Suge Knight

Hip-Hop Rumors: A Suge Knight Movie?

I don’t know who is doing what over there in the news section, but they did a story on Gillie Da Kid, where he’s proclaiming he’s paying Tupac in a new movie. BUT, the factoid I am most interested in is that the movie is a SUGE KNIGHT movie. This could be interesting, if the movie is honest. If you ever want to know what went on with Death Row, read this:

Exclusive: Gillie Da Kid To Play Tupac In Upcoming Suge Knight Film; Discusses Acting Roles

Anyway, there is a new movie being developed about Suge Knight and it seems that Ving Rhames may be playing Suge? Ving and that boy Gillie are putting in work. Can you see him playing Suge?

I don’t know. Maybe.

Here is Gillie talking about playing Tupac.

Here is something that was floating about the internet in 2011, but that was a documentary.

Controversial Death Row Records co-founder Marion “Suge” Knight Jr. is the focus of a documentary that will be produced by and broadcast on Showtime, the network announced Tuesday.

Tentively titled “Suge Knight,” the film will be directed by Antoine Fuqua (“Training Day,” “Brooklyn’s Finest”) and co-produced by Fuqua and Bradley J. Fischer (“Black Swan,” “Shutter Island,” “Zodiac”).  Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist and former Times reporter Chuck Philips is also one of the film’s co-producers.

Showtime said the Knight film is the first in a series of documentaries for the network from “talented and prestigious filmmakers” that “will spotlight iconic and controversial figures.”

They keep us talking, but if we stop talking about them then they should worry! -illseed.


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  • Definitely would check for anything with Ving Rhames & Antoine Fuqua, and with all the possibilities of stuff to add & how it could easily be a 5 hr movie, or 3 parts, filmed at once, released how ever?

    Bring in Pac & Big’s momz, Lil Kim, Diddy, Dre, Snoop & Haitian Jack, as consultants, maybe have them play themselves, etc.

    Make it the “OFFICIAL” edition.

    • bisolabliss

      You do know there’s no way all those characters you mentioned are going to co-exist on a project together with Suge the subject matter, right?

      • It wouldn’t matter if the subject was Spanish grapefruits, they still can’t co exist “Together”, it would have to be stream lined & separate.

        You know if Suge gets anywhere near Diddy, he’s gonna lay hands on him eventually.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        I would think the fact that federal informants are involved they won’t do it. No telling how far that rabbit hole goes.

      • Jack = Informant

        After Pac beat the double cop shooting, they put Jack on him.

        Pac wasn’t shot to prevent him from snitching about the rape, but to silence or discipline him for exposing Jimmy & Jack as snitches.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        That sounds about right… But then why the “West Side Ride” on biggie and mobb deep and Nas? Don’t tell me what Cease said was right and Duke was pretty much just a media whore that figured “I’ll just capitalize off of the publicity to make some bread” If thats the case why back off and do the whole “Death Row East” thing and patch it up with Nas after?

      • I can’t call it on that, but I think the beef was real with Big, on some “You wasn’t supposed to let it go down like that ‘chet!”

        Money making?
        Yeah, he definitely flipped it for dough, but I doubt it was all show.

        He had to feel a certain kinda way about Quad.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Yea on his last interview he was saying Biggie was calling himself “The Don of Brooklyn” or the east coast “Boss” so how does he not know who shot him? The thing is Biggie was on some “Nigga… you f**kin with some heavyweights now… my name BENNIT” Lol And I think Bad Boy might have been funded through dope money from Jimmy and Co. But thats just an observation.

      • Yeah, but Big was “In It” like Beenit, because they couldn’t be in Quad without Bad Boy co sign & back then, Diddy needed that co-sign from Big for ‘chet to go down the way it did.

        Remember, Big was “supposed” to be Pac’s friend.

      • EL_BARK

        No true, quad was open to anybody that was paying that bread. Biggie & puff didnt own quad & were on a seperate floor. Biggie didnt even know pac was coming through.

        Also pac taking to long to show up to record the track with lil shawn, is what anger jimmy cause he was paying & being charged for the time. Pac barked on jimmy after jimmy kept calling him, and then wanted 7500 for a verse. And we know the rest. That was the straw that broke the camel back…

      • @Real_SirJamie

        I don’t think Jimmy had people waiting on him because Pac screamed at him and wanted more money. Aint that much ego in the world. I think it was more along the lines of what Edog said, they wanted to silence/discipline him for labeling then snitches. The Lil Shawn track was a setup to get him there.

      • EL_BARK

        Pac didnt call them snitches at that time. They got at him for dry snitching in the media, first & his disrespect afterward towards jimmy sesl the deal. & i dont know jimmy personally, but he doesnt tolerate disrespect very well. His resume suggest this!!!!!! So if he got out of line with jimmy, i do believe jimmy would discipline him. Just a cat using the word discipline to another man. Speaks volume. That some shet a parent say to a child.

      • bisolabliss

        Bark, some of your info is off…let’s focus on Jacques Agnant for a minute.

        Haitian Jack is 100% the snitch that set Pac up. Did you even know the lady that was raped is an acquaintance of Haitian Jack? Jack sent the girl to Pac that evening at Nell’s and the date rape occurred the next day.

