Nov 4, 2025
Two culture shapers sit down with Chuck “Jigsaw” Creekmur at WonWorld Studios. Reality TV stars Yandy Smith and Karlie Redd chop it up over love, legacy and laughter! But, the conversation is also about Domestic Violence Awareness Month, healing, motherhood, entrepreneurship and Hip-Hop. Yandy Smith breaks down her skincare brand, restaurant moves, and parenting teens. Karlie Redd opens up about turning trauma into the Courageous Awards, going to law school, and becoming a certified sex therapist. They close with Top Five Dead Or Alive and shout out their talented kids.
Chapters
00:00 Cold open and intros
01:06 Domestic violence facts and why purple matters
03:45 Why men do not speak up and the weight of shame
06:00 Mental abuse that lasts across generations
07:00 Karlie’s viral incident and her healing through helping others
10:55 Building the Courageous Awards and connecting resources
12:40 Does reality TV help or hurt relationships
18:10 Karlie’s Caribbean music lane and charting wins
20:20 Yandy’s skincare and restaurants in Atlanta and Miami
22:00 The three-steps a day success rule
23:40 Karlie’s law school plan and sex therapy certification story
31:00 Podcasting rappers, acting paths, and work ethic
34:10 Emotional triggers and family memories
35:14 Yandy’s Top Five
40:06 Karlie’s Top Five
46:00 Shout outs to their sons and AllHipHop
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Hey, what's up? It's your girl Karly Red and I'm rocking out with my boy Chuck at All Hip Hop. We had a blast.
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What's up? It's your girl Yandandy and I'm rocking out with none other than All Hip Hop here with my guy Chuck.
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What's going on world? It's your man Chuck Creekmer aka Jigsaw here at One World Studios and we got two
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celebrities, actresses, advocates, all types of things going on. Carly Red and Yandy Smith Harris. Thank
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you for coming. I know you wanted to do the intro. Do you want to do the intro? Come on, Kylie. This Oh, that was just
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for off camera. No, we on camera. No, I said, "Was that just for off camera?" Yeah, you should try it. Come on, Kylie. Just try it. You have
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your newscaster. Look, you got this. All right. And let me give you a clap and clap. Hi. We are here at the One World
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Studios where we have Yanny Smith Havis and Chuck Creek. Chuck Creek and Carly Red.
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Carly Red. Carly Red. That was good. That was good. That was good. At allhiphop.com. That was good. So,
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listen. I'm gonna get right into the the stat. Wait, tell us the the statistics
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that you were telling us and we're gonna jump right into it. One out of seven men
1:12
deal with domestic violence, Yandy. And one out of four women, one out of four
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in their lifetime will deal with domestic violence. That's how we started before we, you know. So, this is all about domestic violence
1:24
awareness month. Yeah. Well, we have an award show that we're doing October 22nd at the Atlanta
1:30
City Hall. Um, in recognition of domestic violence month, we are wearing purple.
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Um, that's the color for domestic, you know, pink is cancer. Purple is the
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color for domestic violence. Okay. Awareness. So, tell tell us about the award show.
1:48
Yeah, sure. And the award show, like she said, October 22nd at 7 PM in Atlanta at
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the city hall. We have Council Boom. We'll be giving out proclamations. We'll be giving out awards to domestic
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violence survivors. We will be g honoring also organizations from around
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the world because I feel like they don't get noticed enough for all the hard work that they do for domestic abusers. But I
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know you said something early and I want to touch on that. You said that, you know, well,
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Oh, there's a fly in here. Well, um, so sorry. Just to let you know, there's different
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type of abusers. Okay. Okay. So, there's physical abuse, there's neglect,
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there's psychology psychological psychological abuse, there's what else, Andy?
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Physical. Physical. So, statistically speaking, what you just mentioned, one out of seven and one
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out of four. Is that all things or is that just physical? That's all things. That's all things.
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So, so what I was going to as a man as a man I'm going to say it's higher than that.
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Wow. For men. Okay. Yeah. I think I believe most men do not
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talk about it at all. Can I even go a step further? I think a lot of people in marginalized
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communities don't talk about it. Um because we have we've learned, especially in our community, the black
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community, and even the Hispanic community, we've learned that what happens in your house stays in your house. Yeah. That's just kind of how
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we're brought up, right? Um and that goes with us into our adulthood because it's like, oh, what happens with my man,
3:24
what happens with my girl stays in my house. Yeah. And you we suffer in silence.
3:30
Absolutely. But I get I mean I get what he's saying that as a man is kind of looked upon. Is
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that where you were leading? Well, I I think that there's a shame attached to it, right? And most men don't want to admit that they've been
3:45
abused at all. And certainly not physically, right? Because the assumption is that if you
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get attacked, you handle that with more aggression. Um I think a lot of men accept that they
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can get hit and maybe not be hurt as bad or
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at all, maybe even. But I think that um most I know I know a lot of guys that
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have been physically attacked. And I remember when I don't know if y'all remember this, Lionel Richie was was
4:17
pummeled by his wife. Um Wow. Well, one of his ex-wives, I should say,
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long time ago. Oh, wow. And it it was really something they joked about. Wow. You know, they really they really
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clowned him. And I was I even back then I was like, man, that's that's sad. Yeah.
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Yeah. I get I get what you're saying that a lot I get what you're saying that a lot of men are ashamed to say it or
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ashamed to talk about it because they get looked upon like oh you not a real man cuz you know you speaking about how
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how could you be abused and no you I I don't look at it like that you know and
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I feel like men shouldn't look at it like that they should like you know what I was abused because I didn't hit back
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you know I I didn't I didn't want to hit her back you know and I took my abuse Yeah.
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And then I think that not enough men step up when they see men doing bad things.
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Yes. And that's sad. That makes me sad, too. Yeah. For sure. Because we for the most part, and I'm
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I'mma keep it real with y'all. One thing I hate that men do is when a woman does hit them
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and then the man hits the woman back, they're like, "Keep your hands to yourself." Now, we all know you should
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keep your hands to yourself, but we also know that the response is typically
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worse than what was given, if that makes any sense. Well, I think when you violate or you
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assault someone, you can't predict what the response is going to be, right? It's like,
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you stab me, I shoot you. You shouldn't have stabbed me. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I think either way, it's wrong.
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Um, and I think that men should have a voice in this space. I think that we absolutely need to
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keep our hands to ourselves. Um, and I think even greater or equally as great,
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I won't say greater, mental abuse is a real thing. And I I think that sometimes scars can
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go away, but the effect of mental abuse can last a lifetime. Yeah. Because it it it transfers
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generationally. And then if you do if you abuse in front of your children, that also, you know, you physically abuse in front of that transfers
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generationally. But how you make me feel about myself that will last a lifetime. I can only imagine the statistics of
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children that have seen their parents getting abused
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and growing up seeing that. You know what I mean? And then repeating the cycle. And then repeating the cycle. Can you
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imagine? Have y'all dealt with men putting hands on you or even uh mentally abusing you?
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Well, um yes. So, my situation went viral and to be totally honest with you.
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And when it did go viral, of course, I didn't speak about it and I still haven't really spoken about it.
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And when it did go viral, so many people, men, women, children,
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it was crazy like hit me up in the DMs and all my messages, everything. And I started opening my inbox like, you know
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what? Let me start talking to people because I remember the state where I was lonely and couldn't talk and I was
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ashamed to speak about it because I was like, "Oh, they gonna say I'm a victim or they gonna say this and you know,
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just to hear the naysayers and I was just like, I don't even want to, you know." Yeah. So, once I started opening my inbox and
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started talking to people and even children, I'm telling you, even kids, um, oh, my mom abused me, my dad, what
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do I do? I'm a child. And, and I was just like, dang. So, I started talking to this one lady
7:48
and she was like, I'm telling I'm like, "Get away. Get in the hotel. I'll pay for it." You know, she's like, "No, I
7:53
don't need your money." I was like, "I'm trust me, get away." She has three kids and she would send me videos of the
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kids. I'm talking deep into these people lives, right? And she would send me videos. Oh, look,
8:04
we in the hotel. Look, Carly. And I'll send her a video back like, "I'm so proud of you." And um so I didn't hear
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from her for a little while and I was like, "Oh, okay. she's probably doing good, living her life, you know. Next
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thing you know, the parents reached out to me and said, um, we're so happy that you spoken to our
8:22
daughter. This is so, you know, honorable of you. And I'm like, okay. They said our daughter passed by. Her
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abuser passed by. Passed away. Oh, no. I didn't.
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Her abuser killed her. Yeah. Her abuser killed her. And um which in that moment I reached out to
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Yandandy and said, "Okay, I told her like you know I'm in a dark
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place and I feel like me talking to these people have been my healing.
8:54
Me well that happened to me girl and and I understand and and you know me talking
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to these people is definitely my healing. So I want to do something And
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next thing you know, boom, we have the Courageous Awards. That's awesome. I'm glad to hear that because you you never really know what
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a person's going through, right? What a person's going through, but also how you can impact their lives positively. Now, obviously, that story
9:21
didn't end well. But in a in other instances, you can plant the seed even
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even being a living testimony. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So many people, you
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know, you'll be shocked, you know, just this is not about loving hip hop Atlanta, but just speaking about loving
9:37
hip hop Atlanta. So many people, I'm sure, come up to you, Yandandy. Oh, I saw that, you know, when you was doing
9:44
this or I saw whatever, whatever. I mean, I've had people crying me in the streets like, "Oh my god, you have no
9:50
idea." When I looked at you and I saw your face and I went through the same thing cuz they can relate,
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you know, to what you're going through, you know, and so they think they know us.
10:03
They think they they really think they know us. They they really think they know us, but so when I'm talking to all these
10:10
people in my inbox, they're like they're talking to me like I'm their best friend, right? Yeah. Well, they get to know you
10:16
in their way. In their way. In their way. So, they're talking to me like I'm their best friend. I'm just like, "Yeah, girl." Yeah. So, don't worry. I trust me, I
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know. And D. But, um, that's how we got here with the Courageous Awards. And
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it's one thing I wanted to do was empower
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someone else. Show them that there's resources. You know, I can't save the world, you know.
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I'm just Carly, you know. Um, show them so modest. I'm just Carly,
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you know. I'm just Carly. I can't say the word I can't help you that much now, you know. Um, I want to show them that
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there's resources, that there's help out there, that there's other people to talk to who
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who are, you know, prepared for this, who are, you know, they they went to school for this, who knows how to handle
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these type of situations. And it's resources that, you know, you can get away. Like the lady, she, you know, she
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took her kids to the hotel. You know, there's resources and we want to bring people, the reason
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why we're here doing all this is to raise awareness and bring people from all over the world
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and make this a big thing from all over the world. Like, okay, look, you in Chicago, I'm here, too. Let's let's talk
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to each other. Let's help each other. Let's connect. You in DC, you in New York, let's connect. Okay, let me take your
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number. Let's connect. So, I have a hard question for y'all. I kind of tapped out of reality TV long
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time a long time ago because I felt like it was giving a negative maybe I would
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say a toxic portrayal of relationships and things like that and I just wasn't vibrating on that
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level. Um do you guys feel that in any way the pop culture or the reality show
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culture um does it help or hurt
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the cause? Does it help or hurt the cause? It depends on what show you're looking at.