        2Pac got on Jack’s bad side only after he commented on Jack’s criminal dealings to a New York Post reporter AJ. Benza. Pac felt betrayed when Jack’s attorney, Paul Brenner, decided to sever Jack’s case from Shakur’s. He got Jack a six-month plea deal in the rape case while the D.A. fast-tracked Pac’s trial.

        So Jack had a reason to want to discipline Pac and Jimmy couldn’t believe Pac wanted 7Gs to lay down some vocals while Pac in return didn’t want Jimmy to feel he could be extorted like how he (Jimmy) & Jack were extorting Bad Boy & so basically the die was cast for Pac to get that beat down, which he did at Quad. No shooting was the strict orders but Pac wasn’t going to take the beating like a sucker and all hell broke loose.

        And of course Stretch knew what was going down, he was a member of Jack’s Black Mafia gang along with Tut & Nubs

        Forensics supports his shooting claims…and if you insist otherwise, how did he shoot himself twice in the head again?

        Now, did Biggie & Puff get advance notice about the beat down? Were the warnings Big handed Pac about the impending beatdown or for him to stay clear of Jack who he coincidentally introduced Pac to in the first place?

        I’ve got a whole dossier on Haitian Jack…all his dealings with his handlers and why he was deported…all in pdf format, de-classified material, if you want I can send them over to you

      • EL_BARK

        Oh ok none of my info is all based on what u said. I knew pac was introduce to the girl by jack. She gave him hed at a club…

        Furthermore, u saying jack is an informant prolly cause you are a pac fan… Or if your not what proof di you have besides pac say it??? No one ever call jack a snitch before pac made that claim? And everyone who in the streets pretty much vouch for jack rep…. I be on a mobile so maybe my post got words left out… Also i said above, that pac dry snitch in the media is what anger jack… Pac snapping on jimmy & renig on doing the dong with lil shawn anger jimmy. If pac was shot 5 times i doubt it, but of course who can really saybwe were not there.
        But from what i know, its very hard for a person to get shot 5 times & 2 times in the head and check them self out?
        Was he grazed by a few bullets maybe, but was he shot 5 times in a manner that was meant to kill him NO. If that was the case he would had been dead. Also biggie didnt introduce pac to jack. This is again something pac fans says to substain his myth. Why would biggie introduce pac to jack only to tell him to stay away from jack? Pac started hanging around jack to get into character for above the rim. Birdie was based on jack, if big might had said jack this pac ok maybe, but thats not biggie fault for what transpire after he warn pac not to hang around him. Declassified jack files? Idk about that or how authentic they are. Also since when do feds release paperwork on informants, i think its a 40 year rule for freedom of information act. & since jack was never on trial there notes on him arent public record……. Pac was nothing but a rapper not no mlk, or malcolm x. The gov had no reason to kill him or set him up. This shet is ludacris & disrespect real matyr who were really killed cause of cointel-pro….. Pac caught a case, shet happens. Esp with you keep people like jack as your company.
        Pac not being a street niggah didnt know how to react, he was young & shelter, so he thought fight the case in public opinion.
        That anger jack, & pac not knowing the legal system thought a smart legal move, was betrayal. Maybe he was mad cause jack did the rape but yet he was going to get crucified for it. Ok
        But that the shet you deal with or except. It happens every day. Somebody fuks up and everybody gets book. It happen to me, so i dont by all this BS yall fans spit at me. Lol shet happens.
        I didnt go blame my co-d or snitch and say it his fault. Or point the finger at him. I got a lawyer & went to court…. Dont matter if you aint had nothing to do with it. You guilty by association. Pac was the star so the DA made him responsible. Cause u should had, had control of these niggahs. Instead of taking a plea, he took it to trial. Thats was his fault to roll the dice…
        Also i had an interview when pac admits he saw his co-d and his co-d shot him. So why blame biggie & puff.
        Even jimmy said that??? The niggah was an actor & he hot yall fool… Lol he then signed to deathrow stomp a dude out, who you dont stomp out. And just like the DA did. Orlando single him out cause he was the star to make an example.

        No gov no set up by feds, this had nothing to do with his aunt or mom. Its was him just doing to much and he paid the ultimate price. His life ……
        > __________ .

      • bisolabliss

        I’m not that much a Pac fan that I would ignore logical reasoning. I keep saying most of what you wrote are in sync but some of it is off maybe because of your disdain for Pac.

        Dude put himself in a lot of situation he didn’t have to no doubt mainly because he was young, hot-headed and wouldn’t listen and take advice even from his own family and advisers.

        The Quad shooting wasn’t fatal maybe because they had a strictly no shooting order but whatever transpired in the lobby, it’s Jimmy & his cohorts words Vs Pac’s… let’s leave it at that; don’t force Jimmy’s version down my throat and I won’t do the same with Pac’s.

        C’mon man, Jack was introduce to Pac by Big. Jack’s from Brooklyn and he befriended a young Biggie from Bedford Stuyvesant before Pac came into the picture. Then Pac went out to Brooklyn to meet Big, they started performing together & shit and he got to know Jack through Big…and Stretch through Jack, there’s no disputing this man, it’s a fact.

        Big warned him as a friend would…to be careful around Jack cuz Big knew Jack’s reputation. Jack was already a menace on them NY streets. Jack had Tyson & Puff to name a few shook.