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Yeah. Right. What would you say? It depends on what show you're looking at. Sometimes, like, like I said to you before,
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um, you know, there's certain parts of our show, I can only speak for our show, but there's certain parts of our show
12:26
where, you know, we have moments where, you know, Yandandy will be vulnerable and tell her her truth and tell her
12:32
story and say, "Listen, I'm going through something." and she may be relatable to the person on the
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other side of the television. They're like, "Dang, I'm going through the same thing. Maybe I should go that route or
12:44
maybe I shouldn't go that route. I'm not going to do what she did." Yeah. You know, I'm not gonna do what Carly
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did. You know what I mean? I'm not gonna crash out. You know what I mean? Well, I was on a reality show actually
12:56
with Kimosario. It was a short I remember Gossip Girl. I remember it.
13:02
One season, one and done. One and done. But All I remember it was wild. That's crazy. It was about the behind
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the scenes and like journalism, PR, um, news people that cover entertainment
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for the most part. But to answer your question, um, I feel like it's a gift and a curse, right? I don't think as
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people we're a monolith where we are the same. I feel like there's so much about who we are that make us who we are.
13:29
And we don't go out to our workplaces and talk about it when we have, you know, issues at home with our husbands
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or our girlfriends. We don't shout it out at church. We might meaning in the show. Workplace meaning your career, your your
13:40
corporate jobs, your if you work, if you're a bus driver, if you work at the hospital, you don't talk about your
13:46
relationship because that's not the place for it, right? Our job is to follow what we're going through.
13:52
That is our job. that is our career to let you guys in on what we're doing. Every single person that has ever been
13:58
in a relationship in the history of relationships have had tough times. They have had challenges. Our show is love
14:03
and hip-hop. So, they're going to show you a lot of the hip-hop and they're going to show you a lot of the love. Right. Unfortunately, a lot of times in this
14:10
space, we are navigating relationships where it is our first time being this age with this many children dealing with
14:16
this particular man. Yeah. Or this particular woman. Yeah. And these shows are for entertainment.
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If every day you saw us kicked up watching our favorite TV show, they'd be like, "All right, can we see something else?"
14:27
Right. Right. You you guys have watched this show every night, five nights of it, we were tired of it. So, they want to show different aspects
14:34
of the relationship and sometimes those aspects are the challenging times. Yeah. Those are the times that get posted on
14:40
the shade room. Those are the times that end up on All Hip Hop or Hollywood Unlock or some of the other blogs
14:46
because those are the times that people grab. Listen, pain is profitable. Unfortunately, people buy into people's
14:52
pain because it makes their train wreck not look so bad. You know, are our lives train wrecks?
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To some, maybe, but to most, probably not, right? I think I'm blessed and highly favored.
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However, when I go through something with my husband or I go through something with another woman or whomever else, it is magnified because that is
15:10
the career that I have. When a doctor saves someone who has been suffering from cancer and they ring that bell,
15:17
that is magnified because that's what the doctor did that day. It's great, right? If I do something on the show,
15:23
they covered me going down with Briana Taylor. You know, Carly is hosting and
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really the founder of the Courageous Awards. That for that moment is going to be great. Now, will all the blogs pick it up?
15:35
We don't know. Yeah, we don't know. That's fair. Many of the blogs did not pick up when I went, you know, to
15:40
Kentucky to fight for Briana Taylor and her family. They didn't capture me protesting, right? But now, let me and Miss Dy have an
15:46
argument. Yeah. Let us let us sit across from each other in the table and just stare at each other and say, "I don't know if I could do this no more." That's everywhere,
15:52
right? You know, so it all depends on, you know, what the people want to see, where
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the clickbait is, and that is what people follow. So, does it hurt relationships? When I I would say yes in
16:04
the fact that sometimes you have to face public opinion that is just too great and the noise is very loud and it's like
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you got 50,000 people saying this about you. It's a lot to hear and it's a lot to deal with. Yeah. But then in other essence it could
16:17
strengthen the relationship where it's just like it's me and you babe. It's me and you against the world. We gonna fight this.
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Yeah. Well, I realized from that show that we were on I was like okay for me.
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Nah, cuz people started acting and I was like, "Where's the camera? Cuz I don't I
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don't see any cameras. Why you acting like that? I've known you for 10 years." And it was really weird. And I lost a
16:41
couple friends off of that. Really? Oh, for sure. You know, you've lost friends on this show.
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She was like, "Really? Stop it." Like to act like they still her friend
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deep down inside. She be like, "Cuz I just I'm I mean, that's just my personality. No, that's just not
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Yandandy though. No, she she done she done with you. She done with you. I'm just Wait a minute. What's your sign?