        And him getting shot in Vegas goes deeper than just Orlando, if Keefy Dee hadn’t ok’d the move, it wouldn’t have gone down. Babylane didn’t just unilaterally got up and went after Pac, he had the family’s blessings who in turn were hoping to cake off Bad Boy for the move. I swear dawg, money is the root of all evil. Of course I’d expect a street smart dude like yourself to know who Keefy Dee is…

        And the Haitian Jack files I speak of are accessible in the library of congress (registration no: 1355677. copyrighted May 23, 2009)

      • EL_BARK

        I dont have no disdain for pac, just dont believe in his myth that his fan created. Also

        Your whole post is pretty much word for word from a blog that a cop wrote. Smh
        In the early 1990′s, rap music could be heard on every comer of Bedford Stuyvesant, Brooklyn -a neighborhood so bad, the local residents coined the saying ‘Bed-Stuy Do or Die.’ Jack went out of his way to get to know Biggie Smalls, a young, local rap artist with a lot of promise. Tupac Shakur heard about Biggie, travelled to Brooklyn, and the two began to perform together. Tupac put Biggie on the map. Biggie introduced Jack to Tupac, a day that would forever seal Mr. Shakur’s fate. Jack felt that rap artists should pay homage to him; after all, he lived the life they exploited through song.

        You guys based your information from stories like this. Lol
        You talk as if or you no beyond a reasonable doubt biggie introduced jack to pac, like as if you were there…
        Biggie & jack werent friends, anybody who from brooklyn can verify that… Bishop oh i mean tupac, was hanging around jack for his role. This is fact again something that cant be google or found on the net easily.. Some things the streets just know.

        I know who keefey D is as well as von zip, and the decision was easy for orlando to shot pac after he got stomp. I sure he ran it pass his uncle cause his uncke was sitting next to him when he fired. Again even if biggie did introduced him, that means what?? I been introduced to many people, that not an invitation to becausee friends & hang out. Again thats pac fault.
        Thats not just jimmy version, that the streets version and always been since 94.

        Just like biggie always claim pac knew who shot him, and this has been proven. Cause pac admitted his co-d shot him

      • bisolabliss

        Pretty much word for word from a cop’s blog?
        A cop’s blog?
        Based my information off of the net?
        That’s how you dismiss me?

        Similarities: ‘…he befriended a young Biggie from Bedford Stuyvesant?’ ‘…they started performing together & shit?’

        Don’t know of the blog you speak of…

        You have your ears to the streets and I sound like I goggled all what I’ve posted, right?

        My stomping grounds are Blatimore, Houston, LA & ATL (my hometown) in that order. You’d be amazed how connected these locations are to this whole mess and I’m only still on Jacques Agnant… but I’m not telling you what you don’t already know.

        But I digress.

        Big introduced Pac to Jack, I stand by that statement.

        And Biggie is not at fault in any of this, you’d have to commend him actually the way he handled himself when Pac went on the offensive.

        Jack was in bed with po-po and it’s on file. I’ve already given you details of the files, look it up. No need to disregard it before hand, look it up and draw your conclusions.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Damn y’all… With all the info we got and opinions… WE COULD PUT A BETTER MOVIE OUT THAN THIS AND NOTORIOUS. LOL

      • Ya heard!

        >>Sends Antoine Fuqua a bill & list of demands.

      • EL_BARK

        True. Lol they need to get monte on the project lol

      • LOL~N & SMDH

        It sounds believable, but there are a few exceptions, paying that bread = 1.

        At 4am, no average stick up kid is gonna pay for studio time to hang out in the lobby waiting to catch a lick….so Diddy & Big were running the show.

        No way Big doesn’t know Pac was coming, they were homies then, hence why Pac was mad. I think pac wanted his Guap b4 prison, and Jimmy was laying in background, because there wasn’t any REAL beef as of yet, beyond Pac calling out jack after the old school panthers peeped game.

      • EL_BARK

        Jimmy paid for the studio time, i wouldnt call him a stick up kid. Lol jimmy money was semi long… Also pac was supposed to be there at 12:00 or 11:00 but he was taking mad long, which anger jimmy… So he got there a few hours late, The phone call got made, & dont forget pac admit he was shot bu his co-d on that intetview i posted… So at that point he was green lighted….. Pac was doing the snitching not them.

      • Still, that’s some surface ‘chet, although true, they didn’t shoot Pac for standing them up the day before he goes to prison….if anything, it was just some grimey Bklyn stick up ‘chet, maybe Diddy feeding the wolves….?

        The only connection to Jimmy is Jack & for them to react like that….indicates something is going on.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Thats true but Bark pretty much summed it up. He TOLD Pac leave them dudes alone.

      • Yes, no disputing that, he definitely did.

      • EL_BARK

        No it wasnt. Puff got 2 million from arista to start bad boy, jimmy was around cause he was trying to walk straight & would benefit from having puff around. Jimmy used to throw these big ass music conferernce back in the A, where everybody would go to get put on..

        Also biggie was a rapper just cause he rap king of new york that was part of his rapper image. That dont mean he really running them streets. Plus pac admitted biggie warned him about hanging with them dudes, & biggie always stated pac knew who shot him…. If i tell you leave them dudes alone, and u dont listen. Cant blame me cause of association.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        If B.I. was just a “rapper” why were the FEDS watching him?

      • EL_BARK

        Cause after pac dry snitched on against all odds, they started watching everybody that was at quad. Lil shawn got indicted in 98, he spoke about the quad incident in a interview with hip hop dx….