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Pisces. Pisces. Okay. I'm Aquarius. What? I don't believe in signs. Why not? Well, where were you born? Pisces don't either cuz I don't even
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know what I've seen Pisces that act like me. I've seen Pisces that don't act like me. I've seen Pisces that act like me. I've seen Pisces that don't. So, I don't
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really I think something's to it. Okay. So, tell me about Pisces. Well, see, that's what I don't do. I
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don't study all of them. I just study some of them. So like, so I stud like so my enemies I study
17:29
them because I'll be like, "Oh, shoot. You that one. I can't say that one cuz then they going to know
17:36
who I'm talking about." But a lot of the people I don't like are sign.
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Yes. But I like Pisces. Erica Badu is one. Yeah. Right on the cusp of Aquarius.
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I'm right on the cusp of Aries. Aries. Okay. Aries and Pisces. And then there's like
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then there's like Gemini who I I have an affinity for. I like Geminis. Oh,
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they crazy. But they they crazy. So I would I would never date one.
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Been there, done that. So anyway, not to get off track. So So what else? So
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Carly, you're doing music now. You I thought you were rapping, but you singing. Which one are you doing?
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Well, no, my genre is Caribbean. Caribbean. Well, you were just in the elevator singing. Singing.
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Oh, no. You were singing. Singing. You got And you got a mic in front of you right now. You were signing.
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You were singing. Yeah. I never knew. Yes, you were. I was not, Carly. You were at the top of
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your top of your lungs. Singing now. Really, guys? Give us a little piece. Thank you. No,
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we gonna get the B-roll. Exactly. It was a secret hidden camera in the elevator. Oh, wow. Thank you. So what why why
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Caribbean? What made you are you Caribbean? Yes. Yes. Yes. I was raised in Trinidad. My family my family whole family is from
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Trinidad and Jamaica and Bahamas and yeah Caribbean. Very very Caribbean. So
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my genre is Caribbean and R&B and you know a little hip-hop here and there. But once I tapped into my roots and
19:10
tapped into my real where I started from that's when I was like okay I feel so much comfortable. I feel I feel I feel
19:18
where I belong, you know. And that's when you started charting. She started started charting.
19:24
It's a weird world for music right now. Um everybody has their own personal algorithm. The labels aren't what they
19:31
used to be. Yeah. How do you feel you're, you know, you're going to fare? Or are
19:37
you fairing? Is the TV helping? Is it, you know? Well, um, cheat code.
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No, no, no. For for me it I really love what I do. Okay. So I I pay for my own music because I
19:49
love it. Yeah. I pay for my own music video because I love it. Yeah. I you know it's not anything that
19:57
okay well she doing this for whatever whatever it is. I'm doing it because I love it.
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I really do it because I'm passionate about it. I'm passionate about my acting. I really do it because I'm
20:07
really passionate about it. So, I'm passionate about music and I really do it because I'm passionate about it and I
20:13
really love doing it. Yeah. Okay. What else you got going on, Yandy? You you wear so many hats and we have so
20:20
many mutuals and they they be telling me what you doing. So, a couple things. My skincare line um
20:27
is really moving and holding it down. So, we have a store in Atlanta. We are
20:32
also in Bloomingdales. This is we're going into our second year in Bloomingdales now. Yes. Um, we're getting into more Bloom and
20:38
Dale stores, which I'm very excited about. Um, I have a restaurant in Atlanta. This is the second one I opened
20:44
up in Atlanta. It's called Cliche. And on November 15th, I'm opening up a third restaurant in Miami.
20:50
Um, so I'm super excited about that. Um, I've I'm mommying. That is what takes up
20:55
most of my time. Mommying um is the my kids are now entering into their teenage years. We
21:01
have a big one that's a teenager, but the other little ones is entering their teenage years and they are driving me
21:06
insane. How come? Why? How? What do you mean? It's mainly So, we got 13-year-old and 14y old, but that
21:12
10-year-old little girl. Mhm. Baby, she giving me a run for my money. Okay. She's giving me a run for my money.
21:18
Yeah. And I'm in the same space as Yandy. I been in a restaurant game for
21:24
past five years now. My first restaurant, Johnny's Chicken and Waffles. Neo's my partner in that one.
21:29
Neo. Okay. Shout out to him. Yeah, shout out to Neo. He's my partner in that location. We have four
21:34
restaurants. What? Yeah, we have four restaurants. We have one inside the airport. We have our first one was in College Park. That's
21:40
the first one I created and then brought Neil along. Okay. And um then we just started Dallas. We
21:47
got one in Dallas. You know, we just started. Then this new location, Red Room,
21:52
that's downtown Atlanta. And I decided, you know what? I'm going just do this one by one. No partners.
21:58
Okay. No partners. So, I got to ask y'all, what's y'all secret to entrepreneurial success? Because when
22:05
you start talking about kids and business and TV, all of these things in
22:11
your orbit, it sounds exhausting. It sounds not only that, managing it seems
22:18
almost feels like it seems almost like impossible. What's your secret? It's so crazy because
22:24
Tell the young people. For me, it's it's if I'm not That's just me, okay? If I'm not doing something,
22:31
moving around, being busy, d I can't do I drive myself crazy. Like, what what am I doing? I didn't wake up
22:38
early and wake up at 6:00 a.m. Wait, something's wrong. You know, I I feel off, but that's just me. I motivate
22:44
myself. I I go hard for myself. And that's been a long time. I've been doing
22:51
that for a long time. And to give advice to people out there, motivate yourself,
22:58
right? Number one. Number two, what works for me is I do three things
23:03
every day towards my biggest goal. So whatever my biggest goal is, so say I
23:08
want to open up a restaurant or say I want to become a chef. Like my newest goal right now is I am taking law
23:14
classes. I when I read that I was like, okay, now we going too far.