        Tut got indicted with the 3 strikes your out law soon after.
        Pac snitching is what launched the hip-hop police.
        The feds were clueless about what happen at quad. But they damn sure was putting a eye on everybody… After that.

        “The feds didnt know much when pac got shot. I got a kite from the pen telling me tut got knock” lol

      • @Real_SirJamie

        So it was Tut and Dexter Issac. WOW. After all these years. I wonder if we’ll ever find out who murdered him. Not just what gang.

      • EL_BARK

        No tut didnt have nothing to do wit it, but in pac eyes he was guilty by association. In that lil shawn interview with hip hop dx he says he doesnt even know who dexter issac is?
        So on that idk only jimmy & hatian can answer that

      • *True again

      • EL_BARK

        A guy like biggie has no control over the action of guys like jack & jimmy
        Come edog, you & I both know that.

      • Not saying that, he had control over Diddy though & you know as well as I do, Big knew what was going down at Quad…before it went down.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        I think he thought they was going to like duff him out and pistol whip him. But Pac reaching turned it into something else. Thats why when he came upstairs they were looking at him like that. Pac said they were looking like “Dam, he’s still alive” when really they were probably thinking “Dam, They tried to kill him?” In NOTORIOUS they tried to make it seem like Biggie went down there strapped to help and got arrested. BULL.

      • LOL~N @ Notorious

        Pac did shoot himself in the nuts. There is a video of him at a gun range with a Mini 14, he definitely can’t handle a gat.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Lol I seen that video, and a mini 14 is a rifle he was shootin some sort of Mac. But you right it was bouncing ALL OVER. Plus he shot some kid on accident back in the day. Pac definitely wasn’t that good with heat.

      • I didn’t see the MAC video, but LOL~N at the Mini 14 jawnt.

        You know how you gotta rack the clip to lock it in like a choppa?


        Pac had no idea….looked like it was his first time handling one.

      • EL_BARK

        Its easy shooting a gun at a range,
        Pulling out a gun while a gun is drawn on you is highly risky & its a totally differernt scenairo.

      • Indeed, definitely a tad bit more complicated.

      • EL_BARK

        The fact that they didnt know what was about to go down was prolly a reason they were looking like wtf….

        Lets be readonable these all industry dudes not street guys.
        Lil cease see pac a few seconds later you hear gun shots,
        And pac stumbles off a elevator bleeding gun butted all up.
        It was the elements of surprise, like wtf just happen.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        You mean they weren’t street dudes as in what? heres Chris’s arrest record.

        Biggie was first arrested in 1989 for carrying a loaded, unregistered firearm. He was sentenced to five years probation for the offense. He was arrested again in 1990 for violating his probation. In 1991, he was arrested in North Carolina for selling crack cocaine, and he spent nine months in jail. Fame didn’t help to suppress his criminal ways. On March 23, 1996, The Notorious B.I.G. was arrested outside the Palladium dance club in Manhattan for threatening two autograph seekers. He smashed the windows of their taxicab with a baseball bat and then pulled one of them out of the cab, punching the fan in the face. Several months later, during the summer of 1996, he was arrested at his home in Teaneck, NJ, after the police found 50 grams of marijuana and four automatic weapons with laser sights, enlarged bullet clips and filed-off serial numbers. He faced another arrest that summer on charges of beating and robbing the friend of a concert promoter on May 6, 1995, at a Camden, NJ nightclub. The man received $25,000 from Christopher Wallace in a civil suit. Biggie’s last arrest took place in the fall of 1996, around the time of Tupac’s death, after police found him smoking marijuana in a car near the Fulton Mall in Brooklyn.

        That sounds HELLA “Street” to me But then again, I digress, If you are from an inner city neighborhood and know about the dealings, That qualifies as “Street”. As far as being truly “gangster” or whatever… well I don’t know.

      • EL_BARK

        Ok he had a gun charge, he violated probation for a gun charge, & caught a drug case in north carolina.

        The arrest while he was famous was exaggerated, he beat the concert promoter up for burning him out of bread.
        The guns in his house was during the eastcoast beef or leading up to it. Big was from the hood, but he wasnt a steet guy as to say he was putting in work on a heavy major level.

        Now look up jimmy rap sheet. Lol or hatain jack rep.
        Jimmy was beating murder cases, lock up with the meanest of the meanest. Where you think he got that scar from?

        Jack was kidnapping niggahs, and robbing drug dealers and extorting guys like biggie. Seem my point. Jack even dumped on a bmf niggah out in hollywood and chased him around a club and shot him before he got deported.

        Biggie wasnt even the same caliber or pedigree of them dudes, that why he warned pac…

      • *True

      • LOL~N

        I gotta kinda co-sign that.

        Definitely the average NY’er.

      • EL_BARK

        Lol idk but do a guy like jimmy dont have to ask for premission from puff or biggie to get at somebody lol

        I cant see jimmy walking in a room with all them people there and saying public service announcement.
        “Tupac is on his way by, i’m going to have some of my comrad discipline him” and give him a beatdown” it would be greatly aporeciated if you guys kept this between us.
        Thank you for your cooperation have a nice night.
        Sincerlery yours
        jimmy henchmen
        lol yeah right.

      • Bawahahahaaaa….You know I didn’t mean it like that, but yeah, i guess it sounded just as foolish.

        I’m gonna have to rethink that aspect, but my point was, Big & Did knew what was popping off, or if nothing else, that something was gonna pop off.

      • EL_BARK

        That exactly what pac was.

      • EL_BARK


        Yall have no paper work or even semi-credible accusations to back up that claim execpet for pac saying it.

        Cant call a dude a rat, when he never took the stand or got cheesey or rat treatment when he caught a case.

      • WHAAAAaaaaaTTTTttt????

        He got rat treatment in the Pac case. He’s the one who raped the chick, not Pac, & Pac got slammed?

        Don’t need to take the stand to rat, you know that.

        If I get caught driving on suspended license & tell the jake you have a stolen Honda, etc. (Switched VIN #’s, tagged, etc. ) & give you up in exchange for a dropped charge….that’s cheesing.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        They did Pac DIRTY too. basically lawyer’d up behind his back and left him with a public pretender.

      • EL_BARK

        Naw pac had a lawyer he aint used a PD

      • Not even, jack had a PBA (Patrolman’s Benevolent Association) lawyer…& got the case severed.

      • EL_BARK

        What that?
        Is that a law firm? Or a special lawyer like court appointed

      • Law firm…high power, Broadway, etc.

        Paul Brenner.

        Could be some fugg ‘chet, but who ever paid for the time at Quad, co-signed / orchestrated the shooting.

        Who did Dexter say was with him? If not Jack, how are they connected, if they are? We know he’s connected to Jimmy.

        I’m gonna go see what he said right now.

        >>Leaving so fast it makes the “PEOUN” sound.

      • EL_BARK

        Lol bullshet. Edog you fooling.
        He had a union cop lawyer? Gtfoh. How the hell u going to use a cop lawyer or a case that cops are testfying against you lmao
        That a conflict of intrest he cant take the case?

        Or do uou mean he use a lawyer that work with the cop union??
        Which is still BS, lol i dont believe it unless its a PD or something. Lmao

        You going have to show some evidence for this one, lmao

      • @Real_SirJamie

        I found that blog on Jack its called “The unauthorized story of haitian jack” its on spizzy blog dot com. whenever i try to post the link it “moderates” my comment and doesn’t show it. hmmmm powers that be?

      • EL_BARK

        Naw once upon a time when this dite used to pop, you could post all types of links. But now the disquss took over almost damn near every websites, you cant post links no more.

        Big brother i think is behind the disquss, commenting system. Before if you just posted on a site they would had to infiltrate the company system (AHH) to track you IP adress…

        Now since you on a disquss system, they have your email, which makes its a whole lot easier for them to track an person IP adress, without having acess to the websites information…
        Prolly a cyber law they passed making websites use this system.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        *eats banana and talks while its falling from my lip* I ont like dat Sh*t… I ont like dat sh*t ONE BIT….

      • EL_BARK

        Classic scene.

        I fittin to drop a dime on these niggahs

      • DJ7

        If you don’t know…you betta ask somebody…that agent Andy been diggin thru all my comments & hitting my disqus ever since I wouldn’t give his ass the time of day in the Trayvon threads…I’m talking about 2-3 month old threads…I’m like Look At Me King …I ont like dat sh*t…they trynna censor a brothas thoughts now

      • EL_BARK

        Yo i though i was the only one. Andy the agent aint been liking my comments. But out of no where i always get random likes on old threads, from months before… I thought i was the only one. Always thought that shet was strange.

      • He used a lawyer that worked with the cop union.
        Still, that’s still some fugg ‘chet, because his indictment got dismissed. The lawyer’s name was Paul Brenner.

      • EL_BARK

        Strategry also… On jack parts. Lol i said the niggah aint stupid.
        Peep game. In philly like any other big city. Most lawyer start out working for the DA, get experience network & learn how they operate. Only to leave the DA & become criminal defense lawyers lol. (Clayton davis voice from the wire) shet lol
        And guess what a major selling point the lawyers use when u catch a case, i used to work down for the DA
        (Wink wink, ) i got contacts down there, now i going to need blank amount ___________ & we will prolly get a deal or charges drop or dimisses.

        Shet i seen my lawyer & DA have some crazy convo one time i was at his office. He had the lawyer on speaker phone yold me be quiet, my lawyer had an issue, with the DA investigator threatening defense witness who wouldnt talk to their investigator & started threatrning to lock him them up.
        My lawyer call the DA, was like look, my witness dont got to talk to you & u can threaten them. I dont want to go yo the judge & it thrown out, that not my style. But i will if i have to.
        I beat cases i have no problem going to trial, but warn your people dont intimidate my witness. The DA said no problem my bad, i didnt know that was happening. Then invited the my lawyer to a party with all these ither judges & lawyers & told him they had plenty of weed. Lol
        This is the DA lmao he aint say weed but he said it in code.
        Me & my lawyer crack the fuk up, lol its slways a plus to lnow the DA smokes weed… Lol jack prolly pick that lawyer cause of who he was & he prolly the reason he got off easy?

        That shet makes sense, they all one big gang that are only enemies in court.

      • Of course, no doubt, but peep…How did Jack know to pick that lawyer?

        That’s not some ‘ole crack the phone book open & dab at a random name with a sharpie type ‘chet.

        With Jimmy snitching str8 off the muscle…..there is a connection, you sleeping if you doubt the ‘chet they up too.

        The biggest fish always tell, otherwise they would have been caught when they were smaller.