23:20
Why? Cuz how you my dream. Wait, wait, wait, wait. What? No, no. Blessed. It's all blessed. But
23:27
how? Cuz look, I've been floating going back to school myself. And I'm like, "Oh, how do you better do it?
23:33
I want to." But you understand how many how many certificates and degrees I have. Like literally, I went, what was it? How many
23:40
years ago? Three years ago, I went back and I'm a sex therapist. Okay. I got No, for real. I and that was only
23:48
because that's only because one day. What made you become a sex therapist?
23:53
There was an actual school you went to or was it on like online classes? Oh, no. Everything is online now. Ever since co girl, you online classes.
24:00
Oh, co. Okay. You said I didn't know if you went into the university of I don't know.
24:06
Everybody knows once co happened you don't go into school no more. It is all
24:11
online. So you virtual now? Yeah, I'm virtual. Okay. So now you
24:17
still virtual. Yes, you can. And that's part Chico. Yeah, that's part Chico. But um so this
24:24
one with with the in the beginning, but after this after I guess a certain amount of time, I got to go in two times
24:30
a week, three times. Yeah. Yeah. All that stuff. But right now, yeah, I can do it online. You're not going to use AI, are you? You
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going to be using AI, ain't you? No. You only got to know what the freak I'm doing. [ __ ] Okay.
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But back to the sex therapy thing. So what happened with that was I got a
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endorsement deal from Doc Johnson. Okay. And they were like, "We want to give you your own sex toy line." And I was like,
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"All right, cool." They was like, "We're going to take you on tour with us and everything." I was like, "Who? I'm not turning down no money. Would you?"
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Nope. Okay. I was like, "Though, no, you ain't turning down this type of money." A sex toy. sex toy line
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like okay you can have it would say if they only gave you how much money
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it was like look it up it's on TMZ everywhere it was it was a large amount I have to think about it I be thinking
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about my mom all the time like no but this is how do I promote this right no because it it's not Imagine picking
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any toy they said pick a toy pick whatever toy you want and that's yours and that's what you promote
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so I had to pick a certain amount of toys and that's what I promoted Okay. So, it could be anything.
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But women are open with it. They be like, "Yeah, I got the rabbit and I got the freezy." Harley is open with it. I don't know
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that I would sit and talk about the sex toy. No, because first of all, there's
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many types of sex toys. All right. Just like you guys got to open your mind. So, just like you opened up,
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can you give us Can you give us a a premiere of a commercial that you would do for your sex toy? But wait, let me tell you. Finish tell
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you. See you on Let me tell you how I got here. See a commercial. Let me tell you how I got here. How was you promoted?
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So, so he said, you know, we're going to take you on tour and you're going to make x amount of dollars just going to
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different conventions about talking about your sex toys, Doc Johnson. Talking about Doc Johnson,
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talking about sex or whatever. And I was like, okay. So, the first one was in Brooklyn, actually.
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And I was like, okay. So, I'm sitting there and I'm like, I did not know. People are asking questions. I don't
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know what the freak I'm talking about. How does this work? How does that work? D what you know what does it do to
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stimulate the man and d I was just like stuck on track. I said oh [ __ ] I was
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like oh hell no. So you know what you do? You dance. Right.
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You got up in the middle of convention and you was dancing.
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That is not what you did. Yes I did. This is a real story. So what you know
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what you do when you dance, right? So, I was just like, and everybody like, "Okay, we're going to start dancing, right?" I was like, "Pull up the music."
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Hey, hey. So, after I left there, I spoke to the CEO and I said,
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"I'm so embarrassed. I I did not know. I kept I had a real
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moment with him. I said, "I'm so embarrassed. I did not know what the freak I'm talking about. I don't know about, you know, the stimulation of a
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man. Where's this and where's that?" You know, all these parts and body parts and everything. So he's
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like, "Um, you know, you can go back to school and I'll send you to school."
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I was like, "For real?" Yeah. He was like, "Yeah, you go back to school and and get your sexology and
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just take an exam with the American Board of Sexy and D. I'm doing it
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official." And so I went Yeah. And after that, I got my certificate, everything, and
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people started booking me. Okay. So now I literally would do bachelorette parties. Um this one lady,
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she books me every year for a convention and I literally go up there and I speak at her convention. Um I do bachelor be
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parties, I do conventions, I do everything. And now Doc Johnson just calls me anytime they need me.
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Wow. Think about it now. So that is a good point to the people out there. Don't you know especially our
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people you know learning is key. Hell yeah.
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Learning is key. Research is key. She taught me that this one research is key.
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You know um is is very important and very vital. So the reason why I went to
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law school is because of situation. Same thing divorce. I'm looking at these papers. I'm getting
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sent a judge sending me this and this and that and I'm like oh hell no. Not to mention how much you got to pay the
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attorneys. Expensive. If I told you how much my attorney charged me per month, you would be like, "What the freak?"
28:53
Yeah, I have I have an idea. It's a lot. Mr. Kesler ain't no jump. He charged me
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a lot. But um after doing that and I didn't know and I'm up late at night getting research and googling what does
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this term mean? What does that word mean? And whatever, I said, man, [ __ ] this [ __ ] I'm going to law school. And
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that's how that started. Okay. When do you graduate? Oh lord.
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It's right now I'm on the journey where it's like at your own pace. Okay. Yeah. But they giving me
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want to graduate. I want to graduate in like four years. Okay. In my world, but I know it's going to
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take six. Really? Okay. Not too bad. I know it's going to take You'll be there in no time. I hope so. Thank you for that.