      • EL_BARK

        You think guys like jack & jimmy were or didnt have acess to some good lawyers.
        Jack was hanging with madonna??? Lol he not the usual street nobody, jimmy too… They were getting money, shet jack bought pac a rolex, so i sure in their line of work, they had some good lawyer in the tuck? Also does paul represent criminal before or since then. Cause i just saved his named in phone just in case i in NY lol and find myself a rikers..
        You looking at jack as a petty street normal niggah.
        Yeah joe blow getting a lawyer like that not likely, but jack its possible. Not to mention lawyer refer you to other lawyers.
        Or criminals refer you to other good lawyers…

        Look at mac lawyer, once sigel spanks them cases who fid cassidy get to represent him… Lol sigel lawyer.
        They both walk or got a smack on the wrist but they got money, so anything is possible…

        That was a power play move on jack parts imo

      • Of course, and I’m not looking at Jack like he’s ordinary, far from, just looking at his extraordinary connections as a little too convenient, even though i don’t have any proof.

      • EL_BARK

        Tell your man creekmur, he owe a days pay cause i just notice on the comments on this thread was the 3 of us. Smh
        I am wavy out this bitch.

        Got some reggie & cheap beer. & crabs waiting edogz voice

        Yall be cool like how yall be cool. Water

      • No doubt, I’ll put a lil pressure on iLLseed to drop the Beanie Segiel interview when you’ll ready.

      • EL_BARK

        Man the way pac was snitching in the media, i would had seperated my case also. Lol i know jack was like. Wtf this niggah throwing me under the bus for?

        Pac said i aint do it, i was sleep, while shaking in his head in jack direction. Lol jack case getting seperated was a legal statergy, just like when irv got his case seperated from preme.
        Jack plead guilty, pac took it to trial which carry a longer sentenced. Had he pleaded out, he might got ptobation. Also for the DA who was the bigger fish??? A celebrity or jack?

        Pac still broke the codes of conduct by snitching on jack to the media… You shut up & we fight it in court.
        Not in the court of public opinion……

      • @Real_SirJamie

        “Man the way pac was snitching in the media, i would had seperated my case also”. LMMFAO yea you right about that… But if Jacks whole intention was to get Pac set up then try to extort him I don’t blame Pac.

      • Yeah, but..

        >> In Charles Barkley voice : “You know (unintelligible) Kobe Bryant ( Inaudible ) …40 points!”

        I think it was a set up, it could have just went down exactly like you suggest though, hard to call, especially back then.


        That Jack couldn’t exist.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        If you want to be TECHNICAL and LITERAL he wasn’t necessarily a rat but he was a federal informant. But the same goes for you Sir. You have no paperwork saying Pac shot himself it’s just word of mouth. Bellview says he was shot 5 times. A while back there was some blog from a cop that said he met with Jack on numerous occasions and dude admitted to being an informant. can’t remember what site or if they took it down. Plus his affiliation with the panters… smh, as my young brother from philly would say ”There’s Levels To This S**t”

      • EL_BARK

        I know the cop your talking sbout bill something & i think jack was just using them, if it was true to begin with…
        I think they targeted jack base on what pac said. Jack never gave them anything. Jack not a dumb dude & if that cop story is true he jack manipulated them… & based on him shootjng that bmf niggah, while they claim he was a rat, show that he still lives by his rep… I going to take the latter and go by his rep which is more credible then a cop, who only wrote a blog story??

        On pac not shooting himself, that is pretty much the story from everybody that was in that lobby that day & at quad…
        Ijs that makes sense & explain the groin injury.

        These guys was rookies, they could had finish him if they wanted to, but it was never about killing him. It was just to teach him a lesson.

      • #Only explanation for groin injury.

      • EL_BARK

        You from philly bul ? Lol

      • EL_BARK

        Also the streets notmally are accurate, or there normally consistant although some details might change… But that was the consensus in the streets, even jimmy pointed that out.
        Pac used the shootings as a gimmick, and suge who already had beef with puff exploited the situation by signing him.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        You right about the streets, They definitely talk. No I’m not from philly just one of the most respected cities I know. Pretty much solid dudes come outta there. As far as that Cop and Jack… Jack is a TRUE MONSTER. That cop probably writing a book or something. lol.

      • EL_BARK

        Oh i ask cause that where i from,
        Yeah the cop story seem plausible, but even in their he said jack played them, & thats why he got deported. But i believe after the shooting he got deported, not for not cooperating.

      • Yes..but why did Suge & Diddy have beef?


      • EL_BARK

        Diddy man or cousin killed suge man in ATL after a party or something. That niggah wolfe had something to do with it, wolfe after that became puff head of security, but i think wolfe & another dude did it. Chase suge man out a party & murked him. Suge was heated & that started it… Wolfe got killed in 03 in atl by big meech, but meech beat it. That was when meech bung out in chaos in buckhead… & them
        Niggah shot the whole block up lol drawn That was put him on that map by feds although the wheels were already in motion. Wolfe was with puff in 99, when the dude scar approach puff in the club that shyne shot up. Scar was prolly but to ge busy, which why shyne panicked cause he knew diddy had blood on his hand. I forgot how scar was comnected to the atl situation but i think dude might had been his man also. But scar did say, i going to
        Kill you, lol or something to that effect, & he must not been playing. Wolfe let ny after that went back to atl, then got into something with bmf and he got pop….

      • Plaxico Burris type wound = Self inflicted, on the draw.

        Adrenaline pumping causes blood to leave the extremities ( fingers ) so now it takes more pressure to get that same sensation in trigger finger, resulting in negligent discharges in high stress situations without ingrained training / trigger discipline.

        “Finger off the trigger until you are ready to shoot.”
        *Above trigger guard…it feels good to look over & see that daylight!


      • EL_BARK

        Naw i doubt it.
        Suge has a mutual respect for diddy, not to mention henchmen had that nigga on mute when they were out vegas… & he approach pac with thr rollings 60’s crip wit him.
        Dre is soft, soft suge will always fuk wit dre.
        but diddy softness is purely cosmetic, he is down right as cold & ruthless as they come….. Lol not to mention the discrepancies in their finances, make diddy untouchable,
        #aint nobody got time for that.
        Diddy can wave a hand & suge become copperfield.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Wasn’t Pac cool with 60’s too? I’ve heard multiple reports that he was always with crips. That Hughes brother said that’s who helped Pac jump him and that dude from “Menace 2 Society” confirmed it.

      • EL_BARK

        Um i going to go out on a limb & say no. U talking about tupac before he became bishop.??? When he beat up the director was before he got down with deathrow & suge, so maybe.
        But after deathrow i going to say no being as though he stomp a crip? Also jimmy cred in the streets is or at that time far more superior then pac, not to mention von zip the niggah from harlem was messing with the crip out LA, that how diddy was intriduced to them… Also jimmy made it a point to mention he was with the official OG rolling 60’s, which was meant to point out the fact, SUGE never even though about approaching him or getting out if line. In fact he said suge was quiet as a mouse, & didnt say anything or attempted to intervene when he approach pac…. Which i am sure had to be awkward for pac, being as though what took place in quad.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Oh yea that’s right all that shit was BEFORE he got shot. I don’t think Bishop possessed him though. I think them bullets made him arrogant. He said himself after he got shot he didn’t give a f**k anymore. I see it in the hood all the time. Dudes get hit and instead of it humbling them they think they’re the terminator. But I digress… I guess we’re both right. Pac WAS cool with the 60’s, but not after he sided with Death row.

      • EL_BARK

        Pac wasnt really shot 5 times neither. Lol just a part added to his myth… I couldnt find the full interview in but its out their but here a exerpt….

        When jimmy was talking about it.
        “Tupac went for his gun and shot himself, and it all makes sense to me because if you got shot five times, while laying down, you wouldn’t do all that running around like he was doing in the studio.” says Henchmen

        “Later on i heard that the gun went off, and he got the shyt beat out of him and was gun butted”

        A few weeks later, Henchmen confronted Tupac backstage at D’angelo and Groove Theory show at the L.A House of Blues…”The Whole Death Row clique was up in there, and i remember going to him..I had some Crip dudes with me…and I said , “Dude, you gotta stop telling people that shyt” Henchemen recalls.

        “For real nicca, I don’t give a **** , it could go down right now!, why you blaming Puffy and Biggie? Them niccas ain’t got nothing to do with this…Nobody came to rob you, they came to discipline you, that’s what happened!”

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Which would explain why they took everything except the rollie jack bought him. Then again the hospital report from Bellview (Hospital he was treated at) said he was hit 5 times. I wasn’t there so I don’t know. As far as the motive, Everyone knows it was the night before he would be sentenced for that rape charge with Jack and them involved. I think they figured he would snitch so they had Stretch set him up. That’s why Stretch ducked early before there was even any shots fired. That was Stretch he was talking about on “Against All Odds”. “And that nigga that was down wit me? restin dead/switched sides guess his NEW FRIENDS wanted him dead”

      • DollasTX


      • @Real_SirJamie

        Lil Cease said that too, And HE WAS THERE. So I DON’T KNOW LOL This Pac ish is crazy and it’ll probably go on forever!

      • $18592567

        Jimmy likes muenster, cheddar, provolone… Jimmy hates glue traps…

      • EL_BARK

        With all that said.

        His resume in the streets is still one to be reckon with.
        If he snitch when he was in the county idk, i do know he took his fed case to trial & stood up & took his time.

      • $18592567

        His rep is definitely solid, but he been rattin’ since he beefed with Pac. The only reason he went to trial with the FEDs was, because he lied during his Proffer Agreement and them boys took his deal off of the table. That’s a fact. That’s why them dudes confessed to robbin’ Pac at Quad (Jimmy told on them guys). Jimmy tried to save his brother or somethin’ like that. His trial is public record.

      • EL_BARK

        The feds say alot of things, its the government.
        You know why its so hard to beat a fed cases? Or indictement. Cause the rules are differernt.
        Feds can pretty much convict anybody, if they chose to.,
        That real talk, why you think the fed conviction rate is so high.??

        You can get kingpin staus and life base off of “hear say”
        Shet you cant get 20 easy even if you werent never in possesion or found with a controll substance.

        Ie jimmy? If u going to get a proffer agreement, you put everything on the table. Why would jimmy lie & then set himself up for trial. That defeats the purpose of a proffer. U think jimmy dumb enough to lie to the feds after he already decides to cop a deal??? Lmao he was already indicted.!!!!!!??

      • $18592567

        So you think the Feds lied when the media reported that Jimmy was a cooperating witness who lied? This fact was a part of his trial that was released towards the end of his week long trial (maybe two weeks)?