29:37
You going to be You going to be You going have to take Oh, shoot. Imagine. you have a judge.
29:43
I could totally imagine it. Even even without a law degree, I could totally imagine it. No, because a lot of judges are not all
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the way judges. They're lawyers. Yeah. They can speak to the law. So, they don't have to be a judge to be on TV.
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Got to have, you know, a law, you know, understanding of the law. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.
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We going to manifest it. Yep. Thank you. Oh, there it is.
30:06
You go, girl. So, um, somebody Oh gosh. I don't know what to ask y'all. What could be bad or
30:12
not good? But somebody wanted me to mention some names. Are y'all okay with that or no?
30:18
Um, what names? I don't know. What do you mean by name? Well, somebody mentioned Jim Jones. Are
30:25
Are y'all Are you okay with Jim or Oh, I haven't spoken to Jim in years. I used to manage Jim, which I'm sure you
30:30
know. We've done a lot of stuff with All Hip Hop. I haven't spoken to Jim in probably a decade. Okay. So, there's nothing there at all.
30:37
What do y'all think about podcasting rappers? Rappers podcast like do y'all feel like
30:43
What do you mean podcasting rappers? They're turning into podcasters and not
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Well, some of them are rapping and podcasting. Listen, I think how you get money is how you get money. I think that
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you should evolve, you know, and you need to find I'm not just a music manager, you know. I became a reality TV
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personality. I became a restaurant. I became, you know, in the beauty business. So if there are ways to spread
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your wings and fly and generate income by any by other means why not do it? Yeah, I don't have Yeah, I don't have
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any issue with people spreading their wings and getting money. Like why judge? Like
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Well, I think I'mma start rapping cuz I'm I'm tired of them coming in
31:26
and but people say that a lot of time too about us like when reality um TV stars go into acting, they kind of feel
31:32
like y'all got your lane. Let us have this lane. Right. But what they don't understand is reality. There's a there's a portion of
31:38
reality TV that's also acting. I'm not I would never be in a situation where I'm sitting across from a woman
31:44
that I don't care for. I got businesses. I got kids. I got to make I got things I got to do. I don't got to sit next to you, but I got to for
31:52
I might have to sit down and act like I want to have this conversation with you because we really need to talk knowing there's a check involved and they said
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on this day at this time you need to talk to this person, you know. So that in itself is acting.
32:04
Well, not well for me it's more I've been I've been acting since I was a kid.
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Okay. Um I went to Harlem School of the Arts. I went to dance theater Harlem. Okay.
32:15
I you know I really went to those schools. You do this? Yeah. I do this in my life. I mean I've
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my mom put me in courses since I was a kid. I was doing movies and all of that since I was a kid. So I I
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take acting very seriously. I do this in real life. Okay. So when people like pe people that know me know me, they're
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like, I didn't they don't even know that you really really been doing acting. You've
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been taking courses all my life all my life. And still to this day,
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you know, I freshen up. Yeah. Take my courses. Okay. Can you cry on Q? You ready?
32:51
Yeah. Oh my goodness. I was just like I used to be able to Well, I would think about my dad and I
32:57
could do it, but now me too. When I had to, I would think about my dad. Same thing. My babies are
33:02
like hitting me up for different things. They want to go to football games. This one's getting their hair braided. Sorry. No, you're good. But yes, I used to think about um a
33:09
certain situation when my dad had to go to rehab. Um when I used to take acting classes and we'd have a scene that's a
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tough scene, I would put my mind in the headsp space of when that happened to me and what I felt like.
33:20
Um yeah. So, same thing. So, dad was it for you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
33:26
Why dad? Because that was a hard situation. I was a daddy's I'm still a daddy's girl. My daddy lives in a house that I pay for
33:32
cash that is nine minutes from me. I'm still a daddy's girl. But when my dad had to go away to rehab,
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I just felt like that's my daddy. Yeah. Uh my daddy's leaving me. No, it was
33:42
horrible. It was horrible for me. Then when I had my graduation, my high school graduation, my college
33:47
graduation, he missed both of those because he had to go do another stint in rehab. It was horrible for me.
33:53
What about you? Well, my dad passed away, so that's I'm sorry about that. Yes. Sorry to have about that. Thank you. He was a good man. All right. So, I
34:00
got one more question. At least you had it then. Yeah. Well, he was a good man. So, I I I
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you know, what can you say? He was a huge loss for the family. Yeah. So, um so this is something we ask most
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people um when they come on the platform. Uh top five dead or alive rappers. Now, by the way, we started
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that way be nobody was doing that. Yeah. We started it and that was kind of
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common. Yeah, but I think we're going to do something with all the the years of asking people, so you might
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be included in that. So, do y'all have a top five? You know what's funny? I am in the movie
34:37
Top Five. Really? That is me in that movie. Get out. Chris Rock. Top Five. I got to look. I
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That is me in that movie. You see that, Wanda? That is me in that movie. Is it not?
34:48
Wow. Me in that movie. Okay. I gotta go back. Okay. Okay. is a classic and it's it's
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about the top five rappers and I'm in that movie. Get the hell out of here.
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Okay. It's Chris Rock's movie and [ __ ] Everybody was in that movie. So, who's your top five? Cuz y'all live in Atlanta. You're from here though,
35:09
right? I am. Yeah. You're from here. So, my top five is Heavy New York. So, I got to go with Nas.