      • EL_BARK

        The feds never said he ratted chuck phillips did.
        And he nots really credible to me fot many reasons…

        The feds said jimmy lied or didnt admit to everything during his proffer agreement, but that was only after he took it to trial & i believe the feds will say anything that benefits them to get a conviction. Did he snitch on niggas, who were planning to escape when he was in a the county in north carolina idk? Did he ever take the stand on a niggah no!!!! That much i know.

        Did he ever rat on a niggah to save his own ass, NO.

        Snitching on yourself aint really snitching it called copping a plea or cooperating… I not condoning snitching & even if he did, that doesnt negate the fact he put in work…

      • DollasTX

        50 wasnt shot 9 times either – niggas trying to capitalize on getting CAPPED lmao

      • DollasTX

        keep in mind ROLLING 60’s AINT the only crip set – eight trays (g c’s and hoovers) – 18th street and florencia get that NOD for most reputable

        crips bang on crips and vice versa with bloods too

        it aint NEVER black and white

        unless it was an all out GANG WAR in l.a. back then which it wasnt – it might have been different but then DEATH ROW was really what it was always about MONEY – b’s and c’s together making money – on the outside niggahs think it really is only about the color you wear but nothing could be further than the truth

        dont doubt the shit you saying sounds like you might have an inside track however
        bishop was an anomaly

      • LOL, true, but all that has served to keep Suge away….not OFF. Diddy’s soft may be cosmetic…but his “Sucka” runs deep.

        I expect a 1 Hitter quitter from Suge…if nothing else, simply for the record books.

      • DollasTX

        suge has a mutual respect for puff – where at

        he was phucking that niggahs baby mama

        right along with dr dre’s too

      • EL_BARK

        I never heard that, but that apples & oranges.but i should had said “has a mutal respect as enemies or foes”

        Bottom line, suge not getting froggy with sean. Nor do i think puff would be scared… That was my point. I’m not saying they friends & go out drinking. But suge is bot the feared gangster in the music biz, he once was.

      • @Real_SirJamie

        Suge can still make it happen to someone I believe though. More than the average citizen or connected individual.

      • EL_BARK

        Naw the price of life is very cheap in the hood.
        He only alledgelly paid 12 grand to get biggie hit. & that was a superstar in his prime…. He might be connected as to knowing killers from his past, but dont most people in the hood know killers. I not calling suge a punk, not at all
        He will mix it up, but he no longer has that feared persona he had

      • Which kinda makes him worse to deal with, I’d hate to be the Ninja he tries to reclaim his glory days on / with.

      • EL_BARK

        Lol crying over here

      • #IJS

        >>Playing it safe & not fuggin with Suge

      • EL_BARK

        Lmao at i need a sacrficial lamb to earn my stripes back. Lol

      • Exactly!

      • DollasTX

        yeah MONEY RESPECT MONEY – suge know puff got the resources to make some shyt happen – but outside of puff’s money thats the end of the respect “as enemies and foes”

        puff prolly has the same mutual respect towards SUGAR BEAR too lmao

      • $18592567

        Suge Knight didn’t lay hands on Diddy 20 years ago… Diddy got too many hitters in the dugout…

      • Put them in a room together & Suge is swinging.

      • EL_BARK

        Lol this is true,
        5 mintues later as suge is walking out the room and driving down the street.

        A white caddy will pull up & buss shots off. Lol

      • *Driven by LAPD.

      • $18592567

        I agree with that, but fightin’ and gangster are separate entities altogether. When Suge was makin’ noise it wasn’t on no Tookie or Monster Kody stuff. Suge was a paper gangster just like Puff is, but the only difference is Puff still caked all the way to the ceiling… Suge can’t mess w/Snoop or Dre right now either. I respect him for that dope music he oversaw from 1990-1996.

      • Indeed, & Suge’s hand game is definitely lacking, based on his recent K.O. losses, but there is no doubt in my mind, he’ll manhandle Diddy.

      • BOO BOE

        erbody know suge had the streets dats why puff didnt want it

        puff just now got hipped

    • Casor_G

      It would be a good “dark comedy”. This dude is a tragic figure

  • junj03

    2 Articles filled with the same shit…

  • Golgo 13

    gillie da kid a a low budget actor I ve never seen tha films his is in I ve heard about 1 of dem

    • DollasTX

      UH its a low budget film – thanks for stating the obvious GENIUS

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  • DollasTX

    decent look for GILL SMITH – he always been on the cusp of success since MAJOR FIGGAS – unfortunately, he still on the cusp … smh

    underground b-side music and b movies – prolly keeping his pockets afloat

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  • MercedNative209

    wether you hate him or love him…. a suge knight film is going to be epic.

  • soyhiphop

    Ving rhames better start eating

  • Dan_Tebasco

    Ving Rhames is hitting 60 soon how is he gonna play Suge in his 30’s come on now… And Gille should not be allowed to play Pac… Interested to see the documentary about Suge though since Fuqua is doing it…

  • DesignatedH8R

    I’ve read that book by Ronin Ro. Great story, but I’m sure a movie based on Suge Knight is gonna suck.

  • Richard Savage

    I like the idea of a Suge Knight movie. I would pay $20 to see it. Idk about Ving Ryhmes playing him tho. They should let the dude that played him in the MC Hammer movie do it or the dude from Notorious do it or hell get Ndamukong Suh from the Lions to do it. And Gillie as Pac??? Cut it out and find a natural ACTOR to play Pac