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Oh, wait a minute. Is that a top five? Let's pause. Let's I got to go. I got to start with Nas. Is it a top one?
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What a cause. Cuz Nas is killing it right now. Nas is killing it right now.
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But he's always been killing it. Always been killing it. Always been killing it. Am I missing something? Nas.
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Yeah, you missing a lot. Yeah. Right now he is a master investor.
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Some of your favorite things you get into ride on do the he owns it. And you mean as far as investment? Yes, I did. I
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did hear that. Casinos, this Uber technology.
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Yeah, I did hear that for sure. And then he's still killing it on the mic. Yep. Yeah. So, shout out to Nas.
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Shout out to Nas for sure. I love Nas, too. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Gotta go with
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Biggie. Gotta go with Biggie. Okay. I know it was shortlived, but it was impactful. Yeah. It was an impactful short-lived moment.
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One of my favorite female MC's forever in a day. Missy Elliot. She's so She's a genius.
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She's a genius. and to be able to work so up closely with her. I've never seen
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such amazing work like like I mean just amazing from her creativity with the
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things that she think of. She comes up with these ideas in her head. I remember her talking to her video director. This is really Missy. This is not someone
36:30
saying I want to do this. She's like I want people to fly off my tongue and jump in the crowd and then start
36:36
stepping and do like these are things that she comes up with off the top of her head. She doesn't smoke or get high
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or anything in any way. This is her real mind. That's a good Yeah, that's a good
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one. Yeah. So, okay. So, we got Nas, we got Biggie, we got Missy.
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That's a good one. Um Jay Jay, of course, but we need Jay to come back.
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I want Jay to come back. But Jay is like, you know, I'm just I'm I'm sitting back. I'm corporate now. I'm doing my corporate thing. He gonna
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give us another one. You know, he's he's gonna give us another one. He's going to go ahead.
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I need him to to to quiet a few mouths. I need him to hush a few people up. I think so, too. I I It's a lot of talk
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about talking crazy about Jay right now. It's a lot of talk. It's a lot of talk.
37:22
I think he's getting motivated. He Well, you know, Jay does not come back unless it's kind of like a dropping a a bomb in
37:28
the middle. You know what I mean? He just put he'll put a date up, right? You'll be like, "What? Wait, but what's that?" Right.
37:34
What's that? And it just is is that that's the date. And everybody is waiting and anticipating. How long has it been? It's
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been a long time since 444 2017. Wow. Yeah. 27 almost 10. We're going towards
37:48
10 years. Wow. So, he's not gonna wait 10 years. Oh my gosh. I thought it was going to be
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Super Bowl, but we we'll see. We'll see. Yeah. All right. So, your last one.
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My last one. I want to give it to a female. Um,
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and it's a tossup for me. I have to say I'll give you two. It's a toss up for me. Um, and I'm going
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newer generation cuz I could go old school, too, with it. But I'mma give you newer.
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Okay. And I'm I'm going to say these two are killing it. And I know that um Dang. But that's
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hard. I got Okay. I got four and I'm just gonna say it and y'all just gonna let me have these last four. Okay.
38:36
I'mma go with Foxy, Kim, Nikki, Cardi. I'm grouping them all together.
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Okay, that's what I'm doing. My mom, my Mount Rushmore. I receive that. Yeah, that's fair.
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I think they're doing amazing things. I think they have been able to um really shift culture.
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I think they have been able to move masses, wage war in a huge way. And I
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think hip-hop has always been about much more than music. It's been a lifestyle. It's been a culture. It's been the way you can
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galvanize people. And if I take all things into consideration as well as lyrics,
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Kim had a movement behind her. You know, she was the one that introduced us to purple wigs, yellow wigs, red wigs, fur
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coats, and all the things and and the fabulous life. You know, Foxy made us feel sexy and and beautiful.
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Nikki got an army, right? And she made us feel playful and whimsical and like Barbie. And now Cardi is just she's just
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raw. She says what's on her mind. She keeps it real. She's vulnerable. She shows us her life and she spits.
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Yeah, definitely. And she spits, you know. And I think now she's breaking into a new era of fashion where the
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fashion icons are recognizing her, which I think is huge. You know,
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I'm mad that I had to only say five because you only asked me for five, but I could not pick one over the other of
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those four. No, that's that's that's love. And I can I can give you that. Okay. Thank you. Thank you for
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respecting me. Look, your turn. Uh, but okay. Let me ask you this. Can Caribbean people join this?
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Go ahead. Go ahead. You say rappers. You could do you. Go ahead. I'm I'm I'm here for it.
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Okay. Vibes Cartel. Okay. But okay. He's not my number one. Biggie
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would be my number one. Biggie is your number one. Okay. Biggie is not number one. He's from the Caribbean. Yes. Yes. From Jamaica.
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Mhm. So Biggie would be my number one. By the way, everybody with the last name Wallace thinks they're related to
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Biggie. And they're all for everybody. Really? Yes. Trust me. So my last name is Wallace.
40:34
It is lying. I was about to say what? She lying. Psych.
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She lying. Oh, that was a good That was a good one. Well played. Well played. Um, okay. So, we said Biggie is number
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one. Um, okay. I got I got Wayne in there somewhere.
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Oh, Wayne. Yes, I got Wayne there somewhere. Can't wait for that. Versus
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verses. What's that? Versus cash money and no limit. Oh, is they going to do a versus?
41:03
Yeah, I didn't know that. But they're family. How do they do that? Uh, money, I guess. I don't know
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when I have not heard that. Next month. Next month.
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Cash money. No limit. And Wayne will be there. Wow. All the hot boys except Turk. They done
41:22
kicked Turk out. It's in Vegas. What? I didn't hear anything about that. You
41:28
got the inside connect cuz you all hip hop. Definitely got the inside. Are you covering it? I ain't going to Vegas for that.
41:35
Retrospect. Come on. Let's go together. Why? Well, maybe. Maybe we go. Yeah. Like family. Come on. We all going
41:41
to go. Okay. What's the return of versus fly? Yeah.
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I remember um X bought it. X bought the Versus platform and then it
41:52
was I think Swiss and Timberland sold it to X, right? I think something something partnered with
41:58
partnered with them but we haven't I haven't heard anything almost since right it didn't work out so they just
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kept it moving plus Elon Musk was kind of he still is yeah yeah
42:13
you know he slowed up he's like I like living shut up right
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let us shut up on that note so you got what you said big vibes cartel
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no Yeah. Yeah. Wayne. Um, what should I tell Wayne? What about Shaba Ranks? Y'all don't be
42:30
mentioning Shaba Ranks. Mention. Did I mention Shaba Ranks in the car today? I just mentioned him.
42:35
He don't get enough love. Am I Did I miss something with him? No. No. You know, definitely. Shout out
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to Shaba Ranks. Okay. Absolutely. He is definitely a legend in his own right. For sure. 10,000%.
42:48
So, who else? Two more. No, that's not my list. Um, because you know got intertwined, you
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know, in the beginning. Anyway, um okay, Biggie, Wayne, I love me some Wayne. I
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love um vibes and who else
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now? You had all that time. I know, right? Would you say any females on your list?
43:12
I would like that whole thing you did. Can I do that, too? Would you mind if I stole that?
43:17
You got the four. You got the What do you The conglomerate. That's what we're calling. No, you can't do her. Oh, he said no. It's his house. Why?
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He said it's his house. He just did it. I want to take it. It's his house. He said no. We came here together.
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I got a person. No. Oh, I heard that, too. All right.
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That's why I said it low cuz I knew she I didn't know what she No, I really really love I really really love Biggie. I really love what Biggie
43:42
did. Like I really I'm just Me, too. All right. Go ahead. You want to say Oh, Dr. Dre.
43:48
Dr. Dre. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to Dr. Dre. I met I met him this year. Well, I've met him before, but this year
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he was mad cool. I met him at the Grammys for sure. He was taking pictures that album inside
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out. I go, "Yeah, nowadays everybody want to talk, but they got something to say, but then comes out when they move the list. Just a bunch of jeer."
44:09
Okay. Okay. You You got to start rapping more bars. Bars. You got one more.
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Oh [ __ ] Damn. Thought I was done. Um, all right. I said Nas.
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No, you a say. You didn't say Nas. What's wrong with you?
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Listen, she tired. I'm gonna get Yeah, you tired. Biggy vibes.
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Biggy vibes. Wayne Wayne. Um, and the last one I said I said Biggie
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vibes Wayne Dre. Dr. Dre. And one more [ __ ]
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Um, can I just steal her four? Go ahead. No, I think No, I I I refuse.
44:53
You know Patra, you know somebody. I know. I know. I'm not saying I like Patra. I like Patrick. I had a crush on
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Patra. Who? My cousin.
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Oh, but no, that's that's really going into SOA. SOA. I used to do SOA every year out in
45:12
Bahamas. That's really going into SOA. He said hiphop. He said rap. It could be whatever you want. Your top
45:18
five. Yeah, I do. I mean, I I as far as like good
45:25
good rappers, Eminem is a good rapper. Eminem works. He's a goat. We not holding that against him that
45:31
he's, you know, white or something. He's a good rapper. Yeah. No, Eminem's great. He's a goat.
45:36
He's a goat. Okay. All right. Final words. I appreciate y'all, by the way. Thanks for coming up. Y'all y'all made
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this long day of ours much better. So, thanks. Thank you for having us. You know who's
45:48
up and coming that I feel like could be on the up and cominging top five. Myan Linen.
45:54
Shout out. Shout out to my son. My son. He be killing it. Yo, he's so
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lyrically inclined and so conscious. I I see him rapping. My son, but when he opens his mouth,
46:05
he's going to make you listen cuz he's going to talk about something that's worth talking about. He ain't talking jibber jabberish, nothing, right?
46:10
He's talking about something that is like, "What did he just say?"
46:15
Wow. He's going to make you really reassess your life and what you're doing and why
46:21
are you living the way you're living and why these young brothers are doing what they're doing and why you not helping them not do that. Like I love the fact
46:27
that he is ill, but he's ill in a way that makes you really reassess what you
46:33
doing. Yeah. He's he he he goes in he did a song with this guy named Locksmith. Not
46:38
this guy. Locksmith is his own guy, too. They they go back and forth.
46:43
He said at first the lit my son's part was just him going crazy. He was like I
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can't I can't I can't do that. We gonna split it up and go back and forth. It's it works.
46:55
And then I just saw him at Harab Bellafonte's gala. Yeah. And we were there together. So he's one
47:00
of those shout out to my son. Yeah. My son is talented for sure.
47:05
He doesn't get enough credit but he he should get more definitely. For sure. For sure. All right. Wow.
47:10
Well, I appreciate y'all man. Any final words on? Yeah, follow us all that. And we want to give a special
47:17
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47:33
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